2011 NFL Playoffs

[Snacks]

Lets get the playoff conversations started.

Who do you like and whats your SB match up as of now?

Im sticking with my preseason picks of GB for the NFC and the AFC its a toss up between Indy and Balt. I do think it will be very tough to beat NE at home but Im sticking with my choices.

Now onto this week

If you are betting take Sea at home, they are getting 10 1/2, buy it up to 11. I have a funny feeling Sea might win outright but getting 10 1/2 at home up there in Sea should be a great bet. NO has never won a road playoff game and NO is going from a dome to outside in Sea which is a tough stadium to play at. They are built for a dome and I think they get caught!

[KnoxHarrington]

Lets get the playoff conversations started.

Who do you like and whats your SB match up as of now?

Im sticking with my preseason picks of GB for the NFC and the AFC its a toss up between Indy and Balt. I do think it will be very tough to beat NE at home but Im sticking with my choices.

Now onto this week

If you are betting take Sea at home, they are getting 10 1/2, buy it up to 11. I have a funny feeling Sea might win outright but getting 10 1/2 at home up there in Sea should be a great bet. NO has never won a road playoff game and NO is going from a dome to outside in Sea which is a tough stadium to play at. They are built for a dome and I think they get caught!

I think they win, but don't cover that line. It'll be a game very much like the Falcons game from a couple of weeks ago. Saints 21, Seahawks 17, something along those lines.

[TripleSkeet]

I dont see anyone stopping New England. I think Philly beats Green Bay, then if they can survive playing in the swamp that will be Soldier Field, come into Atlanta and fly around that turf like jets.

So Philly vs New England is my pick.

[cougarjake13]

patriots vs falcons


brady wins his 4th

[spoon]

For some reason I can't see the Falcons going all the way, yet the NFC is WIDE open.

NE will easily be the big pick, but their D is still young as hell and inexperienced in the playoffs. They can be beat but are surely the favorite due to Brady and BB.

I also don't see Philly making it, as most teams in the NFC playoff picture won't have a huge letdown like the Giants if up. Overall, the Eagles have NOT looked good for a while minus that 7+ minutes against the Giants. So I don't see them making it through 3 rounds to get there either.

I have to think this over before I make my picks.

[sailor]

just to be different, pitt over gb.

[TripleSkeet]

Winnah winnah chicken dinnah!

[TripleSkeet]

Countdown is on!

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7808/52279101.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/52279101.jpg/)

[sailor]

go seahawks! i'm just hoping for a good game.

[weekapaugjz]

i can't wait for the jets to lose tonight.

[TripleSkeet]

go seahawks! i'm just hoping for a good game.

This. I love that they keep coming back. If only their defense can make a couple of stops.

[underdog]

Wow, that has to hurt.

[Snacks]

i can't wait for the jets to lose tonight.

Im with you. It will be great if it happens but I will wait til after they lose before I attack! We all cant be like Rex and talk shit until the game is over!

[weekapaugjz]

saints are killing themselves right now.

[disneyspy]

saints are killing themselves right now.
no shit phil simms

[weekapaugjz]

the seahawks just want it more.

[disneyspy]

the seahawks just want it more.

im going to glen beck your ass

[weekapaugjz]

if that's what you and papabear do to each other, i want no part.

[weekapaugjz]

the hawks d is hungry.

[disneyspy]

i'll sick the teabaggers here (WF and dude!) on you!

[underdog]

It feels weird to say this, but this announcing team is great.

[Ritalin]

Seattle!

[Crispy123]

Holy Shit! Saints are in trouble.

Anyone else here him say, tight end backside?

[Crispy123]

Brees is lookin good though. Way to scramble!

[razorboy]

Jesus, the refs giving the Saints gifts.

[spoon]

This. I love that they keep coming back. If only their defense can make a couple of stops.

Neither can. Hence the reason I picked Seattle to at least keep it within 10.5. I still think when it comes down to it, Brees will pull it out versus Hassleback even if at home.

We'll see. Lynch needs to get the ball more though.

[spoon]

no shit phil simms

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[weekapaugjz]

Lynch needs to get the ball more though.

i have always said that about him.

[spoon]

Jesus, the refs giving the Saints gifts.

Yah that was bad. I'm just glad they didn't get a td out of it, but you never know what would have happened minus the 30 seconds handed them to regroup there (turnover, td, run out of time)?

[disneyspy]

holy shit,where the hell has this seahawks team been all year?

[TripleSkeet]

Neither can. Hence the reason I picked Seattle to at least keep it within 10.5. I still think when it comes down to it, Brees will pull it out versus Hassleback even if at home.

We'll see. Lynch needs to get the ball more though.

Yea, 10 1/2 was a lock. I took them winning outright.

[cougarjake13]

i can't wait for the jets to lose tonight.

neither can i

as a giants fan i never really hated the jets and usually would watch them bc thats the only game we'd get living in new york


but my next door neighbor is a jets fan and has been talking shit since the giants got eliminated so i hope peyton throws 5 td's tonight and the jets only get a field goal

[epo]

Is Seattle trying to shit the bed?

[cougarjake13]

Is Seattle trying to shit the bed?



on purpose no but on the last possession 3 passes 15 seconds off clock and punt doesnt help u win

[underdog]

HOLY SHIT WHAT A FUCKING RUN!

Are you kidding me!?!?!

[HBox]

Now THAT'S what I call tackling.

[Justice4all]

I Can't Believe I Just Saw That!
Holy Shit!

[epo]

What a great run by Lynch.

Good night New Orleans.

[underdog]

That shit just gave me goosebumps like DeSean Jackson's punt return for the win. And I'm not a fan of either team. Unbelievable.

[hanso]

That should just about do it. Brees looked flat last week. I don't see a comeback here with apx 3 1/2 minutes left.

[spoon]

holy shit,where the hell has this seahawks team been all year?

They only do this at home buddy, that's where.

[spoon]

Yea, 10 1/2 was a lock. I took them winning outright.

I thought NO would pull out a close one in the end, but it wasn't out of the realm of possibility. I'm not really that surprised too after both Ivory and Thomas went down. Still thought NO would pull it out though.

[spoon]

What a great run by Lynch.

Good night New Orleans.

Your boys really should have picked him up. I think it's the piece that kills GB's overall shot. Yet again, this year is WIDE open.

[cougarjake13]

I thought NO would pull out a close one in the end, but it wasn't out of the realm of possibility. I'm not really that surprised too after both Ivory and Thomas went down. Still thought NO would pull it out though.



same here


i would love to see a 10-9 team in super bowl

[spoon]

shit just gave me goosebumps

Modquote?

[underdog]

Way to go Seattle! One more win and you'll be at .500!

[epo]

Your boys really should have picked him up. I think it's the piece that kills GB's overall shot. Yet again, this year is WIDE open.

Their running game is a serious problem, but despite that amazing run Lynch has been garbage in Seattle.

[epo]

Modquote?

That would imply that we have mods who care.

[hanso]

I have pulled for underdog teams for the most part. With the record the seahawks got in with. Makes me wonder if a team with a losing record has made it far into the playoffs, if at all.

[cougarjake13]

That would imply that we have mods who care.

i was gonna say theres still mods ?

[underdog]

I have pulled for underdog teams for the most part. With the record the seahawks got in with. Makes me wonder if a team with a losing record has made it far into the playoffs, if at all.

I appreciate it.

[hanso]

Your boys really should have picked him up. I think it's the piece that kills GB's overall shot. Yet again, this year is WIDE open.

Dunno the Pats look strong.

[Ritalin]

Step one: complete
Step two: Packers beat Eagles.

Step three: Bears beat Seahawks
Step four: Packers beat Falcons

Then Pack comes to Soldiers Field to settle things once and for all.

[epo]

Step one: complete
Step two: Packers beat Eagles.

Step three: Bears beat Seahawks
Step four: Packers beat Falcons

Then Pack comes to Soldiers Field to settle things once and for all.

