should cops Taser fans who run on the field?

[sailor]

what say you? to far? the punk got what he deserved?

personally, i'd say it's probably unnecessary to taser fans running on the field, but i don't have any problem with it either way.

[disneyspy]

since ive had both done to me,i'd say tasering someone is better than macing them and i see nothing wrong with tasering some idiot that thinks its great to run out on the field,he got what he wanted,a charge

[brettmojo]

I enjoy the gang tackle more... But hell yes.

[Hottub]

First tased, then kicked in the balls, then arrested.

[HBox]

I'm usually someone who thinks cops use tasers way too much but in this case I think it's justified. Do we have to wait until someone runs on the field and tries to injure or worse a player or umpire? We already had a fan run on the field and beat the shit out of one of the coaches.

That it's hilarious and the kid deserved it is besides the point.

[StanUpshaw]

As a spectator, I think it's cool. I prefer they way wrestlers handle it, and have the athletes just lay a beating on the guy.

But as a citizen, I think the cops and security are taser crazy maniacs, and I'd prefer they handled it in a more civilized way. Why not just let him run around for an extra thirty seconds, tire himself out, then cuff him when he stops. It's not like he's going to get away.

[torker]

Live ammo only. No warning shots.

[brettmojo]

As a spectator, I think it's cool. I prefer they way wrestlers handle it, and have the athletes just lay a beating on the guy.

But as a citizen, I think the cops and security are taser crazy maniacs, and I'd prefer they handled it in a more civilized way. Why not just let him run around for an extra thirty seconds, tire himself out, then cuff him when he stops. It's not like he's going to get away.
Yeah they could do that. Then in that thirty seconds extra the guy pulls a shank out of his shorts and stabs Ryan Howard in the neck then everyone's crying out "TAZE HIM BRO!!!".

[JPMNICK]

i dont see why not. it is non lethal and I am sure it is safer then 2 security guys tackling you.

[Adolf]

i can't believe i'm the only one that's voted 'no'

that was ridiculous..... occasional fans running onto the field is part of the game, deal with it. i like it.

[StanUpshaw]

i can't believe i'm the only one that's voted 'no'

that was ridiculous..... occasional fans running onto the field is part of the game, deal with it. i like it.

Once again, I find myself in agreement with someone named Adolf.

[underdog]

i can't believe i'm the only one that's voted 'no'

that was ridiculous..... occasional fans running onto the field is part of the game, deal with it. i like it.

Why is it part of the game? Just because a bunch of drunk retards have done it in the past doesn't make it "part of the game".

[Serpico1103]

Yeah they could do that. Then in that thirty seconds extra the guy pulls a shank out of his shorts and stabs Ryan Howard in the neck then everyone's crying out "TAZE HIM BRO!!!".

So, let's strip search everyone entering the stadium to prevent them from bringing in shanks.

Having four guys chase a fan around isn't exactly perfectly safe. What would people against the tasering be saying if the cop tripped and broke his ankle while chasing the fan?

I have some sympathy for criminals, but not jackasses interfering with thousands of people watching a game and presenting a security risk.

[Hottub]

Tasing is too good for some of these morons.

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Part of the game my ass!

[joeyballsack]

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Who wouldn't have enjoyed watching this douche get tased ?

[zildjian361]

Boston too:smoke::drunk:

[Furtherman]

occasional fans running onto the field is part of the game,

No, it's not.

[STC-Dub]

Sure, it is safer than tackling them.

[hanso]

Just make sure its filmed & replayed many times on all channels. Each town could have their own way of doing it. Bean bag gun in Boston etc.

[furie]

I enjoy the gang tackle more... But hell yes.

i agree

[DiabloSammich]

Just make sure its filmed & replayed many times on all channels. Each town could have their own way of doing it. Bean bag gun in Boston etc.



At Chase Field they would just throw mexicans at him till he fell down.

[underdog]

Bean bag gun in Boston etc.

:lol:

[PapaBear]

A guy died after being tazed in Arlington, Va last week. It's the second tazer death there this year. On the news, they said that there had been two other people tazed in Arlington this year, and they didn't die. That's reassuring. The death rate there is only 50%.

