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Furtherman
04-11-2011, 09:41 AM
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Anyone watch this on AMC? Sunday nights at 10pm.


I saw the first two episodes and I'm hooked - dark and creepy, with excellent characters so far. A great mystery shown from multiple viewpoints. Someone kills a 18 year old high school girl and it's anyone's guess who did it - as of now. The scenes with the family are heartbreaking and Michelle Forbes is excellent as the mother. The cops are all interesting characters too. Looks like to be a good show.

ihaveabadmonkey
04-11-2011, 09:56 AM
I've been watching and also hooked. The scene last night with the mother in the bathtub was so creepy good.

CountryBob
04-11-2011, 10:48 AM
Just yesterday someone was talking about this show - I DVR'd it last night but need to catch up on the first couple

yojimbo7248
04-11-2011, 10:55 AM
I love it. Makes me very homesick for Seattle. Captures the feeling of the city very well.

instrument
04-11-2011, 12:00 PM
Can't wait to find out who killed laura palmer and wrote sloth on the wall in that basement.

Chigworthy
04-11-2011, 05:57 PM
Starvin. We got any garmonbozia back there?

CountryBob
04-20-2011, 06:22 AM
The show is pushing the idea that the younger candidate for mayor is somehow tied to the girls killing. Anyone else think that this is gonna be a false trail?

Furtherman
04-20-2011, 06:36 AM
The show is pushing the idea that the younger candidate for mayor is somehow tied to the girls killing. Anyone else think that this is gonna be a false trail?

Most likely... but I wouldn't put it past someone who works for him. Maybe his girlfriend?

Although Rosie's teacher popping up as kinda involved was a bit of a surprise.


And the backstory of Rosie's father? Mob muscle maybe? Where will that come into play. I was surprised he took the money from his former... boss or whatever he was.



Damn I love this show.

ihaveabadmonkey
04-20-2011, 07:05 AM
After the first episode I thought it was going to be the teacher, but now i am doubting it. I don't think they would make the killer known this early in the season and that looks like the angle they will be working on Sunday.

spoon
04-20-2011, 04:39 PM
I've been aiming my sites on the politician's aid/gf since ep one and she still seems shady at best. Then again, too easy?

StanUpshaw
04-20-2011, 06:56 PM
They should call this show "The Red Herring"

Furtherman
05-02-2011, 07:31 AM
The show ended with some good dension last night. We're starting to see what kind of man Stan was years ago, and it's scary.

Bennett doesn't seem like too much of a suspect now... he's hiding something for sure, but I think his wife is in on that too.

Furtherman
05-09-2011, 12:04 PM
If you didn't see, then come back then you have.











So we see that Stan isn't the killer he use to be. A good look into who he is, which led to the other half - Mitch. So she's the one we have to worry about now!

Looks like the teacher will be innocent, but caught up in whatever happened that night at his place - which is still unclear - and will probably end up getting hurt I'm guessing.

Linden's personal life is starting to drag, but I get they will have that throughout the season, or she's just going to stay in Seattle permanently.

Last week's episode still had some unanswered questions. When the Larson's were having the wake, a couple walked in and didn't acknowledge Mitch's sister, and then she spent the rest of the episode drinking bottles of wine (although seemed fine in this episode in which not much time has passed). What was that all about?

Holder has quickly become my favorite character. He does the creepy cop thing good.

Good ending last night too - what was in the mosque?

Chimee
05-09-2011, 12:25 PM
Muslims.

CountryBob
05-17-2011, 11:05 AM
Who in the hell is the killer? In one way I like how the show makes almost everyone seem to be a suspect (including cops).

Is it just me or has the lead chick wore the same sweater everyday (10 days) in this series so far?

ihaveabadmonkey
05-17-2011, 11:58 AM
I'm starting to think it may be Stan's worker in the moving business. I think the teacher is going off into the terrorism angle.

Furtherman
05-23-2011, 06:44 AM
I'm starting to think it may be Stan's worker in the moving business. I think the teacher is going off into the terrorism angle.

Well, what a f'n great turn of events last night!!


Any terrorism angle squashed... but now that poor bastard might be dead.

And yea, there is something up with Stan's moving guy. WTF was he doing when Stan was beating on the teacher? Punching a rock over and over? That guy is disturbed.

I think the case is going to focus back on the mayoral campaign...

I'm picking Gwen, Richardson's manager/girlfriend, as a prime suspect.

ihaveabadmonkey
05-23-2011, 07:25 AM
Wouldn't it be great if it was just some random killing and nothing to do with any of the characters as of now, just some homeless guy on the side of the road.

StanUpshaw
05-23-2011, 08:42 AM
Well, what a f'n great turn of events last night!!

....

I'm picking Gwen, Richardson's manager/girlfriend, as a prime suspect.


These two statements are incompatible.

Snacks
05-23-2011, 10:21 AM
They need to pick it up from here.

I felt so sorry for the family and thought the show was doing a great job of showing what happens to a family when something this tragic happens. But the wife Mitch really pisses me off. I have no more sympathy for her. I understand her pain but to force her husband to go back to that lifestyle that he said he never wanted to go back to and what happened last night. I hope when her husband gets thrown in jail they throw that cunt in with him. She kept pushing and pushing and look what happened!

I think the moving guy that was punching the rock is a crack head and thats why he was doing that . I also think he is the one who may have killed the girl! Maybe it was the rich kid ex boyfriends father? Who knows but I do want to know why he gave that look to the dead girls Aunt and she ran off crying? Did they have an affair that no one knows about? That story line was dropped and nothing has been mentioned about it since!

Recyclerz
05-23-2011, 09:06 PM
Well, what a f'n great turn of events last night!!


Any terrorism angle squashed... but now that poor bastard might be dead.

And yea, there is something up with Stan's moving guy. WTF was he doing when Stan was beating on the teacher? Punching a rock over and over? That guy is disturbed.

I think the case is going to focus back on the mayoral campaign...

I'm picking Gwen, Richardson's manager/girlfriend, as a prime suspect.

They are turning up the swerves the last few weeks and I think it works because the actors are all playing their characters pretty tight. Am I the only one who picked up a Mystic River homage (or some pretty hefty borrowing) with this episode?

This is a good series but I suspect, like Rubicon, it is going to be one & done.

thepaulo
05-24-2011, 05:56 AM
We've been through a dozen suspects and a few shady characters....but there are bound to be many more surprizes before the end.

ihaveabadmonkey
06-12-2011, 07:02 PM
I think Richmond may have done it.

Furtherman
06-12-2011, 08:07 PM
Great episode tonight... One left!

StanUpshaw
06-12-2011, 08:33 PM
I think Richmond may have done it.

They certainly seemed to leave some subtle clues for the astute viewer to pick up on.

thepaulo
06-13-2011, 06:55 AM
They certainly seemed to leave some subtle clues for the astute viewer to pick up on.

I would say that they made it obvious...maybe too obvious.

ihaveabadmonkey
06-13-2011, 07:22 AM
Next week is the season finale so we will know soon. What if Richmond paid the teacher to do it.

Edit: maybe it's Mitch's sister.

CountryBob
06-13-2011, 07:24 AM
I think it will be the hot chick assistant of the Congressman - jealousy always will get ya.

Furtherman
06-13-2011, 07:29 AM
I think it will be the hot chick assistant of the Congressman - jealousy always will get ya.

She was my pick too. But now Mich's sister is wrapped up in it pretty good too... not sure where she fits in.

ihaveabadmonkey
06-13-2011, 07:31 AM
I don't think blondie knew he was banging hookers until she saw the photos the mayor gave to her. So that's why i don't think it will be her.

StanUpshaw
06-13-2011, 07:34 AM
I think the rich kid from episode one and the pervy...i mean totally normal and healthy...janitor teamed up WITH Richmond's assistant to kill the ho.

