So what happened with Fez last week during Hurricane Sandy?

[shitzkrieg]

I heard Ron asking where Fez was hiding last week during yesterdays show.

How many days did Fez miss? If he did what was his excuse?

How many live shows were there last week?

I had no power for the whole week and was curious to see how Fez handled the storm.

[jennysmurf]

I heard Ron asking where Fez was hiding last week during yesterdays show.

How many days did Fez miss? If he did what was his excuse?

How many live shows were there last week?

I had no power for the whole week and was curious to see how Fez handled the storm.

He was there everyday, but he wasn't going to Roosevelt Island at night. I wasn't able to listen everyday either, so I'm not sure either. Did he move to Manhattan?

[Dan 'Hampton]

He lives in west village. Apparently has lived here for 15 months.

[jennysmurf]

He lives in west village. Apparently has lived here for 15 months.

Aaaahhh...so that was the "secret" they were talking about.

[OGC]

He lives in west village. Apparently has lived here for 15 months.

tell me you are kidding !!! I am about a week behind in listening.

Fez has been off of retard island for over a year and it hasn't been mentioned on the show !
Can I assume that at least Ron knew ?

[ozzie]

He lives in west village. Apparently has lived here for 15 months.

Didn't they have a Fantasy Football Party at his place last year?

Or was that the year before?

[fezident]

HO LEE SHIT!
I can't believe the old girl actually moved to center of it all.



I can't wait until I'm all caught up. I gotta hear this.

[underdog]

HO LEE SHIT!
I can't believe the old girl actually moved to center of it all.



I can't wait until I'm all caught up. I gotta hear this.

Don't get excited. Ron catches him in a lie, then Fez refuses to admit anything. It was brutal radio.

[Melk]

I think he had been out-patient for the past 15 months

[fezident]

The real question is... did Fez finally fess up and admit that he's been going to the theater to regularly watch movies??

[smiler grogan]

I took it that Fez was staying with someone during the blackout but now I think he mght have simply moved.

[Recyclerz]

I think the most likely scenario is that he stayed in Ron's apartment after the power went out on RI. Why he would make up a nutty story and stick to it without any credible evidence and not have it be funny is beyond my ken but it is business as usual with the show these days.

Hopefully, with his big wins (Obama, approval of gay marriage) last night he'll at least be fired up for the start of today's show.

Go tell it on the mountain Fezzie!

[Judge Smails]

I think the most likely scenario is that he stayed in Ron's apartment after the power went out on RI. Why he would make up a nutty story and stick to it without any credible evidence and not have it be funny is beyond my ken but it is business as usual with the show these days.

Hopefully, with his big wins (Obama, approval of gay marriage) last night he'll at least be fired up for the start of today's show.

Go tell it on the mountain Fezzie!

I haven't listened in over a week due to my power having been out, so I have no idea what you're talking about. But this here sounds like par for the course for the show for at least the last four or five years.

[spoon]

I haven't listened in over a week due to my power having been out, so I have no idea what you're talking about. But this here sounds like par for the course for the show for at least the last four or five years.

sadly I agree

[fezident]

I distinctly remember, their first show back from the hurricane, that there was some immediate weirdness about "where did Fez spend the night?"
Ron welcomed the audience to the show and said something like "I'm Ron Bennington... there's Fez Whatley... who... I dunno... spent the night here maybe.... or something crazy. Not too sure about what's goin' on there..."

I didn't smell like a bit. It really seemed like Fez was trying to lie to Ron, and Ron was onto him.

I'm still a day or two behind. Can't wait. I love when Fez is part of the show. I don't care if he's having fun, or if he's on the ropes.... it's great radio.

[spoon]

I distinctly remember, their first show back from the hurricane, that there was some immediate weirdness about "where did Fez spend the night?"
Ron welcomed the audience to the show and said something like "I'm Ron Bennington... there's Fez Whatley... who... I dunno... spent the night here maybe.... or something crazy. Not too sure about what's goin' on there..."

I didn't smell like a bit. It really seemed like Fez was trying to lie to Ron, and Ron was onto him.