I would love such a scenario as I believe we can all count on the diabetic retard to fuck up in the limelight.

[cougarjake13]

I have pulled for underdog teams for the most part. With the record the seahawks got in with. Makes me wonder if a team with a losing record has made it far into the playoffs, if at all.

no cause this is the first year a team with a losing record ever made the playoffs

[sailor]

i'd love to see a 7-9 team win the super bowl. seattle has to be hoping for chicago and their mediocre-in-his-wildest-dreams qb.

[Crispy123]

I would love such a scenario as I believe we can all count on the diabetic retard to fuck up in the limelight.

Is this a shot at Fez? Cause thats not cool.

[Ritalin]

I would love such a scenario as I believe we can all count on the diabetic retard to fuck up in the limelight.

You mean the Division Champion diabetic retard, right?

You just make sure to get the communion wafer brittle quarterback through the next two games.

[Ritalin]

Santonio Holmes is an idiot.

Bad challenge.

[TripleSkeet]

This should cost Indy a timeout. Nice.

[cougarjake13]

Santonio Holmes is an idiot.

Bad challenge.

yeh if your not gonna catch it then walk the fuck away


i fucking used to hate when rw mcquarters would do that on giants and then try to pick it up like he was gonna fool everyone

[sailor]

You mean the Division Champion diabetic retard, right?

You just make sure to get the communion wafer brittle quarterback through the next two games.

both your qb's have missed just one game over the past three years.

[epo]

Thats quite an offensive series by the Jets.

[cougarjake13]

Thats quite an offensive series by the Jets.

it was very offensive

[epo]

both your qb's have missed just one game over the past three years.

Shh! Bears fans don't understand facts or science.

[underdog]

So, when does LT leave with an "injury"? I'm guessing if it's a close game in the 4th quarter, that's when his hamstring starts "acting up".

Also, there has never been anything worse than the saying "THE Ohio State University". People shouldn't brag about Ohio ever.

[spoon]

Their running game is a serious problem, but despite that amazing run Lynch has been garbage in Seattle.

I reallize that, but it's more due to the line and offense being led by Whitehurst and Mike Williams, versus Lynch's ability as you saw on that run alone.

I think he would have been solid and a HUGE piece for GB.

[spoon]

That would imply that we have mods who care.

Yah the best one just left.

[spoon]

Dunno the Pats look strong.

BJGE is WAY better than anything GB is working with right now. Khun is a great short yardage guy, but can't carry a load. Jackson is just a hard worker and a much better 3rd down back if that. If GB makes a run, it'll be through the air or a young guy like Nance or Starks will come of age in my mind.

[spoon]

I would love such a scenario as I believe we can all count on the diabetic retard to fuck up in the limelight.

I'd be fine with that too, even if Cutler would get too far in the playoffs for my liking. Fuck that mush mouthed sweet blooded cunt.

[spoon]

i'd love to see a 7-9 team win the super bowl. seattle has to be hoping for chicago and their mediocre-in-his-wildest-dreams qb.

LOVE the AFC West hate out here on the EC!

[jauble]

Fuck, do something offense.

[spoon]

Is this a shot at Fez? Cause thats not cool.

HA! And by limelight do you mean this?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZPbHPL9RExAOCD9e8EMuAWCIisXUWg 1iJDQP2IzGwJFCF7FOr1w

[epo]

BJGE is WAY better than anything GB is working with right now. Khun is a great short yardage guy, but can't carry a load. Jackson is just a hard worker and a much better 3rd down back if that. If GB makes a run, it'll be through the air or a young guy like Nance or Starks will come of age in my mind.

If somebody got hot it would be Starks. Nance is tough but doesn't have good vision, whereas Starks has a bunch of potential to bust out.

[epo]

Good thing I'm not participating in a Mark Sanchez "thats a poor pass" drinking game.

[underdog]

I wish both of these teams could lose.

[cougarjake13]

I wish both of these teams could lose.

well we could have a never ending game where it remains 0-0

[cougarjake13]

So, when does LT leave with an "injury"? I'm guessing if it's a close game in the 4th quarter, that's when his hamstring starts "acting up".

Also, there has never been anything worse than the saying "THE Ohio State University". People shouldn't brag about Ohio ever.

to say it that way almost makes it sound like theres an imposter ohio state

[spoon]

So, when does LT leave with an "injury"? I'm guessing if it's a close game in the 4th quarter, that's when his hamstring starts "acting up".


This is such bullshit it's comical. By acting up do you mean the injury he had surgery on in the offseason and had to miss camp for too? I'm not even a fan now of course but this is garbage to me. Yah, the guy battles through every regular season and then can't handle the pain in the playoffs and is afraid. Sure.

He played NE twice in the postseason:

2006 LT 23 carries for 123 yards and 5.35 YPC with 2 TDs 2 catches / 64 yards
2007 LT got reinjured the week before and was never the same. It's what happens in the NFL when you get to that 30 mark.

[spoon]

I wish both of these teams could lose.

Finally we agree...and just give it two weeks.

[cougarjake13]

This is such bullshit it's comical. By acting up do you mean the injury he had surgery on in the offseason and had to miss camp for too? I'm not even a fan now of course but this is garbage to me. Yah, the guy battles through every regular season and then can't handle the pain in the playoffs and is afraid. Sure.

He played NE twice in the postseason:

2006 LT 23 carries for 123 yards and 5.35 YPC with 2 TDs 2 catches / 64 yards
2007 LT got reinjured the week before and was never the same. It's what happens in the NFL when you get to that 30 mark.

i think he's referring to that playoff game where he didnt play after half time

[jauble]

I understand the Indy hate (I guess) but can we all agree that Rex Ryan is a cunt?

[sailor]

LOVE the AFC West hate out here on the EC!

fuck 'em.

[cougarjake13]

I understand the Indy hate (I guess) but can we all agree that Rex Ryan is a cunt?

i dont hate indy



hes not so much a cunt


hes comical fodder

[jauble]

Garcon!

[Dudeman]

That shit just gave me goosebumps like DeSean Jackson's punt return for the win. And I'm not a fan of either team. Unbelievable.

Ah, the good old days of Marshawn and Desean as teammates giving a beatdown to stanford

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/35/64993972_2b6b3721a2.jpg

[underdog]

I understand the Indy hate (I guess) but can we all agree that Rex Ryan is a cunt?

indy hate explained (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/01/hater%E2%80%99s-guide-to-the-postseason-indianapolis-colts-afc-3rd-seed.html)

I'd rather the Jets win just to hear Rex for another week, and I'm a Patriots fan.

[Crispy123]

Garcon!

garcon means boy.

http://www.premiere.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/pulp-fiction3/584260-1-eng-US/Pulp-Fiction.jpg

[jauble]

indy hate explained (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/01/hater%E2%80%99s-guide-to-the-postseason-indianapolis-colts-afc-3rd-seed.html)

I'd rather the Jets win just to hear Rex for another week, and I'm a Patriots fan.

Thats what I was basing my I guess point off of...love drew.

[epo]

Cromartie Island!

[epo]

Nice pass Sanchez...

[jauble]

Cromartie Island!

Even Natalee Holloway could get off that island.

[cougarjake13]

stupid throw by snachez

[epo]

Sanchize!

[razorboy]

HA.

[spoon]

Nice toss!

Sanchez has been all over the place with his throws! Almost everything is overthrown.

[hanso]

http://img.youtube.com/vi/rX7wtNOkuHo/default.jpg?h=60&w=80&sigh=__M5R3o-oFq2ObYM-UM_WrihRphSM=

Ha Ha!

[spoon]

One thing I am worried about is how shitty Indy's punter has been. Sure it could be worse, but I'm not happy with his short punts early on.

Jaub's is he usually this shaky?

[jauble]

One thing I am worried about is how shitty Indy's punter has been. Sure it could be worse, but I'm not happy with his short punts early on.

Jaub's is he usually this shaky?

