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TjM
04-15-2011, 08:57 AM
Per Rajah

- We've posted a few news items about this in the past week but this story is really being talked about behind the scenes in TNA - so it deserves a closer look. Spike TV and TNA Wretling officials have had extensive talks in recent weeks about bringing sweeping changes to TNA. When we major changes - we're talking everything - from the company name to the talent roster to the company's entire identity.

Some have suggested that Dixie Carter's mother Janice has stepped in and finally put her foot down regarding TNA's lack of growth or direction. TNA has been spending millions and millions of dollars in recent years establishing the company as a "WWE lite" sports entertainment company. They've signed Hulk Hogan, Ric Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy, Mr. Anderson and plenty more WWE castoffs with little-to-no return on their money.It's been suggested that TNA drastically cut its budget, release most of the expensive top-tier talent and run a promotion that focuses on younger, smaller performers - which would finally give the company an identity that's completely different from WWE.

TNA changing its name has been suggested for years, but Dixie Carter has always been against it because they have spent so many years and so much money getting the TNA name out there. There has been talk about a new ad campaign that would put a heavy emphasis on the word "impact" .. Impact Wrestling Federation, anyone?



I think Impact Championship Wrestling would be a better name than IWF

Chimee
04-15-2011, 09:02 AM
I'll believe it when they've lost their network home and are back to having AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels in front of 20 people in Nashville.

foodcourtdruide
04-15-2011, 10:51 AM
I'll believe it when they've lost their network home and are back to having AJ Styles vs Christopher Daniels in front of 20 people in Nashville.

That actually sounds awesome. The article TjM posted really nailed what TNA is. It's "WWE Lite". There's a huge lack of creativity. I don't understand why someone who watches TNA wouldn't just watch WWE, which is virtually the same thing on a larger scale.

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Chigworthy
04-15-2011, 11:23 AM
Major Changes sounds cool; I hope he teams up with Sgt. Slaughter.

foodcourtdruide
04-15-2011, 11:29 AM
Major Changes sounds cool; I hope he teams up with Sgt. Slaughter.

lol, thanks for making me laugh at a corny joke :P

TripleSkeet
04-15-2011, 11:30 AM
Per Rajah



I think Impact Championship Wrestling would be a better name than IWF

If they want to be different then the WWE go back to putting the emphasis on wrestling. Especially now that the WWE wants nothing to do with the word.

foodcourtdruide
04-15-2011, 11:32 AM
If they want to be different then the WWE go back to putting the emphasis on wrestling. Especially now that the WWE wants nothing to do with the word.

I think they sorta did (at least more so than WWE). I think a better description of TNA would be "WWF Attitude Era-Lite".

CYYYFYYY
04-15-2011, 09:41 PM
This sounds like a good thing I just hope they don't go back to the six sided rings

Bob Impact
04-17-2011, 03:09 AM
I think they sorta did (at least more so than WWE). I think a better description of TNA would be "WWF Attitude Era-Lite".

Wouldn't that be "WWE Attitude Era with absolutely none of the stuff that made that era good but all of the stuff that made it bad?"

StanUpshaw
04-17-2011, 06:32 AM
I'm pretty sure "Impact Wrestling Federation" was a contribution of the author, not Panda's idea...but if not, it doesn't bode well for any "think different" campaign if you can't even evolve from the "we're a wrestling organization so we have to be known by 3 letters" paradigm of the last 70+ years. It's a pretty minor thing, but if they can't figure out something that simple, I have no confidence that they have the kind of vision to change the things that really matter.


[Side note: I've always heard about Panda Energy...but for some reason I thought they made energy drinks. I have no idea where I got that. But no, it's actually real energy. Huh.]

conman823
04-17-2011, 10:07 AM
I would tune back in the minute Hogan and Bischoff were canned.

What about a merger with ROH?

StanUpshaw
04-17-2011, 10:16 AM
I would tune back in the minute Hogan and Bischoff were canned.

What about a merger with ROH?

Their deal with HDNet just expired, so it would make a ton of sense for everyone.


And if Russo isn't the first one fired (literally burned alive), then they're fucking doomed.

Chimee
04-17-2011, 11:06 AM
If they bought ROH, dumped all the TNA staff, consolidated the best parts of the rosters and let the ROH people run the wrestling aspects, I'd happily watch every week, but that will never happen.

TNA is getting to that WCW point where they're bringing in people with the hope that they'll change everything and nothing comes of it and they end up right back where they started. Difference will end up being that Vince would have enough interest to buy TNA so they'll just cease to be one day and ROH will get a nice little bump to their roster and maybe Sting will sign a WWE Legend contract.

Chigworthy
04-18-2011, 05:23 PM
lol, thanks for making me laugh at a corny joke :P

Thank you for saying what had to be said.

Apparently it's still real to everyone else here, dammit.

Melk
04-18-2011, 06:46 PM
If they bought ROH, dumped all the TNA staff, consolidated the best parts of the rosters and let the ROH people run the wrestling aspects, I'd happily watch every week, but that will never happen.
Better yet, have the ROH guys come for Hogan's last appearance and beat the crap out of him and frame the new TNA in combatting the ROH guys until things slide into a single product.