CountryBob
06-13-2011, 07:51 AM
Why do I have some feeling that the dude cop is dirty and tied into this as well?

thepaulo
06-13-2011, 09:32 AM
Now the sleasy political consultant seems capable of anything.

Furtherman
06-13-2011, 11:36 AM
AMC just picked it up for a second season! :thumbup:

Snacks
06-13-2011, 12:14 PM
AMC just picked it up for a second season! :thumbup:

Why? Will they continue this story or have a whole new killing?

I liked last nights eps, last weeks eps was boring and a waste.

The one thing I havent liked about this show is how its dragged on. I wish we would have found out who the killer was this week and then the finale could have been the story about why and how it all went down.

As for who I think it is? I thought it was that Rich kids father or her Aunt because at the wake they both looked at each other weird. Now Im guessing that weird look was because she was a hooker and he had used her services at 1 time. I still think it could be 1 of those 2 but Im going to say after last night they will have a lot of explaining to do if its not the councilman/ mayor to be!

I really want to know now why she was hooking on weekends and why she was saving the money?

ihaveabadmonkey
06-13-2011, 12:22 PM
I'm pretty sure the Rosie Larson story will wrap up this Sunday and it will be a new case for next season.

CountryBob
06-13-2011, 12:50 PM
Why? Will they continue this story or have a whole new killing?

I liked last nights eps, last weeks eps was boring and a waste.

The one thing I havent liked about this show is how its dragged on. I wish we would have found out who the killer was this week and then the finale could have been the story about why and how it all went down.

As for who I think it is? I thought it was that Rich kids father or her Aunt because at the wake they both looked at each other weird. Now Im guessing that weird look was because she was a hooker and he had used her services at 1 time. I still think it could be 1 of those 2 but Im going to say after last night they will have a lot of explaining to do if its not the councilman/ mayor to be!

I really want to know now why she was hooking on weekends and why she was saving the money?

Rosie was hooking to pay off Daddy's debts with the Russian mafia guy. Daddy didnt know but someone in the household did. :blink:

ihaveabadmonkey
06-19-2011, 07:02 PM
WTF just happened

Pitdoc
06-19-2011, 07:18 PM
WTF just happened

I'm not sure either. Obviously not the councilman now. But I can't see how they'll stretch this over another 13 episodes(though it would last until the election then) . The obvious culprit now is the rich guy. But a lot of reviewers are piiiIIIIIIISSSSSSEDDDDDDD!!! about this ending. Boo to the producers for making Holder a bad guy .

Snacks
06-20-2011, 12:11 AM
I'm not sure either. Obviously not the councilman now. But I can't see how they'll stretch this over another 13 episodes(though it would last until the election then) . The obvious culprit now is the rich guy. But a lot of reviewers are piiiIIIIIIISSSSSSEDDDDDDD!!! about this ending. Boo to the producers for making Holder a bad guy .

Im pissed and to be honest who wants to wait for another full season to find out what happened? They should have done 1 of 2 things. Tell us who the killer was and wrap this season up nicely and then have a whole new murder for these cops to investigate. Or wrap this killing up nicely but next season have a whole new cast in a different city investigating a different killing. This is just dragging on and on. They actually could have done this season in half the amount of eps and kept it a little faster pace and more exciting. By dragging this out they made it a little boring.

thepaulo
06-20-2011, 06:39 AM
Why do I have some feeling that the dude cop is dirty and tied into this as well?

Well we now have to assume the dude cop is dirty.
We have to assume Richmond is being framed in the death.
The sister's involvement with the prostitution ring is a factor.
We are all gonna be pissed until the new season starts.

thepaulo
06-20-2011, 06:55 AM
one more thing, the mayor's obviously involved in getting Tichmond.

One of many article's.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/06/the-killing-finale-seriously-who-killed-rosie-larsen/240687/

Furtherman
06-20-2011, 08:46 AM
That is a good article paulo, but I think the author got one point wrong - we don't know if Richmond was shot. No shot was heard. Just a screen gone to blank.


But holy shit was a twist at the end!! No!! Not Holder!! And who was in that car?! Poor Linden, stuck on that plane knowing she was double crossed, just as she accepted Holder has a good cop - just as we ALL probably did.

I loved this show - look forward to it returning to that grey, rainy mystery. This is twice Linden has messed up on an arrest, and I can only image she'll be back hard core for vengeance and justice.

thepaulo
06-20-2011, 11:51 AM
That is a good article paulo, but I think the author got one point wrong - we don't know if Richmond was shot. No shot was heard. Just a screen gone to blank.


But holy shit was a twist at the end!! No!! Not Holder!! And who was in that car?! Poor Linden, stuck on that plane knowing she was double crossed, just as she accepted Holder has a good cop - just as we ALL probably did.

I loved this show - look forward to it returning to that grey, rainy mystery. This is twice Linden has messed up on an arrest, and I can only image she'll be back hard core for vengeance and justice.

agreed. we don't know if Richmond was shot.
But more more important....
we don't know which dirty scumbag will be the next mayor of Seattle.

thepaulo
06-20-2011, 04:40 PM
I'm inconsolable/ The only thing that will make me feel better is focusing on the Dexter season premiere.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-critics-notebook-killing-20110621,0,6423695.story

http://dexterseason6.com/dexter-season-6-premier/

Recyclerz
06-20-2011, 05:59 PM
That is a good article paulo, but I think the author got one point wrong - we don't know if Richmond was shot. No shot was heard. Just a screen gone to blank.


But holy shit was a twist at the end!! No!! Not Holder!! And who was in that car?! Poor Linden, stuck on that plane knowing she was double crossed, just as she accepted Holder has a good cop - just as we ALL probably did.

I loved this show - look forward to it returning to that grey, rainy mystery. This is twice Linden has messed up on an arrest, and I can only image she'll be back hard core for vengeance and justice.

I dunno. I wanted to like this show and was very psyched for the first half of the season but it kind of fell apart at the end & I thought the finale was kind of hack. I didn't hate it as much as this lady (http://www.aoltv.com/2011/06/19/the-killing-season-1-season-finale-recap/) but she raises some good points.

It seems like the show couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a low key thriller with swerves that ultimately added up to a convincing climax while keeping it real (in the old school sense in that the characters stayed "true") a la Rubicon or to be a more mainstream thriller with plot points and red herrings thrown in that didn't necessarily make sense but made for a theoretically fun if mindless ride (a la 24) with a thick layer of moodiness over the top to make it "Artsy." I think it was more the latter than the former, especially with the sloppiness of the finale. Some of my complaints:

They let Stan in the same hospital room as the teacher? The teacher's wife didn't recognize him as the guy who almost killed her husband? Larsen lurches from "by the book" cop who keeps herself tightly wound to shrill harpie willing to jeopardize the case by twice going to Richmond's apartment? Holder pulls some hack photoshop as evidence that would easily have been disproved in court unless he knew Richmond would be killed & it wouldn't get that far?

As the Great Pepper Hicks might put it - C'mon.

thepaulo
06-21-2011, 06:39 AM
I dunno. I wanted to like this show and was very psyched for the first half of the season but it kind of fell apart at the end & I thought the finale was kind of hack. I didn't hate it as much as this lady (http://www.aoltv.com/2011/06/19/the-killing-season-1-season-finale-recap/) but she raises some good points.

It seems like the show couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a low key thriller with swerves that ultimately added up to a convincing climax while keeping it real (in the old school sense in that the characters stayed "true") a la Rubicon or to be a more mainstream thriller with plot points and red herrings thrown in that didn't necessarily make sense but made for a theoretically fun if mindless ride (a la 24) with a thick layer of moodiness over the top to make it "Artsy." I think it was more the latter than the former, especially with the sloppiness of the finale. Some of my complaints:

They let Stan in the same hospital room as the teacher? The teacher's wife didn't recognize him as the guy who almost killed her husband? Larsen lurches from "by the book" cop who keeps herself tightly wound to shrill harpie willing to jeopardize the case by twice going to Richmond's apartment? Holder pulls some hack photoshop as evidence that would easily have been disproved in court unless he knew Richmond would be killed & it wouldn't get that far?

