Is bread sold in the USA toxic and criminal?

[LordJezo]

While doing hamstring curls at the gym on Thursday a dude was ranting about Azodicarbonamide in bread and warning us that we need to be more careful about we buy.

"I stopped getting my bread at Costco, is has this azc stuff in it and it's killing the population."

This got me concerned and I did some reading about it after I went back to the office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azodicarbonamide

Use of azodicarbonamide as a food additive is banned in Australia and in Europe. In Singapore, the use of azodicarbonamide can result in up to 15 years imprisonment and a fine of $450,000.

In the UK, the Health and Safety Executive has identified azodicarbonamide as a respiratory sensitiser (a possible cause of asthma) and determined that products should be labeled with "May cause sensitisation by inhalation."

http://blog.foodfacts.com/index.php/2009/07/01/azodicarbonamide-another-reason-to-avoid-most-bread/

What is azodicarbonamide?

It is a chemical whose primary use is “in the production of foamed plastics.”

http://blog.greenenergytv.com/blog/eco-friendly-living-2/0/0/another-dangerous-ingredient-in-our-food---azodicarbonamide-ada

So are we being poisoned? Should we look out for this now when buying bread? Is this just another way of American companies killing their customers all while making a quick buck?

[Judge Smails]

It is always in a company's best interest to kill its customers. That's just basic Economics 101 right there.

[A.J.]

It is always in a company's best interest to kill its customers. That's just basic Economics 101 right there.

Well....

http://home.honolulu.hawaii.edu/~pine/Book2/marlboro.jpg

[underdog]

Why are people buying bread at costco?

[biggestmexi]

Costco levens its bread with aids.

DELICOUS!

[biggestmexi]

Also, if you were to compare the US food standards to the EU, youd be shitting bricks.

They are very strict.

[mikeyboy]

It's only in the bread supplied to markets with a right leaning customer base.

[Crossweird]

Costco bread kidnapped my parents.

[StanUpshaw]

Did you read the wiki entry? Did you take time to try to understand it, or did you just rush into mindless fear mongering mode immediately?

The two key points you seem to have missed are:
It reacts with moist flour as an oxidizing agent. The main reaction product is biurea (not urea), which is stable during baking.
...
Toxicological studies of the reactions of azodicarbonamide show that it is rapidly converted to biurea in dough, which is a stable compound not decomposed upon cooking.

This means while the flour may contain a minuscule amount (45 ppm), after the addition of water starts an oxidation reaction, the finished product of bread contains far less, if any at all.

Second:
In the UK, the Health and Safety Executive has identified azodicarbonamide as a respiratory sensitiser (a possible cause of asthma) and determined that products should be labeled with "May cause sensitisation by inhalation."

Inhalation. Not consumption. I don't know about you, but I rarely grind up and snort my Wonder bread.

[StanUpshaw]

Costco levens its bread with aids.

DELICOUS!

Then we're in luck!

Azodicarbonamide inhibits HIV-1 replication by targeting the nucleocapsid protein
http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v3/n3/abs/nm0397-341.html

[Serpico1103]

Hamstring curls? What's next hip abductors? Jezo, what does a lucille roberts membership cost?

[StanUpshaw]

I did some more research, and found some information on the real reason azodicarbonamide is banned in Europe. It has nothing to do with asthma, and your idiotic fear mongering website doesn't even mention it.

The problem is not azodicarbonamide itself, it's a compound called Semicarbazide, which occurs for many reasons, including when azodicarbonamide is broken down by heat. Studies indicate that semicarbazide has weak carcinogenic potential. From EFSA (http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/scdocs/scdoc/219.htm):

The Scientific Panel on Food Additives, Flavourings, Processing Aids and Materials in Contact with Food (AFC) has been asked to advise the European Commission on the occurrence of semicarbazide (SEM) in food. The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) issued preliminary advice on SEM in 2003, when the occurrence of SEM in food, derived from food packaging, was first discovered. The Panel was asked on this occasion to gather data on the occurrence of SEM in all types of food, to explain the conditions under which SEM may be formed in food and to evaluate the analytical methods used. In the light of this information, the Panel was asked to assess the risks posed by semicarbazide in all types of food. The approach taken by the Panel on this question was to search the scientific literature and to take account of information from the Commission, national authorities and trade associations.

