Where Will Lebron James End Up?

[Suspect Chin]

Chicago, Cleveland, Miami, New York, New Jersey, elsewhere?

[TheGameHHH]

He's going to the Clippers to play with Baron Davis and Blake Griffen (if he doesn't somehow die this offseason), how can you pass that up?

[Suspect Chin]

With Bosh and Wade committed to Miami, I think Lebron goes south as well. He is feeling the pressure to get a ring and legitimize his career and will take the pay cut to almost guarantee a championship.

[Snoogans]

i voted other. I think prokerov is gonna sign him to play for CSKA Moskow or whatever the fuck they are called

[Snoogans]

With Bosh and Wade committed to Miami, I think Lebron goes south as well. .

we all know the brothas dont go south

[Suspect Chin]

i voted other. I think prokerov is gonna sign him to play for CSKA Moskow or whatever the fuck they are called

we all know the brothas dont go south

No fucking way. I don't think he is that worried about the money. He wants the ring. South Beach is the perfect place for his image. Look at all the bullshit with him being photographed with the Yankees hat on. He loves being in the media.

[Snoogans]

No fucking way. I don't think he is that worried about the money. He wants the ring. South Beach is the perfect place for his image. Look at all the bullshit with him being photographed with the Yankees hat on. He loves being in the media.

its a joke fool. damn


i think he is goin to miami for real. In fact, i just got a mobile text alert from espn sayin at 10pm he flew from westchester and is on his way to miami to meet with Pat Riley

[STC-Dub]

He is a free agent? I had not heard that.

[Suspect Chin]

its a joke fool. damn

I take this shit very seriously.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I want to see him put the Brooklyn Nets on the map

[epo]

I hope he goes to Cleveland and repairs his friendship with Delonte West.

Either that or I don't give a shit.

[Suspect Chin]

I hope he goes to Cleveland and repairs his friendship with Delonte West.

Either that or I don't give a shit.

So Lebron has a red headed little brother on the way, big deal.

[epo]

So Lebron has a red headed little brother on the way, big deal.

A ginger? That's the worst thing you can say about a little brother or a teammate.

[Suspect Chin]

That's the worst thing you can say about a little brother or a teammate.

No one called Delonte West or little Delbron James gay.

[epo]

No one called Delonte West or little Delbron James gay.

We all know that the Bible can solve the ghey, whereas nothing solves being a ginger.

[Suspect Chin]

We all know that the Bible can solve the ghey, whereas nothing solves being a ginger.

I guess you're right. You can dye the red hair but you can never hide the freckles.

[KnoxHarrington]

Deadspin's article on this whole LeBron bullshit, with the beautiful title "LeBron James Is a Cocksucker", is fucking classic.

It doesn't matter where he opts to go. If he goes to Chicago, he's a cocksucker. If he goes to Miami, he's a goddamn cocksucker. Even if he goes back to Cleveland, he's a goddamn cocksucker. He's a self-aggrandizing sack of shit, and ESPN is a bunch of pussy-whipped enablers for giving him a free hour of airtime tomorrow night and inevitably using 55 minutes of it to let Stu Scott give him a rimjob.

Look at what Kevin Durant did today He signed an extension well before he could have filed for free agency, announced the signing, and then went back about his business. He didn't need all this dog-and-pony show bullshit. James does, and that means he's a dipshit. People have been kissing this man's ass SINCE FUCKING MIDDLE SCHOOL, and he still needs this hourlong AFI tribute special? Bullshit. BULLSHIT.

More here: http://deadspin.com/5581889/lebron-james-is-a-cocksucker

[Mitch&Murray]

Report on PTI said The Decision show will take place from Boys and Girls club in Greenwich CT. (20 minutes outside of NYC for those of you not from around here).

[Barnaby Jones]

All you fools are wrong! LeBron is coming to the Clippers, LA's REAL basketball team! Clippers 4 life, baaaaaaaybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

[keithy_19]

All you fools are wrong! LeBron is coming to the Clippers, LA's REAL basketball team! Clippers 4 life, baaaaaaaybeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

Just when I thought I couldn't like you less, you prove me wrong.:happy:

[Kevin]

its a joke fool. damn


i think he is goin to miami for real. In fact, i just got a mobile text alert from espn sayin at 10pm he flew from westchester and is on his way to miami to meet with Pat Riley

Turns out Rick Bucher is a fucking idiot.

The him flying to Miami rumor has been debunked everywhere by everyone.

It was taken down within minutes on ESPN News.

[Barnaby Jones]

Just when I thought I couldn't like you less, you prove me wrong.:happy:

Go slobber on Tenbatz's shrivelled, diseased dong some more!

[TripleSkeet]

If theres a God in heaven this piece of shit will trip and shatter his ankle just as hes walking onto the stage to announce his decision.

[Snoogans]

I dont understand why the guy is a piece of shit? It isnt him thats forcing everyone to report every little fuckin thing. He is just meeting with teams. The announcing your decision on TV thing seems weird but the money is going to a good place. How is it any different than when some HS football prospect lays all the hats out on the table and then picks one to make his choice during some big press conference?

We all fuckin know if we were in that position we would be doin the same fuckin shit

[TripleSkeet]

I dont understand why the guy is a piece of shit? It isnt him thats forcing everyone to report every little fuckin thing. He is just meeting with teams. The announcing your decision on TV thing seems weird but the money is going to a good place. How is it any different than when some HS football prospect lays all the hats out on the table and then picks one to make his choice during some big press conference?

We all fuckin know if we were in that position we would be doin the same fuckin shit

Oh I dont give ESPN a pass either. He just rubs me the wrong way. People have been kissing your ass since middle school, they bow to you even though you have won NOTHING, yet you cant even be bothered to get on a plane to meet a GM to talk a deal? They have to come to you? Then you have to have an hour long tv show to announce your deal?

I guess its no different then a high schooler doing that, although Ive never seen it on ESPN so I dont know. But it doesnt make it right. The money going to charity is a cheap fuck move to keep people from criticizing it. (Oh look, its going to charity, you cant badmouth that) Fuck him.

I hope he goes to New York and never wins dick just like Patrick Ewing.

[Barnaby Jones]

Better than going to Philly!

[keithy_19]

I heard from an inside source that he's going to the Timberwolves.

[hanso]

With Bosh and Wade committed to Miami, I think Lebron goes south as well. He is feeling the pressure to get a ring and legitimize his career and will take the pay cut to almost guarantee a championship.

I heard he went down there last night to have a meal with the two.

[hanso]

With Bosh and Wade committed to Miami, I think Lebron goes south as well. He is feeling the pressure to get a ring and legitimize his career and will take the pay cut to almost guarantee a championship.

I heard he went down there last night to have a meal with the two.

The money from the championship will off set the cut.

[El Mudo]

I hope he goes right over a cliff.

Fuck that guy.

[kdubya]

Come on, we all know the Yankees are gonna get him

[A.J.]

First the Jets then the Vikings.

[razorboy]

I hope he goes right over a cliff.

So back to Cleveland?

[KnoxHarrington]

Well, whaddya know: ESPN is spoiling their dog & pony show by reporting LeBron James will be signing with Miami.

Of course, I'm suspicious enough of ESPN to think a report will be coming out later that he's signing with the Knicks, and then a few hours after that a report will come out that he's staying in Cleveland.

Oh Jesus fuck,, Dan LeBetard is playing his usual role of Defender Of The Poor Downtrodden Athlete for LeBron, saying "This show he's putting winning over everything else."

I hope the Heat miss the playoffs next year. Fuck 'em

[Kevin]

He isn't going to Miami.

ESPN is trying to build supspense to stop the Knicks momentum that was building after the venue was annouced yesturday.

[A.J.]

Wherever he ends up, I hope he never makes it to the Finals. That's what you get for your ego putting us through all of this shit.

[Kevin]

Wherever he ends up, I hope he never makes it to the Finals. That's what you get for your ego putting us through all of this shit.

You guys are getting close to Jermain Oneal..

Comment?

[A.J.]

You guys are getting close to Jermain Oneal..

Comment?

You mean Shaq?

My comment: "Why?"

[TripleSkeet]

Better than going to Philly!

I couldnt care less if the Sixers got him or not. I dont give a shit about basketball. Im just annoyed over all this bullshit over an athlete that hasnt won shit. I hate Kobe Bryant but right now Lebron couldnt lace his fucking sneakers.

[Snoogans]

Wherever he ends up, I hope he never makes it to the Finals. That's what you get for your ego putting us through all of this shit.

i agree with this unless he picks the knicks

[JimBeam]

I'm so disappointed to see so many guys on here whose opinions I respect discussing this topic.

I didn't even wanna come in the thread and read it but hoped that after I did it was all pooping on James.

I hate basketball to begin w/ so that doesn't help but I was so sick of ESPN for all of the nonsense they're supporting around this.

Why they are giving this jerkoff his own show is beyond me.

They hype they are running themselves is awful.

There was some kinda comment this morning by that idiot Reescha Canidate saying " This is the most anticipated event in NBA history " or some such nonsense.

Talk about it made it's way into highlights of a Nationals/Padres game !!!!

I had the misfortune of tuning into Mike & Mike a few times this morning and it seemed like they dedicated their whole show to the issue today.

But to stay within the thread topic after that rant I'll echo what a few said and I hope this guy never wins a thing.

Then he can explain to his illegitimate children why he calls himself the king despite never having won anything.