As the Great Pepper Hicks might put it - C'mon.

The problem is that we have lots of information...probably too much and that's as bad a s not enough...but we don't have critical bits and so we can only speculate
And we have to speculate for a year. A normal person just gives up.

thepaulo
06-21-2011, 07:44 AM
the producer explains

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/19/the-killing-season-finale-two/

StanUpshaw
06-21-2011, 02:55 PM
I dunno. I wanted to like this show and was very psyched for the first half of the season but it kind of fell apart at the end & I thought the finale was kind of hack. I didn't hate it as much as this lady (http://www.aoltv.com/2011/06/19/the-killing-season-1-season-finale-recap/) but she raises some good points.

It seems like the show couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a low key thriller with swerves that ultimately added up to a convincing climax while keeping it real (in the old school sense in that the characters stayed "true") a la Rubicon or to be a more mainstream thriller with plot points and red herrings thrown in that didn't necessarily make sense but made for a theoretically fun if mindless ride (a la 24) with a thick layer of moodiness over the top to make it "Artsy." I think it was more the latter than the former, especially with the sloppiness of the finale.

Bingo.

I got hooked by a serious show about serious people. What it turned into was a frivolous show about conspiracies and skullduggery. Fuck em.

thepaulo
06-24-2011, 06:38 PM
I think it's a testament to the quality of the show to see how strong the controversy remains.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/24/the-killing-finale-response/

StanUpshaw
06-24-2011, 07:07 PM
I think it's a testament to the quality of the show to see how strong the controversy remains.

Counterpoint. (http://forum.twilightlexicon.com/viewforum.php?f=20)

underdog
07-14-2011, 06:49 PM
I started watching this yesterday and I'm about to watch the season finale. I'm very excited to see the terrible ending that everyone was so mad about.

Snacks
07-14-2011, 07:20 PM
I started watching this yesterday and I'm about to watch the season finale. I'm very excited to see the terrible ending that everyone was so mad about.

you will be just as pissed after putting 12/13 hours into that show.

underdog
07-14-2011, 07:40 PM
you will be just as pissed after putting 12/13 hours into that show.

Eh, wasn't that bad. Just a cliffhanger for the next season.

underdog
07-14-2011, 07:45 PM
go back and watch the pilot of the show, though. it was fucking horrendous. It was like every drama tv cliche smashed into one episode. It got much better after that, then trailed off the last few episodes.

thepaulo
07-15-2011, 12:36 AM
I know Enos was nominated for an emmy...what else did they get?

Rhah
07-22-2011, 07:26 AM
I just read through the thread. I followed this show as it was on, as well. What's funny is I must have a bad memory because almost every week I ask my wife "Hey who was the killer in the Killing again?"

Now, I know why I can never remember, haha.

CountryBob
07-28-2011, 10:24 AM
Fans of "The Killing" will find out who killed Rosie Larsen in season two. That promise came from AMC’s head of original programming Joel Stillerman, who admitted that the network did not effectively “manage expectations".

Well no shit - sherlock.

ihaveabadmonkey
07-28-2011, 11:34 AM
If they don't say who killed her in 2 season, I think we have the right to burn down AMC studios.

StanUpshaw
07-28-2011, 11:58 AM
You really need to be passionate about something to commit arson. After 39 weeks off the air, I can't imagine anyone giving a fuck.

Snacks
07-28-2011, 12:12 PM
You really need to be passionate about something to commit arson. After 39 weeks off the air, I can't imagine anyone giving a fuck.

I agree, I think they will have lost a lot of people come the new season. There will be too much time between and the longer it is the less people will care especially after how pissed the majority of viewers seemed to be.

Rhah
07-28-2011, 01:29 PM
I really have no idea why they didn't follow the same formula as the original series and have each season a contained case from start to finish.

I hate how US Television can't ever get away from the ride one cast of characters into the shitheap for X amount of seasons until everyone is sick of them.

I still to this day think 24 would have been the greatest show ever if the next season they had a new cast and a new "hero" who was having a really bad day. Sure have f'n cameos if you need to of characters from the past...

I guess it is the greed vs art factor, they want to squeeze as many dollars from the celebrity they create with the show until that person is a worn-out, typecast actor who can't get any other work.

Chigworthy
03-27-2012, 09:08 PM
Just started watching this and am almost done. I like how the score adds a certain homage to Twin Peaks, another unconventional show that didn't try to wrap everything up all tidy and suffered for it. I like it.

Chigworthy
03-27-2012, 11:03 PM
The Rosie at the isolated Indian casino angle is a direct nod to Laura Palmer and that skank Ronette Pulaski sluttin' it up at One Eyed Jack's.

thepaulo
03-28-2012, 01:38 AM
If they don't say who killed her in 2 season, I think we have the right to burn down AMC studios.

You do not have that right.
The head of AMC studios has promised that he will be tied up and tickled mercilessly instead.

Furtherman
03-28-2012, 06:22 AM
I, for one, am looking forward to this show's return. I might be the only one who liked the finale's twist.

underdog
03-28-2012, 07:03 AM
I, for one, am looking forward to this show's return. I might be the only one who liked the finale's twist.

I had no interest in the show until everyone started freaking out about the ending. So then I had to watch it to see what everyone found so miserable, and I didn't really think it was that bad. The show was good and the twist ending was whatever.

Furtherman
04-02-2012, 08:23 AM
Great return to the series last night. They really changed a lot of character's persepectives. Especially Holder's role in the last season finale. Poor guy was just a patsy, which makes sense since it was just a about-face, or at least it seemed like it.

Now I feel bad for the guy, although they're doing that "if only the two character just talked they'd figure this out" storyline which is always very frustrating.

But Belko's suicide and Richmond's condition was a surprise too. Now it seems they're back to square one, but with three ruined lives (including one dead), because of pride and corruption.

Snacks
04-02-2012, 08:49 AM
After the shitty way they ended last season and all the negative reviews they came out right after last years season finale and said we would find out the killer in the 1st eps of season 2. Yet again they fucking lied and now are back to square 1 with no leads and no one knowing who the killer is or why she was killed. You can only drag out 1 murder so long while making everyone a suspect. So now we get another season of more suspects and probably former suspects now becoming suspects again all to drag out this murder for 2 seasons. They should at the most 1 murder investigation per season.

Furtherman
04-02-2012, 08:57 AM
After the shitty way they ended last season and all the negative reviews they came out right after last years season finale and said we would find out the killer in the 1st eps of season 2.

No, they didn't.

CountryBob
04-02-2012, 09:12 AM
They said that the European version took 2 seasons to come clean - I think they are following that similar story line.

Snacks
04-02-2012, 09:27 AM
They said that the European version took 2 seasons to come clean - I think they are following that similar story line.

The Danish version wrapped it up in 1 season from my understanding season 2 was different and now they are filming season 3. Funny thing I just found out, the star of the Danish series who plays Lindens character known as Lund made a cameo in the American version last night. She played the female ADA or DA that dropped the charges against the politician.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0826760/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517495/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1779605/


Only here do we fuck shit up to prolong the fake drama and make it worse. They get greedy to stretch shit out and make more unnecessary seasons purely for money not for entertainment.

Furtherman
04-02-2012, 09:39 AM
The Danish version wrapped it up in 1 season. Only here do we fuck shit up to prolong the fake drama and make it worse. They get greedy to stretch shit out and make more unnecessary seasons purely for money not for entertainment.

Name one American TV show that doesn't do that.

Snacks
04-02-2012, 09:50 AM
Name one American TV show that doesn't do that.

