NY Giants offseason thread

[Justice4all]

Let's face it...we deserved whatever happened these last two games. We had two chances to make it to the playoffs on our own and we blew it.

Let the speculation and offseason moves to not make this happen again, begin.

[jauble]

Eli is screaming into that mic.

[foodcourtdruide]

I think the Giants would be making a huge mistake getting rid of Coughlin. They still went 10-6, the whole situation reminds me a lot of what happened in Tampa with Chucky.

[keithy_19]

I think the Giants would be making a huge mistake getting rid of Coughlin. They still went 10-6, the whole situation reminds me a lot of what happened in Tampa with Chucky.

This.

[razorboy]

They still went 10-6, the whole situation reminds me a lot of what happened in Tampa with Chucky.

Hell no, Coughlin is way more consistent then Gruden ever hoped to be. All Gruden ever did was whiff badly on nearly every draft pick he ever made, sign 65 year old band aids because they played well for him in Philly or Oakland and alienate himself from every player and coach in the organization all while amassing a sparkling two games over .500 record in the regular season and never winning another postseason game after 02-03. At least Coughlin can evaluate talent.

[keithy_19]

Hell no, Coughlin is way more consistent then Gruden ever hoped to be. All Gruden ever did was whiff badly on nearly every draft pick he ever made, sign 65 year old band aids because they played well for him in Philly or Oakland and alienate himself from every player and coach in the organization all while amassing a sparkling two games over .500 record in the regular season and never winning another postseason game after 02-03. At least Coughlin can evaluate talent.

This.

[foodcourtdruide]

Hell no, Coughlin is way more consistent then Gruden ever hoped to be. All Gruden ever did was whiff badly on nearly every draft pick he ever made, sign 65 year old band aids because they played well for him in Philly or Oakland and alienate himself from every player and coach in the organization all while amassing a sparkling two games over .500 record in the regular season and never winning another postseason game after 02-03. At least Coughlin can evaluate talent.

57-55 w/ Bucs | Gruden
64-47 w/ Giants | Coughlin

I stand corrected. Bad comparison.

[Snoogans]

Coughlin is a good coach but he lost the team i think. The thing he is most famous for, discipline, the team has none of. its like they dont listen to him anymore. I think its just time for a new voice

[Justice4all]

Coughlin is a good coach but he lost the team i think. The thing he is most famous for, discipline, the team has none of. its like they dont listen to him anymore. I think its just time for a new voice

Apparently he's not going anywhere (according to Mara) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/02/coughlin.giants.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

[epo]

Apparently he's not going anywhere (according to Mara) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/02/coughlin.giants.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

Sorry Snoogans. I know this is breaking your heart.

[Snoogans]

Sorry Snoogans. I know this is breaking your heart.

I heard the news. Im not happy about it. And my TV remote isnt feelin too good after how hard it hit the floor

[epo]

I heard the news. Im not happy about it. And my TV remote isnt feelin too good after how hard it hit the floor

Hey, he's no Bill Cowher!

[jauble]

Hey, he's no Bill Cowher!

He could have thrown that remote for 92 yards and it wouldn't have mattered.

[spoon]

I think the Giants would be making a huge mistake getting rid of Coughlin. They still went 10-6, the whole situation reminds me a lot of what happened in Tampa with Chucky.

Marty Schottenheimer? Although Marty was well liked/respected by his players.

Ok, minus the playoffs of course.

Coughlin is a good coach but he lost the team i think. The thing he is most famous for, discipline, the team has none of. its like they dont listen to him anymore. I think its just time for a new voice

This about sums it up. It's not like he's fucking awful like NORV, he's just not the right fit now. It's about time to get Eli a good QB coach too if you ask me. Having Warner helped him a TON, but to me he desperately needs a old vet behind him for help either at the qb2/3 or qb coach. I can't believe he developed at all with the likes of Chris Palmer and ex DEFENSIVE BACK Mike Sullivan. Oh and the backup tandem of Sorgi & Rosenfels doesn't really help either. Just my call.

