Silly Nagger

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Dr. Laura to leave radio amid N-word controversy
Schlessinger, under fire since using a racial slur on her radio show, won't renew her contract. 'I want my 1st Amendment rights back,' she says, citing threats.

Schlessinger drew fire last week when she got into a discussion with a woman who called in to get advice on what to do about racial comments made by relatives. Schlessinger suggested the caller was "hypersensitive" to racism and observed that many African Americans use the very racial epithet that they hate hearing non-African American use. Schlessinger used the N-word repeatedly in making her case.

Schlessinger apologized the next day, saying her behavior had been wrong.

Dr. Laura — is said by the trade journal Talkers magazine to have the third highest rated talk radio show in the country, trailing only Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.


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[Barnaby Jones]

About damn time! I don't care if she's a racist or not; she had one of the absolute worst radio shows of all time! And those books, blech!

[Dude!]

About damn time! I don't care if she's a racist or not; she had one of the absolute worst radio shows of all time! And those books, blech!

yeah, god forbid
that children should
be raised by two parents

[Barnaby Jones]

Trolling troll is trollish!

[Furtherman]

yeah, god forbid
that children should
be raised by two parents

That's right. Only children who are raised by two parents turn out normal.

[Chigworthy]

You guys are missing the main issue:

Would you?

[hanso]

What does her giving it up prove?

[STC-Dub]

I don't have a radio show and even I know you cannot go off like that. Tough to feel sorry for someone who is set for life when they screwed themselves.

[Crispy123]

You guys are missing the main issue:

Would you?

thats a silly question, hell yes!!! Id make a little DR L bundle of cash, I mean joy!

[Kevin]

thats a silly question, hell yes!!! Id make a little DR L bundle of cash, I mean joy!



Anchor baby?

[KnoxHarrington]

You know, if you asked me "What popular radio personality's career will end with him or her screaming the N-bomb over and over at a caller?" I probably would have guessed Michael Savage. Or maybe Glenn Beck.

Why wouldn't it be Anthony Cumia? Notice I said popular radio personality.

[TripleSkeet]

Dont really care about her, but it is annoying that they are forcing her out of her job. I heard what she said, and in that context she really wasnt out of line. Im sorry, I just dont get how one group of people are not allowed to say a certain word, regardless of context.

[Space Edge]

You know, if you asked me "What popular radio personality's career will end with him or her screaming the N-bomb over and over at a caller?" I probably would have guessed Michael Savage. Or maybe Glenn Beck.

Why wouldn't it be Anthony Cumia? Notice I said popular radio personality.

You should have just let the Anthony line hang until someone brought him up and then you could have said " Notice I said popular radio personality"

[PapaBear]

Dont really care about her, but it is annoying that they are forcing her out of her job. I heard what she said, and in that context she really wasnt out of line. Im sorry, I just dont get how one group of people are not allowed to say a certain word, regardless of context.
I can't stand her, but the point she was trying to make was totally valid. Though she should have known better than to say it for professional reasons, it's ridiculous that words can ruin people these days.

[TripleSkeet]

I can't stand her, but the point she was trying to make was totally valid. Though she should have known better than to say it for professional reasons, it's ridiculous that words can ruin people these days.

Im not sure if its the fact that a word can ruin a career, or the huge double standard there is that bothers me more.

[Barnaby Jones]

It really is sad that white people have to deprive themselves of such an essential and every day word! How will we ever survive?!?

[TripleSkeet]

It really is sad that white people have to deprive themselves of such an essential and every day word! How will we ever survive?!?

Its got nothing to do with survival. Its about living in a "free country" with "equality for all". If thats truly the goal things like this dont help.

If a famous actor gets fired for calling someone an "ignorant nigger" dont you think its kind of childish and moronic that when the news reports it it has to say "This famous actor got fired today for calling his co-worker and ignorant N-word." Thats just a dumb example but I mean as an adult it just seems silly and like child speak to have to do things this way.

