The Wrestling Death Clock

[Tenbatsuzen]

Does anyone know where we stand on the wrestling Deathclock? I'm guessing we are about halfway to 90 days. Who was the last to die - was it Giant Gonzalez or Luna?

[cougarjake13]

Does anyone know where we stand on the wrestling Deathclock? I'm guessing we are about halfway to 90 days. Who was the last to die - was it Giant Gonzalez or Luna?



gonzalez i think

[benjamin21open]

Does anyone know where we stand on the wrestling Deathclock? I'm guessing we are about halfway to 90 days. Who was the last to die - was it Giant Gonzalez or Luna?
As far as i remember its Luna that died last man.

[thevalyard]

Not your traditional wrestling death but Édouard Carpentier died of a heart attack at age 84 last week

[Freitag]

gonzalez i think

As far as i remember its Luna that died last man.

I actually checked - it was Gonzalez on 9/22 - and we are more than halfway through the 90 day window.

[benjamin21open]

Sorry with the wrong info...
I checked it to and its really Gonzales.

[Freitag]

Basically, the deal is this:

If we make it to Christmas, we've beaten the clock.

[Freitag]

UPDATE - We are two and half weeks away from beating the clock!

[Sue_Bender]

UPDATE - We are two and half weeks away from beating the clock!

This is surely a jinx. :flush:

[cougarjake13]

UPDATE - We are two and half weeks away from beating the clock!

This is surely a jinx. :flush:




my moneys on jeff hardy

[StanUpshaw]

http://i.imgur.com/V1uWx.jpg

Good lord, that's a lot of dead wrestlers.

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://i.imgur.com/V1uWx.jpg

Good lord, that's a lot of dead wrestlers.

Rikishi's not dead. The only one who's dead in that is Test.

[StanUpshaw]

Rikishi's not dead? Who am I thinking of?

But Test, Big Boss Man and British Bulldog are definitely dead.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Rikishi's not dead? Who am I thinking of?

But Test, Big Boss Man and British Bulldog are definitely dead.

I believe you're thinking of Umaga.

And that isn't Bulldog either, if you're referring to the person in blue pants. Looks like Jamie Noble or something. Bulldog is not that short.

[StanUpshaw]

I will bet you a zillion dollars that it is.

[Fallon]

And that isn't Bulldog either, if you're referring to the person in blue pants. Looks like Jamie Noble or something. Bulldog is not that short.

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[Tenbatsuzen]

I apologize, I was incorrect.

Who would have fucking guessed that the most unhealthy looking person out of the four of them would still be alive 10 years later?

[instrument]

you're saying rikishi looks unhealthy? really? cause he's overweight and Samoan?

[Tenbatsuzen]

you're saying rikishi looks unhealthy? really? cause he's overweight and Samoan?

Well, out of those four guys, Rikishi looks the unhealthiest. In fact, Bossman had lost a ton of weight in that time frame. We knew DBS was roided.

[Bob Impact]

you're saying rikishi looks unhealthy? really? cause he's overweight and Samoan?

I would say weighing 375+ is unhealthy.

[Tenbatsuzen]

three more days and we'll have made 90 days!

[disneyspy]

king curtis was considered a major death of this year, dec 3rd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Deaths

[hanso]

Skip Young
Also on that date.

After making his debut in Florida Championship Wrestling, Skip Young originally wrestled as the masked Sweet Brown Sugar winning the NWA Southern Heavyweight Championship three times between 1979 and 1982


After leaving the Florida region in 1984, Young began wrestling unmasked in the Texas-area where he began teaming with "Pistol" Pez Whatley

[Zorro]

king curtis was considered a major death of this year, dec 3rd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Deaths

The guy was 73 with leukemia. Does that count?

[foodcourtdruide]

The guy was 73 with leukemia. Does that count?

My vote is nay.

[disneyspy]

My vote is nay.

im not familiar with the rules so i'll go by your vote

[Fallon]

im not familiar with the rules so i'll go by your vote
The nay's have it!

[CYYYFYYY]

You guys are reaching. I am sorry but only under 50 I would think unless the death was insane despite the age like getting shot buying steriods. I would go higher than 50 if it is a major star still active (Hogan, Flair, Brutus Beefcake or just a major name in genral and I am not counting Bruno)

[RF Godfather]

*scratches head*

[Tenbatsuzen]

*scratches head*

you are the funniest motherfucker on SP, btw.

