The non-war on women

[hanso]

Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback (R) signed a bill yesterday that will allow pharmacists in the state to refuse to fill a prescription they think could be used to induce abortion.

But since the “conscience” measure says they cannot be required to provide a drug or devise that they think “may result in the termination of a pregnancy” — but does not define which drug in particular — the law’s opponents say it could allow a pharmacist to interfere with a woman’s health care by refusing to distribute birth control or emergency contraception.

Women who already have difficulty obtaining contraception may face additional hurdles, according to Julie Burkhart, founder of an abortion-rights group in Wichita, Kansas.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/05/15/3241384/kansas-gov-brownback-signs-act.html

Can get a collection going of all these non-war on women stories.

[Chigworthy]

How about a bill where they don't prescribe fucking Oxys to every twitching hayseed? Or a salvo of psychoactives for any boy that doesn't like doing homework?

[Melk]

Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback (R) signed a bill yesterday that will allow pharmacists in the state to refuse to fill a prescription they think could be used to induce abortion.

But since the “conscience” measure says they cannot be required to provide a drug or devise that they think “may result in the termination of a pregnancy” — but does not define which drug in particular — the law’s opponents say it could allow a pharmacist to interfere with a woman’s health care by refusing to distribute birth control or emergency contraception.

Women who already have difficulty obtaining contraception may face additional hurdles, according to Julie Burkhart, founder of an abortion-rights group in Wichita, Kansas.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/05/15/3241384/kansas-gov-brownback-signs-act.html

Can get a collection going of all these non-war on women stories.
Pharmacists should be required to list the drugs they refuse to prescribe on their pharmacist-on-duty placard so those legally prescribed morning after drugs can be well informed before trusting their medical care to religious jackasses.

[KnoxHarrington]

Pharmacists should be required to list the drugs they refuse to prescribe on their pharmacist-on-duty placard so those legally prescribed morning after drugs can be well informed before trusting their medical care to religious jackasses.

But what if you live in some awful town where the only pharmacist is a religious jackass?

[keithy_19]

Cunts, amirite?

[keithy_19]

Pharmacists should be required to list the drugs they refuse to prescribe on their pharmacist-on-duty placard so those legally prescribed morning after drugs can be well informed before trusting their medical care to religious jackasses.

You're completely right. If you're a doctor fuck your religious views. You deal with humans (a species) and you give prescriptions without asking questions.

I've bought the morning after pill and all I've been asked for is an ID. Which pisses me off but I get it at the same time.

[StanUpshaw]

I'm so glad I live in a country where I have to beg (and pay exorbitant amounts to) a series of old men to get medicine I need.

I'm much safer this way.

[Melk]

But what if you live in some awful town where the only pharmacist is a religious jackass?
You will have other options. I guarantee it.

[hanso]

Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) wants to restrict abortions in the District of Columbia, but he refuses to allow D.C.’s delegate from testifying on behalf of the city’s residents during a hearing about his proposal. Franks’ “fetal pain” bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy in D.C. even though there is no scientific proof that a fetus can feel pain at that point and a fetus is not viable.

Del. Eleanor Norton (D), D.C.’s only elected represetative, asked Franks last week if she could testify about the bill at an upcoming Thursday hearing. Franks denied her request, which Norton said breaks tradition of allowing members of Congress to testify about a bill that affects their constituents. Similarly, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) prevented women from testifying on a panel about contraception back in February.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc-news/2012/05/congresss-game-charades-belittles-itself-and-dc/623686

[spoon]

sounds completely logical

:wallbash:

[A.J.]

Del. Eleanor Norton (D), D.C.’s only elected represetative, asked Franks last week if she could testify about the bill at an upcoming Thursday hearing. Franks denied her request, which Norton said breaks tradition of allowing members of Congress to testify about a bill that affects their constituents. Similarly, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) prevented women from testifying on a panel about contraception back in February.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/dc-news/2012/05/congresss-game-charades-belittles-itself-and-dc/623686

She's a Delegate, not a Representative, so her voice doesn't really count anyway. :dry:

[Syd]

No taxation without representation! Unless you're black, in which case you better not have an abortion as well.

[Jujubees2]

Catholic heavyweights challenge Obama rule on contraception (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/21/11794013-catholic-heavyweights-challenge-obama-rule-on-contraception?lite)

Then again, the Catholic Church's war on women is status quo.

[high fly]

I have tired of the hyperbolic use of the word "war."
Maybe instead of calling it a "war" it could be termed a "police action."
Whatever the label, the right-wingers have for months now been stepping in one bucket of paint after the other with regard to issues concerning women.
I like seeing them striking back, especially when they have flooded some politician's inbox with information and updates on their vaginas.

