Jeters 3000th hit

[johnniehardrock]

Ok so you catch Jeters 3000th hit. Do you give it back like the guy who caught it or sell it

[TheGameHHH]

I absolutely give it back, without asking for anything. My answer is explained in the MLB Thread

[A.J.]

I give it back: on the condition that I be able to present it to him directly and get a signed photo of the moment.

[hexy68]

Congrats Capt Jeter!!! :thumbup:

[disneyspy]

i throw it on a rope from the stands to the catcher,get signed to a big league career and hit puberty

[sailor]

i throw it on a rope from the stands to the catcher,get signed to a big league career and hit puberty

You forgot to break your arm first, so it'll just dribble into the outfield.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Give it back......



To the highest bidder

[Snacks]

As stated in the MLB thread I would never give it back. Its value of $500k to maybe even $1 million or more. What does giving it back do for you? Does it make you Jeters friend? He wont give 2 shits about you or your kind gesture the next day. He has made $250 million plus and will charge money for his autograph at every Yankee signing for the rest of his life. Whats he doing for you? Nothing. Even if you say catching the ball and having that story is great , well you will still have those same memories and the money.


Young Calogero: Bill Mazeroski, I hate him. He made Mickey Mantle cry. The papers said the Mick cried.

Sonny: Mickey Mantle? That's what you're upset about? Mantle makes $100,000 a year. How much does your father make? If your dad ever can't pay the rent and needs money, go ask Mickey Mantle. See what happens. Mickey Mantle don't care about you. Why care about him?

One of the greatest movie quotes of all time and no truer words have ever been spoken and can be said about all athletes! Cheer for players and like them all you want but at the end of the day they make tons of money and if you get a chance to catch an important ball get all that you can for it!

[Dudeman]

Give it back but have Jeter or the Yankees donate whatever it is worth to the charity of my choice.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I just read that they are giving him 4 Championship suite tickets for the rest of the season and the playoffs. Plus im sure he got some other shit.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im not going to make any judgements against anyone who will give the ball back. But for me. If I was offered 500k-1mm for Jeters 3000th hit. Show me the check I'd gladly sell it to Steiner sports or to the HoF

[Snacks]

I just read that they are giving him 4 Championship suite tickets for the rest of the season and the playoffs. Plus im sure he got some other shit.

Great he gets 4 tickets per game at a value of $250 a ticket. So even if there are 40 games left thats a value of $40k. I would rather take cash thank you. Now he has to try to make it out to every game. Catching that ball is going to cost him money.

[sailor]

Jeter easily has money to pay for the ball, if it's so important to him. Even if you sell to him without putting it on the market you owe it to yourself and your family to get cash for it.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

As Ari Gold said "The garbage man does not throw out the winning lottery ticket"

[StanUpshaw]

To you it's about money. To people that are Yankees fans, especially those of us that love Jeter, it's not about money. Maybe I'm speaking for people without knowing their feelings and that may be unfair, but at least speaking for me and the guy that caught the ball it's not about how much money the ball was worth it was just a privlege to catch the ball in the first place. That was enough.

This is just more support for my theory that sports fandom should be considered a form of retardation.

[TripleSkeet]

Jeter easily has money to pay for the ball, if it's so important to him. Even if you sell to him without putting it on the market you owe it to yourself and your family to get cash for it.

Beat me to it.

[Kevin]

1: You are an idiot if you give the ball back.
You get at least 500k. If you don't like money give it to charity.

2: Jeters dad looks and sounds like Cleveland

That is all.

[IamFogHat]

I would fall out of the stands trying to catch it and die in front of my five year old.

[Dude!]

call me when he has 4257
until then **yawn**

[Snacks]

This says it all. Guy is beaming ear to ear and Jeter doesnt give a fuck and cant wait to go wash his hands.

Fucking clowns!

http://i.imgur.com/8ZVtr.jpg

[spoon]

I wish I caught it so I could piss on it every day until it sold for 500k or more. Hell, I'd probably wait until this recession passed and sell it during high times, but that may be a while. Come to think of it, NOW is the time to sell bc the rich have even more than normal vs reg schlubs like us and tax rates are lower for the transaction. I'm sure there's some asshole that would have throwaway money to buy it. I'd actually hope for a Sox fan/yank hater to sell it to them to burn. No matter, go pay for your autograph from St. Jeter you fucking fools.

Hell, go buy yourself a limited edition Steiner sports honorary plaque and ball commemorating this achievement! But act quick bc there are only 3000 of them, one for each hit the Captain has on his way to yankee history. Each comes with it's own mlb/steiner hologram on the ball and plague, along with a matching numbered certified letter of authenticity as well. The picture behind it will be Jeter getting that specific hit along with the story behind it. Own your piece of yankee captain history for only $399.99. Small price to pay for history wouldn't you say!?

Shit, outside of the price my joke idea sounds pretty fucking cool! :laugh:

[mdr55]

If there ever was a guy who was at the right place, right time, right team, it's Derek Jeter. I have a Jeter Jersey and think he's ok but I can't stand the people that think he's the best ever cuz he's on the Yankees (who about get to the post season regularly I'll admit cuz they got the money). So what he got whatever World Championship rings, he didn't win the game by himself and is he the greatest NY Yankees captain ever, I don't think so but he's a teflon don that Jeter is.

[boobieman]

I think they should give the guy who gave back the ball season tickets for this year and next year. He got some nice swag..

Front row tickets to todays game
4 suite tickets for the rest of the season..including post season
Signed ball and bat by Jeter

He could of gotten 100k easily...does all the above equal up to that? Think of the press that the Yankees get from all this. I think this guy got hosed.

SSEYAYYEAAA

[Tenbatsuzen]

This says it all. Guy is beaming ear to ear and Jeter doesnt give a fuck and cant wait to go wash his hands.

Fucking clowns!

http://i.imgur.com/8ZVtr.jpg

Typical snacks, manipulating shit to prove your point.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/07/10/alg_christian-lopez-derek-jeter.jpg

[A.J.]

Typical snacks, manipulating shit to prove your point.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/07/10/alg_christian-lopez-derek-jeter.jpg

Actually that second pic with the half-assed smile helps prove his point.

[disneyspy]

i'd of done the same thing as the guy that caught the ball did,you give it back,theres no amount of money worth having your self dignity taken away

[StanUpshaw]

lol, that's cute.

[disneyspy]

i make no excuses for not being a lowlife scumbag with no self worth

[StanUpshaw]

Question why you derive self worth from the goings-on at Yankee Stadium.

[disneyspy]

Question why you derive self worth from the goings-on at Yankee Stadium.

its any stadium,with any player that hits a ball thats a benchmark out into the crowd and i catch it,i give it back because i'm not scum

[TripleSkeet]

Typical snacks, manipulating shit to prove your point.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/07/10/alg_christian-lopez-derek-jeter.jpg

Thats the roughest looking 23 year old Ive ever seen. Maybe he couldve used some of the million to get a personal trainer so he didnt resemble a manatee.

And hes right, Jeter looks pretty disinterested in both of these pictures.

[TripleSkeet]

its any stadium,with any player that hits a ball thats a benchmark out into the crowd and i catch it,i give it back because i'm not scum

Youre logic is baffling and retarded. Yea selling a stupid baseball to help make life easier for me and my kids makes me "scum". That makes sense. Basically giving a million dollars back to a guy worth a quarter billion is definitely the right thing to do. Fucking morons.

[disneyspy]

i dont know why some of you have to think i was directing anything at you,i know i dont have to call people names(because i think that just makes you seem less than) i just know what i would do

[StanUpshaw]

i dont know why some of you have to think i was directing anything at you,i know i dont have to call people names(because i think that just makes you seem less than) i just know what i would do

You probably would have judo chopped the terrorists and stopped 9/11 from happening too.

[disneyspy]

now you're giving me too much credit,i couldnt be on all 4 planes at once

[TripleSkeet]

i dont know why some of you have to think i was directing anything at you,i know i dont have to call people names(because i think that just makes you seem less than) i just know what i would do

You just said you would give it back because youre not scum, implying everyone that wouldnt have given it back was scum. Thats why you got the reply you did.

[disneyspy]

You just said you would give it back because youre not scum, implying everyone that wouldnt have given it back was scum. Thats why you got the reply you did.

i know,i was tryin the passive/agressive thing and didn't come out as funny as did when i said it out loud,my fucking timing and inflection suck on a board

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Youre logic is baffling and retarded. Yea selling a stupid baseball to help make life easier for me and my kids makes me "scum". That makes sense. Basically giving a million dollars back to a guy worth a quarter billion is definitely the right thing to do. Fucking morons.



Lets say the ball sold for 1MM after taxes you net 750 , (not sure what the rate is but Im using an estimate) give 100k to a charity of your choice thats still 650K in the black for catching a ball. The Yankees gave him seats for the rest of the yr which equals 40K. Thats not being greedy thats being smart, plus you did a good deed by giving some to a charity. Giving a multi millionaire a ball that really isnt his gets you a handshake? Fuck that, cash is king

[TripleSkeet]

Lets say the ball sold for 1MM after taxes you net 750 , (not sure what the rate is but Im using an estimate) give 100k to a charity of your choice thats still 650K in the black for catching a ball. The Yankees gave him seats for the rest of the yr which equals 40K. Thats not being greedy thats being smart, plus you did a good deed by giving some to a charity. Giving a multi millionaire a ball that really isnt his gets you a handshake? Fuck that, cash is king

The best part is, that $100k he gives to charity could be for a Yankees charity banquet and would get him to meet Derek Jeter and shake his hand anyway.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The best part is, that $100k he gives to charity could be for a Yankees charity banquet and would get him to meet Derek Jeter and shake his hand anyway.

100K To Jeters Turn 2 foundation would definitely get a handshake and photo

[Snacks]

I wish I caught it so I could piss on it every day until it sold for 500k or more. Hell, I'd probably wait until this recession passed and sell it during high times, but that may be a while. Come to think of it, NOW is the time to sell bc the rich have even more than normal vs reg schlubs like us and tax rates are lower for the transaction. I'm sure there's some asshole that would have throwaway money to buy it. I'd actually hope for a Sox fan/yank hater to sell it to them to burn. No matter, go pay for your autograph from St. Jeter you fucking fools.

Hell, go buy yourself a limited edition Steiner sports honorary plaque and ball commemorating this achievement! But act quick bc there are only 3000 of them, one for each hit the Captain has on his way to yankee history. Each comes with it's own mlb/steiner hologram on the ball and plague, along with a matching numbered certified letter of authenticity as well. The picture behind it will be Jeter getting that specific hit along with the story behind it. Own your piece of yankee captain history for only $399.99. Small price to pay for history wouldn't you say!?

Shit, outside of the price my joke idea sounds pretty fucking cool! :laugh:

Are you being serious or making a joke? Because I would bet anything that Steiner sports sent out an email just like that the second he hit that ball with some "limited" autographed Jeter Mr 3000 hit, Captain bull shit for around $500. Which Jeter made money off of. But some expect a fan to give the ball back to Jeter for nothing because "hes The Captain and hes my favorite yankee of all time..." blah blah blah.


Typical snacks, manipulating shit to prove your point.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/07/10/alg_christian-lopez-derek-jeter.jpg

Actually I didnt need to search for anything to prove my pic. I read 1 article on yahoos home page and that was the only picture they posted of the 2 of them together. You dont need much more proof. Jeter dont care about any of you why do you care that much about him. I lost even more respect for Jeter after seeing him wear that T-Shirt. Talk about trying to sell something and make even more money? He is 1 Greedy over rated MF!

Actually that second pic with the half-assed smile helps prove his point.

I agree, Jeter wants nothing to do with that guy and cant get away fast enough. He cant even fake it for the cameras.

[JimBeam]

I think the whole thing was way overhyped, especially for something 27 other guys have done ( including players on lesser teams like Houston and Milwaukee ) but I don't think you can say that Jeter didn't wanna have anything to do with the guy.