[TripleSkeet]

Coughlin is a good coach but he lost the team i think. The thing he is most famous for, discipline, the team has none of. its like they dont listen to him anymore. I think its just time for a new voice

I felt the same way about Andy Reid until he got rid of McNabb. I think alot of the players had lost faith in both but when Reid got rid of McNabb and then decided to go with Vick I think he won back his team. Its so rare that it works out like that though.

I m glad that Mara is backing Coughlin though. Now if Jerry Jones will just sign Garrett to an extension I will be perfectly happy.

[spoon]

I m glad that Mara is backing Coughlin though. Now if Jerry Jones will just sign Garrett to an extension I will be perfectly happy.

Says the Eagles fan. :unsure:

[Justice4all]

On another note...Osi Umenyiora has a 10 sack/10 forced fumble season and he doesn't make it to the pro bowl? WTF?

Same for Tuck....12 sacks/6 FF and 5 recoveries.

Not trying to say others didn't do well also, but come ON man.

[spoon]

On another note...Osi Umenyiora has a 10 sack/10 forced fumble season and he doesn't make it to the pro bowl? WTF?

Same for Tuck....12 sacks/6 FF and 5 recoveries.

Not trying to say others didn't do well also, but come ON man.

First off, Tuck is in. He's not a starter but in non-the-less. Second, you don't get everyone, much less guys on the edge where there are a TON of candidates.

I think the bigger issue is that MJD is starting over Foster after leading the league in rushing versus an ok year. Foster rushed for almost 300 more yards, 11 more tds, had 32 more catches and 300 more yards receiving. He also hit 2,220 total yards from scrimmage. That my friend is a bigger issue than your homer bullshit you fuckwad! :wink:

[keithy_19]

On another note...Osi Umenyiora has a 10 sack/10 forced fumble season and he doesn't make it to the pro bowl? WTF?

Same for Tuck....12 sacks/6 FF and 5 recoveries.

Not trying to say others didn't do well also, but come ON man.

The pro bowl is nonsense.

As for bringing in someone for Eli, I'm all for bringing back the hefty lefty.

[keithy_19]

First off, Tuck is in. He's not a starter but in non-the-less. Second, you don't get everyone, much less guys on the edge where there are a TON of candidates.

I think the bigger issue is that MJD is starting over Foster after leading the league in rushing versus an ok year. Foster rushed for almost 300 more yards, 11 more tds, had 32 more catches and 300 more yards receiving. He also hit 2,220 total yards from scrimmage. That my friend is a bigger issue than your homer bullshit you fuckwad! :wink:

The pro bowl is nonsense.

[spoon]

The pro bowl is nonsense.

Oh I agree on that completely. Yet I do get a little caught up in who actually gets wrongly picked and the kids that always get f'd bc they have no name yet.

I'd say all-pro is the bigger honor, but going to Hawaii during he heart of winter to be honored can't be too shabby.

[epo]

Oh I agree on that completely. Yet I do get a little caught up in who actually gets wrongly picked and the kids that always get f'd bc they have no name yet.

I'd say all-pro is the bigger honor, but going to Hawaii during he heart of winter to be honored can't be too shabby.

I'm with you, we could all cry about some guy on our favorite team who didn't get picked for the Pro Bowl but its a useless exercise.

[spoon]

I'm with you, we could all cry about some guy on our favorite team who didn't get picked for the Pro Bowl but its a useless exercise.

Well the funny thing is it always IS someone crying about guys on their team, not guys who definitively should have been chosen regardless of where they play.

All I really care about is... A) Can we get Turner to coach it? B) Can we set it up he gets lost Aruba Halloway style while there or at least arrange simultaneous head hits from Clay Mathews and Patrick Willis on the sidelines?

[epo]

Well the funny thing is it always IS someone crying about guys on their team, not guys who definitively should have been chosen regardless of where they play.

