Common Core

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I wanted to wait a few months before posting about this , However from what I've heard from people that I know who are parents, a few people that I know who are teachers and many who don't follow politics and they all hate it. A couple of states want to opt out of it. It does have it's strange bedfellows like Bill Gates and Jeb Bush but overall Common Core has been unfavorable.


My question is for people who are parents. What's your view of CC ?

[jennysmurf]

Although I'm not a parent, I am a nanny and help the girls (4th and 5th grade) with their homework. Common Core is the biggest bunch of crap I've ever had to deal with. They make everything so difficult by adding a million steps and weird processes, that a parent can't help the child with homework. I've tried showing the girls how to arrive at the solution the "easy" way, but they flip out because I'm not doing it the way the teacher told them to. It doesn't matter if they know how to get the right answer, they have to do it in a certain way, or it doesn't count. I'm not normally a suspicious person, but this kind of stuff leans toward making the family useless and dependent upon the school. I am SO glad I don't have kids.

[sailor]

Although I'm not a parent, I am a nanny and help the girls (4th and 5th grade) with their homework. Common Core is the biggest bunch of crap I've ever had to deal with. They make everything so difficult by adding a million steps and weird processes, that a parent can't help the child with homework. I've tried showing the girls how to arrive at the solution the "easy" way, but they flip out because I'm not doing it the way the teacher told them to. It doesn't matter if they know how to get the right answer, they have to do it in a certain way, or it doesn't count. I'm not normally a suspicious person, but this kind of stuff leans toward making the family useless and dependent upon the school. I am SO glad I don't have kids.

I've not met a parent who is in any way supportive of common core. Yeah, some of the math is so ridiculously circuitous; it literally makes no sense.

[sailor]

For instance:

http://youtu.be/1YLlX61o8fg

[Dirtbag]

http://hechingerreport.org/wp-content/uploads/commoncoremath.png

[cougarjake13]

Wht the fuck ?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

In NY today they are having CC assessments. A lot of parents are having their kids opt out of taking the tests.

[newport king]

I realize this post may take this thread offroad a bit but here goes:

Not sure what CC assessments are as i live in NJ but we have these statewide NJ Ask tests which apparently students, teachers, principals, superintendents and school districts are all judged on. My son is in 4th grade and has no idea how to write in cursive (something i learned in 2nd grade). Theres times where in conversation he has zero concept of what im talking about. They dont actually TEACH kids anymore. The entire school year is a prep course for this statewide test.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Excellent article from HuffPo from a teacher who writes a scathing article about Gates trying to woo teachers on CC




It seems that Gates has once again bought himself an audience; he offered his CCSS-indulging speech to the National Board for Professional Teaching Standards (NBPTS) at its Teaching and Learning conference.

Why is Gates, a non-teacher, offering his non-expertise to an audience of nationally-certified teachers?

Consolation prize for millions donated.

Gates has paid NBPTS $5 million in the form of two grants, one in 2010, and one in 2013:





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mercedes-schneider/bill-gates-tries-to-fashi_b_4968836.html

[furie]

Here's the thing. I keep hearing parents saying that their kids are stressed out over this test so they're opting out. The kid is only stressed because the parent made them so. I have a child who took the English Language portion the other day and math today. He was not stressed because i did not over emphasis it with him. Therefore to him, this is just another day. Just another test.

It's like the Iowa tests we had to do in the 80's.

[sailor]

Here's the thing. I keep hearing parents saying that their kids are stressed out over this test so they're opting out. The kid is only stressed because the parent made them so. I have a child who took the English Language portion the other day and math today. He was not stressed because i did not over emphasis it with him. Therefore to him, this is just another day. Just another test.

It's like the Iowa tests we had to do in the 80's.

As Newport said with similar tests in nj (nj has adopted common core, so I'm not sure how they tie in) they teach towards the test. The whole year is geared to the tests and results directly affect school funding.

[jennysmurf]

Here's the thing. I keep hearing parents saying that their kids are stressed out over this test so they're opting out. The kid is only stressed because the parent made them so. I have a child who took the English Language portion the other day and math today. He was not stressed because i did not over emphasis it with him. Therefore to him, this is just another day. Just another test.

It's like the Iowa tests we had to do in the 80's.

Much of that comes from the teacher's attitude as well. If the teacher keeps stressing how important the tests are, the kids can freak out. Last year, one of my girls' teachers was this way, while the other wasn't. Makes a huge difference, since the kids value the teacher's opinion over the parent's.

[jennysmurf]

As Newport said with similar tests in nj (nj has adopted common core, so I'm not sure how they tie in) they teach towards the test. The whole year is geared to the tests and results directly affect school funding.

It's totes bogus, brah.

[sailor]

It's totes bogus, brah.

I'm not even so much opposed to it as a concept, but I hear all the time how everyone else thinks it's shit.

[spoon]

you guys are all shit in my eyes

[jennysmurf]

I'm not even so much opposed to it as a concept, but I hear all the time how everyone else thinks it's shit.

In theory, everyone learning the same things so that no one gets short-changed a good education, is a very good idea. The execution of same leaves much to be desired, however.

[jennysmurf]

you guys are all shit in my eyes

Oh, Uncle Spoon!

[spoon]

seriously though, shit