All Things Apple, Mac and OSX

[Space Edge]

caught a little bit of the keynote

OSX Lion (coming in the summer)
Facetime for OSX beta available for download http://goo.gl/Phe6
App's and App Store for the Mac coming out in 90 days.
New Macbook Air with SS drives.

And new CDMA Verizon iPhone/iPad.... oh wait.

[Space Edge]

Don't get why they wouldn't put Facetime in iChat. Maybe they will eventually do that after it leaves beta.

[KnoxHarrington]

I'll probably be picking up iLife '11 as soon as we can. The new features in iPhoto, iMovie, and Garageband look bad ass. I wonder if anything's been done to iDVD and iWeb, though both of those applications seem pretty dated, somehow.

I was hoping for iWork '11, but that's fine. I might finally just break down and buy Office 2011, because I hear that's really awesome.

I watched the keynote, and the dude demonstrating the new Lion features, particularly Mission Control, seemed to be fumbling with it. He did seem nervous as hell, but I do hope that they avoid introducing too many finger-twisting mutlifinger gestures to make that work. Still, though, being able to swipe between full-screen apps looks bad ass. The "back to the Mac" does seem appropriate, because it does look like they're bringing over some cool stuff from the iOS devices.

The Macbook Air looks really interesting. I think that by getting the price down to $999 for the base model, they helped deal with one of the things that hurt the original MBA, the fact it was expensive as hell, more expensive than the Macbook and even most models of the Macbook Pro. Still, though, I'm not sure what the market for this is. It still seems underpowered for the cost. It's still a nice boost to the MBA line.

I like the concept of the Mac App Store, as long as it doesn't tie the Mac into it like the iOS devices are tied to their App Store. Steve Jobs has said point blank that Apple won't do that for the Mac, so I think it'll end up being more like the Android Marketplace -- an official, sanctioned place to buy apps, but not the only place. You cant lock a computer into a rigid ecosystem like a phone.

All in all, some really cool stuff today.

[Space Edge]

I saw on a few of the "Apple Blogs" that they aren't doing anything with iWeb and iDVD so they are basically dead but will still come with iLife. I will probably upgrade also when it's available.

[Space Edge]

I'm installing my copy of iLife 11 now

[Suspect Chin]

When is AirPlay supposed to be released?

I'm trying to setup wireless music for a party at my house and this seems like the perfect solution. I'd be able to control the music throughout the house from my iMac using the Remote app on my iPhone.

It seems like buying an Apple AirPort is the only solution for now? Will this purchase be totally obsolete once AirPlay arrives?

[KnoxHarrington]

When is AirPlay supposed to be released?

I'm trying to setup wireless music for a party at my house and this seems like the perfect solution. I'd be able to control the music throughout the house from my iMac using the Remote app on my iPhone.

It seems like buying an Apple AirPort is the only solution for now? Will this purchase be totally obsolete once AirPlay arrives?

For now, yeah, but AirPlay devices are coming. But an Airport would be a good purchase anyway. With the Airport Extreme, you can plug speakers into the audio out jack, a printer on the USB port, and you can set it to rebroadcast your current router's signal to strengthen the network throughout your house. It's not a bad little device.

[Space Edge]

Can anyone recommend a program so I can take music off my iPhone and transfer it to my computer?

[Dudeman]

I need some help. For maybe a year or so, I've had two folders in my trash that I can't throw out- it says they are in use. I think there are a few pdf files in each folder. Obviously I try emptying the trash with all applications off, so they aren't really in use. Anyone have ideas how to get rid of this problem? thanks

[KnoxHarrington]

I need some help. For maybe a year or so, I've had two folders in my trash that I can't throw out- it says they are in use. I think there are a few pdf files in each folder. Obviously I try emptying the trash with all applications off, so they aren't really in use. Anyone have ideas how to get rid of this problem? thanks

Hold down the Option key as you click on "Empty Trash" from the Finder menu.

If that doesn't work, do this: in Terminal, type the command lsof, then drag the file(s) you can't delete into the Terminal window. That will tell you what processes Mac OS X thinks are using that file. Quit those processes in Activity Monitor, then empty the trash.

But the first step should do it. That's forcing the Trash to empty.

[KnoxHarrington]

Oh, rumor has it that 10.6.5 is coming out tomorrow, along with iTunes 10.1. Both downloads are in preparation for iOS 4.2, which is supposed to be coming out later this week.

The other rumor I'm hearing is that along with the Mac App Store, coming out later this year, Apple will be releasing iWork '11. The three apps will be available there, for $19.95 a pop (though you'll also still be able to get the DVD). This is cool, because the only one of those apps I use regularly is Pages, and it'll be sweet to just get that one program.

[Dudeman]

Hold down the Option key as you click on "Empty Trash" from the Finder menu.

If that doesn't work, do this: in Terminal, type the command lsof, then drag the file(s) you can't delete into the Terminal window. That will tell you what processes Mac OS X thinks are using that file. Quit those processes in Activity Monitor, then empty the trash.

But the first step should do it. That's forcing the Trash to empty.

Thanks for the help. Unfortunately the first step didn't work (still says they're in use.) Tried step 2, but not getting any info of use (just that there is no such file or directory.)

[Crash]

I'm installing my copy of iLife 11 now

Well, whaddya think?

I'm probably going to upgrade myself. Just curious what the initial impressions are.

[KnoxHarrington]

Well, whaddya think?

I'm probably going to upgrade myself. Just curious what the initial impressions are.

If you do install iLife '11, run Software Update and get it up to date before attempting to use it. There was a fairly nasty bug in iPhoto that caused people to lose some data.

I don't think they physically lost photos, but they did have to rebuild the library, redo albums, etc. Just try to avoid it anyway.

[Space Edge]

Well, whaddya think?

I'm probably going to upgrade myself. Just curious what the initial impressions are.

If you do install iLife '11, run Software Update and get it up to date before attempting to use it. There was a fairly nasty bug in iPhoto that caused people to lose some data.

I don't think they physically lost photos, but they did have to rebuild the library, redo albums, etc. Just try to avoid it anyway.

So far I've only used iPhoto and I love it it's worth the upgrade. I didn't do any backing up before I upgraded and I didn't have a problem but like knox said a few people reported some problems. I would backup your photos and movies in iMovie just in case.


