Its So Ugly!!!!! (aka the I Hate Apple Thread)

[biggestmexi]

WOW THE INGENUITY!

THEY REALLY CALLED IT THE maxIpad.

hahahahaha

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0094-rm-eng.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0097-rm-eng.jpg

[disneyspy]

must be when i'm having those heavy flow days

[biggestmexi]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0128-rm-eng.jpg


HA HA no flash on iphone os 4.0

[ANC]

the name iPad makes me think of some high tech feminine product.

[biggestmexi]

i wonder how many fanboi's will be working over time to buy the oversized iphone

[realmenhatelife]

I dont get how thats more conveniant than a lap top.

[biggestmexi]

yeah.....how exactly do you carry this with out risk of scratching the screen?

[FUNKMAN]

the english might say "it's bloody good"...

[opie's twisted balls]

iFail

[biggestmexi]

iFail

mod quote!

[EliSnow]

Given the iPod, I think the iPad name makes sense.

I won't be getting this any time soon, but I'm interested to hear about the interactivity with it.

[FUNKMAN]

after the salesman gives you his pitch you're obligated to ask if there are any strings attached...

[biggestmexi]

Given the iPod, I think the iPad name makes sense.

I won't be getting this any time soon, but I'm interested to hear about the interactivity with it.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/live-from-the-apple-tablet-latest-creation-event/

[topless_mike]

forget the toy, steve jobs isnt looking so hot.

[Aggie]

after the salesman gives you his pitch you're obligated to ask if there are any strings attached...

i <3 funkman jokes.

[FUNKMAN]

i <3 funkman jokes.

thank you Aggie... u made my day!

[biggestmexi]

i cant see anyone getting excited over this macbook air.

[biggestmexi]

forget the toy, steve jobs isnt looking so hot.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0302-rm-eng.jpg

[opie's twisted balls]

forget the toy, steve jobs isnt looking so hot.
liver fail

[LordJezo]

I wonder if the next version will have wings...

[biggestmexi]

still no word on HOW you get on the net......

wifi only

[opie's twisted balls]

Dunno, doesn't do it for me. I've played around with tablet PC's before and they're a novelty that get tiresome quickly. Too big to comfortably carry around, the touch screen makes it awkward to do anything more than light typing. Could be way off but don't see this filling any particular niche.

[IMSlacker]

wifi only

Really?

[biggestmexi]

Really?

i mean wifi only?

mah bad.

havent said yet

AND THEY ARE STILL USING PROPRIETARY CONNECTORS

[biggestmexi]

hahahahah


THEY ARE STUCK WITH AT&T!!!!!!!!!!

[JerseyRich]

iPad?

More like jewPad!

[biggestmexi]

no removable memory or battery.

[biggestmexi]

$629, 729, and 829 with 3G.

hilarious

[biggestmexi]

no multitasking

[Chigworthy]

$629, 729, and 829 with 3G.

hilarious
What's the staggered-release customer leeching strategy for this one? There's got to be some piece of widely available tech that they will inexplicably not include in the initial versions so they can double their sales in a year with a new version.

[Furtherman]

Does it have wings?

[biggestmexi]

What's the staggered-release customer leeching strategy for this one? There's got to be some piece of widely available tech that they will inexplicably not include in the initial versions so they can double their sales in a year with a new version.

yeah the 3g version isnt available yet, in 60 days it will be...

lol

[LordJezo]

Does it have wings?

Jeeze, at least read the first page of this thread.

I wonder if the next version will have wings...

[Chigworthy]

yeah the 3g version isnt available yet, in 60 days it will be...

lol

I've had 3G phones for years now. iCunts.

[JerseyRich]

Do you think it has wings?

[Hottub]

http://imgs.tootoo.com/11/5b/115b3d381b8b99980c974c6fe91e156d.jpg

[opie's twisted balls]

Its the Newton 2.0

[LordJezo]

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[topless_mike]

amazon must be feeling pretty confident about how it's kindle will kick this piece of shit's ass.

this ipad / itab / idontknowwhattodowiththis looks like a hot steaming pile, if you axe me.

[instrument]

Looks better then those greyscale ereaders, i still dont get the non multi tasking though.

And i they arent "stuck" with att, trust me there are huge pity party meetings at vzw that were scheduled immediately after steve jobs announcement to whine about apple.

[Death Metal Moe]

I'll wait for the PC equivelant to come out. It'll be half the peice and I cqn work on it. I'll like Apple products but will not pay the over inflated price for their computers.

[Freitag]

Like, it's cool... but not a game changer. If I didn't just get a Touch, I could see the need for it. I just want the IPhone on Verizon and I'll be happy.

[Freitag]

Looks better then those greyscale ereaders, i still dont get the non multi tasking though.