SEM has been found to occur in different types of foods and the source of SEM varies. SEM is a metabolite of the veterinary medicine nitrofurazone, but since the use of nitrofurazone is illegal in the EU, SEM from this source should not be detectable in foods. SEM can be present in foods as a result of migration from sealing gaskets used in the metal lids of jars and bottles.

In this case, the origin of the SEM is thermal breakdown of azodicarbonamide, a blowing agent used to foam the plastic gaskets. SEM has been found in food products made using flour in which azodicarbonamide has been added as a dough-improver a practice that is not permitted in the EU. Other sources have been suggested but are less well documented. SEM is reportedly formed as a reaction product of the action of hypochlorite on food additives such as carrageenan and on foods such as egg white powder. Finally, SEM may be present at background levels naturally, may be formed at low levels when some foods are dried, and may also derive from as yet unidentified sources.

The method of analysis used to test foods for SEM involves acid hydrolysis and a derivatisation step with 2-nitrobenzaldehyde. The derivative is then determined using liquid chromatography coupled to tandem mass spectrometry with a detection limit in the region of 0.2 μg/kg. The acid hydrolysis step liberates bound residues for analysis and the analysis method therefore measures total SEM (“free” and “bound”) in the sample. The acid hydrolysis conditions used in the analytical method are not dissimilar to normal gastric conditions. Since the current state of knowledge on the bioavailability of any bound residues is incomplete, in this evaluation there is no distinction made between SEM that is present as such in a food sample and any SEM that may have been formed from precursors in the food under acidic conditions used in the analysis.

It is concluded that the method of testing for SEM provides concentration data that are suitable for this risk evaluation.

On the basis of the information available, migration of SEM from the breakdown of azodicarbonamide (ADC) in sealing gaskets is by far the largest source of exposure known. The concentration data available from analyses of food undertaken by different countries were similar. The highest potential intakes of SEM are in infants consuming ready-to-feed infant milk and baby food, attributable to the larger gasket areas involved in the packaging and their small body weight. Reasonable worst case estimates of intake for infants fed on products packaged in glass jars and bottles range from 0.35 to 1.4 μg/kg bw/day.

Adult exposures to SEM from this source are likely to be much lower than infant exposures, due to the lower contribution of foods packaged in bottles and jars to the total diet of adults, the lower contamination levels derived from the smaller gasket areas involved for that packaging, and the higher adult body weight. A reasonable worst case estimate of intake for an adult would be 0.02 μg/kg bw/day.

Commission Directive 2004/1/EC prohibits the use of azodicarbonamide in food contact materials from 2nd August 2005. Once existing stocks of packaged foods are used up, exposure of consumers by this route will have been eliminated.

Other possible sources of SEM in foods contribute far less to exposure than that estimated above for packaging. Bread made using flour treated with ADC can contain SEM. In laboratory tests the SEM concentration in bread was 28 μg/kg. ADC is not permitted as a flour treatment agent in the EU and the importation of bread and bakery ware is likely to be very low. There is the potential for exposure from breaded animal products imported into the EU (e.g. frozen breaded chicken or fish products). Taking an upper figure of 5 μg/kg of product this would give an intake of SEM of 1 μg/person from a consumption of 200g of product.

For a high consumer of egg products that may be contaminated by 50 μg/kg SEM as a result of using hypochlorite as a sanitising solution on production equipment, a reasonable worst-case estimate of exposure is 0.008 μg/kg bw/day. For the food additive carrageenan, that may become contaminated with SEM at a mean concentration of 65 μg/kg from use of hypochlorite in the production process, if consumption was up to the Acceptable Daily Intake (ADI) for carrageenan then the intake of SEM from this source could be up to 0.005 μg/kg bw/day.

SEM has been shown to be carcinogenic in mice, but not rats. Literature data on genotoxicity together with the results of recent studies indicate that SEM is mutagenic but not clastogenic in some test systems in vitro, notably in the absence of an exogenous metabolising system. In vivo, negative results were reported in studies on DNA damage in liver and lung of mice, and in the micronucleus assay in the mouse. Based on the overall weight of evidence provided by the studies performed, which included a study using a highly sensitive methodology, the Panel concluded that the weak genotoxicity exerted by SEM in vitro is not expressed in vivo.

