Two Friends Had a Fight. Help Me Sort It Out.

[Suspect Chin]

So I have two friends (friend A and friend B) who got into a fight last weekend. The events went as follows:

A and B and respective girlfriends went to a concert and drank. After the concert, just because of where people parked, A and the two girls (who are also close friends) rode home together and B rode home alone. This pissed B off and he sent 'Fuck you blah blah blah' texts to his girlfriend and A during the ride home.

A and the two girls got home before B and were relaxing when B got home and started talking shit to A and A's girlfriend saying, 'fuck you and you're both the reason my relationship with girlfriend B isn't working because you two talk shit, etc.' A claims he felt threatened for himself and his girlfriend so he got in B's face and proceeded to hit him once in the face. B then got in his car, drove around the block, came back, and went after A, resulting in a normal fight where both were hit a few times but no real injuries. The fight is broken up and a few minutes later while A has his back turned, B comes after him again, the fight ensues, punches are thrown, and results in A restraining him until everyone calms down. Everyone then goes to bed.

All in all, A suffers a broken hand (not sure if it happened in the initial punch or sometime thereafter) and B suffers a pretty bad black eye but no broken bones or permanent damage (again, not sure exactly when in the fight it happened). Both go to different ERs the next day for treatment. No police reports are ever filed. Both apologize to each other and the girls the following day after returning from ER and things return somewhat to normal.

Today, B contacts A asking him to pay his hospital bills. B has shitty insurance and does not think they will cover any of it. He does not yet have a final cost, but estimates it to be a few thousand for the ER visit and CT scan. A has good insurance and expects his bills to be covered.

A is now afraid that if he doesn't pay, that B will file a police report or try to sue him in civil court. A is also afraid that B's insurance company will come after him for damages.

Does B have a case? Should A pay him? Are they both guilty of assault/battery or only A, since he 'won' the fight and swung first? Is B's threatening demeanor toward A and A's girlfriend enough to justify swinging first?

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I know this is long and boring, but there isn't much else going on this Friday night. Thanks.

[StanUpshaw]

At first I was feeling sorry for B, because he's clearly a loser on the pay-no-mind list if his friends and girlfriend are willing to just ditch him after the concert. He should have taken the hint and dissolved the friendships with some class.

But then he started acting like a bitch, he got punched, and instead of fighting back he ran away and cried in his car. Then instead of just accepting the loss, he comes back and tries to save some face by throwing sucker punches. What a faggot.

If he wants any money, A should be a heel-dragging mother fucker. Make him go to court. I can't imagine anyone in your group still likes B, so you all should just lie and say A was acting in self defense. Counter-sue for A's medical bills.

Fuck B right in the face.

[Suspect Chin]

Well B and B's girlfriend drove separately so they had to ride home in different cars anyway. Obviously A's girlfriend was going to ride home with her friend. A rode to the concert with the two girls so he said he just naturally rode home with them. B was really just being a drunken crybaby at that point in my opinion.

It was only the 4 of them at the house afterward, so no one else from our group was a witness. I'm just reporting what I've been able to piece together from talking with the 4 of them.

I think A is mostly afraid since he swung first.

[Chigworthy]

If I was A or B, I would think about being cool and calling it good.

If I was an alcohol company, I would also start selling xray machines and owning ER's.

[Suspect Chin]

If I was A or B, I would think about being cool and calling it good.


Yeah I think A and B are mostly friends again, the issue is now who should pay B's hospital bills. A is afraid B will escalate the situation if A doesn't pay.

[JBLouisville]

Bottom line for me is, (A) swung first. (A) crossed the line and took it too far. (B) may be a Bitch, but he did not go to the Cops and he was punched. A should help out B. Either way, that friendship is over, and should be.

At no point, should Police get involved. If B goes to the cops, fuck him.

[Tenbatsuzen]

What does O and J think?

[Suspect Chin]

What does O and J think?

huh?

[TheGameHHH]

My take? B is a bitch. First for bitching about the ride home situation, then for not being enough of a grown ass man to cover his medical bills.

[Suspect Chin]

My take? B is a bitch. First for bitching about the ride home situation, then for not being enough of a grown ass man to cover his medical bills.

Yeah I agree with all that but the situation has the potential to move beyond street justice. I was hoping to get some responses as to the actual legality of the situation.

[Judge Smails]

I think the solution is clear: You must cut "Girlfriend B" in two and give a half each to "Friend A" and "Friend B".

[TheGameHHH]

Yeah I agree with all that but the situation has the potential to move beyond street justice. I was hoping to get some responses as to the actual legality of the situation.

Yea. Legally speaking? I can't help you. Just pass along to B that's he's a bitch. And if he wants to continue living his life like a bitch he should at least put on a skirt.

[Dude!]

I think the solution is clear: You must cut "Girlfriend B" in two and give a half each to "Friend A" and "Friend B".

ah...
you are so wise

[Sinestro]

So I have two friends (friend A and friend B) who got into a fight last weekend. The events went as follows:

A and B and respective girlfriends went to a concert and drank. After the concert, just because of where people parked, A and the two girls (who are also close friends) rode home together and B rode home alone. This pissed B off and he sent 'Fuck you blah blah blah' texts to his girlfriend and A during the ride home.