And i they arent "stuck" with att, trust me there are huge pity party meetings at vzw that were scheduled immediately after steve jobs announcement to whine about apple.

Key thing about ATT... no contracts for the 3G. That kinda scares me and wonder what Jobs had to do in order for that to work. If it means another exclusive contract for ATT for the Iphone, I'll be upset.

[RhinoinMN]

Comes with easy, ultra smooth applications.

[KC2OSO]

hahahahah


THEY ARE STUCK WITH AT&T!!!!!!!!!!
and this meatbag
http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/29/230x306/29148_luke-wilson-blurb-ap.jpg

[Misteriosa]

Comes with easy, ultra smooth applications.

and it works overnight... for those heavy work loads...

[Freitag]

hahahahah


THEY ARE STUCK WITH AT&T!!!!!!!!!!

And no, they aren't.

You can get a wifi model and tether through your phone, just like I'm doing with my touch. Problem solved.

[Freitag]

oh wait, mexi has the droid and can't use his phone as a hotspot without paying extra... oooooh, sorry

[KingGeno]

Wow. Talk about an underwhelming piece of crap. There a much better pads out there already. And screw them and their 30 bucks a month with AT&T contract. Not even gonna bother with this, at least until next gen. No multi-tasking, no camera, nothing.

ten years in dev? riiiiight.

Apple faggots will suck this shit up though, not realizing they could buy something even better out there...like the HTC pads

[Freitag]

Wow. Talk about an underwhelming piece of crap. There a much better pads out there already. And screw them and their 30 bucks a month with AT&T contract. Not even gonna bother with this, at least until next gen. No multi-tasking, no camera, nothing.



There is no contract. It's pay as you go.

[KnoxHarrington]

It's cool, but it's not a real game changer, I think. I'd get it over an iPod Touch, but I'm not sure I'd buy it instead of a Macbook or other laptop.

And can we get this thread named something less troll-tastic? Yeah, we get it, you hate Apple

[topless_mike]

There is no contract. It's pay as you go.

that must have cost Steve Jobs something pretty hefty.

[Contra]

iBrick

[Freitag]

And can we get this thread named something less troll-tastic? Yeah, we get it, you hate Apple

QFT. Why do people have to hate things they've never even tried?

[Freitag]

that must have cost Steve Jobs something pretty hefty.

The only thing I'm thinking is continuing the Iphone exclusivity contract. It's the only thing ATT wants. As soon as the Iphone is on Verizon, ATT is gonna bleed customers.

[Contra]

QFT. Why do people have to hate things they've never even tried?

I'd love to be rich enough to.

[Freitag]

It's cool, but it's not a real game changer, I think. I'd get it over an iPod Touch, but I'm not sure I'd buy it instead of a Macbook or other laptop.

And can we get this thread named something less troll-tastic? Yeah, we get it, you hate Apple

If I hadn't just gotten a touch for my birthday, I would have definitely gotten this. But I don't see the point now.

[Don Stugots]

does it have wings?

[Furtherman]

Jeeze, at least read the first page of this thread.

But you're never witty.

JerseyRich and Stugots are witty! They're the witty-est.

[hammersavage]

But you're never witty.

JerseyRich and Stugots are witty! They're the witty-est.

quoted so you can't take it back

or qsyctib

[biggestmexi]

And no, they aren't.

You can get a wifi model and tether through your phone, just like I'm doing with my touch. Problem solved.

if they allow that

oh wait, mexi has the droid and can't use his phone as a hotspot without paying extra... oooooh, sorry

uhm i was on the net all day today with my tethered phone for free( app and data)
(and i can wifi tether)
not to mention i can also wifi mount my droid to my pc to transfer files as well.

oh your a noob

There is no contract. It's pay as you go.

pay as you go per month.

[biggestmexi]

QFT. Why do people have to hate things they've never even tried?

wait so youve tried this?

[biggestmexi]

If I hadn't just gotten a touch for my birthday, I would have definitely gotten this. But I don't see the point now.

thats the reason i assume they priced it like they did.

they got it close enough to the touch that people will buy tihs heap instead.

[EliSnow]

thats the reason i assume they priced it like they did.

they got it close enough to the touch that people will buy tihs heap instead.

I don't know abou that. I just got the 64g iTouch. I knew this was coming out, but knowing Apple, I knew that they wouldn't have a 64G version, or if they did it would be much too expensive to get the tablet version.

I knew I liked the Touch so I went with that.

[topless_mike]

thats the reason i assume they priced it like they did.

they got it close enough to the touch that people will buy tihs heap instead.

apple loves doing that, dont they.

[KnoxHarrington]

I don't know abou that. I just got the 64g iTouch. I knew this was coming out, but knowing Apple, I knew that they wouldn't have a 64G version, or if they did it would be much too expensive to get the tablet version.

