HBO's Boardwalk Empire

[thepaulo]

It's times like these that I wish I had more time.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/new-boardwalk-empire-trailer/

[Willmore]

It's times like these that I wish I had more time.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/06/new-boardwalk-empire-trailer/

Can't wait. HBO is getting its shit together it seems.

[boobieman]

Looks very interesting. No matter what era, Steve Buscemi is one ugly bastard.

I will be a watchin....

SSSEYYAYAYAAAA

[TripleSkeet]

Whens this starting?

[underdog]

Whens this starting?

September.

[NewYorkDragons80]

It's times like these that I wish I had more time.

???

[Bowel]

Hey Paul O, what your next movie gonna be about?

[thepaulo]

Hey Paul O, what your next movie gonna be about?

I probably shouldn't mention it but It's actually beginning to happen.

[Willmore]

I probably shouldn't mention it but It's actually beginning to happen.

Someone is actually willing to put up money for it? Or is it an Uwe Boll-type tax evasion thing?

[booster11373]

I just read the book this will be based on. Its a quick read giving the history of AC and how its been corrupt since its founding.

[spoon]

just saw a trailer for this on hbo and it looks pretty damn good!

I'm in.

[IamFogHat]

Can't wait.

[thepaulo]

Just got a bunch of premium channels and HBO is running a massive promotion for the show...lots of footage....Michael Pitt plays the DiCaprio clone.

[Willmore]

Is it about time we fix the thread title? The name of the show is Boardwalk Empire.

[TheGameHHH]

Is it about time we fix the thread title? The name of the show is Boardwalk Empire.

agreed...

with that said, the previews for this show already give me a boner

[Snoogans]

agreed...

with that said, the previews for this show already give me a boner

Steve Buchemi has been giving you boners since you first saw Airheads

[thepaulo]

Is it about time we fix the thread title? The name of the show is Boardwalk Empire.

don't know how

[hammersavage]

why would you

[Willmore]

why would you

He's an auteur. There are DPs and ADs for the small stuff.

[thepaulo]

He's an auteur. There are DPs and ADs for the small stuff.

thank you

[S0S]

Boardwalk Empire premiered/s tonight on HBO.

Boardwalk Empire - HBO (http://hbo.com/boardwalkempire/)
"Boardwalk Empire" (IMDB) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0979432/)
Boardwalk Empire: HBO is back with its sweeping gangster drama (http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2010/09/boardwalk_empire_episode_1_rev.html)

[TheGameHHH]

loved it

[NickyL0885]

Great show.

[DOHO@HOME]

HBO does it again, what a good show.:clap:

[Furtherman]

Great start... this will probably be an awesome series. I can see Bushemi's personal aide becoming a beloved character.

[CountryBob]

Damn - I was salivating at the other shows coming in 2011 - HBO has got it going on!

[Willmore]

Ok, I want to preface my comments by saying that I really liked the show, the story, the characters etc. etc.

Is it just me, though, or has Marty done a pretty average job of directing this thing? There was nothing spectacular and most shots were pretty stock that have been done dozens of times. Take climax when the Chicago Caruso-loving mobster gets shot in the back of the head and the blood splatters the camera. First of all, that splatter shot has been done to death and it has done far better than this. The pause before the shot usually serves as a suspense-builder, yet for it to work, one needs to have an attachment to the character in peril. It is impossible to have an attachment to a character who had 3 lines before this and who holds no significance to the audience. And could it be telegraphed any more? I knew the guy was going to get capped as soon as he entered an empty restaurant.

[TripleSkeet]

I loved it.

But I see visions of Rome and Deadwood in my head. This series cant go long with these production values. I heard that episode cost $18 mill to make.

[Willmore]

I loved it.

But I see visions of Rome and Deadwood in my head. This series cant go long with these production values. I heard that episode cost $18 mill to make.

Rome cost over 100 mil for 12 episodes. The Pacific cost 200 mil for 10 episodes.

HBO has the money, but if a series doesn't perform well at the awards, like Rome and Deadwood, then the bets are off.

[TripleSkeet]

Rome cost over 100 mil for 12 episodes. The Pacific cost 200 mil for 10 episodes.

HBO has the money, but if a series doesn't perform well at the awards, like Rome and Deadwood, then the bets are off.

Which awards are we talking about? Rome won 4 Emmys and was nominated for 8 after the first season, when they announced the 2nd season would be it.

[Willmore]

Which awards are we talking about? Rome won 4 Emmys and was nominated for 8 after the first season, when they announced the 2nd season would be it.

Of the best Drama, best Actor, best Actress etc. variety. "Outstanding Art Direction For A Single-Camera Series" doesn't have quite the cachet of the others.

[Snacks]

I really liked this, it has great potential. I had to give it a chance it takes place in Jersey!

[RoseBlood]

Haven't been this excited for an HBO show in a while.. can't wait to watch!

[Kevin]

Which awards are we talking about? Rome won 4 Emmys and was nominated for 8 after the first season, when they announced the 2nd season would be it.



How does HBO judge what is a sucessful show?

Ratings? Not sure if they have them for HBO..

People talking about it? On Demand watches?

I think it would be pretty hard to judge subs that HBO has for one show...

[hammersavage]

How does HBO judge what is a sucessful show?

Ratings? Not sure if they have them for HBO..

People talking about it? On Demand watches?

I think it would be pretty hard to judge subs that HBO has for one show...

HBO pretty much ignores ratings.

They look at critical reception, buzz and their own satisfaction with what is produced

[Kevin]

HBO pretty much ignores ratings.

They look at critical reception, buzz and their own satisfaction with what is produced



I don't know which one of those Rome did not have..

No way it should have been done after two years..

So much more history there...

[hammersavage]

I don't know which one of those Rome did not have..

No way it should have been done after two years..

So much more history there...

I personally don't know a single person who watched Rome.

And their production costs were astronomical.

[Zipgun]

I personally don't know a single person who watched Rome.

Well... we've met, if that counts.


I loved Rome.

[Zipgun]

Ok, I want to preface my comments by saying that I really liked the show, the story, the characters etc. etc.

Is it just me, though, or has Marty done a pretty average job of directing this thing? There was nothing spectacular and most shots were pretty stock that have been done dozens of times. Take climax when the Chicago Caruso-loving mobster gets shot in the back of the head and the blood splatters the camera. First of all, that splatter shot has been done to death and it has done far better than this. The pause before the shot usually serves as a suspense-builder, yet for it to work, one needs to have an attachment to the character in peril. It is impossible to have an attachment to a character who had 3 lines before this and who holds no significance to the audience. And could it be telegraphed any more? I knew the guy was going to get capped as soon as he entered an empty restaurant.

I'd agree that it didn't have a distinctive Scorsese feel, but I don't think that's a bad thing. You have to remember that they will have different directors later through the season and there has to be somewhat of a continuity. As far as Colisimo getting shot in the back of the head and the blood splatter and pooling around him, I only had visions of Tommy in Goodfellas getting whacked, even down to the tile floor. Maybe it was a lack of creativity or maybe it was an intentional homage with a wink to the audience. I'd prefer to think of it as the latter.
I don't think it was necessary to get to know the character because he was only significant to illustrate how they were branching out to Chicago and to introduce Rothstein, Luciano and a young Capone. And since someone out of those four had to die, obviously, he was going to be it.

[TripleSkeet]

I personally don't know a single person who watched Rome.

And their production costs were astronomical.

I know alot of people that watched Rome. All of which LOVED it. I guess not as many people are going to follow a show like that or Deadwood over The Sopranos or Entourage because you actually have to have a brain to follow whats going on.

But I dont know how much critical acclaim wouldve made HBO keep spending hundreds of millions of dollars in production for a tv show. Thats why I dont think this series on going to be a very long standing series.

[Jujubees2]

Man Boardwalk Empire was on just about every HBO channel last night.

Best line: Ride me cowboy!

"Will you stop with the 'ride'em cowboy shit? It's distracting me!"

[RoseBlood]

Man Boardwalk Empire was on just about every HBO channel last night.

Best line: Ride me cowboy!

"Will you stop with the 'ride'em cowboy shit? It's distracting me!"

Ha! Don't know why, but that scene had me reminiscing of Fargo.

[KnoxHarrington]

Ha! Don't know why, but that scene had me reminiscing of Fargo.

That shot of the four of them just sort of lying there in that seedy motel room looking bored out of their skulls as The Tonight Show starts makes me laugh as much as anything else ever.

[Willmore]

I'd agree that it didn't have a distinctive Scorsese feel, but I don't think that's a bad thing. You have to remember that they will have different directors later through the season and there has to be somewhat of a continuity. As far as Colisimo getting shot in the back of the head and the blood splatter and pooling around him, I only had visions of Tommy in Goodfellas getting whacked, even down to the tile floor. Maybe it was a lack of creativity or maybe it was an intentional homage with a wink to the audience. I'd prefer to think of it as the latter.
I don't think it was necessary to get to know the character because he was only significant to illustrate how they were branching out to Chicago and to introduce Rothstein, Luciano and a young Capone. And since someone out of those four had to die, obviously, he was going to be it.

I didn't have a problem with the kill itself, I was merely saying that Scorsese used that pause before the shot to try to create suspense. It failed miserably, because there was no attachment to the person getting killed. People like that get killed all the time, that's fine, but Scorsese, as a director, should know when he is doing something that doesn't work, and can't possibly work. It would have been more appropriate for that character to be killed suddenly, without the reveal of the killer standing there with a gun to his head, that would have at least given the audience a sudden jolt.

[Gutter]

Man Boardwalk Empire was on just about every HBO channel last night.

Best line: Ride me cowboy!