No usually he is spot on. Maybe he needs a beer and a dip in the canal to relax himself.

[hanso]

I reallize that, but it's more due to the line and offense being led by Whitehurst and Mike Williams, versus Lynch's ability as you saw on that run alone.

I think he would have been solid and a HUGE piece for GB.

Mike Williams is one hell of a WR. I look forward to the next game. Where my guess is he will be used more.

[spoon]

Even Natalee Holloway could get off that island.

OUCH!

Well let's be fair, Vandersloot has some speed. Here's the kicks he made famous.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3376/3328301616_399401525a.jpg

[Dudeman]

I reallize that, but it's more due to the line and offense being led by Whitehurst and Mike Williams, versus Lynch's ability as you saw on that run alone.

I think he would have been solid and a HUGE piece for GB.

agree. and for those not familiar with lynch, here is his prior epic stiff arms in college versus oregon

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2006/10/08/sp_calbears_0456_kr.jpg

http://www.yardbarker.com/media/c/7/c7780966d9736816247a259aa8b61192868561f0/xl/marshawn_stiff_arm_2.jpg

[jauble]

Sanchez is looking really iffy tonight, Indy needs a good 3 and out or turnover to start off the half and put some quick points on the board. Let Freeney and Mathis get to him to put it away.

[spoon]

How the hell can we expect Cromartie to cover anyone when he can't even cover himself?


http://ftrsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/antonio-cromartie.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/359/182/CromartiePlusSeven2_display_image.jpg?1282684880

[epo]

Really nice drive by the Jets.

[jauble]

Sanchez is looking really iffy tonight, Indy needs a good 3 and out or turnover to start off the half and put some quick points on the board. Let Freeney and Mathis get to him to put it away.

Or do the exact opposite.

[spoon]

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Pretty sure it's 8 now too.

[spoon]

http://nbcoutofbounds.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/cromartiesweatband.jpg?w=450&h=263

[spoon]

Or do the exact opposite.

Yah, WTF Jaubs!?

[cougarjake13]

Nice toss!

Sanchez has been all over the place with his throws! Almost everything is overthrown.

he must be watching too much of eli

[jauble]

Well fuck...

[hanso]

Fireman Ed was shown, now the bad luck starts.

[epo]

Another nice drive by the Jets.

[cougarjake13]

Fireman Ed was shown, now the bad luck starts.

they showed him earlier and they scored the first td

[Justice4all]

Wow that was damn close to a P.I. call

[underdog]

Peyton Manning really likes leaving his receivers defenseless over the middle.

[Snacks]

Wow that was damn close to a P.I. call

that was PI they just didnt call it!

[jauble]

that was PI they just didnt call it!

Collinsworth is an ass.

[Justice4all]

Sanchez has been all over the place with his throws! Almost everything is overthrown.


Eli? Is that you?

[jauble]

Peyton Manning really likes leaving his white receivers defenseless over the middle.

fixed

[Justice4all]

Say what you want...but the Jets took it to Indy.
And all with Sanchez playing like crap.

[Justice4all]

HOW DOES HE DROP THAT BALL???

Oh shit he might have cost the Jets the game!


Edt: Merry Fucking christmas Jets...you got a HUGE gift with that Penalty!!

[spoon]

wow, wtf man!?

[epo]

For that penalty the Colts deserve to lose.

[jauble]

Fuck

[spoon]

that was PI they just didnt call it!


Yah, big no call. Cris, what the fuck are you thinking on ur explanation of it?

[spoon]

For that penalty the Colts deserve to lose.

That doesn't mean I want it to happen though.

[spoon]

Stop Fucking Showing That Asshole Clown!

[jauble]

Let him kick the fucking ball this time.

[Justice4all]

All they needed was to make a 1st down. Why go for the long bomb when your QB is not having a good night?

Wow what a stupid call!

[underdog]

fixed

:lol:

[cougarjake13]

here comes peytons chance

[cougarjake13]

All they needed was to make a 1st down. Why go for the long bomb when your QB is not having a good night?

Wow what a stupid call!

very stupid at very least run or short pass that keeps clock running

[epo]

Who in the fuck calls a bomb on 3rd & 5 with Sanchez at QB?

[spoon]

WTF are the Jets thinking?! Just run over him from behind (Tamme), bc it's legal according to Collinsworth!

[epo]

All they needed was to make a 1st down. Why go for the long bomb when your QB is not having a good night?

Wow what a stupid call!

He's not having a good career.

[jauble]

I'm starting to get nervous...


oh look booze!

[spoon]

All they needed was to make a 1st down. Why go for the long bomb when your QB is not having a good night?

Wow what a stupid call!

No having a good night!? How about being shitty his whole career! You really don't know what you have in Eli if you think this isn't the norm with Sanchize!

[Justice4all]

Stop Fucking Showing That Asshole Clown!

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/08/alg_jets_fireman-ed.jpg
"You wish you were as hot as me"

I am starting to agree with everyone. You'd think that guy was a fucking member of the team!
Next thing you know he'll be leading them out to the field.

I honestly can't think of any other teams that have a 'super fan' like that.
Most of them just have a normal mascot.

[cougarjake13]

He's not having a good career.

personally no

but his team has made back to back playoffs with an afc championship app last year

[spoon]

He's not having a good career.

Ha! Nice work Eps! :innocent:

[cougarjake13]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/08/alg_jets_fireman-ed.jpg
"You wish you were as hot as me"

I am starting to agree with everyone. You'd think that guy was a fucking member of the team!
Next thing you know he'll be leading them out to the field.

I honestly can't think of any other teams that have a 'super fan' like that.
Most of them just have a normal mascot.

i think it was something with 9-11 and him being a fireman or something


that and i think he started the chant or something





also maybe spike lee with knicks or jack with lakers as super fans ??

[spoon]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/08/alg_jets_fireman-ed.jpg
"You wish you were as hot as me"

I am starting to agree with everyone. You'd think that guy was a fucking member of the team!
Next thing you know he'll be leading them out to the field.

I honestly can't think of any other teams that have a 'super fan' like that.
Most of them just have a normal mascot.

You should be ashamed with yourself rooting for the Jets let alone every post you ever made...except that one!

[Justice4all]

No having a good night!? How about being shitty his whole career! You really don't know what you have in Eli if you think this isn't the norm with Sanchize!

yes I was being a little TOO kind. Let's just say both NY teams might do well to go QB shopping during the draft.

[jauble]

shit shit shit shit

[Justice4all]

You should be ashamed with yourself rooting for the Jets let alone every post you ever made...except that one!

Because I'm rooting for the Jets doesn't mean I like EVERYTHING about them

[jauble]

Thank God we have that number 4 not the Minnesota one.

[Justice4all]

MONEY strikes again!

[cougarjake13]

yes I was being a little TOO kind. Let's just say both NY teams might do well to go QB shopping during the draft.

he was saying eli's good

[spoon]

yes I was being a little TOO kind. Let's just say both NY teams might do well to go QB shopping during the draft.

WHAT?!

Wow you aren't giving up on this Eli thing huh?

:wacko:

[cougarjake13]

too quick to post


was gonna say they need a good return here


now they just need sanchize not to fuck up

[Justice4all]

That was a fumble and then recovered. That shouldn't be overturned.

[spoon]

too quick to post


was gonna say they need a good return here


now they just need sanchize not to fuck up

Ha!

[Justice4all]

WHAT?!

Wow you aren't giving up on this Eli thing huh?

:wacko:


Never!
Tell ya what...I'll give up on the Eli thing when you give up on the Norm thing.

[jauble]

Fuck...................

Come on Sanchize

[spoon]

Never!
Tell ya what...I'll give up on the Eli thing when you give up on the Norm thing.

Norm?

I'll never end my crusade to get Norm that liver he needs! Fuck you!

[Justice4all]

Have to admit....I wouldn't trust the Jets' kicker like I would Money.
I can understand why they just want to get as close as they can to the end zone.