The vagina vote will put Obama over the top in November.

[A.J.]

I have tired of the hyperbolic use of the word "war."
Maybe instead of calling it a "war" it could be termed a "police action."
Whatever the label, the right-wingers have for months now been stepping in one bucket of paint after the other with regard to issues concerning women.
I like seeing them striking back, especially when they have flooded some politician's inbox with information and updates on their vaginas.

The vagina vote will put Obama over the top in November.

I like the irony of vaginas striking back against douchebags.

[A.J.]

Catholic heavyweights challenge Obama rule on contraception (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/21/11794013-catholic-heavyweights-challenge-obama-rule-on-contraception?lite)

Then again, the Catholic Church's war on women is status quo.

I showed THEM when I was a student at Catholic University: I used a condom when I engaged in pre-marital sex on campus!

[Jujubees2]

I showed THEM when I was a student at Catholic University: I used a condom when I engaged in pre-marital sex on campus!

Good job A.J.!

[spoon]

I showed THEM when I was a student at Catholic University: I used a condom when I engaged in pre-marital sex on campus!

what a waste of rubber!

be not wasteful!

[A.J.]

what a waste of rubber!!

That's what SHE said!

[high fly]

I like the irony of vaginas striking back against douchebags.


I just liked using the phrase "vagina vote."

[hanso]

GOP Congressman: Women Who Undergo Abortions Should Face Criminal Charges:

Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL) unwilling admitted to MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on Friday afternoon that he believed women who receive abortions should face criminal charges. “I think the punishment should certainly be very serious,” he said. “It should be more than a civil case. It should be something very serious”:

MATTHEWS: So it should be a criminal matter for the woman as well as the doctor?

STEARNS: I think so. You are killing an embryo and in some cases you are killing an embryo that is four or five months into gestation.

[NickyL0885]

GOP Congressman: Women Who Undergo Abortions Should Face Criminal Charges:

Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL) unwilling admitted to MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on Friday afternoon that he believed women who receive abortions should face criminal charges. “I think the punishment should certainly be very serious,” he said. “It should be more than a civil case. It should be something very serious”:

MATTHEWS: So it should be a criminal matter for the woman as well as the doctor?

STEARNS: I think so. You are killing an embryo and in some cases you are killing an embryo that is four or five months into gestation.

And this helps the Dems more and more. Keep talking GOP! :clap:

[A.J.]

GOP Congressman: Women Who Undergo Abortions Should Face Criminal Charges:

Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-FL) unwilling admitted to MSNBC’s Chris Matthews on Friday afternoon that he believed women who receive abortions should face criminal charges. “I think the punishment should certainly be very serious,” he said. “It should be more than a civil case. It should be something very serious”:

MATTHEWS: So it should be a criminal matter for the woman as well as the doctor?

STEARNS: I think so. You are killing an embryo and in some cases you are killing an embryo that is four or five months into gestation.

I guess veterinarians and executioners should face criminal charges too. Oh wait, they don't kill babies so that makes it OK.

[Jujubees2]

I guess veterinarians and executioners should face criminal charges too. Oh wait, they don't kill babies so that makes it OK.

Hey, as a vegetarian all I kill is a couple of heads of lettuce and maybe some bell peppers... Oh snap, you said veterinarians. Never mind.

[hanso]

And they all voted on it

"Republicans in the House of Representatives attached an anti-abortion rider to a Homeland Security spending bill Thursday. The provision would do nothing to change existing policy and is unlikely to make it past the Senate."

[hanso]

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Michigan Dem banned by Republicans for using the word ‘vagina’

A female Democratic state representative in Michigan said Thursday that she has been silenced by her Republican colleagues after she uttered the word “vagina” while criticizing a slate of bills that would restrict female reproductive rights.

Michigan State Rep. Lisa Brown (D) made her comments during a Wednesday debate on proposed legislation that critics say could effectively ban abortions in the state.

[StanUpshaw]

I'm so glad I live in a country where I have to beg (and pay exorbitant amounts to) a series of old men to decide what goes in or comes out of my cunny.

I'm much safer this way.

[A.J.]

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Michigan Dem banned by Republicans for using the word ‘vagina’

A female Democratic state representative in Michigan said Thursday that she has been silenced by her Republican colleagues after she uttered the word “vagina” while criticizing a slate of bills that would restrict female reproductive rights.

Michigan State Rep. Lisa Brown (D) made her comments during a Wednesday debate on proposed legislation that critics say could effectively ban abortions in the state.