The new data allaying the concern on genotoxicity in vivo, and the likely reductions in exposure following replacement of the most significant, currently known source of SEM in the diet (gaskets on glass jars and bottles), offer further support to the preliminary advice given by EFSA in 2003 that the risk, if any, from consumption of foods containing SEM is judged to be very small, not only for adult consumers but also for infants. In this respect the Panel noted that SEM is a weak non-genotoxic carcinogen for which a threshold mechanism can be assumed. A large margin of at least 5 orders of magnitude exists between the dose causing tumours in experimental animals and human exposure, including that of infants.

The Panel therefore concluded that the issue of carcinogenicity is not of concern for human health at the concentrations of SEM encountered in food.

[A.J.]

Costco levens its bread with aids.

DELICOUS!

Fuck you for making me laugh out loud at work.

[StanUpshaw]

I did some more research and found the real real reason the EU banned azodicarbonamide in the first place.

From the Report of the Scientific Committee for Food, 1990 (pdf (http://ec.europa.eu/food/fs/sc/scf/reports/scf_reports_26.pdf))

1.4 Azodicarbonamide (ADA)
This substance has been used in flour as an oxidising improver in breadmaking at levels up to 45 mg/kg flour. In this process ADA is converted to biurea. The Committee was informed about earlier studies involving acute and subacute administration to rats and dogs and a one year feeding study in rats on biurea. The Committee reviewed a study in rats on metabolism of radiolabelled ADA and in vitro as well as in vivo mutagenicity studies. These latter provided evidence that ADA is a direct acting bacterial mutagen, though there is no evidence for mutagenic activity in vivo. The toxicological data on ADA and biurea are generally adequate to provide reassurance on the safety of this agent, provided it can be shown that ADA residues are not present in treated flour and that conversion to biurea is complete. The available analytical data are inadequate in this respect, but the Committee was informed that further analytical studies were now in progress. A final decision was deferred until the results of these studies are available.

[opie's twisted balls]

Costco levens its bread with aids.

DELICOUS!
Syphilis in their cheese and the chickens have herpes

[LordJezo]

Dude brought a print out about the stuff to the gym today. Was waving it around in the locker room. One of the shirtless trainers who was in there took a look at it and didn't worry about it.

I am going to go home and check my pantry. Buying bread with this stuff in it is a thing of the past, I am putting it on the same list as hydrogenated oils. The food industry doesn't care about us at all and will do anything to save money and turn a profit.

As stan posted above, not only does it cause breathing problems but the stuff also causes cancer.

It needs to be banned.

[Dude!]

i can't believe you care about
this azc stuff
when your bread is leavened
with a yeast infection

[StanUpshaw]

As stan posted above, not only does it cause breathing problems but the stuff also causes cancer.

It needs to be banned.

:wallbash:

[biggestmexi]

Dude brought a print out about the stuff to the gym today. Was waving it around in the locker room. One of the shirtless trainers who was in there took a look at it and didn't worry about it.

I am going to go home and check my pantry. Buying bread with this stuff in it is a thing of the past, I am putting it on the same list as hydrogenated oils. The food industry doesn't care about us at all and will do anything to save money and turn a profit.

As stan posted above, not only does it cause breathing problems but the stuff also causes cancer.

It needs to be banned.

according to the state of california, pretty much everyting non-organic is a carcinigen.

fuckasshat

[biggestmexi]

I did some more research and found the real real reason the EU banned azodicarbonamide in the first place.

From the Report of the Scientific Committee for Food, 1990 (pdf (http://ec.europa.eu/food/fs/sc/scf/reports/scf_reports_26.pdf))

like i said. EU is tight....









'yo

[sailor]

Dude brought a print out about the stuff to the gym today. Was waving it around in the locker room. One of the shirtless trainers who was in there took a look at it and didn't worry about it.

how is he not everyone's favorite poster?

[StanUpshaw]

Here is a good overview of the background, sources and risks of semicarbazide (assuming you actually give half a shit and aren't just fucking with me).
From The Food Safety Hazard Guidebook (http://books.google.com/books?id=KiK9fcE4xvAC&pg=PA316)

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5765/booksidkik9fce4xvacpgpa.png
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1724/booksidkik9fce4xvacpgpaw.png
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5765/booksidkik9fce4xvacpgpa.png

[ChimneyFish]

I love this gimmick.

[StanUpshaw]

Between him and hanso (and HTG), I'm going to fucking lose it sooner or later.

[ChimneyFish]

Miss The Bends. He was the best.

[LordJezo]

I love this gimmick.