[brettmojo]

brettmojo (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/member.php?u=38447), Dan 'Hampton (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/member.php?u=25944), hammersavage (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/member.php?u=1108), PigShitIrish (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/member.php?u=26757), Suspect Chin (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/member.php?u=35550)


Winners.

[Crispy123]

This is easy, Celebrity Rehab. Lock it up.

[Snoogans]

Winners.

you sure? nothing is announced yet. I knew everyone was sayin Miami when I voted other

[brettmojo]

you sure? nothing is announced yet. I knew everyone was sayin Miami when I voted other
Money in the bank.

[hammersavage]

Money in the bank.

i hope you are so wrong. ugh

[Kevin]

He's not going to Miami idiots.

He is just fucking with everybody.

[Snoogans]

i think its miami too. cause all 3 are ass fuckin faggots. But im not listenin to what any of these jerkoffs say

[KnoxHarrington]

He's not going to Miami idiots.

He is just fucking with everybody.

ESPN is hammering the "We don't actually know he's going to Miami!" angle so hard it convinces me more and more he's going to Miami.

[hammersavage]

No goddammit. No

[Kevin]

ESPN is hammering the "We don't actually know he's going to Miami!" angle so hard it convinces me more and more he's going to Miami.



You obviously have not been listening to ESPN Radio then..

[KnoxHarrington]

You obviously have not been listening to ESPN Radio then..

Why would I start now?

[Barnaby Jones]

I couldnt care less if the Sixers got him or not. I dont give a shit about basketball. Im just annoyed over all this bullshit over an athlete that hasnt won shit. I hate Kobe Bryant but right now Lebron couldnt lace his fucking sneakers.

This is nuts! You think athletes aren't impressive until their team have won a championship? It's clear to anyone with a basic grasp of basketball that he's amazingly talented!

He's coming to the Clippers and we're stomping all over the the rest of the country, bitches! LA, WHUT-WHUT!!!

[TheGameHHH]

Send Swish!!!!

[Contra]

This is nuts! You think athletes aren't impressive until their team have won a championship? It's clear to anyone with a basic grasp of basketball that he's amazingly talented!

He's coming to the Clippers and we're stomping all over the the rest of the country, bitches! LA, WHUT-WHUT!!!

Its not that he is without talent, but there are athletes, and there are champions, and there is a difference! If there wasn't then what's the fucking point? Lebron has had the undeserved attitude of a champion since he entered the league, and I've hated him for thinking he is something he is not as a player and a person since.

In the immortal words of James Norton, "He stinks and I don't like him!"

[Barnaby Jones]

The best of the best always have that attitude! What kind of humble fucking pansies do you want playing our sports?!?!?

[Contra]

The best of the best always have that attitude! What kind of humble fucking pansies do you want playing our sports?!?!?
See now you say best of the best. I say best of the best? Where's his ring?

[hammersavage]

See now you say best of the best. I say best of the best? Where's his ring?

he's 25 still

[KnoxHarrington]

he's 25 still

If I wasn't such a lazy piece of shit today, I'd go back and find what was being said about Michael Jordan at this same stage in his career. Many of these knocks on LeBron sound very much like knocks on Jordan: "He's selfish! He's egotistical! He isn't a leader!"

And I think Jordan won a ring or two.

[Tall_James]

Retards. All retards. (http://video.ap.org/?f=WBZFM&pid=R9msqOsYZ2TmkWttgWjBgV72_tYSs_Oh)

[brettmojo]

ESPN is hammering the "We don't actually know he's going to Miami!" angle so hard it convinces me more and more he's going to Miami.
Only cause' they want people to watch this bullshit at 9.

[Contra]

he's 25 still


That's kind of my point

[TripleSkeet]

This is nuts! You think athletes aren't impressive until their team have won a championship? It's clear to anyone with a basic grasp of basketball that he's amazingly talented!

He's coming to the Clippers and we're stomping all over the the rest of the country, bitches! LA, WHUT-WHUT!!!

You cant call yourself the best if you dont have a ring. I dont give a fuck what kind of goofy logic you try to use to defend this, THE TROPHY IS THE PROOF YOU ARE THE BEST.

Why the fuck should I care thats hes talented? 1/2 the NBA is talented. Being talented doesnt make you a champion.

Until this douchebag wins a title he will never be more then Captain Hype in my eyes.

[Barnaby Jones]

That's kind of my point

But the incredible basketball is so obvious! Just because he hasn't won a championship yet doesn't he hasn't obviously been amazing as a player! The bottom line is you'll have great players in all the major sports who never win it all! Let's use Philly as an example since I brought them up; Allen Iverson is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Are we supposed to ignore that because he never won a ring?

[TripleSkeet]

If I wasn't such a lazy piece of shit today, I'd go back and find what was being said about Michael Jordan at this same stage in his career. Many of these knocks on LeBron sound very much like knocks on Jordan: "He's selfish! He's egotistical! He isn't a leader!"

And I think Jordan won a ring or two.

Know what I said about Jordan before he won his first titles? "Hes nothing until hes won a ring. Dont even mention his fucking name with Larry Bird and Magic Johnsons because right now all he is is the Pistons bitch."

Not sure he was 25 at the time though.

I dont care what the sport is, to be the best, you HAVE to have won a championship. Being the best in not just being the most talented guy on the field. Its about making your team better, leading them, and making them believe enough to win a championship. Thats why I dont care what argument you try to use, you can NEVER call guys like Dan Marino, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley or Ken Griffey Jr. the best. Period.

[TripleSkeet]

But the incredible basketball is so obvious! Just because he hasn't won a championship yet doesn't he hasn't obviously been amazing as a player! The bottom line is you'll have great players in all the major sports who never win it all! Let's use Philly as an example since I brought them up; Allen Iverson is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Are we supposed to ignore that because he never won a ring?

You can call him that, but you can never call him THE BEST EVER.

[Contra]

But the incredible basketball is so obvious! Just because he hasn't won a championship yet doesn't he hasn't obviously been amazing as a player! The bottom line is you'll have great players in all the major sports who never win it all! Let's use Philly as an example since I brought them up; Allen Iverson is one of the greatest basketball players of all time. Are we supposed to ignore that because he never won a ring?

Yes, oh God I wish I could forget Allen Iverson. His first couple years in the league he couldn't even dribble!

[Barnaby Jones]

You can call him that, but you can never call him THE BEST EVER.

This till doesn't make any sense! What if someone only wins one championship but still put up season after season of amazing performances? What if they only have two? What is the magic number where they are THE BEST EVER?!?

Championships are a team product! Even the very best can't be an entire team!

[TripleSkeet]

This till doesn't make any sense! What if someone only wins one championship but still put up season after season of amazing performances? What if they only have two? What is the magic number where they are THE BEST EVER?!?

Championships are a team product! Even the very best can't be an entire team!

1 ring. Thats the magic number. Without one you can never call yourself the best. Sorry

[Contra]

This till doesn't make any sense! What if someone only wins one championship but still put up season after season of amazing performances? What if they only have two? What is the magic number where they are THE BEST EVER?!?

Championships are a team product! Even the very best can't be an entire team!


Exactly, being the best is being superior AND being able to motivate your team to go all the way.
http://www.ionlinephilippines.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Michael-Jordan.jpg

This, lebron is not, yet anyway

[sailor]

I heard after signing Wade and bosh they had almost no money to fill out the rest of their roster. Now they have money?

Also, basketball is much more about the individual than baseball. I agree with the championship argument in the NBA. But not in MLB. Fuck, just look at Carlton in 72 for proof of that.

[Contra]

I heard after signing Wade and bosh they had almost no money to fill out the rest of their roster. Now they have money?

Also, basketball is much more about the individual than baseball. I agree with the championship argument in the NBA. But not in MLB.

MLB gets no pass

[Barnaby Jones]

Exactly, being the best is being superior AND being able to motivate your team to go all the way.
http://www.ionlinephilippines.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Michael-Jordan.jpg

This, lebron is not, yet anyway

Jordan "motivated" his teams to win? Boy, it's good thing it didn't take him too long to figure out how to motivate them! Hahahahahahahaah!

The whole "1 ring means you can be the best" is silly! Is Eli Manning a better QB than my man Marino?!?!?! Of course not!

[Snoogans]

Jordan "motivated" his teams to win? Boy, it's good thing it didn't take him too long to figure out how to motivate them! Hahahahahahahaah!

The whole "1 ring means you can be the best" is silly! Is Eli Manning a better QB than my man Marino?!?!?! Of course not!

absolutely yes he is. Dan woulda had 3 rings if he wasnt such a selfish cock and handed off once in awhile

[Barnaby Jones]

You can't slander one of the greatest QB's of all time like that! I hope he challenges you to a duel!

[Snoogans]

You can't slander one of the greatest QB's of all time like that! I hope he challenges you to a duel!

I never said anything bad about Eli Manning. How dare you accuse me of falsehoods

[Barnaby Jones]

I never said anything bad about Eli Manning. How dare you accuse me of falsehoods

Stop trying to make this about Manning! We're talking about greats here! It's a crime that Mr. Marino was never on a team that could get him the ring he so richly deserved!

[Snoogans]

Stop trying to make this about Manning! We're talking about greats here! It's a crime that Mr. Marino was never on a team that could get him the ring he so richly deserved!

if its a crime, Dan Marino is guilty. The teams were plenty good until Marino checked out of every run cause he wanted to pad his stats.

[zildjian361]

Dont care

[TripleSkeet]

Jordan "motivated" his teams to win? Boy, it's good thing it didn't take him too long to figure out how to motivate them! Hahahahahahahaah!

