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mahoney
07-12-2010, 03:25 PM
I suspect Ron thinks he is a decent guy. I do too, but not with the way he is with Fez these days. I'll preface this with a comment that I have had too many life experiences dealing with all types of people in my life including addicts. So I know what your immediate response will be to this. But Ron is so far from approaching helpful with Fez these days, justified or not. He simply is not. I know it isn't easy having a partner tap out like Fez has. But don't go home thinking you are a good guy Ronnie, or that you are approaching anything close to helpful these days. I get the frustration, believe me, with banking the slide upon sexual mis-identification, or being there for him during the heart scares, or any other things. And after all that, your partner gets worse. I don't have any advice to help with that. But to do things like "Hey Fez, I notice you are tapping over there" after some EFT therapy, or "Fez, tell me what you were thinking when you were tapping there", or "hey, c'mon, Fez prepared a little joke there on pet fish so let him have it"... I can't point fingers because I haven't a clue on any background, other than to suggest that Ron doesn't have Fez's best interests in mind any more. He simply doesn't.

dommer
07-12-2010, 03:46 PM
"Either tell a joke, or be a joke"
-Ron Bennington

Tenbatsuzen
07-12-2010, 03:46 PM
I suspect Ron thinks he is a decent guy. I do too, but not with the way he is with Fez these days. I'll preface this with a comment that I have had too many life experiences dealing with all types of people in my life including addicts. So I know what your immediate response will be to this. But Ron is so far from approaching helpful with Fez these days, justified or not. He simply is not. I know it isn't easy having a partner tap out like Fez has. But don't go home thinking you are a good guy Ronnie, or that you are approaching anything close to helpful these days. I get the frustration, believe me, with banking the slide upon sexual mis-identification, or being there for him during the heart scares, or any other things. And after all that, your partner gets worse. I don't have any advice to help with that. But to do things like "Hey Fez, I notice you are tapping over there" after some EFT therapy, or "Fez, tell me what you were thinking when you were tapping there", or "hey, c'mon, Fez prepared a little joke there on pet fish so let him have it"... I can't point fingers because I haven't a clue on any background, other than to suggest that Ron doesn't have Fez's best interests in mind any more. He simply doesn't.

As stated before, Ron takes a passive aggressive approach in getting rid of producers. He's taking the same deal on a much elevated scale with Fez.

Kevin
07-12-2010, 03:48 PM
"I think Adam's Apples are so sexy"
-Ron Bennington

.....

dommer
07-12-2010, 03:55 PM
.....

Ron has a secret?

Tenbatsuzen
07-12-2010, 03:56 PM
Ron has a secret?

he likes cocaine

midwestjeff
07-12-2010, 04:09 PM
I know what your immediate response will be to this.

http://rlv.zcache.com/mr_knowitall_tshirt-p2356716658469822393y72_210.jpg

mahoney
07-12-2010, 04:32 PM
As stated before, Ron takes a passive aggressive approach in getting rid of producers. He's taking the same deal on a much elevated scale with Fez.
Without his ability to hang up on me, I fantasize about the opportunity to undress him verbally. What an easy target.

Hottub
07-12-2010, 04:38 PM
Without his ability to hang up on me, I fantasize about the opportunity to undress him verbally. What an easy target.

866 Ron 0 Fez.
We'll be listening tomorrow.

smiler grogan
07-12-2010, 04:43 PM
he likes cocaine

A worse secret than Fez's.

Gerald
07-12-2010, 04:43 PM
Well, Fez being handled with kid gloves got him nowhere in his recovery, so maybe a healthy dose of tough love will snap him out of his existential funk.

Ron is in a tough spot, because he has to keep Fez pulled in to the conversation, in addition to maintaining the funny, and Fez is going to be adrift unless whatever is plaguing him that day becomes a focal point.

Hopefully, Ron's radical methods will lead to a breakthrough in psychotherapy for not just Fez, but mankind as a whole.

oPant
07-12-2010, 04:44 PM
As stated before, Ron takes a passive aggressive approach in getting rid of producers. He's taking the same deal on a much elevated scale with Fez.