I hate Jeter and all the undeserved attention he gets but I'm sure he treated this guy in a respectable manner.

Now I don't think they're gonna have dinner together or be life long pals but I'm sure it was all that anybody would've gotten from any player/fan interaction of that focus.

Now we can get back to making fun of the rest of Jeter's season when he drops below .240 by September.

[keithy_19]

http://www.progressiveboink.com/mike/img/sandlot/jamesearljones6.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Typical snacks, manipulating shit to prove your point.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/07/10/alg_christian-lopez-derek-jeter.jpg




jeters smiling cause he aint touching the guy in this pic

[cougarjake13]

well if he plays out his current contract and avgs about 175 hits the next 3 yrs thatll put him over 3500


unless he plays to 45 like rose he aint getting 4000

[Furtherman]

I'm an honest guy who puts loyalty and good gestures like this way up there as it mattered to have some kind of moral code. Sometimes it hasn't had good results and I try and fool myself that I did the right thing. That's a message in a movie, not real life. I think sailor is right about owing your family to sell it. I would feel terrible until I saw the smile on my parent's or brother's faces because I was able to help them out. I also think most people would feel the same way.

[TripleSkeet]

I'm an honest guy who puts loyalty and good gestures like this way up there as it mattered to have some kind of moral code. Sometimes it hasn't had good results and I try and fool myself that I did the right thing. That's a message in a movie, not real life. I think sailor is right about owing your family to sell it. I would feel terrible until I saw the smile on my parent's or brother's faces because I was able to help them out. I also think most people would feel the same way.

Can anyone tell me why giving the ball to him is the moral or right thing to do? I would like an explanation on this. He didnt lose the ball, he doesnt own the ball at any time. It belongs to MLB first and once it crosses the wall it become property of the fan that caught it. So what makes giving him the ball (I cant even say give it BACK because it was never his to begin with) the right thing or even the moral thing to do?


It may be the NICE thing to do but that doesnt make it right or moral.

[keithy_19]

http://craazylove.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/jamesearljones6.jpg

[sailor]

I also imagine he didn't have an idea how much it was worth and didn't take time to think it over 'cause he was caught up in the moment. Even if you disagree with him it seems silly to call him names.

[StanUpshaw]

http://craazylove.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/jamesearljones6.jpg

Was that really worth the second attempt?

[JimBeam]

I heard an interview with the guy this morning and he was explaining how security rushed to him right away ( most likely to prevent any fighting over the ball ) and the hurried he and his dad into some secret parts of the stadium ( to get him to make a decision on what to do with the ball ).

He said they asked him right away " So what do you want ? ".

Now they were totally hotboxing him knowing that he had no idea what the ball would be worth to anybody ( be it Jeter himself or a collector ) and they knew if they pressured him to make a decision he'd never come up with the same things he would if he had time to think about it.

If he was smart ( that's guessing that he really wasn't honestly just going to give the ball to Jeter ) he'd have said " Give me a few days to think about it. I won't do anything with the ball until I've had a chance to talk with Jeter and/or the Yankees. "

I've heard what the Yankees gave him but any word from Jeter other than some shitty signed gear ?

[keithy_19]

Was that really worth the second attempt?

No. But hey, bandwidth needs to be used and what not.

[Justice4all]

If there ever was a guy who was at the right place, right time, right team, it's Derek Jeter. I have a Jeter Jersey and think he's ok but I can't stand the people that think he's the best ever cuz he's on the Yankees (who about get to the post season regularly I'll admit cuz they got the money). So what he got whatever World Championship rings, he didn't win the game by himself and is he the greatest NY Yankees captain ever, I don't think so but he's a teflon don that Jeter is.

He's not the greatest Yankee to ever play but he's in the top 10 for damn sure.
And let's not forget, he did something no other Yankee has every done. EVER.
He's a 1st ballot Hall of Famer. No question.

[Furtherman]

Can anyone tell me why giving the ball to him is the moral or right thing to do? I would like an explanation on this. He didnt lose the ball, he doesnt own the ball at any time. It belongs to MLB first and once it crosses the wall it become property of the fan that caught it. So what makes giving him the ball (I cant even say give it BACK because it was never his to begin with) the right thing or even the moral thing to do?


It may be the NICE thing to do but that doesnt make it right or moral.

I didn't say it was THE moral thing to do, only my version of it. Everyone's so called "moral code" is unique. I only said I would feel I should, but my family would come first. Eventually, it would come down to being in that moment.

[JimBeam]

He's not the greatest Yankee to ever play but he's in the top 10 for damn sure.
And let's not forget, he did something no other Yankee has every done. EVER.
He's a 1st ballot Hall of Famer. No question.

But just doing something because a Yankee has never done it doesn't make it any more impressive.

Why is this hit any bigger than Biggio's ? The answer is it's not. It's not bigger than any of the other 27 guys.

The baseball world does not revolve around NY no matter what some people would like to think.

Gehrig surely would've done it. And he proably wouldn't have been batting sub-.260 when he did.

[spoon]

He's not the greatest Yankee to ever play but he's in the top 10 for damn sure.
And let's not forget, he did something no other Yankee has every done. EVER.
He's a 1st ballot Hall of Famer. No question.

First off, technically it has been done by Yankees, just not every hit. See Wade Boggs.

Next, Top 10? He's not even the best on this current team coming in behind Mariano. I'm not saying this can't be argued, but it's not that easy.

Quickly I come up a few easily up for debate pending on how you rate "greatest yankee to ever play".

Babe Ruth
Mariano Rivera
Mikey Mantle
Adam Kennedy
Lou Gehrig
Joe DiMaggio
Roger Maris
Yogi Berra
Joba Chamberlain
Reggie Jackson
Whitey Ford
Ron Guidry
Phil Hughes
Thurman Munson
Bill Dickey
Jim Leyritz

[spoon]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/07/10/alg_christian-lopez-derek-jeter.jpg

My guess is we'll be seeing Christian Lopez and Jeter both have an Edge commercial, mainly bc it seems likely it's the most he can hope to get out of this. If it isn't coming from those AROUND Jeter, it seemingly isn't happening. I hope I'm wrong, but so far he signed some bats and balls, oh and shook his hand. The fucking yankees supplied them and the seats/suite. Sorry, time to fucking step up A LITTLE Derek. Your brand combined with the fans helped get you multiple millions each year of at least this last contract. This kid sells fucking cell phones right, so he makes what, 45k max a year? Not much that's for sure. Perhaps he'll get all his sponsors to do what's right for him? He's already leaned on his team and the media.

Did Arod do anything at all for the guy who caught his 500th? I remember pretty much nothing.

[Snoogans]

First off, technically it has been done by Yankees, just not every hit. See Wade Boggs.

Next, Top 10? He's not even the best on this current team coming in behind Mariano. I'm not saying this can't be argued, but it's not that easy.

Quickly I come up a few easily up for debate pending on how you rate "greatest yankee to ever play".

Babe Ruth
Mariano Rivera
Mikey Mantle
Adam Kennedy
Lou Gehrig
Joe DiMaggio
Roger Maris
Yogi Berra
Joba Chamberlain
Reggie Jackson
Whitey Ford
Ron Guidry
Phil Hughes
Thurman Munson
Bill Dickey
Jim Leyritz

i got a few more

Felix Heredia
Ramiro Pena
Roberto Kelly
Carl Pavano
Kevin Brown
Sidney Ponson

[Snoogans]

Hideki Irabu

[spoon]

Chuck (JustJon Arm) Knoblauch

[spoon]

Kenny Rogers

Kei Igawa

Jaret Wright

[Snoogans]

Roger Clemens

[spoon]

All our teams can claim that fuck. Yet he was probably had the most "clean" time with your team, was a test subject for Canseco on mine and a human porcupine in NY.

[Snoogans]

All our teams can claim that fuck. Yet he was probably had the most "clean" time with your team, was a test subject for Canseco on mine and a human porcupine in NY.

im convinced he only did roids BECAUSE boston told him he was washed up and to fuck off.

[spoon]

It may hold up, bc it seemingly fits the storyline. I know though for sure he was juiced up on Toronto. I hope they take away his Cy's and give it to the number 2 in votes. To me only two guys won a CY in Toronto, and he isn't one of them.

Then again, one isn't at good as Mike Pelfry I am told.

[StanUpshaw]

Don Mattingly? He's a guy right?

Bernie Williams?

[spoon]

Take away Clemens two in Toronto (as they should) and it gives Pedro his 4th and Randy Johnson his 6th! Two studs not linked or suspected AT ALL, and it drops Roger to 5. 2 of which were dripping steroids in NY. It literally makes Randy the most decorated CY pitcher EVER and Pedro tied for 2nd. The fucking impact is unreal.

[spoon]

Don Mattingly? He's a guy right?

Bernie Williams?

no no, you're a little off

you need names more like...Kevin Maas, Luis Sojo

[StanUpshaw]

Steve Sax?

I'm trying to remember names from my collection of 91 Donruss.

[spoon]

Steve Sax?

I'm trying to remember names from my collection of 91 Donruss.

Steve Sax, nice!

he has NOTHING on Matt Nokes though!

[StanUpshaw]

I think I'm getting the hang of this...

DEION SANDERS WAS A BETTER YANKEE THAN DEREK JETER!!!!

[spoon]

:lol::wallbash:

somehow mix those two please

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/y58nN.jpg

[sailor]

eddie lee whitson

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Andy Hawkins. Threw a no hitter and lost.

[Misteriosa]

i was at the game this past saturday. it was a cool moment. every time jeter went up to bat, people were standing like it was the damn world series. very cool that he capped it off with a homerun :clap:

as for giving the ball back, i would def need a few days to think about it. my family could really use the money that the ball could generate, and if i caught the ball, whatever we choose would have to be a decision that we all agreed upon.

but thats just me.

[Misteriosa]

here is the hug:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/Misteriosa_NYC/jeter3khug.jpg

and here is the encore:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/Misteriosa_NYC/jeter3kencore.jpg

[disneyspy]

here is the hug:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/Misteriosa_NYC/jeter3khug.jpg

and here is the encore:

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f298/Misteriosa_NYC/jeter3kencore.jpg

that would've been a very cool game to be at,i'm envious

[Misteriosa]

that would've been a very cool game to be at,i'm envious

yeah.. hats took me. he's the best egg :o

[Earlshog]

Dan Pasqua is the greatest.... Lock it up!

William Paterson represent!

[Earlshog]

Lets say the ball sold for 1MM after taxes you net 750 , (not sure what the rate is but Im using an estimate) give 100k to a charity of your choice thats still 650K in the black for catching a ball. The Yankees gave him seats for the rest of the yr which equals 40K. Thats not being greedy thats being smart, plus you did a good deed by giving some to a charity. Giving a multi millionaire a ball that really isnt his gets you a handshake? Fuck that, cash is king

everyone making this argument is missing the point... To some people money is not the end all be all.

[newport king]

everyone making this argument is missing the point... To some people money is not the end all be all.

those people are stupid.

Tony Fernandez 4LIFE

[Earlshog]

those people are stupid.

Tony Fernandez 4LIFE

:laugh:

Tony Fernandez ain't got shit on Alvero Espiozna!

[A.J.]

Mel Hall!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Helmsey Bam Bam Meulens

Steve Kemp

[newport king]

Butch Wynegar, Luis Polonia, Steve Trout

[Earlshog]

Mel Hall!

The pride of the Yankees!

Hall was arrested in Lewisville, Texas on June 21, 2007 and charged with two counts of sexual assault after North Richland Hills, Texas police received a report from a woman who claimed she was sexually assaulted in March 1999, when she was under the age of 17. During the investigation, a second alleged victim under the age of 14 was identified. One of these girls was 12 at the time of the rape. On June 16, 2009, Hall was convicted on three counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of indecency with a child. On June 17, 2009, he was sentenced to 45 years in prison. He must serve 22 years and 4 months before he's eligible for parole.