I'm still a day or two behind. Can't wait. I love when Fez is part of the show. I don't care if he's having fun, or if he's on the ropes.... it's great radio.

yah, but just imagine if fez put ron's escapades and personal life out there as IMMEDIATE fodder for the show

to me, that's pretty bush league if that's the way it went down and "ron was onto him". Onto what? None of his fucking business or ours unless Fez puts it out there if you ask me.

[Melk]

yah, but just imagine if fez put ron's escapades and personal life out there as IMMEDIATE fodder for the show

to me, that's pretty bush league if that's the way it went down and "ron was onto him". Onto what? None of his fucking business or ours unless Fez puts it out there if you ask me.
Assuming Fez moved, I can't blame the guy for not disclosing that on the air? Didn't he get his ID stolen twice?

[Jayw]

yah, but just imagine if fez put ron's escapades and personal life out there as IMMEDIATE fodder for the show

to me, that's pretty bush league if that's the way it went down and "ron was onto him". Onto what? None of his fucking business or ours unless Fez puts it out there if you ask me.

But what does fez ever voluntarily put out there. It seems like if ron doesn't pull him in or force him in he will just sit there silent for the whole show.

[spoon]

But what does fez ever voluntarily put out there. It seems like if ron doesn't pull him in or force him in he will just sit there silent for the whole show.

his choice in the end, just as it's Ron's to let him

yet the personal shit shouldn't be another person's choice to bring up, especially to start a show

it's looking down on someone to put yourself up in my mind and I hate that

ron always comes off as doing this, king of the island of misfit toys and he should be better than that

be a friend or cut him loose versus fucking passive aggressively tearing him down for years now

he does it to almost every person next to him in the end, and if not for Fez, I'm sure pepper would be next

[spankyfrank]

His address is listed on white pages.

It ain't a bit.

[hurlmon]

his choice in the end, just as it's Ron's to let him

yet the personal shit shouldn't be another person's choice to bring up, especially to start a show

it's looking down on someone to put yourself up in my mind and I hate that

ron always comes off as doing this, king of the island of misfit toys and he should be better than that

be a friend or cut him loose versus fucking passive aggressively tearing him down for years now

he does it to almost every person next to him in the end, and if not for Fez, I'm sure pepper would be next

If Fez brought anything to the show then his personal life probably wouldn't have come up. It seems to be one of the only topics he will talk about. If he still had creativity he could have made something of it and steered the topic away.

Ron was a friend to Fez for many years while he has been dealing with his issues since they started at JFK. I think the real question is when is Fez going to start being a friend to Ron and realize that Ron shouldn't have to carry him for this many years and finally step up and let Ron move on? Or at least bring him a Sports Illustrated?

Ron has said they/he/the show doesn't fire people, they just push them to quitting. Could he finally be pushing hard on Fez? Let Fez think he is making the decision go rather than kicking him out and crushing him emotionally?

Remember it has been said on the show that you either tell a joke or be the joke.
And Fez hasn't been telling many jokes.

[fezident]

I'm just gonna be devil's advocate for a moment here.
YES... what Fez does on his own time is his own business, but...
the fact that he lied about it to Ron is the catalyst for this bit. It would've been easier and less stressful for Fez to just tell Ron -off the air- "hey... please not talk about _____ on the air." That's it. Done.
Instead of doing the whole "I swear on the life of my mother", or whatever.

Fez is a grown man, but he truly acts like a child. Hence... he is treated like one.

I do love him, and I hope that I'm coming across like a hater. I'm a fan.
I just think he handled this situation (and so many others) exactly wrong.

I'm behind on the show though. (I'm listening to last Friday)
Perhaps I'm wrong.

[spoon]

I'm just gonna be devil's advocate for a moment here.
YES... what Fez does on his own time is his own business, but...
the fact that he lied about it to Ron is the catalyst for this bit. It would've been easier and less stressful for Fez to just tell Ron -off the air- "hey... please not talk about _____ on the air." That's it. Done.
Instead of doing the whole "I swear on the life of my mother", or whatever.

Fez is a grown man, but he truly acts like a child. Hence... he is treated like one.

I do love him, and I hope that I'm coming across like a hater. I'm a fan.
I just think he handled this situation (and so many others) exactly wrong.

