Verizon Iphone

[Tenbatsuzen]

It's real, and it's coming. From the Wall Street Journal:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-to-launch-new-iphone-this-summer-wsj-2010-03-29

This will be awesome.


My question is this: I have a bunch of paid apps for my touch. If I go to the Iphone, do I need to re-buy?

[Mitch&Murray]

It's real, and it's coming. From the Wall Street Journal:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-to-launch-new-iphone-this-summer-wsj-2010-03-29

This will be awesome.


My question is this: I have a bunch of paid apps for my touch. If I go to the Iphone, do I need to re-buy?

Its Apple, they will assume you will gladly pay for it again.

[Hottub]

Just a guess based on Apple's past policies.
1 unit is linked to one computer. The iTunes, the stored apps and media are for 1 unit only.
You can't plug in another apple product and grab stuff from the dedicated unit's account.

Looks to me that they have yet another way to slide it right into your dumper. (sans lube)

Enjoy your iPhone, Matt.

[Furtherman]

This is the 2nd best thing I've read about Apple today.

[Hottub]

This is the 2nd best thing I've read about Apple today.

Was the 1st a story about Chapter 8?

[Furtherman]

Was the 1st a story about Chapter 8?

It was actually a steamy story about a young private and Section 8.

Huddla Huddla.

[paulisded]

Actually, there is a way to get those apps on more than one itouch/iphone.

Last fall, I upgraded to the 64g iTouch. When registering it, I checked the box that said I was replacing an existing player. All of the apps were installed on the new player, and they still work fine on the old 32g.

[Hottub]

Actually, there is a way to get those apps on more than one itouch/iphone.

Last fall, I upgraded to the 64g iTouch. When registering it, I checked the box that said I was replacing an existing player. All of the apps were installed on the new player, and they still work fine on the old 32g.

Don't let the Apple bean counters know about this.

[EliSnow]

My question is this: I have a bunch of paid apps for my touch. If I go to the Iphone, do I need to re-buy?

Don't listen to the haters.

I have a Touch, my wife an iPhone. The apps I buy, whether on my Touch or online on my iTunes appear on my wife's iPhone without an additional charge.

[EliSnow]

Just a guess based on Apple's past policies.
1 unit is linked to one computer. The iTunes, the stored apps and media are for 1 unit only.

Wrong. I have 4 different iPods/iPhones linked to my computer and the media and apps are available to all.

You can't plug in another apple product and grab stuff from the dedicated unit's account.

Wrong. As long as they are all on the same Apple ID, you can. See above.

Looks to me that they have yet another way to slide it right into your dumper. (sans lube)

Its wrong that you're pants were pulled down when you wrote that.

[fezident]

BALLS.
My Verizon contract expires on April 14th... and I had every intention of getting an iPhone the next day. Now... I guess I'll figure out a way to wait it out.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Wrong. I have 4 different iPods/iPhones linked to my computer and the media and apps are available to all.



Wrong. As long as they are all on the same Apple ID, you can. See above.



Its wrong that you're pants were pulled down when you wrote that.

I trust Eli. He's pre-law.

[paulisded]

Don't let the Apple bean counters know about this.

Well, in a way, I guess. But I don't ever use that old itouch so I'm not really doing anything wrong.

[Tenbatsuzen]

BALLS.
My Verizon contract expires on April 14th... and I had every intention of getting an iPhone the next day. Now... I guess I'll figure out a way to wait it out.

I played a hunch and got a 1-year deal on my phone because I had a really good feeling the Iphone was coming. I like my phone, but the functionality and the apps of the Iphone suit my needs so much better.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Don't listen to the haters.

I have a Touch, my wife an iPhone. The apps I buy, whether on my Touch or online on my iTunes appear on my wife's iPhone without an additional charge.

http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/attachments/general-bike-related/10354d1207698853-best-ducati-commercial-ive-ever-seen-borat.jpg

[EliSnow]

I was about to get excited about the news, but then two things occurred to me:

1) Unless Apple ups their security, there's no way my company will have their e-mails available on an iPhone.

2) I love having my 64G Touch so much and I doubt that they'll be offering a 64G iPhone right away.

So when I can get an upgrade in October, I'll probably stick with Blackberry (although I'm not going to get a storm again).

[Tenbatsuzen]

I was about to get excited about the news, but then two things occurred to me:

1) Unless Apple ups their security, there's no way my company will have their e-mails available on an iPhone.

2) I love having my 64G Touch so much and I doubt that they'll be offering a 64G iPhone right away.

So when I can get an upgrade in October, I'll probably stick with Blackberry (although I'm not going to get a storm again).


See, I'd carry my touch with my Iphone like I do now. I just turn on the wifi sharing on my phone, connect the touch, and away I go.

[TheGameHHH]

I like my Blackberry and all my BBM buddies. I own an iTouch so I'm not changing anytime soon. Maybe in 2 years or so, but until then I'm set.

[EliSnow]

See, I'd carry my touch with my Iphone like I do now. I just turn on the wifi sharing on my phone, connect the touch, and away I go.

But you don't need that expensive of a smart phone anyway. Because I have the Touch, the only thing I really need on my cell phone is email capabilities (and maybe the tether aspect). I don't need the bigger screen, or other options (like apps) available on my Touch.

So just pay less for a lower end smartphone.

[Tenbatsuzen]

But you don't need that expensive of a smart phone anyway. Because I have the Touch, the only thing I really need on my cell phone is email capabilities (and maybe the tether aspect). I don't need the bigger screen, or other options (like apps) available on my Touch.

So just pay less for a lower end smartphone.

To be honest, I didn't pay that much for the phone, and one of the reasons I got it was because of its ability to wi-fi share. Not all verizon's smartphones can do that.

To be honest, I don't like the apps on my phone. I like it for it's form factor and the wi-fi sharing. I don't really do that much with it outside of that.

[EliSnow]

To be honest, I didn't pay that much for the phone, and one of the reasons I got it was because of its ability to wi-fi share. Not all verizon's smartphones can do that.

To be honest, I don't like the apps on my phone. I like it for it's form factor and the wi-fi sharing. I don't really do that much with it outside of that.

I guess that's my point. If you can tether to the Touch, I think the touch can get most of the apps the iPhone can (except for stuff linked to cameras). So if you have the Touch, why get the iPhone when a lesser phone (with a tether) will do?

[disneyspy]

will i be able to get 202 on this? i have verizon and didnt really use my last smart phone so i switched carriers,got a dumber phone and got a cheaper plan and better coverage but i would move up to a more expensive plan to get the 202 ap,verizon in bum fucked northern mish rocks

[Hottub]

I just tried to link my kid's iPod to my account. A little experiment to back up my earlier statement.
I was warned if I wanted to link this iPod to my account, the unit would be erased.

[underdog]

I've been checking every day to see when the Nexus One is coming to verizon. Now this happens. I have no idea what to do now.

[Hottub]

A guy at work has the Nexus 1 on T-mobile.
Sweet phone.

Too bad the EVO is going to blow them all away. His, mine, everones.
http://gadgetsdna.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Sprint-Playbook.jpg
There is never a right time for this stuff.

[paulisded]

will i be able to get 202 on this? i have verizon and didnt really use my last smart phone so i switched carriers,got a dumber phone and got a cheaper plan and better coverage but i would move up to a more expensive plan to get the 202 ap,verizon in bum fucked northern mish rocks

Yes, through not only the official SiriusXM app but a couple of other radio apps.

I'm kinda bummed about this, because I bought a droid in November. Like Matty, I'd use both my itouch and iphone. The big reason for me to have an iphone is the simplify app, which would allow me to stream my entire home library (including bootleg FLAC's) in my vehicle.

[EliSnow]

I just tried to link my kid's iPod to my account. A little experiment to back up my earlier statement.
I was warned if I wanted to link this iPod to my account, the unit would be erased.

What happpened?

All I know is that our house has one account and I have 4 iPods/iPhones on it. Why would you have more than 1 account per family anyway?

[Hottub]

What happpened?

All I know is that our house has one account and I have 4 iPods/iPhones on it. Why would you have more than 1 account per family anyway?

Sean is 12, stubborn and wanting to be independent. Plus I don't want him messing with my account. It's linked to my PayPal.

[disneyspy]

Yes, through not only the official SiriusXM app but a couple of other radio apps.

