~ NFL Mvp 2010 ~

[spoon]

Who gets your vote??

[Snacks]

Brady

[spoon]

Add ur vote. Just finished the poll.

[spoon]

Also, why the fuck won't the title stay in all caps?!

[weekapaugjz]

brady.

[epo]

I couldn't decide between Clay Matthews and John Kuhn. Luckily the poll only had one.

[underdog]

It's Brady. The only reason people will vote for anyone else is specifically not to vote for Brady and/or a Patriot.

[keithy_19]

I say Brady.

[epo]

It's Brady. The only reason people will vote for anyone else is specifically not to vote for Brady and/or a Patriot.

Fuck that. The only reason people don't vote for John Kuhn is their hate of whitey.

[Fallon]

Tom Brady yo!!!

[TripleSkeet]

It's Brady. The only reason people will vote for anyone else is specifically not to vote for Brady and/or a Patriot.

Thats not true. I think Tom Bradys the best QB in the league. I just think that what Vick has done this season, especially considering he hadnt started an NFL game in 3 years and the fact his O line blows camel dick, is just too impressive to ignore.

[weekapaugjz]

especially considering he hadnt started an NFL game in 3 years.

how can this even be a part of the discussion? it's about what has been done THIS year.

[TripleSkeet]

how can this even be a part of the discussion? it's about what has been done THIS year.

This is about this year.

[weekapaugjz]

so why are you bringing up that he hasn't started in three years as a reason he should be mvp?

[PapaBear]

Also, why the fuck won't the title stay in all caps?!
I've never found an answer for that. I sometimes can't even have the first sentence of a post to stay in all caps. I was able to PARTIALLY fix it. FRUSTRATING!

[TripleSkeet]

so why are you bringing up that he hasn't started in three years as a reason he should be mvp?

Im bringing it up as a reference as to why what hes done is more impressive to me. What would have been more impressive this year? If Jimmy Claussen came into the league and threw 35 touchdowns, or if Peyton Manning did it? If you say its equally impressive that just fucking ridiculous.

Regardless, he took what many believed to be a 7-9 team this year....without him QBing (and wouldve picked a worse record WITH him as QB before the season) and made it into a possible 11 win team.

[weekapaugjz]

Im bringing it up as a reference as to why what hes done is more impressive to me. What would have been more impressive this year? If Jimmy Claussen came into the league and threw 35 touchdowns, or if Peyton Manning did it? If you say its equally impressive that just fucking ridiculous.

way to use something completely hypothetical to try to prove your point.

Regardless, he took what many believed to be a 7-9 team this year....without him QBing (and wouldve picked a worse record WITH him as QB before the season) and made it into a possible 11 win team.

oh, we should always base someone's performance on a bunch of has-been's dumb preseason predictions.

i would say vick is second to brady, but what brady has done this year with the players he has is mind boggling. and i'm saying all this while i FUCKING HATE tom brady.

[TripleSkeet]

way to use something completely hypothetical to try to prove your point.



oh, we should always base someone's performance on a bunch of has-been's dumb preseason predictions.

i would say vick is second to brady, but what brady has done this year with the players he has is mind boggling. and i'm saying all this while i FUCKING HATE tom brady.

I think I said Tom Brady is the best QB in the league. I just think what Vick has done this year is more impressive. Thats all.

[spoon]

Ah, Vick should get a lot of 2nd and some 3rd place votes in my mind, but NOT get the MVP. You thought the team had such good weapons that Kolb would throw about 35 tds this year TS, so that no potential for the Eagles is crap. They are in it every year and Vick had a whole year to get back into football shape and his playbook covered.

I'm not saying what he has done isn't impressive at all, but to me he's not the MVP.

[spoon]

Vick
Games 12
QB Rating 100.2
Completions 233
Attempts 372
Percentage 62.6%
Yards 3018
Yards/Game 251.5
Yards/Att 8.1
TDs 21
Ints 6

Rushes 100
Yards 676
Yards/Game 56.3
Yards/Att 6.8
TDs 9

Sacked 34
Yards Lost 210
Fumbles 11
Fum Lost 3

[spoon]

Brady
Games 15
QB Rating 109.8
Completions 314
Attempts 476
Percentage 66.0%
Yards 3701
Yards/Game 246.7
Yards/Att 7.8
TDs 34
Ints 4

Rushes 31
Yards 30
Yards/Game 2.0
Yards/Att 1.0
TDs 1

Sacked 25
Yards Lost 175
Fumbles 3
Fum Lost 1

[PapaBear]

Looking at those stats, and taking non stat related things into consideration, Vick could EASILY be MVP with one or two better games. He did far better than he should have. But Brady should definitely get the MVP (barring any possible radical changes in week 17).

I hate Brady. I like Vick.

Brady for the win.

[spoon]

Looking at those stats, and taking non stat related things into consideration, Vick could EASILY be MVP with one or two better games. He did far better than he should have. But Brady should definitely get the MVP (barring any possible radical changes in week 17).

I hate Brady. I like Vick.

Brady for the win.

