Burqa ban passes French lower house overwhelmingly

[hanso]

Burqa ban passes French lower house overwhelmingly.

Jul 13, 2010 ... If the French bill is approved by the upper house and signed into law, it will be the first national ban in Europe on the burqa, a full-body veil.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/07/13/france.burqa.ban/index.html


Muslim women might have to show their muggs. Comments?

[hanso]

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[Penelope]

http://www.10pix.ru/img1/1965/1874942.gif

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Bwahahahahaha
Right there is a great reason to keep the burqa

[StanUpshaw]

Comments?

The Paris bureau of the ACLU (FCLU?) has been slacking.

[A.J.]

Muslim women might have to show their muggs. Comments?

I'd rather they show their juggs.

[LordJezo]

I don't agree with a ban, let these bozos do what they want, but I do agree with making them remove it when having to take ID pictures for things like passports or drivers licenses or other things where seeing a person's face is required.

[Furtherman]

I don't agree with a ban, let these bozos do what they want, but I do agree with making them remove it when having to take ID pictures for things like passports or drivers licenses or other things where seeing a person's face is required.

Hey. This makes sense. WTF?

[sailor]

Hey. This makes sense. WTF?

He did throw in bozos.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im starvin, anyone got freedom fries ?

[Syd]

and every time one of your liberal friends talks about the glorious utopia of Europe, remind them that they're even more xenophobic than the US somehow

[foodcourtdruide]

and every time one of your liberal friends talks about the glorious utopia of Europe, remind them that they're even more xenophobic than the US somehow

Actually, I think I hear more conservatives pretend that all liberals believe Europe is some kind of utopia (kind of like the Obama messiah thing). I've always heard that France and England were pretty racist countries.

[A.J.]

and every time one of your liberal friends talks about the glorious utopia of Europe, remind them that they're even more xenophobic than the US somehow

Especially when most of them liked being the colonizer back in the day.

[Contra]

FINALLY!

Now all they have to do is ban full body vest bombs and they'll be all set

[Pitdoc]

Actually, I think I hear more conservatives pretend that all liberals believe Europe is some kind of utopia (kind of like the Obama messiah thing). I've always heard that France and England were pretty racist countries.

I'm not sure, but I now that a similar bill last year in France banned all head coverings.What else did it ban then? Yamukahs.

[hanso]

I'd rather they show their juggs.

Well this could be a start.

[scottinnj]

I've always heard that France and England were pretty racist countries.

They are, and yet they're so liberal.

[Bob Impact]

Did an article about burqas in france really turn into a liberal vs conservative argument?

Not that it's a valid reason but they do have a recent history of rioting and violence out of the muslim population there.

[dereckfishboy]

Did an article about burqas in france really turn into a liberal vs conservative argument?

Not that it's a valid reason but they do have a recent history of rioting and violence out of the muslim population there.

There they go busting apart stereotypes again

[Barnaby Jones]

There they go busting apart stereotypes again

We should ban guns here since we have a history of gun violence coming from the gun-owning population!

[hanso]

Ankles and shins woot!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Now only if they would lift the ban on Showering

[brettmojo]

We should ban guns here since we have a history of gun violence coming from the gun-owning population!
Depends on how you define "owners".

[dereckfishboy]

We should ban guns here since we have a history of gun violence coming from the gun-owning population!

Since you mention it, I have a theory as to a large percentage of that gun violence

[hanso]

Ant rant coming up.

[Syd]

They are, and yet they're so liberal.

Don't worry, there's a "whites only" British National Party that is highly conservative and Geert Wilders of the Party for Freedom in The Netherlands that would pass for your run of the mill tea party politician. Well, he did try to institute a tax for wearing religious headwear. I can't find the article but the word he actually used was "silly hat tax" which was sanitized to something in English. No one is taking a monopoly of racism there, plenty to go around.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Don't worry, there's a "whites only" British National Party that is highly conservative and Geert Wilders of the Party for Freedom in The Netherlands that would pass for your run of the mill tea party politician. Well, he did try to institute a tax for wearing religious headwear. I can't find the article but the word he actually used was "silly hat tax" which was sanitized to something in English. No one is taking a monopoly of racism there, plenty to go around.

Western countries have their pockets of bigotry but are generally tolerant of other people, however some of the most guilty countries of bigotry are Muslim dominated countries. Dont get caught weaing a star of David in Saudi Arabia. In Iran all women regardless of religion must cover their hair. There was recently a report of a woman who was to be stoned to death. Gotta love that Sharia law. Also many of these countries allow honor killings, female genital mutilation and death sentences for gays.

[scottinnj]

Don't worry, there's a "whites only" British National Party that is highly conservative and Geert Wilders of the Party for Freedom in The Netherlands that would pass for your run of the mill tea party politician. Well, he did try to institute a tax for wearing religious headwear. I can't find the article but the word he actually used was "silly hat tax" which was sanitized to something in English. No one is taking a monopoly of racism there, plenty to go around.