This. He resents having to carry the show alone for a few years and he doesn't see Fez making much progress.

mahoney
07-12-2010, 04:58 PM
866 Ron 0 Fez.
We'll be listening tomorrow.

Yup, fair fight. Even i could come across witty that way. I am convinced he really isn't that good of a guy. He thinks he is, but he really isn't.

jimmyolsenblues
07-12-2010, 05:01 PM
Ron has carried Fez for a decade.
Ron is entitled to being angry and spiteful and hateful to fez for being such a dead weight.

stormy1065
07-12-2010, 05:06 PM
what makes a good guy.putting up with your partner who no matter what you try to do to help him says "i know ronnie"okay ronnie" but does absolutely nothing to change anything.ron has to hate going to work as much as fez these days.what do you want from the man.he knows as good as most you can't fix somebody who doesn't want it.but he got to keep the show going.:wallbash:

mahoney
07-12-2010, 05:09 PM
okay, you are probably right. But let's be honest about it. Fez - Ronnie isn't really your trusted friend any more - right or wrong. I can't stand the phoniness of it any longer.

brettmojo
07-12-2010, 05:13 PM
okay, you are probably right. But let's be honest about it. Fez - Ronnie isn't really your trusted friend any more - right or wrong. I can't stand the phoniness of it any longer.
Call the show up and tell Fez that. He'll probably get all worked up and accuse you of somehow stealing money from his checking account.

Chigworthy
07-12-2010, 05:36 PM
It seems like everyone's got this thing figured out.

STC-Dub
07-12-2010, 05:37 PM
It is almost like they are putting on some sort of show.

johnniehardrock
07-12-2010, 05:51 PM
Carneys and Rubes
Carneys and Rubes

mahoney
07-12-2010, 05:59 PM
It is almost like you are convinced this is just a show

TripleSkeet
07-12-2010, 06:11 PM
what makes a good guy.putting up with your partner who no matter what you try to do to help him says "i know ronnie"okay ronnie" but does absolutely nothing to change anything.ron has to hate going to work as much as fez these days.what do you want from the man.he knows as good as most you can't fix somebody who doesn't want it.but he got to keep the show going.:wallbash:

Anyone else notice this new writing style of not using spaces after the period? I think I like it.

Godzoox
07-12-2010, 07:50 PM
This just about sums it up...Would be better if the guys said "HEY FEZ" before they sock him...


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Penelope
07-12-2010, 09:04 PM
Hmmmm . . . I don't know that I buy that Fez is acting, or exaggerating his mental problems for show. I'm listening to today's show. If this is an act, then Fez is the best actor ever. He sounds like a real live maniac to me.
Ron's feelings on the matter are a mystery to me though . . .

Tenbatsuzen
07-12-2010, 09:15 PM
It seems like everyone's got this thing figured out.

Everyone BUT Fez. That's what makes it so maddening

chaza
07-12-2010, 09:36 PM
Everyone BUT Fez. That's what makes it so maddening

I really liked Batman voice Ronnie. Funniest shit on R&F in a while. I've been a R&F fan for about a decade, but have really disliked Fez on the show for quite a while. Ron tried to be supportive, but realized that Fez didn't want to change.

pillsaregood
07-12-2010, 09:40 PM
When Ron saw Fez not do the right thing with Dave he gave up on him.

And Ron did the right thing.

Fez is selfish. And I don't think he understands that the fans are on his ass everyday because they know he's not a good person at his core. The fans would not take this stance with Dave, Ron or Pepper if they were having similar problems.

Fez has had multiple times in the past where he has shit on callers or made crass jokes at the expense of people and it's coming back to haunt him now. The worst thing he could have done was try to shit on Casey and Dave about them having kids. You don't shit on a man's woman or children in that manner without expecting to be punched in the face whether it's literally or figureatively.

Fez will be off the air soon. Then we can all enjoy the show again.

Melk
07-12-2010, 11:38 PM
When Ron saw Fez not do the right thing with Dave he gave up on him.
Explain, please. I am eager to hear an expert speak.

tanless1
07-12-2010, 11:57 PM
okay, you are probably right. But let's be honest about it. Fez - Ronnie isn't really your trusted friend any more - right or wrong. I can't stand the phoniness of it any longer.

