2011 New York Yankees Offseason Thread

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Might as well start it now.

Looks like a bunch of changes next year. Some wont be back

Pettitte will probably retire

Jeter will be back. I just hope they dont give him a ridiculous amt of money

See ya Jorge

Rivera will be back most likely

#1 Priority Cliff Lee

[RingWraith]

Might as well start it now.

Looks like a bunch of changes next year. Some wont be back

Pettitte will probably retire

Jeter will be back. I just hope they dont give him a ridiculous amt of money

See ya Jorge

Rivera will be back most likely

#1 Priority Cliff Lee

:unsure:

[TheGameHHH]

so, let's get lee????!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They should bring up Montero for 2011. He had a decent yr in Scranton

[spoon]

They should bring up Montero for 2011. He had a decent yr in Scranton

He's worse defensively than Jorge, who by the way is signed next year. Good luck with that 13+ million dollar contract. Do yankee fans even know their own fucking team and contracts?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

He's worse defensively than Jorge, who by the way is signed next year. Good luck with that 13+ million dollar contract. Do yankee fans even know their own fucking team and contracts?

My bad on the contract issue. However do you want a 40 year old catcher who hits .250 or someone who hits for average who is 22 ? He can transition to a DH

[Barnaby Jones]

Jorge's 2010 line with the Yanks:

.248 .357 .454 .811

That's excellent for a catcher!!!!!

[Snoogans]

My bad on the contract issue. However do you want a 40 year old catcher who hits .250 or someone who hits for average who is 22 ? He can transition to a DH

fuck that, trade him and 4 of your awesome prospects to st louis for pujols. throw in Joba and have them throw in Wainwright while you are at it. Then sign cliff lee and whoever else is available. The sox spent all their money on a soccer team, so the yankees might actually be able to get EVERY single FA this year. AWESOME

[TheGameHHH]

He's worse defensively than Jorge, who by the way is signed next year. Good luck with that 13+ million dollar contract. Do yankee fans even know their own fucking team and contracts?

it doesnt mean they cant call him up

[WRESTLINGFAN]

They should try to deal Swisher. He's relatively cheap. Theres talk of Jason Werth for RF. Get Crawford for LF and keep Granderson.

Pujols could be a stretch thats the franchise of St L , but I could see Wainright in pinstripes

[hanso]

Wasn't Lee pitching the last game when only 3 hits were mustered. Try to get Lee if you can. But some clutch hitting would go a long ways.

[Tenbatsuzen]

it doesnt mean they cant call him up

Precisely. Posada is getting old and has been injured a few times. Probably what will happen is that the Yankees will call up Jesus and potentially DFA Cervelli or something. Or split time at DH between Posada and Montero.

[Tenbatsuzen]

They should try to deal Swisher. He's relatively cheap. Theres talk of Jason Werth for RF. Get Crawford for LF and keep Granderson.

Pujols could be a stretch thats the franchise of St L , but I could see Wainright in pinstripes

Why the fuck would they trade Swisher? The fans love him, the clubhouse loves him, and he's relatively cheap, as you said.

Werth hasn't exactly been lighting up the postseason, and I don't think Crawford is coming here either.

I think the only FA the Yankees are targeting this year is Lee, and they have to see what Andy's decision is first.

[A.J.]

They should try to deal Swisher. He's relatively cheap. Theres talk of Jason Werth for RF. Get Crawford for LF and keep Granderson.

Swisher was one of the best pickups they made in the last few years. They'd be dumb to let him go.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I think the only FA the Yankees are targeting this year is Lee, and they have to see what Andy's decision is first.

Disregard this comment. I forgot Javy is done so Andy's decision doesn't matter in the Lee pursuit. The rotation would either be CC-Lee-Phil-Andy-AJ or CC-Lee-Phil-AJ-Nova

[epo]

so, let's get lee????!

Hence my hatred of the Yankees.

[Fugitive]

Total lack of concentration. No focus. Humiliation. Back to the stench of New Yawk.

ha-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

--Fugitive

[newport king]

They should try to deal Swisher. He's relatively cheap. Theres talk of Jason Werth for RF. Get Crawford for LF and keep Granderson.

Pujols could be a stretch thats the franchise of St L , but I could see Wainright in pinstripes

do you ever wonder why people HATE yankee fans?

[newport king]

82.5 million for burnett and they didnt even want to pitch him in the post season. fuck that franchise and their self entitled front running fans.

[spoon]

it doesnt mean they cant call him up

I see him as a Sept call up or earlier depending on Jorge's health and how Cervelli steps up when called. He may be a clear DH of the future, bc his d at first is even more suspect from what I read. So much that they haven't even tried it out just yet. Add in the fact you have pretty much the best defensive first baseman lined up for a while, it truly isn't a great option. He's going to be a spot starter behind the plate (can't be worse than Jorge) and mostly get time at the DH spot.

As for his progression, this year he moved up to trip A and hit below .300 (.289) for the first time since his first year with the yank org in 07 at the age of 17-18 when he hit .280. He'll only be 21 late this November so he'll also most likely fill out more gaining more power. He already hits for above average power (slightly) and looks to be a doubles machine so gaining a touch of power and playing at yankee stadium should boost his numbers even if hitting righty.

Overall, I love him at the plate but not behind it. If the yanks are smart, they make a decision on him soon and start getting him used to DH if that's their grand plan. They did it for the first time in his career in trip A this year, so perhaps they already have. Also, he is 20 so it's not like he can't develop his defense behind the plate or at first. It's his size and athleticism that seems to suggest it's just not in him but we'll see.

I have kept up on him a lot bc the Jays were looking into him at multiple times when moving the likes of Halladay, Downs, Wallace and some others. It never came to be, but I have to say it looks like this kid will be a gap hitting monster.

quick note....international free agent signing at high cost for age/level

[spoon]

82.5 million for burnett and they didnt even want to pitch him in the post season. fuck that franchise and their self entitled front running fans.

yep

nking is the man

[spoon]

Wasn't Lee pitching the last game when only 3 hits were mustered. Try to get Lee if you can. But some clutch hitting would go a long ways.

Nolan Ryan's little dig at the yanks and mlb on the Lee situation was pretty solid when he answered questions on retaining Lee by saying, "that depends on the yankees doesn't it?"

ouch and so true

Lee has fucking moved enough too. It just shows how bullshit the whole MLB system is at this point. He's a fucking hired gun having played at one point on 4 teams in just over a year. Come on, if that isn't an issue when it's a TOP level guy, what is? There's a good chance Ryan and crew will keep him bc Nolan is no pushover, but never doubt the yankee's ability to take from their main competition while adding to their own resources at any cost. How do they make it every year?

[foodcourtdruide]

82.5 million for burnett and they didnt even want to pitch him in the post season. fuck that franchise and their self entitled front running fans.

Eh, you can say the same thing about the Giants for not including Zito on the roster. Sadly, with the inflated salaries of SP (length wise/money wise), we're going to be seeing more of this. It's simply not common for a pitcher to maintain dominance into their 30's.

[Snacks]

Eh, you can say the same thing about the Giants for not including Zito on the roster. Sadly, with the inflated salaries of SP (length wise/money wise), we're going to be seeing more of this. It's simply not common for a pitcher to maintain dominance into their 30's.

the difference is that has hurt SF every year when it comes to signing free agents. Because they cant make up for that big mistake they havent been able to sign any big name big bat free agents. The only reason SF is doing well this year is their own young, cheap talent had great years. The problem now is if these young guys continue to do well they will not be able to sign them all come free agency because of Zito. Do you know last year or the year before SF wasnt expected to even have 50 hrs for their entire team? When they talked about teams preseason they expected their pitching to do great but still be bad because they had no one to hit the ball except bengie molina.

Every other team only has so much money to spread around and a mistake like Burnett, Zito will cripple a team for 3-5 years. The yanks wont miss a beat with that bad signing. Yes that signing might hurt them in 1 game during the post season but they have so many high priced, big named talent to fill the holes when something like this happens. And if they do lose they just throw more money at it like they will with lee.

[newport king]

Werth hasn't exactly been lighting up the postseason



really? i haven't really looked at his numbers but i watched him throw cody ross out at 3rd and always seems to get a clutch hit when needed. i do hear he's a bit of a dick though. i would be too with that skill and rockstar hair.

[Snoogans]

They should try to deal Swisher. He's relatively cheap. Theres talk of Jason Werth for RF. Get Crawford for LF and keep Granderson.

Pujols could be a stretch thats the franchise of St L , but I could see Wainright in pinstripes
dude, did you really think I was fuckin serious? the whole point was to show how assanine yankee fan expectations are. I guess I didnt make it assanine enough cause you actually expect that

[Tenbatsuzen]

really? i haven't really looked at his numbers but i watched him throw cody ross out at 3rd and always seems to get a clutch hit when needed. i do hear he's a bit of a dick though. i would be too with that skill and rockstar hair.

I would be more shocked if Crawford is still available that the Yankees sign Werth over Crawford.

[newport king]

ask a yankee fan what they want their rotation to be it'll be something like CC, Lee, Wainwright, Verlander, Lincecum.

[Tenbatsuzen]

ask a yankee fan what they want their rotation to be it'll be something like CC, Lee, Wainwright, Verlander, Lincecum.

Mouth breathing, WFAN-calling, asshole Yankee fans, yes. Not all of us.

I was completely against the Lee trade when it was proposed in the middle of the season, and I am not broken up by the fact they are out of the playoffs. It was a fun season but you knew this team was not as strong as it was last season.