[Earlshog]

Mike "Pags" Pagliarulo

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Melido Perez

Roberto Kelly

[JimBeam]

The pride of the Yankees!

Hall was arrested in Lewisville, Texas on June 21, 2007 and charged with two counts of sexual assault after North Richland Hills, Texas police received a report from a woman who claimed she was sexually assaulted in March 1999, when she was under the age of 17. During the investigation, a second alleged victim under the age of 14 was identified. One of these girls was 12 at the time of the rape. On June 16, 2009, Hall was convicted on three counts of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of indecency with a child. On June 17, 2009, he was sentenced to 45 years in prison. He must serve 22 years and 4 months before he's eligible for parole.

There was a classroom building at Auburn named " Mel Hall ".

Did I miss Ken Phelps being mentioned ?

They loved his bat.

[TripleSkeet]

I was listening to WIP this morning and they were talking about starting a crusade against the Yankees to try and get them and Jeter to give this kid some money because they basically took advantage of the poor guy.

Steve Martorano told a great story about Roger Maris' 61st home run ball. It was caught by a 19 year old guy that was engaged. When they brought him in to give the ball back to Maris, he told the kid "Keep the ball kid, maybe you can get a few bucks for it." The guy eventually sold it for $5k to pay for his wedding.

Funny that after all he went through to get to that milestone, thats how generous a guy Maris was. And hes a Yankee that very rarely gets mentioned when talking about a "true Yankee", yet "Mr. Yankee" himself turns out to be a guy worth a quarter billion dollars that took a ball worth half a million dollars from this poor sap. Now that I think of it, I cant think of a more fitting nickname for him.

[JimBeam]

... against the Yankees to try and get them and Jeter to give this kid some money because they basically took advantage of the poor guy.

See I don't think the Yankees did take advantage of him.

They actually gave him something when they really didn't have to do so.

This is Jeter's thing and really should be independent of the organization itself.

The ball's gonna go to Cooperstown and not Yankee Stadium so they shouldn't have cared.

[Snoogans]

See I don't think the Yankees did take advantage of him.

They actually gave him something when they really didn't have to do so.

This is Jeter's thing and really should be independent of the organization itself.

The ball's gonna go to Cooperstown and not Yankee Stadium so they shouldn't have cared.

umm, they actually kinda didhaver to. He owned the ball. He caught it, its his ball. the ball now will be in cooperstown but now its jeters. if he wants it back they will give it back.

This kid shoulda just sold it to cooperstown.

If i had caught the ball i woulda called 2 people to find out what they would pay for it before i did anything else. ARod, and John Henry. i bet arod woulda paid a mill just to get the ball and be able to fuck with jeter

[JimBeam]

No I meant the Yankess themselves could've left the whole thing up to Jeter and the guy since they really didn't have a vested interest in the ball itself.

It doesn't matter at all to them because they can always lay claim that Jeter was wearing a Yankee uniform when he got the hit.

[TripleSkeet]

Yea well anything in the HOF from the Yankees benefits the organization, just as much as anything from other teams that are there benefits them as well. I do agree that Jeter should be the one to give this guy some money.

Hes in the middle of building himself a $15 million home, maybe he should buy this guy a nice house of his own.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Yea well anything in the HOF from the Yankees benefits the organization, just as much as anything from other teams that are there benefits them as well. I do agree that Jeter should be the one to give this guy some money.

Hes in the middle of building himself a $15 million home, maybe he should buy this guy a nice house of his own.

This isnt a house, its a fortress.

New Casa de Jeter

http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/derek_jeters_cool_new_crib__zoom_view#tab=most_rec ent

[Snacks]

The funny thing here is it seems like the public even our poll is split 50/50 ( maybe a few point higher for people to sell it but not by much). I think if there was a huge public outcry maybe they would throw him some money but because it so split and the yankees know their fans are sheep they wont give him anymore then they already did.

This is the problem with yankee fans and the yankees org knows it. The org can do whatever they want and the yankee fans will keep dishing their money out. Other then the seats behind home plate yankee fans just give in to whatever this org sells them. Ticket price being raised, t shirts that say captain 3000 for $40, steiner sports selling them grass from the old field for $100 etc. They are morons and the yanks benefit.

Lets be real this kid got screwed and its his own fault. He got tickets for the rest of the season which cost the yankees nothing. These tickets probably werent sold anyway so its not like they are taking them away from a paying customer. A few signed jerseys and balls. Once again no value. This isnt 1920s and autographs are worth money. Players sign so much shit that there is no value to them anymore except for the initial sale from steiner or some other garbage thief of a company just like them. Buy a Signed Jeter ball for $500 on steiner and try to sell it I bet it doesnt get you half of what you paid for it!

If this was any other team these same yankee fans would have said to keep the ball. The difference is this was the yanks and Jesus Jeter. They are so blinded by things it makes people hate them and jeter even more.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The funny thing here is it seems like the public even our poll is split 50/50 ( maybe a few point higher for people to sell it but not by much). I think if there was a huge public outcry maybe they would throw him some money but because it so split and the yankees know their fans are sheep they wont give him anymore then they already did.

This is the problem with yankee fans and the yankees org knows it. The org can do whatever they want and the yankee fans will keep dishing their money out. Other then the seats behind home plate yankee fans just give in to whatever this org sells them. Ticket price being raised, t shirts that say captain 3000 for $40, steiner sports selling them grass from the old field for $100 etc. They are morons and the yanks benefit.

Lets be real this kid got screwed and its his own fault. He got tickets for the rest of the season which cost the yankees nothing. These tickets probably werent sold anyway so its not like they are taking them away from a paying customer. A few signed jerseys and balls. Once again no value. This isnt 1920s and autographs are worth money. Players sign so much shit that there is no value to them anymore except for the initial sale from steiner or some other garbage thief of a company just like them. Buy a Signed Jeter ball for $500 on steiner and try to sell it I bet it doesnt get you half of what you paid for it!

If this was any other team these same yankee fans would have said to keep the ball. The difference is this was the yanks and Jesus Jeter. They are so blinded by things it makes people hate them and jeter even more.



You hit the nail on the head in regards to the Yankees and the gullible fans like Lopez. Those seats that they gave Lopez will be a tax writeoff for the Yankees. The season tickets are going to be the worst deal Lopez ever made. Look how much he is going to spend for transportation costs going back and forth. Plus all the concessions beer etc. Maybe he can sell a few games but hes not going to rake in the cash like what he could have made.

[JimBeam]

Yeah but the Yankees also do stupid things for their fans like signing a Jeter to a 3 year $17 million per contract because he's a fan favorite.

That surely wasn't a business move.

[TripleSkeet]

Those were overpriced, unsold tickets they gave him.

For the life of me I dont understand how anyone that actually works for a living can say it was the right move to give the ball to him. Its baffling. This kid will go down as sucker of the decade in my book, but I will use his example to teach my kids what NOT to do if you are ever lucky enough to catch any kind of home run ball at a baseball game.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I've changed my tune. The guy is in debt up to eyes on student loans. Dumb fucking move.

[Snoogans]

Yeah but the Yankees also do stupid things for their fans like signing a Jeter to a 3 year $17 million per contract because he's a fan favorite.

That surely wasn't a business move.

well, in a way it was. the fans that wouldnt have spend money if you didnt keep jeter cause they were pissed clearly will make up the amount of money jeter is paid, and more. Especially after they all get their DJ3K T Shirts (ONLY 40 bucks). Trust me, the yankees arent gonna get hurt cause jeter makes that money unless they actually keep him in the lineup once he is genuinely hurting the team. And even then, its not gonna be the price thats hurting them

[Snoogans]

I've changed my tune. The guy is in debt up to eyes on student loans. Dumb fucking move.

someone had a talk with his wife, i see

[Snacks]

I love listening to people saying that his father raised him right. The father said in the paper that if he caught it he probably would have handled it differently but he is still proud of his son. These fans saying meeting Jeter is enough for them. LOSERS! Why do people care so much about meeting a celeb or athlete? Who cares if you met him. You can always pay for a meet and greet. You can always go early to a game. You can always go to the club and hang in the vip (especially if you have cash from selling the ball)

The only way this will turn out to be the right decision is if he gets some commercials with Jeter and he gets paid for them. If not hes a loser!

Boomer said today that it was great what this kid did but if Jeter sold the ball he should give the kid 10%. 10%? Fuck that he should have gotten 100% and if Jeter sold the ball hes a douche! Boomer did admit and as we all know there is no reason for Jeter to sell the ball so this will never happen.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I think the whole contract thing was a circus and they overpaid to bring him back. Jeter already made his big payday with a 10 year contract averaging 18.9 million a year. The Yankees should have offered him a 2 year deal at most far from 17MM a year. What would Jeters camp do? Would they really try to test the free agent market? No other team would have given him close to what he should have gotten. IMHO he should not be making more than 10mm a year. Would he take 3MM and play for the royals? Hell no. Management should have held firm and called his bluff. He would have come back

[Tenbatsuzen]

someone had a talk with his wife, i see

No. My thought process has always been that the only way I get rid of the ball is if my kid is taken care of. But hearing that he's got MONSTROUS student debt, debt that does not go away and cannot be charged off in a bankruptcy, then he's a fool.

My original thought process is that he's just a kid, starting out, and he doesn't have a lot of money issues. But now hearing this... even if he got 50k-100k he would have made a serious dent in his loans. Just dumb.

[JimBeam]

I think the whole contract thing was a circus and they overpaid to bring him back. Jeter already made his big payday with a 10 year contract averaging 18.9 million a year. The Yankees should have offered him a 2 year deal at most far from 17MM a year. What would Jeters camp do? Would they really try to test the free agent market? No other team would have given him close to what he should have gotten. IMHO he should not be making more than 10mm a year. Would he take 3MM and play for the royals? Hell no. Management should have held firm and called his bluff. He would have come back

Also it's not like Yankee fans are going to stop going to games if Jeter's not there.

A good portion of them are posers and just follow the lead and/or become disinterested ( until the next World Series of course ).

[JimBeam]

Who/why would Jeter sell the ball ?

The money he'd get from it would mean nothing to him. The ball would mean so much more.

We've gotta give this fan a bit of a pass because even though all of us in hindsight can question what he did he might not have known what to do.

He might not have had any idea what the ball would be worth and din't want to take a chance on not getting anything.

I'm sure as I said in a previous post that there was obviously some pressure from the organization so who knows what we'd all have done.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Also it's not like Yankee fans are going to stop going to games if Jeter's not there.

A good portion of them are posers and just follow the lead and/or become disinterested ( until the next World Series of course ).

Hypothetically if he signed with a small mkt team he would not be the starting SS. He would have been a DH.

If Reyes didnt have his hamstring problems, the Yankees should go for him, but its a huge risk now. In a perfect world I would definitely sign a healthy Reyes and tell Jeter to become a DH or outfielder. Robin Yount moved to the outfield in his later years.

[Gutter]

Who/why would Jeter sell the ball ?

if you're referring to Opie saying that on the show today, it was meant to be a joke.....it was pretty funny too.

[Snacks]

if you're referring to Opie saying that on the show today, it was meant to be a joke.....it was pretty funny too.

Boomer Esiason said it today and was serious until Carton went nuts on him saying it would never happen. He then admitted there would be no reason to sell it but IF he did he should then give this kid money, like 10%.

[TripleSkeet]

Who/why would Jeter sell the ball ?

The money he'd get from it would mean nothing to him. The ball would mean so much more.

We've gotta give this fan a bit of a pass because even though all of us in hindsight can question what he did he might not have known what to do.

He might not have had any idea what the ball would be worth and din't want to take a chance on not getting anything.

I'm sure as I said in a previous post that there was obviously some pressure from the organization so who knows what we'd all have done.

I know exactly what I wouldve done.