[Barnaby Jones]

Its got nothing to do with survival. Its about living in a "free country" with "equality for all". If thats truly the goal things like this dont help.

If a famous actor gets fired for calling someone an "ignorant nigger" dont you think its kind of childish and moronic that when the news reports it it has to say "This famous actor got fired today for calling his co-worker and ignorant N-word." Thats just a dumb example but I mean as an adult it just seems silly and like child speak to have to do things this way.

I don't see how that's any different than how a news broadcast will self-censor words like "fuck" or "shit" and the like!

It has nothing to do with "equality!" Anyone who uses it sounds like a moron, and white people bemoaning that they shouldn't be able to be able to sound that dumb are just compounding the stupidity!

[PapaBear]

I don't see how that's any different than how a news broadcast will self-censor words like "fuck" or "shit" and the like!

It has nothing to do with "equality!" Anyone who uses it sounds like a moron, and white people bemoaning that they shouldn't be able to be able to sound that dumb are just compounding the stupidity!
Did you hear the point she was making? She wasn't saying white people should be able to say it. She said that, for a word that blacks don't like, they say it an awful lot themselves.

[TripleSkeet]

I don't see how that's any different than how a news broadcast will self-censor words like "fuck" or "shit" and the like!

It has nothing to do with "equality!" Anyone who uses it sounds like a moron, and white people bemoaning that they shouldn't be able to be able to sound that dumb are just compounding the stupidity!

Context is important, and using it doesnt make you sound like a moron. If youre a professor on the history or race relations doesnt it make sense you would have to use that word in order to lecture? Im sorry, but bringing a word down to a letter is ridiculous and childish. We tell 5 year olds not to use the F word or the S word. As an adult as long as its not breaking any FCC rules, and its not, an adult having an adult copnversation should be able to say anything without having to fear for their livelyhood.

The bottom line is if she was a black man or woman and said the exact same thing in the exact same situation, she wouldnt have heard a peep let alone be forced out of her job. And personally, I feel thats bullshit. You dont have to agree, you can have your opinion, I have mine. Mine isnt going to change.

[hanso]

Anchor baby?

Jackpot baby is the new buzz word now. Thanks to Billo for the update.

[Barnaby Jones]

Context is important, and using it doesnt make you sound like a moron. If youre a professor on the history or race relations doesnt it make sense you would have to use that word in order to lecture? Im sorry, but bringing a word down to a letter is ridiculous and childish. We tell 5 year olds not to use the F word or the S word. As an adult as long as its not breaking any FCC rules, and its not, an adult having an adult copnversation should be able to say anything without having to fear for their livelyhood.

The bottom line is if she was a black man or woman and said the exact same thing in the exact same situation, she wouldnt have heard a peep let alone be forced out of her job. And personally, I feel thats bullshit. You dont have to agree, you can have your opinion, I have mine. Mine isnt going to change.

Where are these professors being fired for or prevented from using words like that in the context of a lecture?

[Barnaby Jones]

Did you hear the point she was making? She wasn't saying white people should be able to say it. She said that, for a word that blacks don't like, they say it an awful lot themselves.

And so that makes any kind of sense that she go off and start spouting it herself? She's a dolt! It's one of the rare words we have that has nothing but a loaded, vile history to it, and this dumbass idea that people can "take it back" or it'll lose it's power if more people say it is retarded!

[sailor]

So, she had the legal right to say it, but it wasn't a wise decision for other reasons?

[Dude!]

So, she had the legal right to say it, but it wasn't a wise decision for other reasons?

a subtle comparison
to the mosque...v good

[Jujubees2]

You guys are missing the main issue:

Would you?

Nope. Not even with Dude!'s johnson

[Barnaby Jones]

a subtle comparison
to the mosque...v good

This place has a raging case of bad analogy-itis!

Unless the mosque has the inherently hurtful and negative history that completely defines the word "nigger" then, no, that's a shitty comparison!