[hanso]

The The Wrestling Death Clock title is up for grabs. Who will fall down and take it?

[Space Edge]

Deadspin put out a article today listening all the Wrestlers that died in 2010

http://deadspin.com/5727882/

[cougarjake13]

wow


so many of them i have never heard of

[Tenbatsuzen]

I could be wrong, but we're coming up on six months.

[Tenbatsuzen]

As a heads up, I'm going to make some rules for the Wrestling Death Clock:

1) The dead wrestler should have worked for one of the four main promotions during the last 30 years - WWF/E, WCW, ECW, or TNA. It should have been a prolonged run, not just a tryout match or a cup of coffee. Indy wrestlers don't count. Sorry.

2) The dead wrestler is under the age of 60. That's why King Curtis doesn't count.

3) Cause of death - the stigma of the Wrestling Death Clock is that the business chews you up and spits you out, so death like drugs, suicide, heart attack from enlarged heart because of drugs, etc. are acceptable. If the wrestler dies of cancer or something that isn't related to the business, a possible exception can be made. I call it the Earthquake Rule.

Any thoughts on this?

[newport king]

i vote nay on the earthquake rule. other than that, here here.

[Bob Impact]

i vote nay on the earthquake rule. other than that, here here.

I vote for it, but only in the case of cancers/other illness that wasn't brought on by a life of excess.

[StanUpshaw]

Sweet 'n' Sour Larry Sweeny (1981 – 2011)
http://i.imgur.com/YFdQU.jpg

Independent wrestler and manager Larry Sweeney passed away either late last night or early this morning. He was 29.

Sweeney (born Alex Whybrow) committed suicide by hanging himself at a wrestling school in Lake Charles, Louisiana.

He began wrestling in 2004 after training under Mike Quackenbush, Skayde and Chris Hero and CHIKARA’s Wrestle Factory and further training from the late “Playboy” Buddy Rose and Col. DeBeers in Oregon.

While Sweeney worked in a variety of independent organizations across the country he was most well known for his work in his home promotion of CHIKARA and Ring of Honor.

In CHIKARA Sweeney led a stable known as Sweet ‘n’ Sour International and captured the Young Lions Cup, among various other ventures.
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He joined Ring of Honor in 2006 and led another stable, this one simply called Sweet ‘n’ Sour, Inc. He managed a variety of talents including his former trainer Chris Hero, Claudio Castagnoli, Eddie Edwards, Sara Del Rey, Bobby Dempsey, Tank Toland and Matt Sydal, among others.

In April 2009 he left Ring of Honor, citing monetary issues.

He made a brief return to CHIKARA in late 2010 as the masked Vokodor, but it did not lead to a full time return to action.

Whybrow battled depression his entire life and encountered drug issues later in his life, which also affected his wrestling career. Apparently his problems only worsened once he left the spotlight he had encountered as a part of CHIKARA and especially Ring of Honor.

Unfortunately, the only time he spent with the WWE was here, playing the role of fake Nick Hogan:
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And here he is with our very own Prime Time Sam Roberts:
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[Tenbatsuzen]

Sweeney doesn't count. But Opie is right, Wrestling is a fucked up business and it's getting kind of creepy.

[sailor]

Sweeney doesn't count. But Opie is right, Wrestling is a fucked up business and it's getting kind of creepy.

it's their bit. who are you to say who counts?

[conman823]

Scott Halls ex wife has posted on her Twitter account that Scott has been hospitalized for a prescription drug overdose. The account has been confirmed to be Halls wife. She is asking for prayers because he may not make it through the night.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Scott Halls ex wife has posted on her Twitter account that Scott has been hospitalized for a prescription drug overdose. The account has been confirmed to be Halls wife. She is asking for prayers because he may not make it through the night.

If he dies... score one for the good guys!

