Bill Nye debates at the Creation Museum - 7pm EST LIVESTREAM

[Misteriosa]

Tonight, Bill Nye, the world renowned Science Guy, will debate Ken Ham, founder of the Kentucky Creationist Museum. The debate is called "Is Creation A Viable Model of Origins?", or as I like to put it: teaching creationism to kids as science is bad m'kay.

Mr Ham:
"I hope to show Mr. Nye and our debate audience that observational science confirms the scientific accuracy of the Genesis account of origins, not evolution," Ham said. "A debate with Mr. Nye, nationally known for his children's TV program and for promoting evolution, will be one of our major 2014 events that will highlight how children and teens are being influenced by evolutionary thinking,"

Mr. Nye:
I say to the grown-ups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world, in your world that's completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that's fine, but don't make your kids do it because we need them.

SO, pull up a chair and gather 'round

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[hanso]

ken ham is the guy I have been telling folks about on here and posted some of his nut jobbery

[underdog]

This will be like arguing on the internet livestreamed.

Two dug in sides trying to convince people who's opinions cannot be changed.

[Misteriosa]

Meh.. stuck in urgent care :-( the signal here stinks. Spotty coverage. Anyone watching?

[KnoxHarrington]

This will be like arguing on the internet livestreamed.

Two dug in sides trying to convince people who's opinions cannot be changed.


I think Nye is making a huge mistake here, because this gives the impression that there actually is something to be debated here.

[cougarjake13]

Meh.. stuck in urgent care :-( the signal here stinks. Spotty coverage. Anyone watching?



Hope all is ok with ya

Havent checked it yet

[keithy_19]

This will be like arguing on the internet livestreamed.

Two dug in sides trying to convince people who's opinions cannot be changed.

This.

[fezident]

I think Nye is making a huge mistake here, because this gives the impression that there actually is something to be debated here.

Well said.


Agreed.

[keithy_19]

Well said.


Agreed.

I just don't understand how the two can coexist. I mean, if you look at Genesis and the way the world was created goes with evolution. People get hung up on the 6 days thing but the Bible was originaly a verbal story so to make things apply to people the 6 days was probably the easiest way to tell the story. And sure they didn't have the information we do now regarding species and genes and all of that, but now that we do I don't see how it disproves God or anything like that.

[cougarjake13]

The issue is that back then people were just looking for a reason why their shitty lives were so shitty and any reason to believe their lot in life isnt their fault they clung too

[cougarjake13]

The reason to disprove a God is other then the science is that it's too easy to say that bad things happen bc of free will but god control's everything

[cougarjake13]

Its possible both can exist bc as humans we cant know or prove everything and maybe we misinterpreted how a god or aliens or what ever created us And both r true

[keithy_19]

The reason to disprove a God is other then the science is that it's too easy to say that bad things happen bc of free will but god control's everything

See, I don't believe God controls everything. I know some people do, but I don't.

[cougarjake13]

But I've been drinking

[keithy_19]

Its possible both can exist bc as humans we cant know or prove everything and maybe we misinterpreted how a god or aliens or what ever created us And both r true

Exactly. And people are so quick to dismiss one or the other because of faith. And fait is great to have, but you have to be willing to hear out other people's thoughts and beliefs. To a degree. 9/11 truthers should just get punched in the dick.

[keithy_19]

But I've been drinking

Nostrovia! :drunk:

[deliciousV]

I just don't understand how the two can coexist. I mean, if you look at Genesis and the way the world was created goes with evolution. People get hung up on the 6 days thing but the Bible was originaly a verbal story so to make things apply to people the 6 days was probably the easiest way to tell the story. And sure they didn't have the information we do now regarding species and genes and all of that, but now that we do I don't see how it disproves God or anything like that.

The thing that holds up, and confuses most fundamentalist in this kind of conversation is the word "yom" used in the Hebrew texts, it is believed by many scholars to mean "a single day, a 24 hour period". Yet there are many others who translate it as "an age, an extended period of time. The more hard line believe the first, believing that the King James version is the perfect word of God for an English speaking nation, therefore, if it says 6 days, it means 6 days. Outside of the literal interpretation camp, scholars believe it could easily be translated to mean millions of years, an age.

[hanso]

How I wish Christopher Hitchens was still around to give this guy the what for.

[spoon]

Nye should have said bullshit while pointing at ham, dropped the mic and walked off victorious. Anyone who believes otherwise, or this ASS deserves to even be heard is plain lost and needs to cling to the bullshit he and so many others peddle for their own benefit of course. Crutch baby! Yah!

[Pitdoc]

This sums up the debate .... Nye wins

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[hanso]

Polls state over 1/2 or country are on Ham's side.

[spoon]

Sad but surely an off poll. It can't be that bad.

[hanso]

for creation

[keithy_19]

People can believe in creationism and evolution.

[newport king]

Saw them on AC360 last night. The creationism guy is a complete creep. Basically said dinosaur bones dont come with tages on them sohow do we know they're 70mil years old. WHAT??

[hanso]

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Pat Robertson implores creationist Ken Ham to shut up: ‘Let’s not make a joke of ourselves’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/05/pat-robertson-implores-creationist-ken-ham-to-shut-up-lets-not-make-a-joke-of-ourselves/

[jennysmurf]

The evolutionists, scientists, and the such like need people like the creationists around to keep them working for answers. I hear too many "we know that..." even though they don't really know some things for certain, and are stating them as fact. Without constant questioning, I think some would get lazy and rest on their laurels. No, they don't know exactly where we came from, but if people keep questioning them and making them prove things, then answers will happen. If you really look at evolution, there are many holes that still need to be filled before it can be truly lauded as "fact." Get busy, guys! I'd love to see many more of these kind of debates in the future--they keep everyone on their toes.

[spoon]

No

[jennysmurf]

No

Yuh huh. Do too.

[spoon]

Explain one hole of the many.

[A.J.]

Explain one hole of the many.

Town slut or prison bitch.