[Crispy123]

Did you hear the point she was making? She wasn't saying white people should be able to say it. She said that, for a word that blacks don't like, they say it an awful lot themselves.

yeah, then she told the lady not to marry outside of her race...

[Dude!]

Nope. Not even with Dude!'s johnson

'cause you want to keep that
all to yourself

[sailor]

This place has a raging case of bad analogy-itis!

Unless the mosque has the inherently hurtful and negative history that completely defines the word "nigger" then, no, that's a shitty comparison!

So, people are offended by this and it's valid, while people are offended by the other and tough shit on them? I think it's tough shit on both offended groups, but can understand why each group is offended.

[Barnaby Jones]

So, people are offended by this and it's valid, while people are offended by the other and tough shit on them? I think it's tough shit on both groups.

Seriously, you've failed, just move on! If you honestly can't see the difference between a mosque/community center and the people who attend it and how people are choosing to be offended by them even though they've done nothing out of the ordinary, and using a word that has existed only to hurt and degrade and dehumanize and offend, well, there's not much anyone can do to help you get it! Not using the word "nigger" like she did is just common sense and is an example of human decency. What's decent about a bunch of people who have done nothing wrong being punished and prevented from doing something completely normal and everyday simply because of who they are and because of the misguided intolerance of others? Why should we be tolerant of someone who stupidly tosses that word out like it ain't no thang, especially when it's someone who has gone out of her way to belittle and dehumanize groups of people she thinks are "wrong?" Either way you're defending intolerance, sailor!

[TripleSkeet]

Where are these professors being fired for or prevented from using words like that in the context of a lecture?

They arent. That response was to your quote that "anyone that uses it sounds like a moron". In my opinion unless you are referring to a person as that.....then its not a slur. In the context of what Dr. Laura said....it wasnt a slur. Therefore punishing her for it seems ridiculous.

[TripleSkeet]

So, people are offended by this and it's valid, while people are offended by the other and tough shit on them? I think it's tough shit on both offended groups, but can understand why each group is offended.

I agree with this 100%. Sorry Barnaby but you sound like a complete ass in this case. Offensive is offensive. There arent different levels of offense. And if there was, who gets to decide whats appropriate and whats not?

[Barnaby Jones]

They arent. That response was to your quote that "anyone that uses it sounds like a moron". In my opinion unless you are referring to a person as that.....then its not a slur. In the context of what Dr. Laura said....it wasnt a slur. Therefore punishing her for it seems ridiculous.

You're right, I should have clarified; anyone who uses it casually sounds like a moron, which is what she did! She used the context of the conversation to go off on a silly "they always say 'nigger this' and 'nigger that'" rant! Given that and her past history, this clearly isn't someone trying to have some kind of academic discussion or analysis of the word; she was looking for an excuse and she paid for making a mistake and doing her job shittily!

[Barnaby Jones]

I agree with this 100%. Sorry Barnaby but you sound like a complete ass in this case. Offensive is offensive. There arent different levels of offense. And if there was, who gets to decide whats appropriate and whats not?

Because there are clearly different contexts, and she was just jumping on an excuse to be shocking! Tough shit, and she failed at her job! She runs around spouting family values and all that shit, and then think she can go off on a tirade like that on her radio show in the middle of the day! Newsflash, doc: people say "fuck" all the time, too. Just because a word isn't on the FCC list doesn't mean someone shouldn't pay the price for pushing the line too far and willfully using such a loaded and hurtful word just to be shocking! She should have been smarter!

[sailor]

It's amusing how you are the king of freedom of speech, then turn around and want to deny it to others because you're offended, all the while saying it doesn't matter if the people in the first example are offended. Btw, your use of the "n" thing is just as offensive to some as hers was, I'm sure. You're just not consistent.

[TripleSkeet]

You're right, I should have clarified; anyone who uses it casually sounds like a moron, which is what she did! She used the context of the conversation to go off on a silly "they always say 'nigger this' and 'nigger that'" rant! Given that and her past history, this clearly isn't someone trying to have some kind of academic discussion or analysis of the word; she was looking for an excuse and she paid for making a mistake and doing her job shittily!