You looking to bond / find commenality/validate his victim hood ? Your a sick co- dependant fuck....your actions border on predatory..........

NewYorkDragons80
07-13-2010, 12:53 AM
Carneys and Rubes
Carneys and Rubes

I hope you're right. But I was really disappointed in the way Ronnie lashed out at a caller who attacked HTG *THE SAME DAY* he stood by while Fez got attacked the worst I've ever heard him get attacked.

NewYorkDragons80
07-13-2010, 12:56 AM
Fez is selfish. And I don't think he understands that the fans are on his ass everyday because they know he's not a good person at his core. The fans would not take this stance with Dave, Ron or Pepper if they were having similar problems.

Dave's had threatening mail sent to his house. Just today, he posted his son's health status on facebook and had at least two people recommend euthenasia. Nobody is above catching hate and vitriol from the listeners - not even Ron.

schabadoo
07-13-2010, 08:04 AM
Yup, fair fight. Even i could come across witty that way. I am convinced he really isn't that good of a guy. He thinks he is, but he really isn't.

Did I miss your call?

STC-Dub
07-13-2010, 01:51 PM
Explain, please. I am eager to hear an expert speak.

Same here. What did Fez not do?

Crispy123
07-13-2010, 02:05 PM
Ron is not a good person, that much is true, but not for the crap reasons you have given.

Ron and Fez are both bad people for putting on a show that so many people hate but just have to listen to and comment on.

Melk
07-13-2010, 02:32 PM
Ron and Fez are both bad people for putting on a show that so many people hate but just have to listen to and comment on.
That is true. But the show was so much less terrible on WJFK, WNEW and when East Side Dave was on the show.

I hope Fez gets better so we can hear complaints about him not crying anymore.

Crispy123
07-13-2010, 02:38 PM
Its been all downhill since WYNF. And Dave was only ever funny on O&A.

Slim Anus
07-13-2010, 02:42 PM
Although it can be irritating at times, I enjoy listening to Fez's descent into madness. Makes for good radio.

spoon
07-13-2010, 03:03 PM
You looking to bond / find commenality/validate his victim hood ? Your a sick co- dependant fuck....your actions border on predatory..........

Ha, are you insane or what?! Fez is supposed to be a friend with fucking mental issues and he picks and scrapes at his soul daily. You see the dif bt when Ron does have a use for someone, that's how he views friendship, it's that simple. HTG has a use, ESD had a use and he had to move on. Fez in Ron's mind no longer does and he either doesn't have the power or balls to make him move on too. I'm not claiming to be an expert here in any way, but you surely have a decent idea when you listen for a fucking decade. And if you think Fez did some dicky shit to Casey and ESD, where is your disdain for both Ron and HTG?! Oh that's right, Fez is the only one who actually puts his shit out there openly. Others act above it all and look down on people with extremely selfish ulterior motives.

spoon
07-13-2010, 03:05 PM
Dave's had threatening mail sent to his house. Just today, he posted his son's health status on facebook and had at least two people recommend euthenasia. Nobody is above catching hate and vitriol from the listeners - not even Ron.

That's just completely stupid but to be expected when you put everything in your life online. I think most people in the public eye have come to accept that there are nuts out there and either ignore it or need to become more private. Only an idiot would go to that level of hate, but we all know a lot of people out there fill that qualification.

disneyspy
07-13-2010, 03:09 PM
he likes cocaine

well who the hell doesnt?

Tenbatsuzen
07-13-2010, 03:19 PM
Explain, please. I am eager to hear an expert speak.

What the fuck do you want from me?

disneyspy
07-13-2010, 03:24 PM
Anyone else notice this new writing style of not using spaces after the period? I think I like it.

new?i've been doing it for two years here!

NewYorkDragons80
07-13-2010, 03:27 PM
That's just completely stupid but to be expected when you put everything in your life online. I think most people in the public eye have come to accept that there are nuts out there and either ignore it or need to become more private. Only an idiot would go to that level of hate, but we all know a lot of people out there fill that qualification.