"Will you stop with the 'ride'em cowboy shit? It's distracting me!"

"we were fucking!!!!!" hahaha

little slow at the start, but had a wild ending......i'm slightly confused by two scenes.....maybe not confused, but curious.......two scenes had Nukkey (Buschemi's character) peering into a storefront window.....once at the premature baby store (they really had those? jezzus the 20's were tough) and at the fortune tellers store......was it intended to cause us to link the two together? as if to say his future has an unhealthy baby in it? is it a fear of his? i wonder what they're eluding to there.

oh, and the dinner scene was a little odd to me.....if they're sitting there to conduct business, why does everyone at the table get the, "i'm gonna shit myself" look when Nukkey and whoever start trying to strike a deal? and why did the Chicago guy get capped? was that a result of Capone stealing the whiskey? i loved how they worked that in btw.........and that its Donnie Whalberg in that role....i hope its not just a one off thing.

i think i'm diggin it.......It was awesome to see Dabney Coleman at the end.

[TripleSkeet]

"we were fucking!!!!!" hahaha

little slow at the start, but had a wild ending......i'm slightly confused by two scenes.....maybe not confused, but curious.......two scenes had Nukkey (Buschemi's character) peering into a storefront window.....once at the premature baby store (they really had those? jezzus the 20's were tough) and at the fortune tellers store......was it intended to cause us to link the two together? as if to say his future has an unhealthy baby in it? is it a fear of his? i wonder what they're eluding to there.

oh, and the dinner scene was a little odd to me.....if they're sitting there to conduct business, why does everyone at the table get the, "i'm gonna shit myself" look when Nukkey and whoever start trying to strike a deal? and why did the Chicago guy get capped? was that a result of Capone stealing the whiskey? i loved how they worked that in btw.........and that its Donnie Whalberg in that role....i hope its not just a one off thing.

i think i'm diggin it.......It was awesome to see Dabney Coleman at the end.

Colosimo got killed because he didnt want his guys involved with bootlegging, just gambling and whores. It was too much money to pass up, so Capone took all the liquor, and killed the boss. Basically taking over.

The same thing happened in the 60s and 70s with bosses that didnt want to get involved with drugs.

[Willmore]

"we were fucking!!!!!" hahaha

little slow at the start, but had a wild ending......i'm slightly confused by two scenes.....maybe not confused, but curious.......two scenes had Nukkey (Buschemi's character) peering into a storefront window.....once at the premature baby store (they really had those? jezzus the 20's were tough) and at the fortune tellers store......was it intended to cause us to link the two together? as if to say his future has an unhealthy baby in it? is it a fear of his? i wonder what they're eluding to there.

oh, and the dinner scene was a little odd to me.....if they're sitting there to conduct business, why does everyone at the table get the, "i'm gonna shit myself" look when Nukkey and whoever start trying to strike a deal? and why did the Chicago guy get capped? was that a result of Capone stealing the whiskey? i loved how they worked that in btw.........and that its Donnie Whalberg in that role....i hope its not just a one off thing.

i think i'm diggin it.......It was awesome to see Dabney Coleman at the end.

The baby store thing was to add some humanity to the character, like the story about him losing his wife to TB. the fortune teller, I think, was about him thinking about his future and the drastic and vast over-criminalization of his life. Whereas he was previously just a corrupt politician in AC, he will now be involved in trafficking, murder, racketeering etc.

The dinner scene was about Lucky Luciano being a young punk who can't be bothered to be tactful about getting to the business.

[TripleSkeet]

The baby store thing was to add some humanity to the character, like the story about him losing his wife to TB. the fortune teller, I think, was about him thinking about his future and the drastic and vast over-criminalization of his life. Whereas he was previously just a corrupt politician in AC, he will now be involved in trafficking, murder, racketeering etc.

The dinner scene was about Lucky Luciano being a young punk who can't be bothered to be tactful about getting to the business.

From what I read about Nucky Johnson throughout his whole life, especially when things were good, he would give money and help out to anyone that needed it. He was beloved in South Jersey.

[Snoogans]

just read this on wiki, and it killed a big part of the show for me:

Enoch Lewis "Nucky" Johnson (January 20, 1883 – December 9, 1968) was an Atlantic City, New Jersey political boss and racketeer. From 1911 until his imprisonment in 1941, he was the undisputed “boss” of the Republican political machine that controlled Atlantic City and the Atlantic County government. Using his 6 foot one inch 250 pound frame to advantage

im pretty sure steve buchemi is not 6'1 250

[Willmore]

just read this on wiki, and it killed a big part of the show for me:



im pretty sure steve buchemi is not 6'1 250

Suspension of disbelief.

[TripleSkeet]

just read this on wiki, and it killed a big part of the show for me:



im pretty sure steve buchemi is not 6'1 250

Yea I knew that. It did seem like weird casting for the character. Is that why they had him beat that guy at the craps table? To try and prove hes a bad ass? Because that guy was pretty big.

I love seeing how many characters pop up from old HBO series. So far in one episode Ive seen guys from Sopranos, OZ and Carnivale.

[Willmore]

Yea I knew that. It did seem like weird casting for the character. Is that why they had him beat that guy at the craps table? To try and prove hes a bad ass? Because that guy was pretty big.

I love seeing how many characters pop up from old HBO series. So far in one episode Ive seen guys from Sopranos, OZ and Carnivale.

Maybe the idea was that if we had a Gandolfini again, it would look too much like The Sopranos.

[Gutter]

Yea I knew that. It did seem like weird casting for the character. Is that why they had him beat that guy at the craps table? To try and prove hes a bad ass? Because that guy was pretty big.

I love seeing how many characters pop up from old HBO series. So far in one episode Ive seen guys from Sopranos, OZ and Carnivale.

ahhhh that guy was shitfaced haha.


thanx for the responses tho.....i thought it was capone that pulled the trigger on the other Chicago boss, but didn't really see his face.

Willmore, good points on the other topics......i wonder if thats going to be a theme throughout the series......the idea of the shops along the boardwalk being a vehicle to give insight into Nucky's frame of mind and to show his fears, hopes, etc. i'd be a fan of that.

[terry-c]

I didn't have a problem with the kill itself, I was merely saying that Scorsese used that pause before the shot to try to create suspense. It failed miserably, because there was no attachment to the person getting killed. People like that get killed all the time, that's fine, but Scorsese, as a director, should know when he is doing something that doesn't work, and can't possibly work. It would have been more appropriate for that character to be killed suddenly, without the reveal of the killer standing there with a gun to his head, that would have at least given the audience a sudden jolt.

I am not positive, but I am pretty sure they mentioned earlier in the episode how the old italian guy who gets killed didn't want to go into bootlegging and wanted to stay old school with restaurants and whores. I think that scene was more to do with the assasination of the "old gaurd" and the emergence of a younger, more impatient gangster, than it was about the character himself.

[Gutter]

I am not positive, but I am pretty sure they mentioned earlier in the episode how the old italian guy who gets killed didn't want to go into bootlegging and wanted to stay old school with restaurants and whores. I think that scene was more to do with the assasination of the "old gaurd" and the emergence of a younger, more impatient gangster, than it was about the character himself.

i think its that and showing that it was Capone killing the boss lets the audience know that Capone is going to be a part of this story as it evolves and its going to evolve rapidly.

it showed that the Capone character, even at a young age has.....enthusiasms.....enthusiasms.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5TDY1l7ZhV8/SgkexMe0OsI/AAAAAAAAAYk/S8fAQglroWk/s320/5.png

[Willmore]

I am not positive, but I am pretty sure they mentioned earlier in the episode how the old italian guy who gets killed didn't want to go into bootlegging and wanted to stay old school with restaurants and whores. I think that scene was more to do with the assasination of the "old gaurd" and the emergence of a younger, more impatient gangster, than it was about the character himself.

Oh yeah, I don't dispute that. Plot-wise, it makes perfect sense. I was speaking purely of of the stylistic way in which Scorsese chose to do it. Watch that scene again. Before the assassin shoots, there is a lingering pause that usually is there to create a sense of suspense in the audience. But that pause does not work and can not work without a connection between the audience and the character in peril. Scorsese was using a technique without fulfilling the prerequisites for it. I simply think that he is losing his touch.

[Furtherman]

"What the hell does motherfucker mean?"


Only a little plot movement on the show last night, but lots of great nudity!

[Willmore]

"What the hell does motherfucker mean?"


Only a little plot movement on the show last night, but lots of great nudity!

I can't agree. The Nucky mistress just doesn't do it for me. She's got a great figure and is beautiful, but something is off with her. I'm far more into Jimmy's wife or even the poor Irish chick.

[DOHO@HOME]

I can't agree. The Nucky mistress just doesn't do it for me. She's got a great figure and is beautiful, but something is off with her. I'm far more into Jimmy's wife or even the poor Irish chick.

Yeh I have to agree, but I'm really enjoying the natural titties.
Fuck the fake titties all natural it's what real men love.

[Willmore]

Yeh I have to agree, but I'm really enjoying the natural titties.
Fuck the fake titties all natural it's what real men love.

True.

I wonder if the casting director has to do a manual check.

[Snacks]

I can't agree. The Nucky mistress just doesn't do it for me. She's got a great figure and is beautiful, but something is off with her. I'm far more into Jimmy's wife or even the poor Irish chick.

Couldnt agree more. I cant stand Nuckys girl. I dont think shes that pretty either, her face is far from pretty. She does have a nice body!

I also agree about Jimmys wife. From episode one I thought she looked beautiful. The episode that she is cooking breakfast she has her curly hair down and messy. She looked incredible.

[DOHO@HOME]

True.