I knew I liked the Touch so I went with that.

The size and portability of the iPod Touch will still be an advantage over this. I don't know if I'd want to haul an iPad around all the time.

The other thing is that I think that it's smart of Apple to not tie the 3G to a plan. That way, I think a lot of people will go ahead and pick up the one with 3G right away, even if they aren't sure they'll be using it right away.

[Freitag]

if they allow that


...how wouldn't they? You can't differentiate the wifi signal from a phone than from a router?



pay as you go per month.

How else would you do it? It's still no contract.

[Freitag]

wait so youve tried this?

No, but I'm not immediately hating on it.

[topless_mike]

http://goodeatsusa.com/Images-ApplePie/ApplePie6A.jpg

[topless_mike]

maybe this thing can plug into the computer of a Ford to diagnose any one of the many problems that they have.

[underdog]

Eat up Martha.

[IMSlacker]

oh wait, mexi has the droid and can't use his phone as a hotspot without paying extra... oooooh, sorry

Sure he can, with pdanet.

[EliSnow]

The size and portability of the iPod Touch will still be an advantage over this. I don't know if I'd want to haul an iPad around all the time.

The physical size doesn't bother me as much. Even on weekends, I often carrying around a messenger bag with me wherever I go, to carry my Touch, Blackberry, a book, reading glasses, stuff for my kids, etc. (Go ahead with the jokes). I could carry it in there easily.

If they had a $500, 64g version of this coming out, then I would be tempted. But they're not going to have that for a long while.

[Freitag]

someone brought up a good point.

16g of storage at 500 bucks is farking criminal.

I wasn't going to a first adopter anyway, but that's AWFUL.

[RhinoinMN]

Sure he can, with pdanet.

I think he is referring to the fact that Verizon has stated that tethering is capable, but not accepted. Verizon claims that they have a way to know if you are tethering and will charge you the 60 dollar wireless plan they sell for desktops and laptops. I think they are full of shit. They only way they can suspect tethering is by large usage which would be no different than if you used something like Pandora all day which is accepted.

[SatCam]

someone brought up a good point.

16g of storage at 500 bucks is farking criminal.



this is apple we're talking about

[EliSnow]

Can anyone explain why the iPhone isn't/can't be enabled to play Flash player stuff? Is it a decision or somethign they can't do?

I noticed on a site that Marvel Comics is hesitant about the device for that reason.

[opie's twisted balls]

Can anyone explain why the iPhone isn't/can't be enabled to play Flash player stuff? Is it a decision or somethign they can't do?

How else can they justify selling an updated version @ christmas?

[biggestmexi]

I think he is referring to the fact that Verizon has stated that tethering is capable, but not accepted. Verizon claims that they have a way to know if you are tethering and will charge you the 60 dollar wireless plan they sell for desktops and laptops. I think they are full of shit. They only way they can suspect tethering is by large usage which would be no different than if you used something like Pandora all day which is accepted.

i sure hope not....>EEEEEEEEEEE


My god, am I underwhelmed by the iPad. This is as inessential a product as I've ever seen, but beyond that, it has some absolutely backbreaking failures that will make me judge anyone who buys one. Updated

Big, Ugly Bezel
Have you seen the bezel on this thing?! It's huge! I know you don't want to accidentally input a command when your thumb is holding it, but come on.

No Multitasking
This is a backbreaker. If this is supposed to be a replacement for netbooks, how can it possibly not have multitasking? Are you saying I can't listen to Pandora while writing a document? I can't have my Twitter app open at the same time as my browser? I can't have AIM open at the same time as my email? Are you kidding me? This alone guarantees that I will not buy this product.

No Cameras
No front facing camera is one thing. But no back facing camera either? Why the hell not? I can't imagine what the downside was for including at least one camera. Could this thing not handle video iChat?

Touch Keyboard
So much for Apple revolutionizing tablet inputs; this is the same big, ugly touchscreen keyboard we've seen on other tablets, and unless you're lying on the couch with your knees propping it up, it'll be awkward to use.

No HDMI Out
Want to watch those nice HD videos you downloaded from iTunes on your TV? Too damned bad! If you were truly loyal, you'd just buy an AppleTV already.

The Name iPad
Get ready for Maxi pad jokes, and lots of 'em!

No Flash
No Flash is annoying but not a dealbreaker on the iPhone and iPod Touch. On something that's supposed to be closer to a netbook or laptop? It will leave huge, gaping holes in websites. I hope you don't care about streaming video! God knows not many casual internet users do. Oh wait, nevermind, they all do.

Adapters, Adapters, Adapters
So much for those smooth lines. If you want to plug anything into this, such as a digital camera, you need all sorts of ugly adapters. You need an adapter for USB for god's sake.