I also upgraded to Office 2011 the other day but haven't had a chance to mess with it yet.

BTW I used Senuti to recover the songs on my iPhone. Great easy to use program if you ever need to.

[KnoxHarrington]

The 10.6.5 update is live and available for download.

Details of what's in it here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4250

[KnoxHarrington]

Cool new feature added in 10.6.5: OS X now supports the exFAT partition table. Before 10.6.5, the only formatting type that you could read and write to in both Windows and OS X was plain old FAT32, which could not support files more than 4GB in size. That's gone now. Keep in mind that exFAT is only natively supported in Windows in Vista with SP1, or Windows 7. In XP, you have to download and install a utility from Microsoft. And I don't think that a drive formatted in exFAT will be readable by a Mac running 10.6.4 or older.

More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

[Space Edge]

iOS 4.2 is out for download and now Mobile Me's Find My iOS device is now free.

[KnoxHarrington]

iOS 4.2 is out for download and now Mobile Me's Find My iOS device is now free.

Not quite yet. It's going out today.

Honestly, with the competition out there, Apple really should make MobileMe free, or at least cut the price. You can do everything it does with various free services, from Dropbox (which I use far more than my iDisk) and Google Sync. I went ahead and paid for MobileMe, though, because, at least for me, it just works better and easier than the rest of that stuff.

[Space Edge]

Not quite yet. It's going out today.

Honestly, with the competition out there, Apple really should make MobileMe free, or at least cut the price. You can do everything it does with various free services, from Dropbox (which I use far more than my iDisk) and Google Sync. I went ahead and paid for MobileMe, though, because, at least for me, it just works better and easier than the rest of that stuff.

yeah I jumped the gun, a few people on my twitter feed said it was released and when I checked nothing. I have been a mobile me subscriber since the first iPhone came out. Like you said you can do everything with various other free services but I like how mobile me just does things much easier then those services.

Heads up when your mobile me subscription is up for renewal dont let it automatically renew buy a subscription through Amazon for half the price.

A less-expensive MobileMe subscription
(http://www.macworld.com/article/155718/2010/11/cheaper_mobileme.html?lsrc=twt_macworld)

[Space Edge]

Just saw on Macworlds twitter feed that the free find my iPhone aka find my iOS device is only for current generation devices if you have a older device you still need a mobile me subscription.

Clarification on Find My iPhone: It is now free to owners of latest-gen hardware. If you have, say, a 3G or 3GS, you need a MobileMe sub.

http://twitter.com/#!/macworld/status/6725876758618112

[JustJon]

Now if only the Find my Device could work when it's offline. Be nice to be able to find an iPod or iPad when it isn't connected to the internet. :)

[KnoxHarrington]

I just started downloading the 4.2 update. I'll let you know how it goes.

I guess it's time to jump in.

[Space Edge]

Looks like they are also giving away the Gallery part of mobile me. Not sure how much storage the free version is. http://goo.gl/Ifi7x

[KnoxHarrington]

By the way, Airprint at this moment works on a grand total of 5 models of HP printers. That's pretty much it. I do have an HP wireless printer (an OfficeJet) and it can't find it.

So yeah, it's there, but it looks like don't expect too much from it just yet.

[Space Edge]

By the way, Airprint at this moment works on a grand total of 5 models of HP printers. That's pretty much it. I do have an HP wireless printer (an OfficeJet) and it can't find it.

So yeah, it's there, but it looks like don't expect too much from it just yet.

I think during the betas someone built a hack so it works with any network printer. I have the hack installed. No clue if it works since I wont' update until a untethered jailbreak is released.

[Space Edge]

http://netputing.com/airprinthacktivator/

[KnoxHarrington]

http://netputing.com/airprinthacktivator/

That worked great. Downloaded it, ran it, then removed and re-added my printer in the Print & Fax preference pane. Just remember to check "Share this printer" when you add it back.

Thanks budday!

[furie]

just got ilife11. i don't see any real difference.

[Space Edge]

Enable iOS AirPrint Support for Windows
(http://lifehacker.com/5697186/enable-ios-airprint-support-for-windows)

[Space Edge]

Must download right here

VMWare Fusion 3 for only $2 (usually costs around $80) Lets you run Windows as a virtual machine with your mac.
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/42225/?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

Edited to add

Use the code on slickdeals then you apply for another rebate to get it for only $2
It's still a really good deal

[Space Edge]

Video is coming to the iphone skype app!

http://www.9to5mac.com/44333/skype-video-chat-coming-to-iphone?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+9To5Mac-MacAllDay+(9+to+5+Mac+-+Apple+Intelligence)

[KnoxHarrington]

Sorry, it appears I was a little late on this...there's a great anti-theft app called Hidden (http://hiddenapp.com/) that they were giving away free for a while, but they've suspended the free offer due to very high demand. But it's still $10 instead of the usual $20.

The way it works is this: you download it and install it to your Mac. Then you register the computer on their site. So if your computer is stolen, you log back into the site, from any computer, and report it stolen. At that point, it'll connect to your computer and start snapping pics of the scumbag using your computer, and start collecting IP and other information that can be used to help locate it.

Of course, if the thief is smart enough to not put the computer online, or wipe the drive clean, it's not going to do much, but for the price, it's definitely worth a shot. It obviously requires a Mac with a built in cam, which would mean a Macbook or iMac.

[Crash]

just got ilife11. i don't see any real difference.

This.

WTF...

I got '11 for Christmas. Loaded it up...and don't notice any difference in iPhoto or iMovie.

Anyone spent some time with '11 yet? Will I notice the differences once I start working in the programs again or did my wife just dump money on an upgrade for no reason?

[Space Edge]

This.

WTF...

I got '11 for Christmas. Loaded it up...and don't notice any difference in iPhoto or iMovie.

Anyone spent some time with '11 yet? Will I notice the differences once I start working in the programs again or did my wife just dump money on an upgrade for no reason?

here is a article that talks about some of the changes to iLife, I don't think it lists all the changes I'm sure if you look on Apple's website there is a changelog

http://www.macworld.com/article/155030/2010/10/ilife_11.html

[Crash]

here is a article that talks about some of the changes to iLife, I don't think it lists all the changes I'm sure if you look on Apple's website there is a changelog

http://www.macworld.com/article/155030/2010/10/ilife_11.html

Thank you sir. Read it. Wasn't very impressed (by '11, not the article). Probably should have read this before I told my wife I wanted '11 for Christmas. :sad:

[KnoxHarrington]

Thank you sir. Read it. Wasn't very impressed (by '11, not the article). Probably should have read this before I told my wife I wanted '11 for Christmas. :sad:

It's not that much of an update. I do like that you can email pics directly out of iPhoto, and I like some of the new slideshow templates. But I'm not sure I'd tell you to run out immediately and buy it.