They all do but differently. They at least usually wrap up a season and leave a cliffhanger for something else or something that changes to an entirely different case. This show is keeping the same murder going after the first couple eps were interesting the rest of the season became lots of filler and red herrings just to get 13 eps. Now they are going to drag this on for another 13 eps? How many fucking twists and changed can you have with 1 story without making everyone involved look like they dont know what they are doing? 13 hours tv hours to find out who killed 1 person on a tv show was already a stretch. This is entertainment and we need to stay entertained while also believing the situation. Im not saying I dont like shows taking on the same story because I do I prefer them over the 1 hour every crime wrapped up in 1 eps type of shows. But I also dont like shows that stretch it out for no other reason other then to stretch it out.

Season 1 should have been about who killed her for the majority of the season and then tell us why and wrap it up. Season 2 could have been a new killings with the same cast or move the show to an entire new city, new police dept, new murder investigation with an entire new cast.

Whats the saying about European TV? Its about the quality of the eps not the quantity! Well this show is all about quantity.

Furtherman
04-02-2012, 09:53 AM
OK, then I guess you won't be watching.

The show still has some of the best characters on a cable drama going today.

Snacks
04-02-2012, 10:03 AM
I dont know yet because lots of my Sunday night shows had season finales last night. I dont know what I will have left to watch and this does air before Mad Men which is one of the greatest shows on TV. I may follow this thread to see whats going on and then watch the reveal eps that explains it all. Who knows but if something else is on I will probably watch that.

ihaveabadmonkey
04-02-2012, 10:40 AM
I think they made it seem like it was the Mayor's right hand man that did it. The black guy who fought Jamie in the locker room.

StanUpshaw
04-02-2012, 10:46 AM
I think they made it seem like it was the Mayor's right hand man that did it. The black guy who fought Jamie in the locker room.

Yep, he was certainly the red herring of the week.

Snacks
04-02-2012, 11:22 AM
I think they made it seem like it was the Mayor's right hand man that did it. The black guy who fought Jamie in the locker room.

Im sure next week there will be someone else like the mob boss, then the next week it will be someone else and so on.

ihaveabadmonkey
04-02-2012, 07:24 PM
Is the sun ever out in Seattle? They were up to day 15 last night and everyday it has rained I think.

cougarjake13
04-02-2012, 07:31 PM
Is the sun ever out in Seattle? They were up to day 15 last night and everyday it has rained I think.



Not much alledgedly

underdog
04-03-2012, 05:48 PM
Is the sun ever out in Seattle? They were up to day 15 last night and everyday it has rained I think.

It wasn't raining the night of the murder, right?

StanUpshaw
04-29-2012, 09:53 PM
This show really blows now.

boonanas
05-01-2012, 02:14 AM
I removed it from my DVR schedule last week, worst show on television. I get such a case of ADD watching it. BORING.

Chimee
05-01-2012, 02:40 AM
At this point I think everyone murdered Rosie.

ihaveabadmonkey
05-01-2012, 05:27 AM
It's seeming like it took a 20 person conspiracy to kill a high school girl.

newport king
05-01-2012, 07:38 AM
I hope her son and his hooligan friends killed her. Fuck this show

underdog
05-01-2012, 08:07 AM
I'm so happy everyone feels the same way about this show.

ihaveabadmonkey
05-01-2012, 08:13 AM
Yo Homes, this show is tight. That's my Holder impression. I think I nailed it.

newport king
05-01-2012, 08:18 AM
It just makes no fucking sense. And goes NOWHERE. Theres not 1 likable person on the show. Im a few episodes behind but Big Stan needs to just rock his sister in laws box already. And the redhead might be the worst mother since Lori on Walking Dead.

Furtherman
05-01-2012, 08:25 AM
Yo Homes, this show is tight. That's my Holder impression. I think I nailed it.

Did anyone ever tell you that you're white?

ihaveabadmonkey
05-01-2012, 08:34 AM
Did anyone ever tell you that you're white?

I laughed like an idiot when that was said.

Furtherman
05-01-2012, 08:39 AM
I laughed like an idiot when that was said.

As did I.





And I still like the show!

Snacks
05-01-2012, 12:31 PM
At this point I think everyone murdered Rosie.

:clap: Excellent!

Ratings of the 1st season and 2nd season tells the story about how people got bored and now pissed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_(season_1)

Season 1 premiered at 2.7 million viewers and the first 5 eps had avg over 2.5 million viewers. People got bored and the next 6 eps it fell to avg around 1.85 million viewers. The season finale brought back many who just wanted to know who the killer was with 2.3 million viewers.

Lots of articles were written about how shitty the finale was and many comments were about how many people would not watch season 2. I guess they weren't lying.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_(season_2)

Season 2 ratings premiered weak with 1.8 million viewers (almost 1 million viewers less then season 1 premiere). Stayed at 1.8 million for the 1st 3 weeks and has gradually died all the way down to 1.3 million viewers last week.

CountryBob
05-01-2012, 04:37 PM
I have all of this season's episodes on the DVR and I still just cant seem to invest time to watch them. I think Im gonna wiat until the last episode and watch it - I bet I wont miss much of anything missing all the others.

The first 5 or so episodes of the first season I loved - then my passion faded away like a May -December romance. .

Yeah - fuck this show!:thumbdown:

Furtherman
06-05-2012, 11:58 AM
I take it everyone here is done with the show but the last episode was amazingly awesome, as it had to be because next week in the two part season finale.

Linden's got the evidence she needed - in such an awesome way that made you feel really great for her - FINALLY.

And of course, it wasn't who it seemed it would be linked to that evidence. Another great twist that leads right back to someone I thought might have had something to do with it in season 1.

thepaulo
06-05-2012, 12:20 PM
:clap: Excellent!

Ratings of the 1st season and 2nd season tells the story about how people got bored and now pissed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_(season_1)

Season 1 premiered at 2.7 million viewers and the first 5 eps had avg over 2.5 million viewers. People got bored and the next 6 eps it fell to avg around 1.85 million viewers. The season finale brought back many who just wanted to know who the killer was with 2.3 million viewers.

Lots of articles were written about how shitty the finale was and many comments were about how many people would not watch season 2. I guess they weren't lying.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_(season_2)

Season 2 ratings premiered weak with 1.8 million viewers (almost 1 million viewers less then season 1 premiere). Stayed at 1.8 million for the 1st 3 weeks and has gradually died all the way down to 1.3 million viewers last week.



Declining ratings

With the resolution of Twin Peaks' main drawing point (Laura Palmer's murder) in the middle of the second season, and with subsequent story lines becoming more obscure and drawn out, public interest finally began to wane, and "Peaksmania" seemed over. This discontent, coupled with ABC changing its timeslot on a number of occasions, led to a huge drop in ratings after being one of the most-watched television programs in the United States in 1990. A week after the season's 15th episode placed 85th in the ratings out of 89 shows, ABC put Twin Peaks on indefinite hiatus,[40] a move which usually leads to cancellation.[5]

An organized letter-writing campaign, dubbed COOP (Citizens Opposed to the Offing of Peaks), started in an attempt to save the show from cancellation.[41] The campaign was successful, and ABC agreed to air the remaining six episodes to finish the season.[41] In the final episodes, Agent Cooper was given a love interest, Annie Blackburn (Heather Graham), to replace the intended story arc with Audrey Horne. The series finale did not sufficiently boost interest, despite being written to end on a deliberate audience-baiting cliffhanger, and the show was not renewed for a third season, leaving the new cliffhanger unresolved.

David Lynch expressed his regret at having resolved the Laura Palmer murder, stating he and Frost had never intended for the series to answer the question and that doing so "killed the goose that laid the golden eggs". Lynch blames network pressure for the decision to resolve the Palmer storyline prematurely.[42] In 1993, cable channel Bravo acquired the license to rerun the entire series, which began airing in June 1993.[43] These reruns included Lynch's addition of introductions to each episode by the Log Lady and her cryptic musings.[44]

Looking back, Frost has admitted that he wished he and Lynch had "worked out a smoother transition" between storylines and that the Laura Palmer story was a "tough act to follow".[15] Regarding the second season, Frost felt that "perhaps the storytelling wasn't quite as taut or as fraught with emotion".[15]

thepaulo
06-05-2012, 12:20 PM
I take it everyone here is done with the show but the last episode was amazingly awesome, as it had to be because next week in the two part season finale.