[Gutter]

Boomer Esiason said it today and was serious until Carton went nuts on him saying it would never happen. He then admitted there would be no reason to sell it but IF he did he should then give this kid money, like 10%.

wow that's just dumb.

[Snacks]

wow that's just dumb.

Want to hear something even dumber? Boomer said he got an email from a friend of his saying that fans and the general public should all send this kid money to thank him for doing the right thing. If enough fans send $5, $6 etc maybe he could pay off his college loans.

First, who says that was the right thing? I dont I think giving the ball to Jeter was the right thing it was wrong thing IMHO. Second, why should avg joes send this kid money when the yanks are worth billions and Jeter is worth hundreds of millions? Once again we are back to the stupidity of society and politics. It like voting for a party that will do everything to benefit the rich while you struggle day to day. People are so naive!

[Earlshog]

Those were overpriced, unsold tickets they gave him.

For the life of me I dont understand how anyone that actually works for a living can say it was the right move to give the ball to him. Its baffling. This kid will go down as sucker of the decade in my book, but I will use his example to teach my kids what NOT to do if you are ever lucky enough to catch any kind of home run ball at a baseball game.

For some people money is not the focal point of every decision. The old adage is (I really stink reciting an old adage) "Money comes and goes, your character is what defines you".

Not saying it applies here or is right or wrong, just shedding a little light in understanding "how anyone that actually works for a living can say it was the right move to give the ball to him". I don't agree with certain elements of this argument, but to me it's important to understand where they originate from.

Does learning he is 100K in debt for his school loans (not sure if that is true or not) put a different perspective on it? I know it’s a lot more commonplace, and people do it, but that’s a lot of scarole to be down starting off with.

Either way this has grown into a fascinating topic (which message board, talk radio, and the like tend to polarize) and I like to think it's made people, have an internal debate and do some soul searching on this issue on where they stand and why, which is never a bad thing.

[JimBeam]

if you're referring to Opie saying that on the show today, it was meant to be a joke.....it was pretty funny too.

I was reffering to Boomer saying it.

First, who says that was the right thing? I dont I think giving the ball to Jeter was the right thing it was wrong thing IMHO. Second, why should avg joes send this kid money when the yanks are worth billions and Jeter is worth hundreds of millions? Once again we are back to the stupidity of society and politics. It like voting for a party that will do everything to benefit the rich while you struggle day to day. People are so naive!

I think they were talking more about the fact that if the average joe sent the kid $5, which isn't much if you think about it, then he could be set.

They compared it to the movie with Nicholas Cage and Bridget Fonda.

[Earlshog]

Boomer Esiason said it today and was serious until Carton went nuts on him saying it would never happen. He then admitted there would be no reason to sell it but IF he did he should then give this kid money, like 10%.

You mean this is the kind of insightful wisdom I miss by not listening to boomer and carton. :ohmy:

[TripleSkeet]

I was reffering to Boomer saying it.



I think they were talking more about the fact that if the average joe sent the kid $5, which isn't much if you think about it, then he could be set.

They compared it to the movie with Nicholas Cage and Bridget Fonda.

Anyone that sends that kid a dime whose name isnt Derek Jeter or Hank Steinbrenner is an even bigger asshole then Lopez himself.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jeter makes just under 105K per game. Paying off Lopez student loans of 100K is a drop in the bucket for Jeter and he can make up for that in a blink of an eye. Hell he can probably use his Ford endorsement money and still have a lot left over from that.

[Snacks]

Jeter makes just under 105K per game. Paying off Lopez student loans of 100K is a drop in the bucket for Jeter and he can make up for that in a blink of an eye. Hell he can probably use his Ford endorsement money and still have a lot left over from that.

He gets paid that much even if he doesnt play and earn it. So why not give this kid the money he earned while being on the DL? He didnt play and was in Florida while relaxing before he was allowed to start running before he played games in Trenton.

[Earlshog]

He gets paid that much even if he doesnt play and earn it. So why not give this kid the money he earned while being on the DL? He didnt play and was in Florida while relaxing before he was allowed to start running before he played games in Trenton.

or maybe the money he saved in taxes by being in Florida i/o New York

[TripleSkeet]

For some people money is not the focal point of every decision. The old adage is (I really stink reciting an old adage) "Money comes and goes, your character is what defines you".

Not saying it applies here or is right or wrong, just shedding a little light in understanding "how anyone that actually works for a living can say it was the right move to give the ball to him". I don't agree with certain elements of this argument, but to me it's important to understand where they originate from.

Does learning he is 100K in debt for his school loans (not sure if that is true or not) put a different perspective on it? I know it’s a lot more commonplace, and people do it, but that’s a lot of scarole to be down starting off with.

Either way this has grown into a fascinating topic (which message board, talk radio, and the like tend to polarize) and I like to think it's made people, have an internal debate and do some soul searching on this issue on where they stand and why, which is never a bad thing.

Look, I get the whole "money isnt everything" deal. I do. Im not a greedy person at all. If this was some doctor that had a good career and had him and his family taken care of, I could see giving it back. But some young shmoe whos $100 grand in debt??? Fucking moron. What kind of education was he getting that he became a cell phone salesman anyway???

I just think its stupid to not look after yourself and your family first, in order to meet a person. There isnt a person in this entire worlds history I would give up that kind of money to meet. When he has kids how does he tell the story of giving that ball back and meeting his idol without feeling like a fucking retard knowing he probably gave their college tuition away???

Whoevere said this guy is going to be kicking himself in the ass in 3 weeks is absolutely right.

[Snacks]

Look, I get the whole "money isnt everything" deal. I do. Im not a greedy person at all. If this was some doctor that had a good career and had him and his family taken care of, I could see giving it back. But some young shmoe whos $100 grand in debt??? Fucking moron. What kind of education was he getting that he became a cell phone salesman anyway???

I just think its stupid to not look after yourself and your family first, in order to meet a person. There isnt a person in this entire worlds history I would give up that kind of money to meet. When he has kids how does he tell the story of giving that ball back and meeting his idol without feeling like a fucking retard knowing he probably gave their college tuition away???

Whoevere said this guy is going to be kicking himself in the ass in 3 weeks is absolutely right.

It does seem as time is going by more and more people are changing their opinion and using their brains. I really cant see how anyone thinks giving the ball to a multi millionaire makes any kind of sense. The ball was never Jeters so why make his life even richer? Even if you were a Dr or Lawyer and made lots of money yourself, why give it to him? Sell it and give it to a family in need. How about there are tons of families without health insurance. $500k would cover maybe 1000 people or maybe more. Start a clinic and cover an entire community. Fuck Jeter and any celeb. As tripleskeet said there isnt 1 celeb I would HAVE to meet or spend a small fortune to either. Yes there are some celebs, politicians or even business people I respect and would love to meet but none are worth even $5k let alone $500k.

[Earlshog]

Look, I get the whole "money isnt everything" deal. I do. Im not a greedy person at all. If this was some doctor that had a good career and had him and his family taken care of, I could see giving it back. But some young shmoe whos $100 grand in debt??? Fucking moron. What kind of education was he getting that he became a cell phone salesman anyway???
I just think its stupid to not look after yourself and your family first, in order to meet a person. There isnt a person in this entire worlds history I would give up that kind of money to meet. When he has kids how does he tell the story of giving that ball back and meeting his idol without feeling like a fucking retard knowing he probably gave their college tuition away???

Whoevere said this guy is going to be kicking himself in the ass in 3 weeks is absolutely right.

It's really hard for college grads to get jobs now. My cousin just finished his MBA ( I want to say he's about 23 - 24) and he is cleaning pools. At least he was smart enough to get his education in state at a public school (Rutgers) so he doesn't owe that kina dough. A lot of his buddies are in the same boat.

[Snacks]

A fan called up Boomer and Carton made a great compromise.

He said he would give it to the Yankees on loan to put in the stadium on display for all fans to see but if and when he wanted it returned so he could sell it or do whatever else he wanted to do with it then the yanks would have to give it back.

Now thats smart and would probably also increase the value because as Jeter gets older and becomes a HOF that ball will increase in value. The only scary thing would be if Jeter ever has a scandal then the value may decrease.

Not a bad idea if you are a die hard yankee fan., You are helping out the team and other yankee fans to all share in the history. But you are also taking care of yourself and if you ever need the money as many people eventually do then its still yours and you can sell it later.

[TripleSkeet]

It's really hard for college grads to get jobs now. My cousin just finished his MBA ( I want to say he's about 23 - 24) and he is cleaning pools. At least he was smart enough to get his education in state at a public school (Rutgers) so he doesn't owe that kina dough. A lot of his buddies are in the same boat.

I think thats even more a reason not to give it away. I wonder how many cell phones he has to sell to pay that tuition off? lol

[TripleSkeet]

A fan called up Boomer and Carton made a great compromise.

He said he would give it to the Yankees on loan to put in the stadium on display for all fans to see but if and when he wanted it returned so he could sell it or do whatever else he wanted to do with it then the yanks would have to give it back.

Now thats smart and would probably also increase the value because as Jeter gets older and becomes a HOF that ball will increase in value. The only scary thing would be if Jeter ever has a scandal then the value may decrease.

Not a bad idea if you are a die hard yankee fan., You are helping out the team and other yankee fans to all share in the history. But you are also taking care of yourself and if you ever need the money as many people eventually do then its still yours and you can sell it later.

Wait, who has the ball now? Jeter? Is he keeping it? When he gave it back to him I assumed he was giving the ball to the HOF. Is he not doing that???

[spoon]

those people are stupid.

Tony Fernandez 4LIFE

Watch your mouth you mofo! If Tony was born in NY he'd be better than Jeter. He makes Jeter look like JustJon at SS defensively and inserted into the yank lineup over the years and you know my point.

[spoon]

I was listening to WIP this morning and they were talking about starting a crusade against the Yankees to try and get them and Jeter to give this kid some money because they basically took advantage of the poor guy.

Steve Martorano told a great story about Roger Maris' 61st home run ball. It was caught by a 19 year old guy that was engaged. When they brought him in to give the ball back to Maris, he told the kid "Keep the ball kid, maybe you can get a few bucks for it." The guy eventually sold it for $5k to pay for his wedding.

Funny that after all he went through to get to that milestone, thats how generous a guy Maris was. And hes a Yankee that very rarely gets mentioned when talking about a "true Yankee", yet "Mr. Yankee" himself turns out to be a guy worth a quarter billion dollars that took a ball worth half a million dollars from this poor sap. Now that I think of it, I cant think of a more fitting nickname for him.

Is that story confirmed? If so, very nice.

DJ3K baby! Isn't is perfect he had that bs t on instead of his f'n iconic jersey being the first ever 3k yank ever?

[spoon]

umm, they actually kinda didhaver to. He owned the ball. He caught it, its his ball. the ball now will be in cooperstown but now its jeters. if he wants it back they will give it back.

This kid shoulda just sold it to cooperstown.

If i had caught the ball i woulda called 2 people to find out what they would pay for it before i did anything else. ARod, and John Henry. i bet arod woulda paid a mill just to get the ball and be able to fuck with jeter

And you DAMN well know his family will ask for it back when Jeter is old and grey to sell it bc they need the money. The ball will fetch 7 figures on the market as Christian and his family watch the fight bt Jeter's living will/lawyers/20 year younger wife and Jeter's family.

[spoon]

No I meant the Yankess themselves could've left the whole thing up to Jeter and the guy since they really didn't have a vested interest in the ball itself.

It doesn't matter at all to them because they can always lay claim that Jeter was wearing a Yankee uniform when he got the hit.

Hence the Yankees DO have a vested interest in this whole thing. That much is easy to see in my mind.

However, they stepped up unlike Jeter. Jeter should step up more, as the yankees did plenty in my mind. I truly think Jeter will let everyone around him take care of the kid, like Gatorade, Ford and the Yankees. Pathetic with all his money.