Agreed. I was just thinking out loud. Those here who point to Europe for it's progressiveness should just remember they are just as screwed up, if not more, racially then we are.

Those over there who are out & out racists are complete animals, and those who want to change the world are merely elite whiteys who wind up passing laws that are more patronizing to minorities then laws that truly help minorities.

[Barnaby Jones]

Western countries have their pockets of bigotry but are generally tolerant of other people, however some of the most guilty countries of bigotry are Muslim dominated countries. Dont get caught weaing a star of David in Saudi Arabia. In Iran all women regardless of religion must cover their hair. There was recently a report of a woman who was to be stoned to death. Gotta love that Sharia law. Also many of these countries allow honor killings, female genital mutilation and death sentences for gays.

So your suggestion to combat intolerance is with more intolerance?

[dereckfishboy]

So your suggestion to combat intolerance is with more intolerance?

I think he's more trying to say that some cultures, while still needing work, are at least making progress

[DonInNC]

Did an article about burqas in france really turn into a liberal vs conservative argument?



This. America, 2010.

[Dude!]

islamic women are generally
fat, hairy and hideous

burqas are a wonderful thing

[WRESTLINGFAN]

islamic women are generally
fat, hairy and hideous

burqas are a wonderful thing

black burquas make them look thinner :smile:

[Barnaby Jones]

I think he's more trying to say that some cultures, while still needing work, are at least making progress

What a ridiculous generalization!

[hanso]

Since you mention it, I have a theory as to a large percentage of that gun violence

You could pack some heat in a burqa. Maybe make a good ninja also.

[hanso]

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Or be a crime fighter!

[Syd]

Agreed. I was just thinking out loud. Those here who point to Europe for it's progressiveness should just remember they are just as screwed up, if not more, racially then we are.

Those over there who are out & out racists are complete animals, and those who want to change the world are merely elite whiteys who wind up passing laws that are more patronizing to minorities then laws that truly help minorities.

Yeah I just wanted to point out that it was a European problem, not a political ideology thing. Say what you will about America but in this instance we're a hell of a lot more sane about religion than Europe.

[Crispy123]

They are, and yet they're so liberal.

How are they so liberal?

[hanso]

Yeah I just wanted to point out that it was a European problem, not a political ideology thing. Say what you will about America but in this instance we're a hell of a lot more sane about religion than Europe.

We do have laws like this. The one that comes to mind is you can't wear masks like if it was Halloween. Religion may be an underlying cause. But I'm guessing appearance and practicality has more to do with this.

[Syd]

We do have laws like this. The one that comes to mind is you can't wear masks like if it was Halloween. Religion may be an underlying cause. But I'm guessing appearance and practicality has more to do with this.

Laws like what? Muslims are free to wear a burqa, though certain circumstances may prevent them from some activities. Same goes for Sikhs and their kirpans -- again, circumstances may prevent them from some activities. No one has gone out of the way to outright ban articles of faith since freedom of religion is sacrosanct.

[Recyclerz]

Spain may be next to Bork the burqa (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iXTeJXk6d0HDxNRKn-1F_PM0GvSgD9H1N7MG0)

The Euros are telling themselves that they are going in this direction because they are so evolved, secular and reason-based but I suspect it is they are as worried at being overrun by Muslims as the Rio Grande Wall Builders are fraidy scared of the Latin Americans. There is a lot more "ghettoization"of Muslims in Europe and those neighborhoods are the real breeding grounds of radical Islamist beliefs that we should be worried about. Despite the periodic outbreaks of xenophobia in the US we have a pretty good record and a reasonably good process for intergrating waves of emigrants. Europe is setting itself up for problems - politically and demographcally.

[dereckfishboy]

As long as these measures are passing a democratic vote that's approved by a majority of the populace, then the system is working exactly as it is designed to work. The responsibility, as heavy as it is, lies on Muslim population to convince the majority that they are ignorant in their way of thinking. That's the way democracy works, folks.

[PapaBear]

As long as these measures are passing a democratic vote that's approved by a majority of the populace, then the system is working exactly as it is designed to work. The responsibility, as heavy as it is, lies on Muslim population to convince the majority that they are ignorant in their way of thinking. That's the way democracy works, folks.
Unless they have something like our Supreme Court. Democracy doesn't fully work without it.

[StanUpshaw]

As long as these measures are passing a democratic vote that's approved by a majority of the populace, then the system is working exactly as it is designed to work. The responsibility, as heavy as it is, lies on Muslim population to convince the majority that they are ignorant in their way of thinking. That's the way democracy works, folks.

No, that's called tyranny of the masses, and it's why things like constitutions are drafted.