Be sure to run Software Update and get it up to date. There was a problem with the original release in iPhoto that could lead to your iPhoto library fucking up. It doesn't damage the pictures themselves or erase them, but it does make them inaccessible in iPhoto.

[Space Edge]

Skype with video now available on the iPhone !!!!!!

http://goo.gl/NRyWk

http://goo.gl/q2o1T

Works on multiple iOS devices over WIFI & 3G

[hanso]

"Apple and several other app developers are the target of a class action lawsuit filed late last week in the Northern District of California. The lawsuit alleges that some apps are collecting so much analytic information that users can be personally identified, while Apple remains complacent in allowing apps to collect the information despite a privacy policy that ostensibly forbids it.

The lawsuit was filed on behalf of Jonathan Lalo of Los Angeles, and singles out Apple, Pandora, The Weather Channel, Dictionary.com, and Backflip, makers of Paper Toss. These apps, among others, collect and transmit varying types of demographic data back to Apple and the app makers, and some developers also share the demographic information with various mobile ad networks. Most of this data is also attached to a particular iPhone or iPad's UDID - the unique device identification number."
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/12/apple-facing-class-action-suit-over-ios-data-collection.ars

[Space Edge]

OSX 10.6.6 is out along with the Mac App Store

[KnoxHarrington]

OSX 10.6.6 is out along with the Mac App Store

Looking through it now, one thing that really jumps out at me is that there are some good deals on Apple software here. For example, Aperture 3 is $79.99 here. If you buy the full version disk, it's $199.99. Hell, even an upgrade from a previous version is $99.

So for a new user of Aperture, that's less than half price.

And, of course, as we expected, the iLife and iWork suites have been split into parts at $19.95 a piece, which is good if you only one one or two particular parts of those programs.

[Space Edge]

Looking through it now, one thing that really jumps out at me is that there are some good deals on Apple software here. For example, Aperture 3 is $79.99 here. If you buy the full version disk, it's $199.99. Hell, even an upgrade from a previous version is $99.

So for a new user of Aperture, that's less than half price.

And, of course, as we expected, the iLife and iWork suites have been split into parts at $19.95 a piece, which is good if you only one one or two particular parts of those programs.

I was kinda disappointed to see no update to iWork, that was the big rummor going around yesterday.

Also Angry Birds rocks

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[KnoxHarrington]

I was kinda disappointed to see no update to iWork, that was the big rummor going around yesterday.

Also Angry Birds rocks

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So is it the drag motion to pull the sling shot back? That might actually work better on a mouse than the trackpad.

[Space Edge]

So is it the drag motion to pull the sling shot back? That might actually work better on a mouse than the trackpad.

I'm not sure what you mean by drag motion but you use either the mouse or trackpad and control that pointer to pull back on the slingshot. I used my mouse in the video above. It's worth getting the game now while it's $4.99 since they page says it's on sale now. They are going to end up raising the price and $4.99 is well worth it since they constantly update the iOS version of Angry Birds.

[Space Edge]

Cool little AirPlay hack that lets you stream stuff from your phone to your Mac. Easy to set up just had to download the app and it automacily found my mac when I pressed the airplay option when playing a video.

This is something that Apple should have put out, along with the AirPrint to any printer. Both of these are possible but require hacks.

Read about it here
(http://www.tuaw.com/2010/12/14/hacksugar-mac-based-airplay-service-allows-device-to-mac-playba/)Grab the files here (http://ericasadun.com/ftp/AirPlay/)

[Space Edge]

Another cool thing today they updated the Google App and now Google Googles can read sudoko puzzles (http://www.9to5mac.com/46710/google-goggles-for-ios-now-reads-print-ads-plays-http://www.9to5mac.com/46710/google-goggles-for-ios-now-reads-print-ads-plays-sudoku)

[hanso]

So is it the drag motion to pull the sling shot back? That might actually work better on a mouse than the trackpad.

I found a pc version it won't work on my pc :sad:

[KnoxHarrington]

In addition to new Macbook Pros being announced today, Apple released a beta of OS X 10.7, Lion, to developers, and put up a snazzy new site showing off the features of Lion:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/

Looks pretty damn sweet. A couple of things I like: there's a new feature called AirDrop, that allows you to wirelessly sync files across computers. FileVault is getting more features, including being able to encrypt the whole disk.

And this is really sweet: OS X Server is part of it. You will be able to set up any Mac running 10.7 as a server. That's pretty badass.

[furie]

In addition to new Macbook Pros being announced today, Apple released a beta of OS X 10.7, Lion, to developers, and put up a snazzy new site showing off the features of Lion:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/

Looks pretty damn sweet. A couple of things I like: there's a new feature called AirDrop, that allows you to wirelessly sync files across computers. FileVault is getting more features, including being able to encrypt the whole disk.

And this is really sweet: OS X Server is part of it. You will be able to set up any Mac running 10.7 as a server. That's pretty badass.

i don't know. i'm happy enough with snow leopard. what's the big upgrade that'll make me want to get it?

[Space Edge]

It looks cool, I will probably upgrade. I wonder how much it will cost Snow Leopard only cost $25 or $30 for the upgrade. I have a feeling this will cost more.

[KnoxHarrington]

It looks cool, I will probably upgrade. I wonder how much it will cost Snow Leopard only cost $25 or $30 for the upgrade. I have a feeling this will cost more.

I remember that Leopard, which was a pretty big jump from Tiger, cost $129. I don't think they can charge that much, though unlike Snow Leopard, this does seem to be introducing some fairly major changes. My guess is that it's going to come in at around $79.

[Space Edge]

I'm downloading the dev build now going to put it on a external HD and mess around with it.

[Space Edge]

I got Lion running on a external HD The first thing that I noticed that is different when I use my magic mouse scroll the page down it goes the opposite way.

[Space Edge]

So far everything about Lion kicks ass, the mail client had major overhaul.