[Snacks]

Wait, who has the ball now? Jeter? Is he keeping it? When he gave it back to him I assumed he was giving the ball to the HOF. Is he not doing that???

I think jeter has it and either he will keep it for himself or maybe he will give it to the hof? I dont know. I just liked that other guys idea of loaning it to the yanks to display at the stadium but ownership stays with the guy who caught it. Obviously this didnt happen but it was a good idea.

[spoon]

For some people money is not the focal point of every decision. The old adage is (I really stink reciting an old adage) "Money comes and goes, your character is what defines you".

Not saying it applies here or is right or wrong, just shedding a little light in understanding "how anyone that actually works for a living can say it was the right move to give the ball to him". I don't agree with certain elements of this argument, but to me it's important to understand where they originate from.

Does learning he is 100K in debt for his school loans (not sure if that is true or not) put a different perspective on it? I know it’s a lot more commonplace, and people do it, but that’s a lot of scarole to be down starting off with.

Either way this has grown into a fascinating topic (which message board, talk radio, and the like tend to polarize) and I like to think it's made people, have an internal debate and do some soul searching on this issue on where they stand and why, which is never a bad thing.

Soul searching? If you think this MLB fanboy vs providing for ur middle class family is a topic that involves soul searching I miss the deep introspective angle you provide. To me that's WAY too over the top for such a discussion. If it involved this kid selling it and then giving every dime to charity then maybe, but this is just common sense to me, not a ethics based choice in any way. We're talking about a rich baseball team, player pressuring some goofy kid into making a very bad call.

Also, small factors like his loans may sway those with opinions built on foundations of sand but it really doesn't matter. The kid and fam paid for said seats and he caught the ball. He had a winning lottery ticket in his hand and tossed to his golden calf bc he hits balls in the summer. He had a chance to set up his family for a great start and he tossed it for a few sigs and seats that he'll pay taxes on now. Even if, a BIG IF, he gets something from sponsors and or his work via commercials, I think he made a stupid impulsive decision, the wrong one. Will we see the Jeter has an Edge and Christian has Focus ads and a replay of the kid taking pictures of Jeter just before he catches the ball? Or will Jeter do the right thing and step up and just cover his loans and say thanks? To me, he still tossed a couple hundred grand out the window to be some pseudo hero/uber fanboy.

Once again, I just don't get this "right thing to do" mentality thing so many like to add to the discussion. You're right in it's not always about money, sure. However it is always about my family and not making rash decisions. He didn't see it the same way obviously.

[spoon]

Anyone that sends that kid a dime whose name isnt Derek Jeter or Hank Steinbrenner is an even bigger asshole then Lopez himself.

Indeed.

[spoon]

Jeter makes just under 105K per game. Paying off Lopez student loans of 100K is a drop in the bucket for Jeter and he can make up for that in a blink of an eye. Hell he can probably use his Ford endorsement money and still have a lot left over from that.

Not to mention it would solidify him as a much better guy than Arod (how he handled that poor worker who caught it) and help form an even bigger image among other Yankee legends. Sorry to say, at this point he already lost some of the pop it would have had if he had immediately stated I'm gonna take care of this awesome kid or something along the lines of that. Now it'll look forced by the discussion out there, but still better than where it is right now. Yet Christian stated he got more than what he wanted so perhaps he deserves it all! Have fun paying taxes on that overpriced lux suite!

[spoon]

It's really hard for college grads to get jobs now. My cousin just finished his MBA ( I want to say he's about 23 - 24) and he is cleaning pools. At least he was smart enough to get his education in state at a public school (Rutgers) so he doesn't owe that kina dough. A lot of his buddies are in the same boat.

Great point on the state school. College is a fucking business at this point and is truly what you make of it pretty much anywhere.

[StanUpshaw]

For some people money is not the focal point of every decision. The old adage is (I really stink reciting an old adage) "Money comes and goes, your character is what defines you".

Not saying it applies here or is right or wrong, just shedding a little light in understanding "how anyone that actually works for a living can say it was the right move to give the ball to him". I don't agree with certain elements of this argument, but to me it's important to understand where they originate from.

I'd love for someone to actually explain to me how one's character is being tested here. I honestly try to comprehend it, and the only way it's adding up is if you imagine that "love of the game" is some intrinsic virtue. And at that point, my imagination just stops working, because surely no one can be that warped, can they?

[cougarjake13]

Great point on the state school. College is a fucking business at this point and is truly what you make of it pretty much anywhere.



fuck i got a 4 year degree and im not using it for nothing but i still gotta pay back the loan


luckily it was only 15 k total

[Snoogans]

fuck i got a 4 year degree and im not using it for nothing but i still gotta pay back the loan


luckily it was only 15 k total

what did you go to school in 1945?

[cougarjake13]

what did you go to school in 1945?

na 95 to 02


didnt go away to school so that was money not spent and then i went to not expensive schools

[Snoogans]

na 95 to 02


didnt go away to school so that was money not spent and then i went to not expensive schools

William Paterson, which is a state school in Wayne, NJ, was like 10 grand for 1 year in 2002. How the fuck did you go to school for 7 years and pay 15 grand

[StanUpshaw]

William Paterson, which is a state school in Wayne, NJ, was like 10 grand for 1 year in 2002. How the fuck did you go to school for 7 years and pay 15 grand

The registrar liked sloppy blowjobs.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The slobberfest Kay, Sterling, Waldman etc. was too fucking much. Especially when they all said that Jeter was under intense stress and pressure? Are you kidding me? Stress and Pressure was Jackie Robinson being called the N word and getting death threats. Same thing with Aaron when we was going for 715. Maris didnt go thru the stress that Aaron and Robinson did but for the most part he was hated by the media for a while. In '61 the rightful person to break the record according to the majority of fans and the press was Mantle he basically owned NY sports

[brettmojo]

I'd love for someone to actually explain to me how one's character is being tested here. I honestly try to comprehend it, and the only way it's adding up is if you imagine that "love of the game" is some intrinsic virtue. And at that point, my imagination just stops working, because surely no one can be that warped, can they?
If someone can be as jaded as some of the people in this thread then they probably can.

[brettmojo]

The slobberfest Kay, Sterling, Waldman etc. was too fucking much. Especially when they all said that Jeter was under intense stress and pressure? Are you kidding me? Stress and Pressure was Jackie Robinson being called the N word and getting death threats. Same thing with Aaron when we was going for 715. Maris didnt go thru the stress that Aaron and Robinson did but for the most part he was hated by the media for a while. In '61 the rightful person to break the record according to the majority of fans and the press was Mantle he basically owned NY sports
He was getting death threats, shit thrown at him on the field and his hair was falling out... But yeah, nothing majorly stressful.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He was getting death threats, shit thrown at him on the field and his hair was falling out... But yeah, nothing majorly stressful.

I know his hair was falling out. I didnt know about the threats etc.

What stress was Jeter under? He wouldnt get 3000 in NY?

[Snoogans]

He was getting death threats, shit thrown at him on the field and his hair was falling out... But yeah, nothing majorly stressful.

please, doesnt everyone get so stressed their hair just falls out? Thats not common?

[Sinestro]

Can we just stop with all this crazy talk about the kid "who caught the ball". He didn't CATCH the ball, it fell into his lap and he corralled the ball like a hamburger. Maybe he didn't want to keep the ball for the money because technically he didn't CATCH it.


Fuck! He should have taken the money. and Jeter the big phony should just quietly take care if his college loan paid in full. Fucking taking a pic with the kid with the Modell's shirt that you can buy to relive the moment or Steiner sports whatever they hacking. Money gruber Jeter.

[sailor]

fuck i got a 4 year degree and im not using it for nothing but i still gotta pay back the loan


luckily it was only 15 k total

William Paterson, which is a state school in Wayne, NJ, was like 10 grand for 1 year in 2002. How the fuck did you go to school for 7 years and pay 15 grand

i think he's saying 15k total loans, not total tuition.

[brettmojo]

please, doesnt everyone get so stressed their hair just falls out? Thats not common?
It happens to the greatest of women's shoe salesmen...

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdV__rj_XOlhvv1-kp_jYmkYrSWteQg1w93boQ_i8OyzVr070F&t=1

[Justice4all]

But just doing something because a Yankee has never done it doesn't make it any more impressive.

Why is this hit any bigger than Biggio's ? The answer is it's not. It's not bigger than any of the other 27 guys.

The baseball world does not revolve around NY no matter what some people would like to think.

Gehrig surely would've done it. And he proably wouldn't have been batting sub-.260 when he did.

But Gehrig DIDN'T and that's the point. No Yankee has come close to doing it. And you think this hit isn't bigger than Biggio? Jeter took 4 LESS years to do this. He's the 4th youngest player to get to 3000.
By the time he's done he just might crack the top 10 all time.
And the baseball world pretty much makes Jeter one of, if not THE, poster child of MLB for more than just his hit and plays on the field.

Lastly, with the LONG fucking tradition the Yankees have, all those Hall of Famers, some of them the greatest players to ever play the game, to be able to do something none of them have at this level MAKES IT impressive.

So please, just stop.

[Justice4all]

First off, technically it has been done by Yankees, just not every hit. See Wade Boggs.

Next, Top 10? He's not even the best on this current team coming in behind Mariano. I'm not saying this can't be argued, but it's not that easy.

Quickly I come up a few easily up for debate pending on how you rate "greatest yankee to ever play".

Babe Ruth
Mariano Rivera
Mikey Mantle
Adam Kennedy
Lou Gehrig
Joe DiMaggio
Roger Maris
Yogi Berra
Joba Chamberlain
Reggie Jackson
Whitey Ford
Ron Guidry
Phil Hughes
Thurman Munson
Bill Dickey
Jim Leyritz

Kennedy OUT
Joba OUT
Hughes OUT
Leyritz OUT.

That should shorten your 'list'. I know you are trying to make a joke by putting them in there

[Justice4all]

Don Mattingly? He's a guy right?

Bernie Williams?

Two VERY beloved Yankees. In the hearts of the fans, they are irreplacable. But on a stat level? No where near the H.O.F. Too many other players have come at their time who deserve it more.

[TripleSkeet]

I think jeter has it and either he will keep it for himself or maybe he will give it to the hof? I dont know. I just liked that other guys idea of loaning it to the yanks to display at the stadium but ownership stays with the guy who caught it. Obviously this didnt happen but it was a good idea.

Hes KEEPING IT???? Why the fuck would he even accept the fucking ball just to display it in his house??? I can maybe understand wanting to send it to the HOF, but keeping it just makes him a bigger asshole. He obviously would never sell it, and would never need the money, so why not give the ball back to this shmuck on wheels so he can get out of his debt hole, and instead put his BAT up for display in his house? I mean after all, it makes more sense considering it was his 3000th HIT.

[Justice4all]

This isnt a house, its a fortress.

New Casa de Jeter

http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/derek_jeters_cool_new_crib__zoom_view#tab=most_rec ent

Holy fuck! Where the hell IS that thing? It sure doesn't look like Jersey or New York

[Justice4all]

I love listening to people saying that his father raised him right. The father said in the paper that if he caught it he probably would have handled it differently but he is still proud of his son. These fans saying meeting Jeter is enough for them. LOSERS! Why do people care so much about meeting a celeb or athlete? Who cares if you met him. You can always pay for a meet and greet. You can always go early to a game. You can always go to the club and hang in the vip (especially if you have cash from selling the ball)

The only way this will turn out to be the right decision is if he gets some commercials with Jeter and he gets paid for them. If not hes a loser!




EVERYONE want's to meet a legend!

[StanUpshaw]

Holy fuck! Where the hell IS that thing? It sure doesn't look like Jersey or New York

He's a rich athlete, so of course it's FL

[TripleSkeet]

He's a rich athlete, so of course it's FL

Duh. No state or city tax. It looks like a cozy little bachelor pad. Perfect size for a single guy with no kids.

[Justice4all]

He's a rich athlete, so of course it's FL

of course......