I wonder if the casting director has to do a manual check.

Wow best job ever.....honk honk:wink:

[Serpico1103]

Yeh I have to agree, but I'm really enjoying the natural titties.
Fuck the fake titties all natural it's what real men love.

I agree. It ruined "Spartacus- Blood and Sand" when you saw girls with blatant boob jobs.
Mistress- Paz de la Huerta
Jimmy's wife- Aleksa Palladino
Widowed Irish lass- Margaret Schroeder

[Judge Smails]

I agree. It ruined "Spartacus- Blood and Sand" when you saw girls with blatant boob jobs.
Mistress- Paz de la Huerta
Jimmy's wife- Aleksa Palladino
Widowed Irish lass- Margaret Schroeder

Margaret Schroeder is her character's name. The actress is Kelly MacDonald.

And, why no love for Gretchen Mol who plays Jimmy's topless showgirl mother? Based on this week's episode, she looks like she's going to be getting more involved in future episodes.

And, who based on their interactions (and something Nucky's brother said) could Nucky be Jimmy's real father?

http://2k3hd.com/nucleus/media/1/20090111-Gretchen%20Mol.jpg

[Serpico1103]

Margaret Schroeder is her character's name. The actress is Kelly MacDonald.

And, why no love for Gretchen Mol who plays Jimmy's topless showgirl mother? Based on this week's episode, she looks like she's going to be getting more involved in future episodes.

http://2k3hd.com/nucleus/media/1/20090111-Gretchen%20Mol.jpg

Right, sorry, I knew that, looked up some other images of her, but got all confused when I posted.

Haven't seen enough of Mol.

[thepaulo]

Right, sorry, I knew that, looked up some other images of her, but got all confused when I posted.

Haven't seen enough of Mol.

check out the Bettie Page movie if you want to see lots of nude Mol.

[realmenhatelife]

I have two main problems with the series, but I do like it overall. First, I think they get a little gimicky with the "Wow, weren't things different back then..." referances they're throwing in. On one hand you could say they're to give the show authenticity, but when you call enough attention to them they take me out of the show.

The second is Van Alden is shaping up to be a sociopath, which I dont like. Nucky really should be an ambivilant character, he abuses his position for his own gain and last episode he ordered someone's murder. The more of an antagonist you make Van Alden, the more of a protagonist Nucky becomes. They should both be more complex than that. Obviously we think prohibition was a dumb idea, but that shouldn't translate that only psychos were trying to enforce that law. Maybe it would've been interesting to see how a law got passed that everyone assumed noone would obey.

[Willmore]

Margaret Schroeder is her character's name. The actress is Kelly MacDonald.

And, why no love for Gretchen Mol who plays Jimmy's topless showgirl mother? Based on this week's episode, she looks like she's going to be getting more involved in future episodes.

And, who based on their interactions (and something Nucky's brother said) could Nucky be Jimmy's real father?

http://2k3hd.com/nucleus/media/1/20090111-Gretchen%20Mol.jpg

Doubt it. If he were, he would do everything in his power to stop the kid from going to war, and would be damn sure to get him the cushy job on his return, and not hand it over to some other young kid.

[CountryBob]

Digging the nudity - I like bush !!!!

[boobieman]

I think Buscemi is Jimmy's father...the conversation he had with his mother at the palm reader. Just got that feeling.

The show is ok...not great but watchable. And yes the nudity is great...Buscemi bitch has a nice body..big ass hips and ass but nice.

SSSYEYYAYAASSSSEE

[Snacks]

I dont think hes Jimmys father but he may be his brother. Maybe his father was banging Jimmys mom and it was kept a secret because his father never too responsibility. It seemed more like a brotherly thing then it was his kid thing.

[Earlshog]

I dont think hes Jimmys father but he may be his brother. Maybe his father was banging Jimmys mom and it was kept a secret because his father never too responsibility. It seemed more like a brotherly thing then it was his kid thing.

His brother (the Sheriff) said something to the effect of "I wonder if it was me would you have given me the same option"

[Snacks]

His brother (the Sheriff) said something to the effect of "I wonder if it was me would you have given me the same option"

and that was one of the reasons I thought they are brothers not father/son.

[boobieman]

Could be..sounds right..just thought they way he keeps looking at babies and thinking about kids...

SSEYYYAAAA

[TripleSkeet]

His brother (the Sheriff) said something to the effect of "I wonder if it was me would you have given me the same option"

Between that and the "agreement" the mother alluded to I also took it to mean he may be Jimmys father. That doesnt mean hes going to cater to the kid, especially since its apparent that they dont want anyone knowing this. I have a feeling that it will come out later down the line.

[Snoogans]

maybe he is jimmy's uncle? Like he had that convo cause Jimmy's mom is Nucky's sister?

[Zorro]

I am trying really hard to like this show, but they are not making it easy

[Gutter]

I am trying really hard to like this show, but they are not making it easy

no they're really not.....last episode was real slow....and i totally knew that Jimmy's new girl was gonna shoot herself in that scene. i think i'm too far in to bail out now, but for fecks sake some shit needs to go down already.

[Willmore]

no they're really not.....last episode was real slow....and i totally knew that Jimmy's new girl was gonna shoot herself in that scene. i think i'm too far in to bail out now, but for fecks sake some shit needs to go down already.

I often times had a similar feeling about the Sopranos, but they always had great writing to compensate for a lack of "classic mob action." This doesn't have the great writing, or great directing. All of the storylines are boring as fuck. I literally couldn't give two fucks about Jimmy's maimed prostitute. Other than her being pretty cute before she was slashed, she added nothing to the show. That was what, at least 20-30 minutes over the last two episodes?

[zildjian361]

no they're really not.....last episode was real slow....and i totally knew that Jimmy's new girl was gonna shoot herself in that scene. i think i'm too far in to bail out now, but for fecks sake some shit needs to go down already.

Im glad she shot herself, that scar was to ugly to look at. m

[Zorro]

Still stinks

[TheGameHHH]

Still stinks

yep. i hate to say it, but this show sucks

[Snacks]

i like the show but it is so slow paced and never really explains why they are doing things they are doing. its almost like they expect you to know everyone and who they are and what they were about already.

Another thing I dont get is the main character. His name is Nucky Thompson on the show but in real like he was Nucky Johnson. Why is his characters name changed but every other known character they use their real name from back then?

[PapaBear]

Another thing I dont get is the main character. His name is Nucky Thompson on the show but in real like he was Nucky Johnson. Why is his characters name changed but every other known character they use their real name from back then?
I guess the producers think Nucky is innocent.

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[NewYorkDragons80]

Anyone who checked out of this show should probably come back right about now. A helluva lot of action these past few episodes in the runup to the season finale. Fun fact: the real life person Nucky endorsed int he mayor's race is Diedrich Bader's great grandfather. Also, I suspect Richard Harrow may not be all he seems. He's such an interesting, sympathetic character that I wouldn't put it past the writers to throw us a swerve where's he's Rothstein's plant or something. I rewatched his first scenes, and he initiated the conversation with Jimmy, though Jimmy did help him. He also literally has 2 faces, so they might be setting him up for a poetic revelation that he's been secretly working against Jimmy. Definitely psyched for this show and I'm really enjoying it.

[boonanas]

Anyone who checked out of this show should probably come back right about now. A helluva lot of action these past few episodes in the runup to the season finale. Fun fact: the real life person Nucky endorsed int he mayor's race is Diedrich Bader's great grandfather. Also, I suspect Richard Harrow may not be all he seems. He's such an interesting, sympathetic character that I wouldn't put it past the writers to throw us a swerve where's he's Rothstein's plant or something. I rewatched his first scenes, and he initiated the conversation with Jimmy, though Jimmy did help him. He also literally has 2 faces, so they might be setting him up for a poetic revelation that he's been secretly working against Jimmy. Definitely psyched for this show and I'm really enjoying it.

Richard Harrow is definitely the best character on the show.

[KnoxHarrington]

i like the show but it is so slow paced and never really explains why they are doing things they are doing. its almost like they expect you to know everyone and who they are and what they were about already.

Another thing I dont get is the main character. His name is Nucky Thompson on the show but in real like he was Nucky Johnson. Why is his characters name changed but every other known character they use their real name from back then?

Probably so they can deviate from the real life of Nucky Johnson. Having a character with the real name of the real person sets certain expectations of what will happen to that character: I mean, in a sense, the drama of the Chicago scenes might be just a little blunted by the fact that you already know Al Capone will, eventually, come to be the boss over the whole thing. It does make it interesting in other ways, but using real names brings certain expectations.

I'm working my way through now; I'm up to episode 6. And I agree: it's a slow build, but it is starting to gel. I do have to say that seeing Van Alden flagellate himself at the end of the fifth episode was one of the most unintentionally funny things I've ever seen. Yeah, we get it, he's really religious, so he's crazy! That's a pretty tired cliche, actually.

[zildjian361]

Tonight should be a good one Jimmy;s character is great

[hanso]

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Been watching these three at a time and missed one. Had to back track to find this one

boardwalk.empire.s01e09 (last weeks).

[NewYorkDragons80]

Richard Harrow is definitely the best character on the show.

Anyone else notice a setup for Richard to hook up with Margaret? Def some sexual tension building there.

[newport king]

Fun fact: the real life person Nucky endorsed int he mayor's race is Diedrich Bader's great grandfather.

that wasn't fun at all.

[TheGameHHH]

tonight.......i bet nothing happens. again

[boonanas]

tonight.......i bet nothing happens. again

You mean like the 'nothing' that happened last week where Chalky choked a guy to death, Darmity (sp?) shoots a guy execution style, Darmity's wife and art shop girl make out? Do me a favor and don't watch the show anymore. Thanks.