The whole "1 ring means you can be the best" is silly! Is Eli Manning a better QB than my man Marino?!?!?! Of course not!

Your missing the point. Im not saying the ring is the be all end all. I wouldnt say Trent Dilfer was better then Dan Marino. But when comparing him with someone whose stats are comparable to his...like Peyton Manning or John Elway, you cant put Marino over them because he has no ring. I dont give a fuck what sport you are in, you cant be the best ever if you cant even say you were the best for one year.

And dont even bring Joe Cool into this. Marino couldnt even hold his jock.

[Barnaby Jones]

Your missing the point. Im not saying the ring is the be all end all. I wouldnt say Trent Dilfer was better then Dan Marino. But when comparing him with someone whose stats are comparable to his...like Peyton Manning or John Elway, you cant put Marino over them because he has no ring. I dont give a fuck what sport you are in, you cant be the best ever if you cant even say you were the best for one year.

And dont even bring Joe Cool into this. Marino couldnt even hold his jock.

You're talking about championships like they're individual accomplishments!

[spoon]

Oh I dont give ESPN a pass either. He just rubs me the wrong way. People have been kissing your ass since middle school, they bow to you even though you have won NOTHING, yet you cant even be bothered to get on a plane to meet a GM to talk a deal? They have to come to you? Then you have to have an hour long tv show to announce your deal?

I guess its no different then a high schooler doing that, although Ive never seen it on ESPN so I dont know. But it doesnt make it right. The money going to charity is a cheap fuck move to keep people from criticizing it. (Oh look, its going to charity, you cant badmouth that) Fuck him.

I hope he goes to New York and never wins dick just like Patrick Ewing.

No way Shaun, this is unprecedented. It's so off putting it isn't even funny.

[TripleSkeet]

You're talking about championships like they're individual accomplishments!

Cant be the best without one. All you can be is great. Anyone that was ever an athlete will tell you the same thing.

[TripleSkeet]

No way Shaun, this is unprecedented. It's so off putting it isn't even funny.

Whos Shaun?

[spoon]

ESPN is hammering the "We don't actually know he's going to Miami!" angle so hard it convinces me more and more he's going to Miami.

yep, they just want all you assholes to tune in bc they ruined their own over-hyped GARBAGE!

:wallbash:

[spoon]

This till doesn't make any sense! What if someone only wins one championship but still put up season after season of amazing performances? What if they only have two? What is the magic number where they are THE BEST EVER?!?

Championships are a team product! Even the very best can't be an entire team!

Yah! Dan Fouts = best qb ever!!!! :unsure: and announcer!?

[spoon]

I heard after signing Wade and bosh they had almost no money to fill out the rest of their roster. Now they have money?

Also, basketball is much more about the individual than baseball. I agree with the championship argument in the NBA. But not in MLB. Fuck, just look at Carlton in 72 for proof of that.

MLB gets no pass

Sailor is right. If any sport's players should get one, it's MLB. Now if you were there and SUCKED it up as some clearly have, that hurts any claims at all. If you employ that in MLB, douches that flock to perennial playoff teams like the yanks get WAY TOO much credit. Eg. every fucking pitcher the yanks put on the mound minus petitte and mo.

[spoon]

Whos Shaun?

snoogans

[TripleSkeet]

You're talking about championships like they're individual accomplishments!

Youre talking about indiviual accomplishments like they are important. Heres a fun fact for you THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT IN ANY SPORT IS THE W. Anyone thats played organized sports will tell you one of the first things they teach you is "Indiviual accomplishments are worthless if you dont win."

And if any sport gets a pass on the championship thing, it would be baseball. But not completely. Guys who play great during the year but dissapear when their teams make the playoffs dont get off the hook as far as Im concerned.

[SKANE]

I can't believe I'm watching this shit. I'm a fn rube.

[Dudeman]

Clarance Beeks???
http://www.movieactors.com/freezes1/TradingPlaces22.jpeg

[Hottub]

I hope he announces his retirement, then wiggles his dick at the camera.

[TripleSkeet]

I refuse to give this ass my ratings. Ill just wait to hear it on Facebook.

[badorties]

I can't believe I'm watching this shit. I'm a fn rube.

i can't, i refuse to give in to this nonsense ... unless it's the knicks and i;ll catch the replay

[epo]

I thought this was GUARANTEED to be in the first 10 minutes.

I'm shocked they bait and switched!

[KnoxHarrington]

Seriously, they haven't said yet?

What a load of shit.

[brettmojo]

This is so douche chill inducing... Yet I can't look away.

[razorboy]

He isn't going to Miami.

ESPN is trying to build supspense to stop the Knicks momentum that was building after the venue was annouced yesturday.

Good call.

[brettmojo]

HA! Five bucks are mine!

[SKANE]

Cue Pat Riley in 3...2....1...

[Kevin]

Good call.

Fuck you douchebag

Get off my nuts and stop following my posts

As for Bron


COWARD

that is all.

[underdog]

Cue Pat Riley in 3...2....1...

Seriously. I wonder what kind of "family issue" Erik Spoelstra is going to suddenly have and have to step down as coach.

[Barnaby Jones]

Youre talking about indiviual accomplishments like they are important. Heres a fun fact for you THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT IN ANY SPORT IS THE W. Anyone thats played organized sports will tell you one of the first things they teach you is "Indiviual accomplishments are worthless if you dont win."

And if any sport gets a pass on the championship thing, it would be baseball. But not completely. Guys who play great during the year but dissapear when their teams make the playoffs dont get off the hook as far as Im concerned.

You're generalizing too much! Guys can be absolutely amazing, regular season and the playoffs, but if they're stuck on a bad team they can be fucked from winning it all! One person simply cannot make it happen by themselves! Someone can easily be one of the greatest of all time without having one it all!

[razorboy]

Fuck you douchebag

Get off my nuts and stop following my posts

As for Bron


COWARD

that is all.

So much hostility. Maybe you should take a vacation. Miami, perhaps?

[Suspect Chin]

With Bosh and Wade committed to Miami, I think Lebron goes south as well. He is feeling the pressure to get a ring and legitimize his career and will take the pay cut to almost guarantee a championship.

You heard it here first sons.

[Devo37]

i bet all my money on the Ottawa Senators :wallbash:

[SKANE]

Burn his Jersey Cleveland! Wow. Can't wait for him to go there next year. RIOTS!!!!

[epo]

Cleveland sports radio, right now. (http://radiotime.com/station/s_30315/WKNR_850.aspx)

[brettmojo]

Cleveland sports radio, right now. (http://radiotime.com/station/s_30315/WKNR_850.aspx)
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3606/nelson1xz1.jpg

[Jughead]

is he a bear??

[SKANE]

You can't blame the people of Cleveland. Free agents leave cities every year. They just don't hype it for a few months and announce it on an "ESPN Special". I can take or leave Basketball but this bullshit bugs me.

[Jayw]

It is going to be awesome when Kobe beats this new heat team to three-peet, next finals. I am so sick of hearing lebrun hype I am now rooting against him.

[TripleSkeet]

You're generalizing too much! Guys can be absolutely amazing, regular season and the playoffs, but if they're stuck on a bad team they can be fucked from winning it all! One person simply cannot make it happen by themselves! Someone can easily be one of the greatest of all time without having one it all!

No they cant. Tough shit.

[TripleSkeet]

Oh well, at least he wont have to keep hearing about Delonte West fucking his mom anymore.

[epo]

I wonder how Ohio views Delonte West.

[sailor]

butted heads going for that one, huh?

does anyone know if weather was mentioned as part of his decision?

[TheGameHHH]

this is awesome. what a heel turn tonight.

[brettmojo]

this is awesome. what a heel turn tonight.
O&A's Sam said it best on his twitter... Lebron James just super-kicked the city of Cleveland through the Barbershop window.

[Barnaby Jones]

No they cant. Tough shit.

Of COURSE THEY CAN! The end.

[TheGameHHH]

O&A's Sam said it best on his twitter... Lebron James just super-kicked the city of Cleveland through the Barbershop window.

i loved every second of everything that happened tonight, i couldnt have scripted this better

[brettmojo]

http://web13.twitpic.com/img/127004970-a9b8a349aa0fa608bae842843cc69d10.4c3689a8-full.jpg

[KnoxHarrington]

This is so stupid, on multiple layers:

1. Stringing the whole process out into this orgy of attention whoring, complete with a terrible hour-long special for the ultimate decision, just makes him look like a total douche who wanted to stick it to Cleveland. If he's going, it should heave been a more dignified, far more low-key departure. Especially since he's always made such a big deal about how awesome it is to be playing for his hometown.

2. The fact that Miami now has 3 max contracts on their payroll means that beyond the Big Three of LeBron, Bosh, and Wade, they're going to have a bunch of jabronis and scrubs on the team beyond that. That strikes me as one of those teams that kicks ass in the regular season, and then collapses quickly in the playoffs.

3. And here's the big one: even if he does get his ring, it's as much for what Bosh and Wade did as him. This is not his team. If he stays in Cleveland, or even goes to a team like Chicago or New York, that's his team. It's his show. In this situation, he's pretty much just signed on to help Dwayne Wade get another ring.

So he's basically turned himself into the most hated man in sports, the embodiment of the asshole athlete with an out-of-control ego, and he's landed in a situation where he might not win, and even if he does, he's the #2 guy.

Good job, "King" James.

