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PapaBear
02-02-2010, 11:03 PM
When a recipe calls for wine, does it matter if it's cooking wine or regular wine? And... If regular wine is better, should you just go ahead and get the cheapest wine out there?

The recipe I'm cooking tomorrow calls for red wine. Since I don't drink wine, and didn't want to have an almost full bottle sitting around, I went for some Pompeian marsala cooking wine (marsala, because they didn't have anything just marked "red").

What wines do YOU like to cook with, and why?

TooLowBrow
02-02-2010, 11:08 PM
When a recipe calls for wine, does it matter if it's cooking wine or regular wine? And... If regular wine is better, should you just go ahead and get the cheapest wine out there?

The recipe I'm cooking tomorrow calls for red wine. Since I don't drink wine, and didn't want to have an almost full bottle sitting around, I went for some Pompeian marsala cooking wine (marsala, because they didn't have anything just marked "red").

What wines do YOU like to cook with, and why?

i call it vino

PapaBear
02-02-2010, 11:11 PM
i call it vino
Well? Cooking vino, or regular vino?

TooLowBrow
02-02-2010, 11:15 PM
Well? Cooking vino, or regular vino?

i dont understand the english words.

i only understand vino

hedges
02-02-2010, 11:23 PM
As a bartender, we would always have partial bottles of wine left over after events. We would try to use them up in a day or two, and if we didn't, the chef got them for cooking. Cabernet sauvignons, merlots, chardonnays, and pinot grigios are what the chef got from us.
I'm not sure how he used them, but he did.

TooLowBrow
02-02-2010, 11:43 PM
As a bartender, we would always have partial bottles of wine left over after events. We would try to use them up in a day or two, and if we didn't, the chef got them for cooking. Cabernet sauvignons, merlots, chardonnays, and pinot grigios are what the chef got from us.
I'm not sure how he used them, but he did.

he drank them you idiot

hedges
02-02-2010, 11:52 PM
He wasn't a drinker, douchebag. He cooked with the wine and the rest went to the garbage.

TooLowBrow
02-02-2010, 11:54 PM
He wasn't a drinker, douchebag. He cooked with the wine and the rest went to the garbage.

ol' garbage liver

hedges
02-03-2010, 12:00 AM
Wine can get stale after a couple days if open but you can still cook with it.

TooLowBrow
02-03-2010, 12:02 AM
Wine can get stale after a couple days if open but you can still cook with it.

you sound like a guy who thinks that old chicken makes good soup

PapaBear
02-03-2010, 12:04 AM
Wine can get stale after a couple days if open but you can still cook with it.
This leads me to think that there probably isn't much difference what wine you use when cooking. That's along the lines of what I want to know. Thanks hedges.

hedges
02-03-2010, 12:13 AM
you sound like a guy who thinks that old chicken makes good soup

doesn't it?

biggestmexi
02-03-2010, 02:08 AM
Only cook with wine you, yourself, will drink.


A rule of thumb for ya.

joethebartender
02-03-2010, 03:03 AM
Only cook with wine you, yourself, will drink.


A rule of thumb for ya.

this.

TooLowBrow
02-03-2010, 04:12 AM
doesn't it?

you sound like a guy who'll fuck the elderly

aceofspades7
02-03-2010, 04:41 AM
i wouldn't use cooking wine - there's plenty of cheap decent table wine

we try to buy this (http://www.kysela.com/rhone/grandveneur.htm#CDR)- it comes in a 3 L box for ~30 bucks

also - you can substitute vermouth for most recipes that call for white wine

Hottub
02-03-2010, 05:10 AM
Only cook with wine you, yourself, will drink.


A rule of thumb for ya.

Yup.

And what you don't use in the recipe, you should enjoy a few glasses of while preparing.:drunk:

ANC
02-03-2010, 05:38 AM
Only cook with wine you, yourself, will drink.


A rule of thumb for ya.

this.

Yup.

And what you don't use in the recipe, you should enjoy a few glasses of while preparing.:drunk:

I concur with my fellow souses..

IMO "Cooking Wine" isn't good for anything.

opie's twisted balls
02-03-2010, 05:41 AM
Only cook with wine you, yourself, will drink.


A rule of thumb for ya.
Yes, that.

also - you can substitute vermouth for most recipes that call for white wine
hmmmm.....not for me

vermouth is VERY VERY dry and is fine for some dishes but I'd be reluctant to use it in anything that calls for even a hit of sweetness


And what you don't use in the recipe, you should enjoy a few glasses of while preparing.:drunk:
One bottle for the pot, one bottle for the cook.

Whatever you do DON'T buy anything thats actually labeled as "cooking wine" (which sounds like what you've picked up) from the grocery store. Aside from it tasting like shit and was from the bottom of the vat and couldn't even make the grade to be bottled as Night Train they're also a bunch of additives and salt that have to be added to cooking wine to make it shelf stable. That's going to alter the taste of what you're cooking.

aceofspades7
02-03-2010, 05:55 AM
cheap wines we keep in our rotation beside that boxed cotes du rhone i mentioned above - all great for drinking and cooking - the domain du pouy is a steal at 5.75 a bottle

white:
wimmer (http://www.calvertwoodley.com/w8961152o9)
picpoul de pinet (http://www.calvertwoodley.com/w1498909mk)
domain du pouy (http://www.calvertwoodley.com/w9681636pk)

red
stump jump (http://www.calvertwoodley.com/w2440949sf)
castano monastrell (http://www.calvertwoodley.com/w0988172ds)

Chigworthy
02-03-2010, 06:39 AM
Cooking wine is shit. If you don't drink, you can still keep a bottle of red and white wine in your fridge a few weeks just for cooking. They also sell low-quality wine in those little picnic bottles (like on the airplane). While it may not be gourmet, it still works for cooking, and you don't have any leftovers.

When you cook with wine, or any alcohol, it is important to cook the alcohol out as soon as you can. Alcohol can add a very sour, bitter taste to food if it is absorbed before it evaporates in the pan. I don't mean nuke your dish when you add the wine, just take into account what is in the pan when you add it. Absorbent foods can soak up the booze quickly, and it's all over johnny.

JerseyRich
02-03-2010, 07:17 AM
When I make my marinara, I use an inexpensive Merlot from Trader Joe's. It's fantastic.

biggestmexi
02-03-2010, 05:34 PM
this.

Yup.



I concur with my fellow souses..


Yes, that.



BANDWAGONER'S!

hedges
02-03-2010, 07:25 PM
you sound like a guy who'll fuck the elderly

I hate you.

jauble
02-04-2010, 06:08 PM
What were you cooking? As far as the cook with what you drink. I like semi-expensive wine if I am drinking wine, so I don't subscribe to that belief. Will I drink swill occasionally? Yes, so thats what I can cook with.