[TheGameHHH]

You mean like the 'nothing' that happened last week where Chalky choked a guy to death, Darmity (sp?) shoots a guy execution style, Darmity's wife and art shop girl make out? Do me a favor and don't watch the show anymore. Thanks.

that's exactly what i mean, nothing

[Dell]

really enjoying this series...watch Dexter live and then watch Boardwalk Empire...

if the football game is exiting, I'll stream Boardwalk on HBOgo...

[hanso]

Why am I reading this? I'm 4 going on 5 ep's behind.

[extracheese]

What are the writers thinking?

Of course Van Aldens character makes for good television. But can such
a mental patient actually rise to such heights in the IRS and murder someone
in front of 50 people and get away with it?

Next week is last episode of the season. BE has been picked up for a second
season, so we will have to wait until next October to find out what the writers
have in store for these people.

[Dell]

What are the writers thinking?

Of course Van Aldens character makes for good television. But can such
a mental patient actually rise to such heights in the IRS and murder someone
in front of 50 people and get away with it?

Next week is last episode of the season. BE has been picked up for a second
season, so we will have to wait until next October to find out what the writers
have in store for these people.

agreed, I believe the murder to be a bit too far fetched...very disappointed in that decision...

[Zorro]

Why am I reading this? I'm 4 going on 5 ep's behind.

It won't matter. There's so little development you can't tell episode 5 from 2

[zildjian361]

Surprised Jimmy's wife lesbo thing didn't work out. Glad to see Margeret standing up to Knucky, and that Fed is a fuckin Nut.

[Snacks]

for a show that is almost 60 minutes every week they sure as hell leave lots of questions and take forever to get to things.

It was nice to see who Jimmys father is. I dont think anyone saw that coming. I knew it wasnt nucky but 41 year age gap, wow!

The irs guy is out of his mind and it all seems a little over the top to be believable. but then again back then people were even more nuts that were very religious that maybe it could have been like that?

[spoon]

Did the Fed drown Justjon this week?

[Philly Franko]

What Happened last 5 weeks or so...

[spoon]

You missed episodes or so...

[TripleSkeet]

for a show that is almost 60 minutes every week they sure as hell leave lots of questions and take forever to get to things.

It was nice to see who Jimmys father is. I dont think anyone saw that coming. I knew it wasnt nucky but 41 year age gap, wow!

The irs guy is out of his mind and it all seems a little over the top to be believable. but then again back then people were even more nuts that were very religious that maybe it could have been like that?

It wouldnt surprise me for a minute to learn that a bunch of black people in the 1920s from the backwoods didnt report a white guy for killing another white guy right in front of them.

[spoon]

You missed 5 episodes or so...

not sure where the 5 went?

[Zorro]

What Happened last 5 weeks or so...

Nothing that couldn't be summed up in 10 minutes

[KnoxHarrington]

It wouldnt surprise me for a minute to learn that a bunch of black people in the 1920s from the backwoods didnt report a white guy for killing another white guy right in front of them.

Exactly, especially if said white guy was a high-ranking Federal official. And his departure, with his gun and badge drawn, was pretty goddam threatening.

I don't know what they're doing with this character. He's getting so completely nuts it's becoming increasingly hard to believe that he wouldn't get bounced out of the IRS on his ass.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I've been saving up episodes of Boardwalk Empire to watch on a flight. I'm just trying to remember the point I need to start re-watching at.

The last episode I saw ENDED with the fat guy that Nucky hooked up with cash/favors getting a handjob from the floozy he was trying to impress in his car and then a dude from the Jimmy/Capone shootout in the woods stumbled out.

I want to say that was the end of Episode 4, but I'm not positive. Any help?

[Willmore]

I've been saving up episodes of Boardwalk Empire to watch on a flight. I'm just trying to remember the point I need to start re-watching at.

The last episode I saw ENDED with the fat guy that Nucky hooked up with cash/favors getting a handjob from the floozy he was trying to impress in his car and then a dude from the Jimmy/Capone shootout in the woods stumbled out.

I want to say that was the end of Episode 4, but I'm not positive. Any help?

You'd have to be more specific. There are fat guys having handjobs every episodes, and the shootouts in the woods are every other episode.

[pennington]

There are fat guys having handjobs every episode

Receiving ...or giving?

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/images/vito.jpg

[NewYorkDragons80]

I've been saving up episodes of Boardwalk Empire to watch on a flight. I'm just trying to remember the point I need to start re-watching at.

The last episode I saw ENDED with the fat guy that Nucky hooked up with cash/favors getting a handjob from the floozy he was trying to impress in his car and then a dude from the Jimmy/Capone shootout in the woods stumbled out.

I want to say that was the end of Episode 4, but I'm not positive. Any help?

That's either the first or second episode

[Jujubees2]

That's either the first or second episode

Yeah, it was the second episode.

[pennington]

I dropped my HBO a few years ago. When Boardwalk Empire inevitably comes out on DVD, would it be worth it to buy? As much as I want to see this, everything I've read (here and elsewhere) makes it sound like it's wordy and moves slowly.

BTW, for anybody who misses a week, the Star-Ledger does a weekly re-cap of each episode.

[Gutter]

I dropped my HBO a few years ago. When Boardwalk Empire inevitably comes out on DVD, would it be worth it to buy? As much as I want to see this, everything I've read (here and elsewhere) makes it sound like it's wordy and moves slowly.

BTW, for anybody who misses a week, the Star-Ledger does a weekly re-cap of each episode.

it does move slow, but it makes the action that much better when it happens. there is no denying that its an excellent show.....most of the people that think its bad because its slow are ppl that can't spend 2 seconds without sending a text or playing angry birds for the millionth time.

[Philly Franko]

Nothing that couldn't be summed up in 10 minutes

Now I can catch up on Nucky and da boys....

[Zorro]

it does move slow, but it makes the action that much better when it happens. there is no denying that its an excellent show.....most of the people that think its bad because its slow are ppl that can't spend 2 seconds without sending a text or playing angry birds for the millionth time.

It is okay, but excellent...nah. The first episode began with great promise and has been a disappointment since. They need to tighten up the writing. The whole crazy IRS agent thing is just silly.

[Gutter]

It is okay, but excellent...nah. The first episode began with great promise and has been a disappointment since. They need to tighten up the writing. The whole crazy IRS agent thing is just silly.

i think its that good....i think it'll get that much better too next season......the IRS agent is terrifying.....the whole drowning his partner thing is a bit far fetched, but i think ppl watching this show forget that its the twenties.....no cell phones, no internet, hell DNA testing wasn't even available until the 70's. you could murder a dude and they wouldn't even find the body for months if ever. not to mention, he killed that guy in front of fifty BLACK religious people......i can't imagine any of them would walk anywhere near a police station even if they had witnessed a murder in that time. I think a lot of people are judging the show while forgetting the time period in which its set.

[Willmore]

It is okay, but excellent...nah. The first episode began with great promise and has been a disappointment since. They need to tighten up the writing. The whole crazy IRS agent thing is just silly.

You don't see the complexity?

He's a conflicted deeply religious man who bases his life and career on the scripture. Facing some mild push back from his superiors, he ends up committing what, 4, 5 deadly sins? What's so unbelievable?


But yeah, this show has a serious lack of good writing, directing, perhaps the source material wasn't as strong. HBO is on a cold streak. The Pacific was good, but it was nowhere near the level of Band of Brothers. The last few seasons of Entourage have been nowhere near the first few. Eastbound & Down is enjoyable, as is Bored to Death, but they seem like the exception. True Blood goes from silly to sillier. Treme was very good, but not as good as The Wire.

Cable is replacing HBO as the art house series destination.

[Gutter]

You don't see the complexity?

He's a conflicted deeply religious man who bases his life and career on the scripture. Facing some mild push back from his superiors, he ends up committing what, 4, 5 deadly sins? What's so unbelievable?


But yeah, this show has a serious lack of good writing, directing, perhaps the source material wasn't as strong. HBO is on a cold streak. The Pacific was good, but it was nowhere near the level of Band of Brothers. The last few seasons of Entourage have been nowhere near the first few. Eastbound & Down is enjoyable, as is Bored to Death, but they seem like the exception. True Blood goes from silly to sillier. Treme was very good, but not as good as The Wire.

Cable is replacing HBO as the art house series destination.


fair points, but i am very interested in watching him and Nukey's ex make a shaddy ass deal with each other. She gets support from him for knocking her up and she keeps quiet about whose it is while dishing out dirt on Nucky. He's gonna go rogue and it'll lead to an epic battle between him and James.

I think one of the mistakes they made during the first season though was getting away from the Mr. Torio, Jimmy, and Al Capone story line. They had it building and building and then they did one scene where Jimmy feels left out because he doesn't speak Italian and then next thing, he's back helping Nucky.

[Willmore]

fair points, but i am very interested in watching him and Nukey's ex make a shaddy ass deal with each other. She gets support from him for knocking her up and she keeps quiet about whose it is while dishing out dirt on Nucky. He's gonna go rogue and it'll lead to an epic battle between him and James.

I think one of the mistakes they made during the first season though was getting away from the Mr. Torio, Jimmy, and Al Capone story line. They had it building and building and then they did one scene where Jimmy feels left out because he doesn't speak Italian and then next thing, he's back helping Nucky.

That's the thing - they put themselves in the corner by not making it a fictitious account, but basing it on that non-fiction book about Atlantic City in that era.

I would much rather watch a show about Chicago in the 20s-30s, Sopranos style, rather than this weird show.