What gimmick?

Here is a good overview of the background, sources and risks of semicarbazide (assuming you actually give half a shit and aren't just fucking with me).
From The Food Safety Hazard Guidebook (http://books.google.com/books?id=KiK9fcE4xvAC&pg=PA316)

...pictures...

I read all that and what I am gathering from it is that it's also killing babies and that the EU is trying to keep poisonous baby food off of store shelves. Why would anyone willingly eat this stuff?

[Serpico1103]

Miss The Bends. He was the best.
Where did he go? Miss his one dimensionalism.

[foodcourtdruide]

Where did he go? Miss his one dimensionalism.

He got banned by the liberal mods.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

While doing hamstring curls at the gym on Thursday a dude was ranting about Azodicarbonamide in bread and warning us that we need to be more careful about we buy.

"I stopped getting my bread at Costco, is has this azc stuff in it and it's killing the population."

This got me concerned and I did some reading about it after I went back to the office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azodicarbonamide



http://blog.foodfacts.com/index.php/2009/07/01/azodicarbonamide-another-reason-to-avoid-most-bread/



http://blog.greenenergytv.com/blog/eco-friendly-living-2/0/0/another-dangerous-ingredient-in-our-food---azodicarbonamide-ada

So are we being poisoned? Should we look out for this now when buying bread? Is this just another way of American companies killing their customers all while making a quick buck?

So the real question here is how much do you lift?

[weekapaugjz]

So the real question here is how much do you lift?

the shirtless trainer.

[biggestmexi]

the shirtless trainer.

:clap::clap::clap:

[smiler grogan]

:wallbash:

why are you doing research about an article that one of the greatest board characters posted. This is his schtick, fun paranoia.

[Serpico1103]

He got banned by the liberal mods.

I think that was one of Obama's promises; ban right leaning posters.

[hanso]

While doing hamstring curls at the gym on Thursday a dude was ranting about Azodicarbonamide in bread and warning us that we need to be more careful about we buy.

"I stopped getting my bread at Costco, is has this azc stuff in it and it's killing the population."

This got me concerned and I did some reading about it after I went back to the office.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azodicarbonamide



http://blog.foodfacts.com/index.php/2009/07/01/azodicarbonamide-another-reason-to-avoid-most-bread/



http://blog.greenenergytv.com/blog/eco-friendly-living-2/0/0/another-dangerous-ingredient-in-our-food---azodicarbonamide-ada

So are we being poisoned? Should we look out for this now when buying bread? Is this just another way of American companies killing their customers all while making a quick buck?

When I do my curls at the gym. My mind is fixated solely on doughnut sticks.

[LordJezo]

Ended up buying some Arnold rolls tonight. I went through the ingredient list of a bunch of different breads and they all had that chemical in it. Arnold did not. it had HFCS but I figure that's less deadly than this cancer causing respiratory infecting junk everyone is now using.

Sure are a lot of apologists in this thread, Stan doesnt seem to mind that he's feeding himself and possibly his whole family a deadly chemical used in the production of plastics.

It has no place in our bread. People need to change their buying habits and stop supporting companies who use it.

[Pestz4Evah]

Is it true that bread eats away at your brain? We have no way of knowing, because the powerful bread lobby won't let me complete my research.

[biggestmexi]

it had HFCS but I figure that's less deadly than this cancer causing respiratory infecting junk everyone is now using.


well your fucked

http://www.naturalnews.com/001812.html

[sailor]

He got banned by the liberal mods.

they're the worst.

[brettmojo]

Thankfully I only eat rolls and steer away from bread.

[Doctor Z]

I'd hit it.

[Bob Impact]

While doing hamstring curls at the gym on Thursday a dude was ranting about Azodicarbonamide in bread and warning us that we need to be more careful about we buy.

While doing hamstring curls at the gym

God, I fucking love you.

[LordJezo]

So you are just going to keep buying bread that has this chemical in it knowing that most of the rest of the modern world has banned it? It's not in all bread sold at the stores, just a majority. A decision to be safe can be made by simply reading the labels, which is something a whole lot of Americans don't seem to do or care about given how unhealthy most of them are.

[Bob Impact]

So you are just going to keep buying bread that has this chemical in it knowing that most of the rest of the modern world has banned it? It's not in all bread sold at the stores, just a majority. A decision to be safe can be made by simply reading the labels, which is something a whole lot of Americans don't seem to do or care about given how unhealthy most of them are.