I'm kinda bummed about this, because I bought a droid in November. Like Matty, I'd use both my itouch and iphone. The big reason for me to have an iphone is the simplify app, which would allow me to stream my entire home library (including bootleg FLAC's) in my vehicle.

when this shit comes out,i'm in,expect alot of questions from me this summer,you lucky bastards

[EliSnow]

Sean is 12, stubborn and wanting to be independent. Plus I don't want him messing with my account. It's linked to my PayPal.

Yeah, but then if he ever decides to listen to the same music you do, he couldn't borrow from your music (at least hypothetically -- there's ways around that).

When my kids get that age, they can buy music, but off my account so we don't buy twice of the same stuff and I can keep an eye on their music.

[Furtherman]

Kids and their rock and/or roll music!

[Hottub]

Yeah, but then if he ever decides to listen to the same music you do, he couldn't borrow from your music (at least hypothetically -- there's ways around that).

When my kids get that age, they can buy music, but off my account so we don't buy twice of the same stuff and I can keep an eye on their music.

I need to keep him away from some of my music. At least for now.

[angrymissy]

The iphone for verizon is not coming out this summer, a new iphone is. The verizon one is still in development w no release date.

[disneyspy]

The iphone for verizon is not coming out this summer, a new iphone is. The verizon one is still in development w no release date.

oww,my balls!!

[instrument]

like there wont be a version of the evo on every carrier a month later....sure they won't have LTE coverage of sprint.... but in tests tmobile's 3g is faster than sprints 4g....and honestly who wants a sprint phone?

hell, people clamoring for the nexus one...when vzw will have the htc incredible..which is basically the same phone as the nexus one, minus the physical buttons.

either way, i wonder if unlike at&t verizon will offer insurance on the iphone.... you do know that at&t doesn't insure iphones...

[Death Metal Moe]

The iphone for verizon is not coming out this summer, a new iphone is. The verizon one is still in development w no release date.

Lol, that is exactly what the article says.

FACE TENBATS!!!!!

[EliSnow]

I need to keep him away from some of my music. At least for now.

I undetstand that. From what I've seen (although I've never had to put it to use), there are settings in iTunes that let you restrict what songs are available to certain users/devices.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Gizmodo rightly points out that verizon is switching their call carrying tech to the same as AT&T in a year so it doesn't seem smart economically to invest in a system that will be obsolete in a year.

[sailor]

I guess that's my point. If you can tether to the Touch, I think the touch can get most of the apps the iPhone can (except for stuff linked to cameras). So if you have the Touch, why get the iPhone when a lesser phone (with a tether) will do?

because you're carrying two items around instead of one?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Sean is 12, stubborn and wanting to be independent. Plus I don't want him messing with my account. It's linked to my Asian Tranny Enema Porn.

Fixed.

BTW, I kinda thought summer would be too soon for the Iphone on verizon. If anything, the Verizon Iphone would coincide with Verizon's 4G rollout.

[angrymissy]

Does at&t give a discount on the iphone when you sign a new contract? I think we paid full price when we got my dads. If they don't give a discount when it comes to verizon, it won't matter anyway... you'll pay full price regardless of if you're eligible dor upgrade.

Also, insurance offering would be a must for me to consider an iphone purchase.

[Death Metal Moe]

Im just very happy to hear that exclusivity contract with AT&T is done. I hope it spells the demise of that shitty, inferior carrier. They suck a non-Caucasian dick.

[EliSnow]

because you're carrying two items around instead of one?


Yeah, but until there's a 64g iPhone, Matty and I would be doing that Anyway regardless of the phone.

[EliSnow]

Does at&t give a discount on the iphone when you sign a new contract? I think we paid full price when we got my dads. If they don't give a discount when it comes to verizon, it won't matter anyway... you'll pay full price regardless of if you're eligible dor upgrade.

Also, insurance offering would be a must for me to consider an iphone purchase.

They do. With the two year contract, it's 200. Full price is 500.

I bought my wife's for 200 in November 2008. When it was stolen in June 2009, I had to pay 500 to replace it.

[Death Metal Moe]

What about insurance?

[Hottub]

I pay 7 bucks a month for Ins.

Theft, damage, dropped it in boiling water, or just scuffed up and want a pretty, new one.

[EliSnow]

I pay 7 bucks a month for Ins.

Theft, damage, dropped it in boiling water, or just scuffed up and want a pretty, new one.


I wish we had gotten it back then

[angrymissy]

I wish we had gotten it back then

AT&T doesn't insure the iphones... another reason why I'm not so hot on them.

[underdog]

A guy at work has the Nexus 1 on T-mobile.
Sweet phone.

Too bad the EVO is going to blow them all away. His, mine, everones.
http://gadgetsdna.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Sprint-Playbook.jpg
There is never a right time for this stuff.

Yeah, but that phone is on Sprint. No one is going to buy it or want to.

[Space Edge]

A few things

You can link multiple devices to one account on iTunes so you can have a iPhone, iTouch with the same apps

Apple doesn't offer insurance they offer apple care which is a extended warranty. If you buy your iPhone from BestBuy you can buy their insurance which is much better then Apple care b/c it covers accidental damage, like screen cracks and things like that.

As far as the Verizon thing until Apple comes out and says it I'm taking all the "news" as a rumor.

For those of you worrying about insurance don't buy them from the Apple store, AT&T store or Verizon Store (if that happens) by them from BestBuy they offer insurance for the iPhone.

[biggestmexi]

you won't be able to tether the iphone unless they make it so.

If they do vzw will charge another 30 on top of your already 30 data

[KnoxHarrington]

A few things

You can link multiple devices to one account on iTunes so you can have a iPhone, iTouch with the same apps

Apple doesn't offer insurance they offer apple care which is a extended warranty. If you buy your iPhone from BestBuy you can buy their insurance which is much better then Apple care b/c it covers accidental damage, like screen cracks and things like that.

As far as the Verizon thing until Apple comes out and says it I'm taking all the "news" as a rumor.

For those of you worrying about insurance don't buy them from the Apple store, AT&T store or Verizon Store (if that happens) by them from BestBuy they offer insurance for the iPhone.

Yeah, but Apple's protection plan for the iPhone costs $69 for 2 years. You get a battery replacement during that time as part of that, and that's $79.

Plus, if you have Apple's plan, you can get an advanced replacement on the phone (meaning they send one out to you before you send yours back to them) at no cost. You do have to put a hold on a credit card for the full replacement cost of the phone, but that's released as soon as they get it back.

[Space Edge]

Yeah, but Apple's protection plan for the iPhone costs $69 for 2 years. You get a battery replacement during that time as part of that, and that's $79.

Plus, if you have Apple's plan, you can get an advanced replacement on the phone (meaning they send one out to you before you send yours back to them) at no cost. You do have to put a hold on a credit card for the full replacement cost of the phone, but that's released as soon as they get it back.

Yeah BestBuy is up there with AppleCare, I'm stuck with Apple care now. In order to use BestBuy's program you have to buy from them. My Next iPhone will be purchased there. They cover accidental damage replacement, if something is wrong with your phone the swap it out there like Apple does. The things Apple Care is missing they will cover. I really recommend looking into Best Buy over the Apple Store or AT&T. I purchased my last Macbook Pro from there and I have better coverage with their plan then I would have had if I got Apple Care and it was cheaper also. I would have originally purchased my iPhone from Best Buy but they weren't carrying them when I got my 3G.

Edited to add
The iPhone apple care only last 1 year at least that's what I renewed last August for around $79

[Space Edge]

Verizon iPhone seen as 'unlikely' from Apple in 2010
(http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/30/verizon_iphone_seen_as_unlikely_from_apple_in_2010 .html)

[Dan 'Hampton]

Haha.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Verizon iPhone seen as 'unlikely' from Apple in 2010
(http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/30/verizon_iphone_seen_as_unlikely_from_apple_in_2010 .html)

Same analyst also predicted:

4GB Iphone

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/analyst_new_macs_iphones_on_the_way/

Samsung is helping build the Ipad:

The tablet will run a chip designed by PA Semi and manufactured by Samsung, according to UBS Investment Research's Maynard Um (Source: AppleInsider's Sam Oliver.) Um also says that LG Display (LPL) and AU Optronics (AUO) will supply the screens, Samsung the NAND flash memory, Simplo and Dynapac the batteries and Broadcom (BRCM) the "combo" chip for connectivity.