[CountryBob]

I think that the black Preacher would have told someone about the murder. :unsure:

[Gutter]

I think that the black Preacher would have told someone about the murder. :unsure:

he might have....but its not as far fetched as ppl are making it out to be. I'm critical of the whole situation as well, but i dont think its too ridiculous to think that religious black people in the 20's wouldn't still be terrified of any white authority figure.

[Snacks]

I dropped my HBO a few years ago. When Boardwalk Empire inevitably comes out on DVD, would it be worth it to buy? As much as I want to see this, everything I've read (here and elsewhere) makes it sound like it's wordy and moves slowly.

BTW, for anybody who misses a week, the Star-Ledger does a weekly re-cap of each episode.

its good but slow. its the Sopranos in the 1920's but a little slower and not as good.

[zildjian361]

Thought it was decent. dug the Nucky's suits and Jimmy's character,who happened to go to school with my manager at my job. it's already been picked up for next season, so we wait and see.

[furie]

this show is starting to lose me

[Willmore]

this show is starting to lose me

Good thing it finished the first season just in time for your attention span.

[Zorro]

You don't see the complexity?

He's a conflicted deeply religious man who bases his life and career on the scripture. Facing some mild push back from his superiors, he ends up committing what, 4, 5 deadly sins? What's so unbelievable?


But yeah, this show has a serious lack of good writing, directing, perhaps the source material wasn't as strong. HBO is on a cold streak. The Pacific was good, but it was nowhere near the level of Band of Brothers. The last few seasons of Entourage have been nowhere near the first few. Eastbound & Down is enjoyable, as is Bored to Death, but they seem like the exception. True Blood goes from silly to sillier. Treme was very good, but not as good as The Wire.

Cable is replacing HBO as the art house series destination.

Agree with the second paragraph, but with the first I think it's a total misunderstanding. Having spent a number of years in the military and running up against these super religous types I can tell you they are not that complicated nor are they conflicted. They believe they are right and forge forward. The whole self flagellation thing seemed to me to be cooked up by someone who has a viewpoint, but no experience.

[Joe Pietaro]

Awesome first season. Can't wait for the second. Starting to catch some repeats late at night now and making some observations that I missed the first time around. For example, lots of projectile vomiting in this series (Eli, The Com, etc.).

[hanso]

In Ep 8 the agent opens mail with money a drawer full. Then uses that money. Who was that money to/from? Jimmy to his wife? Nuck said he should send her some but Jimmy never said that he did just letters.

[Snacks]

In Ep 8 the agent opens mail with money a drawer full. Then uses that money. Who was that money to/from? Jimmy to his wife? Nuck said he should send her some but Jimmy never said that he did just letters.

yes, the agent was getting all the mail that was going to Jimmys house to see if he could find jimmy. All those envelopes were meant for Jimmys wife.

[hanso]

yes, the agent was getting all the mail that was going to Jimmys house to see if he could find jimmy. All those envelopes were meant for Jimmys wife.

Ty thought so, just watched Ep9. Seemed odd that Jimmy never said he did after Noch said he should.

[Space Edge]

Saw a link to this while browsing Reddit ,pretty cool

Boardwalk Empire Visual FX

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/18275127" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/18275127">Boardwalk Empire VFX Breakdowns of Season 1</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user5251295">Brainstorm Digital</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

[PapaBear]

The transition to the headboard banging scene was fucking funny!

[Snacks]

The transition to the headboard banging scene was fucking funny!

Yes it was.

Anyone else disturbed by Jimmy and his mothers relationship? Their relationship has always seemed a little strange more like shes his mistress rather then his mother. Now its starting to make sense why it seems that way b/c it is 1 fucked up situation and it got even stranger in this new eps!

[Jujubees2]

Yes it was.

Anyone else disturbed by Jimmy and his mothers relationship? Their relationship has always seemed a little strange more like shes his mistress rather then his mother. Now its starting to make sense why it seems that way b/c it is 1 fucked up situation and it got even stranger in this new eps!

You mean not everyone's Mom kissed their "winkie" when they were babies?

[CountryBob]

You mean not everyone's Mom kissed their "winkie" when they were babies?

My Mom stopped kisisng mine when I became a man and went off to college.

[Jujubees2]

My Mom stopped kisisng mine when I became a man and went off to college.

Sorry to hear that Bob.

[furie]

i just don't find the characters to be beliveable. i think i'm going to give up on this show.

[boobieman]

Finally caught the new episode of Boardwalk...it was pretty good, but

The whole thing with the mom telling lesbowife about kissing the winkey..WTF..that fucked me up for the entire episode..I guess they are trying to show the mother like a control freak. Just do that later in the show so I don't have that first thing out...WOW.

I like that everyone is out to fuck over Nucky.

I'm confused on one issue..who was drugging the commodore? The mother or was it actually the maid?

SEYEYYAYAYAAAA

[Snacks]

Finally caught the new episode of Boardwalk...it was pretty good, but

The whole thing with the mom telling lesbowife about kissing the winkey..WTF..that fucked me up for the entire episode..I guess they are trying to show the mother like a control freak. Just do that later in the show so I don't have that first thing out...WOW.

I like that everyone is out to fuck over Nucky.

I'm confused on one issue..who was drugging the commodore? The mother or was it actually the maid?

SEYEYYAYAYAAAA

the maid

[underdog]

Finally caught the new episode of Boardwalk...it was pretty good, but

The whole thing with the mom telling lesbowife about kissing the winkey..WTF..that fucked me up for the entire episode..I guess they are trying to show the mother like a control freak. Just do that later in the show so I don't have that first thing out...WOW.

I like that everyone is out to fuck over Nucky.

I'm confused on one issue..who was drugging the commodore? The mother or was it actually the maid?

SEYEYYAYAYAAAA

I thought it was the mother, but they blamed the maid.

[Jujubees2]

I thought it was the mother, but they blamed the maid.

Didn't Nucky give the maid some money and tell her to get lost?

[Judge Smails]

I thought it was the mother, but they blamed the maid.

I think it was shot to let the viewer originally think it was the mother in order to create suspense but in the end it was revealed to be the maid. The maid pretty much confessed. Then Nucky decided to let her go as long as she got out of town in order to avoid a problem with the blacks with the election coming up. This pissed the Commodore off and precipitated the scheme to take down Nucky.

[underdog]

Didn't Nucky give the maid some money and tell her to get lost?

I think it was shot to let the viewer originally think it was the mother in order to create suspense but in the end it was revealed to be the maid. The maid pretty much confessed. Then Nucky decided to let her go as long as she got out of town in order to avoid a problem with the blacks with the election coming up. This pissed the Commodore off and precipitated the scheme to take down Nucky.

I took it as she paid her to keep her mouth shut about the wife and to just act like she did it and leave.

But you guys are probably right.

[Earlshog]

My Mom stopped kisisng mine when I became a man and went off to college.

I thought that was your sister? :innocent:

[CountryBob]

I thought that was your sister? :innocent:

The same

[PigShitIrish]

On an aside, if you like this watching stuff about this era, Ken Burns Prohibition documentary is debuting on PBS this Sunday.

http://www.findinternettv.com/images/movies/k/ken-burns-prohibition.jpg

[boobieman]

On an aside, if you like this watching stuff about this era, Ken Burns Prohibition documentary is debuting on PBS this Sunday.

http://www.findinternettv.com/images/movies/k/ken-burns-prohibition.jpg

What time that be on Blood...Does PBS have on Demand?

Looked it up 8:00 PM in the NY area..

SSYEYEYYAAAA

[zildjian361]

Fucking Great

[hanso]

Ep1 funny part is when the bed headboard hits the wall and the lead up to that. Won't give it away.



Semi Spoiler Alert

[cougarjake13]

damn you


damn you all to hell

[Gutter]

Best episode of the season last night.

[StanUpshaw]

I don't remember anything from last season, and nothing makes any sense.

Why did everybody turn against Nucky?
Who came after Jimmy, and how did he know they would?
What was the Chalky stuff about? Can he read or not? Are we supposed to think he's some imposter? An imposter of who?

[StanUpshaw]

Chalky sitting in the shed and whittling bitterly was bizarrely hilarious.

[Snacks]

Chalky is not happy and didnt like that uppity guy dating his daughter!

I think hes tired of Nook and hes about to beat someone soon to send a message!

[Judge Smails]

When Nucky told him to "be a good boy" I was half expecting him to give Nucky a beat down McDonald's cashier style.

[Gutter]

When Nucky told him to "be a good boy" I was half expecting him to give Nucky a beat down McDonald's cashier style.

I thought that scotch glass was gonna go flying across the room.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Poor Commodore looked so helpless when Jimmy's mother started slapping him repeatedly

[smiler grogan]

So far I am liking these episodes more than last seasons.

Gretchen Mol has a fantastic body.

Not very enlightening but whatever.

[TripleSkeet]

I don't remember anything from last season, and nothing makes any sense.

Why did everybody turn against Nucky?
Who came after Jimmy, and how did he know they would?
What was the Chalky stuff about? Can he read or not? Are we supposed to think he's some imposter? An imposter of who?

Once the Commodore realized he wasnt dying he decided he wanted to take over Atlantic City again, and use his son as his muscle and 2nd in command.

Im not sure what you mean with the "came after Jimmy" question. What part are you talking about?

Chalky cant read. Hes basically a tough southern illiterate that made alot of money through Nucky. Not sure what you mean by imposter. Right now hes freaking out because he wants revenge on the klansman but cant do anything until Nucky has his charges dropped and is back in full control of AC. Besides that shit hes got the old ladies bitching to him hes not doing anything, and now feels disrespected by his wife.