[spoon]

yep in hindsight we all KNEW this same exact team wouldn't make it from May through October

[spoon]

Lee not so sold on NY. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjypVhgESj1e.oW_1gd_MHdDubYF?slug=jp-leealcsgamesix102310)

"Nobody will outbid the Yankees, either, not after their pitching lost them the ALCS. The Rangers exposed New York’s rotation as heroin-chic thin, tagging Yankees starters for 25 runs in 31 2/3 innings pitched. What at the beginning of the season ranked among the best group of starters in baseball – CC Sabathia(notes), Pettitte, Burnett, Javier Vazquez(notes) and Phil Hughes(notes) – in the end was a broken, beaten and monstrously overpaid bunch.

New York spent $64.5 million on its rotation this season. The Rangers’ opening day payroll was $55.3 million.

“It’s about pitching,” Yankees catcher Jorge Posada(notes) said. “It’s about pitching here. You win series with pitching, and we didn’t do it.”

And thus it triggers a Yankees motto: What thou can’t do, thou shalt get."

[spoon]

The above is from the article, but I'd like to add it wasn't just the pitching that did them in as they hit .201 in the series as noted.

[RingWraith]

The above is from the article, but I'd like to add it wasn't just the pitching that did them in as they hit .201 in the series as noted.

Agreed. It was stark contrast from a year ago where the Yanks got all the big hits in the playoffs.

Oh well, looking forward to next season.

[zildjian361]

I'll Be back:down:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

dude, did you really think I was fuckin serious? the whole point was to show how assanine yankee fan expectations are. I guess I didnt make it assanine enough cause you actually expect that

While anything's possible. It probably wont happen especially Pujols. They let him leave and St L becomes a warzone

[Sinestro]

Is Ichiro available? He hits like every year.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

it doesnt mean they cant call him up

How bad is Montero definsively? From what Ive heard and seeing his stats he's got a great average. Wasn't he player of the year in AAA ?

[Justice4all]

fuck that, trade him and 4 of your awesome prospects to st louis for pujols. throw in Joba and have them throw in Wainwright while you are at it. Then sign cliff lee and whoever else is available. The sox spent all their money on a soccer team, so the yankees might actually be able to get EVERY single FA this year. AWESOME

PLEASE tell me you're kidding.

Jorge sucks as a defensive catcher but is a decent hitter and not bad in the clutch. It also helps he is a switch hitter.

I saw trade AJ and Joba for a better backup catcher who will eventually take over Jorge's spot when he is done and a possible pitcher.

Re-sign Wood as the setup man, because it seems after all his problems in the majors that is a good role for him. He didn't do so bad in that position.


Re-sign MO for two, MAYBE three years. But we better start looking for good closers NOW to set up for his eventual retirement.
We don't need anyone in the infield (once we re-sign Jeter). The outfield, maybe one or two positions. We just need to bolster up the pitching mostly.

And as for getting Lee....if Petite retires maybe. But assuming Hughes has the same season next year he did this year and so does CC, I don't know if Lee will be worth what we might give up for him.

[Justice4all]

dude, did you really think I was fuckin serious? the whole point was to show how assanine yankee fan expectations are. I guess I didnt make it assanine enough cause you actually expect that

Oh thank you. For a second I thought you lost your fucking mind.

[TheGameHHH]

PLEASE tell me you're kidding.

Jorge sucks as a defensive catcher but is a decent hitter and not bad in the clutch. It also helps he is a switch hitter.

I saw trade AJ and Joba for a better backup catcher who will eventually take over Jorge's spot when he is done and a possible pitcher.

Re-sign Wood as the setup man, because it seems after all his problems in the majors that is a good role for him. He didn't do so bad in that position.


Re-sign MO for two, MAYBE three years. But we better start looking for good closers NOW to set up for his eventual retirement.
We don't need anyone in the infield (once we re-sign Jeter). The outfield, maybe one or two positions. We just need to bolster up the pitching mostly.

And as for getting Lee....if Petite retires maybe. But assuming Hughes has the same season next year he did this year and so does CC, I don't know if Lee will be worth what we might give up for him.

One of the things that bothers me is people seem to think closers, and closing for that matter, is usually a defined spot by somebody in the major leagues. there's not going to be another Mariano, whoever takes that role once Mo leaves is going to be worse than him. there's no reason to start looking for a good closer, they come and go in the big leagues every single season. of course the bullpen is important but theres no use in trying to find the next great closer, its virtually impossible.

and what do you mean what the yankees would give up for lee? he's a FA, they would be giving up money. especially if pettitte retires that rotation is suspect at best outside of CC and Hughes.

[Justice4all]

and what do you mean what the yankees would give up for lee? he's a FA, they would be giving up money. especially if pettitte retires that rotation is suspect at best outside of CC and Hughes.

Ok with Jeter and Lee both available, which one do you take? I know the Yanks have more money then 99% of the rest of the league but I don't think they would have enough for BOTH players, do you?

[Snacks]

Ok with Jeter and Lee both available, which one do you take? I know the Yanks have more money then 99% of the rest of the league but I don't think they would have enough for BOTH players, do you?

they have and spend more money then 100% of the league. dont try to be cute with your 99%. Also they will pay Jeter 20-30 million a year for 3-4 years. They will so over pay him just to keep him as a thank you for past services, even though he was overpaid for those services as well.

Even overpaying Jeter they will still spend another 20-40 million a year this off-season in free agency.

[TheGameHHH]

Here's an update on the plans for Montero via Cashman today:

Cashman indicated Jesus Montero will be given a chance to win a big league job in spring training. “I do have people who believe he’s Major League-ready at the catcher position with a tremendous offensive bat,” Cashman said. “But nothing gets handed to somebody. You take it and earn it. He’ll have a chance to come to Spring Training and fight for something and show that he’s ready for something more at a higher level or not.”

[Justice4all]

they have and spend more money then 100% of the league. dont try to be cute with your 99%. Also they will pay Jeter 20-30 million a year for 3-4 years. They will so over pay him just to keep him as a thank you for past services, even though he was overpaid for those services as well.

Even overpaying Jeter they will still spend another 20-40 million a year this off-season in free agency.

Sorry....but when the Red Sox and Mets are not that far off from the salaries they pay and we pay...I'll stick to 99%.

[Snacks]

Sorry....but when the Red Sox and Mets are not that far off from the salaries they pay and we pay...I'll stick to 99%.

once again you are nuts. the yankess opening day team salary was 206 million. the next closest was boston at 162 million. even that is still 44 million and 25% less then the yanks to start with. the mets are 132 million that 74 million less or 30-35% less. Its not even close so stick with what you want but you sound like an idiot when you talk like that.

[spoon]

Sorry....but when the Red Sox and Mets are not that far off from the salaries they pay and we pay...I'll stick to 99%.

That's stupid bc they are both double digit millions behind the yankees and are only trying to stay somewhat close, especially in Boston's case so NY doesn't get anyone on the cheap either. It's 100%. They spend more than 100% and have more than 100% of the rest of the league. You aren't being cute, you're being stupid. Here's a look at the 8 teams paying over 100 million. Notice the Mets are 5th by the way as well at $74 million LESS, while even #2 Boston is $44 million under the Yanks. Dig deeper and it's pretty comical.

2010 Team Payrolls
No. Team Payroll Average
1. New York Yankees $206,333,389 $8,253,336
2. Boston Red Sox $162,747,333 $5,611,977
3. Chicago Cubs $146,859,000 $5,439,222
4. Philadelphia Phillies $141,927,381 $5,068,835
5. New York Mets $132,701,445 $5,103,902
6. Detroit Tigers $122,864,929 $4,550,553
7. Chicago White Sox $108,273,197 $4,164,354
8. Los Angeles Angels $105,013,667 $3,621,161

[Justice4all]

That's stupid bc they are both double digit millions behind the yankees and are only trying to stay somewhat close, especially in Boston's case so NY doesn't get anyone on the cheap either. It's 100%. They spend more than 100% and have more than 100% of the rest of the league. You aren't being cute, you're being stupid. Here's a look at the 8 teams paying over 100 million. Notice the Mets are 5th by the way as well at $74 million LESS, while even #2 Boston is $44 million under the Yanks. Dig deeper and it's pretty comical.

2010 Team Payrolls
No. Team Payroll Average
1. New York Yankees $206,333,389 $8,253,336
2. Boston Red Sox $162,747,333 $5,611,977
3. Chicago Cubs $146,859,000 $5,439,222
4. Philadelphia Phillies $141,927,381 $5,068,835
5. New York Mets $132,701,445 $5,103,902
6. Detroit Tigers $122,864,929 $4,550,553
7. Chicago White Sox $108,273,197 $4,164,354
8. Los Angeles Angels $105,013,667 $3,621,161

Eh. So I'm wrong. Big deal.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkn_7DRgXvv5dc6PBndJjtEQ7a74bHs ZpVYf10vt3g0iUoxWw&t=1&usg=__ynPw0ylDMJVKWbmDXX8GqV2WFKA=

[spoon]

Eh. So I'm wrong. Big deal.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkn_7DRgXvv5dc6PBndJjtEQ7a74bHs ZpVYf10vt3g0iUoxWw&t=1&usg=__ynPw0ylDMJVKWbmDXX8GqV2WFKA=

Things that happen often aren't usually a big deal in any way. So in that, you are RIGHT!

[Snacks]

Eh. So I'm wrong. Big deal.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkn_7DRgXvv5dc6PBndJjtEQ7a74bHs ZpVYf10vt3g0iUoxWw&t=1&usg=__ynPw0ylDMJVKWbmDXX8GqV2WFKA=

but you were wrong before I or spoon posted the amounts. How can you as a so called yankee fan not know this before hand? I think every retard who rides the little yellow bus to school knows this without being told the other teams payroll. The fact that you tried to argue it makes it comical. You couldnt have been serious, could you?

[A.J.]

That's stupid bc they are both double digit millions behind the yankees and are only trying to stay somewhat close, especially in Boston's case so NY doesn't get anyone on the cheap either. It's 100%. They spend more than 100% and have more than 100% of the rest of the league. You aren't being cute, you're being stupid. Here's a look at the 8 teams paying over 100 million. Notice the Mets are 5th by the way as well at $74 million LESS, while even #2 Boston is $44 million under the Yanks. Dig deeper and it's pretty comical.

2010 Team Payrolls
No. Team Payroll Average
1. New York Yankees $206,333,389 $8,253,336
2. Boston Red Sox $162,747,333 $5,611,977
3. Chicago Cubs $146,859,000 $5,439,222
4. Philadelphia Phillies $141,927,381 $5,068,835
5. New York Mets $132,701,445 $5,103,902
6. Detroit Tigers $122,864,929 $4,550,553
7. Chicago White Sox $108,273,197 $4,164,354
8. Los Angeles Angels $105,013,667 $3,621,161

To be honest, I think that number would be a lot closer between NY and Boston if the Sox played in a ballpark that held more than 37,000.

[sailor]

More interesting would be to see the revenue each team takes in. Whether they can afford to spend money matters more than how much they choose to spend.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Dave Eiland... FIRED!!!!!


http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/25/1890434/yanks-fire-pitching-coach-dave.html?source=rss_teams_Florida_Marlins

[TjM]

You stay classy New York

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5729471

[TheGameHHH]

More interesting would be to see the revenue each team takes in. Whether they can afford to spend money matters more than how much they choose to spend.

they also gain money from revenue sharing. the pirates have made over $30 million dollars the past two seasons from it, but have done dick to put it back into their team.

[TripleSkeet]

You stay classy New York

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5729471

God how I wish this would affect him signing with the Yankees next year.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Girardi is back for 3 more years


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5737221&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

[Justice4all]

Things that happen often aren't usually a big deal in any way. So in that, you are RIGHT!

Way to make an insult suck. you should have quit while you're ahead.

[Justice4all]

Girardi is back for 3 more years


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5737221&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

I guess they wanted to get the smaller deals done before having to get to Mo and Jeter. Saving the harder deals for last.

[Justice4all]

but you were wrong before I or spoon posted the amounts. How can you as a so called yankee fan not know this before hand? I think every retard who rides the little yellow bus to school knows this without being told the other teams payroll. The fact that you tried to argue it makes it comical. You couldnt have been serious, could you?

I'll let you try to figure that one out.:wallbash:

[Snacks]

I'll let you try to figure that one out.:wallbash:

I know you were serious just like you were serious when you thought Donnie baseball was a righty!!! wow just wow!

[spoon]

they also gain money from revenue sharing. the pirates have made over $30 million dollars the past two seasons from it, but have done dick to put it back into their team.

I think more teams should just go this route bc adding one player isn't going to launch the Pirates into the WS, not even the playoffs. And without rev sharing they lose money in a big way, so I guess they should have just spent money they weren't even sure to have.
By the numbers
A look at the financial figures released by Deadspin.com that detail some noteworthy income and expense categories for the Pirates, compared to four other Major League Baseball franchises for the 2008 season:
Category Pirates Angels Marlins Rays Mariners
Gate receipts $32,129,368 $103,209,000 $20,985,000 $39,013,069 $66,324,000
MLB revenue sharing $39,046,312 ($14,747,000) $47,982,000 $35,345,277 ($16,174,000)
MLB central fund $20,306,730 $27,191,000 $31,298,000 $19,778,648 $28,132,000
Local broadcasting $18,700,434 $42,967,000 $15,900,000 $13,444,475 $64,365,000
Concessions $8,283,870 $16,516,000 $2,268,000 $9,551,348* $11,240,000
Total income $145,993,437 $237,869,000 $139,647,000 $160,961,576 $216,200,000
Player salaries $51,040,233 $142,138,000 $29,739,000 $56,018,335 $119,408,000
Player development $23,182,677 $16,339,000 $29,970,000 $21,900693 $15,534,000
Total expenditures $124,203,035 $226,615,000 $100,433,000 $146,759,370 $223,872,000
Profit (after taxes) $14,408,249 $7,088,000 $29,462,000 $4,016,163 ($4,533,000)
*Includes parking revenue

"I don't think (the Pirates' profit levels) are outlandish, when you look at what they spend for player development," Brown said. "If you can develop talent and keep that talent, you have something to build on.

"The real problem in Pittsburgh is, you have 18 years of futility going on. When do you start turning the corner? What's it going to take? Any little bit of profit will be looked at as, 'Could that have been better spent?' "

Could they?

Gary Gillette, a former co-chair of the Society for American Baseball Research's business of baseball committee, said the Pirates likely are better served by putting their profits into player development.

"The underlying issue is one of trust in the ownership and management of the team," Gillette said. "Even if they spend an extra $20 million this year, there's not a player out there who they could get who would make a difference. And given how they said they want to build through the draft, it would almost seem irresponsible to do that. But the average fan doesn't want to hear that."

[Justice4all]

I know you were serious just like you were serious when you thought Donnie baseball was a righty!!! wow just wow!

:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

[spoon]

u were serious Tom

nice try

[Justice4all]

u were serious Tom

nice try

I never said I WASN'T

[spoon]

I never said I WASN'T

yet you eluded to it.....never mind :wallbash:

[Justice4all]

yet you eluded to it.....never mind :wallbash:

No the :wallbash: is how I feel when I try to deal with Snacks once in a while. Never was a eluding to anything else.

[spoon]

u love snacks and he can't get enough of your life!

[spoon]

u complete him

[Snacks]

No the :wallbash: is how I feel when I try to deal with Snacks once in a while. Never was a eluding to anything else.

why because I brought this up and i didnt wait for your birthdays like crippler does when he sends you a picture every year to support your lack of knowledge?

dont hate!

[Justice4all]

u love snacks and he can't get enough of your life!

Or live vicariously through it.

[spoon]

You see Snacks, here is a picture obviously from a game back in the 80's where Don Mattingly is CLEARLY batting/bunting as a righty.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_d1sQN688qbU/TJOttZZwGrI/AAAAAAAAAsw/HIuu519Qaek/s1600/hitman.jpg


YOU LOSE!

:lol:

[Snacks]

u love snacks and he can't get enough of your life!

wtf are you talking about? I cant get enough of his life? I got more of what I wanted when he lived with crippler. Trust me it was like watching a sitcom, one that should have been cancelled.

[Justice4all]

You see Snacks, here is a picture obviously from a game back in the 80's where Don Mattingly is CLEARLY batting/bunting as a righty.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_d1sQN688qbU/TJOttZZwGrI/AAAAAAAAAsw/HIuu519Qaek/s1600/hitman.jpg


YOU LOSE!

:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was fucking hysterical! Bravo!:clap:
(yes I know it was the insult to ME but that doesn't make it less funny)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Talks btwn Team Jeter and Yankee brass not starting off well


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5761615

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jeter gets another gold glove? As a Yankees fan You have got to be kidding. He basically had the same year as Marco Scutaro. I know this is going to piss off a lot of Yankee fans but if he wants 20MM per year let him walk. Lets see if the Cubs or Dodgers will offer him that much I dont care if he spent his entire career in NY. Ted Williams voluntarily took a pay cut after having a subpar year.

A 37 year old in 2011 should not be asking for a multi year deal with huge money

[Justice4all]

Yanks offer Jeter 3 years...45 million (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/11/19/derek.jeter.yankees/index.html?eref=sihp#)

Too few years? Too little money?
Opinions?

[sailor]

Yanks offer Jeter 3 years...45 million (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/11/19/derek.jeter.yankees/index.html?eref=sihp#)

Too few years? Too little money?
Opinions?

sounds right to me, but he'll probably want more of both. how long can you expect him to play?

[Barnaby Jones]

Way too much money!

[TheGameHHH]

Yanks offer Jeter 3 years...45 million (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/11/19/derek.jeter.yankees/index.html?eref=sihp#)

Too few years? Too little money?
Opinions?

Thank god somebody actually got it right, I've been saying that was going to be the offer for days yet everybody said they already offered him 3 years and 65 million.

It's obviously too much money but the Yankees don't really care. Jeter will most likely reject it cause he wants the 4th year, which the Yankees will eventually wind up giving to him. But who knows, maybe he's happy with the 3 years and he accepts it.

[KnoxHarrington]

Thank god somebody actually got it right, I've been saying that was going to be the offer for days yet everybody said they already offered him 3 years and 65 million.

It's obviously too much money but the Yankees don't really care. Jeter will most likely reject it cause he wants the 4th year, which the Yankees will eventually wind up giving to him. But who knows, maybe he's happy with the 3 years and he accepts it.

If Derek Jeter came to me for advice, I would tell him "If you think leaving the team that you are considered the heart and soul of is worth it, consider these two names, Derek: Brett Favre, and LeBron James."

He might just get confused, but, hey, that's damn good advice and he's lucky he asked me.

[Snacks]

Thank god somebody actually got it right, I've been saying that was going to be the offer for days yet everybody said they already offered him 3 years and 65 million.