Also, in January 2010, Maynard Um wrote this:

Accordingly, UBS' Maynard Um recently wrote that a CDMA version of the iPhone will appear in the next product refresh cycle in the summer. "We believe a CDMA iPhone is also in the works, though Verizon Wireless and Apple may currently be apart on pricing," he said in a research note – meaning the two need to work out the discrepancy between the actual handset cost to Verizon vs. the carrier’s consumer subsidy and ROI model.

http://www.phoneplusmag.com/hotnews/verizon-iphone-launch-imminent.html

So, 1) FACE and 2) Maynard Um is a fucking dolt.

[Space Edge]

Until Steve Jobs does his Dog and Pony show to announce it(like they do with every single other apple product ever released), I Won't say it's a definite. I don't have a problem with it going to Verizon. I just don't buy the hype yet since lots of rumors float around about Apple products especially the iPhone that never come true.

Verizon iPhone: What We Know So Far



Yesterday the web was ablaze with new rumors that Apple is developing two iPhones, one of which would be for the Verizon network. Deep-seeded unhappiness with AT&T’s network only helped fuel the rumors across the web.

The reality though is that little is known about the supposed “Verizon iPhone.” Nobody knows if it even exists, and anyone who claims otherwise is lying to you (unless, of course, that person is Steve Jobs).

So, is Verizon getting an iPhone this year? Next year? Does it even exist at all? It’s time to separate rumor from fact and iterate what we know about the mythical Verizon iPhone thus far.

Signs Point to a Verizon iPhone … Eventually
There have been rumors for some time now that Apple would drop AT&T exclusivity, but it has yet to come to fruition. The chatter really started heating up last year when rumors surfaced that Apple and Verizon were already testing a 4G iPhone. Of course, nobody from either company has confirmed it.

Some rumors do match Monday’s Wall Street Journal report, though, giving the Verizon iPhone some life. The assertion that Apple has contracted to produce a CDMA-compatible iPhone for the third quarter 2010 matches the timeframe given in the WSJ for an iPhone on the Verizon network.

There’s more, too. According to TheStreet, a Qualcomm chip will power the Verizon iPhone. And yet more people say that T-Mobile will get the iPhone this summer.

Overall, it’s a hodgepodge of data points, but they seem to point to the eventual dissolution of AT&T-iPhone exclusivity and to the introduction of a Verizon iPhone. It would most likely come late this year or early next year, since production of the device wouldn’t occur until the third quarter of 2010.

And Yet Rumors Are Often Wrong
There is no guarantee that a Verizon iPhone will be announced in June or July — when Apple normally reveals new iPhones — or that Apple will even break AT&T exclusivity. Both the rumor that the iPhone would leave AT&T exclusivity during the iPad event back in January and the assertion that Verizon would carry Apple’s tablet were wrong. Whose to say that any of these other rumors are true?

While Apple may indeed be planning a Verizon iPhone, it can change its plans at any time for any reason. AT&T’s network could improve remarkably in the next few months or Verizon may not offer enough incentives to Apple to satisfy the tech giant — there are just too many possible scenarios.

The truth is that the only person who really knows the fate of the iPhone on the Verizon network is Steve Jobs, and he’s not talking. But the signs do point towards a Verizon iPhone appearing sometime late this year or next year.

Are you waiting for a Verizon iPhone? Would you switch carriers or phones for it? Do you think we’ll see one in the next year? Let us know what you believe in the comments.

http://mashable.com/2010/03/30/verizon-iphone/

[Space Edge]

Same analyst also predicted:

4GB Iphone

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/analyst_new_macs_iphones_on_the_way/

Samsung is helping build the Ipad:

The tablet will run a chip designed by PA Semi and manufactured by Samsung, according to UBS Investment Research's Maynard Um (Source: AppleInsider's Sam Oliver.) Um also says that LG Display (LPL) and AU Optronics (AUO) will supply the screens, Samsung the NAND flash memory, Simplo and Dynapac the batteries and Broadcom (BRCM) the "combo" chip for connectivity.

Also, in January 2010, Maynard Um wrote this:

Accordingly, UBS' Maynard Um recently wrote that a CDMA version of the iPhone will appear in the next product refresh cycle in the summer. "We believe a CDMA iPhone is also in the works, though Verizon Wireless and Apple may currently be apart on pricing," he said in a research note – meaning the two need to work out the discrepancy between the actual handset cost to Verizon vs. the carrier’s consumer subsidy and ROI model.

http://www.phoneplusmag.com/hotnews/verizon-iphone-launch-imminent.html

So, 1) FACE and 2) Maynard Um is a fucking dolt.

Yeah Apple used to have a 4Gig iPhone then they scrapped it and I see why. I have a 16gig iPhone and I'm constantly having to shuffle things around so I have enough space on the device.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jobs keeping the Iphone exclusive on AT&T is just BAD BUSINESS SENSE. He could generate an incredible amount of money by opening up the market, not just for himself, but the developers, which in turn, leads to more innovation.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Yeah Apple used to have a 4Gig iPhone then they scrapped it and I see why. I have a 16gig iPhone and I'm constantly having to shuffle things around so I have enough space on the device.

nice how you avoided the point that the same fucking analyst said verizon Iphone was coming this summer less than three months ago.

[Space Edge]

Jobs keeping the Iphone exclusive on AT&T is just BAD BUSINESS SENSE. He could generate an incredible amount of money by opening up the market, not just for himself, but the developers, which in turn, leads to more innovation.

nice how you avoided the point that the same fucking analyst said verizon Iphone was coming this summer less than three months ago.



There are a couple of thousand bloggers, analysts or whatever you want to call them spinning the rumor mill about Apple products that never come out. They all talk a bunch of shit and hype things up and they never happen. Go back and look at the rumors for the iPhone 3GS or the iPhone 3G or even the iPad. I do agree with you that it should be on more then one carrier here in the U.S. Other countries have it on other carriers so should we. My main point is don't buy the hype until Steve Jobs or Apple comes out and says what they are doing. It has happened in the past where all these sites will put out mock up drawings of the next device or list what the next device will be able to do and when it comes time for Jobs to address it these people are completely wrong. I get that the guy I quoted said one thing and then said something else a few months later most of these people do that. I didn't seek out this particular author and post his articles. I skimmed through the couple of hundred or so articles that came out today about the iPhone not going to Verizon and posted the link.

[biggestmexi]

Jobs keeping the Iphone exclusive on AT&T is just BAD BUSINESS SENSE.

Nothing is bad business when you have fan boys.

[KnoxHarrington]

This is interesting: apparently, AT&T has launched an ambitious program to improve their network:

http://gizmodo.com/5506273/are-you-feeling-atts-100-day-plan-to-fix-their-network?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Now, they've done this before, and it's always kind of seemed to go nowhere, but you gotta wonder if they're feeling pressure to keep people from bolting to Verizon or any other carrier who might get the iPhone.

And something else I'd point out: the US is about the only major market left where the iPhone is still on only one carrier. It's on four carriers in Canada, for example.

[Space Edge]

Another analyst saying Verizon isn't going to get the iPhone but Sprint and T-Mobile will.


Citi: Verizon iPhone Delayed Due to ‘Key Component’ Problems
Another analyst has piled onto the growing sentiment that Verizon will not offer a CDMA iPhone by the middle of 2010 – or not until 2011. Citigroup analyst Richard Gardner said Wednesday a 2-month manufacturing delay in a “key component” will push the CDMA handset’s launch back to the fourth quarter of 2010 or the first quarter of 2011.

The hitch is due to “a manufacturing delay of several months in a key component,” Gardner told investors Wednesday.

The delay apparently is at Taiwan Semiconductor and centers on the phone’s Qualcomm chipset, Gardner explained to Barron’s.

Gardner becomes just the latest analyst to shoot holes in a Monday Wall Street Journal article suggesting Apple would produce a CDMA-based iPhone ready for volume shipping in September. Earlier today, Kaufman Bros. analyst Shaw Wu said Verizon might balk at paying up to three times its usual price for a smartphone. A more likely scenario could be Apple turns to T-Mobile or Sprint to expand its iPhone distribution in the United States, the analyst argues.