I have a feeling youre gonna see a vicious fucking Chalky once the charges against Nucky get dropped. Once hes in control he can let Chalky go after the klan as he can make sure Chalky doesnt get arrested.

[StanUpshaw]

Once the Commodore realized he wasnt dying he decided he wanted to take over Atlantic City again, and use his son as his muscle and 2nd in command.

Im not sure what you mean with the "came after Jimmy" question. What part are you talking about?

Chalky cant read. Hes basically a tough southern illiterate that made alot of money through Nucky. Not sure what you mean by imposter. Right now hes freaking out because he wants revenge on the klansman but cant do anything until Nucky has his charges dropped and is back in full control of AC. Besides that shit hes got the old ladies bitching to him hes not doing anything, and now feels disrespected by his wife.

I have a feeling youre gonna see a vicious fucking Chalky once the charges against Nucky get dropped. Once hes in control he can let Chalky go after the klan as he can make sure Chalky doesnt get arrested.

Those questions were from two weeks ago, after the episode when Chalky went to jail. The interaction with that asshole in the jail made it sound like he knew Chalky and was implying that Chalky was hiding something. And it was bizarre that his wife would give him a book. Doesn't she have to know he's illiterate?

As far as the guys who came after Jimmy in that episode (2 weeks ago)...I think we learned they belonged to that Italian boss in NYC. I still don't know why they came after Jimmy, or why he was ready for them.

[CountryBob]

Omar comin

[TripleSkeet]

Those questions were from two weeks ago, after the episode when Chalky went to jail. The interaction with that asshole in the jail made it sound like he knew Chalky and was implying that Chalky was hiding something. And it was bizarre that his wife would give him a book. Doesn't she have to know he's illiterate?

As far as the guys who came after Jimmy in that episode (2 weeks ago)...I think we learned they belonged to that Italian boss in NYC. I still don't know why they came after Jimmy, or why he was ready for them.

Oh my bad. I think he realized they were eyeing him up while he was getting paid, and figured rather then sit in his room and wait, hed take a walk and see if his suspicions were correct.

As far as being illiterate, I only knew of one grown man being illiterate when I was younger, and the only reason I knew is my grandfather told me. He knew the guy when the guy was a kid. Once he told me I noticed how he would do stuff so he wouldnt tip people off. Pretend to read a receipt, squint alot like he couldnt see and ask someone if they can make out what something says, the way they fake it is amazing. Im sure it was alot easier back then. Notice how only one person in that cell could actually read.

[hanso]

http://i.imgur.com/fD9L6.gif (http://imgur.com/fD9L6)

Uncle Miltie no likey





http://i.imgur.com/9HIck.gif (http://imgur.com/9HIck)

Look at the grouse

[hanso]

http://i32.fastpic.ru/big/2011/1127/a8/615ec429cd92beb094d174a9aefd5ca8.gif
Nucky Thompson is pissed

[Kevin]

Caught up with the season.

Its amazing how we take for granted modern medicine and other stuff.

People back then were filthy and always in fear of something.


Polio must have been such a scary thing for people.

I think the real disease that is well known that scares me the worst these days in ALS.

Just slowly taking every part of you.

Granted Cancer, dementia/ Alzheimer can do that shit too but ALS is just vicious.

[underdog]

I can't believe they killed off the sexiest part of the show.

[StanUpshaw]

I can't believe they killed off the sexiest part of the show.

Wait...I thought the doctor said that she'd live, but might not walk.

[underdog]

Wait...I thought the doctor said that she'd live, but might not walk.

:laugh:

[TripleSkeet]

Wait...I thought the doctor said that she'd live, but might not walk.

BRAVO.

[Jujubees2]

Wait...I thought the doctor said that she'd live, but might not walk.

Stan,

Here's a job opening you might consider

Man Wanted for Fondling Kids in Queens (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45490184/ns/local_news-new_york_ny/)

Oops, from the headline I thought it was a help wanted ad but I see it's just another perv in Queens. Speaking of which Stan, where were you on or about Nov. 7 at 8 a.m. and Nov. 25 on 55th Avenue at 4 p.m.?

[Gutter]

I can't believe they killed off the sexiest part of the show.

god damn I know. That chick is super hot and always great in all her scenes. The good thing about it though is that Jimmy will just loose his shit and become completely ruthless now. He'll leave his son with his mother and just fucking tear shit up. Whole lotta murderin gonna go down.

[CountryBob]

god damn I know. That chick is super hot and always great in all her scenes. The good thing about it though is that Jimmy will just loose his shit and become completely ruthless now. He'll leave his son with his mother and just fucking tear shit up. Whole lotta murderin gonna go down.

She enjoyed the tongue of a woman - I will miss her immensely!

[ozzie]

He can now get with his mother and just fucking tear that shit up. Whole lotta incest gonna go down.

Fixed it for ya.

[zildjian361]

great and should get better

[Zorro]

Monday nght I was driving home listening to some sports radio station on XM when some schmuck calls in and says "oh man I can't believe they killed Jimmy Darmody's wife" Host says "huh" guy goes "on Boardwalk Empire last night". I screamed "ASSHOLE" you ruined it for me.

Serves me right for listening to Mad Dog radio

[CountryBob]

Woah, what a crazy change in the past few weeks for Jimmy. Wife murdered, he kills his father and a flashback reveals why he and his mom have such a strange relationship - they have fucked before!

[TripleSkeet]

Woah, what a crazy change in the past few weeks for Jimmy. Wife murdered, he kills his father and a flashback reveals why he and his mom have such a strange relationship - they have fucked before!

I always thought they kind of overly hinted at that.

[Judge Smails]

She's a certified wack-adoo and the svengali behind the scenes that has orchestrated the events that brought about everything of import that happened this entire season. Also she said she used to kiss his "pee-pee" when he was little. I remembered this as she was taking Jimmy's son up to bed. Everyone around her is essentially Joe Paterno to her Jerry Sandusky.

[Snacks]

Woah, what a crazy change in the past few weeks for Jimmy. Wife murdered, he kills his father and a flashback reveals why he and his mom have such a strange relationship - they have fucked before!

"its ok, its ok, nothing wrong..."

are you fucking kidding me? she is 1 fucked up, crazy bitch. I was so shocked yet knew it was coming. not only did it explain a lot about their relationship it also explained why he went into the military.

[Rhah]

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that is awesome !!!

[Rhah]

that is awesome !!!

Not to non-Boardwalk Empire up this thread too much, his other video about having one line on the Sopranos is hilarious too.

[Kevin]

that is awesome !!!

The broad was quite bangable too.

[NewYorkDragons80]

"its ok, its ok, nothing wrong..."

are you fucking kidding me? she is 1 fucked up, crazy bitch. I was so shocked yet knew it was coming. not only did it explain a lot about their relationship it also explained why he went into the military.

Maybe I'm naive, but I always assumed Jimmy was just a big momma's boy. I only vaguely suspected anything like what we saw. Is that a television first?

[Judge Smails]

Maybe I'm naive, but I always assumed Jimmy was just a big momma's boy. I only vaguely suspected anything like what we saw. Is that a television first?


There was an episode of Who's the Boss? where Tony Danza and Alyssa Milano dry humped but that only aired once during sweeps and was never added to the syndication run.

[OGC]

There was an episode of Who's the Boss? where Tony Danza and Alyssa Milano dry humped but that only aired once during sweeps and was never added to the syndication run.


I have that episode on my cellphone. It helps pass the time when I'm stuck in traffic.

[CountryBob]

I have that episode on my cellphone. It helps pass the time when I'm stuck in traffic.

:clap:

[spoon]

I can't believe they killed off the sexiest part of the show.

ah, udog misses the scalped old man!

[underdog]

ah, udog misses the scalped old man!

It's true. :glurps:

[hanso]

Looks like last one Sun.

[spoon]

It's true. :glurps:

funny how the show got much dirtier just after Stan's gross and hilarious post to you

dammit stan, it's your fault!

[NewYorkDragons80]

I knew somebody had to die, but I really thought they would kill off Eli. Especially when you saw Nucky's exasperation on finding out Horvitz killed Angela. Aren't there rules against that sort of shit?

[Judge Smails]

I can't believe they killed off the sexiest part of the show.
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This show is going to suck now. All that building up for what? I was not a fan of the ending of this season.

[Snacks]

This show is going to suck now. All that building up for what? I was not a fan of the ending of this season.

I agree. This eps was probably the best of the 2 seasons but they killed off the best character. Nuckys wife is fucked up for giving away his land to the church. It always amazes me when you hear stories from back then and sometimes now when the wife gives lots of money or anything of value to the church like it will buy away their sins. If there is a God how could any one believe that he would care about the rich and what they give? I would think hes God he has no use for money.

Did anyone else think this eps felt very Soprano like? The entire time I watched it I felt like I was watching season finales of the Sopranos years ago.

[CountryBob]

I agree. This eps was probably the best of the 2 seasons but they killed off the best character. Nuckys wife is fucked up for giving away his land to the church. It always amazes me when you hear stories from back then and sometimes now when the wife gives lots of money or anything of value to the church like it will buy away their sins. If there is a God how could any one believe that he would care about the rich and what they give? I would think hes God he has no use for money.

Did anyone else think this eps felt very Soprano like? The entire time I watched it I felt like I was watching season finales of the Sopranos years ago.

Its her way of getting her sins washed away...

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I agree. This eps was probably the best of the 2 seasons but they killed off the best character. Nuckys wife is fucked up for giving away his land to the church. It always amazes me when you hear stories from back then and sometimes now when the wife gives lots of money or anything of value to the church like it will buy away their sins. If there is a God how could any one believe that he would care about the rich and what they give? I would think hes God he has no use for money.