All I really care about is... A) Can we get Turner to coach it? B) Can we set it up he gets lost Aruba Halloway style while there or at least arrange simultaneous head hits from Clay Mathews and Patrick Willis on the sidelines?

You never hear about the guy on a fan's favorite team who didn't deserve to go either. I wonder why that this?

And really if people are getting lost Aruba style, then I want that dumb blonde Gruden to be part of the tragedy.

[razorboy]

A) Can we get Turner to coach it? B) Can we set it up he gets lost Aruba Halloway style while there or at least arrange simultaneous head hits from Clay Mathews and Patrick Willis on the sidelines?

Just set him loose on a pineapple plantation. Search and rescue will never be able to pick him out.

[Snoogans]

Oh I agree on that completely. Yet I do get a little caught up in who actually gets wrongly picked and the kids that always get f'd bc they have no name yet.

I'd say all-pro is the bigger honor, but going to Hawaii during he heart of winter to be honored can't be too shabby.

dont they not go to hawaii anymore? I thought the pro bowl is the week before at the superbowl location now? Wasnt it in miami last year?

Also, the starters are voted in by fans. So anytime someone is starting that shouldnt, blame the stupid fans. Just like baseball. Fans ruin everything

[Snacks]

dont they not go to hawaii anymore? I thought the pro bowl is the week before at the superbowl location now? Wasnt it in miami last year?

Also, the starters are voted in by fans. So anytime someone is starting that shouldnt, blame the stupid fans. Just like baseball. Fans ruin everything

that was a 1 year deal. they kept it a week before the super bowl but resigned with hawaii for like 3-5 years, something like that.

[Snoogans]

that was a 1 year deal. they kept it a week before the super bowl but resigned with hawaii for like 3-5 years, something like that.

the way fuckin goodell is, im surprised they arent playin the thing in fuckin Munich or some dumb European place thats never gonna give a fuck

[Tenbatsuzen]

the way fuckin goodell is, im surprised they arent playin the thing in fuckin Munich or some dumb European place thats never gonna give a fuck

Players Association got pissed because they didn't want it in the Super Bowl location. It would be nice for Miami, San Diego, etc. but if it was in Indy or Minny - WTF?

[KnoxHarrington]

the way fuckin goodell is, im surprised they arent playin the thing in fuckin Munich or some dumb European place thats never gonna give a fuck

He'll decide Central Asia is an up-and-coming market for the NFL and have the Pro Bowl in Tashkent.

[Justice4all]

First off, Tuck is in. He's not a starter but in non-the-less. Second, you don't get everyone, much less guys on the edge where there are a TON of candidates.

I think the bigger issue is that MJD is starting over Foster after leading the league in rushing versus an ok year. Foster rushed for almost 300 more yards, 11 more tds, had 32 more catches and 300 more yards receiving. He also hit 2,220 total yards from scrimmage. That my friend is a bigger issue than your homer bullshit you fuckwad! :wink:

Hey Captain not-so-obvious...this is the GIANTS offseason thread. Hence Giants are the topic.

And I didn't know Tuck made it. I only saw Snee on the list.

[Justice4all]

You never hear about the guy on a fan's favorite team who didn't deserve to go either. I wonder why that this?

And really if people are getting lost Aruba style, then I want that dumb blonde Gruden to be part of the tragedy.


I wasn't trying to be Mr. Fan-favorite. But I do know when a player has had a good year.
And Tuck and Osi both had very good years and should have been considered. (As spoon pointed out...Tuck did make it)

As far as the pro-bowl being pointless...it's like the All Star game for baseball....mainly recognizable names make it in. They should do something to make it worth watching.

Make the winner the next site for the Super Bowl in 2015. Meaning if the AFC wins...in 2015 an AFC team gets the Super Bowl for 2015 and so on.

That's all I can think of for the moment.

