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realmenhatelife
05-30-2011, 07:12 PM
Meta, I know.

Has anyone else noticed that anytime you get two famous people in a room and bring up twitter they start bitching about how they now have to deal with internet criticism? Do you suppose sport complaining predates the internet? Is it fair for celebrities to have the same reactions as anyone else (getting pissed) or should they play by different rules because they are so dramatically compensated for their station? Are you one of these people who twitters obnoxious shit at famous people?

It's certainly a rampant 202 topic, I've heard it on both regular shows, smodcast and just this weekend on Joe Rogan. I've never tried to voice my displeasure or demonstrate snark to a famous person. The closest I've ever gotten was once I ordered a Steve Corino key chain, and it took forever to come even though it shipped from 10 minutes away from my house, and it was a normal plastic key fob that said "Steve Corino" on it in gold letters that rubbed off. I emailed them and they didn't get my sarcasm, because in a way it was perfect for him, but I dont think it was intentional.

Anyway, I think once you attain a certain level you lose the right to confront 'regular' people as peers. Celebrities live their lives as performance in a way (blame the media, not fucking twitter, which you choose to use for free promotion anyway therefore making it part of your public, critisizable persona) and any performance is open to baseless and ignorant criticism. Addressing critics should be beneath the artist, and it always looks completely undignified. At the end of the day you are fighting with a guy who is most likely a little resentful and you can't look superior crowing about how inferior someone else is. We're not in grade school anymore, if you dont answer an argument it doesn't automatically mean you've lost it.

That is to say I am disturbed by the totally misdirected idea that judgment is A: helpful B: welcome and C: deserving of an audience. Everything I see involving the media just seems to be about judgment, every youtube video and every story is put out there so people can be watched judging other people. It's stupid but more forgivable in its' benign nature when normal people do it, but there is now an entertainment culture of judgment where we're supposed to admire the skillful and creative way in which people are judged.

underdog
05-30-2011, 07:28 PM
Twitter has made me realize that almost all celebrities are needy douchebags.

hanso
05-30-2011, 07:32 PM
There is a part in Sterns movie Private Parts.

Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for – are you ready for this? – an hour and twenty minutes.

Pig Vomit: How could this be?

Researcher: Answer most commonly given: “I want to see what he’ll say next.”

Pig Vomit: All right, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?

Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.

Pig Vomit: But… if they hate him, why do they listen?

Researcher: Most common answer: “I want to see what he’ll say next.”

This was back in 1997. And unfortunately holds true today.

hanso
05-30-2011, 08:04 PM
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keithy_19
05-30-2011, 09:44 PM
Being a pretty famous person, I don't take things people say to heart. I remember when I was like them. Full of angst and anger. They just wish they were me and they show this through anger and snide remarks. I take it as a compliment now. :bye:

TripleSkeet
05-30-2011, 09:49 PM
What the fuck were you doing ordering a Steve Corino keychain????

Chigworthy
05-30-2011, 11:52 PM
Another topic that has been beaten into the ground is the anonymity-fueled internet toughguy phenomenon, which I think is the real culprit. But it does further illustrate the douchey vanity of celebrities, in that they apparently think that they are the sole recipients of anonymous buggery.

realmenhatelife
05-31-2011, 03:47 AM
What the fuck were you doing ordering a Steve Corino keychain????

I loved the "Mr Old School" gimmick back when I was really into ECW, which may explain why I think Sam is so funny. I really thought it would be an actual key chain that was unique to steve corino, not a key chain that happened to say steve corino the old school hero rather than say, Facenda-Whittaker Bowling Lanes.

Another topic that has been beaten into the ground is the anonymity-fueled internet toughguy phenomenon, which I think is the real culprit. But it does further illustrate the douchey vanity of celebrities, in that they apparently think that they are the sole recipients of anonymous buggery.

But why does having an audience change the reaction to the anonymous tough guy/dickhead? There's nothing new about someone talking shit when they know there will be no consequences. Isn't that a staple of all talk/sports radio?


Something I've picked up which is seriously interesting to me (mainly from commedians on O&A) is the idea that they know how to do this and the common man doesn't have the skill or the right to. Either busting someones balls or making fun of a news story. It's different when the commedian does it because the commedian is funny. I call bullshit on that because funny is subjective, you cant make it a criteria for membership. And social networks are not designed for famous people to have one more forum, if only famous people used them they would fail.

I think celebrities and media are very much doing their part to set a bad example for how to act with social media.