Linden's got the evidence she needed - in such an awesome way that made you feel really great for her - FINALLY.

And of course, it wasn't who it seemed it would be linked to that evidence. Another great twist that leads right back to someone I thought might have had something to do with it in season 1.

I agree with Futherman.

underdog
06-05-2012, 01:05 PM
When it's over, can someone just tell me who did it? Thanks.

StanUpshaw
06-05-2012, 01:11 PM
When it's over, can someone just tell me who did it? Thanks.

It was you and me.

newport king
06-05-2012, 01:28 PM
I get mad at my dvr for even recording this anymore

thepaulo
06-05-2012, 01:34 PM
I'm liking Jamie.

http://suspecttracker.amctv.com/

StanUpshaw
06-05-2012, 01:38 PM
I vote for mass hallucination. Rosie never existed at all.

Dan 'Hampton
06-05-2012, 01:47 PM
The squinty bitch's son did it.

Chimee
06-05-2012, 01:49 PM
It was an elaborate suicide.

StanUpshaw
06-05-2012, 02:19 PM
It was The Wolfen.

underdog
06-05-2012, 02:42 PM
It was you and me.

The last episode is just going to end with a mirror.

underdog
06-05-2012, 02:43 PM
I get mad at my dvr for even recording this anymore

ha! I had the same thought last night.

Furtherman
06-05-2012, 02:54 PM
I'm liking Jamie.

http://suspecttracker.amctv.com/

Last year I suspected Gwen.

ihaveabadmonkey
06-06-2012, 08:59 AM
I'm still watching, I thought the last 2-3 episodes were pretty good. It is looking like it's either Jamie or Gwen but I'm sure it won't turn out to be either. Maybe some cleaning lady that works in City Hall.

StanUpshaw
06-06-2012, 09:30 AM
Someone was trying to frame Richmond, so wouldn't it be consistent with the frame job to plant a Richmond keycard at the scene?

StanUpshaw
06-10-2012, 08:17 PM
I think we can safely eliminate Jamie as a suspect.

Chimee
06-11-2012, 06:55 AM
I get the feeling that after all this buildup, some random person is going to walk in and admit to doing it.

Fallon
06-11-2012, 01:38 PM
I get the feeling that after all this buildup, some random person is going to walk in and admit to doing it.

http://www.wrestlingtube.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/Rikishi.jpg

ihaveabadmonkey
06-11-2012, 03:27 PM
It will be whoever is the 4th person on the tape that we didn't see. No way they are giving up the killer before the season finale.

Dan 'Hampton
06-11-2012, 07:11 PM
It's like hot fuzz. The whole town killed that bitch.

thepaulo
06-12-2012, 06:17 AM
I know there are nine million suspects but who's the old guy in the house.

Furtherman
06-12-2012, 06:26 AM
I know there are nine million suspects but who's the old guy in the house.

I believe it will be Jamie's grandfather. Holder went to visit him to ask where Jamie was the night of the murder and he said Jamie was at the house that night. Holder and Linden had previously learned that Jamie lived with his grandfather.

Jamie's grandfather was also the man that Richmond had mentioned in speeches - about a man who worked his entire life at a factory, was injured, but kept moving on... that sort of thing.


So Jamie's grandfather called Richmond. That's why Richmond went over to his house. When Jamie showed up, not knowing that Richmond was there, Richmond asked "Why did you lie to me Jamie?"

Was it about his grandfather? Who didn't look injured. Or was it a lie pertaining to Rosie?

We'll find out next week.

thepaulo
06-12-2012, 07:34 AM
I believe it will be Jamie's grandfather. Holder went to visit him to ask where Jamie was the night of the murder and he said Jamie was at the house that night. Holder and Linden had previously learned that Jamie lived with his grandfather.

Jamie's grandfather was also the man that Richmond had mentioned in speeches - about a man who worked his entire life at a factory, was injured, but kept moving on... that sort of thing.


So Jamie's grandfather called Richmond. That's why Richmond went over to his house. When Jamie showed up, not knowing that Richmond was there, Richmond asked "Why did you lie to me Jamie?"

Was it about his grandfather? Who didn't look injured. Or was it a lie pertaining to Rosie?

We'll find out next week.

Thanks, that helps a lot.

Furtherman
06-12-2012, 08:20 AM
Thanks, that helps a lot.

You are very welcome Paulo.




All you other Killing haters can suck a bag of dicks. :dry:

CountryBob
06-12-2012, 02:13 PM
She really isn't dead - that was a wax figure in the trunk.

Chimee
06-12-2012, 02:20 PM
I believe it will be Jamie's grandfather. Holder went to visit him to ask where Jamie was the night of the murder and he said Jamie was at the house that night. Holder and Linden had previously learned that Jamie lived with his grandfather.

Jamie's grandfather was also the man that Richmond had mentioned in speeches - about a man who worked his entire life at a factory, was injured, but kept moving on... that sort of thing.


So Jamie's grandfather called Richmond. That's why Richmond went over to his house. When Jamie showed up, not knowing that Richmond was there, Richmond asked "Why did you lie to me Jamie?"

Was it about his grandfather? Who didn't look injured. Or was it a lie pertaining to Rosie?

We'll find out next week.

I think the lie was about the campaign, Jamie probably told Richmond this story about his grandfather and Richmond used it, only to discover that the story was a lie.

StanUpshaw
06-12-2012, 02:35 PM
I sorta got lost after the second broken handed lesbian henchman showed up. This show really is booked by Vince Russo.

thepaulo
06-13-2012, 03:22 AM
You are very welcome Paulo.




All you other Killing haters can suck a bag of dicks. :dry:

Yeah!
Suck a bag of dicks, haters.

ihaveabadmonkey
06-13-2012, 07:40 AM
haters be hatin'

StanUpshaw
06-17-2012, 02:40 PM
So it was the fucking mayor after all? What bullshit.

underdog
06-17-2012, 03:46 PM
So it was the fucking mayor after all? What bullshit.

Did it air already?

thepaulo
06-17-2012, 04:13 PM
So it was the fucking mayor after all? What bullshit.

excuse me? It hasn't aired yet.

ihaveabadmonkey
06-17-2012, 05:47 PM
maybe it's Mitch's sister.

I win

oh yeah spoiler

thepaulo
06-17-2012, 06:21 PM
by all that is holy....
spoiler tags.!

thepaulo
06-17-2012, 06:22 PM
I'm liking Jamie.

http://suspecttracker.amctv.com/

but I'm just saying...

ihaveabadmonkey
06-17-2012, 06:28 PM
it was a combo killing

Recyclerz
06-17-2012, 07:24 PM
Man, did this show ever wind up sucking, and not it the good way. The writers of the show got so consumed in chasing their own tails (I have to assume they thought they were building den-shun - boy were they wrong) that they spun around faster and faster and wound up screwing themselves into the ground like the Tasmanian Devil did in the old Bugs Bunny cartoons. The sad part is they took me with them.

I have committed the name Veena Sud to memory and will do everything in my power to avoid any project she's attached to (in the unlikely event anyone is crazy enough to hire her again in show bidness) down to and including self-produced You Tube clips she may inflict on the public. :wallbash:

Furtherman
06-17-2012, 08:12 PM
The mayor had nothing to do with it, but Jamie committed the first blow to Rosie, the second part was a shock. The reveal what happened at the lake was well done and unexpected.

Some may think it took too long to get there, but I enjoyed the series a lot. I hope Holden, Linden and even
Stan, however unlikely, come back for a third season. They were some of the best characters on TV.