[Snacks]

I wasn't trying to be Mr. Fan-favorite. But I do know when a player has had a good year.
And Tuck and Osi both had very good years and should have been considered. (As spoon pointed out...Tuck did make it)

As far as the pro-bowl being pointless...it's like the All Star game for baseball....mainly recognizable names make it in. They should do something to make it worth watching.

Make the winner the next site for the Super Bowl in 2015. Meaning if the AFC wins...in 2015 an AFC team gets the Super Bowl for 2015 and so on.

That's all I can think of for the moment.

they pretty much already do that last year miami, this year dallas, next year indy the following year ny etc. it also doesnt matter because being in an afc or nfc city doesnt give someone an advantage like in baseball because in baseball the actual team in the ws gets the advantage b/c they are playing in that ws and at home an extra game.

[TripleSkeet]

they pretty much already do that last year miami, this year dallas, next year indy the following year ny etc. it also doesnt matter because being in an afc or nfc city doesnt give someone an advantage like in baseball because in baseball the actual team in the ws gets the advantage b/c they are playing in that ws and at home an extra game.

Plus in baseball they usually get to play in front of their actual fans. Not like the Super Bowl which is filled with corporate sponsors, and rich fans from both side that could actually afford it.


As far as the pro-bowl being pointless...it's like the All Star game for baseball....mainly recognizable names make it in. They should do something to make it worth watching.

Make the winner the next site for the Super Bowl in 2015. Meaning if the AFC wins...in 2015 an AFC team gets the Super Bowl for 2015 and so on.

That's all I can think of for the moment.

The difference in baseballs All-Star game is they can actually play it competitively still without risk of getting hurt. Sure you might not see someone run into the wall to make an out, but the Pro Bowl is basically guys playing rough touch.

[Justice4all]

The difference in baseballs All-Star game is they can actually play it competitively still without risk of getting hurt. Sure you might not see someone run into the wall to make an out, but the Pro Bowl is basically guys playing rough touch.


Yes but it's at the end of the season. So they can play hard and if they get hurt they have months to recover (if needed)

And, from what I understand, each stadium that hosts a Super Bowl, those home fans have a lottery to get tickets for that game (so at Indy, the Indy fans have a chance to go to the game).

So if there isn't a team that had hosted a SB in a while, this is a chance to get them back.

[Snacks]

Yes but it's at the end of the season. So they can play hard and if they get hurt they have months to recover (if needed)

And, from what I understand, each stadium that hosts a Super Bowl, those home fans have a lottery to get tickets for that game (so at Indy, the Indy fans have a chance to go to the game).

So if there isn't a team that had hosted a SB in a while, this is a chance to get them back.

no player will ever play that hard in a pro bowl. football player contract arent guaranteed, so if they get hurt bad enough the 3 month recovery will mean shit they will get cut. also most players dont make enough to take that chance. If jeter got hurt playing in the all star game he would still get his money. Not in the NFL. And to be honest other then Pete Rose, most baseball players dont play that hard either. The difference is its easier to get hurt no matter what you do playing football.

[spoon]

Hey Captain not-so-obvious...this is the GIANTS offseason thread. Hence Giants are the topic.

And I didn't know Tuck made it. I only saw Snee on the list.

Yes we all know what thread it is Tom, but thanks. I was clearly on topic correcting your outrage and homerism in one fell swoop! Ha!

As for the captain not-so-obvious line, ooooof. :wallbash: You just earned yourself a WF!

[spoon]

I wasn't trying to be Mr. Fan-favorite. But I do know when a player has had a good year.
And Tuck and Osi both had very good years and should have been considered. (As spoon pointed out...Tuck did make it)

As far as the pro-bowl being pointless...it's like the All Star game for baseball....mainly recognizable names make it in. They should do something to make it worth watching.

Make the winner the next site for the Super Bowl in 2015. Meaning if the AFC wins...in 2015 an AFC team gets the Super Bowl for 2015 and so on.