[TheGameHHH]

This is so stupid, on multiple layers:

1. Stringing the whole process out into this orgy of attention whoring, complete with a terrible hour-long special for the ultimate decision, just makes him look like a total douche who wanted to stick it to Cleveland. If he's going, it should heave been a more dignified, far more low-key departure. Especially since he's always made such a big deal about how awesome it is to be playing for his hometown.

2. The fact that Miami now has 3 max contracts on their payroll means that beyond the Big Three of LeBron, Bosh, and Wade, they're going to have a bunch of jabronis and scrubs on the team beyond that. That strikes me as one of those teams that kicks ass in the regular season, and then collapses quickly in the playoffs.

3. And here's the big one: even if he does get his ring, it's as much for what Bosh and Wade did as him. This is not his team. If he stays in Cleveland, or even goes to a team like Chicago or New York, that's his team. It's his show. In this situation, he's pretty much just signed on to help Dwayne Wade get another ring.

So he's basically turned himself into the most hated man in sports, the embodiment of the asshole athlete with an out-of-control ego, and he's landed in a situation where he might not win, and even if he does, he's the #2 guy.

Good job, "King" James.

They aren't signing max deals.

And you really think Rose, Noah and Boozer wouldn't have helped him win his ring or rings if he went to Chicago and won?

[Pitdoc]

This is so stupid, on multiple layers:



So he's basically turned himself into the most hated man in sports, the embodiment of the asshole athlete with an out-of-control ego, and he's landed in a situation where he might not win, and even if he does, he's the #2 guy.

Good job, "King" James.



No , THAT would have beenif he went to NYC (Which I think he'll still do in a few years, when the Russian has a stadium built for him..Then you'll see the MAJOR asshole, as all you NYCers crown "King" James .He'll fuckin own the city, and act like it
.

[TripleSkeet]

Of COURSE THEY CAN! The end.

Name 1.

[KnoxHarrington]

They aren't signing max deals.

And you really think Rose, Noah and Boozer wouldn't have helped him win his ring or rings if he went to Chicago and won?

True, but that would still be his team; he'd be the clear leader. The Heat are going to be this three-headed monster, and he won't get credit for their success as completely or clearly as he would have anywhere else.

[Suspect Chin]

True, but that would still be his team; he'd be the clear leader. The Heat are going to be this three-headed monster, and he won't get credit for their success as completely or clearly as he would have anywhere else.

I agree. It will be like the current Celtics team.

[underdog]

This is so stupid, on multiple layers:

1. Stringing the whole process out into this orgy of attention whoring, complete with a terrible hour-long special for the ultimate decision, just makes him look like a total douche who wanted to stick it to Cleveland. If he's going, it should heave been a more dignified, far more low-key departure. Especially since he's always made such a big deal about how awesome it is to be playing for his hometown.

2. The fact that Miami now has 3 max contracts on their payroll means that beyond the Big Three of LeBron, Bosh, and Wade, they're going to have a bunch of jabronis and scrubs on the team beyond that. That strikes me as one of those teams that kicks ass in the regular season, and then collapses quickly in the playoffs.

3. And here's the big one: even if he does get his ring, it's as much for what Bosh and Wade did as him. This is not his team. If he stays in Cleveland, or even goes to a team like Chicago or New York, that's his team. It's his show. In this situation, he's pretty much just signed on to help Dwayne Wade get another ring.

So he's basically turned himself into the most hated man in sports, the embodiment of the asshole athlete with an out-of-control ego, and he's landed in a situation where he might not win, and even if he does, he's the #2 guy.

Good job, "King" James.

Bill Simmons brought up in his column today that in China during the olympics, Bosh, Wade, Lebron and Chris Paul all agreed to a pact to play together in the future. It's going to be even nuttier if Paul goes there in two years.

[joeyballsack]

Cavs owner guarantees a title before Lebron (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html)

[razorboy]

Cavs owner guarantees a title before Lebron (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html)

Dan Gilbert has been drinking.

[TheGameHHH]

Cavs owner guarantees a title before Lebron (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html)

I can't get enough of this, everything that has gone on tonight has been amazing. I hope for more of this in the coming days.

But he's smoking crack if he thinks Cleveland is gonna even sniff Miami's jock strap for the next 5 years.

[StanUpshaw]

I haven't been following this much at all, so I'm sure this has come up before...but if these free agents are meeting and deciding between themselves where they're going to sign...doesn't that amount to some sort of collusion or price fixing? Would it be tolerated if a handful of $100 mil companies in some other industry formed a little cartel like this?

[keithy_19]

The whole thing just seemed really gay to me.

If I were LeBron, I would want to be the face of a franchise while turning it into a contender.

Him signing with the Heat made me lose some respect for him. He's still a great player, but just pissed me off with how he handled the whole thing.

[K.C.]

Lakers are still better. Magic are still an extremely good team that will present matchup problems.

I'm going to wait and see how they fill out the roster before I proclaim them championship favorites. Right now they're not.

[keithy_19]

Lakers are still better. Magic are still an extremely good team that will present matchup problems.

I'm going to wait and see how they fill out the roster before I proclaim them championship favorites. Right now they're not.

It reminds me of the times the Yankees added the biggest free agents and nothing clicked. Same with the Rangers in the NHL.

[hammersavage]

Lakers are still better. Magic are still an extremely good team that will present matchup problems.

I'm going to wait and see how they fill out the roster before I proclaim them championship favorites. Right now they're not.

I'd so not yet too. They did have a sneaky good draft in my opinion. If they can move Beasley for something too since I guess he's not gonna work out.

[hammersavage]

whoops, Beasley is a TWolve. For a 2nd rounder. Jeez, his stock has sure fallen. I was dead wrong about him.

[Tenbatsuzen]

dear heat:

please trade rights to Desean Butler to a team who could use him

thx

[Snoogans]

It is going to be awesome when Kobe beats this new heat team to three-peet, next finals. I am so sick of hearing lebrun hype I am now rooting against him.

that might be the only thing that gets me to root for the Lakers in a final

[Snoogans]

They aren't signing max deals.

And you really think Rose, Noah and Boozer wouldn't have helped him win his ring or rings if he went to Chicago and won?

they are now. Heat just dumped beasley on minn for a 2nd rounder next year. They now have the money for 3

[kdubya]

Cavs owner guarantees a title before Lebron (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html)

That letter is amazing, talk about a dick move.

You think that owner would ever lose sleep over cutting a guy that wasn't helping them win? He got rid of a coach that helped them win just because he didn't get them to the finals his year, where was the loyalty then?

Truth is if LeBron was hurt, or lost a few step down the road he would have traded him away for someone that would have helped the team win.

Lebron wants to win a championship, and thinks this is the best move, so he made it. The same way owners and GMs make moves all the time to win. Owners buy and sell people like its nothing, but I guess they don't like being on the other side.

Gilbert is a dick and a soar loser. Fuck him and the Cavs

[foodcourtdruide]

It reminds me of the times the Yankees added the biggest free agents and nothing clicked. Same with the Rangers in the NHL.

Early 90's Mets. Real life is not fantasy sports, best talent doesn't always equal victories.

[Doctor Z]

Where is the Snoogans reaction video on YouTube?

[Snoogans]

Where is the Snoogans reaction video on YouTube?

tomorrow, its too late you yell

[TripleSkeet]

tomorrow, its too late you yell

Mom will get mad if you wake her huh?

;)

[Snoogans]

Mom will get mad if you wake her huh?

;)

actually the person in the next condo whose room is right next to mine is who gets pissed when I yell

[Doctor Z]

http://filmlinc.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/bigfan11.jpg

[sailor]

Early 90's Mets. Real life is not fantasy sports, best talent doesn't always equal victories.

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/150809/p1_malone_all.jpg

[TheGameHHH]

they are now. Heat just dumped beasley on minn for a 2nd rounder next year. They now have the money for 3

did you read somewhere that they are? last night during the whole interview after the annoucement LeBron kept saying, 'all three of us are taking less money so we can build a supporting cast, we aren't taking max deals'

[A.J.]

Now Art Modell has company.

[A.J.]

Seriously. I wonder what kind of "family issue" Erik Spoelstra is going to suddenly have and have to step down as coach.

Exactly.

that might be the only thing that gets me to root for the Lakers in a final

Not even this would cause me to root for the Lakers.

[OleBullNuts]

This is worse than Modell. Because of finances running the Stadium Corp., and the unwillingness of the city to build the Browns a new building too painted Art into a corner, unless he wanted to sell the team at a debillitating loss. The mayor and city council at the time are as if not more culpable than Modell for the team leaving.

What stings is that Lebron is a northeast Ohio kid, one of US, and he chose to humiliate a fanbase that loved him unconditionally on national TV(those poor impoverished street urchins of Greenwich. Where's pete gas?). The Indians losing free agents is what it is, but this is a big F.U. and kick in the balls to a very loyal fanbase.

[Fillmore Slim]

did you read somewhere that they are? last night during the whole interview after the annoucement LeBron kept saying, 'all three of us are taking less money so we can build a supporting cast, we aren't taking max deals'

Heat signed Mike Miller 5yr/30mil so it looks like the big three did take less money.

[hammersavage]

did you read somewhere that they are? last night during the whole interview after the annoucement LeBron kept saying, 'all three of us are taking less money so we can build a supporting cast, we aren't taking max deals'

Bron took like 5 for 96, about a million less per season. So a big sacrifice of 4 or 5 million. Not sure about the others.