StanUpshaw
06-17-2012, 08:19 PM
Can I just say: Rosie Larsen was the most brilliant filmmaker of all time. That movie came off an undeveloped 8mm film reel, meaning she had to film exactly those shots, in sequence, with no edits or second takes. Yes, it was saccharin high school garbage, but it shows AMAZING talent.

Snacks
06-17-2012, 11:14 PM
So it took 2 years and a bunch of nothing to tell us she was killed for no reason other then being in the wrong place at the wrong time. She probably had no idea what those 3 people were talking about and wasn't going to say anything. All she was doing was looking out and saying goodbye to the city she was from and was going to move on.

This show was a disaster from week 3 or 4 of season 1 til the end.

thepaulo
06-18-2012, 05:33 AM
I enjoyed the show even though it took two seasons to get the final reveal. Unfortunately it probably won't get a third season. I'll be watching.
The pace was definately different than most other things on TV.

Furtherman
06-18-2012, 05:54 AM
I enjoyed the show even though it took two seasons to get the final reveal. Unfortunately it probably won't get a third season. I'll be watching.
The pace was definately different than most other things on TV.

The show took place over 26 days. Did anyone complain when the show 24 took place over 24 hours? Oh wait, yea, they did. It took 26 days to figure out the killers. I'm not a detective, but I'd say that's pretty damn good compared to real life murder-mysteries. Meanwhile we got a great story and characters in between. Patience seems only to be virtuous on television these days.

StanUpshaw
06-18-2012, 06:25 AM
It took 26 days to figure out the killers. I'm not a detective, but I'd say that's pretty damn good compared to real life murder-mysteries.

They have at least two reality shows based around the fact that if shit doesn't get solved within 48 hours, it probably never will be.

underdog
06-18-2012, 06:26 AM
Furtherman is very defensive about this show

Furtherman
06-18-2012, 06:35 AM
Furtherman is very defensive about this show

LINDEN/HOLDER 2012

Fallon
06-18-2012, 11:12 AM
How did Jamie get Rosies body from the 10th floor to the trunk of the car?

Snacks
06-18-2012, 11:28 AM
How did Jamie get Rosies body from the 10th floor to the trunk of the car?

Come on they only had 26 eps they couldn't explain everything. They were too busy making everyone and anyone look like the killer.

Furtherman
06-18-2012, 12:13 PM
How did Jamie get Rosies body from the 10th floor to the trunk of the car?

He could have brought her down himself through that service elevator. She was unconscious.

thepaulo
06-18-2012, 12:35 PM
He could have brought her down himself through that service elevator. She was unconscious.

I don't know for sure but since this area was under construction it could have been fairly easy.

True, cases should be solved within 48 hours but Linden was especially dogged and relentless.
No one can deny it gave us a large array of compelling characters.
I completely have Furthermans back on this.
If you have a problem, meet me down at the docks.

StanUpshaw
06-18-2012, 12:38 PM
I don't know for sure but since this area was under construction it could have been fairly easy.

True, cases should be solved within 48 hours but Linden was especially dogged and relentless.
No one can deny it gave us a large array of compelling characters.
I completely have Furthermans back on this.
If you have a problem, meet me down at the docks.

Cheap red herrings do not make for quality TV.

Furtherman
06-18-2012, 12:49 PM
Cheap red herrings do not make for quality TV.

Every televised serial arc mystery has red herrings. They must. The Fugitive ran on TV for four seasons. That was one case. No red herrings there?

StanUpshaw
06-18-2012, 12:54 PM
Every televised serial arc mystery has red herrings. They must. The Fugitive ran on TV for four seasons. That was one case. No red herrings there?

I have no idea what was on The Fugitive.

Do people claim The Fugitive was any good?

Furtherman
06-18-2012, 12:57 PM
I have no idea what was on The Fugitive.

Do people claim The Fugitive was any good?

Yes. The finale in 1967 was the most watched program of all time until the Who Shot JR episode of Dallas.

StanUpshaw
06-18-2012, 01:24 PM
Yes. The finale in 1967 was the most watched program of all time until the Who Shot JR episode of Dallas.

Ratings means good? Classic Furtherman logic.

Furtherman
06-18-2012, 01:40 PM
Ratings means good? Classic Furtherman logic.

Sorry, tried to put a show, that is well considered a classic, by many, in a way that might help you. You can trust me or look it up yourself.

Snacks
06-18-2012, 02:07 PM
I never watched the fugitive tv show so I cant say much about that other then its 45 years ago and lots of stuff back then was considered great because it was on tv and a new form of enterainemnt or something that was never done before. Times are different, we have seen it all and there is much more choices. You need to keep us interested or you can lose your audience. This show took way too long to get to where it finally ended. They made it seem like the killing was going to be some huge story and that Rosie was mixed up in something but it turned out to be a girl at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Like I said before, they should have wrapped it up in 1 season and had the 2nd season a totally different cast. But no they tried so hard to stretch this out for 26 eps which created a flat series with a bunch a unnecessary story lines. Many weren't ever answered or made no sense. How about Rosie being a hooker? They thought she was and it even looked like it but that went away quickly and they never explained any of it. They made it seem that the mob boss knew she was a hooker and he was covering it up but now not so much. So why did he burn down the place where it was run? They had so many issues that just magically went away with no explanation even though they had 26 eps to answer everything. Who left the drawing on the fridge? Obviously it wasn't the Indian casino security worked because she asked her and she had no idea what Linden was talking about and that was never discussed again.

Furtherman
06-18-2012, 02:20 PM
Like I said before, they should have wrapped it up in 1 season and had the 2nd season a totally different cast. But no they tried so hard to stretch this out for 26 eps which created a flat series with a bunch a unnecessary story lines. Many weren't ever answered or made no sense. How about Rosie being a hooker? They thought she was and it even looked like it but that went away quickly and they never explained any of it. They made it seem that the mob boss knew she was a hooker and he was covering it up but now not so much. So why did he burn down the place where it was run? They had so many issues that just magically went away with no explanation even though they had 26 eps to answer everything. Who left the drawing on the fridge? Obviously it wasn't the Indian casino security worked because she asked her and she had no idea what Linden was talking about and that was never discussed again.

Rosie was not a hooker. She was mistaken for one at the casino. She worked at the casino as a waitress.

Yannik burned it down because the cops found out about the place. It was ruled an arson, Yannik was known to burn down businesses before, but there was no evidence.

The drawing on the fridge? I don't know.

Donnie Iris
06-18-2012, 02:48 PM
Did they ever explain how Stan Larson was able to walk totally free after nearly killing that teacher?

Furtherman
06-18-2012, 03:04 PM
Did they ever explain how Stan Larson was able to walk totally free after nearly killing that teacher?

Stan turned himself in. His sister in law bailed him out. His court date is still coming up, but it wouldn't have happened in the 26 days the show took place.

Donnie Iris
06-18-2012, 03:15 PM
Stan turned himself in. His sister in law bailed him out. His court date is still coming up, but it wouldn't have happened in the 26 days the show took place.

Gotcha. He seemed to show little to no concern about that.

Are we to assume that they were trying to go with a third season with all the unanswered questions? And that Richmond himself was involved with that whole "You have blood on your face" line from Gwen and then the meeting at the end with the waterfront developers?

CountryBob
06-18-2012, 03:42 PM
I only watched the first episode of this season and the last. I dont feel like I missed much.

That can tell you what a piece this disaster was.

I had such high hopes last year when this show came on - they could have done so much more better.

thepaulo
06-18-2012, 06:21 PM
Cheap red herrings do not make for quality TV.

lots of different elements make for good TV.
No one show is perfect and can't be picked on.
For what it's worth, the killing is underrated currently.
There are lots of loose threads to be followed down and to me that speaks of it's complexity.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/06/the-killing-season-3-where-should-the-show-go-from-here.html

ihaveabadmonkey
06-18-2012, 07:57 PM
I like The Killing, sure some things were shitty about the show. But I enjoyed it. I've wasted an hour a week on worse pieces of shit than this show.