The nerve of that cunt!

[spoon]

The nerve of that cunt!

that's just it! protect the cunt nerves and bundle of nerves forming inside it!

:innocent:

[hanso]

"Cunt" worked for McCain ( IOKIYAR )

The follow up to this is The Vagina Monologues will be put on outside the Michigan Capitol.

[hanso]

Sen. Rand Paul proposes ‘fetal personhood’ amendment to flood insurance bill

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) expressed his frustration on Tuesday at Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), who offered an anti-abortion amendment to legislation that would renew the flood insurance program.

“I’m told last night that one of our Republican senators wants to offer an amendment — listen to this one — wants to offer an amendment on when life begins,” Reid said on the Senate floor. “I think some of this stuff is just – I have been very patient working with my Republican colleagues in allowing relevant amendments on issues, and sometimes we even do non-relevant amendments. But really, on flood insurance?”

Reid did not mention the Republican senator in question, but Politico identified Paul as the author of the amendment, which would state that life begins at the moment of conception. The amendment seeks to completely prohibit abortion.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2012/06/flood-insurance-bill-snag-abortion-127303.html

[brettmojo]

We're doomed.

[A.J.]

Sen. Rand Paul proposes ‘fetal personhood’ amendment to flood insurance bill

Hell, give the fetus the right to vote while we're at it.

[Jujubees2]

Hell, give the fetus the right to vote while we're at it.

And the parents should be able to claim the fetus as a dependent from the moment of conception, not at birth.

[hanso]

You just can't make this shit up...

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GOP Senate nominee: Women don’t get pregnant from ‘legitimate’ rapes

Rep. Todd Akin, the Republican Senate nominee in Missouri, claimed in a TV interview this weekend that women who are ‘legitimate’ victims of rape do not get pregnant because their bodies somehow prevent that from happening.

He claimed that women who are the victims of "legitimate rape" are unlikely to become pregnant. Akin said that the female body has "biological defenses" that prevent rape victims from getting pregnant. (That's not true.) The implication of his position is that if you were raped and became pregnant, you must have actually wanted it—it wasn't really rape.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/19/gop-senate-nominee-women-dont-get-pregnant-from-legitimate-rapes/

Todd Akin, Paul Ryan, and Redefining Rape

Last year, Akin, vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), and most of the House GOP co-sponsored a bill that would have narrowed the already-narrow exceptions to the laws banning federal funding for abortion—from all cases of rape to cases of "forcible rape."

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/08/todd-akin-paul-ryan-redefining-rape

[A.J.]

That would really cut down on the need for abortions if true!

[hanso]

Read today only 5 % get pregnant from rape.

[Dude!]

and 0% from true, forcible rape

[hanso]

Mississippi’s only abortion clinic faces closure in six weeks due to new state law

Jackson clinic told it could be shut down in six weeks because it has failed…
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/24/mississippis-only-abortion-clinic-faces-closure-in-six-weeks-due-to-new-state-law/


N.M. bill makes aborting a rape pregnancy ‘tampering with evidence’

A measure proposed by a Republican lawmaker in New Mexico would make aborting a fetus sired by a rapist “tampering with evidence” in the suspect’s trial.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/24/n-m-bill-makes-aborting-a-rape-pregnancy-tampering-with-evidence/

[hanso]

Arkansas House passes most restrictive abortion ban in U.S.

The Arkansas state House of Representatives voted on Monday for a bill that would ban abortion after 20 weeks without any exceptions.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/05/arkansas-house-passes-most-restrictive-abortion-ban-in-u-s/

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The GOP really wants to be the 21st century Whigs

[hanso]

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Alabama lawmaker pushing ‘personhood’ because ‘aborted babies’ might go to Hell

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/06/alabama-lawmaker-pushing-personhood-because-aborted-babies-might-go-hell/

[hanso]

The U.S. (GOP) House is about to vote on a nationwide abortion ban.(restriction)

[hanso]

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Rep. Trent Franks: 'The incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low'

Heard numbers of 30k a year

You get a GOP rape baby!, and you get a GOP rape baby!, everyone gets a GOP rape baby!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

What's the breakdown of legitimate vs non legitimate ?

[epo]

Nobody can turn an independent woman into a lean-democrat voter quite like one of these crazy GOP anti-woman dudes.

Keep it up!

[hanso]

Nobody can turn an independent woman into a lean-democrat voter quite like one of these crazy GOP anti-woman dudes.

Keep it up!

