August 2012 Podcast Network Speculation

[NewYorkDragons80]

O&A have been talking for a few months about grievances with the company, treatment of their employees, etc. Any chance they actually make a move and start their own podcast network? I'd look forward to them returning to a timeslot of their choosing, building something independent of any other entity, and the possibility of building a real network with Ron and Fez, Dave, etc. Maybe I'm being too optimistic in thinking this would give them more of a free hand thus creating a better show. If they make the jump, do you think Ron and Fez would follow?

[IamFogHat]

Do you have any idea how much money they make at Sirius? People who started and became successful podcasters who were former radio guys were all fired from their jobs. I'm sure there will be an Opie podcast and Ant will continue his podcast full time once they finally call it quits, but to think they would not resign to do the same shit again to pursue full time risky podcasting, especially after the weirdness of the last negotiations, is ridiculous.

[JPMNICK]

There is NO CHANCE of this and I will tell you why

they are the LAZIEST people on that staff and in that building. they do nothing outside of the show to really promote themselves. I agree with Jimmy when he tells Opie that they need to get a PR and publicist. no one is randomly stumbling onto them on satellite. only 18 million people have it in the country, and most people just wont stumble on and listen like you have have on FM while in the car in traffic.

They (Opie especially I think) really do not have much business sense. They are def. talented, and do a good job, but they have no sense of team anymore. they leave right at 10am (and if they ever try to say they are workhorses they are lying, as witnessed by them calling in from the car to sams show). it is not just a bit, they legit leave.

their show prep is now twitter, which is fine, but I just don't see them having the hunger to ground roots something. i don't think the passion is there.

[paulisded]

There is NO CHANCE of this and I will tell you why

they are the LAZIEST people on that staff and in that building. they do nothing outside of the show to really promote themselves. I agree with Jimmy when he tells Opie that they need to get a PR and publicist. no one is randomly stumbling onto them on satellite. only 18 million people have it in the country, and most people just wont stumble on and listen like you have have on FM while in the car in traffic.

They (Opie especially I think) really do not have much business sense. They are def. talented, and do a good job, but they have no sense of team anymore. they leave right at 10am (and if they ever try to say they are workhorses they are lying, as witnessed by them calling in from the car to sams show). it is not just a bit, they legit leave.

their show prep is now twitter, which is fine, but I just don't see them having the hunger to ground roots something. i don't think the passion is there.

Most intelligent post ever on this site!

The money just isn't there...esp. on a plan to bring in Dave and R&F and everybody else. There are very few podcasts that make any money, and those that do are by people willing to work their asses off.

Plus, let's be honest here. The bitching about management is a schtick they've had from day one. Without it, a good portion of their persona dies.

[IamFogHat]

Most intelligent post ever on this site!

The money just isn't there...esp. on a plan to bring in Dave and R&F and everybody else. There are very few podcasts that make any money, and those that do are by people willing to work their asses off.

Plus, let's be honest here. The bitching about management is a schtick they've had from day one. Without it, a good portion of their persona dies.

What about my post, I thought it was pretty intelligent?

[underdog]

O&A have been talking for a few months about grievances with the company, treatment of their employees, etc. Any chance they actually make a move and start their own podcast network? I'd look forward to them returning to a timeslot of their choosing, building something independent of any other entity, and the possibility of building a real network with Ron and Fez, Dave, etc. Maybe I'm being too optimistic in thinking this would give them more of a free hand thus creating a better show. If they make the jump, do you think Ron and Fez would follow?

They probably could have always returned to a time slot of their choosing, they just chose mornings to continue to compete with Howard. Their ego would never let them go back to afternoon drive.

[underdog]

There is NO CHANCE of this and I will tell you why

they are the LAZIEST people on that staff and in that building. they do nothing outside of the show to really promote themselves. I agree with Jimmy when he tells Opie that they need to get a PR and publicist. no one is randomly stumbling onto them on satellite. only 18 million people have it in the country, and most people just wont stumble on and listen like you have have on FM while in the car in traffic.

They (Opie especially I think) really do not have much business sense. They are def. talented, and do a good job, but they have no sense of team anymore. they leave right at 10am (and if they ever try to say they are workhorses they are lying, as witnessed by them calling in from the car to sams show). it is not just a bit, they legit leave.

their show prep is now twitter, which is fine, but I just don't see them having the hunger to ground roots something. i don't think the passion is there.

They don't even have their own fucking website. It's sad.

[paulisded]

What about my post, I thought it was pretty intelligent?

Yes, yours was great too!!! haha

[JPMNICK]

They don't even have their own fucking website. It's sad.

exactly my point. for YEARS we heard them bitch about steve and his videos and how he branded them foundry.

Guess what, he has been gone 2 years, and now you have NO web presence related to the show. they may spin it that they will not plug Sirius for free. well guess what, that works both ways when you want a raise no one is saying "well you did drive X amount of web views".

they stopped doing live gigs, which is what they ALWAYS used to make fun of howard for not connecting with the fans. they would pride themselves on doing bar gig etc.

How is it 2012, and you don't have a website. even if the site was a collobaration of all their social media in once place, with show video's linked in that would awesome.

they say they have no visual element (which drives me fucking nuts), well PUT ONE TOGETHER. Bill Burr has a great website, and a page that links to all the shit he talked about on each podcast. you have 4 producers, make one of them pull this shit together.

if they both chipped in 50k a year, which is a very tiny % of what they make (and because they are a corp tax deductible), they could have a fucking MONSTER web presence with tons of traffic, sponsors and start to make some of the money back.

I still like the show, but you can feel their age now. 2000 was a long time ago in terms of their desire to prove themselves to the country, and ability to see what they needed to do. I know they have families now and different lives, but I they want to be back on top without the effort to do it.