I'm behind on the show though. (I'm listening to last Friday)
Perhaps I'm wrong.

even if you weren't, how could we know this hasn't been done/said by Fez?

i can only go by what I hear and how it's portrayed, and to me that's how I feel on it (above)

[spoon]

If Fez brought anything to the show then his personal life probably wouldn't have come up. It seems to be one of the only topics he will talk about. If he still had creativity he could have made something of it and steered the topic away.

Ron was a friend to Fez for many years while he has been dealing with his issues since they started at JFK. I think the real question is when is Fez going to start being a friend to Ron and realize that Ron shouldn't have to carry him for this many years and finally step up and let Ron move on? Or at least bring him a Sports Illustrated?

Ron has said they/he/the show doesn't fire people, they just push them to quitting. Could he finally be pushing hard on Fez? Let Fez think he is making the decision go rather than kicking him out and crushing him emotionally?

Remember it has been said on the show that you either tell a joke or be the joke.
And Fez hasn't been telling many jokes.

so anything ron dictates is the way

i don't subscribe to that mentality no matter how much the disparity of talent between the two and others

you never have an excuse to just fuck over your friend, much less on air

fez handles confrontation with emotion/sadness, ron with passive aggressive anger and bullying type tactics

it is what it is, not some good thing Ron needs to do bc Fez dropped the ball

you think pushing people to quit is ever a better tactic to a discussion off air/behind the scenes of any business? not me, that's caveman style

[disneyspy]

even if you weren't, how could we know this hasn't been done/said by Fez?

i can only go by what I hear and how it's portrayed, and to me that's how I feel on it (above)

i agree,we have no way of knowing how they set up what they will and will not talk about on the air and it's not really any of our buisness

[spoon]

i agree,we have no way of knowing how they set up what they will and will not talk about on the air and it's not really any of our buisness

but the show IS

and the interaction there/as it's portrayed

and let's be honest, it's not too tough to get most of this picture over time

[fezident]

I just re-read my post... and I noticed that I accidentally typed that "I DO hope that I'm coming across as a hater".
Wow. What a typo.
I meant to type : I do NOT want to come across as a hater.

I love Fez. I hate seeing him in this 5 year rut. And I wish he'd work harder, but..
I'm a big fan.



Okay. That is all.

As you were...

[hurlmon]

so anything ron dictates is the way

i don't subscribe to that mentality no matter how much the disparity of talent between the two and others

you never have an excuse to just fuck over your friend, much less on air

fez handles confrontation with emotion/sadness, ron with passive aggressive anger and bullying type tactics

it is what it is, not some good thing Ron needs to do bc Fez dropped the ball

you think pushing people to quit is ever a better tactic to a discussion off air/behind the scenes of any business? not me, that's caveman style

If fez doesn't talk or hold up any part of the show then yes
Ron dictates. It's called The Ron and Fez Show so one of them has to. Remember when back when Fez steered the show and brought up just about all the topics?

No excuse to fuck over a friend? So fez hasn't been fuckIng Ron over the last how many years? And on air, he has hung Ron out to do the show alone again and again for years.

Fez used to handle to handle confrontation great. Thats just Another point to how he has lost it. Fez used to be able to fend off anyone.

And I never said bullying someone to quit was right but just how it has been said/acknowledged on the show that has always what has been what the show does And that fez has been a part of it numerous times.

Oh and "fez dropped the ball" just made. Me giggle for a number of reasons.

[spoon]

...If fez doesn't talk or hold up any part of the show then yes
No excuse to fuck over a friend? So fez hasn't been fuckIng Ron over the last how many years? And on air, he has hung Ron out to do the show alone again and again for years.

there is a massive difference between hurting a show bc you have issues coming up that you simply can't control and openly attacking/willingly going after someone versus having a tough conversation/choice made respectfully. fez hasn't been able to hold his own bc of his issues for some time now, yet you expect him to just axe his only connection to his prior abilities/life bc it's the right thing to do? that's not how mental disorders work hurl

and fez's balls dropped years ago...:wink:

[hurlmon]

there is a massive difference between hurting a show bc you have issues coming up that you simply can't control and openly attacking/willingly going after someone versus having a tough conversation/choice made respectfully. fez hasn't been able to hold his own bc of his issues for some time now, yet you expect him to just axe his only connection to his prior abilities/life bc it's the right thing to do? that's not how mental disorders work hurl


He has been given the choice respectfully over the years and he chooses to stay. Again, tell a joke or be the joke.