[TripleSkeet]

This is worse than Modell. Because of finances running the Stadium Corp., and the unwillingness of the city to build the Browns a new building too painted Art into a corner, unless he wanted to sell the team at a debillitating loss. The mayor and city council at the time are as if not more culpable than Modell for the team leaving.

What stings is that Lebron is a northeast Ohio kid, one of US, and he chose to humiliate a fanbase that loved him unconditionally on national TV(those poor impoverished street urchins of Greenwich. Where's pete gas?). The Indians losing free agents is what it is, but this is a big F.U. and kick in the balls to a very loyal fanbase.

This made me :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[spoon]

The whole thing just seemed really gay to me.

If I were LeBron, I would want to be the face of a franchise while turning it into a contender.

Him signing with the Heat made me lose some respect for him. He's still a great player, but just pissed me off with how he handled the whole thing.

you mean like the last 7 years in Cleveland? I'm glad he did what he did. Fuck all these whiny fucking ny fans too who thinks he owes a team he never played on, got drafted by and are used to buying fucking teams. Now they cry when it happens somewhere else, a place where at least a guy like Wade made it happen and was the core to start with. At least they can claim the Jeter clause when they win the championship like yank fans.

Fuck NY bitch fans, they're easily worse than the Cav fans at this point. Hell, they already moved on to buying another WS by talking about getting Lee (a fucking complete whore and perfect fit) and Werth for nobody (HHAHAHAHAAH!). NY fans have definitely not let me down and earn their rep to say the least.

[spoon]

It reminds me of the times the Yankees added the biggest free agents and nothing clicked. Same with the Rangers in the NHL.

"nothing clicked"

Funny, bc I remember it having a lot to do with a bunch of assholes underachieving and not winning being a joke in the end for the yanks. As for the rangers, it's a different game and money alone just doesn't buy a Stanley Cup. You need a complete 4th line, grit guys to play in front of the net, bruisers to punish top line players and shut down guys. The Rangers haven't won since they've used this model, and certainly won't again with a cap using their approach.

[spoon]

This is worse than Modell. Because of finances running the Stadium Corp., and the unwillingness of the city to build the Browns a new building too painted Art into a corner, unless he wanted to sell the team at a debillitating loss. The mayor and city council at the time are as if not more culpable than Modell for the team leaving.

What stings is that Lebron is a northeast Ohio kid, one of US, and he chose to humiliate a fanbase that loved him unconditionally on national TV(those poor impoverished street urchins of Greenwich. Where's pete gas?). The Indians losing free agents is what it is, but this is a big F.U. and kick in the balls to a very loyal fanbase.

no, it's not

he was a free agent and chose to leave...big fucking deal

you people are fucking hilarious

[A.J.]

This is worse than Modell. Because of finances running the Stadium Corp., and the unwillingness of the city to build the Browns a new building too painted Art into a corner, unless he wanted to sell the team at a debillitating loss. The mayor and city council at the time are as if not more culpable than Modell for the team leaving.

What stings is that Lebron is a northeast Ohio kid, one of US, and he chose to humiliate a fanbase that loved him unconditionally on national TV(those poor impoverished street urchins of Greenwich. Where's pete gas?). The Indians losing free agents is what it is, but this is a big F.U. and kick in the balls to a very loyal fanbase.

no, it's not

he was a free agent and chose to leave...big fucking deal

Agreed. Losing a franchise player is one thing....losing the franchise itself is another.

Ask the people of Baltimore about the Bullets and Colts leaving town.

[JimBeam]

I can understand this kind of coverage if a player like say Kobe Bryant w/ 5 rings was making a move but seems like a lot of hoopla over a guy that's won nothing.

He'll always be 2nd fiddle in Miami even if they win 3 titles because that'll mean Wade, a franchise player, has won 4.

Roles obviously reversed if Wade had gone to Cleveland but now James went to Wade's team.

Very much like a Jeter/ARod thing in my opinion.

[TripleSkeet]

Sorry. But to me, he looks like a pussy. "I cant win a ring with my team, can I come play on yours Dwayne so you can help me win one?" Faggot.

[Dudeman]

Except for Jordan and Duncan, alot of the great players had other great players on their teams and didn't even win the Finals MVP each time they won a championship. Kareem-Magic-Worthy, Bird-Cedric Maxwell (won the mvp in '84), Kobe-Shaq.

But for each of those guys (Kareem, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq), there is no question that at some point they were the leader of the championship team.

It will go down as, James couldn't lead a team to the championship.

[spoon]

Except for Jordan and Duncan, alot of the great players had other great players on their teams and didn't even win the Finals MVP each time they won a championship. Kareem-Magic-Worthy, Bird-Cedric Maxwell (won the mvp in '84), Kobe-Shaq.

But for each of those guys (Kareem, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq), there is no question that at some point they were the leader of the championship team.

It will go down as, James couldn't lead a team to the championship.

That's garbage, you too tripsket. I'm not sure who you guys root for in the nba, but if he leads a team in a ton of statistical categories and fights his way through a matchup with Kobe he'll be just fine. For Fuck's Sake, the Celtics just did pretty much the same fucking thing and I didn't hear shit on that issue. The Yankees do it yearly with hired guns, bc they had the same team as 2008 with the exception of 2 pitchers and a first baseman. Hmmmm, wonder why they went from missing the playoffs to winning the WS?! It happens every fucking day, and James is just the last guy to do it.

However, Wade is the champ here and will be a God in Miami for helping lead this team to getting both guys. To me, it not only shows his leadership, but his ability to get people to share his vision and it's impressive. Booo fucking hooo knicks fans. I love seeing the same guys cry about a free agent going somewhere else for the "easy route" by the very same people who root for the yankees. Hypocrite douches.

[Dudeman]

That's garbage, you too tripsket. I'm not sure who you guys root for in the nba, but if he leads a team in a ton of statistical categories and fights his way through a matchup with Kobe he'll be just fine. For Fuck's Sake, the Celtics just did pretty much the same fucking thing and I didn't hear shit on that issue. The Yankees do it yearly with hired guns, bc they had the same team as 2008 with the exception of 2 pitchers and a first baseman. Hmmmm, wonder why they went from missing the playoffs to winning the WS?! It happens every fucking day, and James is just the last guy to do it.

However, Wade is the champ here and will be a God in Miami for helping lead this team to getting both guys. To me, it not only shows his leadership, but his ability to get people to share his vision and it's impressive. Booo fucking hooo knicks fans. I love seeing the same guys cry about a free agent going somewhere else for the "easy route" by the very same people who root for the yankees. Hypocrite douches.

i'm not a knick or yankee fan. but thanks for the hypocrite douche comment.

[JimBeam]

ESPN still had the hype machine working this morning w/ one of the people calling James " one of the greatest players in the history of the NBA ".

Now I've already said that I don't watch nor do I care about basketball but I know the guy is one of the better players right now but are they really considering him one of the greatest ever ?

Seems like nonsense to me.

[spoon]

Hence the reason I said I disagree and then went on to rip the knick/yank fans continuously calling ny sports radio all but crying like kevin on the radio about James. They have gone as far as saying the NBA and all it's fans across the world lost out bc James is an asshole since he chose ANYTHING but NY. In the very next breath they go on to say it's "not fair" how the Heat got all three and their titles won't mean shit. HAHAHAHAHHAHhhhahahaa! The next call is now usually a guy saying he's pumped the yanks are going to get Werth and or Lee so they can bump the lesser of Vasquez or AJ come playoff time. That's who I called hypocrite douches. :wallbash:

[spoon]

ESPN still had the hype machine working this morning w/ one of the people calling James " one of the greatest players in the history of the NBA ".

Now I've already said that I don't watch nor do I care about basketball but I know the guy is one of the better players right now but are they really considering him one of the greatest ever ?

Seems like nonsense to me.

Well I'm in the same boat on the NBA with you, but I do know he has a LONG way to go taking the best NBA rapist player of all-time. Kobe has that locked up, but he won some titles so all is forgiven. The rock filled this role with his wife.

[hanso]

He was smart he could have ended up like A.I. or Barkley.

[Pitdoc]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0709/newspaper_cover_300.jpg

[NickyL0885]

I dont see how people can kill him. He stayed at Cleveland 7 years. They never showed they could put the talent needed around him. Why should he stay and hope that theme changes? In the world of sports where players go for the money, the man is taking LESS money to have a shot at a ring. Someone here brought up the Garnett comment about how loyalty can bite you in the ass. That is so true.

And NYers need to get over this whole "players should want to come here b/c.....hey....its NY". He didn't want to play for the Knicks b/c they don't have the talent to win right now. He picked a place for his best chance to win NOW.

Barkley, Miller and all these other legends are just jealous. B/c guys like Barkley and Miller never won titles and they wish they could have done the same thing that James is doing. Oh yea, he totally should have been loyal. Gee, how'd that work for Miller?

[TheGameHHH]

I dont see how people can kill him. He stayed at Cleveland 7 years. They never showed they could put the talent needed around him. Why should he stay and hope that theme changes? In the world of sports where players go for the money, the man is taking LESS money to have a shot at a ring. Someone here brought up the Garnett comment about how loyalty can bite you in the ass. That is so true.

And NYers need to get over this whole "players should want to come here b/c.....hey....its NY". He didn't want to play for the Knicks b/c they don't have the talent to win right now. He picked a place for his best chance to win NOW.