[Fallon]

Boston too:smoke::drunk:

:banning:

[STC-Dub]

A guy died after being tazed in Arlington, Va last week. It's the second tazer death there this year. On the news, they said that there had been two other people tazed in Arlington this year, and they didn't die. That's reassuring. The death rate there is only 50%.

That is one way to discourage people from running on the field: possible death penalty.

[Suspect Chin]

How about just putting an electric fence around the field.

[PapaBear]

How about just putting an electric fence around the field.
Outfielders would have to wear rubber bodysuits.

[Suspect Chin]

Outfielders would have to wear rubber bodysuits.

And dumping beer on them would become extra dangerous.

[Rockvillejoe]

i can't believe i'm the only one that's voted 'no'

that was ridiculous..... occasional fans running onto the field is part of the game, deal with it. i like it.

law enforcment maxim:" a minmum amount of force required to subdue"

[Adolf]

No, it's not.

ok lemme re-word it.... it's part of the fun

a fan running out there is a blast if ya ask me, save your tasers for true criminals.. that crowd booed because they all knew how fucked up that was

if it was 'the thing to do' and happened too often i'd be annoyed too, but come on... since day 1 thats been happening, i like it as i said before

[OGC]

ok lemme re-word it.... it's part of the fun

a fan running out there is a blast if ya ask me, save your tasers for true criminals.. that crowd booed because they all knew how fucked up that was

if it was 'the thing to do' and happened too often i'd be annoyed too, but come on... since day 1 thats been happening, i like it as i said before

It used to happen much more frequently. It doesn't happen as much now because of the tough response (body slams and arrests) that are in place.

this type of thing is one of the problems with the world today. the "Me first", "look at me" "aren't I cool" attitude just annoys the fuck out of me.

I think as long as it is made clear how running on the field will be dealt with, the people who do it have no reason to complain when the punishment is applied.

[sailor]

ok lemme re-word it.... it's part of the fun

a fan running out there is a blast if ya ask me, save your tasers for true criminals.. that crowd booed because they all knew how fucked up that was

if it was 'the thing to do' and happened too often i'd be annoyed too, but come on... since day 1 thats been happening, i like it as i said before

I bet you like the wave, too.

[A.J.]

i can't believe i'm the only one that's voted 'no'

that was ridiculous..... occasional fans running onto the field is part of the game, deal with it. i like it.

I liked it once too.

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Who wouldn't have enjoyed watching this douche get tased ?

And that's part of the reason why I would support this. Given this asshole and the dude that stabbed Monica Seles, who knows what the person might be capable of?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

if fan stop when asked no...


but if they resist arest, tase away



Side Note

(if you are a Phillies fan, Tase first, ask questions later)

[sexy bastard]

if a fan is stupid enough to run on the field....on the ice...in a ring..they should get tased...I think its safer then seeing the fan get the shit beat out of them by the athletes..in which that has happened on different occasions

[StanUpshaw]

And that's part of the reason why I would support this. Given this asshole and the dude that stabbed Monica Seles, who knows what the person might be capable of?

This is fucking Fez logic. If fans are really so dangerous, they shouldn't even be allowed in the stadium; the risk is too great.

[TripleSkeet]

This is fucking Fez logic. If fans are really so dangerous, they shouldn't even be allowed in the stadium; the risk is too great.

Im with you.

It was a ridiculous overeaction. This kid never posed a threat. Tasers are supposed to be used the same as guns, only when absolutely necessary. And only when there is an imminent threat of bodily harm. Running around waving a towel is not threatening to anyone. If it was the players wouldnt just be standing there non challantly. Those 2 jerkoffs in Chicago that attacked the first base coach and this kid have ZERO in common.

Its not the job of stadium security to deter fans running on the field. That job is for the judge that hands out the fines and sentences. The job of stadium security is to grab the guy and detain him. If a club had bouncers tasing guys every time they had to throw an unruly drunk out of the bar, people would think that was insane. This is the same friggin thing.