Some huge deciding factors for me are divisional opponents, conference opponents, out of conference opponents (fuck it I should have just said strength of schedule!), ball control 4 ints in 15 games with 3 fumbles and 1 lost for Brady versus 6 ints in 12 games with 11 fumbles and 3 lost for Vick. Add to this the core of weapons at their disposal and Tom simply has been amazing. Not that Vick hasn't, this past game excluded, but Brady has been...well Tom fucking Brady. But all come in a distant 2nd or worse to the SANCHIZE!

1 Sanchize
2 Brady
3 Vick

[PapaBear]

Please stop talking about Sanchize. I want him to stay under the radar, so the Skins can pick him up next season.

[spoon]

Please stop talking about Sanchize. I want him to stay under the radar, so the Skins can pick him up next season.

COME ON! Are you mad!? You have REX and KYLE baby!

[PapaBear]

COME ON! Are you mad!? You have REX and KYLE baby!
PLEASE SHUT UP!!! I want the greatest triple threat ever!!!!:furious:

[spoon]

Take NORVAL back. It's really all you need.

[PapaBear]

Take NORVAL back. It's really all you need.
The other stuff was obviously sarcastic. But now you're just trying to piss me off.

[spoon]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/norvchargers2.jpg

It just looks right.

[JimBeam]

I hate Brady as well but his numbers, and the lack of INTs, is pretty telling.

I heard one analyst say that Brady was the best QB this year but Vick was the most exciting and that's why he should be the MVP.

That's ridiculous.

Who says that running around and making plays is any better than sitting back there and making plays ?

Because a guy's a scrambling/running QB that makes him better ?

Nonsense,

[sailor]

Even if Brady wins unanimously, the Pats will say they are not respected. God, I fucking hate them all.

[CYYYFYYY]

When the Bears win the SuperBowl you will say Cutler should of at least been mentioned in the top 10. My Vote however goes to Brady Hands down and after Tuesday Night that clinches it.

[CountryBob]

Please stop talking about Sanchize. I want him to stay under the radar, so the Skins can pick him up next season.

Why? So he can throw 5 yard passes in DC too?

[spoon]

When the Bears win the SuperBowl you will say Cutler should of at least been mentioned in the top 10.

no/laughable

[cougarjake13]

voted for brady cause my option wasnt there




matt cassell

[Ogre]

Why? So he can throw 5 yard passes in DC too?

Every Sunday is like The Battan Death March.

oh yeah

Brady

[PapaBear]

Why? So he can throw 5 yard passes in DC too?
Sarcasm!

[hanso]

He got 564 yards in the rain.
- Miami Dolphins ...
... Punter Brandon Fields .

[underdog]

This voting is a little one sided.

[keithy_19]

To be fair, Vick already was the MVP of the much loved 'Puppy Bowl'.

[keithy_19]

Way to be classy Brady.

During his weekly Monday appearance on sports radio 850 WEEI, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was asked his thoughts on winning another Most Valuable Player award. Brady previously won the award in 2007.

Speaking with Boston Globe columnist Bob Ryan and former Patriots teammate Troy Brown, Brady said the award doesn't make sense to him because football is a team sport.

"I can understand the Most Valuable Golfer or something like that," Brady said, before mentioning Eagles quarterback Michael Vick and Colts quarterback Peyton Manning as great players who fit what their teams do well.

"Unfortunately, it's really a quarterback award. Not a lot of other great players get that recognition, which they probably should. There are so many great players in the league. I guess it's something that they have to do. The only award I ever care about is a Super Bowl ring. That's the only one that's important to me."

[spoon]

During his weekly Monday appearance on sports radio 850 WEEI, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady was asked his thoughts on winning another Most Valuable Player award. Brady previously won the award in 2007.

Speaking with Boston Globe columnist Bob Ryan and former Patriots teammate Troy Brown, Brady said the award doesn't make sense to him because football is a team sport.

"I can understand the Most Valuable Golfer or something like that," Brady said, before mentioning Eagles quarterback Michael Vick and Colts quarterback Peyton Manning as great players who fit what their teams do well.

"Unfortunately, it's really a quarterback award. Not a lot of other great players get that recognition, which they probably should. There are so many great players in the league. I guess it's something that they have to do. The only award I ever care about is a Super Bowl ring. That's the only one that's important to me."

Way to be classy Brady.

I couldn't agree more with Brady here. On the other end of the spectrum, here's Vick's take. Vick Picks Vick (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=capress-fbn_eagles_vick-5492133)

In all fairness, he did say this before his performance versus Minny. Perhaps he'd change his pick if asked now? :wink:

[keithy_19]

I couldn't agree more with Brady here. On the other end of the spectrum, here's Vick's take. Vick Picks Vick (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=capress-fbn_eagles_vick-5492133)

In all fairness, he did say this before his performance versus Minny. Perhaps he'd change his pick if asked now? :wink:

When I re-read my comment it comes off as sarcastic but it wasn't meant to be. That was a good response by Brady. Vick saying he would vote for himself just came off as...well..yeah. Kind of seems like a trend with some Eagles players.

[spoon]

Yah I understood what you meant Keithy.

http://youarestruggling.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/stay-classy1.jpg

[PapaBear]

When I re-read my comment it comes off as sarcastic but it wasn't meant to be
I thought it was, too. Rule of thumb... With the typed word, avoid "way to" unless you intend to be sarcastic.