Did anyone else think this eps felt very Soprano like? The entire time I watched it I felt like I was watching season finales of the Sopranos years ago.

yea, it had a bit of that......I just don't understand at all the end of the episode....I mean, you build this character up, get him to a position of power, he's got a plan, he's got followers, then throw the wrench in the gears in the way of his wife's murder and we don't even get a chance to see him become unhinged and finally take what he wants. just fucking stupid. i though maybe he would survive and Nucky wouldn't have finished him off, but man he's dead as shit and I just don't think the show will ever be as good again.

What's worse is that next season, I'm guessing, they'll do the whole thing that shows like to do to keep giving a paycheck to an actor where, now that he's dead, we'll have full episodes of flashbacks so he's still around. I hate when they do that.

[NewYorkDragons80]

The best character on the show is alive and well. Richard Harrow is back at the house, remember?

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The best character on the show is alive and well. Richard Harrow is back at the house, remember?

well yea he's pretty damn good. But where was he when Jimmy needed a kick ass sniper to save him from the safety of the wooded area near by with one shot to Eli's dome?

[Snacks]

yea, it had a bit of that......I just don't understand at all the end of the episode....I mean, you build this character up, get him to a position of power, he's got a plan, he's got followers, then throw the wrench in the gears in the way of his wife's murder and we don't even get a chance to see him become unhinged and finally take what he wants. just fucking stupid. i though maybe he would survive and Nucky wouldn't have finished him off, but man he's dead as shit and I just don't think the show will ever be as good again.

What's worse is that next season, I'm guessing, they'll do the whole thing that shows like to do to keep giving a paycheck to an actor where, now that he's dead, we'll have full episodes of flashbacks so he's still around. I hate when they do that.

thats what i was hoping for too. i wanted to see jimmy go ape shit. it looked like they were going that way when he went to the kkk "meeting" and then the fake suicide of the treasurer. but that was it, he went down without a fight.

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thats what i was hoping for too. i wanted to see jimmy go ape shit. it looked like they were going that way when he went to the kkk "meeting" and then the fake suicide of the treasurer. but that was it, he went down without a fight.

This shouldn't have happened until the end of the third season at least.....I am and have been interested in seeing Luciano and Capone's rise to power and all, but they could have done so much more with Jimmy. This is moving the story line backwards as far as I'm concerned.

[Snacks]

This shouldn't have happened until the end of the third season at least.....I am and have been interested in seeing Luciano and Capone's rise to power and all, but they could have done so much more with Jimmy. This is moving the story line backwards as far as I'm concerned.

I just read an article that said they Capone may be making an appearance very soon. It was pretty obvious when Van Alden rented a home in Cicero Ill.

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I just read an article that said they Capone may be making an appearance very soon. It was pretty obvious when Van Alden rented a home in Cicero Ill.

How did they mean "an appearance"? he's been a part of the show for a while now.

[Snacks]

How did they mean "an appearance"? he's been a part of the show for a while now.

I guess they were talking about the real Capone about how he became who he was not the punk they show now? Thats just my guess? I have read a few times over the past 2 seasons how Capone is played off character to how he was. Like he was more business man not thug and punk like, like they portrayed him so far?

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I guess they were talking about the real Capone about how he became who he was not the punk they show now? Thats just my guess? I have read a few times over the past 2 seasons how Capone is played off character to how he was. Like he was more business man not thug and punk like, like they portrayed him so far?

Could be. I'm still going to watch the show next season, so that wouldn't be a terrible replacement plot line. It just doesn't make sense to me even after reading about how the writers felt like there was not much left to explore in Jimmy's character. I thought there was plenty they could have done, but the one interesting part that I read is that it now makes Nuckey a legit gangster.

[Snacks]

Could be. I'm still going to watch the show next season, so that wouldn't be a terrible replacement plot line. It just doesn't make sense to me even after reading about how the writers felt like there was not much left to explore in Jimmy's character. I thought there was plenty they could have done, but the one interesting part that I read is that it now makes Nuckey a legit gangster.

that has been 1 of the main reasons i have read why they killed him off and why they did it they way they did it. hes no longer a half gangster he is 100% committed to the gangsta life! i guess now nucky can become the crazy mother fucker we thought jimmy was going to become?

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that has been 1 of the main reasons i have read why they killed him off and why they did it they way they did it. hes no longer a half gangster he is 100% committed to the gangsta life! i guess now nucky can become the crazy mother fucker we thought jimmy was going to become?

We might see that....but I still have a terrible feeling that I'll now be watching this show just to see how bad it gets without Jimmy.

[CountryBob]

They will bring in some other to fill in his place. I think the Irish strongman will turn on Nucky, take the maid with him and be in the bootlegging business.

[Dell]

the only time that a HBO series season ender didn't leave me excited about the next season...I'll have to get re-energized because I liked the Jimmy story line best (minus the last two episodes)

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They will bring in some other to fill in his place. I think the Irish strongman will turn on Nucky, take the maid with him and be in the bootlegging business.

i would hate that.....I'd just be wondering what the purpose of killing Jimmy off if the Irishman was just going to follow the same path anyway?

[Dell]

i would hate that.....I'd just be wondering what the purpose of killing Jimmy off if the Irishman was just going to follow the same path anyway?

probably because he screwed his mom...the new Irishman hasn't done that

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probably because he screwed his mom...the new Irishman hasn't done that

yea, but why have Jimmy go through all that and then get shot, only to have the Irish dude basically live out the exact same plot line all over again?

[Snacks]

yea, but why have Jimmy go through all that and then get shot, only to have the Irish dude basically live out the exact same plot line all over again?

The showrunner mentioned that they are casting a new young actor for an important role. They are looking for someone who looks or is like a James Cagney type of guy, whatever that means.

[Dell]

yea, but why have Jimmy go through all that and then get shot, only to have the Irish dude basically live out the exact same plot line all over again?

yeah, I agree with you...I don't think they'll repeat the storyline again

I think they are going to make Nucky a hardass gangster which I don't think will work...he should have stayed the brainy gangster like Rothstein

since a lot of this is historically based, I wonder how much of the Jimmy line was real...I don't want to read up on it since it might ruin my viewing pleasure

I'm pretty disenchanted right now, so I may be doing some reading real soon...

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yeah, I agree with you...I don't think they'll repeat the storyline again

I think they are going to make Nucky a hardass gangster which I don't think will work...he should have stayed the brainy gangster like Rothstein

since a lot of this is historically based, I wonder how much of the Jimmy line was real...I don't want to read up on it since it might ruin my viewing pleasure

I'm pretty disenchanted right now, so I may be doing some reading real soon...

I would like to see if the Darmody character was real as well.

[Judge Smails]

The show is about Nucky and his "Empire". Jimmy had served his purpose in driving Nucky to be a true gangster as has been mentioned. If you remember back in season one it was Jimmy who started Nucky down this road by hijacking Rothstein's shippment. He told Nucky then that he would have to commit to the life and that he couldn't be a halfway gangster (I'm paraphrasing). What better way to show that he's completely gone over then to have Nucky kill the very kid that he effectively raised as his own child?

This goes a lot towards explaining Margaret's betrayal with the land. After Nucky told her how much he loves her and the kids and she sees him playing the doting father taching her daughter to walk (coveniently outside her window) he goes and offs Jimmy who was his previouse surrogate child. Sure she says she believed him that Jimmy reenlisted and shipped out but she knows what's up and she doesn't trust Nucky, and rightly so.

[spoon]

I knew somebody had to die, but I really thought they would kill off Eli. Especially when you saw Nucky's exasperation on finding out Horvitz killed Angela. Aren't there rules against that sort of shit?

great point, but I just think Nucky took to heart the kid (pretty much his own) stabbing him in the back with his biggest rival in town. sure Eli did it too, but his false claim of coming hat in hand tying into having nothing to do with it, may have saved him? Even so, I just don't think Nucky ever expected much out to Eli, yet the actual blood may have saved his life. Nuck has mentioned it many times when dealing with the lawyer with Eli...who knows.

As for the Angela thing, I agree in a BIG fucking way. It's way over the line and who knows how long he actually lives into next year. His tie to hating Waxy, another businessman that outright fucked him, may have some to do with it at this moment too? Yet that is a huge ugly line to step over.

And no real need for the spoilers in a thread about said show. If anyone opens it up before they watch the latest ep out, that's on them. In another thread, like say the listening thread, sure...makes sense.

[spoon]

I agree. This eps was probably the best of the 2 seasons but they killed off the best character. Nuckys wife is fucked up for giving away his land to the church. It always amazes me when you hear stories from back then and sometimes now when the wife gives lots of money or anything of value to the church like it will buy away their sins. If there is a God how could any one believe that he would care about the rich and what they give? I would think hes God he has no use for money.

Did anyone else think this eps felt very Soprano like? The entire time I watched it I felt like I was watching season finales of the Sopranos years ago.

not at all, bc this finale didn't suck

[Gutter]

I get all the meaning behind it and how it will be used to drive Nucky further into the life and what it means for the show and whatnot, but I still don't like it. There was more story there that could have been hashed out and I was becoming more interested in what Jimmy and his crew were up to than anything else. I think i'm more pissed because some useless shit like Manny Horvitz is still around and Jimmy is gone.

[spoon]

yea, it had a bit of that......I just don't understand at all the end of the episode....I mean, you build this character up, get him to a position of power, he's got a plan, he's got followers, then throw the wrench in the gears in the way of his wife's murder and we don't even get a chance to see him become unhinged and finally take what he wants. just fucking stupid. i though maybe he would survive and Nucky wouldn't have finished him off, but man he's dead as shit and I just don't think the show will ever be as good again.