Yes, I would expect him to do the right thing even though you don't think it works that way. I deal with a mentally ill person in my life. there were major problems throughout the family because of her until we all decided that her mental problems may have control over her life but they were no longer going to have any over ours.

So maybe if someone stepped up and forced him to do the so called right thing it just could be the kick in the ass that would get him motivated to work at it more and hopefully find something that works for him.

For all I know it's all bs and when he leaves the studio he's actually a deep voiced brute who bounces at a biker bar at night just for the fun of it.

[spoon]

that joke/be the joke isn't some way of life bc it's ron's tag line, it's just one opinion on a radio show dynamic

second, it doesn't automatically open the door to seemingly private matters. nothing is jsut automatic fodder for the show, especialy if it's Ron's personal life

next, the circumstance here isn't the same that it's just guys ball busting, it's a whole lot of really personal shit that is NEVER on the air the other way. you can't simply chalk it up to "being the joke" when almost nobody thinks it's funny in the first place.

and it's not brave to say fuck my family member with a disorder and make them adjust to us without the disorder. if that's how you think it works, simply bc you got fed up, I pitty that person in your family. sure there is some hard love, choices and things one must do in that situation, but I'm quite sure it wasn't ok to make that person the joke when they got quiet and locked up...especially around private matter such as these (physical health, mental disorder and family life)

[hurlmon]

that joke/be the joke isn't some way of life bc it's ron's tag line, it's just one opinion on a radio show dynamic

second, it doesn't automatically open the door to seemingly private matters. nothing is just automatic fodder for the show, especially if it's Ron's personal life

next, the circumstance here isn't the same that it's just guys ball busting, it's a whole lot of really personal shit that is NEVER on the air the other way. you can't simply chalk it up to "being the joke" when almost nobody thinks it's funny in the first place.

and it's not brave to say fuck my family member with a disorder and make them adjust to us without the disorder. if that's how you think it works, simply bc you got fed up, I pitty that person in your family. sure there is some hard love, choices and things one must do in that situation, but I'm quite sure it wasn't ok to make that person the joke when they got quiet and locked up...especially around private matter such as these (physical health, mental disorder and family life)

Yes its the dynamic of a show that has Fez's name on it and that he used to follow without question.

Fez has opened the door to his personal shit by constantly talking about it on air

Ron keeps his shit private.

We didn't write off the family member but don't coddle them or tip toe around them either. I think they need to learn to deal/function with their issues more than we have too. Not everyone they will deal with in life is going to be family member who "knows the deal" or someone that will coddle them because of their problems. They need to be able to deal with real life and real people.

We could go back and forth for days over this and whats the point.
anything we say ain't going to change shit.

So i guess we should just agree to disagree :wink:

[spoon]

Yes its the dynamic of a show that has Fez's name on it and that he used to follow without question.

Fez has opened the door to his personal shit by constantly talking about it on air

Ron keeps his shit private.

We didn't write off the family member but don't coddle them or tip toe around them either. I think they need to learn to deal/function with their issues more than we have too. Not everyone they will deal with in life is going to be family member who "knows the deal" or someone that will coddle them because of their problems. They need to be able to deal with real life and real people.

We could go back and forth for days over this and whats the point.
anything we say ain't going to change shit.

So i guess we should just agree to disagree :wink:

Look, on your personal stuff I surely can't say for sure, as I'm not even close to the situation and only know of what you put here. To me, everything you describe shows a tough but rational call made on your part...as long a you realize it's not some normal family dynamic and is dealt with appropriately.

With Fez we completely disagree true, but unlike my discussions with many on it, it was constructive and civil. Something I've yet to see with WF in any political thread yet. You know, post backed up by points/ideas not told to him and without behind the back attacks left and right.