It's obviously too much money but the Yankees don't really care. Jeter will most likely reject it cause he wants the 4th year, which the Yankees will eventually wind up giving to him. But who knows, maybe he's happy with the 3 years and he accepts it.

reports i read is he wants 6 years 120 million plus a share in memorabilia and merchandise sold after he gets to 3000 hits.

stay classy! he has already been over paid the past 10 years at 189 million. now he wants even more? hes nuts but no one to blame but the fans that have made him out to be a player and person he isnt. hes not a god but was lucky enough to get drafted by the yanks!

[TheGameHHH]

reports i read is he wants 6 years 120 million plus a share in memorabilia and merchandise sold after he gets to 3000 hits.

stay classy! he has already been over paid the past 10 years at 189 million. now he wants even more? hes nuts but no one to blame but the fans that have made him out to be a player and person he isnt. hes not a god but was lucky enough to get drafted by the yanks!

i dont know where youve read those reports, but anything ive read from people that talk regularly to cashman have nothing even close to that amount even being discussed

[Snacks]

i dont know where youve read those reports, but anything ive read from people that talk regularly to cashman have nothing even close to that amount even being discussed

it was reported on ESPN yesterday almost all day. Boomer and Carton reported the same thing in the morning. Saying they are 3 years and about 50 more million apart. Meaning 6 years total.

and here is some links. just go to google type in Jeter wants and see what comes up as you type without even finishing your search (6 years fills in the search engine for you) its been reported all over the place, how could you not have heard that?

http://blog.prorumors.com/2010/11/rumors/derek-jeter-wants-4-year-contract-maybe-5-or-6-years/

http://sports.gearlive.com/sports/article/q107-derek-jeter-reportedly-looking-for-six-year-deal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+endscore+(End+Score)

http://topics.npr.org/article/04IG8ANeaVgrq?q=Alex+Rodriguez

http://slidingintohome.blogspot.com/2010/11/jeter-wants-6-years.html

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/249335-jeter-yankees-50m-apart


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/columns/story?columnist=matthews_wallace&id=5818664

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2010/11/are_derek_jeter_and_the_yankee.html

[TheGameHHH]

it was reported on ESPN yesterday almost all day. Boomer and Carton reported the same thing in the morning. Saying they are 3 years and about 50 more million apart. Meaning 6 years total.

and here is some links. just go to google type in Jeter wants and see what comes up as you type without even finishing your search (6 years fills in the search engine for you) its been reported all over the place, how could you not have heard that?

http://blog.prorumors.com/2010/11/rumors/derek-jeter-wants-4-year-contract-maybe-5-or-6-years/

http://sports.gearlive.com/sports/article/q107-derek-jeter-reportedly-looking-for-six-year-deal/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+endscore+(End+Score)

http://topics.npr.org/article/04IG8ANeaVgrq?q=Alex+Rodriguez

http://slidingintohome.blogspot.com/2010/11/jeter-wants-6-years.html

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/249335-jeter-yankees-50m-apart


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/columns/story?columnist=matthews_wallace&id=5818664

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2010/11/are_derek_jeter_and_the_yankee.html

probably because ive actually tried to follow this truthfully rather than people running on blind speculation and writing things just to write them so they have a story. i didnt click all the links but the first two right off the bat say things like this, 'jeter wants 4 years.......but could he want 5 or 6?' thats just people saying things so they have a story to write. it'd be like knowing he'll take a 4 year 60 million dollar deal and writing something like, 'jeter wants 4 and 60, but could he want 10 years and $200 million?'

the writers that actually talk to cashman and steinbrenner have been reporting for days the only holdup seems to be the length in years, meaning between 3 and 4, rather than money.

[spoon]

probably because ive actually tried to follow this truthfully rather than people running on blind speculation and writing things just to write them so they have a story. i didnt click all the links but the first two right off the bat say things like this, 'jeter wants 4 years.......but could he want 5 or 6?' thats just people saying things so they have a story to write. it'd be like knowing he'll take a 4 year 60 million dollar deal and writing something like, 'jeter wants 4 and 60, but could he want 10 years and $200 million?'

the writers that actually talk to cashman and steinbrenner have been reporting for days the only holdup seems to be the length in years, meaning between 3 and 4, rather than money.

I can't tell you how much it pains me to agree with H, but I do. Also, let's all remember this is his last big contract for his playing career, he really shouldn't be just happy to take what they give him. I'm sure he's set for life, but would you just hand over your last years of any value bc they think you've been given enough?

[brettmojo]

probably because ive actually tried to follow this truthfully rather than people running on blind speculation and writing things just to write them so they have a story. i didnt click all the links but the first two right off the bat say things like this, 'jeter wants 4 years.......but could he want 5 or 6?' thats just people saying things so they have a story to write. it'd be like knowing he'll take a 4 year 60 million dollar deal and writing something like, 'jeter wants 4 and 60, but could he want 10 years and $200 million?'

the writers that actually talk to cashman and steinbrenner have been reporting for days the only holdup seems to be the length in years, meaning between 3 and 4, rather than money.
Quit making a non-story out of this non-story.

[Justice4all]

reports i read is he wants 6 years 120 million plus a share in memorabilia and merchandise sold after he gets to 3000 hits.

stay classy! he has already been over paid the past 10 years at 189 million. now he wants even more? hes nuts but no one to blame but the fans that have made him out to be a player and person he isnt. hes not a god but was lucky enough to get drafted by the yanks!

Care to elaborate on that one? He turns out to be one of the greatest Yankees of ALL TIME Most hits. And will be the only Yankee with over 3000 hits. Is one of the true faces of Baseball. Untarnished personalty.

No drunken mishaps, keeps his personal life cooled down. You don't see him making millions and dogging it on the field. Always tries to give 110%. Respected by just about every peer he has.

So he wants to play 5-6 years instead of just 3. Odds are he'll take the outfield and play there in the next 2-3 years when he can't do the SS position anymore. He'll still be a .270-.280 hitter in his last years, and for some people in baseball that's a GREAT year. He can clutch hit, smart base runner and leadership presence.

He'll be like Messier in the twilight of his career. Wasn't what he used to be on the ice but still made important plays and his leadership still carried them. THOSE are the things you pay the man for.


Show me evidence that he's an asshole or doesn't play to his fullest potential and I will take that into consideration.

He's not one of baseballs' 'golden child' for no reason. His play and his conduct made him earn that title.

[cougarjake13]

Care to elaborate on that one? He turns out to be one of the greatest Yankees of ALL TIME Most hits. And will be the only Yankee with over 3000 hits. Is one of the true faces of Baseball. Untarnished personalty.

No drunken mishaps, keeps his personal life cooled down. You don't see him making millions and dogging it on the field. Always tries to give 110%. Respected by just about every peer he has.

So he wants to play 5-6 years instead of just 3. Odds are he'll take the outfield and play there in the next 2-3 years when he can't do the SS position anymore. He'll still be a .270-.280 hitter in his last years, and for some people in baseball that's a GREAT year. He can clutch hit, smart base runner and leadership presence.

He'll be like Messier in the twilight of his career. Wasn't what he used to be on the ice but still made important plays and his leadership still carried them. THOSE are the things you pay the man for.


Show me evidence that he's an asshole or doesn't play to his fullest potential and I will take that into consideration.

He's not one of baseballs' 'golden child' for no reason. His play and his conduct made him earn that title.



or put him at dh

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Care to elaborate on that one? He turns out to be one of the greatest Yankees of ALL TIME Most hits. And will be the only Yankee with over 3000 hits. Is one of the true faces of Baseball. Untarnished personalty.

No drunken mishaps, keeps his personal life cooled down. You don't see him making millions and dogging it on the field. Always tries to give 110%. Respected by just about every peer he has.

So he wants to play 5-6 years instead of just 3. Odds are he'll take the outfield and play there in the next 2-3 years when he can't do the SS position anymore. He'll still be a .270-.280 hitter in his last years, and for some people in baseball that's a GREAT year. He can clutch hit, smart base runner and leadership presence.

He'll be like Messier in the twilight of his career. Wasn't what he used to be on the ice but still made important plays and his leadership still carried them. THOSE are the things you pay the man for.


Show me evidence that he's an asshole or doesn't play to his fullest potential and I will take that into consideration.

He's not one of baseballs' 'golden child' for no reason. His play and his conduct made him earn that title.

Agreed with those points however, Jeter doesnt have that leverage. In 2001 they offered him 7 years but he wanted 10 and they gave it to him. The leverage now is with the top brass. He lived up to his monster contract and played well. At 37 years old 3 yrs and 45 mm is more than generous.

If he decides to test the market. What other team will give him that money and contract or make him an everyday SS in 2011? If management decides to buckle and give him a 4th year I think that would also be beneficial. Yes he will be the 1st Yankee with 3K hits, however wanting 6 years and acting lie a prima donna might tarnish his image a bit.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I am in no way trying to downplay Jeter's resume. Of course he will go down as one of the greatest Yankees and certainly a 1st Ballot hall of famer but can you compare his individual achievements to Mantle, Dimaggio , Gehrig, Berra or Ruth?


Mantle 3 MVPs and a triple crown. Most WS Home Runs
Di Maggio. 56 Game Hitting Streak 3 Time MVP. And had Marilyn Monroe :clap:
Gehrig. Triple Crown Winner Twice MVP. PLayed in over 2K straight games
Berra 3 time MVP
Ruth, enough said.

Jeter never won an MVP. Never won a batting title. Yes he has the most post season hits but there are 2 extra rounds.