What's worse is that next season, I'm guessing, they'll do the whole thing that shows like to do to keep giving a paycheck to an actor where, now that he's dead, we'll have full episodes of flashbacks so he's still around. I hate when they do that.

agree on the flashbacks, unless it's just an ep or two, with a rare look when needed

however, I do believe they are loosely following some historical timelines with this show, taking huge liberties sure, but still on a path linked to actual events in the end

this may be the reason the kid dies, but I'm not sure of the actual story that much and don't want to read up until after the show in an effort not to ruin any plot lines.

[spoon]

Just read Smails now and it's dead on. I'm not so sure why you guys are so po'd about that motherfucker Jimmy getting offed?

Ha!

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agree on the flashbacks, unless it's just an ep or two, with a rare look when needed

however, I do believe they are loosely following some historical timelines with this show, taking huge liberties sure, but still on a path linked to actual events in the end

this may be the reason the kid dies, but I'm not sure of the actual story that much and don't want to read up until after the show in an effort not to ruin any plot lines.

Jimmy's character, though he wasn't named Darmody, was an assistant to Nucky but it's doubtful he was as heavily involved in the bootlegging racket that the show portrays him as being a part of. The character Darmody is based off of though did run a number of schemes, one of his most lucrative was apparently a scam he ran with local ice cream vendors in AC. Not as exciting as bootlegging, but he created a monopoly. its kind of funny actually. The real Jimmy Darmody also took over from Nucky politically after Nucky was gone, or had his power removed.

[Gutter]

Just read Smails now and it's dead on. I'm not so sure why you guys are so po'd about that motherfucker Jimmy getting offed?

Ha!

He's the best character on the show.

[spoon]

Jimmy's character, though he wasn't named Darmody, was an assistant to Nucky but it's doubtful he was as heavily involved in the bootlegging racket that the show portrays him as being a part of. The character Darmody is based off of though did run a number of schemes, one of his most lucrative was apparently a scam he ran with local ice cream vendors in AC. Not as exciting as bootlegging, but he created a monopoly. its kind of funny actually. The real Jimmy Darmody also took over from Nucky politically after Nucky was gone, or had his power removed.

well he may have been a mix of multiple characters in the past, or none at all in the end, I'm not sure and curious how you make the claims above? Is it a person based on the name or something you read?

[spoon]

He's the best character on the show.

Excuse me?

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17700000/Chalky-White-boardwalk-empire-17769084-1600-1200.jpg

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well he may have been a mix of multiple characters in the past, or none at all in the end, I'm not sure and curious how you make the claims above? Is it a person based on the name or something you read?

Something I read. Darmody's character is based on the real life James Boyd.

http://theboardwalkempire.blogspot.com/2010/09/was-jimmy-darmody-based-on-real-person.html#more

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Excuse me?

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17700000/Chalky-White-boardwalk-empire-17769084-1600-1200.jpg

Previously arguable, but he'd definitely got top spot now.

[spoon]

Previously arguable, but he'd definitely got top spot now.

and I'm only kidding as I don't heavily invest in any character like that

to me, having any character open to go down at any moment (Nucky excluded I would think) makes the show much better

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and I'm only kidding as I don't heavily invest in any character like that

to me, having any character open to go down at any moment (Nucky excluded I would think) makes the show much better

I'm trying really hard to believe that about the show.....that it will be better because it can take a risk like that with an important character. I don't think I would have minded as much about him being offed if we had seen more of his gang fall apart....we never really got to see all of them hit bottom together and turn against one another. It kind of felt tacked on a bit at the end of the episode, and I thought they had enough material left for Jimmy that they could have held off until the last episode of Season 3.

[Judge Smails]

An unsung character, in my opinion, is Mickey Doyle. I just walk around the house doing his giggle all day for no other reason than to just to get under my wife's skin.

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An unsung character, in my opinion, is Mickey Doyle. I just walk around the house doing his giggle all day for no other reason than to just to get under my wife's skin.

He's grown on me like a fungus.

[spoon]

He's grown on me like a fungus.

he's very opportunistic, better yet, parasitic

many times he was on the outs and in deep shit only to go to the other guy in the equation to get back in the fold

he's a classic politician who just does enough, and not too much as to stay alive and around bc he ends up being useful to so many, but ultimately himself. i guess chameleon says it best.

[spoon]

the mother too, what's her next play bc her whole life was lining up power be it with Nucky, the Commodore and of course her son? shit, in the last ep she even told Jimmy's son "he'd be a powerful man in this city...just like daddy". I wonder how many times a young Jimmy heard that growing up as she kissed his penis?

[Judge Smails]

Everyone saying it was out of line for the guy from Raising Arizona to kill Angela is forgetting to take the gay angle into account. Remember, back then people hated gay people. It wasn't like it is today - where people of all creeds, religions and sexual orientations love and respect each other.

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the mother too, what's her next play bc her whole life was lining up power be it with Nucky, the Commodore and of course her son? shit, in the last ep she even told Jimmy's son "he'd be a powerful man in this city...just like daddy". I wonder how many times a young Jimmy heard that growing up as she kissed his penis?

I wonder if she'll re-kindle her love affair with Luciano in order to still be around the gangster lifestyle or if her and Harrow will get together and combine their misery.

[spoon]

I wonder if she'll re-kindle her love affair with Luciano in order to still be around the gangster lifestyle or if her and Harrow will get together and combine their misery.

Bam!

you nailed it I'm sure

[Gutter]

Bam!

you nailed it I'm sure

I would prefer to see her and Harrow get together....There are lots of similarities between the two now both literally and figuratively, and it would make sense for both of them.....he wants the love and attention of a woman and she wants to maintain her lifestyle and I'm guessing she'd like to be with someone who is damaged and needs fixing and who hasn't realized his full potential.

[Gutter]

Everyone saying it was out of line for the guy from Raising Arizona to kill Angela is forgetting to take the gay angle into account. Remember, back then people hated gay people. It wasn't like it is today - where people of all creeds, religions and sexual orientations love and respect each other.

Would it be out of line for say......they guy who played Flattop in Dick Tracy? or perhaps Det. Hardcastle from Blue Streak?

[Snacks]

the mother too, what's her next play bc her whole life was lining up power be it with Nucky, the Commodore and of course her son? shit, in the last ep she even told Jimmy's son "he'd be a powerful man in this city...just like daddy". I wonder how many times a young Jimmy heard that growing up as she kissed his penis?

They said she is definitely coming back but no answers what she will do. Got to guess she will use her sexuality to get a guy to do go after everyone.

[Snacks]

I would prefer to see her and Harrow get together....There are lots of similarities between the two now both literally and figuratively, and it would make sense for both of them.....he wants the love and attention of a woman and she wants to maintain her lifestyle and I'm guessing she'd like to be with someone who is damaged and needs fixing and who hasn't realized his full potential.

this is what i would love to see. you got to think harrow loved jimmy so he might do whatever he can to help raise his son and to fuck some people up for jimmy.

[spoon]

They said she is definitely coming back but no answers what she will do. Got to guess she will use her sexuality to get a guy to do go after everyone.

nucky and the butcher, that much is for sure

[Dell]

Everyone saying it was out of line for the guy from Raising Arizona to kill Angela is forgetting to take the gay angle into account. Remember, back then people hated gay people. It wasn't like it is today - where people of all creeds, religions and sexual orientations love and respect each other.

William Forsythe is a great actor and I was hoping his character would not be killed (but not at the Jimmy character's expense)...I hope they develop Forsythe's character a little more (the Jewish participation in organized crime was brutal during that time)

[Judge Smails]

William Forsythe is a great actor and I was hoping his character would not be killed (but not at the Jimmy character's expense)...I hope they develop Forsythe's character a little more (the Jewish participation in organized crime was brutal during that time)

He could win 20 Oscars but to me he'll always be the guy who crawled out of the muck with John Goodman in Raising Arizona.

[Dell]

He could win 20 Oscars but to me he'll always be the guy who crawled out of the muck with John Goodman in Raising Arizona.

he played a pretty good badass in Sleepers...

[underdog]

and I'm only kidding as I don't heavily invest in any character like that

to me, having any character open to go down at any moment (Nucky excluded I would think) makes the show much better

That's one of the things I love about game of thrones, and why I no longer invest in any major character.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I would prefer to see her and Harrow get together....There are lots of similarities between the two now both literally and figuratively, and it would make sense for both of them.....he wants the love and attention of a woman and she wants to maintain her lifestyle and I'm guessing she'd like to be with someone who is damaged and needs fixing and who hasn't realized his full potential.

I thought the same thing, given his need for human contact and her willingness to manipulate those in power. I'm optimistic towards Richard's fate in the short-term since even during the lowest point of conflict, he and Owen were cordial to each other in a tense moment and he was never directly involved in violence towards Nucky or anyone else still alive.

[hanso]

I agree. This eps was probably the best of the 2 seasons but they killed off the best character. Nuckys wife is fucked up for giving away his land to the church. It always amazes me when you hear stories from back then and sometimes now when the wife gives lots of money or anything of value to the church like it will buy away their sins. If there is a God how could any one believe that he would care about the rich and what they give? I would think hes God he has no use for money.

Did anyone else think this eps felt very Soprano like? The entire time I watched it I felt like I was watching season finales of the Sopranos years ago.

Heard an angle on this that it was for the kid she started down that path. To add to this ; maybe the kid shakes the braces off to run like the wind. Then becomes Babe Didrikson Zaharias.

[zildjian361]

killing Jimmie of was great for shock value, but he carried the whole season :wallbash: