Feds Push For Tracking Cell Phones

[JimBeam]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10451518-38.html

[topless_mike]

i cant wait to hear what Lord Jezo has to say about this...

[Suspect Chin]

I knew the Patriot Act was a slippery slope...

[dino_electropolis]

I knew the Patriot Act was a slippery slope...

mmmmmmm.....

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[foodcourtdruide]

This really upsets me. Just because the technology is there to do something, doesn't mean it should be hijacked and used to take away our privacy. How is this different AT ALL from attaching GPS locators to clothing? How is this legal!?

Why don't they just put everyone in prison? It would be easier to track us then!

[pennington]

Once Obama is elected, things like this won't happen. Oh, wait, never mind...

the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts.

[A.J.]

I'm safe.

[Snoogans]

lester freeman BEEN doin this shit

[hanso]

Wouldn't this fall under being able to track 911 calls?
I didn't read the write up but at least thats the bright side of this.

[Contra]

Ok where is the cloaking app?

[Syd]

Pretty interesting situation going on with this. The nature of the technology certainly qualifies as something you should have no expectation of privacy.

Given the nature of the majority of the US who are more than willing to give up their rights for expectations of security is this really all that surprising?

[A.J.]

Ok where is the cloaking app?

A cloaking device would be awesome.

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/props/tosprop1-romulan-cloak-theenterpriseincident.jpg

[furie]

the Obama administration has argued that warrantless tracking is permitted because Americans enjoy no "reasonable expectation of privacy" in their--or at least their cell phones'--whereabouts.

Wow

[Suspect Chin]

Pretty interesting situation going on with this. The nature of the technology certainly qualifies as something you should have no expectation of privacy.

Given the nature of the majority of the US who are more than willing to give up their rights for expectations of security is this really all that surprising?

If you aren't doing anything illegal, then this shouldn't bother you.

[furie]

If you aren't doing anything illegal, then this shouldn't bother you.

that is and always has been a horrible argument when it comes to civil liberties.

[Brad_Rush]

that is and always has been a horrible argument when it comes to civil liberties.

Thank you! I always get annoyed when people use that argument

[Suspect Chin]

that is and always has been a horrible argument when it comes to civil liberties.

I was kidding.

[furie]

I was kidding.

you haven't been on the board long enough to do that

[TripleSkeet]

The fact that a group known as the "Scarecrow Bandits" could stymie the FBI scare me as much as the fact they can track whatever information they want without any kind of privacy protection.

[Chigworthy]

that is and always has been a horrible argument when it comes to civil liberties.

But you never hear anyone explain why it is.

[Suspect Chin]

you haven't been on the board long enough to do that

I'm reporting you.

[Syd]

If you aren't doing anything illegal, then this shouldn't bother you.

If you want to remain anonymous, don't broadcast what is essentially a homing signal. That is what it comes down to, I can understand their reasoning behind it however detestable it might be.

[Doctor Z]

While I agree this is an infringement on my civil liberties and my privacy, I can take some comfort in knowing that the government doesn't give two shits about me.

[PapaBear]

If you want to remain anonymous, don't broadcast what is essentially a homing signal. That is what it comes down to, I can understand their reasoning behind it however detestable it might be.
And then what? If you don't want a police car on your rear bumper at all times, don't drive?

[TripleSkeet]

But you never hear anyone explain why it is.

Because the way the law works youre supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Which means they are supposed to treat people like they are law abiding citizens until they are proven criminals. Not the other way around.

[KC2OSO]

If you aren't doing anything illegal, then this shouldn't bother you.
That's not how the system is built.

[KC2OSO]

You really don't get this do you?
I expect my conversations to be private. Unless...

[Serpico1103]

And then what? If you don't want a police car on your rear bumper at all times, don't drive?

Police are allowed to place a GPS device on your car without a warrant. The rationale is that you are driving in public, so there is no expectation of privacy and the device doesn't interfere with your use of the car.

So, using cell phones is just applying established law to a new technology.
I am not fond of this logic, because as technology improves, we will have no privacy, even in our home.

[Syd]

And then what? If you don't want a police car on your rear bumper at all times, don't drive?

Police cars aren't a necessary part of any part of a car or its immediate function. So, no, not a police car on your rear bumper at all times. However, it could be if you're on a public road.