I see WI is doing the ultrasound thing

[PapaBear]

Rep. Trent Franks: 'The incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low'

Heard numbers of 30k a year

You get a GOP rape baby!, and you get a GOP rape baby!, everyone gets a GOP rape baby!
I didn't watch the video, but even if it were true that the incidence was low, what would that matter? So a woman gets pregnant by rape... She's supposed to understand that she must carry the baby to term, because she's part of a small group of victims? So, stupid.

[hanso]

Republican cites masturbating fetuses to support new abortion restrictions

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/17/republican-cites-masturbating-fetuses-to-support-new-abortion-restrictions/

Representative Michael Burgess (R-TX) on Monday asserted that he witnessed male fetuses pleasuring themselves as early as 15-weeks after conception, RH Reality Check reported.

His comments came during a House Rules committee debate on the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, which would ban abortions nationwide after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

[A.J.]

I guess men really are pigs.

[Recyclerz]

Republican cites masturbating fetuses to support new abortion restrictions

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/17/republican-cites-masturbating-fetuses-to-support-new-abortion-restrictions/

Representative Michael Burgess (R-TX) on Monday asserted that he witnessed male fetuses pleasuring themselves as early as 15-weeks after conception, RH Reality Check reported.

His comments came during a House Rules committee debate on the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, which would ban abortions nationwide after 20 weeks of pregnancy.


I guess men really are pigs.

Actually, it is probably in the eye of the beholder. The link describes a paper that the Congressman may have been relying on for his informed opinion. Apparently the researchers also "observed" female fetuses (feti?) rubbing one out in utero.

(Pre) Baby Batches (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/06/michael-burgess-fetus-masturbation/66345/)

Personally, I would put any scientist who interpreted the random motions of a fetus as masturbation on some kind of pedo watch list.

I think the more interesting feature of this story is that this guy is actually an MD, so he has to be at least aware aware of the strengths of science. And yet he puts his chips on a childish interpretation of Biblical lore. I cannot comprehend the appeal of this mindset.

[hanso]

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Think he is one of these Docs

[Misteriosa]

I see WI is doing the ultrasound thing

yeah.. i was furious that not only are women such as myself are being called liars, but that women have to tear open old wounds just to get their points across to these numbskulls.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26315908/#52235822

[hanso]

Bill requiring women to undergo an ultrasound procedure before being able to receive an abortion.

I'm sure this would be at the womens expense. After all the party runs a throw the baby out with bathwater doctrine e.g. defunding Planned Parenthood

[Dude!]

After all the party runs a throw the baby out with bathwater doctrine...

that's what Planned Parenthood
does...literally

[Jujubees2]

that's what Planned Parenthood
does...literally

They give the woman a bath after she has an abortion? What a waste. A shower is much more economical.

[Dude!]

They give the woman a bath after she has an abortion?

No, not the woman.
The babies are drowned
in toilets or buckets of water.

[A.J.]

No, not the woman.
The babies are drowned
in toilets or buckets of water.

Enhanced abortion techniques.

[Jujubees2]

Enhanced abortion techniques.

I thought they only did that to terrorist fetuses

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Is Water breaking the new water boarding?

[hanso]

http://i44.tinypic.com/207bb4l.jpg

[hanso]

Some GOP lead states are sneaking in a last minute 'vaginal probe’ laws into new state budgets.

[hanso]

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Jim DeMint: A lot of women want to be forced to have a ("free") ultrasound prior to being allowed to have an abortion.

[hanso]

Some GOP lead states are sneaking in a last minute 'vaginal probe’ laws into new state budgets.

Also in bills that ban Sharia law

[SonOfSmeagol]

dam, and i had hoped sharia law was for vaginal probes

[KnoxHarrington]

Also in bills that ban Sharia law


I absolutely love that they're sticking this bullshit into anti-Sharia laws. I guess it shows that it's only bad to force religious doctrine on people by law when it's the dirty, dirty muzzies doing it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Ban booze and bacon. Let them try

There will be riots in the streets. It will make Tahrir square look like a Coldplay concert

[spoon]

Repeat

[hanso]

North Carolina GOP adds ‘sneak attack’ anti-abortion measures to motorcycle bill

Update 4:30 p.m. Eastern: The North Carolina House passed the bill in a 74-41 vote


Some Dem. woman/s? were for it wth

[Syd]

I absolutely love that they're sticking this bullshit into anti-Sharia laws. I guess it shows that it's only bad to force religious doctrine on people by law when it's the dirty, dirty muzzies doing it.

Sharia law and how it is enforced is pretty much what the religious right wants, but there is a disagreement on the name. If someone lets them know they can rename it to Jesusin' law, watch out.