[Barnaby Jones]

An OF or a DH who is very likely to put up a sub-.775 OPS??!? Brilliant!!!!!

[Snacks]

An OF or a DH who is very likely to put up a sub-.775 OPS??!? Brilliant!!!!!

the biggest problem is you cant put him at dh and every single position player is better then him right now. jeter wont be a better OF then what they already have. he should move to 2nd but you cant take that from cano. im sure cano would want to continue his tear at 2b so he has a chance to go down as one of the best 2b ever. in all honesty he should have moved to 3b when arod came. arod was and probably still is a better ss then jeter.

i think most people that are objective do see jeter as being selfish especially from arod coming til now. by him not moving to 3rd when arod came it showed (to me) it was more about him then what was best for the team. now he wants to stay at ss even though there really isnt anywhere else for him to go and he is holding the yankess for making him become something for the fans that maybe he truly isnt. now hes using the captain title, the fans/sheeps that put him on a pedestal to try to rob the yanks. 3 years 45 million is more then hes worth. yet he wants 6 years and 21 per? come on!

[epo]

I'm sorry, but Cano shouldn't be thinking about "best ever" all time at his position when he's not arguably the best in the game during his prime.

Very good, but lets slow down on best ever talk.

[Snacks]

I'm sorry, but Cano shouldn't be thinking about "best ever" all time at his position when he's not arguably the best in the game during his prime.

Very good, but lets slow down on best ever talk.

who is better then him? Utley? maybe and thats about it. hes just getting into his prime now.

Should he change positions so jeter can play 2b? that would be even more selfish.

Im not saying he is thinking he is the best ever. But legacy matters to these guys and he has to be thinking about that. If he stays at 2b and continues to do what he has done he will go down as one of the best 2d ever.

[Snoogans]

who is better then him? Utley? maybe and thats about it. hes just getting into his prime now.

Should he change positions so jeter can play 2b? that would be even more selfish.

Im not saying he is thinking he is the best ever. But legacy matters to these guys and he has to be thinking about that. If he stays at 2b and continues to do what he has done he will go down as one of the best 2d ever.

ummm Dustin Padroia won an MVP. Just sayin

[Snacks]

ummm Dustin Padroia won an MVP. Just sayin

really? winning a mvp doesnt mean he is having a better career. if you compare them 2 cano is much better. dont be a homer.

[Snoogans]

really? winning a mvp doesnt mean he is having a better career. if you compare them 2 cano is much better. dont be a homer.

im just throwin names into the argument since you only brought up 1. And of course he doesnt have the career yet, he hasnt played as much. we were talkin about right now, the best second basemen, not the body of work.

and the stats are also closer than you would expect if you go check them out

[Snoogans]

162 game avgs for

Dustin Pedroia
AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
638 110 194 49 1 16 74 63 54 16 3 .305 .369 .460 .829

Robinson Cano
AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
631 92 195 43 4 21 91 34 75 4 4 .309 .347 .489 .836

stop being a homer

[epo]

As a non-Yankee fan, it's funny to read about Yankee fans talking about fiscal responsibility when it comes to Derek Jeter.

Actually, it's kind of hilarious when I think about it.

[sailor]

As a non-Yankee fan, it's funny to read about Yankee fans talking about fiscal responsibility when it comes to Derek Jeter.

Actually, it's kind of hilarious when I think about it.

How so? There's a difference between overpaying players and having a lot of high priced players. I don't focus much on salaries, but it seems they're talking about the former and your major issue is the latter.

[Justice4all]

the biggest problem is you cant put him at dh and every single position player is better then him right now. jeter wont be a better OF then what they already have. he should move to 2nd but you cant take that from cano. im sure cano would want to continue his tear at 2b so he has a chance to go down as one of the best 2b ever. in all honesty he should have moved to 3b when arod came. arod was and probably still is a better ss then jeter.

i think most people that are objective do see jeter as being selfish especially from arod coming til now. by him not moving to 3rd when arod came it showed (to me) it was more about him then what was best for the team. now he wants to stay at ss even though there really isnt anywhere else for him to go and he is holding the yankess for making him become something for the fans that maybe he truly isnt. now hes using the captain title, the fans/sheeps that put him on a pedestal to try to rob the yanks. 3 years 45 million is more then hes worth. yet he wants 6 years and 21 per? come on!

http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/2010_March/bugs_bunny.jpg

1st base...Derek Jeter
2nd base.....Derek Jeter
3rd Base....Derek Jeter
shortstop....Derek Jeter
Pitching....Derek Jeter
Catching.....Derek Jeter
Coaching.....Derek Jeter

[WRESTLINGFAN]

As a non-Yankee fan, it's funny to read about Yankee fans talking about fiscal responsibility when it comes to Derek Jeter.

Actually, it's kind of hilarious when I think about it.

Lets see how much the Brewers will be willing to spend to keep Fielder

[Snacks]

http://themoderatevoice.com/wordpress-engine/files/2010_March/bugs_bunny.jpg

1st base...Derek Jeter
2nd base.....Derek Jeter
3rd Base....Derek Jeter
shortstop....Derek Jeter
Pitching....Derek Jeter
Catching.....Derek Jeter
Coaching.....Derek Jeter

if they had jeter types of players at every position they would lose 100+ games! be happy they dont!

[cougarjake13]

lets say jeter does go somewhere else


does arod move back to short ??

[TheGameHHH]

lets say jeter does go somewhere else


does arod move back to short ??

it really depends what they do with the leftover money they've now "saved" by not signing Jeter.

[Justice4all]

if they had jeter types of players at every position they would lose 100+ games! be happy they dont!

Wow it's just amazing how you didn't get that joke.
Ask your cousin about it, I bet he can explain it to you.

[Snacks]

lets say jeter does go somewhere else


does arod move back to short ??

no its not fair to expect him to go back. they already made him move to 3rd when he was already the better ss. but jesus jeter needed to stay at ss. a real captain would do whats best for the team not their ego. but then again no one ever sees anything jeter does as wrong!

[Snacks]

Wow it's just amazing how you didn't get that joke.
Ask your cousin about it, I bet he can explain it to you.

tom you dont make jokes so how could i get what you say? your not funny so how or would i see anything you write as a joke?!

[Justice4all]

tom you dont make jokes so how could i get what you say? your not funny so how or would i see anything you write as a joke?!

You win...I give up :wallbash:

[Snacks]

You win...I give up :wallbash:

I am the champion my friend.. and I'll keep on fighting til the end..

[spoon]

Come on Snacks, Cano was a top notch 2 bagger this year, not over some crazy extended period of time. To put him on such a pedestal is quite comical.

[Snacks]

Come on Snacks, Cano was a top notch 2 bagger this year, not over some crazy extended period of time. To put him on such a pedestal is quite comical.

spoon the kid has had a nice career and is 28 he is just hitting his prime and doing it with a bang. im not saying he is the best im saying in his mind he might not want to move knowing he has 10-12 more years at the position and has already made a mark for himself. like soriano didnt want to move thinking down the line, cano has to be thinking the same way. he shouldnt move for jeter or anyone else.

the "captain" should get a glove and practice catching fly balls in left field. but then again he might not be better then what they already have there.

[Crippler]

no its not fair to expect him to go back. they already made him move to 3rd when he was already the better ss. but jesus jeter needed to stay at ss. a real captain would do whats best for the team not their ego. but then again no one ever sees anything jeter does as wrong!

Oh, enough of your Jeter bashing already. Rodriguez was put at third because not only was he the better SS, he was theoretically the better thirdbaseman as well. He was a bigger athlete, more power, better arm, etc. Your corner IFers are supposed to be your power so it made more sense to move the guy who was going to go .305/35/120 in an off year & keep the guy who will be .315/15/75 at short. Now take Alex's cock out of your mouth, cuz.

[spoon]

Let's be honest, they're both cunts.

[Crippler]

No argument there.

[Snacks]

Oh, enough of your Jeter bashing already. Rodriguez was put at third because not only was he the better SS, he was theoretically the better thirdbaseman as well. He was a bigger athlete, more power, better arm, etc. Your corner IFers are supposed to be your power so it made more sense to move the guy who was going to go .305/35/120 in an off year & keep the guy who will be .315/15/75 at short. Now take Alex's cock out of your mouth, cuz.

i knew it was only a matter of time before you came out to defend your lover. did you break out your #2 jersey while writting that?

[Crippler]

Not the jersey, but I was wearing the thong. Douche.

[spoon]

a deuce thong on crippler

awesome

[Snacks]

a deuce thong on crippler

awesome

hes had it for years. he only wears it when hes alone, oiled up and reading jeter monthly

[Justice4all]

I am the champion my friend.. and I'll keep on fighting til the end..

:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:

I get better results from doing that.

you are a legend in YOUR OWN MIND.
Everywhere else....you really don't wanna know.

[Justice4all]

I am the champion my friend.. and I'll keep on fighting til the end..

Sorry this one is better

http://www.mediabistro.com/prnewser/files/original/clubber%20shouting.jpg
"What you say paper champion?"