[CYYYFYYY]

IF you wish not to be tazzed don;t go on the field. TAZE AWAY!

[Furtherman]

And that's part of the reason why I would support this. Given this asshole and the dude that stabbed Monica Seles, who knows what the person might be capable of?

True, the liability of such an act requires swift action, and tasering is appropriate.

Its not the job of stadium security to deter fans running on the field. That job is for the judge that hands out the fines and sentences.

It is the job of stadium security to stop fans from running on the field. Watching a fan get tackled, hurt OR tased - that will deter fans.

The rest of the stadium never sees, nor cares to follow up on, what the judge gives out to said asshole. There is no deterrent there at all.

[Serpico1103]

He wasn't tazed for being on the field. He was tazed when he evaded security and the cop (that was a cop that tazed him wasn't it?).
A cop is allowed to tackle a fleeing suspect. Is that measurable safer for the suspect? The officer?
Had he complied fairly quickly I would be against the tazing, his prolonged antics needed to end.

[StanUpshaw]

He wasn't tazed for being on the field. He was tazed when he evaded security and the cop (that was a cop that tazed him wasn't it?).
A cop is allowed to tackle a fleeing suspect. Is that measurable safer for the suspect? The officer?
Had he complied fairly quickly I would be against the tazing, his prolonged antics needed to end.

But why is this preferable to just calmly waiting a few more seconds and then arresting him when he stops. He can't run forever, he can't escape. There was no need for violence. It's ridiculous.

[sailor]

But why is this preferable to just calmly waiting a few more seconds and then arresting him when he stops. He can't run forever, he can't escape. There was no need for violence. It's ridiculous.

you're right, no way he could slip back into the crowd and blend in.

[Serpico1103]

But why is this preferable to just calmly waiting a few more seconds and then arresting him when he stops. He can't run forever, he can't escape. There was no need for violence. It's ridiculous.
So just let him control the event? That is silly. Maybe they hire some conerbacks. I wouldn't mind an open field tackle, and let them lead with the helmet.
They must maintain control. Every second he runs around is more encouragement to others. It must be stopped quickly.

[Fallon]

Another douche ran onto the field last night and tweeted “turn on the phillies game, im about to be on the feild!!!!!!!!!!”

Might have cost Hammels the win with the distraction.

[StanUpshaw]

So just let him control the event? That is silly. Maybe they hire some conerbacks. I wouldn't mind an open field tackle, and let them lead with the helmet.
They must maintain control. Every second he runs around is more encouragement to others. It must be stopped quickly.

Bullshit. The spectacle they made a couple days ago only encouraged another idiot last night.

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[Fallon]

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Nice capris dick.

[joeyballsack]

Im with you.

It was a ridiculous overeaction. This kid never posed a threat. Tasers are supposed to be used the same as guns, only when absolutely necessary. And only when there is an imminent threat of bodily harm. Running around waving a towel is not threatening to anyone. If it was the players wouldnt just be standing there non challantly. Those 2 jerkoffs in Chicago that attacked the first base coach and this kid have ZERO in common.

Its not the job of stadium security to deter fans running on the field. That job is for the judge that hands out the fines and sentences. The job of stadium security is to grab the guy and detain him. If a club had bouncers tasing guys every time they had to throw an unruly drunk out of the bar, people would think that was insane. This is the same friggin thing.

So, by your logic its also not a police officers job to deter criminals, it should be left up to a judge ?

[OGC]

Bullshit. The spectacle they made a couple days ago only encouraged another idiot last night.

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it's nice to see that Artie Lange is doing better.

[Section 8]

I had no problem with them tazing the kid. He doesn't belong on the field. They should have tazed this other asshat too, just to prove a point. When you get on the field, you are trespassing. Stay off the field. You are not paid to be on it. You do not work for the teams playing. You are not on the stadium staff. You are not a security member.

How this should be fixed:
If you really want to stop people from running on the field, raise the fines from $300 to $10,000 and ban the fence hoppers from the stadium for life. If he's a season ticket holder, revoke his seat license and the tickets go back into the pool for someone else to purchase. If he's using someone else's season tickets, he gets banned and the season ticket holder loses all seat licenses.