StanUpshaw
04-18-2011, 06:57 PM
Nothing says fresh & innovative like an invasion angle. :thumbup:

Melk
04-19-2011, 05:23 AM
Yeah, but Invasion angles work if done right

Bob Impact
04-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Yeah, but Invasion angles work if done right

Please cite 3 examples.

StanUpshaw
04-19-2011, 01:33 PM
Did anyone watch Lockdown, btw?

It was something to behold.

TripleSkeet
04-19-2011, 01:56 PM
Please cite 3 examples.

nWo
ECW invasion of Raw
WWE invades ECW

Melk
04-19-2011, 05:40 PM
nWo
ECW invasion of Raw
WWE invades ECW
I was going to go with these:
The nWo (WWF Wrestlers appear to be invading the WCW)
Terry Taylor steals the NWA TV Title from Nikita Kollof (UWF appears to be invading the NWA during merger)
The initial WCW Invasion of the WWE (If they were able to get people like Sting or Ric Flair involved in the invasion angle and gave a shit, it would have worked.)

The problem with two out of the three angles is that the booking committees had no solid end game for the invasions. The WCW had no idea how to end the nWo thing and the WWE hadn't a clue how to book a successful invasion angle.

My suggestion is simple:
Have the their projected top guys combine forces and dismantle Hogan, Sting, Flair, and to a lesser extent, Jarrett, Angle, etc in a single night. If any of those three plan to return, great, if they don't, great. The idea is to put the young guys over big and cut loses. If they do an ROH merger (not likely) they let the ROH guys (especially, ex-TNA guys) tear the veteran guys apart. Then the angle is about the ROH guys being the elite and the TNA guys being the bums (for putting up with the veterans for so long). Eventually, some of the TNA guys get their heat back over the ROH guys and eventually, you have a roster of stars instead of sidekicks.

The problem with TNA is that their best stars (AJ Styles and Samoa Joe) are only there to give the rub to the (assumed) better guys. They are Tugboat to Hulk Hogan. They should be more like Sting to Ric Flair or, at worst, Arn Anderson to Ric Flair. Instead they are the first man pinned in the 1990 Survivor Series when they should be the last man standing in the 1997 Royal Rumble.

TripleSkeet
04-19-2011, 07:42 PM
I think the nWo angle had a perfect way to end, but they completely blew it. It was a year long angle that shouldve ended with Hogan tapping to the Scorpion Deathlock in the middle of the ring. Instead they had to get Bret Hart involved, twist around the finish, have the executive committee come back and give Hogan back the belt, etc. It was a complete clusterfuck. But overall as an Invasion angle it cant be argued it was a success.

As far as the ECW invasion of Raw, it was good because it was short lived, highlighted ECW, and gave the fans something that they werent used to seeing and made it fun.

And the whole Jerry Lawler invades ECW wasnt really even an invasion, but it was cool to see him and Jim Cornette at ECW arena. I NEVER thought Id see that, and that made it great.

The WCW Invasion had so much potential. It really is a shame it worked out how it did. From a business standpoint I completely understand it, but as a fan I know what I wouldve done had I been Vince.

1. I wouldve signed all the undercard talents to the buyouts they had gotten, just had Vince did.

2. Paid Sting, Flair, Goldberg, Steiner and the nWo out completely under the agreement that they immediately sign contracts with the WWE. (For Sting I wouldve even signed Luger)

3. Had a TRUE Invasion of WCW's biggest stars. Those above along with Booker T, DDP, Bagwell, and the other WCW younger workers. Have a run in Nexus style during some kind of match involving The Rock, Stone Cold, Kurt Angle and The Undertaker. Just a brutal beatdown and make no question that WCW is the heel faction. Flair, Nash and Hogan couldve been the mouthpieces, as out of that crew they were the only 3 with any mic skills at that point.

4. Even split the factions and do the ECW faction with Dreamer, RVD and the old ECW originals from both sides being led by Paul E. (NOT STEPH, they couldve had her join Shane as the co-owners of WCW)

As expensive as this wouldve been I can only imagine all the possible matchups they couldve put together on PPV's. Ending with a total dream PPV at Wrestlemania 18. Meh, a marks dream.

I dont have a problem with them but I really dont think ROH has enough exposure right now for an Invasion to actually make sense. I dont think enough people know what ROH is to actually care.

Bob Impact
04-19-2011, 11:49 PM
ECW invading Raw, WWE invading ECW and UWF invading NWA don't count to me. One night is not an invasion angle, it's a theme for an evening.

TripleSkeet
04-20-2011, 07:51 AM
ECW invading Raw, WWE invading ECW and UWF invading NWA don't count to me. One night is not an invasion angle, it's a theme for an evening.

ECW invading Raw actually went more then one night.

cougarjake13
06-25-2011, 03:16 PM
been 2 months


and no major changes yet

Fallon
06-25-2011, 09:15 PM
been 2 months


and no major changes yet

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Good point