[WRESTLINGFAN]

This is getting more interesting.



http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-yankees-jeter

[Snacks]

This is getting more interesting.



http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-yankees-jeter

he may be a douche but he is 100% correct. they win because they play for a team that puts other all stars around them. they are overpaid because they play for the yankees. if they played for any other teams they would not have made as much money as they did being a yankee. the yankees dont need them as much as they need the yankees. mo has more of an argument because he has never had a down year and is the greatest as his position ever. but then again he has been paid for it and more then any closer in history. jeter should shut up and take what he is luckily being offered.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

he may be a douche but he is 100% correct. they win because they play for a team that puts other all stars around them. they are overpaid because they play for the yankees. if they played for any other teams they would not have made as much money as they did being a yankee. the yankees dont need them as much as they need the yankees. mo has more of an argument because he has never had a down year and is the greatest as his position ever. but then again he has been paid for it and more then any closer in history. jeter should shut up and take what he is luckily being offered.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap:

[Crippler]

Jeter wants 6 years, $150 Million (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/26060115)

Late last season, Major League Baseball and the players association reached an agreement to stop discussing contract negotiations through the media. And just weeks ago, the Yankees and Casey Close, the agent for free-agent shortstop Derek Jeter, agreed not to disclose their negotiating positions.

And yet here we are, not surprisingly, with everybody's laundry hanging out on the public clothesline. The Yankees, we learned earlier in the week, have offered Jeter three years at $45 million. And now, Bill Madden of the New York Daily News reports that it's thought Jeter's starting point is six years at $150 million -- and that he's unwilling to budge from the annual value of $25 million.

:lol: Good luck, bro! :lol:

[cougarjake13]

Jeter wants 6 years, $150 Million (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/26060115)



:lol: Good luck, bro! :lol:



even in his prime i dont think jeters worth 25 mil a year

[Justice4all]

Looks like they finally signed up Mo for two more years. Not a bad move (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/12/03/yankees.rivera/index.html?eref=sihp)

[cougarjake13]

Looks like they finally signed up Mo for two more years. Not a bad move (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/12/03/yankees.rivera/index.html?eref=sihp)

they had to

best in game and showed not many signs of not being same old mo





and yanks had to leak that sawx went after him

[spoon]

News coming in that Jeter has signed for 3 years 51 million. There is a possible option being a part of the contract at a 4th year for 8 million. Quite a salary decline but he will be an old bastard by then.

[Justice4all]

News coming in that Jeter has signed for 3 years 51 million. There is a possible option being a part of the contract at a 4th year for 8 million. Quite a salary decline but he will be an old bastard by then.

Here it is. Was there ever a doubt Jeter would not be a Yankee again? (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/12/04/yankees.jeter/index.html#)

[Snacks]

Several teams courted Jeter, but the Yankees captain never considered leaving the team that drafted him in 1992.

yeah name 1 that actually sat down and talked to him? No one courted him. The only other team ever brought up was SF who has a GM or someone high up who was also high up with the yankees when they drafted him. If anything it was a move of support by someone trying to help/give jeter leverage even though he had none!

[TheGameHHH]

yeah name 1 that actually sat down and talked to him? No one courted him. The only other team ever brought up was SF who has a GM or someone high up who was also high up with the yankees when they drafted him. If anything it was a move of support by someone trying to help/give jeter leverage even though he had none!

exactly, which is why i dont get the fact that people even decided to make this a big deal from the begining. we all knew a deal would get done with the yankees. in my mind there was more drama in 2000 with jeter than there was now.

[spoon]

Isn't that the case with most free agents they have any interest in? Why the drama!?

[cougarjake13]

Isn't that the case with most free agents they have any interest in? Why the drama!?

cause it looked bad for a moment

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Today might be decision day for Lee and I wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt sign with NY. They need pitching and Greinke is the only decent one out there tha they can trade for

[TheGameHHH]

Today might be decision day for Lee and I wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt sign with NY. They need pitching and Greinke is the only decent one out there tha they can trade for

he's more than decent, i think he's really good actually. but he's a fucking head case, I dont see him being able to handle pitching in NY. he'll be like a replica of Burnett.

[Snoogans]

he's more than decent, i think he's really good actually. but he's a fucking head case, I dont see him being able to handle pitching in NY. he'll be like a replica of Burnett.

it would be like michael Rappaport in the beginning of The Scout

[epo]

it would be like michael Rappaport in the beginning of The Scout

I've hear multiple sources say that the Yankees have already assessed Greinke as not able to handle NYC and they are wisely not pursuing him.

[zildjian361]

My instincts say Lee will sign with the Yanks. country boy get's to play on the world's biggest stage.

[Snoogans]

My instincts say Lee will sign with the Yanks. country boy get's to play on the world's biggest stage.

he has pitched in the WS twice

[zildjian361]

Not in Pinstripes my friend.

[Snacks]

I would want to play in NYC because Im from this area and love city life. But if I was from the south I would play where I felt most comfortable and most money. The most $$$ might be offered by the yanks but after taxes and quality of life might be better in Texas especially for someone from Ark!

[razorboy]

Not in Pinstripes my friend.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/cliff_lee_1--300x300.jpg

[Snoogans]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/cliff_lee_1--300x300.jpg

nice

[zildjian361]

Not quite THE Pinstripes I meant:laugh:

[cougarjake13]

Not quite THE Pinstripes I meant:laugh:

true but u didnt specify

[TheGameHHH]

My instincts say Lee will sign with the Yanks. country boy get's to play on the world's biggest stage.

everything im hearing is actually quite the opposite. my instincts say Lee stays with Texas and hinging on that news Pettitte retires. it may be a long season in the Bronx

[cougarjake13]

everything im hearing is actually quite the opposite. my instincts say Lee stays with Texas and hinging on that news Pettitte retires. it may be a long season in the Bronx

what about pettite going to texas any word on that ?

[TheGameHHH]

what about pettite going to texas any word on that ?

personally i think its the yankees or retire. whats the point of going to texas for one year?

and if the yankees haven't heard from Lee by now, i cant see him deciding to come to the bronx.

[spoon]

personally i think its the yankees or retire. whats the point of going to texas for one year?

and if the yankees haven't heard from Lee by now, i cant see him deciding to come to the bronx.

It's being reported on ESPN now that it the yanks have been ruled out and notified as such. There is a major reason not usually brought up that may keep him in Texas, much closer to his current home and easier if it's true. I've heard someone bring up he has a sick kid (doing better of late) and he's not likely to be up for a tough relocate once more, especially so far away. He's been rumored to be interested in staying close to parents/in-laws to help him and his wife as his child recovers/gets treatment.

To me it's already a joke he's been with 4 teams in 2 years and a 5th very possible soon. However, most now believe he stays in Texas. We'll see soon enough.

[spoon]

Not quite THE Pinstripes I meant:laugh:

Oh you mean the gay ones that mean you're on a team of hired guns with no fucking souls or respect for their titles and awards like Jeter's gold gloves!? Gotchya!

[Snoogans]

Not quite THE Pinstripes I meant:laugh:

well it shoulda been (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5917145)


whoa

[A.J.]

Not in Pinstripes my friend.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/cliff_lee_1--300x300.jpg

Wow, that's pretty good.

Now give me some numbers to play in the lottery.

[TheGameHHH]

Oh no, don't worry. It's cool. The Yankees signed Russell Martin so they're all set to go.

[HBox]

Oh no, don't worry. It's cool. The Yankees signed Russell Martin so they're all set to go.

If they've convinced themselves that this enables them to trade Montero I'm gonna strangle Cashman.

[brettmojo]

Last week, Cashman refused to rule out a run at Carl Pavano (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3784), after Lee the second-best starting pitcher in an admittedly weak free-agent crop. "I hate to speak in absolutes," he said. "But it's not something we've looked at."

:lol:





























:wallbash:

[zildjian361]

Can't blame Lee for signing with Philly, he did it for his kid who beat Lukemia in a Philly Hospital one of the best. I admire him for that.

[TheGameHHH]

If they've convinced themselves that this enables them to trade Montero I'm gonna strangle Cashman.

that's exactly the route i think they'll go.....trade montero for somebody similar to burnett and then they'll have problems at pitcher and catcher.

[Snoogans]

that's exactly the route i think they'll go.....trade montero for somebody similar to burnett and then they'll have problems at pitcher and catcher.

not anymore, you have the great russel martin.


this is pretty fuckin funny. Ive never seen the yankees not get any of the big guys


maybe if you gm was dancing around dressed like a fairy

[HBox]

I wouldn't be concerned about Martin if he wasn't an injury riddled catcher. He seems to perform very well when healthy.

[Snoogans]

I wouldn't be concerned about Martin if he wasn't an injury riddled catcher. He seems to perform very well when healthy.

i hope he hits 350 in april, you trade montero, and then russel breaks his arm

[razorboy]

No worries. You signed Mark Prior (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40666128/ns/sports-player_news/) to a minor league deal. That'll show 'em.

[spoon]

If they've convinced themselves that this enables them to trade Montero I'm gonna strangle Cashman.

oh this one I would love

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Soriano to the Yankees? They need a setup man


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5996036

[spoon]

Soriano to the Yankees? They need a setup man


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5996036

That's not only pathetic, it's expected at this point. Fuck MLB :wallbash:

[cougarjake13]

Soriano to the Yankees? They need a setup man


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5996036

That's not only pathetic, it's expected at this point. Fuck MLB :wallbash:




also no one else seems to be interested or have the money if they are

[TheGameHHH]

when i first saw that without reading the whole headline I thought they meant Alfonso

[spoon]

also no one else seems to be interested or have the money if they are

I would have to think ANYONE would want him, namely TB. $$$ is the factor once again. That's the dif bt teams now, not much more.

[cougarjake13]

I would have to think ANYONE would want him, namely TB. $$$ is the factor once again. That's the dif bt teams now, not much more.

the rays absolutely would want him

but if theyre not gonna sign crawford or pena as well as trade bartlett and garza then theyre are most certainly not gonna spend the money boras and soriano want

[TheGameHHH]

Yanks came to terms with Soriano tonight.