On Tuesday, several analysts said a deal with Verizon was ‘unlikely,’ pointing to China or Japan as potentially the first countries to sell the CDMA-based iPhone.

Despite seeming to throw water on the Verizon connection, Gardner was steadfast in the belief between 6 million and 7 million CDMA iPhones would be produced in 2010.
http://www.cultofmac.com/citi-verizon-iphone-delayed-due-to-key-component-problems/36009?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cultofmac%2FbFow+%28Cult+of+M ac%29

[LZMan1]

i personally don't like apple products and have absolutely no interest in a verizon iphone or any for that matter. just had to add my 2 cents. carry on.

[angrymissy]

I won't use anything that doesn't have a physical keyboard, so I have no interest in the iphone. The Droid works well for me, has a shitload of apps, a keyboard, plays music, etc etc. I guess if you already are an apple user, the iphone is a good way to integrate all of your stuff. There was a time when I wanted one for apps, but the android phones have tons of them now.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

i personally don't like apple products and have absolutely no interest in a verizon iphone or any for that matter. just had to add my 2 cents. carry on.

No you're not. I find that most people that are technophiles tend to strongly dislike anything that isn't mod friendly (especially hardware). People like options and Apple is the furthest thing from that.

Too bad we're outweighed by the fanbois. . .















like Mexi.

[biggestmexi]

No you're not. I find that most people that are technophiles tend to strongly dislike anything that isn't mod friendly (especially hardware). People like options and Apple is the furthest thing from that.

Too bad we're outweighed by the fanbois. . .















like Mexi.

deek

if you have anything other thatn an iphone your l33t SX0Rz.

[TjM]

I'm sticking to my first gen Google Phone

[Tenbatsuzen]

Another analyst saying Verizon isn't going to get the iPhone but Sprint and T-Mobile will.


http://www.cultofmac.com/citi-verizon-iphone-delayed-due-to-key-component-problems/36009?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cultofmac%2FbFow+%28Cult+of+M ac%29

That analyst is a fucking dolt as well. If the phone can't run on Verizon, it can't run on Sprint, they use the same network.

[Space Edge]

That analyst is a fucking dolt as well. If the phone can't run on Verizon, it can't run on Sprint, they use the same network.

There are tons of articles circulating now saying it's going to happen and tons of articles saying it's not going to happen. So who is correct? Until Apple comes out and says it I take it all as nothing more then speculation. Once again I'm not against it going to Verizon I'm not getting all excited about it since every year around this time crazy rumors fly around the internet that never happen.

Here is a article talking about Apple and Verizon rumors dating back to 2008
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/03/iphone-verizon.html

[sailor]

That analyst is a fucking dolt as well. If the phone can't run on Verizon, it can't run on Sprint, they use the same network.

i'm certain you know more about it than him.

[LZMan1]

No you're not. I find that most people that are technophiles tend to strongly dislike anything that isn't mod friendly (especially hardware). People like options and Apple is the furthest thing from that.

Too bad we're outweighed by the fanbois. . .















like Mexi.

and me! love my droid!

[KnoxHarrington]

i'm certain you know more about it than him.

It's not the same network, but they're both CDMA-based networks.

The only other network that the iPhone could run on currently without hardware modification is T-Mobile.

[Space Edge]

AT&T extends exclusivity with Apple, no Verizon iPhone until 2011?


Take this one with the largest grain of salt that you can find…the latest rumor on the status of the Verizon Wireless iPhone suggests that the phone may not come to fruition until 2011. As we all know, AT&T is offering data plans for the iPad on a non-contract basis at the lowly price of $15 for 250MB of data and $30 for unlimited data. According to analyst Brian Marshall of BroadPoint AmTech, AT&T would not have agreed to such a drastic price reduction, and no-contract plans, without receiving something big from Apple in return. That “big something”, he hypothesizes, is an extension of the iPhone exclusivity agreement that AT&T currently has enjoyed with Apple in the U.S. Under this quid pro quo agreement, AT&T’s exclusivity would be extended until the end of 2010, effectively shuttering any plans to launch the iPhone on Big Red in 2010.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/06/att-extends-exclusivity-with-apple-no-verizon-iphone-until-2011/

[Serpico1103]

AT&T extends exclusivity with Apple, no Verizon iPhone until 2011?




http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/06/att-extends-exclusivity-with-apple-no-verizon-iphone-until-2011/

"Of course given that Marshall provides no evidence (or even anonymous sourcing) for his statement -- he could obviously be wrong."http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Analyst-No-Verizon-iPhone-Until-2011-108280

Just an analyst guessing, hoping he guesses right and can than claim it as a victory.
Speculate, speculate.

[Freitag]

AT&T extends exclusivity with Apple, no Verizon iPhone until 2011?




http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/06/att-extends-exclusivity-with-apple-no-verizon-iphone-until-2011/

Shocking that an analyst says this. I wonder where he gets such knowledge?

Oh wait, I know!

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2660674&postcount=43

[instrument]

i wouldnt be surprised if this wasn't true...if apple does a vzw iphone they'll wait till vzw's 4g network is in place. Seeing att and vzw are both going with LTE for their 4g roll out, this would make sense.

[Space Edge]

Shocking that an analyst says this. I wonder where he gets such knowledge?

Oh wait, I know!

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2660674&postcount=43

While you did make a good point, I don't think he got that idea from you. This might be a blow to your ego but I highly doubt the author of the article I posted is following a message board dedicated to a dying radio show.

Why aren't you a tech analyst / tech blogger?

[Tenbatsuzen]

While you did make a good point, I don't think he got that idea from you. This might be a blow to your ego but I highly doubt the author of the article I posted is following a message board dedicated to a dying radio show.

Why aren't you a tech analyst / tech blogger?

Considering how I pointed out the failings of two analysts in this thread, I'm wondering that myself. Clearly, my talents are being wasted.

[KnoxHarrington]

Here's the thing: so much has leaked about Apple working on a CDMA phone that could work on Verizon, it's probably true.

I think the way to figure out which Apple rumors might be true and which ones are absolute bullshit is to sort of look at it and see which ones keep coming up. If a story appears out of nowhere, and has only one person saying it, it's probably bullshit. But if it's a story getting some real play, there's something to it.

[Space Edge]

Considering how I pointed out the failings of two analysts in this thread, I'm wondering that myself. Clearly, my talents are being wasted.

Out of curiosity, You started this thread saying Verizon getting the iPhone is a done deal, It's absolutely going to happen, no doubt about it. Then you posted in that other thread that Apple must have made a deal with AT&T that will prevent that. Which scenario are you leaning towards now as the date of the announcement is coming? Like I posted a few times I have no problems with a Verizon iPhone so I'm not against it. I'm just waiting to hear it from the horses mouth (Apple or Verizon.)

I've set up a RSS feed to catch your next Tech Blog about this. :)

Here's the thing: so much has leaked about Apple working on a CDMA phone that could work on Verizon, it's probably true.

I think the way to figure out which Apple rumors might be true and which ones are absolute bullshit is to sort of look at it and see which ones keep coming up. If a story appears out of nowhere, and has only one person saying it, it's probably bullshit. But if it's a story getting some real play, there's something to it.

I take them all with a grain of salt. If they do go with Verizon both companies will make a big deal out of it. I guess we will find out soon June isn't that far away.

[Freitag]

Out of curiosity, You started this thread saying Verizon getting the iPhone is a done deal, It's absolutely going to happen, no doubt about it. Then you posted in that other thread that Apple must have made a deal with AT&T that will prevent that. Which scenario are you leaning towards now as the date of the announcement is coming? Like I posted a few times I have no problems with a Verizon iPhone so I'm not against it. I'm just waiting to hear it from the horses mouth (Apple or Verizon.)

I've set up a RSS feed to catch your next Tech Blog about this. :)



I actually posted that I had suspicions about AT&T's exclusivity being extended when the Ipad was first released back in Jan/Feb. THEN came the announcement in the WSJ about the Verizon Iphone.

My original train of thought is that Verizon is not going to get the Iphone until their 4G network is rolled out. As most people keep their phones for 2 years, Verizon wants the best possible network and not screw people by having people with 3G phones on a 4g capable network.

We'll know in a month. At this point, I'm leaning towards Verizon NOT getting the Iphone until next year.