Barkley, Miller and all these other legends are just jealous. B/c guys like Barkley and Miller never won titles and they wish they could have done the same thing that James is doing. Oh yea, he totally should have been loyal. Gee, how'd that work for Miller?

exactly.....he was a FREE agent. he can go anywhere he pleased, he chose Miami. get over it, this shit is done

[Snoogans]

exactly.....he was a FREE agent. he can go anywhere he pleased, he chose Miami. get over it, this shit is done

no one is killing him for leaving you idiots. Its how he did it. instead of having class and just signing and callin Cleveland to tell them, like a normal person, he went on TV and embarrassed them. Pay attention

[TripleSkeet]

no one is killing him for leaving you idiots. Its how he did it. instead of having class and just signing and callin Cleveland to tell them, like a normal person, he went on TV and embarrassed them. Pay attention

Thank you. Someone that fucking gets it.

And if you follow my posts I constantly rip the Yankees and anybody that just gives up on their team to try and get a ring.

Im looking at you Ray Borque, Chris Chelios, Wade Boggs and the rest of you fucking frauds.

[TheGameHHH]

no one is killing him for leaving you idiots. Its how he did it. instead of having class and just signing and callin Cleveland to tell them, like a normal person, he went on TV and embarrassed them. Pay attention

nevermind, misread you. even still, he made people talk about basketball again

[TheGameHHH]

and i love how he did it, it was fun to watch

[Snoogans]

and if he did that everyone would be bitching about how boring it was. wade stayed in miami, lebron stayed in cleveland, pierce stayed in boston, etc.

well they decided this 2 years ago. So weeks ago he coulda done it alot idfferent and so it woudla been normal. but he had to be a cock. Good for him. Cant wait til he fails

[NickyL0885]

well they decided this 2 years ago. So weeks ago he coulda done it alot idfferent and so it woudla been normal. but he had to be a cock. Good for him. Cant wait til he fails

As much as the TV thing was his fault, its also half ESPNs fault. Lets not lump all blame on LeBron.

[Snoogans]

As much as the TV thing was his fault, its also half ESPNs fault. Lets not lump all blame on LeBron.

ESPN let him do it, but they had zero part in coming up with the idea. They were approached with the idea. The conception was completely lebron, and the fact he would even agree if it wasnt his idea would be dick enough

[K.C.]

I hate this team so much. The announcement gala last night was an embarrassment.

[KnoxHarrington]

ESPN let him do it, but they had zero part in coming up with the idea. They were approached with the idea. The conception was completely lebron, and the fact he would even agree if it wasnt his idea would be dick enough

I think that if the ultimate result had been him announcing he'd stay in Cleveland, people wouldn't be criticizing him nearly as much for this show as they are now. Having this show makes it look like he is revelling in the fact that he's telling his hometown to go fuck itself. It should have been a far more low-key affair.

If he'd announced he was going to New York, he'd still getting some shit for this, but the New York media would be licking his ass too, so it would balance out.

[hanso]

No one said anyone had to watch it. It did have the same ratings as the finals. Bunch of rubes. Whatever who cares.

[spoon]

no one is killing him for leaving you idiots. Its how he did it. instead of having class and just signing and callin Cleveland to tell them, like a normal person, he went on TV and embarrassed them. Pay attention

Thank you. Someone that fucking gets it.

And if you follow my posts I constantly rip the Yankees and anybody that just gives up on their team to try and get a ring.

Im looking at you Ray Borque, Chris Chelios, Wade Boggs and the rest of you fucking frauds.

NO

there are two sides to this coin

yes he was an ass for not being up front with his old team, but it's his choice. the way he did this is a fucking joke and 99% of the people here agree. it's the 180 that people in ny made once he chose miami. this other side, the one where ny fans and some others all of a sudden hate bron and feel slighted is HILARIOUS.

oh and that owner babied his ass for 7 fucking years and was shocked when he acted like a spoiled bitch. right, how ever did this action come to be?! I'm so surprised.

[spoon]

well they decided this 2 years ago. So weeks ago he coulda done it alot idfferent and so it woudla been normal. but he had to be a cock. Good for him. Cant wait til he fails

yah, no

this is just bullshit hype ny fans and others love to tell each other bc he didn't chose them. fucking baby attitudes if you ask me, bc this is the ONLY way he wouldn't chose us right?! I'm sorry, players arbitrarily talk about how cool it would be to play together at pretty much any gathering of star players and more. to say he talked to all these teams years later and it was already decided no doubt...yah, sure.

[spoon]

No one said anyone had to watch it. It did have the same ratings as the finals. Bunch of rubes. Whatever who cares.

good point and that's why I didn't

Does it show he's an egotistical asshole? Sure. Does it also show that people back up this attitude and have kissed his ass (including the knick fans bc they wanted him) for years? Yes as well. It basically symbolizes the game in question, all image, no substance or pride. I can watch any sport, but after the world cup this year, I realize NBA has gone down the ladder even more. Now add this bullshit and it only makes it worse. NY fans are the biggest hypocrites in this whole thing though. I hate LeBron and the NBA, but my hate for the NY fan in all of this makes me want him to win every fucking title in Miami possible until he leaves or it's broken up. Not only will people bitch and moan about it, it exposes the issues with formed dream teams that the NY fans themselves wanted and now bitch about. It's funny, but at least Wade is an original Heat. Go yanks!

[DiabloSammich]

ESPN let him do it, but they had zero part in coming up with the idea. They were approached with the idea. The conception was completely lebron, and the fact he would even agree if it wasnt his idea would be dick enough



Actually, blame Jim Gray for planting the seed. He approached Lebron's camp with the idea during last season's playoffs.


Just another reason to hate Jim Gray.


I wish I had a camp.

[hanso]

good point and that's why I didn't

Does it show he's an egotistical asshole? Sure. Does it also show that people back up this attitude and have kissed his ass (including the knick fans bc they wanted him) for years? Yes as well. It basically symbolizes the game in question, all image, no substance or pride. I can watch any sport, but after the world cup this year, I realize NBA has gone down the ladder even more. Now add this bullshit and it only makes it worse. NY fans are the biggest hypocrites in this whole thing though. I hate LeBron and the NBA, but my hate for the NY fan in all of this makes me want him to win every fucking title in Miami possible until he leaves or it's broken up. Not only will people bitch and moan about it, it exposes the issues with formed dream teams that the NY fans themselves wanted and now bitch about. It's funny, but at least Wade is an original Heat. Go yanks!

Spot on. And why having more than one or two top players on a team can only lead to better games. Ty Celtics for getting the ball rolling. I loved watching NBA in the late 70's early 80's when it was fast paced and high scores.

Long live :king: James

[TripleSkeet]

Spoon, Im actually agreeing with you about the NY fans. Im sorry but they do have a sense of entitlement like Ive never seen before. Like athletes should all want to go there. Like the fucking Yankee fans that, even with Sabathia, Arod, Burnett, Tex, Jeter and Granderson, thought their team should also be getting Cliff Lee and Jason Werth for basically nothing. The same people that cry if one of their 17 teams havent won a title for over 5 years.

Sorry New Yorkers, but the one thing youll never have is that deep deep appreciation that comes when your team earns a title after going through years and years of heartbreak. Its one of the only reasons I give a little more leeway to Red Sox fans, because I understand the pain they went through before this century.

Doesnt change the fact Lebron is a disloyal fraud and a pussy that couldnt get it done with his team so he had to go to Dwayne Wades team to try and get that ring.

[hanso]

I hear its the number one market.

[Snoogans]

yah, no

this is just bullshit hype ny fans and others love to tell each other bc he didn't chose them. fucking baby attitudes if you ask me, bc this is the ONLY way he wouldn't chose us right?! I'm sorry, players arbitrarily talk about how cool it would be to play together at pretty much any gathering of star players and more. to say he talked to all these teams years later and it was already decided no doubt...yah, sure.

actually, spoon, if you bothered to look anything up, they did decide. And chris paul was also part of it. it was originally written about then and everyone blew it off just like you did.

And again, remember you are talkin to the 1 NY person who didnt expect him to choose us. I can even link you to the article where it was first brought up if you would like.
In fact. when the pact was originally made, they all planned to go to the knicks. They had planned it to that level. They just never expected other teams to get the space also. Look it up

[hammersavage]

Sorry New Yorkers, but the one thing youll never have is that deep deep appreciation that comes when your team earns a title after going through years and years of heartbreak. Its one of the only reasons I give a little more leeway to Red Sox fans, because I understand the pain they went through before this century.


Ill tell Mets, Jets, Rangers, Islanders, Knicks, and Nets fans the bad news.

[TripleSkeet]

Ill tell Mets, Jets, Rangers, Islanders, Knicks, and Nets fans the bad news.

I love that you count Rangers fans as long suffering. 16 years is nothing. Mets and Islanders had titles in the 80s. Nets are NJ not NY. The Jets are the only long suffering fans you guys have, and the reason it doesnt matter is because you dont usually find someone thats a fan of all the NY teams that dont win. If someones a Jets fan and a Yankees fan...thats not long suffering. Sorry.

Most cities dont have to have 7-8 teams to rely on if our original one isnt good. Im sure Knicks fans cant wait for the Nets to go to Brooklyn so they can jump ship.

[hammersavage]

I meant the 54 years before 94 for the Rangers fans. Not like the 25 years the faggots in Philadelphia had to wait.