Also, just booked my flight to Tampa for Spring Training. Can't fucking wait for baseball (even though the Yanks have no pitching and will prob lose the East by 5 games)

[Snacks]

Yanks came to terms with Soriano tonight.

Also, just booked my flight to Tampa for Spring Training. Can't fucking wait for baseball (even though the Yanks have no pitching and will prob lose the East by 5 games)

yeah because they dont now have the best bullpen in baseball along with an all star everyday lineup and 2 stud starters?! They are paying their set up man $12 million a year. The yanks set up man will make 1/4 of what pitts, kc, floridas entire rosters payroll!

[spe5150]

yeah because they dont now have the best bullpen in baseball along with an all star everyday lineup and 2 stud starters?! They are paying their set up man $12 million a year. The yanks set up man will make 1/4 of what pitts, kc, floridas entire blah, blah, bitchity, bitchity, blah...

Please, if you're going to immediately launch into the "Yankees & their money" rhetoric, would you have the decency to pick a team of your own so you can be counter-bashed?!

Did they overpay for a set-up man...yes. He's now the heir apparent to Mo & I guess they had to overpay considering he could have gone just about anywhere else in the league & closed. Oh well, deal with it. Fuck the Yankee haters. Only 31 days till pitchers & catcher! :clap:

[Snacks]

Please, if you're going to immediately launch into the "Yankees & their money" rhetoric, would you have the decency to pick a team of your own so you can be counter-bashed?!

Did they overpay for a set-up man...yes. He's now the heir apparent to Mo & I guess they had to overpay considering he could have gone just about anywhere else in the league & closed. Oh well, deal with it. Fuck the Yankee haters. Only 31 days till pitchers & catcher! :clap:

he might be the heir apparent to Mo but Mo is still going to pitch for 2 more years. So he will only be under contract for 1 year as a closer and thats if Mo doesnt sign again for another year. And my point was that I dont ever want to hear yankee fans cry and say woe is me because they need more pitching. Please this team has an all star team and if they cant make the playoffs with this line up and roster they should be embarrassed.

Does anyone really think the yanks wont have a chance because of their pitching this year? With that line up I could pitch and they would still win games!

[spoon]

Yanks came to terms with Soriano tonight.

Also, just booked my flight to Tampa for Spring Training. Can't fucking wait for baseball (even though the Yanks have no pitching and will prob lose the East by 5 games)

purely pathetic

[Barnaby Jones]

With the way things are going the Rays could have 11 picks out of the first 90 in the draft!!!

[Snoogans]

yeah because they dont now have the best bullpen in baseball along with an all star everyday lineup and 2 stud starters?! They are paying their set up man $12 million a year. The yanks set up man will make 1/4 of what pitts, kc, floridas entire rosters payroll!

the sox have like 6 set up men now though. They went and got Jenks and Wheeler, they still have Bard, and unfortunately Paps.

[Snacks]

ESPN just said that the yankee bullpen has a higher payroll then the entire TB Rays team!

thats hilarious and sad at the same time!

[cougarjake13]

ESPN just said that the yankee bullpen has a higher payroll then the entire TB Rays team!

thats hilarious and sad at the same time!

yeh and soriano kept saying he wanted to be a closer but at least for the next 2 years he wont be unless he opts out

[Justice4all]

Pettitte opts to retire instead of pitch one or two more seasons. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/baseball/mlb/02/03/andy.pettitte/index.html?eref=sihp)

Well we all knew this day was coming. See ya Andy. Thanks for all those great years.

[TheGameHHH]

And then there were 3

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Their offense is going to have to put up lots of runs this year in order to make the postseason, but in the end its all about pitching. Sad when the best option out there is Millwood, but the pitching supply is dry


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/595876-rumors-yankees-still-in-contact-with-kevin-millwood

[cougarjake13]

even with all the guys they lost, the rays still have a good starting staff, bullpen is suspect though but they might have enough to contend for wildcard and possibly finish 2nd ahead of spanks and behind the sawx

[spoon]

even with all the guys they lost, the rays still have a good starting staff, bullpen is suspect though but they might have enough to contend for wildcard and possibly finish 2nd ahead of spanks and behind the sawx

Rays are 3rd tops this year. I don't even see that being very possible, but they do have good starters and manager at least. That bullpen is seemingly awful, they have no pop at this point and have too many new pieces in my mind. Damon and Manny aren't world beaters or even close at this point, but it could be worse I guess.

[cougarjake13]

Rays are 3rd tops this year. I don't even see that being very possible, but they do have good starters and manager at least. That bullpen is seemingly awful, they have no pop at this point and have too many new pieces in my mind. Damon and Manny aren't world beaters or even close at this point, but it could be worse I guess.

like i said could contend for 2nd and possible wildcard


manny and damon arent what they were but theyre better than what they would have had protecting longoria

and their contention would have more to do with the yankees not excelling as theyre expected versus the rays actual play

[spoon]

like i said could contend for 2nd and possible wildcard


manny and damon arent what they were but theyre better than what they would have had protecting longoria

and their contention would have more to do with the yankees not excelling as theyre expected versus the rays actual play

I said 3rd tops, not like you said 2nd. Also, the Rays got way worse while the O's were already better with the manager change, now add to that a ton of acquisitions. That infield is a whole lot better with Hardy, Reynolds and Lee. They also picked up some bullpen pitching, but the starters are still severely lacking. Still, don't sleep on them being a bigger player, especially in that 3 hole range.

Also, the Jays may not have gotten better, but I'd argue they are closer simply by the yanks getting older, the Rays getting killed in the off-season and getting a much needed manager change and with it less swing for the fences mentality.

[sailor]

I said 3rd tops, not like you said 2nd. Also, the Rays got way worse while the O's were already better with the manager change, now add to that a ton of acquisitions. That infield is a whole lot better with Hardy, Reynolds and Lee. They also picked up some bullpen pitching, but the starters are still severely lacking. Still, don't sleep on them being a bigger player, especially in that 3 hole range.

Also, the Jays may not have gotten better, but I'd argue they are closer simply by the yanks getting older, the Rays getting killed in the off-season and getting a much needed manager change and with it less swing for the fences mentality.

he wasn't saying you agreed with him, just repeating his viewpoint.

[spoon]

he wasn't saying you agreed with him, just repeating his viewpoint.

I'm not so sure and was only clarifying just in case. It really doesn't matter but I'm sure CJ knows what he meant. Sometimes tone and intent are lost in text.

[sailor]

I'm not so sure and was only clarifying just in case. It really doesn't matter but I'm sure CJ knows what he meant. Sometimes tone and intent are lost in text.

absolutely.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Add Eric Chavez to the discount buying


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2011%2F02%2F04%2FSPRS1HJ8 BV.DTL

[spoon]

Add Eric Chavez to the discount buying


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2011%2F02%2F04%2FSPRS1HJ8 BV.DTL

Awful choice if you ask me. This seemingly means he really doesn't want to play or very little bc both corners are locked down tight and DH isn't exactly open as well. I'm sure they can spot start him here and there, but outside of title shots, I'm not sure what Chavez was thinking bc there are plenty of teams that would have taken this same shot with starting him in mind if healthy enough. Even if healthy in NY, he's NOT starting anywhere with that infield. Beyond an injury happening, this doesn't seem like a good move at all...for Chavez.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

If we only had room for him.





http://newyork.sbnation.com/new-york-yankees/2011/2/8/1982397/michael-young-trade-rumors-yankees-texas-rangers

[spoon]

If we only had room for him.





http://newyork.sbnation.com/new-york-yankees/2011/2/8/1982397/michael-young-trade-rumors-yankees-texas-rangers

Jays REALLY need a third baseman, but I don't think they're ready to pay anywhere close to that amount.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

A leaner C C


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6102747

[A.J.]

A leaner C C


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6102747

http://blog.mywonderfulworld.org/assets/AIDS%20Ribbon.png

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Rumors going around that the Yanks are interested in Felix Hernandez. I'm sure one of the prospects that The M's would want is Montero

[TheGameHHH]

Rumors going around that the Yanks are interested in Felix Hernandez. I'm sure one of the prospects that The M's would want is Montero

I'm fairly certain every team in the league is "interested" in King Felix, it just depends on what they're willing to give up for him. Whether or not Felix gets moved to the Yanks will prob depend on how far the M's and Yankees are out closer to the trade deadline.

[brettmojo]

A leaner C C


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6102747
Good. He's gonna' be carrying enough weight in this rotation as it is.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

CC to opt out?


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6120676

[cougarjake13]

CC to opt out?


http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=6120676




that would be hilarious

[TheGameHHH]

that would be hilarious

I kinda think right now there's a 20% chance he does it. It really depends on how the season goes. I'm also curious where he thinks he's getting more money

[spoon]

Rumors going around that the Yanks are interested in Felix Hernandez. I'm sure one of the prospects that The M's would want is Montero

Rumors going around that the Yanks are interested in buying any good player that is out there and possibly available. For fuck's sake WF.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Rumors going around that the Yanks & Red Sox are interested in buying any good player that is out there and possibly available. For fuck's sake WF.

Fixed

[spoon]

Fixed

no

[brettmojo]

Hank. Mouth. (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/02/22/sweeny-says-taking-the-high-road/) Insert foot. (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/02/22/sweeny-says-taking-the-high-road/)

I hope he never stops. It's great.