[cougarjake13]

If he dies... score one for the good guys!

no updates must mean hes ok

[conman823]

no updates must mean hes ok

Kevin Nash recently wrote about the health status of Scott Hall, here is what he had to say…

"Over the last few weeks, since the horrifying New England appearance of Scott Hall, my Twitter page has blown up with plea's to help Scott. First of all, nobody has to ASK me to help Scott Hall. I consider Scott like a brother. He's much more than a friend. I have spent more time with Scott Hall in the last 18 years than I have with my wife in the 23 years we've been married. We have no secrets between each other. This is ‘real life'. Nobody knows what Scott has gone thru since early childhood to what he has gone thru up unto this point, except for me. I can tell you Scott Hall has neither a drug or alcohol addiction, Scott's problem is he suffer's from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Drugs and alcohol aren't the problem, to Scott they are the solution. He is a fragile and broken human being, not a race horse that you take a whip to to perform. Scott Hall is in bad shape and each time I talk to him I feel it may be the last. It's gotten to the point where I save his voice mails, much like I would've saved Andrew's (Tess), because I knew sometimes when I heard his message it could be the last. The media will want to blame wrestling when Scott passes. Scott was broken way before he broke into the ring for the first time."



Sounds really bad.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Sounds really bad.

and Nash is right. They'll blame Vince, but the ultimate enabling behavior started with WCW, not Vince.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Hall's out of the hospital... so he went from "not making it through the night" to out in 2 days?

[conman823]

That could just mean he's stable. They don't let you linger in hospitals these days unless your on deaths door.

Despite all his issues I really hope to see him make it. I'm just sick of them all dying

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Over 25% of the wrestlers from Wrestlemania VII are dead.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Over-25-percent-of-the-performers-from-Wrestlema?urn=top-wp132

[Fallon]

Over 25% of the wrestlers from Wrestlemania VII are dead.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Over-25-percent-of-the-performers-from-Wrestlema?urn=top-wp132

I wish 25 percent of the wrestlers from Wrestlemania 27 were dead.

[StanUpshaw]

Over 25% of the wrestlers from Wrestlemania VII are dead.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Over-25-percent-of-the-performers-from-Wrestlema?urn=top-wp132

I was going to research whether any Super Bowlers from that year were dead, but they saved me the trouble.

As wrestlinginc.com points out, none of the 44 starters from the Super Bowl played in 1991 have passed away and only two of 44 boxers who held a championship belt that year are gone.

The is the most impressive piece of journalism (wrestling or otherwise) I've read all year.

[BigRigRichard]

what about sam mazzola? he died 7/13/2011

http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2011/07/13/bear-wrestler-sam-mazzola-dies.aspx


LOL :)

[cougarjake13]

what about sam mazzola? he died 7/13/2011

http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2011/07/13/bear-wrestler-sam-mazzola-dies.aspx


LOL :)

dont know em

[MagillaGorillaz]

It's time to reset the clock, Chief Jay Strongbow went to the teepee in the sky.

[Kevin]

It's time to reset the clock, Chief Jay Strongbow went to the teepee in the sky.

Meh, I do not think he counts..

He was old. This is for the ones that die before they should have.

[cougarjake13]

I thought the death clock was for how u can't go x amount of time without a wrestler dying regardless of age or why

Like 100 days I think ?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I thought the death clock was for how u can't go x amount of time without a wrestler dying regardless of age or why

Like 100 days I think ?

No. The reason why the clock was made up in the first place was exactly for the reason Kevin said - a lot of wrestlers were dying before the age of 60 from various things - in other words, dying very early.

I'm not sure what age qualifier we put on there, but the clock is reset when a wrestler dies "young" from something other than a disease he had no control over getting (the Earthquake rule).

[mdr55]

RIP Chief Jay Strongbow

[Tenbatsuzen]

RIP Chief Jay Strongbow

He was 83!

[sailor]

He was 83!

age was only an issue to you, has nothing to do with it.

[conman823]

Sabu was found "non responsive" in his hotel room today.

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/236044/UPDATED:-Sabu-to-Miss-Tonights-Extreme-Reunion-Event.htm

[brettmojo]

Huh, thought he was already dead.

[StanUpshaw]

Sabu was found "non responsive" in his hotel room today.

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/236044/UPDATED:-Sabu-to-Miss-Tonights-Extreme-Reunion-Event.htm

Of course he's non responsive...HE'S SABU!

[Kevin]

No. The reason why the clock was made up in the first place was exactly for the reason Kevin said - a lot of wrestlers were dying before the age of 60 from various things - in other words, dying very early.

I'm not sure what age qualifier we put on there, but the clock is reset when a wrestler dies "young" from something other than a disease he had no control over getting (the Earthquake rule).

Yea, a wrestler dying of old age/ natural causes was not what this thread was made.

Wrestling is still on the clock.