Overall, I think lines have been blurred for one and bolded for the other simply based on their abilities of late. To me that's kind of shitty and a true friend doesn't push someone to quit, ever. Rather they have tough conversations with them and the team and promote what's best for everyone based on the factors involved...behind the scenes and give them a way out that's respectful and worthy of a long-time friend. I may be tough and crass here, but I'm a loyal to a fault friend in real life that aggressively protects them as if I'm actually on the ice in real life (minus the dropping the gloves too easy part). I just don't see that here, in fact, the opposite. Just my take.

[spankyfrank]

Spoon's a softy. He sent me a sweet email once.

He's a hard ass with a heart of gold!

[spoon]

ha! that was my nickname for dspy, for MUCH different reasons of course

mr. softie!

http://uptownflavor.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/mr_softee.jpg

[spoon]

my version of it

http://www.thefunkyapple.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/softee.jpg

[spankyfrank]

He has a heart full of cholesterol if that's his head.

[spoon]

that's creamy goodness

[spankyfrank]

Don't tease me!!!

[fezident]

Just now realized that Ron has ALWAYS known that Fez moved to west village.

Over the summer, he told the story about how he was "in Fez's neighborhood, with Fez, outside Fez's apartment... and Fez wouldn't even even invite me up."
I even remember saying to myself "Ron was hangin out on Shutter Island??! Huh?"

Then... yesterday... Ron retold that same story.

So, Ron has always known. The BIT was that Ron was kinda playing dumb.... and that Fez was willing to swear on the life of his niece, and all that shit.


Doesn't explain why Fez felt immediately compelled to lie about taking a car service from Retard Island after Sandy hit... but, yeah, Ron always knew that Fez was in the village.


Great radio.

[OGC]

Just now realized that Ron has ALWAYS known that Fez moved to west village.

Over the summer, he told the story about how he was "in Fez's neighborhood, with Fez, outside Fez's apartment... and Fez wouldn't even even invite me up."
I even remember saying to myself "Ron was hangin out on Shutter Island??! Huh?"

Then... yesterday... Ron retold that same story.

So, Ron has always known. The BIT was that Ron was kinda playing dumb.... and that Fez was willing to swear on the life of his niece, and all that shit.


Doesn't explain why Fez felt immediately compelled to lie about taking a car service from Retard Island after Sandy hit... but, yeah, Ron always knew that Fez was in the village.


Great radio.


I agree, it has been pretty entertaining for a change.

[hurlmon]

Look, on your personal stuff I surely can't say for sure, as I'm not even close to the situation and only know of what you put here. To me, everything you describe shows a tough but rational call made on your part...as long a you realize it's not some normal family dynamic and is dealt with appropriately.

With Fez we completely disagree true, but unlike my discussions with many on it, it was constructive and civil. Something I've yet to see with WF in any political thread yet. You know, post backed up by points/ideas not told to him and without behind the back attacks left and right.

Overall, I think lines have been blurred for one and bolded for the other simply based on their abilities of late. To me that's kind of shitty and a true friend doesn't push someone to quit, ever. Rather they have tough conversations with them and the team and promote what's best for everyone based on the factors involved...behind the scenes and give them a way out that's respectful and worthy of a long-time friend. I may be tough and crass here, but I'm a loyal to a fault friend in real life that aggressively protects them as if I'm actually on the ice in real life (minus the dropping the gloves too easy part). I just don't see that here, in fact, the opposite. Just my take.


I see what your saying but where is Fez's loyalty To Ron? I think he has been given many chances to go out respectfully over the years but it seems that he does not see how his issues effect others around him. That's where you lose me on the loyalty thing. I feel it needs to be both ways or it seems one side is being used especially since Ron now points it out.

I say seems since who knows what what is real and not of what we hear.

things being based on abilities makes sense to me. It's entertainment to us but their job and where Work i know that my ability to do my job is what keeps
Me employed.

And I think it's been a longer problem then "as of late" but we all listen to the same show andt hear/take things differently.

And nothing wrong with being civil. That way you get to hear other ideas. You haven't turned me on this but it is always possible.

(Pardon the bad spelling and stuff. Big fingers, small phone keyboard, bouncy bus)

[spoon]

Big fingers, small phone keyboard, bouncy bus)

hot

[underdog]

I agree, it has been pretty entertaining for a change.

I miss PaulO.

[hurlmon]

hot

I was hoping to distract you with that :)