[Space Edge]

Let's just lock this thread until 2012

Apple Confirms AT&T Has iPhone Exclusivity Until 2012 (http://mashable.com/2010/05/10/att-iphone-exclusivity-5-years/)

[brettmojo]

Let's just lock this thread until 2012

Apple Confirms AT&T Has iPhone Exclusivity Until 2012 (http://mashable.com/2010/05/10/att-iphone-exclusivity-5-years/)
FUCK. Looks like it's a Droid for me.

[underdog]

FUCK. Looks like it's a Droid for me.

Get an Incredible.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Or get an Ally, depending on the features announced

[brettmojo]

Get an Incredible.
Is that Verizon?

[underdog]

Is that Verizon?

Yep. I think it's called the Droid Incredible now.

It's the first phone I've had that I don't have iPhone envy with.

[Freitag]

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/11/verizon_advertising_partner_rumored_to_be_working_ on_iphone_campaign.html

Take that with a grain of salt. Apple always did the Iphone ads, not AT&T. So who knows what the hell is going on.

Apple does ALL the branding for the Iphone. All of it. Print, TV, etc.

[Space Edge]

Fuckers need to make up their mind


Report: 10 million CDMA iPhones on order
(http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/05/13/report-10-million-cdma-iphones-on-order/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheBoyGeniusReport+%28Boy+Gen ius+Report%29)

[Tenbatsuzen]

WE REALLY MEAN IT THIS TIME, I SWEAR

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html?m od=e2tw

[SouthSideJohnny]

Many years ago, I waited forever for Verizon to get the Motorola Razr. Then, a while after that, I waited for Verizon to get the BB Curve. Both times, I kept hearing that it would be next month or later this quarter. Verizon's service was always great, but they were always late getting the phones I wanted.

After months of waiting for a Verizon iphone. I debated whether to wait and see if Verizon came out with a 4g iphone early this year since Verizon is starting to roll out 4g in South Florida. Finally said fuck it, switched to Sprint, and picked up Samsung Epic 4g's for my wife and myself. We could not be happier. So far, Sprint coverage and signal strength has been perfect. Got the phones for $99 each, and I'm saving $50 per month on the plan. I have a fun phone, 4g signal (which I don't even use much) with a keyboard if I want to use it, and every app I can think of, for less money every month. Even at 3g speed, the Epic is MUCH faster on the internet than my BB ever was. At this point, I couldn't care less whether Verizon ever gets the iphone. Fuck em; I would have paid handsomely for it years ago, if they had it.

[spoon]

Sprint is so fucking bad up here in the NY Metro area it isn't even on the radar for most of us. Choice is never a terrible thing, but I can't imagine it having the impact it would have a year ago even. Droid's platform through Motorolla and HTC among others have significantly changed the need here. I'm sure some apple freaks will make the trade quick if not already wtih AT&T, but I don't see many advantages to the IPhone at this point. Battery is a huge one I can think of off the top of my head.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Sprint is so fucking bad up here in the NY Metro area it isn't even on the radar for most of us. Choice is never a terrible thing, but I can't imagine it having the impact it would have a year ago even. Droid's platform through Motorolla and HTC among others have significantly changed the need here. I'm sure some apple freaks will make the trade quick if not already wtih AT&T, but I don't see many advantages to the IPhone at this point. Battery is a huge one I can think of off the top of my head.

I'm not an apple freak, but I have yet to come across an Android phone that meets everything I want. My issues with the Droid and Droid 2 are well documented. I want a simple non-bloated OS (which would be HTC Sense), along with a decent keyboard and build quality. I thought all of those issues would be resolved with the HTC Merge, but that phone appears to be vaporware at this point.

So if it's an Iphone 4, then my problems could be solved with this:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/e66e/?pfm=rightcolumn_NewStuffFTW_7

[Snacks]

if you dont want a touch screen keyboard why buy an iphone in the 1st place even with that stupid flip keyboard that would make the phone thicker? Just get a droid, they seem to be better anyway and more affordable and on every network

As for sprint. I had sprint for 7 years then TMobile for 6 years and then Metro. I have never had any service problems with any of them. Metro lost some calls but its still building its network but it also didnt happen often just a couple of times. Maybe its because Im so close to NYC and we have tons of towers? But even when I used to travel a lot I always had service with Sprint.

[Tenbatsuzen]

if you dont want a touch screen keyboard why buy an iphone in the 1st place even with that stupid flip keyboard that would make the phone thicker? Just get a droid, they seem to be better anyway and more affordable and on every network

As for sprint. I had sprint for 7 years then TMobile for 6 years and then Metro. I have never had any service problems with any of them. Metro lost some calls but its still building its network but it also didnt happen often just a couple of times. Maybe its because Im so close to NYC and we have tons of towers? But even when I used to travel a lot I always had service with Sprint.

I don't have a problem with a touch screen, but I mainly use my phone for text messages, so I prefer a tactile keyboard for that. I like having the option.

Droids don't work for me because I have large hands and the top row of the Droid and Droid 2's keyboard is too close to the screen for me to manipulate comfortably.

[spoon]

I don't have a problem with a touch screen, but I mainly use my phone for text messages, so I prefer a tactile keyboard for that. I like having the option.

Droids don't work for me because I have large hands and the top row of the Droid and Droid 2's keyboard is too close to the screen for me to manipulate comfortably.

Even without the case on it? I had the same issue and not using a case helped in a big way. And explain exactly what you mean with your other issues bc I haven't read any of your issues in other threads you say that document them.

[underdog]

Sprint is so fucking bad up here in the NY Metro area it isn't even on the radar for most of us. Choice is never a terrible thing, but I can't imagine it having the impact it would have a year ago even. Droid's platform through Motorolla and HTC among others have significantly changed the need here. I'm sure some apple freaks will make the trade quick if not already wtih AT&T, but I don't see many advantages to the IPhone at this point. Battery is a huge one I can think of off the top of my head.

Yeah, I feel like verizon missed their chance to make a huge impact with the iphone. A bunch of people will switch over, but if this was a year or two ago, android never gets anywhere close to where it is now.

[underdog]

I don't have a problem with a touch screen, but I mainly use my phone for text messages, so I prefer a tactile keyboard for that. I like having the option.

Droids don't work for me because I have large hands and the top row of the Droid and Droid 2's keyboard is too close to the screen for me to manipulate comfortably.

Wait, you use your phone for [/i]text messaging[/i]? CRAZY! What is this, the future!?

An on screen keyboard is virtually the same as a normal keyboard.

Your need for a physical keyboard is borderline retarded.

[weekapaugjz]

Your need for a physical keyboard is borderline retarded.

no it's not. my phone has full keyboard and a touch one, but i HATE the touch keyboard. i never use it.

[spoon]

Wait, you use your phone for [/i]text messaging[/i]? CRAZY! What is this, the future!?

An on screen keyboard is virtually the same as a normal keyboard.

Your need for a physical keyboard is borderline retarded.


Fuck this is going to hurt, but I agree with Matt. I prefer a physical keyboard as well and only deal with the onscreen keyboards when I have to. Just not the same feel, functioning level as with a physical keyboard where I can fly with no issues.

[HBox]

Yeah, I feel like verizon missed their chance to make a huge impact with the iphone. A bunch of people will switch over, but if this was a year or two ago, android never gets anywhere close to where it is now.

I think Verizon is as happy as can be about that. They get their iPhone and Google still stands as a more than viable competitor to Apple and, to Verizon, a more financially lucrative partner. Verizon was locked out of the iPhone for how long now? And yet they are still the number one wireless carrier in the US.

It's Apple who missed their chance to lock down the smartphone market. By choosing a short-sighted money grab with a long-term exclusive deal with a wireless carrier (and AT&T at that) they allowed an outside carrier (in this case Verizon) to team up with just about every other cell phone manufacturer (Motorola, Samsung, HTC, LG) and champion Android, allowing it to skyrocket in popularity.

If iPhone had gone to all the carriers immediately, or at least after a very short-term exclusivity period, Android would have never blown up like it has.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Even without the case on it? I had the same issue and not using a case helped in a big way. And explain exactly what you mean with your other issues bc I haven't read any of your issues in other threads you say that document them.

I was playing with the stock Droid and Droid 2 in the VZW store, no case, had issues.