But she was actually on point with what she was saying. Which is for a word thats supposedly so bad, why does the black community throw it out there so casually? To say what she said was indecent is just a huge overexaggeration. She wasnt belittling anyone. She was making a point while speaking like an adult, instead of using the childish "N word". What kills me is the N word means nigger. Everyone knows this. How does saying it like that make it any better then saying the word?????

[Barnaby Jones]

It's amusing how you are the king of freedom of speech, then turn around and want to deny it to others because you're offended, all the while saying it doesn't matter if the people in the first example are offended. Btw, your use of the "n" thing is just as offensive to some as hers was, I'm sure. You're just not consistent.

Might want to study up on what freedom of speech actually means, buck-o! It's irrelevant here! She fucked up and various stations and sponsors dropped her...the almighty dollar spoke! God bless America!

And clearly you haven't even read what she said or listened to it if you think my posts are in anywhere near the same context or have the same hateful, small minded history as here! Face fact; your analogy completely failed and now you're scrambling to not look like a chump!

Got anything else to set up so I can smack it down, champ?

[Barnaby Jones]

But she was actually on point with what she was saying. Which is for a word thats supposedly so bad, why does the black community throw it out there so casually? To say what she said was indecent is just a huge overexaggeration. She wasnt belittling anyone. She was making a point while speaking like an adult, instead of using the childish "N word". What kills me is the N word means nigger. Everyone knows this. How does saying it like that make it any better then saying the word?????

Because it shows that we're at least attempting to move on and strip it of it's power! The idea that more people using it is somehow going to "fix it" or "take it back" is stupid because it's such an exceptional word in that it's history is defined by specifically degrading and dehumanizing people who were treated as less than people! Even amongst other slurs it's exceptional! It's a fucking stupid word, and some morons are just looking for an excuse to rattle it off because they know the impact it has. Read the transcript of what she said, read up on what kind of person she's presented herself as and her political and social views and how she looks down on groups of people and you'll realize this wasn't just some innocent little mistake; it was a mistake in the sense that she let her ego get the best of her. She could have easily made the point she was making with going on a tirade where she dropped the n-bomb a dozen times, yet she chose not to and she paid the price! Oh well!

[Dude!]

It's amusing how you are the king of freedom of speech, then turn around and want to deny it to others because you're offended, all the while saying it doesn't matter if the people in the first example are offended. Btw, your use of the "n" thing is just as offensive to some as hers was, I'm sure. You're just not consistent.

yeah, he went out of
his way to spell out the n-word
not once but twice

he was looking for an excuse
to do that, just like Dr. Laura

[Barnaby Jones]

yeah, he went out of
his way to spell out the n-word
not once but twice

he was looking for an excuse
to do that, just like Dr. Laura

Trolling troll is trollish yet again!

Also not surprising that once again sailor is your buddy! Hmmm, wonder if I'll get another private message about that! Guess that what happens when an obvious troll is somehow made an administrator! Who was asleep at that controls that day?!?!? LOLOLLOL!!!

[Dude!]

Trolling troll is trollish yet again!

Also not surprising that once again sailor is your buddy! Hmmm, wonder if I'll get another private message about that! Guess that what happens when an obvious troll is somehow made an administrator! Who was asleep at that controls that day?!?!? LOLOLLOL!!!

you should worry about
your own behavior

you delighted in using
the n-word twice
when it wasn't necessary

i knew all along you were
a phony...a racist phony
thanks for proving it

[Barnaby Jones]

Trolling troll just can't quit!

I "delighted?" Did you and WF graduate from the same delusional school for special studies in insanity?

I'll wait for you to log back in as sailor to reply!