[cougarjake13]

WHAT?!

Wow you aren't giving up on this Eli thing huh?

:wacko:

he doesnt speak for all giants fans


me personally here is my take



is eli great ?? no

will he be a hall of famer ?? maybe


is he the best qb we have had since phil simms ?? hell fucking yes


hes not dave brown, kent graham, danny kanell, jesse palmer or kerry collins


also he led the giants to 4 straight postseasons something simms never did
and last 2 years that we didnt make it we had the opportunity to its not like we were 5-11




bring plax back and all those overthrows he keeps throwing like plax is still out there will go down hopefully if plax is still capable of playing like he did and all of sudden he'll look awesome again and current giants fans down on him will be sucking his cock again

[Justice4all]

Norm?

I'll never end my crusade to get Norm that liver he needs! Fuck you!

Sorry....typo...NorV

[spoon]

This pretty much sucks.

Unless they get Kaedingd!

[cougarjake13]

Never!
Tell ya what...I'll give up on the Eli thing when you give up on the Norm thing.




he at least has a basis for his norm hatred

[jauble]

Goddamnit................


Lets go Pens.

[Justice4all]

he doesnt speak for all giants fans


me personally here is my take



is eli great ?? no

will he be a hall of famer ?? maybe


is he the best qb we have had since phil simms ?? hell fucking yes


hes not dave brown, kent graham, danny kanell, jesse palmer or kerry collins


also he led the giants to 4 straight postseasons something simms never did
and last 2 years that we didnt make it we had the opportunity to its not like we were 5-11




bring plax back and all those overthrows he keeps throwing like plax is still out there will go down hopefully if plax is still capable of playing like he did and all of sudden he'll look awesome again and current giants fans down on him will be sucking his cock again


MAYBE? How about NO!
wow...CJ are you falling for the Hype?


How about forget Plax and LEARN TO NOT OVERTHROW YOUR RECEIVERS!
(then again...prison did wonders for Vick...)
Ok...ok...ok....I won't start...until next year.


Good win by the Jets...glad to see them move on to see the Pats. I hope they play giant killer and move onto the AFC Championship.

[underdog]

Did you see the range of expressions on Caldwell's face? That man is full of emotion!

I found out today that I hate the Colts more than I hate the Jets.

[HBox]

Good game.

[spoon]

he doesnt speak for all giants fans


me personally here is my take



is eli great ?? no

will he be a hall of famer ?? maybe


is he the best qb we have had since phil simms ?? hell fucking yes


hes not dave brown, kent graham, danny kanell, jesse palmer or kerry collins


also he led the giants to 4 straight postseasons something simms never did
and last 2 years that we didnt make it we had the opportunity to its not like we were 5-11




bring plax back and all those overthrows he keeps throwing like plax is still out there will go down hopefully if plax is still capable of playing like he did and all of sudden he'll look awesome again and current giants fans down on him will be sucking his cock again

Now that is logical and sane. Talk to Justice please. I guess he sees a better qb in the draft that won't be ready to play for years anyway. Shit, Luck isn't even in it either.

[cougarjake13]

Fuck...................

Come on Sanchize



hey you know the cubs got matt garza right ??

[jauble]

MAYBE? How about NO!
wow...CJ are you falling for the Hype?


How about forget Plax and LEARN TO NOT OVERTHROW YOUR RECEIVERS!

Ok...ok...ok....I won't start...until next year.


Good win by the Jets...glad to see them move on to see the Pats. I hope they play giant killer and move onto the AFC Championship.

I thought you were moving on from Eli

[cougarjake13]

MAYBE? How about NO!
wow...CJ are you falling for the Hype?


How about forget Plax and LEARN TO NOT OVERTHROW YOUR RECEIVERS!

Ok...ok...ok....I won't start...until next year.


Good win by the Jets...glad to see them move on to see the Pats. I hope they play giant killer and move onto the AFC Championship.




i left it as a maybe bc he is putting up some decent td's and passing yards numbers
has a pretty good record as a starter
and if hes lucky a second ring might be enough to get him in

[HBox]

Did they think that would get people to watch Jimmy Fallon?

[Justice4all]

Only downside to this is one is we have one more week of this douche....

http://goldmedalimpressions.com/products/F1376065.jpg

[epo]

Eli is maybe a Hall of Famer? I like Eli, but that's some funny shit.

[spoon]

MAYBE? How about NO!
wow...CJ are you falling for the Hype?


How about forget Plax and LEARN TO NOT OVERTHROW YOUR RECEIVERS!
(then again...prison did wonders for Vick...)
Ok...ok...ok....I won't start...until next year.


Good win by the Jets...glad to see them move on to see the Pats. I hope they play giant killer and move onto the AFC Championship.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that you HATE a qb that was a huge part of multiple playoff runs and a SB or your crossover love for a team that is not only disgusting to listen to or watch in the news, but hates your organization.

[Snacks]

I was talking to my cousin for the last 5 minutes of this game. I said exactly how this game would end because Cladwell is one of the worst head coaches in the league. He is another Tony Dungy. Too calm, no balls and no idea how to manage a game.

Im sorry but Manning deserves better! This team should have 3 or 4 more rings. Yes Manning made some mistakes through out those years but Im sorry this teams problems have always been with coaching. Every year they prove it!

Now there are 3 teams I dont want to see in the SB left from the AFC. NYJ, NE and Pitts. The only hope of one of those teams not going has to be Balt!

[cougarjake13]

Now that is logical and sane. Talk to Justice please. I guess he sees a better qb in the draft that won't be ready to play for years anyway. Shit, Luck isn't even in it either.

believe me theres a ton of giants fans i know that are just like justice


theres one guy at the giants bar i go to that screams that we coulda had rivers or big ben everytime eli does something wrong or makes that stupid face eli makes

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jesus Christ.

[Ritalin]

Man, Folk is shaky.

[cougarjake13]

Eli is maybe a Hall of Famer? I like Eli, but that's some funny shit.

not now


read my above post

[Justice4all]

Now that is logical and sane. Talk to Justice please. I guess he sees a better qb in the draft that won't be ready to play for years anyway. Shit, Luck isn't even in it either.

Spoon I never thought the draft has a QB worthy to start in the NFL. But I am thinking long term.
I just have to deal with the fact that Eli isn't going anywhere for the time being.




























Doesn't mean I have to like it.


Have fun with NORV next year!:devil2:

[Snacks]

I don't know what's worse, the fact that you HATE a qb that was a huge part of multiple playoff runs and a SB or your crossover love for a team that is not only disgusting to listen to or watch in the news, but hates your organization.

:clap::clap::clap:

[cougarjake13]

I was talking to my cousin for the last 5 minutes of this game. I said exactly how this game would end because Cladwell is one of the worst head coaches in the league. He is another Tony Dungy. Too calm, no balls and no idea how to manage a game.

Im sorry but Manning deserves better! This team should have 3 or 4 more rings. Yes Manning made some mistakes through out those years but Im sorry this teams problems have always been with coaching. Every year they prove it!

Now there are 3 teams I dont want to see in the SB left from the AFC. NYJ, NE and Pitts. The only hope of one of those teams not going has to be Balt!



no love for the chiefs huh ??

[Justice4all]

I don't know what's worse, the fact that you HATE a qb that was a huge part of multiple playoff runs and a SB or your crossover love for a team that is not only disgusting to listen to or watch in the news, but hates your organization.

Once again "Because I'm rooting for the Jets doesn't mean I like EVERYTHING about them"

And we all have our opinions about the Jets. I never hated them. Only when they face the Giants.


Yes, I'm THAT guy.
Deal with it.

[cougarjake13]

Spoon I never thought the draft has a QB worthy to start in the NFL. But I am thinking long term.
I just have to deal with the fact that Eli isn't going anywhere for the time being.




























Doesn't mean I have to like it.