That's my plan. Then I'm going to totally shred my abs.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I love this gimmick.

I second this. No better board character.

[LordJezo]

How can you continue to buy bread that has plastic making asthma cancer chemicals in it when there are better choices?

[StanUpshaw]

How can you continue to buy bread that has plastic making asthma cancer chemicals in it when there are better choices?

It's also an HIV-inhibitor.

Are you saying you are in favor of HIV? You want Magic Johnson to die?

You've gone too far this time Jezo.

[biggestmexi]

It's also an HIV-inhibitor.

Are you saying you are in favor of HIV? You want Magic Johnson to die?

You've gone too far this time Jezo.

this time?

[Jujubees2]

Two words Jezo. Bread maker.

http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/448640/5161883/0/1201662335/Bread_Maker.jpg

[KatPw]

Two words Jezo. Bread maker.

http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/448640/5161883/0/1201662335/Bread_Maker.jpg

Please, you don't even need that. All you need is the ingredients, a bowl, hands, a loaf pan (or sheet pan for rustic breads) and an oven. I've been baking all our bread for about 2 years now. Easy as hell.

[Jujubees2]

Please, you don't even need that. All you need is the ingredients, a bowl, hands, a loaf pan (or sheet pan for rustic breads) and an oven. I've been baking all our bread for about 2 years now. Easy as hell.

Yeah, but Jezo's hands are sore from all that "lifting" at the gym.

[StanUpshaw]

Here's the thing about making your own bread: The "harmful" stuff is already in the flour!

So now you'd have two imaginary chances to kill yourself with toxic chemicals, not just one.

When it's in the flour, then you would have an actual chance of inhaling azodicarbonamide (that could give you asthma if it was in sufficient quantities, which it is not); and you still end up with a loaf of bread that contains semicarbazide (that could give you cancer if it was in sufficient quantities, which it is not).

He could buy unbleached flour, but that means he'd still have to diligently check the labels. Plus, like juju said, his arms are already too sore to do all that kneading.

[KatPw]

Here's the thing about making your own bread: The "harmful" stuff is already in the flour!

So now you'd have two imaginary chances to kill yourself with toxic chemicals, not just one.

When it's in the flour, then you would have an actual chance of inhaling azodicarbonamide (that could give you asthma if it was in sufficient quantities, which it is not); and you still end up with a loaf of bread that contains semicarbazide (that could give you cancer if it was in sufficient quantities, which it is not).

He could buy unbleached flour, but that means he'd still have to diligently check the labels. Plus, like juju said, his arms are already too sore to do all that kneading.

Unbleached flour is pretty easy to come by. King Arthur is pretty widely available. Hecker's also. The only thing bleached flour is useful for is you want your bread and cake really white in color.
And if he kneaded his own bread he wouldn't have to lift weights so much :laugh:

[StanUpshaw]

They also talk about it being an "improver." I'm not sure what that means. I think they said something about helping gluten formation.

[LordJezo]

Here's the thing about making your own bread: The "harmful" stuff is already in the flour!
.

When we bake our bread products we frequently used unbleached organic flour. It's pretty easy to get. Everyone knows that bleached sugars and flours are dangerous but they are not used in making plastics and banned in almost the entire world. The USA is behind on this one. Everyone has banned them yet the FDA just sits on it's corrupt ass and does nothing as they are paid off by lobbyists to ignore dangerous chemicals in our foods.

Yeah, but Jezo's hands are sore from all that "lifting" at the gym.

I use gloves. I tried lifting without them for a while but my hands are too delicate.

[LordJezo]

And now a year and a half later this topic is brought up on the show and has made national USA news.

http://king.nswebhost.com/forums/index.php

http://healthland.time.com/2011/10/27/why-lovin-the-mcrib-isnt-a-heart-smart-idea/

[disneyspy]

man i've missed you

[Jujubees2]

All hail the return of LordJezo!!!

Wait a minute, are you saying that eating a McRib is not good for you? Hold the presses!!!!!!!!!!

[Kevin]

FINALLY

Jezo HAS COME BACK TO RONFEZ.NET!

[newport king]

FINALLY

Jezo HAS COME BACK TO RONFEZ.NET!

To steal our monies.

[Kevin]

To steal our monies.