[TripleSkeet]

Because it shows that we're at least attempting to move on and strip it of it's power! The idea that more people using it is somehow going to "fix it" or "take it back" is stupid because it's such an exceptional word in that it's history is defined by specifically degrading and dehumanizing people who were treated as less than people! Even amongst other slurs it's exceptional! It's a fucking stupid word, and some morons are just looking for an excuse to rattle it off because they know the impact it has. Read the transcript of what she said, read up on what kind of person she's presented herself as and her political and social views and how she looks down on groups of people and you'll realize this wasn't just some innocent little mistake; it was a mistake in the sense that she let her ego get the best of her. She could have easily made the point she was making with going on a tirade where she dropped the n-bomb a dozen times, yet she chose not to and she paid the price! Oh well!

1. I dont need to read the transcript because I listened to the tape.
2. Her political or social views have no bearing on this. They shouldnt even be mentioned.
3. "Stripping a word of its power" is just a ridiculous notion. The only power a word has is the power the victim lets it have over them. Its just a word.
4. This kind of shit isnt stopping people from saying it. I hear it all the time. All this is doing is forcing professionals into talking like 5 year olds out of fear of "offending" someone.
5. There is no such thing as stupid words, just stupid people.

Remember, ever time a person says "The N word" they are saying the word nigger. And everybody knows it. How is that stripping it of its power????

[Dude!]

sailor will be thrilled
to hear about your theory

just as you were thrilled
to be able to use the n-word
twice

racist phony

[Barnaby Jones]

1. I dont need to read the transcript because I listened to the tape.
2. Her political or social views have no bearing on this. They shouldnt even be mentioned.
3. "Stripping a word of its power" is just a ridiculous notion. The only power a word has is the power the victim lets it have over them. Its just a word.
4. This kind of shit isnt stopping people from saying it. I hear it all the time. All this is doing is forcing professionals into talking like 5 year olds out of fear of "offending" someone.
5. There is no such thing as stupid words, just stupid people.



Remember, ever time a person says "The N word" they are saying the word nigger. And everybody knows it. How is that stripping it of its power????

It's obviously not "just a word," otherwise we wouldn't be having this debate! History and context is everything, whether it's with that word or the person saying it! Nobody is talking like a child if they self-censor that word!

[Barnaby Jones]

sailor will be thrilled
to hear about your theory

just as you were thrilled
to be able to use the n-word
twice

racist phony

Trolling troll is desperate after getting spanked over his financial "analysis!"

Poor little dear!

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[Barnaby Jones]

The real offense is that Richard Pryor is dead and Chevy Chase isn't!

[Dude!]

Trolling troll is desperate after getting spanked over his financial "analysis!"

Poor little dear!

i dismiss anything
coming from racists like you

[Barnaby Jones]

i dismiss anything
coming from racists like you

Keep scrambling, trolly!

[Kevin]

Nice comeback on the argument, Sailor!

Put a mod quote on him..

THAT WILL LEARN HIM!

[Snacks]

Because it shows that we're at least attempting to move on and strip it of it's power! The idea that more people using it is somehow going to "fix it" or "take it back" is stupid because it's such an exceptional word in that it's history is defined by specifically degrading and dehumanizing people who were treated as less than people! Even amongst other slurs it's exceptional! It's a fucking stupid word, and some morons are just looking for an excuse to rattle it off because they know the impact it has. Read the transcript of what she said, read up on what kind of person she's presented herself as and her political and social views and how she looks down on groups of people and you'll realize this wasn't just some innocent little mistake; it was a mistake in the sense that she let her ego get the best of her. She could have easily made the point she was making with going on a tirade where she dropped the n-bomb a dozen times, yet she chose not to and she paid the price! Oh well!

Thats just moronic. Someone else said something to me the other day on this subject. Why is it that blacks hate the word "nigger" so much but call themselves it? Yet every other race of people never call themselves words that they would hate if said by others. For example whites dont call each other cracker. Italians dont call other Italians Wop or guinea, Asians dont call each others gooks or slant eyes, Mexicans dont call each other spics or beaners. But blakcs love to call each other nigger?!!! If its such a bad word, respect yourself enough to not call yourself that. No other group of people go out of their way to fight against something and then allow it to be used amongst themselves. It actually shows that the word is just that a word and to use the idiotic and stupid argument that "you are stripping it of its power" is even more moronic then I could ever imagine. If you want to strip it of its power then dont get mad when its used, dont allow it to have power. If you cant do that then have some self discipline and dont use the word at all. Teach others that its wrong by not using it. When you throw it around like its nothing then you have no right to get mad about it and say it has power.