Have fun with NORV next year!:devil2:



time being ??


unless he dies or gets a career ending injury


HE'S A FUCKING GIANT FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS !!!!!!!!!

[epo]

not now


read my above post

I think the rest of your post is logical and makes perfect sense. But honestly unless Eli elevates his play he shouldn't be in a serious HOF discussion.

[Snacks]

no love for the chiefs huh ??

out of the 5 team left in the AFC playoffs the only team left that can beat the 3 teams I dont want to win will be Balt. Nothing against KC but I dont think they could beat NE or Pitt to get into the SB.

[cougarjake13]

wow howd i miss this



Giants head coach Tom Coughlin has a message for his critics: 'They can line up and kiss my a**'

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2011/01/06/2011-01-06_giants_head_coach_tom_coughlin_has_a_message_fo r_his_critics_they_can_line_up_an.html#ixzz1AVZX5v dv



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[Justice4all]

believe me theres a ton of giants fans i know that are just like justice


theres one guy at the giants bar i go to that screams that we coulda had rivers or big ben everytime eli does something wrong or makes that stupid face eli makes

So he yells at the TV like, 15 out of 16 games?

Come on everyone...we all know way more people who think like me about Eli.
just admit it.

Hey I COULD be wrong but when you have 38 INTs over the last two years...when you should be way better then that....all signs point to NO.

[spoon]

Eli is maybe a Hall of Famer? I like Eli, but that's some funny shit.

I think he means it's still in the realm of possibility. He does have an SB, multiple pro-bowls, the biggest SB upset of all-time and the Manning name to carry him. Do you really think it's such a long shot? Come on, Namath got in so it's not even that far fetched. Hell Eli is about to surpass all of Namath's offensive stats in only his 8th year in the league (not all starting fully). And Justice take note here, the one stat that differs in a HUGE way is interceptions.

Eli's td/int ratio 156/113
Namath's is 170/215

[cougarjake13]

I think the rest of your post is logical and makes perfect sense. But honestly unless Eli elevates his play he shouldn't be in a serious HOF discussion.

no he shouldnt but if he compiles enough stats and somehow gets a 2nd ring it might be enough, operative word being might

[Justice4all]

wow howd i miss this



Giants head coach Tom Coughlin has a message for his critics: 'They can line up and kiss my a**'

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2011/01/06/2011-01-06_giants_head_coach_tom_coughlin_has_a_message_fo r_his_critics_they_can_line_up_an.html#ixzz1AVZX5v dv
Wow.
"Outstanding. Outstanding finish to the ballgame," Coughlin said in the speech, which was captured by cameras and aired on Showtime's "Inside the NFL." "We did our part, OK? That's all I can ask you to do. Hey, from the bottom of my heart and everybody's, we have a 10-6 season. A 10-win season in the NFL, OK? They can kiss my a--, OK? They can line up and kiss my a--. It's not an easy thing to do."


Hey Tom...you didn't DO YOUR PART.
If you had beaten the Eagles or Packers then you would have.
God DAMN is he clueless. Trying to make it seem like there is something good to come from letting the playoffs slip through their fingers not once but TWICE in a season?

Wow...just....wow.
Snoogs...where are you right now? Back me up on this one.
CJ?
Anyone?

[Snoogans]

Wow.
"Outstanding. Outstanding finish to the ballgame," Coughlin said in the speech, which was captured by cameras and aired on Showtime's "Inside the NFL." "We did our part, OK? That's all I can ask you to do. Hey, from the bottom of my heart and everybody's, we have a 10-6 season. A 10-win season in the NFL, OK? They can kiss my a--, OK? They can line up and kiss my a--. It's not an easy thing to do."


Hey Tom...you didn't DO YOUR PART.
If you had beaten the Eagles or Packers then you would have.
God DAMN is he clueless. Trying to make it seem like there is something good to come from letting the playoffs slip through their fingers not once but TWICE in a season?

Wow...just....wow.
Snoogs...where are you right now? Back me up on this one.
CJ?
Anyone?

you want me to back you up on coughlin being a moron? Ive said that for like 6 years

[Justice4all]

:clap::clap::clap:

relax douche....you still root for Miami. You have NOTHING to be proud of in the last 20+ years.

[spoon]

Once again "Because I'm rooting for the Jets doesn't mean I like EVERYTHING about them"

And we all have our opinions about the Jets. I never hated them. Only when they face the Giants.


Yes, I'm THAT guy.
Deal with it.

Thanks Taylor!

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[Justice4all]

Thanks Taylor!

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Only someone as gay as you could find something as gay as that!

[cougarjake13]

So he yells at the TV like, 15 out of 16 games?

Come on everyone...we all know way more people who think like me about Eli.
just admit it.

Hey I COULD be wrong but when you have 38 INTs over the last two years...when you should be way better then that....all signs point to NO.

not only 15 outta 16 but all game long

if eli walks to the huddle too slow he yells

and esp everytime he over throws a reciever, the tipped int's, the wr running a diff route and eli doesnt recognize and throws where he thinks where the wr should be

etc etc etc



and i already did admit

id say that its prob about 70 -30 amongst giants fans who hate eli





but i dont fucking care how shitty he is for the rest of his career



he won a fucking super bowl for us, i was 9 and 13 when they won the first 2 and couldnt really enjoy it as i could now as an adult


and it was because of him we won ...



doesnt get outta that sack ... game over we lose

doesnt get the ball close enough to tyree to make that incredible catch .... game over we lose


doesnt get the ball to plax for touchdown and yep you guessed it ... game over we lose

[cougarjake13]

Wow.
"Outstanding. Outstanding finish to the ballgame," Coughlin said in the speech, which was captured by cameras and aired on Showtime's "Inside the NFL." "We did our part, OK? That's all I can ask you to do. Hey, from the bottom of my heart and everybody's, we have a 10-6 season. A 10-win season in the NFL, OK? They can kiss my a--, OK? They can line up and kiss my a--. It's not an easy thing to do."


Hey Tom...you didn't DO YOUR PART.
If you had beaten the Eagles or Packers then you would have.
God DAMN is he clueless. Trying to make it seem like there is something good to come from letting the playoffs slip through their fingers not once but TWICE in a season?

Wow...just....wow.
Snoogs...where are you right now? Back me up on this one.
CJ?
Anyone?



i just thought it was funny he told them to kiss his ass and they printed that as the story header


thats all

[Justice4all]

you want me to back you up on coughlin being a moron? Ive said that for like 6 years

Ok...I think he's an idiot for saying "we did our part" but overall...not AS bad as that.

I just wish he could have more seasons without a Nov/Dec. collapse.

[spoon]

out of the 5 team left in the AFC playoffs the only team left that can beat the 3 teams I dont want to win will be Balt. Nothing against KC but I dont think they could beat NE or Pitt to get into the SB.

Their record isn't even as good as it looks, as is the case for the past few years in that division, only it's worse this year. They play in the ultra shitty AFC West, we all know that. However, their cross-conference division foe this year was, you guessed it, the all powerful NFC WEST!

KC is fucked, but still at least won the shit division unlike my or Sailor's shitty teams.

[cougarjake13]

you want me to back you up on coughlin being a moron? Ive said that for like 6 years

he is


if not for the super bowl run and win he'd be gone



and i can only hope that cowher told the giants he isnt coming here so dont fire your guy

thats the only reason while i'll accept that coughlin is still coach

[Justice4all]

not only 15 outta 16 but all game long

if eli walks to the huddle too slow he yells

and esp everytime he over throws a reciever, the tipped int's, the wr running a diff route and eli doesnt recognize and throws where he thinks where the wr should be

etc etc etc



and i already did admit

id say that its prob about 70 -30 amongst giants fans who hate eli





but i dont fucking care how shitty he is for the rest of his career



he won a fucking super bowl for us, i was 9 and 13 when they won the first 2 and couldnt really enjoy it as i could now as an adult


and it was because of him we won ...



doesnt get outta that sack ... game over we lose

doesnt get the ball close enough to tyree to make that incredible catch .... game over we lose


doesnt get the ball to plax for touchdown and yep you guessed it ... game over we lose


CJ what I am taking from this is...you would allow 3 more shitty seasons with Eli just because he helped win us the SB 3 years ago.