As for documenting other issues:

http://ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2762888&postcount=1517

http://ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2773264&postcount=1590

[spoon]

I think Verizon is as happy as can be about that. They get their iPhone and Google still stands as a more than viable competitor to Apple and, to Verizon, a more financially lucrative partner. Verizon was locked out of the iPhone for how long now? And yet they are still the number one wireless carrier in the US.

It's Apple who missed their chance to lock down the smartphone market. By choosing a short-sighted money grab with a long-term exclusive deal with a wireless carrier (and AT&T at that) they allowed an outside carrier (in this case Verizon) to team up with just about every other cell phone manufacturer (Motorola, Samsung, HTC, LG) and champion Android, allowing it to skyrocket in popularity.

If iPhone had gone to all the carriers immediately, or at least after a very short-term exclusivity period, Android would have never blown up like it has.

That's pretty much what I meant by my point, not the Verizon angle Udog took. I won't be running out to switch, but will look at both when getting a new phone perhaps. That's about it. Last year however I would have jumped on the Iphone, but leaving Verizon wasn't worth it for me.

[underdog]

no it's not. my phone has full keyboard and a touch one, but i HATE the touch keyboard. i never use it.

Use swype.

[Space Edge]

So far from everything I have read it won't be a new model iPhone it will just be the iPhone4 with a CDMA radio. Apple isn't holding the dog and pony show because they don't want to get involved with the which carrier is better they will simply say we are happy to have Verizon as a iPhone carrier.

Matty if you really want a iPhone they make cases that attach the to the phone that have a psychical keyboard. I haven't seen or used one but they are all over the net. I think if you use the touch screen for a week or two you will eventually adapt to it.

[underdog]

I think Verizon is as happy as can be about that. They get their iPhone and Google still stands as a more than viable competitor to Apple and, to Verizon, a more financially lucrative partner. Verizon was locked out of the iPhone for how long now? And yet they are still the number one wireless carrier in the US.

It's Apple who missed their chance to lock down the smartphone market. By choosing a short-sighted money grab with a long-term exclusive deal with a wireless carrier (and AT&T at that) they allowed an outside carrier (in this case Verizon) to team up with just about every other cell phone manufacturer (Motorola, Samsung, HTC, LG) and champion Android, allowing it to skyrocket in popularity.

If iPhone had gone to all the carriers immediately, or at least after a very short-term exclusivity period, Android would have never blown up like it has.

You're probably right, as it was definitely apple that missed out on all new customers.

It's their own fucking fault, anyway. They could have launched with Verizon but decided to be as dickish as verizon was being.

[Space Edge]

Also didn't Verizon recently do away with their early phone upgrade program ? And aren't they going to eventually move away from a unlimited data plan? These could all be clues that this is deff going to happen.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Use swype.

Seriously, could you get more mexi with your answer? Can't you just understand that some people like actual tactile feedback when communicating and don't like autocorrect and all that shit?

Don't be so fucking elitist. Missy, Weeka, myself, and a bunch of others have said WE LIKE PHYSICAL KEYBOARDS. Phones are out there with keyboards. There is a market. Jesus.

[underdog]

Seriously, could you get more mexi with your answer? Can't you just understand that some people like actual tactile feedback when communicating and don't like autocorrect and all that shit?

Don't be so fucking elitist. Missy, Weeka, myself, and a bunch of others have said WE LIKE PHYSICAL KEYBOARDS. Phones are out there with keyboards. There is a market. Jesus.

I couldn't imagine ever living without a physical keyboard before. I got my blackberry storm and was lost for quite some time, and never thought I'd get used to it.

You get used to it and stop caring about it after a while. Your solution is to turn the iphone into a brick. Just buy a jitterbug, grandma.

[biggestmexi]

I'm not an apple freak, but I have yet to come across an Android phone that meets everything I want. My issues with the Droid and Droid 2 are well documented. I want a simple non-bloated OS (which would be HTC Sense), along with a decent keyboard and build quality. I thought all of those issues would be resolved with the HTC Merge, but that phone appears to be vaporware at this point.

So if it's an Iphone 4, then my problems could be solved with this:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/e66e/?pfm=rightcolumn_NewStuffFTW_7

I want you to die.

[underdog]

Seriously, could you get more mexi with your answer? Can't you just understand that some people like actual tactile feedback when communicating and don't like autocorrect and all that shit?

Don't be so fucking elitist. Missy, Weeka, myself, and a bunch of others have said WE LIKE PHYSICAL KEYBOARDS. Phones are out there with keyboards. There is a market. Jesus.

And fucking seriously, use swype. My swype expired for 2 weeks and I couldn't function on my phone. It's literally changed the way I use cell phones. I'm as attached to my swype as you are to your typewriter.

[underdog]

I want you to die.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Tenbatsuzen]

I couldn't imagine ever living without a physical keyboard before. I got my blackberry storm and was lost for quite some time, and never thought I'd get used to it.

You get used to it and stop caring about it after a while. Your solution is to turn the iphone into a brick. Just buy a jitterbug, grandma.

OK. Listen carefully: I got a phone with a touch screen keyboard. I tried using it. A lot. In case I wanted to go to Iphone. I didn't like it. I couldn't get used to it.

My Iphone solution was custom-made by think geek, a company that SEES A MARKET.

Again, this isn't about "getting used to it" - people don't like change. YOUR experience should not be uniform for EVERYONE. Some people like chocolate, some people like vanilla.

[underdog]

people don't like change.

Is that supposed to be a good thing?

SARAH PALIN 2012!

Also, THERE WERE NO FUCKING KEYBOARDS ON PHONES LIKE 5 YEARS AGO. A keyboard on a phone is fucking change.

[biggestmexi]

Seriously, could you get more mexi with your answer? Can't you just understand that some people like actual tactile feedback when communicating and don't like autocorrect and all that shit?

Don't be so fucking elitist. Missy, Weeka, myself, and a bunch of others have said WE LIKE PHYSICAL KEYBOARDS. Phones are out there with keyboards. There is a market. Jesus.

carry a fucking key board or live with T9 you bitch.

[biggestmexi]

And fucking seriously, use swype. My swype expired for 2 weeks and I couldn't function on my phone. It's literally changed the way I use cell phones. I'm as attached to my swype as you are to your typewriter.

that happened to me on my first droid.

i was like what is this "LIFT MY FINGER" concept.

I felt like a rube "tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap."

[sailor]

Wait, you use your phone for [/i]text messaging[/i]? CRAZY! What is this, the future!?

An on screen keyboard is virtually the same as a normal keyboard.

Your need for a physical keyboard is borderline retarded.

a physical keyboard is a waste of everything.

[sailor]

That's pretty much what I meant by my point, not the Verizon angle Udog took. I won't be running out to switch, but will look at both when getting a new phone perhaps. That's about it. Last year however I would have jumped on the Iphone, but leaving Verizon wasn't worth it for me.

thank you for not being gay and using vzw.

[TripleSkeet]

I cant use the touchscreen keyboard either. Im contstantly mispelling words when I try. Its fucking annoying and takes me 3 times longer to write something.

Ive got the Droid 2 and I love it. When my deals up if Verizon has an IPhone with a physical keyboard attached Ill look into it, but if not Ill see what else they have. For me thats a HUGE selling point and the reason I bought the Droid 2 over the Droid X.

[biggestmexi]

I cant use the touchscreen keyboard either. Im contstantly mispelling words when I try. Its fucking annoying and takes me 3 times longer to write something.

Ive got the Droid 2 and I love it. When my deals up if Verizon has an IPhone with a physical keyboard attached Ill look into it, but if not Ill see what else they have. For me thats a HUGE selling point and the reason I bought the Droid 2 over the Droid X.

the keys in landscape on the DX are as big as the keyboard keys on the D2

[Snacks]

I cant use the touchscreen keyboard either. Im contstantly mispelling words when I try. Its fucking annoying and takes me 3 times longer to write something.

Ive got the Droid 2 and I love it. When my deals up if Verizon has an IPhone with a physical keyboard attached Ill look into it, but if not Ill see what else they have. For me thats a HUGE selling point and the reason I bought the Droid 2 over the Droid X.

iphone will probably never have a full non touchscreen keyboard. I cant see them going backwards even though many people feel the exact same way as you about it. I have never liked touch screens either but I have been using the one on my tablet e reader thing and it hasnt been bad. But then again its 7" not 3" like cellphone keyboards are!