[razorboy]

Holy fuck! Where the hell IS that thing? It sure doesn't look like Jersey or New York

It's on Davis Island in Tampa. My Sister's house is about 300 yards from it and he's none too popular with the neighbors right now. He built a hideous 30,000 square foot monstrosity on an absurdly inadequate parcel of land on a smallish island. It sticks out like a gaudy, poorly constructed thumb.

[Snacks]

EVERYONE want's to meet a legend!

He plays baseball and does nothing more. Hes no legend other then to retards that idolize sports teams! And trust me I met him hes not worth meeting he has a very bland and boring personality.

[sailor]

Jeter the big phony should just quietly take care if his college loan paid in full.

if he took care of it quietly, you wouldn't know.

[keithy_19]

It's on Davis Island in Tampa. My Sister's house is about 300 yards from it and he's none too popular with the neighbors right now. He built a hideous 30,000 square foot monstrosity on an absurdly inadequate parcel of land on a smallish island. It sticks out like a gaudy, poorly constructed thumb.

Jealous much?

[spoon]

It looks like a monster version of his house at greenwood lake.

[Sinestro]

So the dude has to pay a gift tax for all the stuff the Yankees gave him. Was it worth it man to take a pic and shake Jeters hand for $14,000? So much for the simplicity of that.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

During a rain delay a few weeks back on Ch 9 they had a side story of Jeters house and they called it St Jetersburg. Awful!!!!

[sailor]

During a rain delay a few weeks back on Ch 9 they had a side story of Jeters house and they called it St Jetersburg. Awful!!!!

As long as he doesn't call it that, why care?

[Earlshog]

Soul searching? If you think this MLB fanboy vs providing for ur middle class family is a topic that involves soul searching I miss the deep introspective angle you provide. To me that's WAY too over the top for such a discussion. If it involved this kid selling it and then giving every dime to charity then maybe, but this is just common sense to me, not a ethics based choice in any way. We're talking about a rich baseball team, player pressuring some goofy kid into making a very bad call.

Also, small factors like his loans may sway those with opinions built on foundations of sand but it really doesn't matter. The kid and fam paid for said seats and he caught the ball. He had a winning lottery ticket in his hand and tossed to his golden calf bc he hits balls in the summer. He had a chance to set up his family for a great start and he tossed it for a few sigs and seats that he'll pay taxes on now. Even if, a BIG IF, he gets something from sponsors and or his work via commercials, I think he made a stupid impulsive decision, the wrong one. Will we see the Jeter has an Edge and Christian has Focus ads and a replay of the kid taking pictures of Jeter just before he catches the ball? Or will Jeter do the right thing and step up and just cover his loans and say thanks? To me, he still tossed a couple hundred grand out the window to be some pseudo hero/uber fanboy.

Once again, I just don't get this "right thing to do" mentality thing so many like to add to the discussion. You're right in it's not always about money, sure. However it is always about my family and not making rash decisions. He didn't see it the same way obviously.

You are taking the ethical / morality driven angle while my point was coming from a place of integrity and self dignity. Selling to a charity, or Jeter being a dick, or front row tickets, or tuition are the sidebar not the meat and potatoes.

Is it possible he "he still tossed a couple hundred grand out the window to be some pseudo hero/uber fanboy" sure. It's also possible he was not going to let money dictate his decision. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, the fuck do I know.

As to my point on soul searching / being an interesting debate. This is a direct reflection of our sports culture and to a degree of Amercian society as a whole, of the Paris Hiltonification, of frivolous lawsuits, of sticking your hand in the next guys pocket, of each and every issue being polarized, I could go on and on. It's held a mirror up to us as sports fans, and our obsession with the bottom line. I've traveled quite a bit over the years with my prior job and it's not like this with sports fans in the rest of the world. I personally find it fascinating we have arrived at this point. Again is it for better or for worse, who am I to say? To not take all this and let it rattle around your brain a little bit is doing yourself a disservice.

[Earlshog]

I'd love for someone to actually explain to me how one's character is being tested here. I honestly try to comprehend it, and the only way it's adding up is if you imagine that "love of the game" is some intrinsic virtue. And at that point, my imagination just stops working, because surely no one can be that warped, can they?

Why is the baseball used before and and after his 3,000th hit worth $5 and the one that landed in this dudes hand worth half a million bucks?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Other countries are fanatic about their sports, they just do it in different ways, for example in Europe soccer is everything. Sometimes you will hear about people being trampled to death at a soccer match. In some other countries if you dont get a medal in the Olympics you have shamed your country. Of course we have our own dopes here who take sports way too seriously.

If I got the ball for the 3000th hit and sold it for high 6 figures, I would have no problem sleeping at night. I would do some good with that money like giving it to a charity, and put some into a college fund for my niece, the extra couple hundred thousand I can keep and put a nice dent in my mortgage. I wouldnt be able to retire, however that extra cash would make life much better

[JimBeam]

But Gehrig DIDN'T and that's the point. No Yankee has come close to doing it. And you think this hit isn't bigger than Biggio? Jeter took 4 LESS years to do this. He's the 4th youngest player to get to 3000.
By the time he's done he just might crack the top 10 all time.
And the baseball world pretty much makes Jeter one of, if not THE, poster child of MLB for more than just his hit and plays on the field.

Lastly, with the LONG fucking tradition the Yankees have, all those Hall of Famers, some of them the greatest players to ever play the game, to be able to do something none of them have at this level MAKES IT impressive.

So please, just stop.

That's just simply nonsense. He is not the poster child for anybody outside of Yankee fans and talking heads. It's this fantasy that Yankee fans have that the rest of the country, other than poser former NY refugees in others states, gives a shit about the guy.

Let's get one thing straight, the " fans " did not vote him into the All Star game. NY Yankee fans but forwarad an effort that got him into the game. I'd be surprised if more than 5% of his votes came from non-Yankee fans.

He is not a Ken Griffey type of player that fans of other teams love. They may respect him but they far from love him.

As far as taking fewer years than Biggio lets not forget that Biggio started out as a catcher and then changed positions.

I'm not saying what Biggio did was any better but what I am saying is it's the same thing ( although you could argue that having million dollar players in the lineup protecting you is advantageous ).

Incidentally several players in the 3000 hit club did it in many fewer at bats than Jeter.

And again the rest of MLB isn't as impressed with the history of the Yankees that you may think.

There isn't a seperate wing of the HOF that says " Here are the people who didn't break MLB records but did set the all time Yankee record. "

To an unbiased fan a record isn't any more impressive because it was done as a Yankee than if it was done by a Padre.

Don't mistake people's wanting to see the Yankees lose/fail as them being interested in them other than for just that reason.

[newport king]

He's a bag of shit. Not going to the allstar game? Whatever i know it doesn't mean anything but the fans voted you in. You're a .270 hitter at this point. Get your ass to the game and show some appreciation.

[newport king]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/582/194/giambi_display_image_display_image.jpg?1292959757

AND HE'S FUCKING SAFE!

and i can't find the clip but the infamous "dive" into the stands? yeah he caught that ball 10-15 ft on the field ran 6 steps and jumped in the crowd.

[Snoogans]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/582/194/giambi_display_image_display_image.jpg?1292959757

AND HE'S FUCKING SAFE!

and i can't find the clip but the infamous "dive" into the stands? yeah he caught that ball 10-15 ft on the field ran 6 steps and jumped in the crowd.

http://baseballevolution.com/images/jeter01.jpg

http://baseballevolution.com/images/jeter02.jpg

he is a good 12-15 feet from the wall with the ball in his glove

http://baseballevolution.com/images/jeter03a.jpg

http://baseballevolution.com/images/jeter03.jpg

http://baseballevolution.com/images/jeter04.jpg

http://baseballevolution.com/images/jeter05.jpg

SLIDE YOU DOPE. YOU HAD PLENTY OF SPACE

[A.J.]

He's a bag of shit. Not going to the allstar game? Whatever i know it doesn't mean anything but the fans voted you in. You're a .270 hitter at this point. Get your ass to the game and show some appreciation.

The New York Yankees' shortstop will not be attending because of "emotional and physical exhaustion" from his pursuit of 3,000 hits, according to a Foxsports.com report.

I remember all the other 3,000 hitters taking a day off for the same reasons after they got to the milestone.

[JimBeam]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/582/194/giambi_display_image_display_image.jpg?1292959757

AND HE'S FUCKING SAFE!

and i can't find the clip but the infamous "dive" into the stands? yeah he caught that ball 10-15 ft on the field ran 6 steps and jumped in the crowd.

If that jackoff slides maybe this whole thing goes a different way.

Also the " dive " play is easily one of the most overrated plays in the history of sports.

[Jujubees2]

The taxman cometh...

Christian Lopez, fan who handed over Derek Jeter's historic 3,000th-hit ball, will owe IRS thousands (http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/07/12/2011-07-12_christian_lopez_fan_who_handed_over_derek_jeter s_historic_3000thhit_ball_will_ow.html#ixzz1Ruay1p Nh)

[TripleSkeet]

I remember all the other 3,000 hitters taking a day off for the same reasons after they got to the milestone.

Its the All Star game. Its basically a day off anyway. You go to show appreciation for the fans, Mr. Yankee. Every move he makes shows him more and more deserving of that nickname.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Comparing Jeter to Gehrig is ridiculous. Gehrig destroys him in almost every category.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jeter basically won the lottery. He was in the right place at the right time. All these Jeterbots saying that they wouldnt have won 4 WS without him are crazy. In their last dynasty they had many key players like Tino Oneill Bernie, plus decent starting pitching and a great 'pen with Nelson and Stanton and of course Mo.

[Earlshog]

Jeter basically won the lottery. He was in the right place at the right time. All these Jeterbots saying that they wouldnt have won 4 WS without him are crazy. In their last dynasty they had many key players like Tino Oneill Bernie, plus decent starting pitching and a great 'pen with Nelson and Stanton and of course Mo.

He won 5

[Furtherman]

The taxman cometh...

Christian Lopez, fan who handed over Derek Jeter's historic 3,000th-hit ball, will owe IRS thousands (http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/07/12/2011-07-12_christian_lopez_fan_who_handed_over_derek_jeter s_historic_3000thhit_ball_will_ow.html#ixzz1Ruay1p Nh)

Nice catch. But those memories will last forever.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He won 5

None of them were on the '09 team.

[JimBeam]

None of them were on the '09 team.

The won that one with a $200+ million payroll.

[Snoogans]

None of them were on the '09 team.

im pretty sure that Mo guy you mentioned last was on that 09 team

[WRESTLINGFAN]

im pretty sure that Mo guy you mentioned last was on that 09 team

I think so too

[WRESTLINGFAN]

"The IRS has a job to do, so I'm not going to hold it against them, but it would be cool if they helped me out a little on this."

What a naive comment to make. He pisses away 6 figures and praises the IRS. Whoever made the comment about him kickinh himself in the ass is right on the money. In 5 years hes going to want to choke himself

[Snoogans]

btw im surprised i have yet to hear someone say the Yankees should pay his tax bill. In the press i mean

[Earlshog]

None of them were on the '09 team.


:ohmy:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

btw im surprised i have yet to hear someone say the Yankees should pay his tax bill. In the press i mean

If anyone should it should be Jeter he makes more than that per AB

[Earlshog]

im pretty sure that Mo guy you mentioned last was on that 09 team

:clap:

[JimBeam]

btw im surprised i have yet to hear someone say the Yankees should pay his tax bill. In the press i mean

I heard some guy on talk radio mention that this morning.

But then they debated about whether or not that would be an additional gift on which the kid could be taxed.

The way I see it the IRS doesn't care where the money comes from. By that I mean if they paid it for the kid, meaning not giving it to him to pay, it shouldn't be a problem. But they might have an issue if the money was given to the kid to then pay it.

Seems like as long as the " tax " on the prize was paid it shouldn't matter but who the hell knows.