Am I right or wrong on this?

[cougarjake13]

Their record isn't even as good as it looks, as is the case for the past few years in that division, only it's worse this year. They play in the ultra shitty AFC West, we all know that. However, their cross-conference division foe this year was, you guessed it, the all powerful NFC WEST!

KC is fucked, but still at least won the shit division unlike my or Sailor's shitty teams.




im pretty sure a lotta people said seattle is fucked


and look what happened there



so you never know

[spoon]

So he yells at the TV like, 15 out of 16 games?

Come on everyone...we all know way more people who think like me about Eli.
just admit it.

Hey I COULD be wrong but when you have 38 INTs over the last two years...when you should be way better then that....all signs point to NO.

Yes Tom, there are a LOT of idiotic New York sports fans out there. Everyone knows this much.

[Justice4all]

time being ??


unless he dies or gets a career ending injury


HE'S A FUCKING GIANT FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS !!!!!!!!!



Well another 2 seasons of 20+ INTs and I bet you can shave a year or two off of those 5.

[cougarjake13]

CJ what I am taking from this is...you would allow 3 more shitty seasons with Eli just because he helped win us the SB 3 years ago.

Am I right or wrong on this?




would i allow it ?? no


but if it happens, so be it at that point we realize that he was just trent dilfer and we move on or draft someone to take over



im just saying that too many fans hate the fuck outta the guy and act like it was jared lorenzen who won us the super bowl



say he sucks and that hes no good but dont ignore that he won a super bowl for us

[cougarjake13]

Well another 2 seasons of 20+ INTs and I bet you can shave a year or two off of those 5.



if were at least 9-7 or better and close to or make the playoffs those years


it wont matter if he keeps throwing 20 plus int's

[Justice4all]

Yes Tom, there are a LOT of idiotic New York sports fans out there. Everyone knows this much.

http://digitalchaos.us/avatar/hold/yawn.gif

[Justice4all]

if were at least 9-7 or better and close to or make the playoffs those years


it wont matter if he keeps throwing 20 plus int's

See that's where I think you're wrong.

9-7 and JUST missing the playoffs, or getting in and not getting past the 1st round doesn't justify hanging on to your QB.

You need someone who makes the playoffs and WINS those games.

9-7 and close to the playoffs most of the time? Sorry...time to move to greener pastures.

And don't be so easy to overlook 20+ Int seasons. If he can't improve his mechanics to avoid those, that's a serious flaw you can't just ignore.

[spoon]

im pretty sure a lotta people said seattle is fucked


and look what happened there



so you never know

I think A LOT of people gave Seattle a good chance to win bc NO was really banged up and played like shit last week missing those key guys. Also, it's NEVER easy to play in Seattle. Although, playing in KC is pretty tough as well. I just don't believe in them right now based on my knowledge of the team. They can win this week bc Baltimore is on the road and not as good on D like in the past, yet they won't go further. Heck I doubt they go on at all even with home field adv.

[Justice4all]

would i allow it ?? no


but if it happens, so be it at that point we realize that he was just trent dilfer and we move on or draft someone to take over



im just saying that too many fans hate the fuck outta the guy and act like it was jared lorenzen who won us the super bowl



say he sucks and that hes no good but dont ignore that he won a super bowl for us

Cj....from my perspective HE didn't win us that game. He was a big part I will admit THAT much, but the WR's, running attack and, above all, the defense were as big if not BIGGER reasons.

Sorry man we're just not going to agree with this one.

Let's stick to playoff football, I am sure everyone else is sick of this Eli-hating from me on here. (or anywhere for that matter)

[Snacks]

relax douche....you still root for Miami. You have NOTHING to be proud of in the last 20+ years.

Im not a fair weather fan. I support my team through it all. You seem to hate yours and love the enemy! Douche!

[cougarjake13]

See that's where I think you're wrong.

9-7 and JUST missing the playoffs, or getting in and not getting past the 1st round doesn't justify hanging on to your QB.

You need someone who makes the playoffs and WINS those games.

9-7 and close to the playoffs most of the time? Sorry...time to move to greener pastures.

And don't be so easy to overlook 20+ Int seasons. If he can't improve his mechanics to avoid those, that's a serious flaw you can't just ignore.



need i have to remind you of pre kerry collins ??


just because we change doesnt mean things will get better


and im pretty positive that unless the giants start going 6-10 or worse the next few years, eli will at the very least finish out his contract

[Snacks]

Thanks Taylor!

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how annoying was that little bitch? what ever happened to that show I though it had good ratings and was coming back for season2?

[spoon]

See that's where I think you're wrong.

9-7 and JUST missing the playoffs, or getting in and not getting past the 1st round doesn't justify hanging on to your QB.

You need someone who makes the playoffs and WINS those games.

9-7 and close to the playoffs most of the time? Sorry...time to move to greener pastures.

And don't be so easy to overlook 20+ Int seasons. If he can't improve his mechanics to avoid those, that's a serious flaw you can't just ignore.

Ok Tom, what are Eli Manning's issues with his "mechanics"? I want this and other "serious flaws" that you see without some elaborate google search to feign you have actual knowledge of said topic.

Quick now, I'm being serious.

[cougarjake13]

I think A LOT of people gave Seattle a good chance to win bc NO was really banged up and played like shit last week missing those key guys. Also, it's NEVER easy to play in Seattle. Although, playing in KC is pretty tough as well. I just don't believe in them right now based on my knowledge of the team. They can win this week bc Baltimore is on the road and not as good on D like in the past, yet they won't go further. Heck I doubt they go on at all even with home field adv.




oh yeh if they do anything theyd win this home game and thats about it

[cougarjake13]

Cj....from my perspective HE didn't win us that game. He was a big part I will admit THAT much, but the WR's, running attack and, above all, the defense were as big if not BIGGER reasons.

Sorry man we're just not going to agree with this one.

Let's stick to playoff football, I am sure everyone else is sick of this Eli-hating from me on here. (or anywhere for that matter)

thats fine but he did win us that game... on that final drive


everything that happened before that .. the wrs, rbs and defense mean nothing if eli doesnt do what he does on that final drive

[spoon]

how annoying was that little bitch? what ever happened to that show I though it had good ratings and was coming back for season2?

Yah, the show was fucking funny shit though and you pretty much nailed the reason I used it to convey Tom. He just set me perfect for anyone who caught the show to get the joke. I felt like I was playing volleyball with Karch Karai on that one.

:lol:

[Justice4all]

Im not a fair weather fan. I support my team through it all. You seem to hate yours and love the enemy! Douche!

Ok listen up King-of-all-homers...I NEVER STOP supporting my team..good OR bad.
I was there in 3-12-1 seasons...8-8 seasons (following a super bowl win) and 12-4 seasons.
Because I root for them with all my heart gives me the right to be critical as well as supportive.
And since WHEN are the Jets the 'enemy'? Maybe for a Miami fan!
Dallas, Eagles, 49ers, even Chicago. THOSE would be my enemies.

[Justice4all]

Ok Tom, what are Eli Manning's issues with his "mechanics"? I want this and other "serious flaws" that you see without some elaborate google search to feign you have actual knowledge of said topic.

Quick now, I'm being serious.

his overthrows.
His constant throwing into double and triple coverage.
not being able to recover from bad mistakes. (mentally)
still has problems with clock control (not all the time..he HAS gotten better with that, I will admit)
his accuracy SUCKS.

A perfect moment to emphasize what i am talking about was that shovel-pass right to the Titans player this season.
Those things should never happen to a 6 year veteran QB.
At least in MY opinion.
If Rivers ever did that you would be screaming for his head.