[Snoogans]

hank really is the best

[spoon]

It really shows you have fucking off the born rich usually are or become. Celebrated too much and building mansions?! WTF is that shit? I hate the yanks and how they win, but this is fucking stupid and pathetic. The team is World Champs after that year, rightfully celebrate it and players are always in working on their home life. Saying they weren't as hungry, fine, but his reasons are fucking idiotic and clearly they all should have been taking bp 20 minutes after being handed the trophy.

[A.J.]

He should have called out ARod for being fed crappy food by a Hollywood starlet.

http://www.sportsgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/arod-diaz.gif

[A.J.]

Derek Jeter Rejects Move To Outfield By Reminding Yankees That He's Derek Fucking Jeter (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/derek-jeter-rejects-move-to-outfield-by-reminding,19407/)

[Gutter]

Derek Jeter Rejects Move To Outfield By Reminding Yankees That He's Derek Fucking Jeter (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/derek-jeter-rejects-move-to-outfield-by-reminding,19407/)

thats hilarious.

[spoon]

Derek Jeter Rejects Move To Outfield By Reminding Yankees That He's Derek Fucking Jeter (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/derek-jeter-rejects-move-to-outfield-by-reminding,19407/)

Funny shit, but there is also a lot of truth to it. 1) How the fuck did he win the gg?? 2) Why is it hank and cashman seemingly hate this guy who has certainly been an all-time great? Say what you will about playing for another team and what he would have been then. The bottom line is he didn't and played to every crazy contract he got in this age of MLB. The dignity argument is huge here and real. I love how Onion articles are completely made up, but laced with facts and ulterior meanings.

[TheGameHHH]

Cervelli out for at least 4 weeks with a fracture in his foot. Door is wide open for Montero and Romine

[zildjian361]

Cervelli out for at least 4 weeks with a fracture in his foot. Door is wide open for Montero and Romine

I wanna see this kid Montero

[TheGameHHH]

This was hands down my favorite part of that article.

"I bet nobody ever told Yogi Berra that he should stop catching, or told Joe DiMaggio that he should test the market to see if he could get a better offer," Jeter said. "And if they did, they were fucking pricks back then, too. You don't tell Yogi fucking Berra he can't catch, and you sure as shit don't say in the media that Derek Jeter isn't as fast or as good as he used to be, even if it's fucking true."

[spoon]

This was hands down my favorite part of that article.

"I bet nobody ever told Yogi Berra that he should stop catching, or told Joe DiMaggio that he should test the market to see if he could get a better offer," Jeter said. "And if they did, they were fucking pricks back then, too. You don't tell Yogi fucking Berra he can't catch, and you sure as shit don't say in the media that Derek Jeter isn't as fast or as good as he used to be, even if it's fucking true."

agreed

and I hate Jeter for being a good yankee

[jonyrotn]

agreed

and I hate Jeter for being a good yankee
Qft.. As hard as I've tried I can't hate Jetter..I couldn't hate Mattingly either and I don't know why, I hate the shit out of every other Yankee..

[A.J.]

Funny shit, but there is also a lot of truth to it. 1) How the fuck did he win the gg?? 2) Why is it hank and cashman seemingly hate this guy who has certainly been an all-time great? Say what you will about playing for another team and what he would have been then. The bottom line is he didn't and played to every crazy contract he got in this age of MLB. The dignity argument is huge here and real. I love how Onion articles are completely made up, but laced with facts and ulterior meanings.

Qft.. As hard as I've tried I can't hate Jetter..I couldn't hate Mattingly either and I don't know why, I hate the shit out of every other Yankee..

Agreed on both counts. Consider after all of these years, he's still playing at a pretty high level and is about to become the first and only Yankee to get 3,000 hits.

And you have to admire a guy whose commitment to excellence on the field is equaled only to his commitment to banging the hottest pussy that the rest of us can only jerk off to.

[A.J.]

I wonder how this image will play in Philly.

http://mit.zenfs.com/121/2011/03/BidenRivera.jpg

[spoon]

I wonder how this image will play in Philly.

http://mit.zenfs.com/121/2011/03/BidenRivera.jpg

Scranton my ass.

[TheGameHHH]

I just got back from spring training last night after spending the weekend down there and the biggest thing I noticed down there is A-Rod looks fucking locked in. I know people will laugh on opening day when he goes 0-4 but he really looks on point. I'd expect a big year from him.

[spoon]

new batch of flax seed oil?

[TheGameHHH]

new batch of flax seed oil?

doubtful, the only thing I noticed was his hat size grew an entire inch

[Tenbatsuzen]

new batch of flax seed oil?

It's funny you said that, have you seen what Cameron Diaz looks like lately? Jesus.

http://www.tvsmacktalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/cameron_diaz_muscle.jpg

[Snoogans]

http://www.tvsmacktalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/cameron_diaz_muscle.jpg

Kid Rock really let himself go

[hanso]

Javier Vazquez has a good season with new team. Yankee fans get ticked off?

[Snacks]

Javier Vazquez has a good season with new team. Yankee fans get ticked off?

Thats why hes on my fantasy team. He usually does great in the NL and hes in Florida which is a huge ballpark!

[TheGameHHH]

Javier Vazquez has a good season with new team. Yankee fans get ticked off?

I havent cared about that man's life in like 7 years, im not about to start now

[TheGameHHH]

Where's everybody at?!?! Lets go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[disneyspy]

mother fuck! game has been blocked out in my area!

LETS GO TIGERS!

[disneyspy]

THANK GOD FOR ILLEGAL SITES

get em verlander

[disneyspy]

roooooaaaaaar

[TheGameHHH]

you weren't what i had in mind when i asked where everybody was at

[disneyspy]

how awesome would it be to see verlander pitch a no hitter on opening day?

answer: pretty fucking

[TheGameHHH]

how awesome would it be to see verlander pitch a no hitter on opening day?

answer: pretty fucking

how awesome would it be to see you post that then have martin rip a single?

answer: pretty fucking

[TheGameHHH]

it's a tex message!!!!!!!!

[disneyspy]

nice catch at first!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yankees win!

Jobs wins! HE'S A STAWTING PITCHA

[zildjian361]

Yanks win atop of the AL East:wink:

[WRESTLINGFAN]

it's a tex message!!!!!!!!

Maybe he will break his stretch of horrible April's.

C C pitched ok, not his best stuff but 2 runs over 6 isnt that bad. He usually gets off to a slow start as well

[spoon]

it's a tex message!!!!!!!!

fag

[cougarjake13]

it's a tex message!!!!!!!!

is that what sterling says ??


fucking god awful

[TheGameHHH]

is that what sterling says ??


fucking god awful

yep, along with 'ohhhh youre on the mark, teixeira'

[disneyspy]

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If you can keep Cabrera sober the rest of the year you might have a shot at the division.

[TheGameHHH]

really liking the shape of this bullpen so far. if you can make it a 6 inning game with this offense, things should be good

[Snacks]

really liking the shape of this bullpen so far. if you can make it a 6 inning game with this offense, things should be good

Yeah but the starting pitching looks like shit. You cant have your starters only go 5 or 6 innings every game while giving up a min of 3 runs. It jitters who usually start off seasons slowly. If thats true as the season goes along the hitters will be getting to this pitchers earlier and more often!

[TheGameHHH]

Yeah but the starting pitching looks like shit. You cant have your starters only go 5 or 6 innings every game while giving up a min of 3 runs. It jitters who usually start off seasons slowly. If thats true as the season goes along the hitters will be getting to this pitchers earlier and more often!

I don't think the pitching looks like shit. Sabathia will be fine, Burnett is still a question mark but his mechanics seem MUCH better since the start of spring training and ill take 6 innings and 3 runs from Nova every time. I'm also not freaking out about Hughes lacking velocity after one April start. Is there room for improvement? Sure, there always is unless you're going to go out and throw a perfect game every start. But so far the starters as a whole seem decent, not to mention we haven't even seen Garcia pitch yet.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yeah but the starting pitching looks like shit. You cant have your starters only go 5 or 6 innings every game while giving up a min of 3 runs. It jitters who usually start off seasons slowly. If thats true as the season goes along the hitters will be getting to this pitchers earlier and more often!

Are you a goddamn dolt? The text book definition of a quality start is 6 innings, 3 ER.

[TheGameHHH]

Are you a goddamn dolt? The text book definition of a quality start is 6 innings, 3 ER.

for all intents and purposes, that is a pretty shitty definition. but like i said before i'll take that from Nova every time

[Snacks]

Are you a goddamn dolt? The text book definition of a quality start is 6 innings, 3 ER.

If you read my whole statement it said that wont continue because batters get better as the season goes along. I also said 5 /6 innings so even at 5 innings its not a quality start. So as of now some of those so called quality starts will be more like 5 innings and 5, 6 runs with the way these guys look. Also a 4.50 era+ from your starters. CC will be fine the rest is going to be a weekly scare!

Did you ever play baseball? Because you really dont seem to understand the game!

[Tenbatsuzen]

If you read my whole statement it said that wont continue because batters get better as the season goes along.

And pitchers DON'T? CC always started slow, so I was encouraged by the way he started.

I also said 5 /6 innings so even at 5 innings its not a quality start. So as of now some of those so called quality starts will be more like 5 innings and 5, 6 runs with the way these guys look. Also a 4.50 era+ from your starters. CC will be fine the rest is going to be a weekly scare!


Your analysis is after ONE TURN IN THE ROTATION. So it's fucking useless. You absolutely cannot determine trends when the park has been cold and windy.


Did you ever play baseball? Because you really dont seem to understand the game!

Do people pay you to make stupid statements? If they do, you're in line for a raise.