[torker]

Landmines?

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[OGC]

Landmines?

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I like this idea. It will make the games more exciting too.

[K.C.]

Fascist pigs.

[A.J.]

Landmines?

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She should be tazed for goldigging.

[Serpico1103]

Bullshit. The spectacle they made a couple days ago only encouraged another idiot last night.


So, security encouraged it? Nice leap. It furthers my argument that they must stop fans immediately. Give security whips or use horsemen with lassos. Then drag the guy across the field tied to the saddle.

[StanUpshaw]

By using unnecessarily severe tactics, they got a lot of media coverage. By getting a lot of media coverage, numbnuts decides he wants to get on the news too. And he did!

Would a jumper who ran around for a bit and was calmly corralled and arrested even make the news?

[Serpico1103]

By using unnecessarily severe tactics, they got a lot of media coverage. By getting a lot of media coverage, numbnuts decides he wants to get on the news too. And he did!

Would a jumper who ran around for a bit and was calmly corralled and arrested even make the news?
You are assuming that he would be eventually calmly corralled. Argendo, he submits calmly, it still makes the local news.
Had the fan ran around longer, grabbed a player, or a player grabbed him it would have garnered attention.

Fuck him.

[StanUpshaw]

You are assuming that he would be eventually calmly corralled. Argendo, he submits calmly, it still makes the local news.
Had the fan ran around longer, grabbed a player, or a player grabbed him it would have garnered attention.

Fuck him.

Don't use your lawyer talk on me. And if you do, at least spell it correctly (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Arguendo).

[Serpico1103]

Don't use your lawyer talk on me. And if you do, at least spell it correctly (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Arguendo).
I'll take your focus on spelling, as an admission of defeat as to substance.

Police brutality makes baseball watchable.

[Contra]

Morality or legality aside, it was hilarious

[OGC]

Morality or legality aside, it was hilarious


I disagree. It was humorous. Hilarious would have been if the guy had twitched for a few minutes after being tased.

[TripleSkeet]

So, by your logic its also not a police officers job to deter criminals, it should be left up to a judge ?

Its a police officers job to arrest criminals. When they teach kids the law they teach "Dont break the law or you will go to jail" not "Dont break the law or the police will beat your ass". Their job is to detain a criminal using the necessary force. Here you have one person in an open field surrounded by at least 10 security guards and cops. There is no need for a taser. He wasnt attacking anyone and eventually he would have been apprehended.

This is basically the same rule that says cops cant shoot an unarmed criminal that is running away from him. Its not hard to understand.

People are acting like this is some new crazy thing kids are doing running onto the field. Like "What else could this cop do?" Its been happening for over 50 years. Not once was a person ever tased, and not once was it ever a big deal about them getting apprehended.

The funniest part is I keep thinking of the kid from the Bad News Bears refusing to leave the field of the Astrodome getting tased after he hits the security guard with 2nd base.

[dino_electropolis]

a quick scroll down the page and the Serpico/StanUpshaw convo cracks me up, only because of their avatars....like a psycho arguing with his evil twin.....very funny.



And btw- No, cops shouldnt fkn taze....there are less forceful measures they can use for a fan simply running on a field.....just as there has been for the last 80 years......

Simply put: pigs are on the loose!

[TripleSkeet]

a quick scroll down the page and the Serpico/StanUpshaw convo cracks me up, only because of their avatars....like a psycho arguing with his evil twin.....very funny.



And btw- No, cops shouldnt fkn taze....there are less forceful measures they can use for a fan simply running on a field.....just as there has been for the last 80 years......

Simply put: pigs are on the loose!

I was thinking the same thing about the avatars. :lol: Bizarro Serpico cracks me up.

And youre right. If you ask a cop, no force is too much force. Im friends with plenty of cops and if it were up to them theyd be allowed to use rubber bullets on 10 year old kids that try to sneak into the stadium.

[ralphbxny]

Taser all of !!!

[brettmojo]

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