[weekapaugjz]

way to explain the rules of sarcasm.

[PapaBear]

way to explain the rules of sarcasm.
I'm trying to help him! He's an aspiring WRITER!!! :furious:

[keithy_19]

I'm trying to help him! He's an aspiring WRITER!!! :furious:

Thankfully my writing is painfully dry and overly void of any emotion. Just like my women!

Am I right fella's? AmIRight?

[spoon]

Thankfully my writing is painfully dry and overly void of any emotion. Just like my women!

Am I right fella's? AmIRight?

wait, u have women?

[keithy_19]

wait, u have women?

Clearly they are all dead. But...yes, they are women.

[TjM]

Even if Brady wins unanimously, the Pats will say they are not respected. God, I fucking hate them all.

But they always speak so highly of you :glurps:

[TjM]

Devin McCourty FTW!

[weekapaugjz]

and brady wins the award unanimously. first time that's ever happened.

[TheGameHHH]

cause he's fucking awesome

and if not for some dumbass in 2007 voting for Favre he would have done it twice

[spoon]

cause he's fucking awesome

and if not for some dumbass in 2007 voting for Favre he would have done it twice

Shit, we had 4-5 people here vote for someone else in this poll. The only I think wasn't serious, (actually I know) was the Sanchez vote. TS was being a homer among some others.

[TheGameHHH]

Shit, we had 4-5 people here vote for someone else in this poll. The only I think wasn't serious, (actually I know) was the Sanchez vote. TS was being a homer among some others.

but here's the weird thing, this season I could absolutely see people casting votes for somebody else. I was shocked Brady won it unanimously. I think he deserved to win it but I wouldn't be surprised if some guys cast votes for other players this year. But for him to not win it unanimously in 2007 was insane.

[underdog]

but here's the weird thing, this season I could absolutely see people casting votes for somebody else. I was shocked Brady won it unanimously. I think he deserved to win it but I wouldn't be surprised if some guys cast votes for other players this year. But for him to not win it unanimously in 2007 was insane.

He led an average at best team to a 14-2 record. He threw 4 picks all year with Deion Branch as his #1 WR (well, for 10 games or so). His two RBs were an undrafted guy and someone cut in the beginning of the season by the Jets. His two starting TEs were rookies. What he did with his team was fucking remarkable.

[TheGameHHH]

He led an average at best team to a 14-2 record. He threw 4 picks all year with Deion Branch as his #1 WR (well, for 10 games or so). His two RBs were an undrafted guy and someone cut in the beginning of the season by the Jets. His two starting TEs were rookies. What he did with his team was fucking remarkable.

i never said he didnt deserve to win it, i think he did. its just this year i can see guys voting for other people and be fine with it. i dont get that one Favre vote in 2007, it makes no sense to me.

[underdog]

i never said he didnt deserve to win it, i think he did. its just this year i can see guys voting for other people and be fine with it. i dont get that one Favre vote in 2007, it makes no sense to me.

I think his season this year was actually better than 2007.

But Favre getting the single vote in 2007 was a joke.

[Justice4all]

and brady wins the award unanimously. first time that's ever happened.

if it takes you more then 2 minutes to TRY to think of someone who had a comparable year to Brady's than it makes sense. I don't think anyone can touch the season he had this year.

[spoon]

if it takes you more then 2 minutes to TRY to think of someone who had a comparable year to Brady's than it makes sense. I don't think anyone can touch the season he had this year.

You picked Vick.

[cougarjake13]

and brady wins the award unanimously. first time that's ever happened.

yeh i figured at least the philly guy voting for vick

[jonyrotn]

and brady wins the award unanimously. first time that's ever happened.
I convinced...
I'm just waiting for him to turn water into wine...

With no-name receivers he was awesome, then he gets Randy Moss and throws for the most TD's in the history of the game..
But still doesn't win the MVP..
He had to make it a "no doubter"..

[Justice4all]

You picked Vick.

I know. I don't remember when I picked him, but it must have been during that run where he looked unstoppable. Next time I wait until the END of the season before I make that decision.

[spoon]

I know. I don't remember when I picked him, but it must have been during that run where he looked unstoppable. Next time I wait until the END of the season before I make that decision.

Nope, you're just a tart. I posted this in between week 16 and 17. So there was only one game at best left and Vick didn't even play in week 17. Hence, you had his whole year to factor in your dumb choice.

[sailor]

Nope, you're just a tart. I posted this in between week 16 and 17. So there was only one game at best left and Vick didn't even play in week 17. Hence, you had his whole year to factor in your dumb choice.

actually. it looks like you posted it an hour into the humbling philly loss to the vikings in week 16 (at a point in the game when philly was up). that loss, plus yet another game vick didn't play week 17 could easily have swayed someone on the fence.

[Justice4all]

Nope, you're just a tart. I posted this in between week 16 and 17. So there was only one game at best left and Vick didn't even play in week 17. Hence, you had his whole year to factor in your dumb choice.

So I was wrong.
Blow me professor.