[dereckfishboy]

No, that's called tyranny of the masses, and it's why things like constitutions are drafted.

Tyranny? That's awfully dramatic.

[StanUpshaw]

Tyranny? That's awfully dramatic.

Blame de Tocqueville. (http://books.google.com/books?id=JkyRA1UohvsC&dq=inauthor%3A%22Alexis%20de%20Tocqueville%22%20vo lume&pg=PA275#v=onepage&q&f=false)

[Kevin]

islamic women are generally
fat, hairy and hideous

burqas are a wonderful thing



Do you actualy ever get out the house and turn off fox news?

Alot of Middle Eastern, especialy Iranian women would put women anywhere to shame.

You could be the dumbest person alive.

[A.J.]

Alot of Middle Eastern, especialy Iranian women would put women anywhere to shame.

True that. Watching the Syrian and Lebanese channels is like watching Univision: I don't understand a word they're saying --- and I don't care.

[Kevin]

True that. Watching the Syrian and Lebanese channels is like watching Univision: I don't understand a word they're saying --- and I don't care.



My mom watches the spanish soaps, does not know a word of if but somehow knows everything that goes on.

[Chigworthy]

True that.

You said "true that"?

[A.J.]

You said "true that"?

No, I typed it.

[Dude!]

You could be the dumbest person alive.

ha ha...that coming from
an albanian waterhead

[Kevin]

ha ha...that coming from
an albanian waterhead

Yawn, cleatus, Yawn.

How is your mother.. sister, daughter wife doing?

Did she pass that test she took?

[hanso]

Spain-next-in-line-to-ban-burka

Spain could become the third European country to ban the burka in public places on the grounds that it oppresses women. The proposal follows approval of such a prohibition in France and Belgium earlier this month. The growing anti-burka sentiment spreading across Europe has already led to a ban on wearing the veil in some parts of Catalonia and Andalusia - the areas where Spain's Muslim immigrant population is concentrated.

FACE!

[A.J.]

Spain-next-in-line-to-ban-burka

Spain could become the third European country to ban the burka in public places on the grounds that it oppresses women. The proposal follows approval of such a prohibition in France and Belgium earlier this month. The growing anti-burka sentiment spreading across Europe has already led to a ban on wearing the veil in some parts of Catalonia and Andalusia - the areas where Spain's Muslim immigrant population is concentrated.

FACE!

Stupid Moops.

[StanUpshaw]

Sentate passes ban 246 to 1 (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/14/france.burqa.ban/?hpt=T1)

[hanso]

http://www.10pix.ru/img1/4419/2274512.jpg
Hubba hubba!

[CaptainBlowhole]

http://snappedshot.com/uploads/dmartyr/wendys_bag_burka_sm.jpg

[A.J.]

Sentate passes ban 246 to 1 (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/14/france.burqa.ban/?hpt=T1)

The law passed by a vote of 246 to 1, with about 100 abstentions coming essentially from left-leaning politicians.

What courageous, principled politicians.

[sailor]

I also love in that article how the ugly Americans are overwhelmingly against such laws. We really get a much worse rap than is deserved (in some areas).

[StanUpshaw]

What courageous, principled politicians.

Well, it's an election year and they don't want to give the Café Party any ammunition in the campaigns.

[hanso]

France bans public Muslim prayers


Muslims will be banned from praying outdoors in France from today in the latest move by officials to remove Islam from the public sphere.

The ban, announced by the government yesterday, infuriated French Muslim leaders, one of whom accused President Sarkozy's government of treating them like cattle.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/france-bans-public-muslim-prayers/story-e6frg6so-1226138737349

[Dude!]

Vive la France!

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Starvin


Anyone got freedom fries?

[hanso]

Had fish & chips last night. Or is that too euro for me to call it that?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The Muslims arent being put to death in France

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043306/Christian-pastor-faces-execution-Iran-refusing-renounce-faith.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[hanso]

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Battlestar-Islamica

[WRESTLINGFAN]

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Battlestar-Islamica

Or Arabian (k)night-Rider

[StanUpshaw]

HALal

[WRESTLINGFAN]

http://www.lolpic.se/pics/27664.jpg


For your blackberry

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SVMBzkTQc34/TFhwYhRmOwI/AAAAAAAASbs/s_QC-zN8JqA/s320/368-blackberry-burqa2%5B1%5D.jpg

[WRESTLINGFAN]

The muslims are getting their revenge by burning coptic churches in Egypt

[Dude!]

The muslims are getting their revenge by burning coptic churches in Egypt

the arab spring was
a great thing, right?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

the arab spring was
a great thing, right?

Add Al Qaeda to the mix in regards to Libyan rebels in which Obama started an illegal war.

Notice that his supporters say he was stopping a genocide. A couple hundred people killed in a civil war is not our business and is not genocide.

Barack the Neo-con.