[Earlshog]

The won that one with a $200+ million payroll.

LOL So I don't get do Yankee fans say they would have won the fifth without him?

[Snoogans]

I heard some guy on talk radio mention that this morning.

But then they debated about whether or not that would be an additional gift on which the kid could be taxed.

The way I see it the IRS doesn't care where the money comes from. By that I mean if they paid it for the kid, meaning not giving it to him to pay, it shouldn't be a problem. But they might have an issue if the money was given to the kid to then pay it.

Seems like as long as the " tax " on the prize was paid it shouldn't matter but who the hell knows.

yea but a cash gift would cover it. Say the tax bill is 15K. They throw him 30 grand cash. that will raise his tax bill to like 25
pays it and he still has 5 Gs

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Hypothetically speaking if Nomar was their SS from 96-01 they would have still won all those titles. Anyone who thinks that they wouldnt have been a dynasty w/o Jeter is wrong

[JimBeam]

Hypothetically speaking if Nomar was their SS from 96-01 they would have still won all those titles. Anyone who thinks that they wouldnt have been a dynasty w/o Jeter is wrong

No way man, they needed a leader.

Men in their 20's and 30's making millions needed a guy to be rah rah so that they could accomplish their goals.

Plus he never gets in trouble so that makes him great. Because we all know that 700+ other guys in the majors are all scumbags and only one can rise above the rest.

[Earlshog]

No way man, they needed a leader.

Men in their 20's and 30's making millions needed a guy to be rah rah so that they could accomplish their goals.

Plus he never gets in trouble so that makes him great. Because we all know that 700+ other guys in the majors are all scumbags and only one can rise above the rest.

Did Nomar bang Mariah Carey, Jessica Biel, Minka Kelly, Vanessa Minnillo, etc etc... I think not!!!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Did Nomar bang Mariah Carey, Jessica Biel, Minka Kelly, Vanessa Minnillo, etc etc... I think not!!!

If Jeter was playing for the Royals he wouldn't have gotten any of them

[Snoogans]

im pretty sure Nomar was a really good guy that teammates rallied around. How many other guys woulda been voted a full share of the WS money when he wasnt even on the team anymore?

[JimBeam]

I was being sarcastic about all the love Jeter gets for being a " good guy ".

Like the old Chris Rock bit about taking care of your kids.

That's what you're supposed to do and you don't get extra credit for it.

[Snoogans]

I was being sarcastic about all the love Jeter gets for being a " good guy ".

Like the old Chris Rock bit about taking care of your kids.

That's what you're supposed to do and you don't get extra credit for it.

i meant about someone sayin the yankees needed a leader and wouldnt have won with nomar

[TripleSkeet]

Nice catch. But those memories will last forever.

LMAO. Cant wait to see him try and pay his bills with those.

[Snacks]

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/582/194/giambi_display_image_display_image.jpg?1292959757

AND HE'S FUCKING SAFE!

and i can't find the clip but the infamous "dive" into the stands? yeah he caught that ball 10-15 ft on the field ran 6 steps and jumped in the crowd.

Everything he has done has been calculated. No one has benefited more from their homer fans, the media, hype, their surroundings and LUCK then Jeter.

Giambi was safe and everyone other then yankee fans know it. That home run against Balt was fan interference by that fat kid. Everyone knows it and if it happened anywhere else it would have been called it. That dive into the seats was for dramatics that he probably thought wouldnt hurt him but when he finally walked away he realized it was a bad move even though he got credit for it. Some people are blinded by their love of the pinstripes an some are blinded by their hate of them. The funny thing is I used to like the yanks but how can you root for a team that imho hurts the sport more then it helps. I think its great for a sport to have that 1 team everyone loves to hate because they are so good and have the biggest fan support. Lakers in basketball, Cowboys in Football, Yanks in Baseball etc. But the difference is the other sports have rules and salary caps and play on an equal playing field. They also dont have a commissioner who allows them to dictate or do as they please. And thats the difference between them all.

Spoon should love all that!:drunk:

[Snacks]

Its the All Star game. Its basically a day off anyway. You go to show appreciation for the fans, Mr. Yankee. Every move he makes shows him more and more deserving of that nickname.

please he didnt even go to Bob Shepards funeral. The guy is a fraud who has played these fans and gets away with it.

[Snacks]

Jeter basically won the lottery. He was in the right place at the right time. All these Jeterbots saying that they wouldnt have won 4 WS without him are crazy. In their last dynasty they had many key players like Tino Oneill Bernie, plus decent starting pitching and a great 'pen with Nelson and Stanton and of course Mo.

I have never agreed more with you then this. I have been saying this exact statement for years.

[Snacks]

If Jeter was playing for the Royals he wouldn't have gotten any of them

ding ding ding, jeter is an ugly looking guy. Arod would have been tearing it up because at least he has the looks to go with the talent. he just never learned how to play the media game.

[JimBeam]

There's still something suspect about Jeter and how he's managed to keep his personal life out of the news ( for the most part ).

I mean I know you can be discreet but we got pics of every other dipshit in the world in every type of situation.

The only times you see pics of him w/ women it always seems likea photo op.

I think we're gonna find out one day that he may be a SS on the other team.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I have never agreed more with you then this. I have been saying this exact statement for years.

Ive caught so much heat as a Yankee fan from other fans who worship everything Jeter does. Then again, they think Torre shouldnt have been canned after the '04 Collapse. Sad to say many Yankee fans are just ignorant. The Yankees can never do any wrong to them.

Another example I point out is Brian Cashman and all the awful signings/trades he did. He won the right place/time lottery too. Stick Michaels and Bob Watson were the ones in rebuilding the team. Cashman rode the coat tails

[WRESTLINGFAN]

please he didnt even go to Bob Shepards funeral. The guy is a fraud who has played these fans and gets away with it.

And he still uses Shepards voice when he comes up to bat. Thats such a weak move and shows no character

[JimBeam]

Ive caught so much heat as a Yankee fan from other fans who worship everything Jeter does. Then again, they think Torre shouldnt have been canned after the '04 Collapse. Sad to say many Yankee fans are just ignorant. The Yankees can never do any wrong to them.

Another example I point out is Brian Cashman and all the awful signings/trades he did. He won the right place/time lottery too. Stick Michaels and Bob Watson were the ones in rebuilding the team. Cashman rode the coat tails

I understand being loyal to your team but as somebody said earlier you don't have to follow blindly.

I also don't get how Torre was such a genius when he was fired from 3 other teams. Genius managers don't get fired 3 times ( from teams that went on to be good shortly after he left ). The whole " how he handles the media and the club " angle is horseshit. He let Jeter stay at SS when he should've moved him after getting Rodriguez. So in that case he let one players feelings dictate what the entire team would do. If he was so good at handling personalities, as it was alays claimed, then he would've been able to move the guy. It's easy to look great when somebody's giving you a roster of All Stars.

Same with Cashman. While I'm sure he does a lot of research in the end when you're spending other people's money you can't really be called a genius.

[Snacks]

And he still uses Shepards voice when he comes up to bat. Thats such a weak move and shows no character

I dont care that he didnt go to the funeral. The fact is he acts like Shepard was such a big part of his career and yankee life and uses that recording then he should have gone to the funeral. By doing all that and saying all that he just looks like he is doing all that and saying all that purely for p.r. and to add to his legacy. its all smoke and mirrors.

[JimBeam]

I will fairly say that Jeter does get a lot of heat from people, maybe sometimes for now real reason other than that he's constantly rammed down our throats.

It's telling when your peers considr you to be overrated.

It's not jealousy, as one of the NY papers suggested.

It's simply knowing who you play with and against and being able to tell the truth without having some beat writer cry about it.

[Earlshog]

There's still something suspect about Jeter and how he's managed to keep his personal life out of the news ( for the most part ).

I mean I know you can be discreet but we got pics of every other dipshit in the world in every type of situation.

The only times you see pics of him w/ women it always seems likea photo op.

I think we're gonna find out one day that he may be a SS on the other team.

I am friends with a girl (she is smoking hot) who banged him in 2000.

[Jujubees2]

There's still something suspect about Jeter and how he's managed to keep his personal life out of the news ( for the most part ).

I mean I know you can be discreet but we got pics of every other dipshit in the world in every type of situation.

The only times you see pics of him w/ women it always seems likea photo op.

I think we're gonna find out one day that he may be a SS on the other team.

Wasn't there something a couple of years ago about two women who came out of Jeter's place (I think it was in Florida) who got into a fight with an attendant about paying for parking?

[JimBeam]

John Travolta banged Kelly Preston so maybe Jeter's a switch hitter.

[Snacks]

Heres another reason why Jeter makes me sick and why hes not that great of a guy but a media, mlb and yankee creation. This is also proof how dumb and sheep like yankee fans are.

Steiner sport and Jeter have a contract to make money off you idiots and a lot of money. I dont begrudge a guy making money but he has made so much off his fans and steiner continues to rob yankee fans for every dime. When is enough enough?

First if you go to steiners site you cant even look around without those assholes know your email address so they can solicit sales from you everyday with emails. Fuck them I gave them a 10 min mail email address.

Here is what they are selling

Autographed 3000 hit photo 8x10. $750

Replica of the bat he used to get hit #3000 autographed $1000

Dirt from the game but not autographed for $180

Game worn game worn DJ jersey but from a random game. $15,000

ASSHOLES buy this shit and are the same assholes who dont want to pay higher taxes or help less fortunate. But hey lets buy a fake bat that I can let collect dust for $1000.

[Snacks]

On a side note. Does anyone else find it funny or feminine when you see a grown man wearing a Derek Jeter #2 jersey? For some reason men cant wear that jersey because it seems like women have ruined it. Little kids, little girls and women with pink jerseys should be the only ones wearing a #2 Jeter jersey. If you wear a #2 jersey you arent a man. For some reason I have thought that for years now and I know many guys including yankee fans who love Jeter who also feel this way!

[Furtherman]

On a side note. Does anyone else find it funny or feminine when you see a grown man wearing ANY jersey?


Fixed.

[Snacks]

here is a little surprise I never seen before

http://i.imgur.com/CCYwZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/64X4z.jpg

[JimBeam]

I think they talked about that on Boomer & Carton this morning.

[disneyspy]

wasnt that an old sports illustrated on the young guns?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

On a side note. Does anyone else find it funny or feminine when you see a grown man wearing a Derek Jeter #2 jersey? For some reason men cant wear that jersey because it seems like women have ruined it. Little kids, little girls and women with pink jerseys should be the only ones wearing a #2 Jeter jersey. If you wear a #2 jersey you arent a man. For some reason I have thought that for years now and I know many guys including yankee fans who love Jeter who also feel this way!

Im a Yankee fan who thinks Jeter is overrated. No man should be wearing a #2 Jersey.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Heres another reason why Jeter makes me sick and why hes not that great of a guy but a media, mlb and yankee creation. This is also proof how dumb and sheep like yankee fans are.

Steiner sport and Jeter have a contract to make money off you idiots and a lot of money. I dont begrudge a guy making money but he has made so much off his fans and steiner continues to rob yankee fans for every dime. When is enough enough?

First if you go to steiners site you cant even look around without those assholes know your email address so they can solicit sales from you everyday with emails. Fuck them I gave them a 10 min mail email address.

Here is what they are selling

Autographed 3000 hit photo 8x10. $750

Replica of the bat he used to get hit #3000 autographed $1000

Dirt from the game but not autographed for $180

Game worn game worn DJ jersey but from a random game. $15,000

ASSHOLES buy this shit and are the same assholes who dont want to pay higher taxes or help less fortunate. But hey lets buy a fake bat that I can let collect dust for $1000.

They always gotta throw in the dirt.


I remember them selling freezed dried grass from the old stadium that was going for over $100

[Dirtbag]

I know these scumbags will try to sell anything, but are people really buying it?