[Dan 'Hampton]

I'm a big dude, 6'2 220, large carpenter fingers. My wife and brother busted my balls that I'd have a hard time with iPhone touchscreen. They're wrong. Like anything it takes getting used to but pretty damn easy. You desk jockey faggots can handle it.

[spoon]

thank you for not being gay and using vzw.

You're welcome? :unsure:

[spoon]

D2 here too for pretty much the same reasons at TS. I find it fucking hilarious that Udog and Mexi are such hipster douches talking about a FUCKING KEYBOARD?! Who gives a fuck when you can chose either!? I like a physical calendar too, am I retarded that I don't like having EVERYTHING in a PDA/phone type setup?! I have both, but like the physical backup and the ability to see it all with notes and more. Everything doesn't have to be what they tell you is the next step. And fuck you both for making me somewhat defend Tenbats. Seriously, fuck yourselves! :innocent:

[underdog]

D2 here too for pretty much the same reasons at TS. I find it fucking hilarious that Udog and Mexi are such hipster douches talking about a FUCKING KEYBOARD?! Who gives a fuck when you can chose either!? I like a physical calendar too, am I retarded that I don't like having EVERYTHING in a PDA/phone type setup?! I have both, but like the physical backup and the ability to see it all with notes and more. Everything doesn't have to be what they tell you is the next step. And fuck you both for making me somewhat defend Tenbats. Seriously, fuck yourselves! :innocent:

I don't give a shit what phone anyone uses. I just like going after Tenbats.

[underdog]

D2 here too for pretty much the same reasons at TS. I find it fucking hilarious that Udog and Mexi are such hipster douches talking about a FUCKING KEYBOARD?! Who gives a fuck when you can chose either!? I like a physical calendar too, am I retarded that I don't like having EVERYTHING in a PDA/phone type setup?! I have both, but like the physical backup and the ability to see it all with notes and more. Everything doesn't have to be what they tell you is the next step. And fuck you both for making me somewhat defend Tenbats. Seriously, fuck yourselves! :innocent:

Also, if you have a droid phone, the calendar backs up to your gmail calendar pretty nicely. Who uses a physical calendar anymore? Are you still on dial up?

[biggestmexi]

D2 here too for pretty much the same reasons at TS. I find it fucking hilarious that Udog and Mexi are such hipster douches talking about a FUCKING KEYBOARD?! Who gives a fuck when you can chose either!? I like a physical calendar too, am I retarded that I don't like having EVERYTHING in a PDA/phone type setup?! I have both, but like the physical backup and the ability to see it all with notes and more. Everything doesn't have to be what they tell you is the next step. And fuck you both for making me somewhat defend Tenbats. Seriously, fuck yourselves! :innocent:

We are a hipster because or phones don't have keyboards?

Lol! I guess hipster is the weird for majority huh?

Lol calender on these phones are great. Even though I use neither.

[spoon]

Also, if you have a droid phone, the calendar backs up to your gmail calendar pretty nicely. Who uses a physical calendar anymore? Are you still on dial up?

Yes, two digital applications that don't work for me, period. It's not the same, I've used it all and still use cals like that but not in transit/in the field that often. The point is, some people like different versions and it actually saves me a TON of time versus putting it all into a dig calendar along with all my constant notes and updates. Dial up is 20 steps backwards, not a preference in media.

As for the ripping Tenbats though, I understand completely. Just watch out for his Telecom Hat!

[spoon]

We are a hipster because or phones don't have keyboards?

Lol! I guess hipster is the weird for majority huh?

Lol calender on these phones are great. Even though I use neither.

No douche, you're a hipster bc you act above someone for completely ridiculous reasons. A snarky cunt bc you're into some form of new app, phone or tech all too often around rf.net when you bother to leave your MPW haven. You, way more so than Udog, throw this act around in these threads and it's unbearable.

You may want to get a better keyboard though bc that post was a fucking mess. I guess you need a physical keyboard to help you type better! :lol:

[TripleSkeet]

I actually keep a physical calendar at work and at home. I never use the calendar on my phone.

[spoon]

I actually keep a physical calendar at work and at home. I never use the calendar on my phone.

You must use DIAL UP! :wallbash:


No the difference is you aren't listing when you'll be playing World of Warcraft with your buddies you compare apps with at a JustJon presentation at the recent "Meat & Tweet". You just don't get cooler than Mexi and his betaMPWv3 calendar app. It's just not possible.

[underdog]

You must use DIAL UP! :wallbash:


No the difference is you aren't listing when you'll be playing World of Warcraft with your buddies you compare apps with at a JustJon presentation at the recent "Meat & Tweet". You just don't get cooler than Mexi and his betaMPWv3 calendar app. It's just not possible.

I get emails with conference calls and meeting dates, and I can just click on the right side of my gmail and it adds it to the calendar. I then get email and phone updates prior to the meeting. It's pretty fucking awesome, actually. If you use your regular calendar a lot, I highly suggest trying out google calendar. It's amazing.

I'm also out of my office quite a bit, so a physical calendar would do me no good. But google calendar has made my work life manageable.

[spoon]

I get emails with conference calls and meeting dates, and I can just click on the right side of my gmail and it adds it to the calendar. I then get email and phone updates prior to the meeting. It's pretty fucking awesome, actually. If you use your regular calendar a lot, I highly suggest trying out google calendar. It's amazing.

I'm also out of my office quite a bit, so a physical calendar would do me no good. But google calendar has made my work life manageable.

Yah, I have the same shit with my work account and use it for things like THAT only.

[underdog]

Yah, I have the same shit with my work account and use it for things like THAT only.

So there we have it, spoon admits that I'm right.

[spoon]

So there we have it, spoon admits that I'm right.

If that's what you got from that, you need it more than I thought.

[underdog]

If that's what you got from that, you need it more than I thought.

I love you, too, spoony.

[biggestmexi]

No douche, you're a hipster bc you act above someone for completely ridiculous reasons. A snarky cunt bc you're into some form of new app, phone or tech all too often around rf.net when you bother to leave your MPW haven. You, way more so than Udog, throw this act around in these threads and it's unbearable.

You may want to get a better keyboard though bc that post was a fucking mess. I guess you need a physical keyboard to help you type better! :lol:

FYI i barely post on that board, but keep trying grandpa.

youll get something sooner or later.

[spoon]

FYI i barely post on that board, but keep trying grandpa.

youll get something sooner or later.

You still can't type on that thing? Come on, do you have webbed fingers or did you lose fingers due to frostbite due to sticking them up ur own ass?

[biggestmexi]

You still can't type on that thing? Come on, do you have webbed fingers or did you lose fingers due to frostbite due to sticking them up ur own ass?

wow, you're really reaching aren't you.

Especially since you cant even make poignant points.

sad really.

Not to mention your horrible understanding of something so simple as frostbite.

Oh Gramps.

[angrymissy]

Seriously, could you get more mexi with your answer? Can't you just understand that some people like actual tactile feedback when communicating and don't like autocorrect and all that shit?

Don't be so fucking elitist. Missy, Weeka, myself, and a bunch of others have said WE LIKE PHYSICAL KEYBOARDS. Phones are out there with keyboards. There is a market. Jesus.

...

... ...

after I started using swype, I now use the touch screen exclusively. SORRY

Jeff still uses the regular keyboard

[underdog]

...

... ...

after I started using swype, I now use the touch screen exclusively. SORRY

Jeff still uses the regular keyboard

Now it's your turn, Weeka. Leave Matty all by himself.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Now it's your turn, Weeka. Leave Matty all by himself.

Tenbats Island, bitches.

[weekapaugjz]

Now it's your turn, Weeka. Leave Matty all by himself.

not gonna happen. i like the buttons. call me an old-fashioned loser, but that's what i like.

Tenbats Island, bitches.

that's terrible.

[biggestmexi]

not gonna happen. i like the buttons. call me an old-fashioned loser, but that's what i like.

old-fashioned loser.

you really cant get mad at me for that.

[angrymissy]

I was a die hard keyboard loyalist as well, you can probably find my posts here regarding it. Swype changed all of that. you can just type so much faster with it, that my next phone will have no keyboard.

[CountryBob]

I was a die hard keyboard loyalist as well, you can probably find my posts here regarding it. Swype changed all of that. you can just type so much faster with it, that my next phone will have no keyboard.