StanUpshaw
06-18-2012, 09:16 PM
There are lots of loose threads to be followed down and to me that speaks of it's complexity.

Sloppy plot holes are a virtue now.

Wow.

thepaulo
06-19-2012, 04:47 AM
Sloppy plot holes are a virtue now.

Wow.

not sloppy plot holes
but tantalizing tangled threads of mystery.

Let's be honest, the reason people are pissed is because they had to wait months for the resolution of a cliffhanger. I think that's a sign of a good show.
I can also see why people would be depressed by the rainy weather.

StanUpshaw
06-19-2012, 05:04 AM
Let's be honest, the reason people are pissed is because they had to wait months for the resolution of a cliffhanger. I think that's a sign of a good show.

If that's the mark of a good show, then a show that lost half its fucking audience must be, by your own criterion, a bad show.

Furtherman
06-19-2012, 05:55 AM
Gotcha. He seemed to show little to no concern about that.

Are we to assume that they were trying to go with a third season with all the unanswered questions? And that Richmond himself was involved with that whole "You have blood on your face" line from Gwen and then the meeting at the end with the waterfront developers?

He had blood on his face because Jamie was shot in front of him.

In the end, he had to work with the developers and the indians. It was a necessity as mayor.

I like The Killing, sure some things were shitty about the show. But I enjoyed it. I've wasted an hour a week on worse pieces of shit than this show.

Truth.

If that's the mark of a good show, then a show that lost half its fucking audience must be, by your own criterion, a bad show.

It didn't lose half, but it lost alot of people who expected the case to be solved in season 1, a premise that was never promised by the creators.


Will it be back? I doubt it. But like ihaveabadmonkey said, I enjoyed it. It was a better mystery with more realistic characters than you'll find on any other network crime drama.

thepaulo
06-19-2012, 09:15 AM
If that's the mark of a good show, then a show that lost half its fucking audience must be, by your own criterion, a bad show.

That's faulty logic. It doesn't follow.
The show is what it is. It was a slow burn with lots of twists and turns.
Some of the audience was impatient and turned on it in a feeding frenzy when they needed a quick release.
Everyone doesn't have to like the show because it's not for everyone.
If no one had care about the show there wouldn't have been an uproar.
It would have faded away without notice.
There are a hundred other shows to watch so I'm sure it won't matter if it won't come back. The only problem is none of the other hundred shows was like this show.

StanUpshaw
06-19-2012, 09:24 AM
Some of the audience was impatient and turned on it in a feeding frenzy when they needed a quick release.

That is complete bullshit. They turned on it because it changed from a smart, somber, slow burn show to one full of nothing but ludicrous plot twists, conspiracies and cheap gimmickry.

Furtherman
06-19-2012, 09:32 AM
Yea, like whatever happened to that Russian in the woods?!

StanUpshaw
06-19-2012, 09:36 AM
Seven seasons and the only thing you can come up with is one loose end from a bottle episode?!

disneyspy
06-19-2012, 09:36 AM
Yea, like whatever happened to that Russian in the woods?!

that fucker drowned charlie at the looking glass station

ihaveabadmonkey
06-19-2012, 10:00 AM
Yea, like whatever happened to that Russian in the woods?!

fafafafafa FACE

no seriously, what did happen to him?

Furtherman
06-19-2012, 10:08 AM
That's what I hear when I hear such complaints about this show - any show for the most part. I blame David Chase.

thepaulo
06-19-2012, 06:43 PM
fafafafafa FACE

no seriously, what did happen to him?


where's the fucking Russian?

Recyclerz
06-19-2012, 06:52 PM
That is complete bullshit. They turned on it because it changed from a smart, somber, slow burn show to one full of nothing but ludicrous plot twists, conspiracies and cheap gimmickry.

The Mayans must be right about 2012 being the end of the world. I am in full agreement with a StanUpshaw post.

Recyclerz
06-19-2012, 07:01 PM
where's the fucking Russian?

He's got a night club in Brighton Beach and is runnng hookers on the side.

But you didn't hear that from me.


Back on point, if you want an example of a smart, somber, slow burn series done right, with a payoff that makes sense, go track down Rubicon. AMC canned it after one season, I think to make room for The Killing. :wallbash:

StanUpshaw
06-19-2012, 07:34 PM
The Mayans must be right about 2012 being the end of the world. I am in full agreement with a StanUpshaw post.

http://i.imgur.com/s8DAg.jpg

thepaulo
06-20-2012, 03:04 AM
He's got a night club in Brighton Beach and is runnng hookers on the side.

But you didn't hear that from me.


Back on point, if you want an example of a smart, somber, slow burn series done right, with a payoff that makes sense, go track down Rubicon. AMC canned it after one season, I think to make room for The Killing. :wallbash:

Rubicon was great, so is The Killing.
Part of the fun was how many red herrings came up.
I don't think ludicrous plot twists is fair but I think this is beyond discussing intelligently.

StanUpshaw
06-20-2012, 05:16 AM
I don't think ludicrous plot twists is fair but I think this is beyond discussing intelligently.

What a cop out. That's what we call "pulling a Crispy."

Rhah
06-20-2012, 05:36 AM
Just wish Linden would have had to visit a mysterious lodge in the woods with backwards talking midgets before finding the killer... I guess a looney bin will have to do.

thepaulo
06-20-2012, 07:01 AM
What a cop out. That's what we call "pulling a Crispy."

okay. the most complicated part of the show is the indian run casino. Federal Indian law is fairly unique and I bet most of us don't know it very well. On top of that we don't really know all the layers of corruption so far. We just have hints of it.
I don't think you're interested in having an intelligent converstaion about it.
You certainly have not proved your case to me.

StanUpshaw
06-20-2012, 07:47 AM
okay. the most complicated part of the show is the indian run casino. Federal Indian law is fairly unique and I bet most of us don't know it very well. On top of that we don't really know all the layers of corruption so far. We just have hints of it.
I don't think you're interested in having an intelligent converstaion about it.
You certainly have not proved your case to me.

Why would I be having a conversation about Federal Indian law? I, nor anyone else who has criticized the show, has ever mentioned anything about Federal Indian law. The shittiness of this show is not dependent whatsoever on Federal Indian law. My case regarding the depiction of Federal Indian law has not been proved because you just made it up.

thepaulo
06-20-2012, 08:27 AM
Why would I be having a conversation about Federal Indian law? I, nor anyone else who has criticized the show, has ever mentioned anything about Federal Indian law. The shittiness of this show is not dependent whatsoever on Federal Indian law. My case regarding the depiction of Federal Indian law has not been proved because you just made it up.


MY biggest problem with the show is that there is so much going on, many things do not get explained.
The relationship the Casino cops have to the local and federal law enforcement is murky and I am not sure if that is due to corruption or juridictional conflicts.

StanUPshaw, can you answer this question?

Furtherman
06-20-2012, 08:52 AM
The point here is that he thinks it's a shitty show, and you (and me) don't.

I don't think any kind of discussion will change our minds.

thepaulo
06-20-2012, 08:59 AM
The point here is that he thinks it's a shitty show, and you (and me) don't.

I don't think any kind of discussion will change our minds.

:down: sigh

ihaveabadmonkey
06-20-2012, 09:49 AM
:down: sigh

I'm with you guys. Thumbs Up homes

Chigworthy
06-22-2012, 06:43 AM
Watched the finale last night. I really liked this show, from the Twin Peaksy allusions to the actors performances. I never had an issue with having to wait to see the next episode because the last one ended on a cliffhanger. I think the biggest problem I had with this show was the unrealistic police procedures that ran throughout it, but The Wire is the only show in human history to come even close to how criminal investigations work on a technical level.