[spoon]

his overthrows.
Hit constant throwing into double and triple coverage.
not being able to recover from bad mistakes. (mentally)
still has problems with clock control (not all the time..he HAS gotten better with that, I will admit)
his accuracy SUCKS.

that's what I thought Tom

thanks

[Justice4all]

thats fine but he did win us that game... on that final drive


everything that happened before that .. the wrs, rbs and defense mean nothing if eli doesnt do what he does on that final drive

this is like the chicken and the egg argument.
If the defense didn't hold one of the most lethal offenses in NFL history to only 14 points in the biggest game that TD that Eli throws, that miracle catch...all means nothing.

[Justice4all]

that's what I thought Tom

thanks

Thanks for asking.
I know I might be not seeing/missing a few things here and there but those are the everyday things I always see, game in/game out

[epo]

Thanks for asking.
I know I might be not seeing/missing a few things here and there but those are the everyday things I always see, game in/game out

You completely missed Spoon's point.

[Justice4all]

You completely missed Spoon's point.

no...I got it.
just making one of my own.

We're done here.

[epo]

no...I got it.
just making one of my own.

We're done here.

You are talking out outputs, Spoon is talking about root causes.

Completely different trains of thought.

[spoon]

You are talking out outputs, Spoon is talking about root causes.

Completely different trains of thought.

He's DONE HERE!


:lol::lol::lol:

[epo]

He's DONE HERE!


:lol::lol::lol:

Jesus. There was one from tonight's Jets game.

Sanchez was overthrowing everyone, and Collinsworth pointed out that it was a fundamental problem with Sanchez dropping his elbow which caused the overthrow (and likely other issues including accuracy).

Now apply that to Justice's complaint about Eli's overthrows. How hard is that?

[spoon]

Come on Tom, there pretty much isn't a guy on NY that protected the ball this year, but I'd easily say Eli should have finished with a 30+/under 20 int year. In the first week or two alone I've never seen so many balls off wr hands, some that would have been TDs that turned into ints. This can have some effect on a qb moving forward too, so remember how this year started too. He may not have been his best this year, that I'll give you, but he did get over the TripleSkeet/Kolb line of 30 tds and that's actually pretty solid. You act like he's the issue. No, he's the guy you make slight adjustments to the his game and more precisely/importantly his decisions. Saying a guy is awful when he's at least better than half the NFL qbs you're insane.

Still waiting on that issue with his mechanics.

[Snacks]

Ok listen up King-of-all-homers...I NEVER STOP supporting my team..good OR bad.
I was there in 3-12-1 seasons...8-8 seasons (following a super bowl win) and 12-4 seasons.
Because I root for them with all my heart gives me the right to be critical as well as supportive.
And since WHEN are the Jets the 'enemy'? Maybe for a Miami fan!
Dallas, Eagles, 49ers, even Chicago. THOSE would be my enemies.

the Jets ate the NYG enemy at least most NYG fans agree.

[cougarjake13]

this is like the chicken and the egg argument.
If the defense didn't hold one of the most lethal offenses in NFL history to only 14 points in the biggest game that TD that Eli throws, that miracle catch...all means nothing.

yes i understand that

hindsight is great


but all that stuff did happen which meant eli had to do what he did for us to win



if is the biggest word in the english language


if scott norwood hits the balls a few inches left the giants only have 2 super bowl wins

[cougarjake13]

the Jets ate the NYG enemy at least most NYG fans agree.

except for the one year they beat us to keep us out of the playoffs most giants fans couldnt care less about the jets

[Justice4all]

Come on Tom, there pretty much isn't a guy on NY that protected the ball this year, but I'd easily say Eli should have finished with a 30+/under 20 int year. In the first week or two alone I've never seen so many balls off wr hands, some that would have been TDs that turned into ints. This can have some effect on a qb moving forward too, so remember how this year started too. He may not have been his best this year, that I'll give you, but he did get over the TripleSkeet/Kolb line of 30 tds and that's actually pretty solid. You act like he's the issue. No, he's the guy you make slight adjustments to the his game and more precisely/importantly his decisions. Saying a guy is awful when he's at least better than half the NFL qbs you're insane.

Still waiting on that issue with his mechanics.

Take all of the starting QB's in the league with his experience or more, and then tell me if they make the same mistakes Eli makes most of the time.

I will openly admit there were several games where the receivers couldn't buy a pair of hands to save their career. Was that Eli's fault? Absolutely not.

Ok...if you are pointing out mechanics might be the wrong word to use for my point, then fine professor, you win.

But you got my point. All the errors he makes, many should have been worked on years ago. Not 6 years later and he still makes them
He had 10 Ints in two years ago
18 last year
24 this year.
It should be the other way around.

And you are 110% correct. We had a terminal case of the turnovers this year. It was sickening.

[Justice4all]

He's DONE HERE!


:lol::lol::lol:

meaning I'd like to take the topic back on track re re

[Justice4all]

Quick question....do NFL players make bonus' for making the playoffs/winning playoff games like they would for making or winning the Super Bowl

[Tenbatsuzen]

the Jets ate the NYG enemy at least most NYG fans agree.

I have never been able to understand this. The Jets and Giants play each other for real once every four years. I have never been able to buy into the hype - and that's what it is - that giants fans hate the jets and vice versa, and Yankee fans hate the mets and vice versa.

It's all BS.

In Hockey, I can understand the rivalry. But not in football or baseball.

[sailor]

I have never been able to understand this. The Jets and Giants play each other for real once every four years. I have never been able to buy into the hype - and that's what it is - that giants fans hate the jets and vice versa, and Yankee fans hate the mets and vice versa.

It's all BS.

In Hockey, I can understand the rivalry. But not in football or baseball.

even if you don't play all the time, you still see the other fans everyday. makes total sense.

[Judge Smails]

Quick question....do NFL players make bonus' for making the playoffs/winning playoff games like they would for making or winning the Super Bowl

For the playoffs the winners and losers get the same amount (except the wild-cards get slightly less in the wildcard round). It goes up for the conference championship but still the same for winning or losing (http://www.csnbaltimore.com/pages/landing?blockID=382717&tagID=476)

This year, each Wild Card team will get $21,000 per man for a division-winning team and $19,000 for a non-division winner. When the Ravens earned their first Wild Card playoff spot 10 years ago, they got $12,500.

Participants in the divisional round will get $21,000 per man, up slightly from the $16,000 the Ravens got in 2000 when they played the Tennessee Titans and beat them in one of the most talked-about games in Ravens history.

The reward for being a conference championship game squad is $38,000 per player, up from the $34,500 the Ravens and Oakland Raiders each received for playing in the AFC title game in 2000.

Finally, when it comes to the Super Bowl, that’s where things have really changed. In the first Super Bowl, the winning Green Bay Packers got $15,000 a man while the 2000 Ravens got $58,000 apiece. This year, the Super Bowl champions will get $83,000 and the losers get 42,000 for a second consecutive year.

The Pro Bowl might not be high on most fans’ or players’ priority lists, but the players that do bother to show up get $45,000 each for the win and $22,500 apiece for the players on the losing conference all-star team.

[Tenbatsuzen]

even if you don't play all the time, you still see the other fans everyday. makes total sense.

I've been a Jets fan for nearly 20 years, I've never had a face-to-face personal issue with a Giants fan. Ever.

[Justice4all]

I have never been able to understand this. The Jets and Giants play each other for real once every four years. I have never been able to buy into the hype - and that's what it is - that giants fans hate the jets and vice versa, and Yankee fans hate the mets and vice versa.

It's all BS.

In Hockey, I can understand the rivalry. But not in football or baseball.

I have to agree with Ten...I've never been a Mets hater...only a Mets FAN hater....in some cases.
Most of the time I don't care. If the Jets or Mets do well...great.
If not...ok too.
But I don't mind rooting for both NY teams in football and baseball.
when they're not playing against each other that is.