[StanUpshaw]

Why is the baseball used before and and after his 3,000th hit worth $5 and the one that landed in this dudes hand worth half a million bucks?

Tell me about it. That's why I wrote this three days ago:

This guy could have really earned my respect if he

1. Decided against cashing in on the ball
2. Decided against giving it back and feeding into the ridiculous, infantile (and more than a little gay) athlete worship culture
3. Instead, threw the ball into a wood chipper in protest of the simple-minded notion that 3000 means a goddamn thing just because it's a big round number. Reject the primitive impulse to assign special meaning to an arbitrary milestone. Baseball numerology is no better than biblical numerology, and we're all being a bunch of little Harold Campings right now.

[Snacks]

Im so tired hearing this statement every time Jeter does something wrong.

"Jeter has been the 1 guy that has ALWAYS done the right thing, but in this case hes wrong"


That or some variation has been said so many times through out his career yet to say that means he is doing something wrong or not the right thing. They are saying it again this time with no playing in the all star game or at least showing up for it. They said it last weekend when he didnt give that guy money or offer to pay the taxes for the ball. They said it when he didnt show up for the old timer games, they said it when he didnt go to Bob Shepards funeral. They have said it so many times and act like every time he does something that is wrong or not classy is the 1st time. Its the reason so many really dont like him. I have never liked Jeter because I always thought he got the benefit of the doubt with everything. I think he was lucky for being drafted when and by who. I think he gets credit for things he has nothing to do with. I think hs overrated and most important he never gets the same shit that other players get. Maybe if the media would stop bothering other players and getting in their business it wouldnt bother me, but the fact that the media makes him out to be a god while always trying to knock other guys has always pissed me off and honestly makes me like the other guys better even if they arent "as good of a guy" as Jeter supposedly is!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

From '08


Derek Jeter Clap 5X. Over rated Clap 5X


http://articles.nydailynews.com/2008-06-19/sports/17899934_1_major-league-baseball-survey-world-series-mvp

[TripleSkeet]

Heres another reason why Jeter makes me sick and why hes not that great of a guy but a media, mlb and yankee creation. This is also proof how dumb and sheep like yankee fans are.

Steiner sport and Jeter have a contract to make money off you idiots and a lot of money. I dont begrudge a guy making money but he has made so much off his fans and steiner continues to rob yankee fans for every dime. When is enough enough?

First if you go to steiners site you cant even look around without those assholes know your email address so they can solicit sales from you everyday with emails. Fuck them I gave them a 10 min mail email address.

Here is what they are selling

Autographed 3000 hit photo 8x10. $750

Replica of the bat he used to get hit #3000 autographed $1000

Dirt from the game but not autographed for $180

Game worn game worn DJ jersey but from a random game. $15,000

ASSHOLES buy this shit and are the same assholes who dont want to pay higher taxes or help less fortunate. But hey lets buy a fake bat that I can let collect dust for $1000.

This made me crack up. NOT AUTOGRAPHED. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Snacks]

From '08


Derek Jeter Clap 5X. Over rated Clap 5X


http://articles.nydailynews.com/2008-06-19/sports/17899934_1_major-league-baseball-survey-world-series-mvp

He has been voted by his own peers most overrated player 3 or 4 years straight. and has been on the list in the top most overrated for years!

[Snacks]

This made me crack up. NOT AUTOGRAPHED. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I added that just to be cute because it was the only thing that was semi low priced but the only reason is because he didnt autograph it! lol Im sure if you could have signed a piece of paper and glued it to the dirt and charged more they would have.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Snacks, who doesn't like Jeter or the Yankees, has 24 posts in this thread. 24. The epitome of a person who posts just to hear himself.

[Snacks]

Snacks, who doesn't like Jeter or the Yankees, has 24 posts in this thread. 24. The epitome of a person who posts just to hear himself.

You post and no one likes you here so why do you even bother coming to the board? No one is more hated or has had more fights on this board then you. I dont like Jeter and as many others in this thread are doing we are talking about our non like of him. Too bad if your idol is getting shitted on a little. Maybe you can go listen to another talk radio show and cuddle with you DJ3K life size doll.

Someone who has almost 27,000 posts is telling someone who has almost 5000 that they like to hear themselves talk! Thats comical!

Make that 25 posts and counting!

On a side note, what loser counts someone elses # of posts in a thread? Seriously, find something to do other then talk radio, yankee baseball and message boards! You have a family now!

[Tenbatsuzen]

You post and no one likes you here so why do you even bother coming to the board? No one is more hated or has had more fights on this board then you. I dont like Jeter and as many others in this thread are doing we are talking about our non like of him. Too bad if your idol is getting shitted on a little. Maybe you can go listen to another talk radio show and cuddle with you DJ3K life size doll.


It sounds like you're just trolling as much as you possibly can. I mean, how many google searches, fact checking, etc. have you tried to do to talk about how much you hate Jeter? Do you think all of this work you've done would change anyone's minds about it?

And what is it with you and bashing talk radio? And where did this "10 hour" fact come from? You're the one who's spouting what B&C said verbatim at least 2-3 times in this thread already.


On a side note, what loser counts someone elses # of posts in a thread? Seriously, find something to do other then talk radio, yankee baseball and message boards! You have a family now!

First, I didn't count. You see, you can click twice and find out how many posts people made in a certain thread.

Second, It's almost 10:45 at night. Would you like me to go grab my kid out of her crib and take her to the park? How dumb ARE you?

[Snacks]

It sounds like you're just trolling as much as you possibly can. I mean, how many google searches, fact checking, etc. have you tried to do to talk about how much you hate Jeter? Do you think all of this work you've done would change anyone's minds about it?

And what is it with you and bashing talk radio? And where did this "10 hour" fact come from? You're the one who's spouting what B&C said verbatim at least 2-3 times in this thread already.



First, I didn't count. You see, you can click twice and find out how many posts people made in a certain thread.

Second, It's almost 10:45 at night. Would you like me to go grab my kid out of her crib and take her to the park? How dumb ARE you?

you mentioned on many occasions your listening schedule that seems to start from morning til night of non stop talk radio. so blame yourself. I havent had to fact check anything, everything has recently been talked about on espn or here. As for talk radio, I hate it. I know this is a talk radio personalities message board but I didnt come to this board because I listen to it I came here because I became friendly in the real world with members at poker events because my cousin was on this board and invited many of them to his poker games. I have stayed around because of all the other discussions and other things that gets brought up. As for Boomer and Carton I dont listen to them either. For the past 6 months or so I have recorded their show on MSG and watch about 30 min of it to listen to them about certain issues in the NBA, MLB and the NFL but fast forward it all and only stop when something interest me and like I said it take me about 30 min to watch their 4 hour program.

If the kid is sleeping, spend time with the wife. I think your 27k posts should keep you caught up for the next few years!


Hope that helps you in life.

[TripleSkeet]

This is getting gay.

[Tenbatsuzen]

you mentioned on many occasions your listening schedule that seems to start from morning til night of non stop talk radio. so blame yourself.

Um... where? If you haven't seen, this is a website that revolves around O&A and R&F. I hardly listen to O&A anymore, I probably put in an hour or 2 of R&F, maybe an hour of boomer and carton. The majority of talk-show listening I do is trying to sleep. Any posts I made about radio-listening was probably at my old job, when I was sitting at a desk all day. My new position doesn't have that same requirement.


If the kid is sleeping, spend time with the wife. I think your 27k posts should keep you caught up for the next few years!



My wife gets up for her job at 6am. She's asleep too. Why the fuck are you doling out relationship advice like you know how my relationships work or if they are troubled?

[Dude!]

the two oddest personalities
on rf.net in a cat-fight

awesome

[brettmojo]

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[brettmojo]

Selig's response to the criticism... (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6761243/new-york-yankees-derek-jeter-skips-all-star-festivities-creates-stir)

"Let's put the Derek Jeter question to bed: There isn't a player that I'm more proud of in the last 15 years than Derek Jeter," Selig said. "He has played the game like it should be played. He's even been a better human being off the field as great as he is on the field. So any concerns that I keep hearing about Derek Jeter, I know why Derek Jeter isn't here. I respect that. And I must tell you I think I would have made the same decision that Derek Jeter did.
"Derek Jeter has brought to this sport great pride. He's become a role model. Earned it. Still earning it. And so any suggestion that I, or anybody else, is unhappy with him about not being here is just false."

[spoon]

Selig's response to the criticism... (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6761243/new-york-yankees-derek-jeter-skips-all-star-festivities-creates-stir)

Well that pretty much sums it up, Jeter MUST be an asshole. Bc if Selig knows anything, it's how to be wrong. Put him in the poll!

[spoon]

Snacks, who doesn't like Jeter or the Yankees, has 24 posts in this thread. 24. The epitome of a person who posts just to hear himself.

Yet plenty of people here are easily involved in a conversation with him revolving on the player in the fucking title of the thread. Fuck Tenbat's, talk about fitting your own accusations to a T. So get back on topic and telling everyone where they are wrong if it ever goes against your point of view until you find out the other side has 100k in college loans and you do an about face.

[A.J.]

Selig's response to the criticism... (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6761243/new-york-yankees-derek-jeter-skips-all-star-festivities-creates-stir)

Did he say the pro and anti Jeter comments ended in a tie?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yet plenty of people here are easily involved in a conversation with him revolving on the player in the fucking title of the thread. Fuck Tenbat's, talk about fitting your own accusations to a T. So get back on topic and telling everyone where they are wrong if it ever goes against your point of view until you find out the other side has 100k in college loans and you do an about face.

Show me where I said someone was wrong for saying this guy was an idiot for not selling the ball. I didn't disagree with people, I just presented my own opinion. It's a very polarizing subject.

If anything, the pro-selling people were the ones who were railing against the pro-returning crowd.

[brettmojo]

Show me where I said someone was wrong for saying this guy was an idiot for not selling the ball. I didn't disagree with people, I just presented my own opinion. It's a very polarizing subject.

If anything, the pro-selling people were the ones who were railing against the pro-returning crowd.
Yeah apparently if you do not believe money is the end all be all of human existence you're a fucking dipshit.

[Gutter]

Yeah apparently if you do not believe money is the end all be all of human existence you're a fucking dipshit.

best. point. ever.

[TripleSkeet]

Yeah apparently if you do not believe money is the end all be all of human existence you're a fucking dipshit.

Putting some petty childhood dream meeting over setting yourself up to have a much easier life will always make you a dipshit in my book. Like I said, if the guy was already rich it would be different. Hes not only not rich hes in debt up to his eyebrows.

[TripleSkeet]

"Let's put the Derek Jeter question to bed: There isn't a player that I'm more proud of in the last 15 years than Derek Jeter," Selig said. "He has played the game like it should be played. He's even been a better human being off the field as great as he is on the field. So any concerns that I keep hearing about Derek Jeter, I know why Derek Jeter isn't here. I respect that. And I must tell you I think I would have made the same decision that Derek Jeter did.
"Derek Jeter has brought to this sport great pride. He's become a role model. Earned it. Still earning it. And so any suggestion that I, or anybody else, is unhappy with him about not being here is just false."

There ya go. PROOF that he made the wrong decision.

[A.J.]

So basically Jeter locked up and pulled a Fez.

[JimBeam]

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Where's that from ?

I didn't see any upmires until the thing was almost over.

Secondly #6 on the red team is a botich. First he's slapping at a guy that's engaged with another player and then he mans up and limp wrist punches the same guy still being engaged.

[JimBeam]

Let's put the Derek Jeter question to bed: There isn't a player that I'm more proud of in the last 15 years than Derek Jeter, ...

That's some balls on him saying that. I wish other players would call him on that.

And so any suggestion that I, or anybody else, is unhappy with him about not being here is just false.

Yet there were several people who openly stated that they didn't like the decision.

Does he think he and his wrinkled suit from 1987 overshadows the actual thoughts and words of others ?

I never really hated Selig before, in fact I for the most point ignored him, but now I despise him.