[hammersavage]

And the Knicks are coming on 40 years

[sailor]

I love that you count Rangers fans as long suffering. 16 years is nothing. Mets and Islanders had titles in the 80s. Nets are NJ not NY. The Jets are the only long suffering fans you guys have, and the reason it doesnt matter is because you dont usually find someone thats a fan of all the NY teams that dont win. If someones a Jets fan and a Yankees fan...thats not long suffering. Sorry.

Most cities dont have to have 7-8 teams to rely on if our original one isnt good. Im sure Knicks fans cant wait for the Nets to go to Brooklyn so they can jump ship.

i think he means the post 1940 rangers shit (yeah, i'm slow). also seems crazy to take a sort of pride in not winning.

[TripleSkeet]

i think he means the post 1940 rangers shit (yeah, i'm slow). also seems crazy to take a sort of pride in not winning.

Its not pride. Its appreciation. New York is the rich kid who just bought his first car with the inheritance he got when his grandfather died. That World Series in 08 was like a kid working for years in order to save up the money to buy it. Both appreciate their car, but not at the same level.

I meant the 54 years before 94 for the Rangers fans. Not like the 25 years the faggots in Philadelphia had to wait.

Um...the 25 years Philly waited was for EVERY SPORT. In those 54 years Rangers fans waited how many fucking World Series parades did they have? In the last 15 years how many parades has New York had? Youre not long suffering fans. Get over it.

And I dont think Philly are anymore either. The Super Bowl thing is very big for me, but that World Series win and parade was so great that it will hold me over for quite awhile. If I had to look at long suffering fans right now Id have to say Cleveland, Buffalo and Minnesota are up there.

[hammersavage]

Um...the 25 years Philly waited was for EVERY SPORT. In those 54 years Rangers fans waited how many fucking World Series parades did they have?.



You're right, Red Sox fans didn't suffer because the Celtics won 15 championships. Makes total sense.

[sailor]

Its not pride. Its appreciation. New York is the rich kid who just bought his first car with the inheritance he got when his grandfather died. That World Series in 08 was like a kid working for years in order to save up the money to buy it. Both appreciate their car, but not at the same level.

i don't know, everyone's situation is different. i vaguely remember the yankees winning when i was 6 or 7, and appreciated the fuck out of them next winning when i was 25.

[sailor]

and HS is jersey, he doesn't get a say anyways.

[hammersavage]

Well than you can't post in the Jersey Shore thread mother fucker

[sailor]

Well than you can't post in the Jersey Shore thread mother fucker

they're all ny anyways.

[Dan 'Hampton]

You're right, Red Sox fans didn't suffer because the Celtics won 15 championships. Makes total sense.



16 buster get it straight.

[hammersavage]

16 buster get it straight.



I thought it was 15 in the 86 years and 1 since. I apologize.

[spoon]

Spoon, Im actually agreeing with you about the NY fans. Im sorry but they do have a sense of entitlement like Ive never seen before. Like athletes should all want to go there. Like the fucking Yankee fans that, even with Sabathia, Arod, Burnett, Tex, Jeter and Granderson, thought their team should also be getting Cliff Lee and Jason Werth for basically nothing. The same people that cry if one of their 17 teams havent won a title for over 5 years.

Sorry New Yorkers, but the one thing youll never have is that deep deep appreciation that comes when your team earns a title after going through years and years of heartbreak. Its one of the only reasons I give a little more leeway to Red Sox fans, because I understand the pain they went through before this century.

Doesnt change the fact Lebron is a disloyal fraud and a pussy that couldnt get it done with his team so he had to go to Dwayne Wades team to try and get that ring.

And I agree that Lebron is a douche for doing it the way he did, but for ny fans to act hurt bc of it is a FUCKING JOKE. Then to make it out to be unfair or a future bs title if he wins in Miami is also comedic since it's their blueprint for every team in every sport win or lose.

As for the Sox, they get more leeway from me for two reasons, they are actually the loudest proponent for a cap. This is the second reason, they want the cap bc they only spend as much as they do to somewhat maintain the gap to contend over 162 games with the yanks. It hasn't worked over the 162 that much either, but they have made it count in the playoffs (which is the great equalizer if you have some top end pieces).

[spoon]

actually, spoon, if you bothered to look anything up, they did decide. And chris paul was also part of it. it was originally written about then and everyone blew it off just like you did.

And again, remember you are talkin to the 1 NY person who didnt expect him to choose us. I can even link you to the article where it was first brought up if you would like.
In fact. when the pact was originally made, they all planned to go to the knicks. They had planned it to that level. They just never expected other teams to get the space also. Look it up

bothered to look it up...fuck that I remember this and countless other "stories" and mentions of players in all the major sports back to the damn 80s say similar shit after all-star games, charity events, off-season gatherings or olympic type teams. My point is actually backed up by your very post and we actually talked about it later (after ur post) that they can say ANYTHING years ago and it's not written in stone. He sure as hell wasn't 100% on this until recently, and probably wouldn't have gone anywhere if he won a title or two in Cleveland. Yes, other teams were a player, including the knicks, but now that it wasn't the KNICKS they all chose, knick fans are crying about the very plan they hoped would have made their team. I know you didn't think he was coming, but I surely know one who did...even when it was CLEAR AS FUCKING DAY!! But hey, he's a pussy....now.

[Sinestro]

Lebron's mom gave her approval to go to the Heat so she can continue to get down with Lebron's teammate on the Cavs. If she told him not to go, he would have stayed in Cleveland and his mom would have to hide her sexual escapades with that Cleveland dude. C'mon, who would want to see their mom after a game being a groupie to someone you work with coming out of the john with the other fellow?

[epo]

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[Snoogans]

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HA

Awesome

[Jayw]

I really hope lebron is the next marino. It wil be fun to watch them play but that whole self centered spectacle on espn was pretty low. As much as I like dwayne wade I just got to root for lebron to lose.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jesse JAckson just called Gilbert, I swear to god, a "slave owner" for his public letter to Cleveland fans. It's on TMZ.

[epo]

Jesse JAckson just called Gilbert, I swear to god, a "slave owner" for his public letter to Cleveland fans. It's on TMZ.

So what? Gilbert was acting like a jackass and got called out for it.

[spoon]

So what? Gilbert was acting like a jackass and got called out for it.

one asshole to another

[sailor]

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bosh is openly gay, no?

[Tenbatsuzen]

So what? Gilbert was acting like a jackass and got called out for it.

Kind of a massive jump to go from what Gilbert did to PLAYING THE FUCKING RACE CARD.

[epo]

Kind of a massive jump to go from what Gilbert did to PLAYING THE FUCKING RACE CARD.

A leap, sure. But its not like Dan Gilbert is showing the slightest bit of class in the manner that he's treating LeBron.

There is a funny parallel in the rich white owner whose franchise tripled in value because of the minority player bitching about the player leaving once he got the right to.

[Tenbatsuzen]

A leap, sure. But its not like Dan Gilbert is showing the slightest bit of class in the manner that he's treating LeBron.



Tell me you are seriously not bringing up "class" when we are discussing the decision of Lebron James.

Letter posted on website defending his fanbase is worse than a one hour special on TV that destroys his image? You smoking crack, epo?

[epo]

Tell me you are seriously not bringing up "class" when we are discussing the decision of Lebron James.

Letter posted on website defending his fanbase is worse than a one hour special on TV that destroys his image? You smoking crack, epo?

I'm not saying that James' move was "classy", quite to the contrary I thought it was a shitbag move.

However, Gilbert is acting like a total fucking idiot in the aftermath and he deserves whatever he gets.

[keithy_19]

However, Gilbert is acting like a total fucking idiot in the aftermath and he deserves whatever he gets.

If what he gets makes sense.

[A.J.]

And the Knicks are coming on 40 years

Yeah, and THIS should help! (http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5369726)

[King Hippos Bandaid]

did anyone really believe he was coming to NY....

Im hoping the Knicks can sign Melo after in 2011... Pick up Felton This Year


If all works according to plan we can be Lebosh Wade's bitch... just like we were Jordan's bitch


I can somewhat live with that

[spoon]

did anyone really believe he was coming to NY....



New York
Brad_Rush, DIRTY_MEX, Enabler, Gmann, JPMNICK, Kevin, Marc with a c, RingWraith, sailor, TripleSkeet

Yet only the bolded one continued to believe it right up until the bitter end. His belief was soooo strong he decided to call everyone else a bunch of "idiots" for believing he would even think of going to Miami.... 20 minutes after the announcement, this was all pre-planned, he's a fraud, self-proclaimed king of shit a coward and so much more I never heard until he said Miami.

:lol:

[JPMNICK]

New York
Brad_Rush, DIRTY_MEX, Enabler, Gmann, JPMNICK, Kevin, Marc with a c, RingWraith, sailor, TripleSkeet

Yet only the bolded one continued to believe it right up until the bitter end. His belief was soooo strong he decided to call everyone else a bunch of "idiots" for believing he would even think of going to Miami.... 20 minutes after the announcement, this was all pre-planned, he's a fraud, self-proclaimed king of shit a coward and so much more I never heard until he said Miami.

:lol:

i really thought he would take the challenge, come to a major market and turn around a shitty but once great franchise.

instead he took the easy way out, disappointing but i really don't care.

[TripleSkeet]

i really thought he would take the challenge, come to a major market and turn around a shitty but once great franchise.

instead he took the easy way out, disappointing but i really don't care.

This was my thought exactly. Take the franchise, try to win a championship and make it your own. I know they love Patrick Ewing there, but if he did that they wouldnt even remember Ewings name after that. I thought he was going to try to make his name synonymous with the team like Jordan - Bulls, Magic - Lakers, Bird - Celtics, Dr J - Sixers.