At the end of the day its a word, awful or not its only a word. The people that fight against it use it which gives it even more power. If you want to take the power out of the word, dont use it and it will fade away and be heard less and less. All those other derogatory words I mentioned I barley hear but the word nigger I hear more now then I did 20 years ago and it comes out of the mouth of people who hate the word most!

Ironic or moronic? maybe both!

[Barnaby Jones]

I said it was moronic! So why compound that stupidity?!?!?! Plus you backed up my point; if the word is said less and less it will eventually disappear! Everyone wants to keep saying that it's "just a word," but this is one of the few cases where a word isn't just a word because it's so synonymous with hate and ignorance!

[Serpico1103]

Trolling troll is desperate after getting spanked over his financial "analysis!"

Poor little dear!

That was so funny.

[Kevin]

Carlos Hacksia and George Lopez use beaner alot...

[Snacks]

I said it was moronic! So why compound that stupidity?!?!?! Plus you backed up my point; if the word is said less and less it will eventually disappear! Everyone wants to keep saying that it's "just a word," but this is one of the few cases where a word isn't just a word because it's so synonymous with hate and ignorance!

but what about the use of it by their own people? Why is it that no other ethnic group is classless enough to call themselves the same words they hate said by others? How can you expect to be respected when you have no respect for yourself? I would never walk up to another Italian American and think its ok to call him a wop and then shake his hand or right a rap song and say guinea this and guinea that. But so many blacks have no problem calling everyone a nigger that is their boy but god forbid it comes out of the mouth of someone else?!

[Pitdoc]

1.Richard Pryor (I'd add Chris Rock, but it was Pryor who made it funny,then recanted it )
2.George Carlin - Because he basically spelled it out that it was ONLY A WORD
3 & 4- Patti Smith & Yoko Ono - They both used the word's full power in song

[Barnaby Jones]

but what about the use of it by their own people?

How many times do I have to say that anyone using it as slang or an insult sounds like an idiot?!?

[Snacks]

How many times do I have to say that anyone using it as slang or an insult sounds like an idiot?!?

thats fine that you do but most people dont say a word when it is a black person saying it. thats the problem and the fact that the same black people that have no problem saying it to their friends or in a rap are the same one who bitch when a white person says it. Hypocrites that also have no class.

[spoon]

but what about the use of it by their own people? Why is it that no other ethnic group is classless enough to call themselves the same words they hate said by others? How can you expect to be respected when you have no respect for yourself? I would never walk up to another Italian American and think its ok to call him a wop and then shake his hand or right a rap song and say guinea this and guinea that. But so many blacks have no problem calling everyone a nigger that is their boy but god forbid it comes out of the mouth of someone else?!

Camps, I hear Italians talk like that to each other all the fucking time. Hell, look at Jersey shore and you'll see it used in every episode. It's all about context and where you come from. To say this woman has a history and the word was loaded is putting it lightly. She's no crusader for free speech here.

[Snacks]

Camps, I hear Italians talk like that to each other all the fucking time. Hell, look at Jersey shore and you'll see it used in every episode. It's all about context and where you come from. To say this woman has a history and the word was loaded is putting it lightly. She's no crusader for free speech here.

I dont think I have ever heard them say wop or guinea on Jersey Shore once. I have heard guido but that sure as hell doesnt only mean Italian American.

Im not making the argument to defend Dr Laura, I cant stand her. I also not saying the word should be said. My argument is that the people who say it the most are the ones offended the most often when its said. I feel if you have any respect for yourself or race and see that word being an offensive word then respect yourself enough not to use it when talking to yo boyzzz.