Is Swype a free app or do you have to pay? I am about a week out from getting a Droid x.

[underdog]

Is Swype a free app or do you have to pay? I am about a week out from getting a Droid x.

It's free.

But if it were a paid app, it would be completely worth it.

[Fallon]

I was a die hard keyboard loyalist as well, you can probably find my posts here regarding it. Swype changed all of that. you can just type so much faster with it, that my next phone will have no keyboard.

I love swype and get bullshit when I actually have to type a word it might not recognize.

[biggestmexi]

huh^

anyway.

40 minutes......

wheres matty and why does he even care?

Hoping for a keyboard?

[biggestmexi]

"Today we're partnering with a giant of the industry, and that's Apple."

[biggestmexi]

"Late in 2010 we started offering the iPad... today, we are extremely gratified to announce that the iPhone 4 will be available early next month."

[CountryBob]

"Late in 2010 we started offering the iPad... today, we are extremely gratified to announce that the iPhone 4 will be available early next month."

Would it be a smart move to buy the IPhone now or go ahead and get the Droid x?

[biggestmexi]

Would it be a smart move to buy the IPhone now or go ahead and get the Droid x?

Are you in dier need? Id test them both out for sure.

But the dual-core LTE phones come out in mid-summer (rumored)

[underdog]

Would it be a smart move to buy the IPhone now or go ahead and get the Droid x?

Apple likes to drop new phones every june/july. I'd hold out for that, if you want a verizon iphone.

[CountryBob]

I have to get one soon - cant wait any longer to update my Curve.
Prob gonna go with Droid x and give it a year or so for them to work out the kinks etc for the 4g shit.

[spoon]

Apple likes to drop new phones every june/july. I'd hold out for that, if you want a verizon iphone.

I heard from a friend at T-mobile this may actually be out by Feb's end? Seems a little fast, but he said at the latest. We'll see.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Would it be a smart move to buy the IPhone now or go ahead and get the Droid x?

Apple likes to drop new phones every june/july. I'd hold out for that, if you want a verizon iphone.

I'm in agreement. There's always kinks with the first release of a product, especially the Iphone. I would not be an early adopter on this - I'd wait.

Plus Verizon is doing away with early upgrades, so it you want the phone, you're stuck with it for 20 months at least. So I'd wait for the 5th gen.

[Space Edge]

I'm in agreement. There's always kinks with the first release of a product, especially the Iphone. I would not be an early adopter on this - I'd wait.

Plus Verizon is doing away with early upgrades, so it you want the phone, you're stuck with it for 20 months at least. So I'd wait for the 5th gen.

If Verizon gets the 5th gen in June when AT&T gets it. I don't see that happening since they just released a Verizon iPhone a few months before Apple usually refreshes their phones. Maybe they are waiting to do the 5th gen next year? Maybe Verizon will get it also? I've read a few places that Verizon will get the new iPad 2, I wonder if AT&T will get it? I'm sure we will find out soon since it's almost time for the iPad refresh.

[Snacks]

I heard from a friend at T-mobile this may actually be out by Feb's end? Seems a little fast, but he said at the latest. We'll see.

http://www.apple.com/?aosid=p204&siteid=1503186&program_id=2554&cid=OAS-EMEA-AFF&tduid=920183682939f5b574cb7d6114c92fe3

they will be out early feb!

[Tenbatsuzen]

If Verizon gets the 5th gen in June when AT&T gets it. I don't see that happening since they just released a Verizon iPhone a few months before Apple usually refreshes their phones. Maybe they are waiting to do the 5th gen next year? Maybe Verizon will get it also? I've read a few places that Verizon will get the new iPad 2, I wonder if AT&T will get it? I'm sure we will find out soon since it's almost time for the iPad refresh.

From a production standpoint, doesn't make sense to have VZW one generation behind AT&T, unless that was the out AT&T gave for the mythical exclusivity contract - VZW is allowed the Iphone, but it's always six months behind AT&T.

Doesn't make sense to me though. I'm guessing when Iphone 5 comes out, it's for both. Like the Ipad has wifi and 3G.

[underdog]

http://www.apple.com/?aosid=p204&siteid=1503186&program_id=2554&cid=OAS-EMEA-AFF&tduid=920183682939f5b574cb7d6114c92fe3

they will be out early feb!

We're talking about the new iphone.

[biggestmexi]

I'm in agreement. There's always kinks with the first release of a product, especially the Iphone. I would not be an early adopter on this - I'd wait.
.

The only difference is a better antenna design that wont drop when you grip it and the CDMA antenna.

sigh......:down:

[Snacks]

We're talking about the new iphone.

isnt the newest iphone the iphone 4 ?

[underdog]

isnt the newest iphone the iphone 4 ?

Yes, but they release new phones every June/July. That supposed new phone (iphone 5, dual-core, probably) will probably be allegedly released in June or July.

[biggestmexi]

isnt the newest iphone the iphone 4 ?

Yes, it is. The Iphone 4 came out last year. This year it will be on VZW on 2-10.

They are referring to the next Iphone.

[biggestmexi]

Yes, but they release new phones every June/July. That supposed new phone (iphone 5, dual-core, probably) will probably be allegedly released in June or July.

as stated by matty, they dont like new tech.

I wouldnt expect dual-core, but you never know.

Right now Nvidia is working with android phones.

[biggestmexi]

Also with LTE rolling out on VZW, I will say that we will see VZW phones to have voice+data by the end of the year or early next year.

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[Freitag]

I am trying to use the touch's touch keyboard. Grumble grumble grumble.

Need to get used to it.

[Dan 'Hampton]

Quit bitching. It's cake.

[angrymissy]

I am trying to use the touch's touch keyboard. Grumble grumble grumble.

Need to get used to it.

Get swype, seriously.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Get swype, seriously.

It's no use. Spend your energy elsewhere.

[CountryBob]

Broke down and got the iphone 4 yesterday - I need a really good guide to the best apps to get/have. Any suggestions?

[disneyspy]

the money/back app

[CountryBob]

the money/back app

Hehe - I like this phone - coming from a 3 year old Blackberry Curve. this is like coming from a VCR to a BluRay!

[disneyspy]

Hehe - I like this phone - coming from a 3 year old Blackberry Curve. this is like coming from a VCR to a DVD!

i'm just jealous cuz i wont have any disposible cash til april,right now i have the verizon convoy with their cheapest package

[CountryBob]

i'm just jealous cuz i wont have any disposible cash til april,right now i have the verizon convoy with their cheapest package

I used my winnings from my football pool - made $750 for second place. I'm getting brakes today and paying for my Hilton Head Beach wedding trip. :smoke:

[underdog]

Broke down and got the iphone 4 yesterday - I need a really good guide to the best apps to get/have. Any suggestions?

You must have been the only one.

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[Tenbatsuzen]

You must have been the only one.

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With a verizon store pretty much in every town in America, plus with a pre-sale and it being available on the net, why would you think there would be lines around the block?

[underdog]

With a verizon store pretty much in every town in America, plus with a pre-sale and it being available on the net, why would you think there would be lines around the block?

Apple and Verizon apparently thought there would be.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Apple and Verizon apparently thought there would be.

They underestimated how huge the pre-sale would be. So it's basically a wash. End result = Apple and Verizon have sold a metric fuckton of Iphones in less than a week.

[jennysmurf]

i'm just jealous cuz i wont have any disposible cash til april,right now i have the verizon convoy with their cheapest package

I heard your package was the cheapest.

[disneyspy]

I heard your package was the cheapest.

its free for hot chicks so you heard right

[jennysmurf]

its free for hot chicks so you heard right

Chicks? No, that's not what I heard.

[disneyspy]

Chicks? No, that's not what I heard.

epo lies

[JustJon]

They also announced they were only releasing about 100,000 at launch, most of which went to presales. Makes sense that there wouldn't be huge lines.

[Space Edge]

They also announced they were only releasing about 100,000 at launch, most of which went to presales. Makes sense that there wouldn't be huge lines.

Also some people aren't that excited about this since it's just the same generation phone on a different carrier. I think a lot of people will be holding out to see if they announce the "iPhone 5" in June.

BTW if you have AT&T they are giving you 1,000 rollover mins for free

AT&T handing over 1000 free rollover minutes to all of its customers (http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/atandt-handing-over-1000-free-rollover-minutes-to-all-of-its-custo/)