So if I'm to understand you correctly, if you open part of your life to the public, you should expect threats to you and your family?

Tenbatsuzen
07-13-2010, 04:03 PM
So if I'm to understand you correctly, if you open part of your life to the public, you should expect threats to you and your family?

In a word, yes. The internet breeds anonymity and you cannot judge a person's sanity or threat level from just words on a screen.

You have to be very careful about what you do, say and put online. Dave is a polarizing personality and puts his life out there. While his openness can be commended, I cannot say the same for how wise it is.

hanso
07-13-2010, 04:10 PM
I'm growing tired of the whole throw Fez under the bus deal. I don't care for any mico reasoning of it. Just stop. Everyone.


Don't fuck with Fez.

samnyc
07-13-2010, 05:10 PM
I would like Fez off the show. He can do a solo hour after Ron's show. Working title "Getting Crazy with Fez Whatley." He can have an hour to talk about collecting his piss in bottles and toe nail clippings and experiences from the asylum. It would be fun to hear him go crazy. Just not four hours a day.

dommer
07-13-2010, 05:22 PM
I'm growing tired of the whole throw Fez under the bus deal. I don't care for any mico reasoning of it. Just stop. Everyone.


Don't fuck with Fez.

You should put together some crew or "posse" to protect Fez. Also, what's mico reasoning?

keithy_19
07-13-2010, 05:31 PM
Ron has carried Fez for a decade.
Ron is entitled to being angry and spiteful and hateful to fez for being such a dead weight.

You're time is a bit off there, sport.

Meataball23
07-13-2010, 07:05 PM
I would like Fez off the show. He can do a solo hour after Ron's show. Working title "Getting Crazy with Fez Whatley." He can have an hour to talk about collecting his piss in bottles and toe nail clippings and experiences from the asylum. It would be fun to hear him go crazy. Just not four hours a day.

I dont think Fez is capable of being on the air anymore, its flatly not healthy. The guy has a breakdown literally everyday when he goes to work...how is that allowed to continue?

That is completely on a different page for all the actual creative/entertainment reasons why I think he needs time off. Ron is a comedic genius and the greatest interviewer on the planet. I love the way he interacts w/ callers, guests, interns/producers, etc. In my opinion having Fez there completely takes away from all the creative and funny goodness.

Fez was brilliant and a driving force of the show for a long time; that time has since passed and its long overdue for him to walk away for a while.

He could go to Europe and live as a recluse in the south of france (my vote) or possibly go on a cattle drive (it worked for billy crystal).

Sloppy2nds
07-13-2010, 08:02 PM
If Fez leaves that job he's a fool.

pillsaregood
07-13-2010, 08:27 PM
Explain, please. I am eager to hear an expert speak.

Listen to the last hour of the first show after Dave left.

spoon
07-13-2010, 08:50 PM
Listen to the last hour of the first show after Dave left.

no

Melk
07-13-2010, 10:00 PM
Listen to the last hour of the first show after Dave left.
Explain your faulty hypothesis.

hanso
07-13-2010, 11:38 PM
If Fez leaves that job he's a fool.

The saboteurs who think he will by forcing his hand are the fools. And they are making the show shitty by pulling such BS.

NewYorkDragons80
07-14-2010, 01:24 AM
In a word, yes. The internet breeds anonymity and you cannot judge a person's sanity or threat level from just words on a screen.

You're wrong. Anyone who makes threats on a screen is just as dangerous as someone who makes threats in person. Just because someone is a vaguely public figure doesn't mean they deserve or "signed up for" having their family terrorized by anonymous members of the public.

instrument
07-14-2010, 02:09 AM
Can't wait till ron starts hitting him with a sock full of soap.

Melk
07-14-2010, 02:24 AM
You're wrong. Just because someone is a vaguely public figure doesn't mean they deserve or "signed up for" having their family terrorized by anonymous members of the public.
I agree.