That's all I can think of for the moment.

they pretty much already do that last year miami, this year dallas, next year indy the following year ny etc. it also doesnt matter because being in an afc or nfc city doesnt give someone an advantage like in baseball because in baseball the actual team in the ws gets the advantage b/c they are playing in that ws and at home an extra game.

Right Snacks. The winning league also gets one more game playing with or w/o the DH and their normal style of game.

Justice, your also right it would be nice to see it have something more of meaning, or better yet simply interest. However, the all-star game having that much value is completely idiotic and I don't want ANYTHING like it for an even less important pro-bowl.

I'd much rather they make it a fun outing like the skills game in the NHL and or the slam dunk shit in the NBA (and I hate the NBA but at least it's goofy and fun). I always got a kick at least watching the qb's hit targets and other teams wrs in challenges, or fat linemen running the obstacle courses faster than their qb/rb counterparts. Something like that, but more thought out and fun.

The game is complete bullshit and most of the time I watched it was just a lot of huge guys going half-speed. To me their in lies a HUGE risk of injury and simply not worth it. I'd love to see AP, Vick and Revis running the gauntlet gladiators stye. Minus any huge injury risk type event.

[spoon]

Plus in baseball they usually get to play in front of their actual fans. Not like the Super Bowl which is filled with corporate sponsors, and rich fans from both side that could actually afford it.



The difference in baseballs All-Star game is they can actually play it competitively still without risk of getting hurt. Sure you might not see someone run into the wall to make an out, but the Pro Bowl is basically guys playing rough touch.

Again I agree. I think keeping the pro-bowl a week earlier form the SB at it's location can only help a little toward regular guys getting tickets. If all these big name players and their hanger-ons were around, you can be guaranteed they'd continue to suck up a LOT of tickets. Then those old fucks will never get to 50 games! :glurps:

[TripleSkeet]

Yes but it's at the end of the season. So they can play hard and if they get hurt they have months to recover (if needed)


Tell that to Robert Edwards. And that was flag football on the beach before the Pro Bowl.

[spoon]

no player will ever play that hard in a pro bowl. football player contract arent guaranteed, so if they get hurt bad enough the 3 month recovery will mean shit they will get cut. also most players dont make enough to take that chance. If jeter got hurt playing in the all star game he would still get his money. Not in the NFL. And to be honest other then Pete Rose, most baseball players dont play that hard either. The difference is its easier to get hurt no matter what you do playing football.

Yah Tom, I don't agree on this at all. Yes you have time to recover but it makes zero sense. Find another way and don't hurt your fan favs for a gimmick game.

[spoon]

Tell that to Robert Edwards. And that was flag football on the beach before the Pro Bowl.

exactly right

wasn't Edward's injury so bad he almost had his leg amputated?

[TripleSkeet]

exactly right

wasn't Edward's injury so bad he almost had his leg amputated?

Yea. He came back eventually and got some award just for being able to play. But he was never even close to the same player.

[cougarjake13]

Let's face it...we deserved whatever happened these last two games. We had two chances to make it to the playoffs on our own and we blew it.

Let the speculation and offseason moves to not make this happen again, begin.



wasnt too positive of giants doing more than one and done in these playoffs unless we were 5 seed then i think we would have beat seattle again

[cougarjake13]

how the hell did shaun ohara make it other then on name ??

[Justice4all]

Right Snacks. The winning league also gets one more game playing with or w/o the DH and their normal style of game.

Justice, your also right it would be nice to see it have something more of meaning, or better yet simply interest. However, the all-star game having that much value is completely idiotic and I don't want ANYTHING like it for an even less important pro-bowl.

I'd much rather they make it a fun outing like the skills game in the NHL and or the slam dunk shit in the NBA (and I hate the NBA but at least it's goofy and fun). I always got a kick at least watching the qb's hit targets and other teams wrs in challenges, or fat linemen running the obstacle courses faster than their qb/rb counterparts. Something like that, but more thought out and fun.