[spoon]

I hate religion so.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I agree that some of these ultrasounds and probes are too much.


However where's the anger about our tax dollars funding wars on women in Pakistan and other countries sucking on the teat

[spoon]

Yah, he wrote sucking at the teat so it's now a women's issue!

Where's the anger with this perfectly logical tie in to this thread!?!!?

Oof

[A.J.]

I wish I could suck on a teat. :glurps:

[spoon]

Just go visit Fez.

Or paul o.

[hanso]

Sharia law and how it is enforced is pretty much what the religious right wants, but there is a disagreement on the name. If someone lets them know they can rename it to Jesusin' law, watch out.

There was a poll and 33% want a theocracy government

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Malcolm Jamal Warner 2016

[hanso]

North Carolina GOP adds ‘sneak attack’ anti-abortion measures to motorcycle bill

Update 4:30 p.m. Eastern: The North Carolina House passed the bill in a 74-41 vote


Some Dem. woman/s? were for it wth

Only the last 15 words of the bill had anything to do with motorcycles

[SonOfSmeagol]

so, Hanso, serious question: in your opinion, should a woman be able to get an abortion during the time from the beginning of viability (~24 weeks) up until the moment of birth? (aside from the danger-to-mother and severe fetal problem situations)

[Furtherman]

A woman should be able to do whatever she wants with her body.

[spoon]

so, Hanso, serious question: in your opinion, should a woman be able to get an abortion during the time from the beginning of viability (~24 weeks) up until the moment of birth? (aside from the danger-to-mother and severe fetal problem situations)

serious suggestion, get a new question/jumping off point to begin this TIRED and STUPID debate

don't want an abortion, don't get one

[PapaBear]

I wish I could suck on a teat. :glurps:
I'm angry that you can't.

[SonOfSmeagol]

A woman should be able to do whatever she wants with her body.

my views are more in line with roe v wade, which holds that the state can have an interest in protecting the fetus in "the stage subsequent to viability" - 3rd trimester

[A.J.]

A woman should be able to do whatever she wants with her body.

As long as we can watch.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

A woman should be able to do whatever she wants with her body.



As long as she's doing it to herself where's there's cfl lightbulbs in the lamps correct?

[Jujubees2]

A woman should be able to do whatever she wants with her body.

As long as we can watch.

:thumbup::clap::thumbup::clap::thumbup::clap:

:smoke:

[Jujubees2]

my views are more in line with roe v wade, which holds that the state can have an interest in protecting the fetus in "the stage subsequent to viability" - 3rd trimester

Then I should be able to claim the fetus as a dependent on my taxes in the third trimester and not have to wait for the baby to be born. Damn government wouldn't let me.

[spoon]

As long as she's doing it to herself where's there's cfl lightbulbs in the lamps correct?

classic

[SonOfSmeagol]

Then I should be able to claim the fetus as a dependent on my taxes in the third trimester and not have to wait for the baby to be born. Damn government wouldn't let me.

well if it is born anytime during the 3rd trimester then you'd be all set

[hanso]

http://www.bartcop.com/abort-convenience-nieves.jpg

[SonOfSmeagol]

mayor of 8th largest US city resigns amid harrassment claims by 17 women (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57599950/bob-filner-agrees-to-resign/)
... fallen victim to the “hysteria of a lynch mob” which he called an “affront to democracy."

the face of a warrior against women
http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./876/493/Filner_082313.jpg?ve=1

he's the guy who chose to go for two weeks to a behavioral counseling clinic this summer to get all better and stuff

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He will probably get a teaching gig or a plush 6 figure no show consulting job.

These politicians, many of them in both parties never have to compete with anyone in the private sector

[spoon]

mayor of 8th largest US city resigns amid harrassment claims by 17 women (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57599950/bob-filner-agrees-to-resign/)


the face of a warrior against women
http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./876/493/Filner_082313.jpg?ve=1

he's the guy who chose to go for two weeks to a behavioral counseling clinic this summer to get all better and stuff

so you're saying what? here's his face or there's an injustice? elaborate

[SonOfSmeagol]

so you're saying what? here's his face or there's an injustice? elaborate

a person of tremendous power abuses his position and wages a real war on women, and it turns out the ugly mug is a real pussy

Filner's shameful resignation speech: More self-pity, denial (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mayor-filners-lament-20130823,0,5897180.story)

quite applicable to this little thread, no?

[spoon]

I thought u may have been posting it in jest, as if this old man can't be so bad...hence my injustice q. Yet good, was hoping nobody would defend this pos.