A and the two girls got home before B and were relaxing when B got home and started talking shit to A and A's girlfriend saying, 'fuck you and you're both the reason my relationship with girlfriend B isn't working because you two talk shit, etc.' A claims he felt threatened for himself and his girlfriend so he got in B's face and proceeded to hit him once in the face. B then got in his car, drove around the block, came back, and went after A, resulting in a normal fight where both were hit a few times but no real injuries. The fight is broken up and a few minutes later while A has his back turned, B comes after him again, the fight ensues, punches are thrown, and results in A restraining him until everyone calms down. Everyone then goes to bed.

All in all, A suffers a broken hand (not sure if it happened in the initial punch or sometime thereafter) and B suffers a pretty bad black eye but no broken bones or permanent damage (again, not sure exactly when in the fight it happened). Both go to different ERs the next day for treatment. No police reports are ever filed. Both apologize to each other and the girls the following day after returning from ER and things return somewhat to normal.

Today, B contacts A asking him to pay his hospital bills. B has shitty insurance and does not think they will cover any of it. He does not yet have a final cost, but estimates it to be a few thousand for the ER visit and CT scan. A has good insurance and expects his bills to be covered.

A is now afraid that if he doesn't pay, that B will file a police report or try to sue him in civil court. A is also afraid that B's insurance company will come after him for damages.

Does B have a case? Should A pay him? Are they both guilty of assault/battery or only A, since he 'won' the fight and swung first? Is B's threatening demeanor toward A and A's girlfriend enough to justify swinging first?

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How's your foot?

[danlaroe]

wow what a bunch of douche bags. you should be less 2 friends after this drama...

[Tenbatsuzen]

huh?

very old O&A callback. When Ant did his OJ voice, he'd say that "O" was the nice guy in the Hertz commercials, and "J" was the double-murderer.

[Death Metal Moe]

wow what a bunch of douche bags. you should be less 2 friends after this drama...

Yea, that's my feelings. Cut them out, they're bringing too much drama into your life.

[Chigworthy]

Yeah I agree with all that but the situation has the potential to move beyond street justice. I was hoping to get some responses as to the actual legality of the situation.

The actual legality is that it is a civil matter, likely small claims, and those trials depend on so many variables, there's no reason to even speculate what could happen.

[Suspect Chin]

The actual legality is that it is a civil matter, likely small claims, and those trials depend on so many variables, there's no reason to even speculate what could happen.

So no crimes were committed?

[Chigworthy]

So no crimes were committed?

I thought you were talking about who would pay for some twat's frat-boy medical bills.

[Suspect Chin]

Yea, that's my feelings. Cut them out, they're bringing too much drama into your life.

You started a thread the other day about how people just don't listen or pay attention to what other people say. Your response is a perfect example. I posed several very distinct questions in my original post and you did not address any of them. Instead you provided a solution to the emotional aspect of the situation that was not helpful in the least. Just saying.

[Death Metal Moe]

You started a thread the other day about how people just don't listen or pay attention to what other people say. Your response is a perfect example. I posed several very distinct questions in my original post and you did not address any of them. Instead you provided a solution to the emotional aspect of the situation that was not helpful in the least. Just saying.

No, I read your story. I just chose to ignored your plea for help and posted a gag.

[Suspect Chin]

I thought you were talking about who would pay for some twat's frat-boy medical bills.

I was, and also whether someone would be arrested/charged if a police report ends up getting filed.

[Chigworthy]

No, I read your story. I just chose to ignored your plea for help and posted a gag.

The dangers of posting outside of That's Life are severe.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Maybe you should ICE both of them.

www.brosicingbros.com

[Death Metal Moe]

I really have no idea how a lawsuit would work out, but I think the longer your friend lets this go and the more time he lets pass before he files a report the less likely he's got a case.

If he doesn't do it while it's fresh and the injuries are still visible, it's not really gonna matter.

Even if he does file a report and takes it to small claims, it's gonna be some guy and his girlfriend's word against some other guy and his girlfriend. They were all drunk. I don't see that going very far, but strangers things have flown in court.

[Suspect Chin]

I agree. Good points. Thanks Moe.

[SatCam]

If the cops were called, I imagine what would happen is they would take statements and a report would be made. Then it would be up to your two friends to work it out in civil court. A threw the first punch, but B was the instigator. Therefore I feel B is responsible for his own bills because they share the blame for what happened that night.

That's my ruling, that's it

[Death Metal Moe]

Yea, it just sounds like a drunken night of bullshit, I'm not sure a court would even hear the case.

As Satcam said, reports would be made but then it's my drunken story vs. yours, who is more credible?

If you were called to testify in the trial between your friends, who would you say is more in the wrong?

[TripleSkeet]

Stop hanging out with trailer park people.

[Suspect Chin]

If you were called to testify in the trial between your friends, who would you say is more in the wrong?

I can't decide that why I asked for opinions. I pretty much agree with SatCam, that it would be a wash as far as blame goes. I tend to think that if B got the cops involved that it's possible both could be charged with assault/battery/disturbing the peace/public intox/etc. Therefore B is better off letting it go and just biting the bullet for his own bills.

[Suspect Chin]

Stop hanging out with trailer park people.

How'd you know?

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