[Chimee]

Sabu was found "non responsive" in his hotel room today.

http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/236044/UPDATED:-Sabu-to-Miss-Tonights-Extreme-Reunion-Event.htm

Some crazy glue and tape and he'll be fine.

[conman823]

Apparently he no selled his overdose and signed himself out of the ER when he regained consciousness.



EC DUB! EC DUB! EC DUB!

[sailor]

Yea, a wrestler dying of old age/ natural causes was not what this thread was made.

Wrestling is still on the clock.

Wrong. Thread was made based on the o&a bit, so it was based on their rules. They include old age deaths. If you want to debate it, fine, but you can't say it's how tyre thread/bit was originally structured.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

2/3 Of the Freebirds gone



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1426817-fabulous-freebird-buddy-roberts-passes-away-at-65

[Melk]

He was profiled in the mid-90s on the local news affiliate. I guess he was claiming some form of medical malpractice against Olympia Fields Hospital in the Chicago suburbs. I think they misdiagnosed his throat cancer.

[Section 8]

Posted on WWE.com

http://www.wwe.com/inside/paul-bearer-passes-26096670

Rest in Peace Paul.

[spoon]

wait, paul o was a wrestler

and he's dead?

:devil2:

[A.J.]

Posted on WWE.com

http://www.wwe.com/inside/paul-bearer-passes-26096670

Rest in Peace Paul.
Thoughts and prayers to the Undertaker and Kane.

[Fallon]

Thoughts and prayers to the Undertaker and Kane.

Tough love!
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[DarkHippie]

Ungrateful kids.

[conman823]

Reid Flair dead at the age of 24. Unreal.

[Gutter]

that's really sad.

[TripleSkeet]

Heroin is some bad fucking news.

[Gutter]

I feel like we should be worried about Ric now. he can survive 800 years as a Pro Wrestler, all the beatings, the traveling, the long weekends, the pain pills, the drinking....i'm not so sure he's got much longer after this news.

[conman823]

I feel like we should be worried about Ric now. he can survive 800 years as a Pro Wrestler, all the beatings, the traveling, the long weekends, the pain pills, the drinking....i'm not so sure he's got much longer after this news.

I was thinking the same thing. Every interview he spoke about Reid you could tell he really thought the kid could be great.

Just can't see how a guy as emotional as Flair is gonna recover fully from this tragedy

[cougarjake13]

sad news

[styckx]

Heroin huh. Fuck em. I have zero sympathy for drug addicts.

[newport king]

Heartless. How can you not feel bad for the old man?

[Kevin]

Heartless. How can you not feel bad for the old man?

Well...

If he didn't piss his money away on nonsense he might have been there more for him or set a better example

[Tenbatsuzen]

Well...

If he didn't piss his money away on nonsense he might have been there more for him or set a better example

LiKE Ric Flair Finance, launched in the fall of 2007? *facepalm*

[Kevin]

LiKE Ric Flair Finance, launched in the fall of 2007? *facepalm*

Come on..

Why wouldn't you trust Ric Flair with your money?

[styckx]

Heartless. How can you not feel bad for the old man?

Not talking about the old man. Just his kid. He choose his path..

[TripleSkeet]

Well...

If he didn't piss his money away on nonsense he might have been there more for him or set a better example

Meh. When it comes to drugs like that setting a good example means nothing. I see it happen around here every day. Nothing Flair could do until his kid actually wanted to get clean.

Im with styckx. I feel bad for Ric but have no sympathy for the junkie.

[conman823]

I never feel bad for the addict, especially when a young good looking kid like that should have been worried about making money hand over fist and banging 11's. instead you want to die in a hotel room alone and high.

I feel for the family.

[TripleSkeet]

instead you want to die in a hotel room alone and high.



Every day I expect to get that phone call about my brother. Eventually itll happen.

[Kevin]

Every day I expect to get that phone call about my brother. Eventually itll happen.

Damn bro, that sucks.

[conman823]

Every day I expect to get that phone call about my brother. Eventually itll happen.

My wife and I have had to go through it a couple of times in our families. My father in laws probably next.

Hope your brother comes around before its too late

[TripleSkeet]

Yea well, you never know. Honestly I just hope if its going to happen it happens sooner rather than later because for the last 10 years hes been killing my parents slowly with it. The stress something like that puts on a parent is unbelievable.

[keithy_19]

Heroin huh. Fuck em. I have zero sympathy for drug addicts.

I tend to agree. I feel bad for his family and his friends but the user assumes the risk when he does drugs. And for the record, I'm for the legalization of all drugs. But I also understand that when you do drugs you run the risk of ruining your life or dying. No sympathy for him. For his family, yes. I hate that they're grieving right now.

[keithy_19]

Meh. When it comes to drugs like that setting a good example means nothing. I see it happen around here every day. Nothing Flair could do until his kid actually wanted to get clean.

Im with styckx. I feel bad for Ric but have no sympathy for the junkie.

This is dead on. There's only so much you can do for an addict. At the end of the day the person using drugs needs to want to get clean. Unfortunately many never get there. As for his family I feel horrible.

[Kevin]

So you think he would not have had a better shot at not being on drugs if flair didnt spend all his time partying and wasting money?

Maybe he would still be but maybe not..

[styckx]

So you think he would not have had a better shot at not being on drugs if flair didnt spend all his time partying and wasting money?

Maybe he would still be but maybe not..

Maybe, maybe not.. Hard to say. Addicts turn hardcore drugs as an escape from life not being fair or because they were tight with a group of friends and just doing what the crowd did. All it takes is one to introduce it, and a few enablers. Been there done that. Being an impressionable youth has its risks. Took many trips to Kensington and Allegheny in my youth and you can ask Skeet.. You don't drive there to buy recreational drugs. I was one of the logical ones and noticed the road I was heading down and quit my faggotry cold turkey and delt with my boohoo life sucks problems myself. I tried getting some of my other `friends' out of it and they wanted none of it and resorted to mocking and insults. So I ditched em.. Fuck em.. They all became professional lying, cheating, excuse making pieces of shit. "Never trust a junkie" is the truth.. There comes a point that they are helpless and will end up stealing from their own mothers for the next fix. My own aunt did it to my grandmother.. You know how I visit my aunt? Search her name on Arizonas inmate websites. Junkies are just wired different.. They are flat.. There is nothing there.. Just cold dark soulless eyes.. If the devil exists.. I've seen it countless times.. Looking into a junkies eyes is one of the soulless things you can look at.

[TripleSkeet]

So you think he would not have had a better shot at not being on drugs if flair didnt spend all his time partying and wasting money?

Maybe he would still be but maybe not..

Complete coin toss. My parents have always been there for us. My dad is the kind of guy that if he had $10, hed give it to his kids and borrow another $20 from someone else and give that to them to. Always there, taught their kids right from wrong, never neglected us.

Personally, Ive tried pot about 3 times, extasy once and thats the extent of my drug use. My sister smoked pot recreationally for awhile, took a pill here and there and thats it. Neither one of us touch drugs now. My brother? Pot, pills, coke, crack, and heroin. Never finished high school. 30 years old, cant hold a job, acts like hes 16, currently living with friends after getting kicked out for stealing my parents clothes and selling them to Platos Closet. Swears up and down he doesnt have a drug problem though and has no intention of trying to get help.

[Kevin]

Complete coin toss. My parents have always been there for us. My dad is the kind of guy that if he had $10, hed give it to his kids and borrow another $20 from someone else and give that to them to. Always there, taught their kids right from wrong, never neglected us.

Personally, Ive tried pot about 3 times, extasy once and thats the extent of my drug use. My sister smoked pot recreationally for awhile, took a pill here and there and thats it. Neither one of us touch drugs now. My brother? Pot, pills, coke, crack, and heroin. Never finished high school. 30 years old, cant hold a job, acts like hes 16, currently living with friends after getting kicked out for stealing my parents clothes and selling them to Platos Closet. Swears up and down he doesnt have a drug problem though and has no intention of trying to get help.

I have never really been around anyone with hard drug use so I am going to take everyones that has, word for it.

I myself will never try a drug harder than weed because I just do not know how it will effect me.

Better be safe than sorry when drugs are involved.

[NickyL0885]

Drugs are bad, mmkay.

[styckx]

Fuck me.. Wrong thread

[TripleSkeet]

Doink the Clown died today. 56 years old.

[MHasegawa]

which one, matt borne or steve keirn??

[cougarjake13]

Matt Osborne

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Mae Young taken off life support

[asayresk]

Mae Young taken off life support
Rest In Peace

[Dirtbag]

Nelson "Mabel/Viscera/Big Daddy V" Frazier dies of a heart attack at 43.

[cougarjake13]

Wow I know they die young but I woulda thought he was 50