I shouldve known better. Pussy.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Jesse JAckson just called Gilbert, I swear to god, a "slave owner" for his public letter to Cleveland fans. It's on TMZ.

That Cleveland Plantation owner paid him really good

[hanso]

6 lebron 3 wade 1 bosh

631 was the pick three numbers for Florida Friday? or the last time it drew.So I heard.

[Rhah]

:lol:

http://twitpic.com/244dhh
http://twitpic.com/244dhh

[JimBeam]

I keep hearing these 3 stooges talk about how this is history and how there's never been 3 of the best players ever on the same team.

First of all who told these morons they they were in the list of best ever ?

1 title in 21 or so seasons between them.

How about they win at least even one title before they start saying how great they will be.

I can't wait for the failure, then the fighting and then the excuses.

I wanna stab myself for putting this much thought into basketball but I can't escape it because ESPN is still alloting 15 minutes of every hour update show to this topic.

Any good quotes from Shaq or Kobe or anybody else in the league ?

[hammersavage]

First of all who told these morons they they were in the list of best ever ?

the list of best ever? depends how long the list is but clearly 2 of them are on it/gonna be on it.

[Dudeman]

I keep hearing these 3 stooges talk about how this is history and how there's never been 3 of the best players ever on the same team.

First of all who told these morons they they were in the list of best ever ?

1 title in 21 or so seasons between them.

How about they win at least even one title before they start saying how great they will be.

I can't wait for the failure, then the fighting and then the excuses.

I wanna stab myself for putting this much thought into basketball but I can't escape it because ESPN is still alloting 15 minutes of every hour update show to this topic.

Any good quotes from Shaq or Kobe or anybody else in the league ?

Let me tell Kareem, Magic, and Worthy the news...

3/3 won NCAA championships
3/3 won NCAA tourney MOPs
3/3 won final MVPs
2/3 have multiple league MVPs
5 NCAA and 14 NBA titles total

[hammersavage]

Let me tell Kareem, Magic, and Worthy the news...

3/3 won NCAA championships
2/3 won NCAA tourney MOPs
3/3 won final MVPs
2/3 have multiple league MVPs
5 NCAA and 14 NBA titles total

that one is probably the best ever hardware wise.

Chamberlain, Baylor and West too but they didn't really have the reign they should have.

[A.J.]

I keep hearing these 3 stooges talk about how this is history and how there's never been 3 of the best players ever on the same team.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2007/08/05/amd_celtics_1991.jpg

[Dudeman]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2007/08/05/amd_celtics_1991.jpg

Never... no NCCA championships, no NCAA tourney MOP's, only one won NBA MVP, only one won NBA finals MVP. Not even close. Not to mention 2 to 1 in NBA finals matchups, with the winners below.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/preps/uploaded_images/1-740634.jpg

[JimBeam]

the list of best ever? depends how long the list is but clearly 2 of them are on it/gonna be on it.

But do we know that for sure ?

Can't they simply get worse as they get older ?

I don't follow the sport but I figure as is the case in almost all sports you have guys that are good for 7 years or so but then they start to slip.

I see no reason why that couldn't be the case with these guys. And I'm not even factoring in injuries because I usually don't wish that on anybody no matter how much I hate them.

I've heard the old Celtics teams and Lakers teams mentioned by people who know the sport and wish somebody would remind these jackoffs of that.

This clearly seems to be a case of people believing their own clippings.

[Rhah]

http://www.bradleywill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/michael-jordan-mj-mj-23.jpg

http://www.nba.com/media/act_scottie_pippen.jpg

... and insert any other player that they made great

http://chicagoist.com/attachments/Margaret%20Lyons/2008_4_22.benny.jpg

[A.J.]

Never... no NCCA championships, no NCAA tourney MOP's, only one won NBA MVP, only one won NBA finals MVP. Not even close. Not to mention 2 to 1 in NBA finals matchups, with the winners below.

Bird, McHale and Parrish are 3 of the best 50 NBA players of all-time. But as hammersavage pointed out, the Lakers 3 get the edge in hardware.

But Bill Russell trumps them all: 11 NBA Championships, led the University of San Francisco to two consecutive NCAA championships (1955, 1956), won a gold medal at the 1956 Summer Olympics as captain of the U.S. national basketball team,
# 5× NBA MVP (1958, 1961–1963, 1965)
# 12× NBA All-Star (1958–1969)
# 3× All-NBA First Team Selection (1959, 1963, 1965)
# 8× All-NBA Second Team Selection (1958, 1960–1962, 1964, 1966–1968)
# 1× NBA All-Defensive First Team Selection (1969)
# 1× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1963)

[JimBeam]

I know it's when 2/4 of them where older but what about the Lakers team w/ Shaq. Kobe, Gary Payton and Karl Malone ?

[sailor]

How do you win MVP and not make the NBA first team?

[Dudeman]

Bird, McHale and Parrish are 3 of the best 50 NBA players of all-time. But as hammersavage pointed out, the Lakers 3 get the edge in hardware.

But Bill Russell trumps them all: 11 NBA Championships, led the University of San Francisco to two consecutive NCAA championships (1955, 1956), won a gold medal at the 1956 Summer Olympics as captain of the U.S. national basketball team,
# 5× NBA MVP (1958, 1961–1963, 1965)
# 12× NBA All-Star (1958–1969)
# 3× All-NBA First Team Selection (1959, 1963, 1965)
# 8× All-NBA Second Team Selection (1958, 1960–1962, 1964, 1966–1968)
# 1× NBA All-Defensive First Team Selection (1969)
# 1× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1963)

Some of the things Kareem has more of than Russell:
3 NCAA championships
3× NCAA MOP
19x NBA all-star
6x NBA MVP
10x NBA 1st team
5× NBA All-Defensive 1st Team
all time leading scorer

oh, and this
http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/airplane-kareem.jpg

[Dudeman]

How do you win MVP and not make the NBA first team?

I imagine it was b/c chamberlain was a better bball player, but russell was on the better/winning team.

[TripleSkeet]

Some of the things Kareem has more of than Russell:
3 NCAA championships
3× NCAA MOP
19x NBA all-star
6x NBA MVP
10x NBA 1st team
5× NBA All-Defensive 1st Team
all time leading scorer

oh, and this
http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/airplane-kareem.jpg

Dont forget this...
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2073/54314104.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/54314104.jpg/)


But then again, he also had this...
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7697/26654735.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/26654735.jpg/)

[spoon]

Comparing eras is a tough thing to do, not to mention trophies are very political...especially these days. I think all the players mentioned are outstanding in their eras, some had better competition, others had better complimentary players around them. The bottom line on this argument is we can't even have it yet. I'm sure they'll win a few, probably soon too bc James almost did it himself and now he has a ton of help. If there is ever a sport where it can happen like this, it's basketball.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Bill Burrs podcast has a great rant about the fraud that is the New York Knicks claiming that msg is the big stage.

[hanso]

6 lebron 3 wade 1 bosh

631 was the pick three numbers for Florida Friday? or the last time it drew.So I heard.

Saw it in paper was Monday 2 days after "the decision".


I love Bill Burr going off. Was it his last one? Mondays?


And the best is by stats 2 of top 3. Or 3 of 5.

[Barnaby Jones]

Look at this weak shit!

http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/64561/tx_cover_bigthree.jpg

LeBron literally only had one option in terms of the teams he could have gone to where he wouldn't have been the man, and he willfully chose the second banana role with that one choice. What a fucking wimp! I'll bet if the Lakers had had the money he would have gone there!

[spoon]

sounds like the last 50 big mlb signings to me

yeah!

[Rhah]

Wilt is the best NBA'er turned actor.

http://pacejmiller.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/wilt-conan-the-destroyer.jpg

[Suspect Chin]

Wilt is the best NBA'er turned actor.



Hey Rhah, did you know the other day was the anniversary of some dumb shit from Back to the Future?

[Rhah]

Hey Rhah, did you know the other day was the anniversary of some dumb shit from Back to the Future?

lol... zing. I wish my first email read by Ronnie wasn't such a horrible mistake especially since I tried to fix it with another ignore email 30 seconds after I sent the mail I read that it was all a hoax...

oh well, if you aren't the joker be the joke as he always says

[epo]

Bird, McHale and Parrish are 3 of the best 50 NBA players of all-time. But as hammersavage pointed out, the Lakers 3 get the edge in hardware.

But Bill Russell trumps them all: 11 NBA Championships, led the University of San Francisco to two consecutive NCAA championships (1955, 1956), won a gold medal at the 1956 Summer Olympics as captain of the U.S. national basketball team,
# 5× NBA MVP (1958, 1961–1963, 1965)
# 12× NBA All-Star (1958–1969)
# 3× All-NBA First Team Selection (1959, 1963, 1965)
# 8× All-NBA Second Team Selection (1958, 1960–1962, 1964, 1966–1968)
# 1× NBA All-Defensive First Team Selection (1969)
# 1× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1963)

In one night the Boston Celtics drafted Bill Russell, KC Jones and Tommy Heinsohn....all Hall of Famers. Simply amazing.

[Snoogans]

guys, trust me. HE ISNT GOING TO MIAMI.


NO CHANCE

[Dell]

guys, trust me. HE ISNT GOING TO MIAMI.


NO CHANCE

HA...haven't posted or followed this thread...

Just caught this on iSpy and laughed my ass off...

What's your prediction mr. snoogans?..