[KnoxHarrington]

I threw Lion onto my Macbook Pro, and I've been playing around with it a bit. I've noticed, like you, the scrolling motion seems to be reversed, and I'm not sure that's intentional or it's a bug. I quickly got used to it, but it's kinda weird.

I like Mission Control a lot; it's a really cool way to see everything going on at once, better than either Expose or Spaces. Launchpad is a very cool idea, a much better way of getting at those programs you don't have in the Dock than anything we have now (either opening the Applications folder or going to Spotlight.)

I'm torn on the Mail app. It's pretty much exactly like the iPad's Mail app, and does the whole bundling conversations together, but you can turn that off if you want. I'll go further in depth with it -- as long as it preserves all the other functions in the current Snow Leopard Mail app, I think I will like it better.

My system runs better in Lion than it does in Snow Leopard, but my suspicion is that's just because it's a fresh install not loaded down with the startup items and background processes my usual 10.6 install has at this point. I'm curious what the system requirements for Lion will be -- I read somewhere they might cut some of the Intel processors loose (the ones not capable of running in 64 bit mode, which are the first couple of generations), so we'll see. It's both a good thing and a bad thing with Apple that they seem far more willing to cut systems loose and stop supporting them than Microsoft is.

[Space Edge]

You can change the scrolling back to the "default" in system preferences.

[furie]

so i'm getting the impression that it's worth getting?

[KnoxHarrington]

so i'm getting the impression that it's worth getting?

If you're wondering if you should go out and get the beta, sure, but either install it to an external like SpaceEdge did or to another partition on your hard drive like I did. it's not ready to be your everyday production OS.

When it comes out for reals, hell yes.

[KnoxHarrington]

Just discovered something: at the root directory of my 10.7 partition, there's a folder called "net".

Could this be a sign of a move more onto the cloud, free MobileMe and iTunes streaming, etc?

[Space Edge]

Do you guys use the dashboard at all ? For me it's the most pointless part of OSX I have a few widgets that I use (weather, calculator, sticky notes) but I can access the same info using other parts of the OS. What am I missing with the dashboard, why is it still around?

[Space Edge]

BTW if you don't like OSX's Mail Client and you use Gmail I sugest checking out Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/) there is a free and paid version in the app store. It only supports gmail but it has a very clean and nice UI, looks a lot like Twitter for Mac. I wish they would add support for mobileme mail and I would switch to it.


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[KnoxHarrington]

Do you guys use the dashboard at all ? For me it's the most pointless part of OSX I have a few widgets that I use (weather, calculator, sticky notes) but I can access the same info using other parts of the OS. What am I missing with the dashboard, why is it still around?

I looked to see what's in my dashboard, and the only thing I've added myself is an ESPN sports ticker, but navigating through that thing is so bulky and complicated that it's easier, like you said, to just go to the website instead.

There's also a widget my printer put on there to bullshit me about my ink levels so that I run out and buy ink cartridges well before I actually need to.

I think browser extensions have really taken a lot of the need for widgets out too. For example, I've installed the Weather Channel extension into Safari here. I can look up in my toolbar and see the temp, and if I click on it, it immediately opens a new tab showing the forecast. That's really far less obtrusive than the weather widget.

[furie]

Do you guys use the dashboard at all ? For me it's the most pointless part of OSX I have a few widgets that I use (weather, calculator, sticky notes) but I can access the same info using other parts of the OS. What am I missing with the dashboard, why is it still around?

i don't think i've launched my dashboard in a year or so

[Space Edge]

Currently on Snow Leopard corner of my screen in Expose set up to launch the dashboard and in Lion when you two fing swipe on the magic mouse/or trackpad it brings up the finder. I was just curios if anyone uses it since it seems to be something that they want you to use (Lion 2 finger swipe, dedicated key on my macbook pro)

All this stuff below I can find out using different apps or using the net

http://i.imgur.com/8eJhm.png

[Space Edge]

Apple Announcement Today!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Apple Announcement Today!

And Steve Jobs is THERE! And looks "good", as per Engadget.

Kinda looks skinny, but he hasn't looked healthy for a while.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/20110302-10093662--img4471.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

A5. March 11th. Same prices. Gyroscope, cameras, thinner, lighter, same battery life.

[Space Edge]

I'm getting one.


If you are looking to sell your old iPad or any other device I recommend jailbreaking it and selling on Ebay or Craigslist. I did that with my iPhone 3G and sold it for $400 2 years after it came out and was able to get the iPhone 4.

If you don't feel like dealing with that check this site out they are affiliated with Target and their buyback prices look really good

http://nextworth.com/

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm getting one.


If you are looking to sell your old iPad or any other device I recommend jailbreaking it and selling on Ebay or Craigslist. I did that with my iPhone 3G and sold it for $400 2 years after it came out and was able to get the iPhone 4.

If you don't feel like dealing with that check this site out they are affiliated with Target and their buyback prices look really good

http://nextworth.com/

My only concern, there seems to be confusing information on this - is the rear camera video only, or video and still?

[KnoxHarrington]

My only concern, there seems to be confusing information on this - is the rear camera video only, or video and still?

From the tech specs of iPad 2:

Back camera: Video recording, HD (720p) up to 30 frames per second with audio; still camera with 5x digital zoom
Front camera: Video recording, VGA up to 30 frames per second with audio; VGA-quality still camera
Tap to control exposure for video or stills
Photo and video geotagging over Wi-Fi

So looks like both cameras do take stills.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

[Suspect Chin]

For the iTunes experts: I just looked at my iTunes screen and there was a Library on the left side column about halfway down titled "Marc Hagen's Library". It was there for just a few seconds then it went away. My wireless is secured so I don't think anyone is on my network, but I've never heard of this person and I live out in the country, so I don't think it's a neighbor. Any ideas what could cause this?

[Fallon]

I think I may pick up an iPad 2. First Apple product I'd ever own.

[Space Edge]

According to this iOS 5 event during the second week of April

http://www.macstories.net/news/ios-5-and-mobileme-media-event-in-april/

Wonder if they are going to announce a new phone then also?

[KnoxHarrington]

According to this iOS 5 event during the second week of April

http://www.macstories.net/news/ios-5-and-mobileme-media-event-in-april/

Wonder if they are going to announce a new phone then also?

The rumor is that the free MobileMe service that was not announced at the iPad 2 announcement will be announced here.