I think the old-school Virus fan/pest mentality contributes to this picking on the hosts' families thing. The people who called Fez's family and prematurely revealed his secret or make comments about Dave's kids' mental ability or physical health.

instrument
07-14-2010, 02:31 AM
Explain, please. I am eager to hear an expert speak.

ron said himself that fez had the opportunity to "do the right thing with dave" believe it was either the first or second show after dave left.

TjM
07-14-2010, 02:43 AM
ron said himself that fez had the opportunity to "do the right thing with dave" believe it was either the first or second show after dave left.

Sure Ron has no problem fucking with other peoples money

instrument
07-14-2010, 03:59 AM
Sure Ron has no problem fucking with other peoples money

other peoples money?
sorry but any paycheck fez has been getting is out of ron's generosity.

Melk
07-14-2010, 04:30 AM
ron said himself that fez had the opportunity to "do the right thing with dave" believe it was either the first or second show after dave left.
And this means what?

I get the not offering Dave $2,000 unconditionally thing and I get the Fez "not pulling his weight" thing. I don't agree that Dave's leaving was Fez's fault.

That being said, I wouldn't've taken Ron, Dave or the listener's abuse to the degree that Fez has. If I had, I wouldn't've pursued anything in their interest with even a bit of passion.

thepaulo
07-14-2010, 04:53 AM
I agree.

I think the old-school Virus fan/pest mentality contributes to this picking on the hosts' families thing. The people who called Fez's family and prematurely revealed his secret or make comments about Dave's kids' mental ability or physical health.

We need to make a list of these people.
I want a list of these people.
I would like to see these people.

NewYorkDragons80
07-14-2010, 05:26 AM
I agree.

I think the old-school Virus fan/pest mentality contributes to this picking on the hosts' families thing. The people who called Fez's family and prematurely revealed his secret or make comments about Dave's kids' mental ability or physical health.

Of course I don't agree with those who called Fez's family, but when was this? Did they mention the family's reaction on the show? I'm only curious because 1) I've never heard of this, and 2) This should've been the end of "the secret" as we know it.

Recyclerz
07-14-2010, 05:44 AM
Remember when Anthony complimented R+F fans on how cool they were?

Yeah, those were the days...

Melk
07-14-2010, 06:37 AM
Of course I don't agree with those who called Fez's family, but when was this? Did they mention the family's reaction on the show? I'm only curious because 1) I've never heard of this, and 2) This should've been the end of "the secret" as we know it.
These issues were mentioned during an argument a few months back. Fez, during one of the two times he discussed giving Dave a monthly stipend in exchange for Casey "calling off" the fan attacks against him (because he suspected Dave and Casey were trying to ruin his life at that point), mentioned that he was just sick and tired of the people calling his home and harassing him. Someone also hijacked his checking account on two occasions. Dave responded saying that listeners were harassing him on the phone, too.

Ron, with Fez's permission, explained to Dave and the listeners that shortly before one of the times Fez went to Florida with the intention of telling his family the secret, that someone had called the Whatleys and asked told them that their son had a secret. The family called Fez and were not pleased with this news. Fez then felt the need to tell the family that the caller was full of it and that the secret was not true.

I am not entirely sure when this aired, but I am certain that other people remember this argument, too.

I have not read Dave's Twitter in a while, but I certainly would believe that some non-fans would write shitty comments about Dave's kids.

Melk
07-14-2010, 06:39 AM
We need to make a list of these people.
I want a list of these people.
I would like to see these people.
What do you suggest we do with said list, Paul?

thepaulo
07-14-2010, 06:42 AM
What do you suggest we do with said list, Paul?

"We" simply need to give "me" the list.
"Me" will take care of the rest.
(I would like addresses.)

TjM
07-14-2010, 06:44 AM
other peoples money?
sorry but any paycheck fez has been getting is out of ron's generosity.

No. It's gotten through a contract with S/XM.

NewYorkDragons80
07-14-2010, 06:57 AM
These issues were mentioned during an argument a few months back. Fez, during one of the two times he discussed giving Dave a monthly stipend in exchange for Casey "calling off" the fan attacks against him (because he suspected Dave and Casey were trying to ruin his life at that point), mentioned that he was just sick and tired of the people calling his home and harassing him. Someone also hijacked his checking account on two occasions. Dave responded saying that listeners were harassing him on the phone, too.