[PapaBear]

What about my post, I thought it was pretty intelligent?

Yes, yours was great too!!! haha
You forgot to pat him on the head when you said that. :wink:

[blacknoi]

Best thread in a long time.

I stopped listening maybe 18 months ago after O/A just seemed to lose their passion.

Judging by the comments, not much has changed.

[Melk]

There is NO CHANCE of this and I will tell you why

they are the LAZIEST people on that staff and in that building. they do nothing outside of the show to really promote themselves. I agree with Jimmy when he tells Opie that they need to get a PR and publicist. no one is randomly stumbling onto them on satellite. only 18 million people have it in the country, and most people just wont stumble on and listen like you have have on FM while in the car in traffic.

They (Opie especially I think) really do not have much business sense. They are def. talented, and do a good job, but they have no sense of team anymore. they leave right at 10am (and if they ever try to say they are workhorses they are lying, as witnessed by them calling in from the car to sams show). it is not just a bit, they legit leave.

their show prep is now twitter, which is fine, but I just don't see them having the hunger to ground roots something. i don't think the passion is there.
These are really, really, really good points. Opie, Anthony, and Jimmy are constantly complaining about the company (which Ron Bennington often mentions, "Doesn't care about ratings.") not promoting them and not keeping their name out there. I don't blame them for ignoring or burying "The Opie and Anthony Show." Remember how polite and respectful Opie and Anthony were toward Eric Logan? They treated him like crap in spite of his kindness. When the Sirius management came into the picture, we got NO live phone calls from management and NO discussions about how specific members of the SiriusXM team are asses. Sirius doesn't want to play Opie and Anthony's games.

Opie and Anthony need to make amends with Steve and restore a fully functional Opie and Anthony.com complete with Facebook, Twitter and whatever social media links they choose to include with the site. This way there is a set home for all things related to the Opie and Anthony show right there and ready for the end user to enjoy.

Even though I have some issues with Ron and Fez's "TheInterrobang" (primarily the lack of an organized chronological set of topics linked to each episode of the program and the lack of the actually Ron and Fez brand on the site), but it keeps the fans somewhat able to communicate with the show without alienating the listeners through a non-audio medium (like they did with PalTalk).

Opie! Get a decent PR person and actually take some of their advice. Podcasters are leapfrogging over you in the race to get TV programs and other media appearances. If you are satisfied with Anthony' occasional appearance on FoxNews, then quit complaining. Otherwise, focus on improving the market penetration of your program outside of the Sirius platform.

The last time ANYONE outside of sites like this ever mentioned Opie and Anthony to me was the Baby Bird video, and that video was ALL Pat from Moonachie thanks to a suggestion by Joe Rogan. Think about it.

[hanso]

Nothing more than leverage the likes of which Howard always used.

[Adolf]

opie thinks he has a future as a youtube star but that's just......... stupid. maybe he'll release a book full of exaggerations/lies at best. he'll drift off into a 'where are they now' status i bet..

anthony will take that compound thing as far as he can and do well with it. i could see him being a pundit type guy or whatever on some wacky politics show maybe. ant will be fine..

jimmy will always want more


there ain't gonna be a 'network' of anything. anthony will ignore opie's phone calls by january....... 'yo dude, can i come over for a compound show?' messages will pile up, and everything will just spread out like a good long piss is in the ocean

[Adolf]

when's ron n fez's contract up


fez'll move to florida finally and live with 'mother' and cry 16 hours a day

ron'll be dave's sidekick on his network tv show


so it has been written, so it shall be done

[underdog]

when's ron n fez's contract up


fez'll move to florida finally and live with 'mother' and cry 16 hours a day

ron'll be dave's sidekick on his network tv show


so it has been written, so it shall be done

Ron said Friday that they were just recently re-signed to their contract.

[realmenhatelife]

Aside from no hussle anymore, and that they do complain about this literally every contract time just like they've always had a problem with 'the bosses,' consider how impractical podcasting is for them:


No more celebrity or musical guests because you cant really do topical promotion on a podcast. No more staff or interns, because a podcast doesn't carry 5 producers. No more management to get them any perks, no more management to bitch about. Chancers are no more, or way fewer, callers. If you're podcasting you're losing anyone listening live in their car, so even if you set up phone lines anyone calling in has to be at a computer while you're broadcasting.


But the most important one, they cant afford it. Anthony lives in a mansion on Long Island and spends his money in such a way that if he were two shades darker you know what he'd call himself. How many paychecks do you think he can miss before he's in trouble there, how easy do you think it will be to get rid of that house in this market? Opie lives in manhattan with a two year old and I'm assuming is still the sole income provider in the house, and he used to heavily imply he's kicking out to the rest of the family on the reg.

They've never, ever, evvvvver been guys with any sense of humility and jumping into podcasting would have to be a huge exercise in that. Their experience wouldn't mean shit, they'd lose most of their listeners, resources, and money. If they were doing it 15 years ago they'd tear it up like they did regular radio, but that sun has set.

[Melk]

The podcast thing theoretically could work, but the concept would require patient testing and an understanding of the marketplace.

I figure that people like Jimmy Pardo (http://pardcast.com/premiumGuest.php) and Steve Dahl (http://new.dahl.com/subscribe/) are able to get paid subscriptions from a small number of dedicated fans. People like Kevin Smith and Marc Maron consider their investment in podcasting to be a way to provoke fans to pay to see their live shows on tour.

Opie and Anthony don't realize that, on some level, Sirius/XM gives them exposure to non-fans while the podcasting route would require them to advertise and sell themselves more often than they would normally want. And, I may be wrong, but O&A seem to be quite lazy. I cannot imagine them doing a consistent touring show to generate revenue.