They gotta use that huge-ass data center they've built in NC for something.

[Space Edge]

The rumor is that the free MobileMe service that was not announced at the iPad 2 announcement will be announced here.

They gotta use that huge-ass data center they've built in NC for something.

They should use it to stream the Keynotes they have like they did with the iTouch Keynote last summer.



So who is playing with their new iPad 2 right now ?

[Fallon]

This is nuts.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/YLfD1XU9dH4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[disneyspy]

This is nuts.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/YLfD1XU9dH4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

holy crap!

[Fallon]

holy crap!

I want an iPad2, but I'd never wait in a line like that.

[disneyspy]

I want an iPad2, but I'd never wait in a line like that.

what if it was a line for the new iPad2,space mountain and the best pussy in the world?

[Suspect Chin]

Anyone try the Magic Trackpad?

[Fallon]

Got my iPad2 today and I'm digging it a lot! Never owned an apple product before, it runs so smooth.

[booster11373]

I got an Ipad1 last week and have been playing with all weekend. I want to use it to read comics so I load them via itunes which is fine but does anyone know how I can stop Itunes or the Ipad from re-ordering my pages? It doesn't do it for every issue or folder I put on, just some of them

[KnoxHarrington]

I got an Ipad1 last week and have been playing with all weekend. I want to use it to read comics so I load them via itunes which is fine but does anyone know how I can stop Itunes or the Ipad from re-ordering my pages? It doesn't do it for every issue or folder I put on, just some of them

I think that's not iTunes; I think that if you upload data into a third party app like that, how it's sorted is up to that app, so check in that app's preferences.

By the way, it was just announced that AT&T will be buying T-Mobile USA. That will bring us down to 3 major cell phone carriers, but I'm kind of suspecting Verizon and Sprint will merge after this. I wonder if T-Mobile subscribers using iPhones will be allowed to come out of the cold after this.

[Dan 'Hampton]

That's what she said.

[Fallon]

Anyone know if I can get .net on my iPad and not use the mobile site? It's unnecessary.

[hanso]

Apple is evil, don't buy it.

[Skellington]

I'm really not all that into Mac products, they annoy me if anything because they are overpriced logo's that become obsolete every 6 months. That being said, the extreme depreciation factor led me to buy a friends iPad1 for under $200..... and I kind of like the stupid thing. After fiddling around with it enough to get it to run flash site's (my night school is all flash), it's a pretty dandy tablet. I can load my e-books on to it, wifi, do school, mail, watch streaming netflix, and i've DL'd some games to kill time. I wouldn't buy it off the shelf, but if you can get a secondhand one for cheap, it's a neat toy/cheap netbook. On the other hand, I was given a G4 powermac desktop with $5000 worth of recording and video editing software on it...and i want to throw it out the window, or gut it and turn the box into a magazine rack.

[Crash]

I want to run some Valve games, but my understanding is that you need to be able to run Windows on your Mac to run Steamplay. Don't want to do that.

Then I found a link to CrossOver...

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/

Anybody try/use this? It seems a little too good to be true. Just curious.

Also, I use a Macbook Pro: 10.6.7 w/2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM.GeForce 8600M GT. Even if all of this works, can I run FPS's, or am I kidding myself? :blink:

[furie]

http://thechive.com/2011/03/16/dude-hacks-times-square-screens-with-an-iphone-what-have-you-done-today-video/

[StanUpshaw]

Old and fake.

[KnoxHarrington]

I want to run some Valve games, but my understanding is that you need to be able to run Windows on your Mac to run Steamplay. Don't want to do that.

Then I found a link to CrossOver...

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/

Anybody try/use this? It seems a little too good to be true. Just curious.

Also, I use a Macbook Pro: 10.6.7 w/2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM.GeForce 8600M GT. Even if all of this works, can I run FPS's, or am I kidding myself? :blink:

Crossover is real, and does work, but it only works with a very specific list of programs. Check their site.

[Space Edge]

Lots of rumors out there about OSX Lion and iCloud. I'm excited for the WWDC. I wonder how they are going to handle existing MobileMe customers?

[Space Edge]

Anyone know if I can get .net on my iPad and not use the mobile site? It's unnecessary.

I know i'm a little late here but check out Tapatalk it's $2.99 and works with tons of different forums including .net
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tapatalk-forum-app/id307880732?mt=8

[TheGameHHH]

And.........goodbye BlackBerry (http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/apple-unveils-imessage-its-bbm-competitor-at-wwdc/)

[KnoxHarrington]

I wish that iCloud was going to be a real subscription service, allowing me to stream anything in the iTunes Store, but I think the service they unveiled is far superior to the services Google and Amazon have shown, if for no other reason than the fact you don't have to upload all your shit for days before you can actually use them.

And you basically get to make your MP3 collectoin completely legit for 25 bux a year. That's pretty sweet too. Maybe the recording industry is starting to get it, or maybe Apple finally found a way to explain this to them: "You can either not allow this and continue to get nothing for those pirate MP3's on people's systems, or you can do this and at least get a little bit out of them."

[NickyL0885]

I wish that iCloud was going to be a real subscription service, allowing me to stream anything in the iTunes Store, but I think the service they unveiled is far superior to the services Google and Amazon have shown, if for no other reason than the fact you don't have to upload all your shit for days before you can actually use them.

And you basically get to make your MP3 collectoin completely legit for 25 bux a year. That's pretty sweet too. Maybe the recording industry is starting to get it, or maybe Apple finally found a way to explain this to them: "You can either not allow this and continue to get nothing for those pirate MP3's on people's systems, or you can do this and at least get a little bit out of them."

Explain this b/c I don't get it. I need it dumbed down.

[KnoxHarrington]

Explain this b/c I don't get it. I need it dumbed down.

OK, what it will do is scan your collection and allow you to re-download high quality AAC versions of the songs, basically the same as had you purchased them at the Apple Store. And, apparently, they don't care how you got it. So basically you get a shiny new 256K version of a 128K MP3 you downloaded off Napster six years ago.

By the way, the part of iCloud that allows you to download songs and apps direct to the iPhone is active. I turned it on (it's in the iTunes Store menu) and downloaded a free app. It appeared on my iPod Touch almost instantly, without plugging it in or syncing. Pretty badass.