Ron, with Fez's permission, explained to Dave and the listeners that shortly before one of the times Fez went to Florida with the intention of telling his family the secret, that someone had called the Whatleys and asked told them that their son had a secret. The family called Fez and were not pleased with this news. Fez then felt the need to tell the family that the caller was full of it and that the secret was not true.

I am not entirely sure when this aired, but I am certain that other people remember this argument, too.

I have not read Dave's Twitter in a while, but I certainly would believe that some non-fans would write shitty comments about Dave's kids.

Ahh... that was around the August timeframe. Fucking assholes. "Mentally unstable" is thrown around commonly here, but to track down a host's family takes motivation, research, and follow-through all without a single crisis of conscience. I sincerely believe there's something terribly wrong with those responsible, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they have a skeleton or two in their hard drive.

TjM
07-14-2010, 07:06 AM
Ahh... that was around the August timeframe. Fucking assholes. "Mentally unstable" is thrown around commonly here, but to track down a host's family takes motivation, research, and follow-through all without a single crisis of conscience. I sincerely believe there's something terribly wrong with those responsible, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they have a skeleton or two in their hard drive.

I don't get that. Like the jack holes at WB who bought Dave's ex an inno to try to torpedo his relationship.

Melk
07-14-2010, 07:10 AM
I don't get that. Like the jack holes at WB who bought Dave's ex an inno to try to torpedo his relationship.
Well... I have to admit, that was pretty funny. I imagine that all the Wackbag guys had to do was go to an event and hand it to her. There probably wasn't a lot of stalking involved in that.

TjM
07-14-2010, 07:16 AM
Well... I have to admit, that was pretty funny. I imagine that all the Wackbag guys had to do was go to an event and hand it to her. There probably wasn't a lot of stalking involved in that.

It's still over a line though. He's a guy on a show you listen to. No need to get personally involved in his life. It's just creepy

hanso
07-14-2010, 02:10 PM
Remember when Anthony complimented R+F fans on how cool they were?

Yeah, those were the days...

I have thought on those lines lately. As a longtime fan of both shows. More so with O&A until recently. Back then I sided with Ant that R&F fans were a better crowd. It it did seem that way to me. But Im now having doubts.

spoon
07-14-2010, 04:00 PM
First off, there IS A difference bt someone talking shit online and someone making a personal threat face to face. I'm not defending either, but don't fool yourself in thinking twitter wars and message board wars are on a level of a face to face confrontation and witnessed threat. People often hide behind a screen name and talk out their ass in order to make a stupid point tied to an angry threat.

Second, ESD was a fan just like us for years. In fact, many of us know him for years from events and actually have hung out on the side. He was given the shot by both Ron and Fez to become an addition to the show, and that can't be forgotten. To act as if everyone has come from the same background and past is just as stupid as someone saying Fez should be fine bc Ron has come back from his demons. Sorry, Fez's anger is just misdirected in my mind. He's hurt and hasn't come clean about it just yet. It'll happen someday, but not likely on the air bc anyone who doesn't add to Ron's piling on/passive aggressive systematic breakdown of Fez simply won't get through/on air.

Tenbatsuzen
07-14-2010, 04:28 PM
You're wrong. Anyone who makes threats on a screen is just as dangerous as someone who makes threats in person. Just because someone is a vaguely public figure doesn't mean they deserve or "signed up for" having their family terrorized by anonymous members of the public.

You completely mis-read and missed the point of what I was trying to say.

spoon
07-14-2010, 04:56 PM
You're wrong. Anyone who makes threats on a screen is just as dangerous as someone who makes threats in person. Just because someone is a vaguely public figure doesn't mean they deserve or "signed up for" having their family terrorized by anonymous members of the public.

You completely mis-read and missed the point of what I was trying to say.

Yah he did but seemingly on purpose. Nobody ever said they deserved it at any point. It's just part of the package and you have to know it, especially when you put as much out there as they both do (show based and elsewhere on the net).