The game is complete bullshit and most of the time I watched it was just a lot of huge guys going half-speed. To me their in lies a HUGE risk of injury and simply not worth it. I'd love to see AP, Vick and Revis running the gauntlet gladiators stye. Minus any huge injury risk type event.

Yea I know. I don't think there will ever be a way to make the Pro bowl have meaning. Why not just give out the names of who made it, give them the bonus money, the free trip to Hawaii and never show the game. Might as well at this point.

[Snacks]

Yea I know. I don't think there will ever be a way to make the Pro bowl have meaning. Why not just give out the names of who made it, give them the bonus money, the free trip to Hawaii and never show the game. Might as well at this point.

because the NFL makes no money off that. The only reason these guys get the bonus is because they play the game and the NFL sells the tv rights!

[Snoogans]

Right Snacks. The winning league also gets one more game playing with or w/o the DH and their normal style of game.

Justice, your also right it would be nice to see it have something more of meaning, or better yet simply interest. However, the all-star game having that much value is completely idiotic and I don't want ANYTHING like it for an even less important pro-bowl.

I'd much rather they make it a fun outing like the skills game in the NHL and or the slam dunk shit in the NBA (and I hate the NBA but at least it's goofy and fun). I always got a kick at least watching the qb's hit targets and other teams wrs in challenges, or fat linemen running the obstacle courses faster than their qb/rb counterparts. Something like that, but more thought out and fun.

The game is complete bullshit and most of the time I watched it was just a lot of huge guys going half-speed. To me their in lies a HUGE risk of injury and simply not worth it. I'd love to see AP, Vick and Revis running the gauntlet gladiators stye. Minus any huge injury risk type event.

did they stop that shit? I remember watching it and enjoying those things alot. Like the NFL skills comp. Vince Young (seriously) dominated it one year. He even hit 7 straight targets at 55 yards away. I couldnt believe it. Damn, they really need to start doin those again. Firing footballs at WRs from 15 feet away at 50 MPH while they pun in circles catchin it. That was cool shit

the slam dunk shit in the NBA was so awful and dead for like 5 years and no one cared and then they got bnate robinson and dwight howard in it and they made it entertaining and fun and more about the show then the actual dunks itself and since then its been pretty cool

[spoon]

did they stop that shit? I remember watching it and enjoying those things alot. Like the NFL skills comp. Vince Young (seriously) dominated it one year. He even hit 7 straight targets at 55 yards away. I couldnt believe it. Damn, they really need to start doin those again. Firing footballs at WRs from 15 feet away at 50 MPH while they pun in circles catchin it. That was cool shit

the slam dunk shit in the NBA was so awful and dead for like 5 years and no one cared and then they got bnate robinson and dwight howard in it and they made it entertaining and fun and more about the show then the actual dunks itself and since then its been pretty cool

Well you surely know I hardly watch the NBA, but usually will keep goofy shit like that on for some reason. I'm assuming Robinson and Howard kind of took the event to be a time for goofing around and fun for the fans as Ovechkin has in the past for the NHL in the skills comp.

http://trevorpresiloski.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ovechkin-skillscomp20091.jpg

[Snoogans]

Well you surely know I hardly watch the NBA, but usually will keep goofy shit like that on for some reason. I'm assuming Robinson and Howard kind of took the event to be a time for goofing around and fun for the fans as Ovechkin has in the past for the NHL in the skills comp.

http://trevorpresiloski.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/ovechkin-skillscomp20091.jpg

yea howard is nicknamed superman. So he went into a phone booth and came out with a cape for one dunk. then nate put on a kryptonite green knicks jersey and jumped over dwight on a dunk later. They made it a show more than a contest of dunking ability and since then, some of the other guys took the hint. one guy lit a candle on a cup cake, put it on the rim and blew it out before he dunked, shit like that. Its gotten so much better.