AMC's shows all seem to be heavily character-driven, which is different than most tv shows, and not everyone wants character-driven drama. A lot of people want a show to be a series of action-driven episodes that end neatly. I think Walking Dead took a lot of shit for this too.

Rhah
06-25-2012, 07:22 AM
I watched about 75% of the episodes (all of season 1, and half of 2 + finale).

Really, because of red herrings in every episode of season 1, you only have to watch like first episode of every season maybe then last episode?

I mean shouldn't the viewer be given the illusion they could have figured out the killer in first episode, even if its not entirely true?

Also, why didn't they investigate the alibis of the two campaign workers the very first thing when a campaign car was involved in the crime? It seemed like at the end when they finally followed those threads there wasn't any surprise new evidence that allowed them to start suspecting they weren't good alibis, they weren't good alibis from the start and should have been looked at closer day 1.

Fallon
07-27-2012, 12:11 PM
CANCELLED!!!

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/07/27/killing-canceled/

Good, season 2 was ass!

Chimee
07-27-2012, 01:23 PM
It saves me from compulsively watching a third season that would undoubtedly have been even worse than the second.

newport king
07-27-2012, 02:27 PM
Good

PapaBear
07-28-2012, 04:29 AM
It saves me from compulsively watching a third season that would undoubtedly have been even worse than the second.
I was just thinking, this is the first time I've ever been relieved that a show I actually watched was canceled.

Chimee
07-28-2012, 11:28 PM
I was just thinking, this is the first time I've ever been relieved that a show I actually watched was canceled.

I felt this exact way when Heroes was canceled.

Fallon
11-16-2012, 01:08 PM
GOD DAMMIT!!!!

AMC may revive ‘The Killing’ with Netflix
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/amc-may-revive-the-killing-with-netflix/2012/11/08/b6857f6e-29fa-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_blog.html

thepaulo
11-16-2012, 01:22 PM
GOD DAMMIT!!!!

AMC may revive ‘The Killing’ with Netflix
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/amc-may-revive-the-killing-with-netflix/2012/11/08/b6857f6e-29fa-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_blog.html

yay!!

Furtherman
11-16-2012, 02:17 PM
GOD DAMMIT!!!!

AMC may revive ‘The Killing’ with Netflix
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/amc-may-revive-the-killing-with-netflix/2012/11/08/b6857f6e-29fa-11e2-bab2-eda299503684_blog.html

It's not like you have to watch it. I'd be pleased. But I'm not sure about the article. They're wondering if Hell On Wheels is coming back and it was already announced that it was... plus I thought I heard this before, only the deal didn't work.

Chigworthy
11-16-2012, 04:42 PM
Fucken A!

Rhah
11-20-2012, 08:18 AM
Only good thing about that show is that Mireille Enos got a job in World War Z from her performance in it...

Furtherman
11-20-2012, 01:43 PM
Only good thing about that show is that Mireille Enos got a job in World War Z from her performance in it...

..and her partner became Robocop. Well, we'll see if that was a good thing.

thepaulo
12-03-2012, 06:42 AM
CANCELLED!!!

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/07/27/killing-canceled/

Good, season 2 was ass!

UNCANCELLED!!!!

http://screenrant.com/amc-killing-un-canceled-season-3-may/

Recyclerz
12-03-2012, 07:36 AM
UNCANCELLED!!!!

http://screenrant.com/amc-killing-un-canceled-season-3-may/

It's still dead to me.

Rhah
12-03-2012, 07:57 AM
Ugh.

ihaveabadmonkey
12-03-2012, 08:20 AM
UNCANCELLED!!!!

http://screenrant.com/amc-killing-un-canceled-season-3-may/

good or bad, I'm in.

Furtherman
12-03-2012, 09:19 AM
good or bad, I'm in.

Me too.

PapaBear
12-04-2012, 05:06 AM
good or bad, I'm in.

Me too.
My first marriage...

thepaulo
12-04-2012, 05:45 AM
My first marriage...

All in.

Rhah
12-05-2012, 07:02 AM
Well, obviously, I will watch. I feel qualified to toss out "ughs" about the show when I have seen it.

thepaulo
01-15-2013, 07:50 PM
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/01/15/amc-brings-back-the-killing/

Yay!

thepaulo
05-31-2013, 08:42 AM
....The Killing, on the other hand is back!
This Sunday!
Yay!
http://www.amctv.com/shows/the-killing

Chigworthy
05-31-2013, 08:53 AM
And fuck all y'all h8tin'-azz bytchez.

ihaveabadmonkey
05-31-2013, 09:13 AM
Holder be wearing a tie yo.

thepaulo
05-31-2013, 12:07 PM
And fuck all y'all h8tin'-azz bytchez.

Motherfucking word....fuck the h8tas in the Azzzzzz!

newport king
05-31-2013, 05:51 PM
So who killed rosie? I gave up

thepaulo
06-01-2013, 04:36 AM
So who killed rosie? I gave up

I think it was the blonde campaign manager but it's been a while. I might be confused.

ihaveabadmonkey
06-01-2013, 10:16 AM
It was her Aunt. She was already in the trunk of the car and the Aunt put the car in gear so it would go into the lake not knowing it was her in there.

thepaulo
07-31-2013, 09:49 AM
To quote Sailor...


"Peter sarsgaard? Baby malkovich? Last week's the killing was all sorts of fucked up."

sailor
07-31-2013, 09:50 AM
Good point. It was really rough.

thepaulo
07-31-2013, 09:51 AM
Good point. It was really rough.

The whole season has been motherfucking hardcore.

thepaulo
08-04-2013, 06:43 PM
Super creepy ending!

sailor
08-05-2013, 02:23 AM
Become vengeance, Sarah. Become wrath.

thepaulo
08-05-2013, 05:42 AM
Become vengeance, Sarah. Become wrath.

She got some 'splaining to do.

ihaveabadmonkey
08-05-2013, 07:33 AM
How come she didn't take the ring as evidence? bad police work

sailor
08-05-2013, 08:04 AM
How come she didn't take the ring as evidence? bad police work

Ring ain't going nowhere.

Furtherman
08-17-2013, 08:25 AM
I was happy they brought The Killing back, and this season did not disappoint. They went very dark this season and it wasn't until a few episodes back until I figured it was a cop - when Holder's ex-partner brought out that cigar box full of rings.

But then once they showed Linden HAPPY. With that smile that looked TOTALLY out of place - I knew this couldn't end well, and wow - that was a great ending.

If they bring it back for a third, I can only imagine Linden sitting on a porck drooling all over herself. What else could go wrong to this woman?


And hands down, Holder is one of the best characters on television. He is THE MAN.

thepaulo
08-18-2013, 05:31 PM
I was happy they brought The Killing back, and this season did not disappoint. They went very dark this season and it wasn't until a few episodes back until I figured it was a cop - when Holder's ex-partner brought out that cigar box full of rings.

But then once they showed Linden HAPPY. With that smile that looked TOTALLY out of place - I knew this couldn't end well, and wow - that was a great ending.

If they bring it back for a third, I can only imagine Linden sitting on a porck drooling all over herself. What else could go wrong to this woman?


And hands down, Holder is one of the best characters on television. He is THE MAN.

agreed.

thepaulo
09-11-2013, 06:44 PM
The Killing has been killed!!!! Again!!!!

Pitdoc
09-11-2013, 07:06 PM
I'll miss it .. Both Holder and Linden were great.. The writing could have been better,but thr characters were fully realized.

ihaveabadmonkey
11-16-2013, 06:57 AM
the show that can't get killed geh geh geh

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Netflix-Revives-Killing-Season4-1073504.aspx?rss=breakingnews

CountryBob
11-17-2013, 12:01 PM
I cant believe how this show stays alive - viewer numbers should tell the tale.
Kill the killing.


I don't like the 2 main characters