[Space Edge]

Im excited. I like the twitter integration ( thank god it's not Facebook integration )

I'll be paying for the music thing $25 isn't bad to go legit. Even if I only get 25 songs out of it I'll get my money's worth although I'm sure it will find more then 25 songs.

Looks like mobile me is done after June 30th 2012 . I stuck with mobile me for years and it never improved iDisk was awful.

[Dan 'Hampton]

By the way, the part of iCloud that allows you to download songs and apps direct to the iPhone is active. I turned it on (it's in the iTunes Store menu) and downloaded a free app. It appeared on my iPod Touch almost instantly, without plugging it in or syncing. Pretty badass.

Explain this better for me. I'm not finding this. Thanks

[KnoxHarrington]

Explain this better for me. I'm not finding this. Thanks

Go to the "Store" menu in settings. You should see three new boxes there, for Apps, Books, and Music.

Then after doing that, just download new content -- an app, a book, a song. It should just appear on your iPhone without you doing anything else.

[Space Edge]

to bad it won't download podcasts automatically.

[KnoxHarrington]

to bad it won't download podcasts automatically.

Yeah, that seems to me to be one of the biggest missing features here. You always have been able to download episodes of podcasts to an iOS device (just tap "Get more episodes" on the bottom of the podcast's page), but it should be over-the-air syncing.

Until then, I'm still going to have to plug in my iPod Touch to sync it, which I really shouldn't have to. Still, though, the full iCloud service is still in beta, so we'll see what else gets added.

[Space Edge]

Yeah, that seems to me to be one of the biggest missing features here. You always have been able to download episodes of podcasts to an iOS device (just tap "Get more episodes" on the bottom of the podcast's page), but it should be over-the-air syncing.

Until then, I'm still going to have to plug in my iPod Touch to sync it, which I really shouldn't have to. Still, though, the full iCloud service is still in beta, so we'll see what else gets added.

I think there might actually be a 3rd party app that will download your podcasts for you. My phone is syncing now so I'll have to look for the app that does that when it's done.

Hopefully they will add this feature in eventually.

I installed the iOS 5 beta about an hour ago and so far pretty cool. The notifcation system is a exact copy of the jailbreak tweak MobileNotifier (not surprised since Apple hired the guy last week) Twitter is heavily integrated into the OS. You can tweet from the camera roll or safari. The iPod app is no longer there now we have a separate app for Movies and Music (not sure if I like that)

Haven't played with anything else yet.

Here is a screen cap of the notification system
http://i.imgur.com/9bCOw.jpg

[Space Edge]

A few other things I have noticed

you can now flag a email just like in the Mac mail app which is awesome since I use that all the time

oh and that 3rd party Podcast app I was talking about is called Pocket Casts and from what I have read it does download the 2 latest podcast for you. Check it out it's only $2 and has great reviews

http://itunes.apple.com/app/pocket-casts/id414834813?mt=8#

[Space Edge]

oh yeah you can also use the device while it's syncing and deff check out that pocket cast app. Just downloaded it and it lets you import the podcasts you have in the iPod app and will keep them up to date.

[KnoxHarrington]

So I got to use a Mac running Lion for a while today. My verdict...oh yeah, this is fucking sweet.

I really played around with Mission Control a lot. This is a real improvement over the current Spaces/Expose combo, I think. The way it works is that when you go into Mission Control, you get your apps spread out over the screen, like in Expose. But the spaces are now at the top, in a horizontal line, that you just scroll thru to get from screen to screen. You can easily add a new space on the fly if you need one. If you have an app in full screen mode, you can easily just slide over to that and use that. I have a feeling I'm going to be doing a lot with full-screen apps on my Macbook Pro; I do'nt think they're quite as useful on a larger screen, though.

Also, the feature that reopens everything when you log out or restart is going to be really useful for me at work; it'll be nice at home, but probably not quite as useful.

My fears and doubts about the new mail app were really dealt with, and I think it's a major improvement. You can go back to the classic view with your mailboxes and the long subject lines if you want, but I think I'll just use the new iPad-like view.

AirDrop is going to be an awesome way to transfer stuff from one Mac to another. You don't even have to be on an actual network; it creates an ad hoc network between computers. It's dead easy, and nothing can be put on your computer without your permission, so it seems fairly secure.

The Address Book and iCal are also major improvements. iCal adds a feature I like from Google Calendar, which is the ability to quickly add an event by typing it out, so I can put in something like "Donkey Show in Tijuana at 1 AM on Thursday" and it'll create an event right there.

All in all, I'd go ahead and get it rather than wait. It's a major step forward.

[Space Edge]

I'm pumped for it $30 for a upgrade isn't bad at all. I'll jump on it the day it comes out. Questions I have will I be able to make a bootable disk image to save for later if I have to reinstall or will I have to put Snow Leopard back on the re download Lion then install it. There is a rumor going around all the sites that Steve Jobs emailed someone back who asked them this same question and his answers was re install Snow Leopard then download and install Lion. All the sites are saying the email is fake.

[KnoxHarrington]

I'm pumped for it $30 for a upgrade isn't bad at all. I'll jump on it the day it comes out. Questions I have will I be able to make a bootable disk image to save for later if I have to reinstall or will I have to put Snow Leopard back on the re download Lion then install it. There is a rumor going around all the sites that Steve Jobs emailed someone back who asked them this same question and his answers was re install Snow Leopard then download and install Lion. All the sites are saying the email is fake.

When you install Lion, it creates a recovery partition that the Lion install files reside in. So you really shouldn't need a disk unless your hard drive utterly shits the bed (or you replace it, of course.) I'm pretty sure you can create a Lion startup disk with the developer's preview as well.

One really cool thing: you can get into Safari and even get online from the recovery partition, so that you can get to support articles or even just watch some porn if you can't boot up otherwise.

[Space Edge]

They released 10.6.8 yesterday to prepare for Lion. They should hurry up and release Lion, I'm guessing 2nd week of July.


On a side note does anyone know how I can fix this issue I wrote about it on reddit since I couldn't find a answer anywhere else and I never thought to to ask here. Give this a read http://redd.it/i1ozo

[KnoxHarrington]

Apparently full scale wi-fi syncing is being added in iOS 5. It's available in the new preview released today.

Video here:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/24/apple-releases-ios-5-beta-2-to-developers/

[danner1515]

So anyone else download Lion today? I just installed it a couple of hours ago, so I'm just now checking stuff out.