I havent seen the last 2 NHL skills things so i dont know what ovechkin has done, but fuck him and fuck Mudo's capitals.

that hat and glasses thing is kinda funny though

[spoon]

yea howard is nicknamed superman. So he went into a phone booth and came out with a cape for one dunk. then nate put on a kryptonite green knicks jersey and jumped over dwight on a dunk later. They made it a show more than a contest of dunking ability and since then, some of the other guys took the hint. one guy lit a candle on a cup cake, put it on the rim and blew it out before he dunked, shit like that. Its gotten so much better.

I havent seen the last 2 NHL skills things so i dont know what ovechkin has done, but fuck him and fuck Mudo's capitals.

that hat and glasses thing is kinda funny though

and notice the two sticks

[Snoogans]

and notice the two sticks

hopefully he used one to pretend he was blind, that woulda been hilarious

[epo]

Now that I think of it, here are the Packers who should've the Pro Bowl this year: Aaron Rodgers, Brian Bulaga, BJ Raji, Tramon Williams, AJ Hawk, Josh Sitton, Sean Jones, Sterling Sharpe, Forrest Gregg, Brent Fullwood and Aaron Rouse.

I also think Eli Manning should be a Pro Bowl alternate for the NFC for all of those completions to the Packers in Week 16.

[spoon]

Now that I think of it, here are the Packers who should've the Pro Bowl this year: Aaron Rodgers, Brian Bulaga, BJ Raji, Tramon Williams, AJ Hawk, Josh Sitton, Sean Jones, Sterling Sharpe, Forrest Gregg, Brent Fullwood and Aaron Rouse.

I also think Eli Manning should be a Pro Bowl alternate for the NFC for all of those completions to the Packers in Week 16.

Finley would have been there too if healthy.

[spoon]

Here's my Charger list...Rivers.

I guess Gates two when you realize he only played 10 games, many really hurt and put up a ton of catches, yards and 10 tds! Still, he only played 10 of 16 games.

As for guard Kris Dielman who was selected, he's good enough but nothing too tough to replace at this level. I'm sure there are plenty of guys around his level and some better.

That's it...unless you count Norv coaching it...Arubian Holloway plan A GO!

[Snoogans]

here is my giants list:


Victor Cruz
Gartrelle Johnson
Dominic Hixon

oh yea and Lawrence Taylor. He had a big year

[TripleSkeet]

did they stop that shit? I remember watching it and enjoying those things alot. Like the NFL skills comp. Vince Young (seriously) dominated it one year. He even hit 7 straight targets at 55 yards away. I couldnt believe it. Damn, they really need to start doin those again. Firing footballs at WRs from 15 feet away at 50 MPH while they pun in circles catchin it. That was cool shit

the slam dunk shit in the NBA was so awful and dead for like 5 years and no one cared and then they got bnate robinson and dwight howard in it and they made it entertaining and fun and more about the show then the actual dunks itself and since then its been pretty cool

I remember Randall Cunningham back in the day just tearing that shit up.

[spoon]

oh yea and Lawrence Taylor. He had a big year

Yah, it was like he was 18 again out there....oh wait.

[Justice4all]

Here's my Charger list...Rivers.

I guess Gates two when you realize he only played 10 games, many really hurt and put up a ton of catches, yards and 10 tds! Still, he only played 10 of 16 games.

As for guard Kris Dielman who was selected, he's good enough but nothing too tough to replace at this level. I'm sure there are plenty of guys around his level and some better.

That's it...unless you count Norv coaching it...Arubian Holloway plan A GO!

Well when you average 1 TD per game that's pretty damn good.

And I didn't know he wore #2 :thumbdown: (re re)

[Justice4all]

Yah, it was like he was 18 again out there....oh wait.

More like 18 to life now.
maybe they can put him in the same cell as OJ and they can call it the HOF wing of the prison.

[spoon]

heh? #2?

:blink:

[Justice4all]

heh? #2?

:blink:

Take a look at your grammar there professor.

[spoon]

Take a look at your grammar there professor.

Oh for fuck's sake, really?

A quick post error is not the same as calling SD's coach NORM Turner sorry.