[Justice4all]

For the playoffs the winners and losers get the same amount (except the wild-cards get slightly less in the wildcard round). It goes up for the conference championship but still the same for winning or losing (http://www.csnbaltimore.com/pages/landing?blockID=382717&tagID=476)
Thanks

[sailor]

I've been a Jets fan for nearly 20 years, I've never had a face-to-face personal issue with a Giants fan. Ever.

i never even implied any issues, personal or otherwise. you're rooting for one team and half of the people around you are rooting for the other local squad, it's only natural to dislike the other team, unless you're passionless.

[Judge Smails]

i never even implied any issues, personal or otherwise. you're rooting for one team and half of the people around you are rooting for the other local squad, it's only natural to dislike the other team, unless you're passionless.

Its not like that. As a Giants fan I get into it with the douchy Cowboys fans at work. And living in Central Jersey there's a lot of Eagles fans around that I could do without. But I've never had an issue with a Jets fan and often we wish each other luck on Sunday same as with my friend who's a big Rams fan. As long as it doesn't affect the the Giants in some way there's no real animosity.

[TripleSkeet]

I think everyone here overlooked the best part of today.... Its January 9th and we dont have to hear the name Manning for the rest of the NFL playoffs. :clap:

Nice job Jets. Love that Rex Ryan. Enjoy that win and go home and give that old lady of yours a well earned foot fucking.

[Snacks]

I have never been able to understand this. The Jets and Giants play each other for real once every four years. I have never been able to buy into the hype - and that's what it is - that giants fans hate the jets and vice versa, and Yankee fans hate the mets and vice versa.

It's all BS.

In Hockey, I can understand the rivalry. But not in football or baseball.

most fans hate each other because they are competing for media time in their market and bragging rights. There is no real reason other then fans and most fans hate the other teams fan. We have 2 or more teams in every sport so there naturally because a hate because 1 usually wins more often and also 1 is usually the town darling that gets all the press even when the other team might be doing better that year!

You live in this area and really dont get that?

[Snacks]

I have to agree with Ten...I've never been a Mets hater...only a Mets FAN hater....in some cases.
Most of the time I don't care. If the Jets or Mets do well...great.
If not...ok too.
But I don't mind rooting for both NY teams in football and baseball.
when they're not playing against each other that is.

You also never played any sports. Its not a knock on you but you dont have that mentality that playing competitive sports through out your entire life all year round brings!

[spoon]

Take all of the starting QB's in the league with his experience or more, and then tell me if they make the same mistakes Eli makes most of the time.

I will openly admit there were several games where the receivers couldn't buy a pair of hands to save their career. Was that Eli's fault? Absolutely not.

Ok...if you are pointing out mechanics might be the wrong word to use for my point, then fine professor, you win.

But you got my point. All the errors he makes, many should have been worked on years ago. Not 6 years later and he still makes them
He had 10 Ints in two years ago
18 last year
24 this year.
It should be the other way around.

And you are 110% correct. We had a terminal case of the turnovers this year. It was sickening.

Tom, being an NFL QB doesn't mean you get better every fucking year. In fact, sometimes stats may dip a little or more when teams key on you bc you are the main weapon or they get a better feel how to attack your style of play. It's like in golf for a qb as well, many slight variations on your throwing motion can have a huge effect on the resulting throw. Add in the fact that all qb's are constantly adjusting to new WRs, plays, offensive approaches and of course the defensive approach against them it's impossible to claim he should continually be improving his stats. Hell, his 30+ TDs is pretty damn good and at the top of any year. His ints are up this year, but you don't think his wrs had anything to do with it? And he still finished 10-6 and had a HUGE game against the Eagles. A game he should have won if your vaunted d came through at all in the 4th. Your logic hurts my fucking head sooooo much.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Its not like that. As a Giants fan I get into it with the douchy Cowboys fans at work. And living in Central Jersey there's a lot of Eagles fans around that I could do without. But I've never had an issue with a Jets fan and often we wish each other luck on Sunday same as with my friend who's a big Rams fan. As long as it doesn't affect the the Giants in some way there's no real animosity.

This, x2. I get into it with Pats fans at work, and one of my good friends is a Dolphins fan, so we get into it, but the Eagles and Giants fans, we're just like - good luck. It's exactly the same thing that Smails is describing.

most fans hate each other because they are competing for media time in their market and bragging rights. There is no real reason other then fans and most fans hate the other teams fan. We have 2 or more teams in every sport so there naturally because a hate because 1 usually wins more often and also 1 is usually the town darling that gets all the press even when the other team might be doing better that year!

You live in this area and really dont get that?

Most fans aren't like the mouthbreathers that call into WFAN. Most fans don't care about press coverage or all this shit you are talking about. They care about their team and who their team plays against. And no offense, a Dolphins fan talking about the relationship[ between the Jets fans and Giants fans when you actually have Jets and Giants fans telling you it's not like that is pretty funny.

[KnoxHarrington]

Fucking love The Onion.

NDIANAPOLIS—Indianapolis Colts head coach Jim Caldwell told reporters Thursday he has decided to start 13-year veteran and 11-time Pro Bowler Peyton Manning at quarterback for Saturday's wild-card matchup against the New York Jets. "After much deliberation, we believe that Peyton's four MVP awards and one Super Bowl ring give us the best chance to win," said Caldwell, adding that Manning being a first-ballot Hall of Famer "factored somewhat" into his final decision. "Curtis Painter is a promising young player, but at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, 'Do I go with the guy who has 28 career pass attempts or with the fastest player in NFL history to reach 1,000 completions, 2,000 completions, 3,000 completions, and 4,000 completions?'" Caldwell concluded the press conference by stressing that it's "always week-to-week," but Manning would likely be the frontrunner to start a divisional matchup should he lead the team to victory Saturday.

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/colts-tap-quarterback-peyton-manning-to-start-play,18751/

I can see some sports talk radio douchebag with 5 hours of programming to fill blurting out that Curtis Painter should be the starter in Indy so a bunch of outraged rubes will call up to argue with him. (cough cough *Colin Cowherd* cough cough)

[OGC]

I don't want to be the "On topic" nazi guy here , but can we keep this thread for discussion of the playoffs ? I know you guys aren't terribly far off topic but there are other threads for this Eli/Giants talk.

[Tenbatsuzen]

You also never played any sports. Its not a knock on you but you dont have that mentality that playing competitive sports through out your entire life all year round brings!

I played sports. The team in the next town over was not in our division. We never played them. We never cared about them. We cared about the teams we played.

On a college level, nobody from Monmouth cares about Rutgers and vice versa. Maybe you can make a comparison with Seton Hall and Rutgers, but there's not even any animosity there either!

[Snoogans]

I played sports. The team in the next town over was not in our division. We never played them. We never cared about them. We cared about the teams we played.

On a college level, nobody from Monmouth cares about Rutgers and vice versa. Maybe you can make a comparison with Seton Hall and Rutgers, but there's not even any animosity there either!

yea cause they are both fuckin terrible. who would give a fuck if there was? And how do you know say the Rutgers basketball team has ZERO animosity toward Seton Hall's basketball team? You cant know things like this but you fuckin say it anyway as if its fact.

I dont believe you played sports, or at least played boys or mens sports, if you are honestly saying your team didnt get happy if your rival town got its ass kicked, or the other school in your town. Wayne Hills and Wayne Valley are in seperate divisions, but you can bet your ass they root for each other to lose.

Shit, you dont think everyone at Ohio State loves when Michigan loses to anyone? Yea they are big rivals but Ohio State and Cincy arent, but i bet they love when Cincy loses. You wanna be the best in your area. If you dont play the other team, then what they do against other teams does matter. They need to suck so you know you are superior. Thats nature.

Thats why I dont get these jerkoffs who like the Giants or Jets and root for the other. Or like the Yankees or Mets and root for the other. FUCK THAT SHIT. They are just as much enemies as anyone else is cause they are another team you want to be better than.

Especially if its a team like the fuckin Jets who are just scumbags and everyone hates them