He will post via satellite

[hanso]

And now a year and a half later this topic is brought up on the show and has made national USA news.

http://king.nswebhost.com/forums/index.php

http://healthland.time.com/2011/10/27/why-lovin-the-mcrib-isnt-a-heart-smart-idea/

Foods need preservatives or they will spoil.

[Chigworthy]

And now a year and a half later this topic is brought up on the show and has made national USA news.

http://king.nswebhost.com/forums/index.php

http://healthland.time.com/2011/10/27/why-lovin-the-mcrib-isnt-a-heart-smart-idea/

If only we'd listened to you, we'd all still be alive.

[weekapaugjz]

we need more jezo threads.

[hanso]

Does jezo tebow?

[Kevin]

Does jezo tebow?

Don't you dare say a bad thing about Tebow.

[hanso]

Tebow bread never goes bad.

[disneyspy]

Tebow bread never goes bad.

but it only comes in half slices

[hanso]

Just tried pretzel bread for the first time, good stuff.

Got it in rolls had open chicken salad on it.

[Bob Impact]

This makes me so nostalgic for LordJezo's gym stories.

[keithy_19]

This makes me so nostalgic for LordJezo's gym stories.

It's a shame. He tried to lift too much and has never been the same.

[IamFogHat]

This makes me so nostalgic for LordJezo's gym stories.

I miss that nutty guy.

[underdog]

I miss that nutty guy.

He keeps trying at V4, but it's not the same.

[KnoxHarrington]

This makes me so nostalgic for LordJezo's gym stories.

Yeah, there was something disturbingly funny about his stories of this bizarre gym where the guys trade far right-wing conspiracy theories in between jerking each other off in the steam room.

[disneyspy]

Yeah, there was something disturbingly funny about his stories of this bizarre gym where the guys trade far right-wing conspiracy theories in between jerking each other off in the steam room.

i liked how some people didn't get the bit and would get wierded out by his stories

[LordJezo]

So what do you assholes have to say for yourself now?

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1706644

[Jujubees2]

So what do you assholes have to say for yourself now?

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1706644

YEAH LORD JEZO IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap:
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thum bup::thumbup:

[spoon]

downward dog on a loaf of bread for me

[jennysmurf]

downward dog on a loaf of bread for me

You don't get it--downward dog IS the bread! It's the bread! What a world, what a world!

http://news.kron4.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/adagfx.jpg

[hanso]

Hamstring french curl bread.

[hanso]

You don't get it--downward dog IS the bread! It's the bread! What a world, what a world!

http://news.kron4.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/adagfx.jpg

It makes your hair shiny.

[jennysmurf]

It makes your hair shiny.

But does it make your shine hairy?

[realmenhatelife]

The one biggest bummer about healthfulness is cutting out bread really does make a big difference. Eventually you get used to not eating bread on the regular but goddamn every time you eat a nice piece of bread it is so delicious.

I probably eat bread once or twice a week but I could eat just straight up buttered bread every day and I would never ever get sick of it.

[sailor]

There's a new documentary breadwinners that points out all these lies.

[jennysmurf]

The one biggest bummer about healthfulness is cutting out bread really does make a big difference. Eventually you get used to not eating bread on the regular but goddamn every time you eat a nice piece of bread it is so delicious.

I probably eat bread once or twice a week but I could eat just straight up buttered bread every day and I would never ever get sick of it.

I'm eating two eggs over-easy between two slices of sourdough bread (with cheddar cheese), right now. It's what they will serve for breakfast in Heaven.

[sailor]

I'm eating two eggs over-easy between two slices of sourdough bread (with cheddar cheese), right now. It's what they will serve for breakfast in Heaven.

Why is sourdough so big in SF?

[jennysmurf]

Why is sourdough so big in SF?

Cause it's made here. The atmospheric conditions here are perfect for it. Nectar of the gods.

[realmenhatelife]

Sourdough is also big in Alaska.

[sailor]

Sourdough is also big in Alaska.

And Texas. Everything's big in Texas.

[realmenhatelife]

And Texas. Everything's big in Texas.

You know it's really not that special when you think about it. Pretty common.

[sailor]

You know it's really not that special when you think about it. Pretty common.

But SF goes fucking crazy for it.

[jennysmurf]

You know it's really not that special when you think about it. Pretty common.

But SF goes fucking crazy for it.

:dry:

[hanso]

And Texas. Everything's big in Texas.

Yeah toast!