[KnoxHarrington]

So anyone else download Lion today? I just installed it a couple of hours ago, so I'm just now checking stuff out.

Downloading it now. It's gonna be a while...not sure if it's my shitty wi-fi or the servers are just getting slammed.

By the way, it will be released on a USB key next month, for $69.

[danner1515]

Downloading it now. It's gonna be a while...not sure if it's my shitty wi-fi or the servers are just getting slammed.

By the way, it will be released on a USB key next month, for $69.

Heh, I had been "smartly" holding off on getting Snow Leopard, thinking I would just update from Leopard when Lion came out. I caved and bought SL last month when I head it was only going to be available through the App Store. Guess I still managed to save $9.

Just a heads up: they reversed the trackpad scrolling, which really confused me at first. You can change it in the settings though. I did.

[KnoxHarrington]

Heh, I had been "smartly" holding off on getting Snow Leopard, thinking I would just update from Leopard when Lion came out. I caved and bought SL last month when I head it was only going to be available through the App Store. Guess I still managed to save $9.

Just a heads up: they reversed the trackpad scrolling, which really confused me at first. You can change it in the settings though. I did.

I have resisted the urge to put scrolling back to where it was, and I'm definitely getting used to it. I'm not sure I like it better, but hey, I do kind of see the point.

Mission Control is by far my favorite part of Lion so far. It really transforms the experience of working on a laptop, and it really does feel like everything's in a cohesive whole now rather than scattered all over the place. It took me no time at all to pick up on it and start using it pretty extensively to quickly move between apps. it's a great feature.

[furie]

installing Lion now.

[furie]

are they working on an OS11 or will there be 10.8 and 10.9?

[KnoxHarrington]

are they working on an OS11 or will there be 10.8 and 10.9?

Not sure. I know that when "Lion" was announced as the name for 10.7, people were reading that as Apple announcing this was the ultimate version of OS X, the "King" of that line, and thus the end of it. I wouldn't be shocked if, eventually, iOS gets rolled onto Macs as well. I don't think that that'll be for quite a while, and my guess is that there will indeed be a 10.8 in a couple of years, but it's going to happen eventually.

[furie]

so it looks like i have to switch to The Unarchiver from the app store. stuffit expander doesn't work anymore.

[Tenbatsuzen]

So I found out today that AVG and ZoneAlarm does not play nicely with Iphones and Ipod touches at all.

I got hit with the "No Content" bug on both my phone and touch. I tried all other methods to fix it but nothing was working. Then a failed update basically bricked my ipod touch and I had to wipe it (on a different computer).

I still had the no content bug on my phone, until finally I read a few threads that suggesting shutting down AVG and ZoneAlarm, and lo and behold, the sync worked and my phone was back to normal.

Still lost a shitload of content on my touch I need to rebuild now, which sucks.

[Suspect Chin]

I downloaded the latest iPhone iOS 5.0 a few weeks ago and I noticed that if I listen to a portion of a podcast on my iMac then sync to my iPhone, the place I stopped listening doesn't update on the phone. This used to work perfectly on the old iOS. Fucking Steve Jobs.

[mendyweiss]

Good Morning,
Need help with a project on macbook (snow leopard) for Mrs. Mendy's birthday.
(Go easy here, I grew up watching Howdy Doody )

Want to make a slide show of photos in iphoto and have music in background from itune library. Would like to have a few diff songs during slide show.

Thanks in advance, and Judge Smails is still funny

[Judge Smails]

Good Morning,
Need help with a project on macbook (snow leopard) for Mrs. Mendy's birthday.
(Go easy here, I grew up watching Howdy Doody )

Want to make a slide show of photos in iphoto and have music in background from itune library. Would like to have a few diff songs during slide show.

Thanks in advance, and Judge Smails is still funny

I just happened to come across this. Unfortunately I can't help because I know jack-shit about this. But why don't one of you geeks help mendyweiss out? He's good people.

Oh, and Mendy, this is for you:

http://i.imgur.com/YzgVM.gif

[KnoxHarrington]

Good Morning,
Need help with a project on macbook (snow leopard) for Mrs. Mendy's birthday.
(Go easy here, I grew up watching Howdy Doody )

Want to make a slide show of photos in iphoto and have music in background from itune library. Would like to have a few diff songs during slide show.

Thanks in advance, and Judge Smails is still funny

It's dead easy: select the pictures you want in the slide show, then click on "Create" on the bottom bar.

Once you're in there, click on "Music". If you want more than one song, check "Custom Playlist for Slideshow" and drag the songs into there in the order you want.

Now, here's where the hard work begins. At the top of the screen, you'll see all the pictures in the slide show. You'll probably need to drag them around to make sure they show at the song you want. Additionally, you'll probably need to go into settings and adjust the time that slides are up to fill the time properly. So that, for example, you'll want to time out all your ladyboy pics to show during the song "I Enjoy Being a Girl", then switch to the bear pics while "It's Raining Men" is playing. Something like that.


It'll be some work, but it's really not that tough.

[KnoxHarrington]

Like Lion? Then you're gonna love Mountain Lion! (http://www.apple.com/macosx/mountain-lion/)

Yes, Apple announced that OS X 10.8 is on its way, and will be out this summer. A developer's beta has been released, and you can get the new Messages application, which will be the replacement for iChat, now as a beta.

It looks like it's going to further bring OS X and iOS together. It looks like a cool upgrade, and I'll probably pick it up when it's out.

Here's my favorite of the early reviews of it:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/16/os-x-mountain-lion/

[furie]

The latest Mac OS X is now just OS X. The "Mac" is now gone. It's a clear declaration of intentions. The end of Macintosh—the desktop metaphor that reigned supreme for more than two decades—is near.

Not the MacBooks and the iMacs, no, but what defines them. Their software soul. Two more years and it will be nothing but compost under the flowers of iOS.

Yes, yes, I know. "Outrage!" "Bring out the tar and the feathers!" "Burn him!"

Whatever.

The fact is that it's happening. Apple is doing it, using an app-centric user experience model, and Microsoft is doing it too, with their information-centric Metro interface. The latter will take over Windows just like iOS is taking over OS X. Yes, Microsoft is killing the desktop metaphor it copied from Apple too. (http://gizmodo.com/5885803/the-end-of-mac)

[KnoxHarrington]

The latest Mac OS X is now just OS X. The "Mac" is now gone. It's a clear declaration of intentions. The end of Macintosh—the desktop metaphor that reigned supreme for more than two decades—is near.