Hottub
07-14-2010, 06:08 PM
:wallbash::wallbash:

spoon
07-14-2010, 06:19 PM
:smoke:

NewYorkDragons80
07-15-2010, 12:35 AM
You completely mis-read and missed the point of what I was trying to say.

I regret using the word "deserve" if you saw it as me suggesting you're in any way pleased to see it happen. However, the impression I got from your message was that by being an entertainer, he has brought attention, and consequently, unwelcome attention on himself and he should accept that as part of his career. Is that a misinterpretation on my part?

Rawkus
07-18-2010, 12:28 AM
fez will never leave the show on his own, what would he do without it? As for ron being passive aggressive on air with him, what do you expect from the guy? I can't even imagine what the show would be like if every time fez got upset ron handled him with kid gloves. How boring would that shit be on air?

I still love the show because ronnie is a genius. I try to get new people to listen to the show but goddamn it's difficult these days. It's hard for me to explain to them why the cohost keeps crying or not saying anything or reading written bits that are just not that funny. I hope fez either gets it together or leaves

hanso
07-18-2010, 10:01 AM
Well this is where I differ on this. When Fez reads or does written bits they are not much different than all other radio shows. They may not be fall down funny, but most other radio is not also. However they are clever and witty.

It seems to me when he gets flack over this (just doing his part) it can make him emotional or go into crying fits. Which he now gets over much faster.

Call it kid gloves if you will. But no one should catch hell over and over. For doing what is done on most other shows.

My local show (Paul and Young Ron) plays "the platypus song" when the co host misspeaks. Not openly berates him.(as well as the callers)

And they do copy things from Ron and Fez. As it is a great show. They also copy from Opie and Anthony.

hanso
07-18-2010, 10:38 AM
This thread is about to be dissected like a frog.

helterskeletor
07-18-2010, 01:57 PM
I suspect Ron thinks he is a decent guy. I do too, but not with the way he is with Fez these days. I'll preface this with a comment that I have had too many life experiences dealing with all types of people in my life including addicts. So I know what your immediate response will be to this. But Ron is so far from approaching helpful with Fez these days, justified or not. He simply is not. I know it isn't easy having a partner tap out like Fez has. But don't go home thinking you are a good guy Ronnie, or that you are approaching anything close to helpful these days. I get the frustration, believe me, with banking the slide upon sexual mis-identification, or being there for him during the heart scares, or any other things. And after all that, your partner gets worse. I don't have any advice to help with that. But to do things like "Hey Fez, I notice you are tapping over there" after some EFT therapy, or "Fez, tell me what you were thinking when you were tapping there", or "hey, c'mon, Fez prepared a little joke there on pet fish so let him have it"... I can't point fingers because I haven't a clue on any background, other than to suggest that Ron doesn't have Fez's best interests in mind any more. He simply doesn't.

Cry about it then, fairy. He's trying to put on a god damned radio show.

spoon
07-18-2010, 02:07 PM
Cry about it then, fairy. He's trying to put on a god damned radio show.

You mean like you in every thread possible talking about Fez?! Just wondering.

RENFIELD
07-18-2010, 07:11 PM
ron's a master manipulator... part of his charm...

but for fez?

totally bamboozled...
just like 'scottie the hottie'... work the rube

ron could hold Fez's head underwater for 3 minutes
and have Fez than him for saving him from drowning
after he pulls Fez's head out of the water...


everyone sees it.. but fez...

i miss east side dave... the show has it's moments
but they were more consistent before...
and who do you converse with for... music, movies, or sports ?
alot of weapons out of Ron's arsenal..

StanUpshaw
07-18-2010, 07:50 PM
I like it when every once in awhile Ron opens the door to see if Fez will call him out on the way he treats him, and for just a second it's like Captain Kirk just proposed a logical paradox and he almost fries his circuitry, but then Fez recovers and uses some line you usually only hear from a battered wife on Law & Order.

helterskeletor
07-21-2010, 05:57 PM
You mean like you in every thread possible talking about Fez?! Just wondering.

Yes. That is exactly what I mean. Except for the part about trying to put on a radio show. Fez isn't bothering with that. Hence the bitching. You know, because it's a radio show.