Not the MacBooks and the iMacs, no, but what defines them. Their software soul. Two more years and it will be nothing but compost under the flowers of iOS.

Yes, yes, I know. "Outrage!" "Bring out the tar and the feathers!" "Burn him!"

Whatever.

The fact is that it's happening. Apple is doing it, using an app-centric user experience model, and Microsoft is doing it too, with their information-centric Metro interface. The latter will take over Windows just like iOS is taking over OS X. Yes, Microsoft is killing the desktop metaphor it copied from Apple too. (http://gizmodo.com/5885803/the-end-of-mac)

I think in a lot of ways, Microsoft is going much further in combining the computer and the tablet than Apple is. I mean, even with Mountain Lion, iOS and OS X will still be very different operating systems. With Windows 8, it's the same on both devices. And I think that that's a big problem, because they're quite different environments. Windows 8, at least in the Metro UI, is very hard to use with a standard keyboard and mouse; you really do need a touch screen or at least a trackpad. You can get out of Metro, of course, but then you basically end up with something that looks exactly like Windows 7, and what's the point of paying to upgrade for that?

[furie]

A question for iphone users. I just got an iphone, my first and i'm having trouble configuring the mail client on my mac. basically i am no longer receiving mail messages to my home computer. only to the iphone and i can also view them in gmail.

anyone experience this and have a solution?

[KnoxHarrington]

Mountain Lion is being released tomorrow, 7/25.

I'll probably get it pretty much as soon as it's out.

[furie]

im going to skip this os release. i'm o lion now. considering my imac came with Leopard, and ive upgraded each time, the old gal has held up nicely.

[furie]

Ok, App discussion;
what are some good new apps put there? what are your latest obsession or novel new app?
for me, i've been playing alot of hero academy and tiny wings.

[furie]

The scuffle between Apple and Samsung continues. This morning more than 30 trucks filled with 5-cent coins arrived at Apple’s headquarters in California. Initially, the security company that protects the facility said the trucks were in the wrong place, but minutes later, Tim Cook (Apple CEO) received a call from Samsung CEO explaining that they will pay $1 billion dollars for the fine recently ruled against the South Korean company in this way. (http://www.gearaffiti.com/2012/apple/samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sending-30-trucks-full-of-5-cents-coins/)

[KnoxHarrington]

Ok, App discussion;
what are some good new apps put there? what are your latest obsession or novel new app?
for me, i've been playing alot of hero academy and tiny wings.


Get Grindr.

What is it? You'll find out. Trust me, you'll love it.

[furie]

Get Grindr.

What is it? You'll find out. Trust me, you'll love it.

sounds gay

[JimBeam]

OK so I wanted to wait for the iPhone 5 to come out so that I could get a 32G 4S for cheaper.

I'm now looking around ( AT&T, Apple, Best Buy, etc .. ) but all I'm finding is the 16G 4S.

I'm seeing refurbished ones but I'd rather buy new if I can.

My question is what the hell happened to all of the previosuly unsold 32G and 64G 4S models ?

There's no way every single one has been sold.

[PapaBear]

I don't know the answer to your question, but if the refurbs are official Apple refurbs, check into the warranty. I recently saw a re-certified MacBook Pro and Apple covered it for a year.

[furie]

OK so I wanted to wait for the iPhone 5 to come out so that I could get a 32G 4S for cheaper.

I'm now looking around ( AT&T, Apple, Best Buy, etc .. ) but all I'm finding is the 16G 4S.

I'm seeing refurbished ones but I'd rather buy new if I can.

My question is what the hell happened to all of the previosuly unsold 32G and 64G 4S models ?

There's no way every single one has been sold.

try it through apple directly

[furie]

Get Grindr.

What is it? You'll find out. Trust me, you'll love it.

Hey i was right!

[JimBeam]

try it through apple directly

I did and they don't have them either.

The answer I got from a guy in an AT&T store is that once a new version comes out they select one version of the prior model ( whether it be the 16, 32 or 64 ) to keep alive.

With the 4S they decided on the 16G and w/ the 4 it was the 8G.

Now that doesn't explain what happened to all of the 32 and 64 ones that had to be in the market and hadn't been sold. Surely not every single one that was made was sold.

Guess I'm looking at a refurb.

[cougarjake13]

OK so I wanted to wait for the iPhone 5 to come out so that I could get a 32G 4S for cheaper.

I'm now looking around ( AT&T, Apple, Best Buy, etc .. ) but all I'm finding is the 16G 4S.

I'm seeing refurbished ones but I'd rather buy new if I can.

My question is what the hell happened to all of the previosuly unsold 32G and 64G 4S models ?

There's no way every single one has been sold.





maybe they bring em back in and make it the lesser version ?

[KnoxHarrington]

I did and they don't have them either.

The answer I got from a guy in an AT&T store is that once a new version comes out they select one version of the prior model ( whether it be the 16, 32 or 64 ) to keep alive.

With the 4S they decided on the 16G and w/ the 4 it was the 8G.

Now that doesn't explain what happened to all of the 32 and 64 ones that had to be in the market and hadn't been sold. Surely not every single one that was made was sold.

Guess I'm looking at a refurb.

They're probably holding on to a lot of the unsold 32 and 64 GB iPhone 4's as repair/replacement units.

[hanso]

Can You Be Electrocuted By Your Smartphone?


Could your smartphone really give you a lethal electric shock?

That question was on the minds of many Monday amid news that Apple is investigating the death of a woman in China whose family said she was electrocuted after answering a call on her iPhone while the device was recharging.

The death of Ma Ailun, 23, was first reported Sunday by China's Xinhua News Agency. Citing police reports and social media posts by Ma's family, Xinhua reported that Ma, who lived in China's western Xinjiang region, collapsed to the floor Thursday after using her iPhone 5 while the battery was being charged.

"We are deeply saddened to learn of this tragic incident and offer our condolences to the Ma family. We will fully investigate and cooperate with authorities in this matter," Apple said in a statement sent to CNN and other news agencies.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/15/tech/gaming-gadgets/iphone-woman-electrocuted/index.html?hpt=hp_t2