Update: Why stop at 8? Here are more things we are discovering that suck about the iPad.

It's Not Widescreen
Widescreen movies look lousy on this thing thanks to its 4:3 screen, according to Blam, who checked out some of Star Trek on one. It's like owning a 4:3 TV all over again!

Doesn't Support T-Mobile 3G
Sure, it's "unlocked." But it won't work on T-Mobile, and it uses microSIMs that literally no one else uses.

[biggestmexi]

Can anyone explain why the iPhone isn't/can't be enabled to play Flash player stuff? Is it a decision or somethign they can't do?

I noticed on a site that Marvel Comics is hesitant about the device for that reason.

adobe doesnt like apple.


thats why the droid will get it sooner

[EliSnow]

How else can they justify selling an updated version @ christmas?

If that was the reason, I think they would have done that already.

None of the iPod Touches or the iPhones, I believe, have ever had that ability.

The Blackberry Storm doesn't have it either.

[IMSlacker]

If that was the reason, I think they would have done that already.

None of the iPod Touches or the iPhones, I believe, have ever had that ability.

The Blackberry Storm doesn't have it either.

Android doesn't have it yet either.

Does Windows Mobile?

[Hottub]

adobe doesnt like apple.


thats why the droid will get it sooner

It's already here (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/devices/articles/htchero.html) if you have the right phone. I, of course do.

I have pretty much relegated my Touch to the Bose base. Everything I need and more is on my droid. I even have a good chunk of my music on there. If I can figure out how to sync the phone with iTunes, I'm good to go.

I also love how Apple is once again staggering the releases of features they already have in the can, and the fools just keep buying into it.
They are a pretty scummy company in my book.

[sr71blackbird]

I think this will be awesome, and will definitely get one. Cant wait. I bet we dont see it for a few months though.

[biggestmexi]

I think this will be awesome, and will definitely get one. Cant wait. I bet we dont see it for a few months though.

derp.


its out now.

buy it and try it on verizon.

[opie's twisted balls]

buy it and try it on verizon.
I'm sure he'll buy the European model

[sr71blackbird]

Sweet!

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[mikeyboy]

Sweet!

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I seriously hope you know that's fake.

[opie's twisted balls]

Sweet!

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does it come in black?

[Hottub]

I seriously hope you know that's fake.

Asshole.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Android doesn't have it yet either.

Does Windows Mobile?

Why yes! Yes it does!

[Bob Impact]

someone brought up a good point.

16g of storage at 500 bucks is farking criminal.

I wasn't going to a first adopter anyway, but that's AWFUL.

16g is what I have on my droid, oh, and it can multi task too.

[Chigworthy]

16g is what I have on my droid, oh, and it can multi task too.

But does it give you the opportunity to blow on Steve Jobs' cancered dick?

[KnoxHarrington]

I'm wondering if this will be the death blow, or at least seriously hurt, the Kindle. Because the 16GB iPad will be only slightly more expensive than the Kindle DX, and do many other things than just read books.

Now, I think that the experience of reading a book in e-ink is probably better, in a lot of ways, than looking at it on a LED screen, but they haven't figured out a way to play my Asa Akira videos on an e-ink screen yet, so the iPad does have that advantage.

[IMSlacker]

Why yes! Yes it does!

Actually, I didn't even realize it, but my HTC version of Android does support some flash stuff, just not everything.

[Bob Impact]

I'm wondering if this will be the death blow, or at least seriously hurt, the Kindle. Because the 16GB iPad will be only slightly more expensive than the Kindle DX, and do many other things than just read books.

Now, I think that the experience of reading a book in e-ink is probably better, in a lot of ways, than looking at it on a LED screen, but they haven't figured out a way to play my Asa Akira videos on an e-ink screen yet, so the iPad does have that advantage.

iPad will definitely eat into it's market but I don't think it'll be all that severe. It'll take the casual Kindle users but the hardcores won't go for the significant drop in battery life.

[KnoxHarrington]

Actually, I didn't even realize it, but my HTC version of Android does support some flash stuff, just not everything.

I don't think that there's much of an excuse for Flash to not be on the iPhone, and certainly not the iPad, but at the same time, Flash can DIAF as far as I'm concerned. I switched my YouTube player on Chrome to use HTML5 instead of Flash, and damn does it run better.

[KnoxHarrington]

iPad will definitely eat into it's market but I don't think it'll be all that severe. It'll take the casual Kindle users but the hardcores won't go for the significant drop in battery life.

Yeah, if someone wants something exclusively for reading, they'll probably want the Kindle instead. But for the casual customer, the fact the iPad is only slightly more expensive (at least the basic model) might sway them that way.

[sr71blackbird]

From what the article said, this weighs quite a lot more than the Kindle and is awkward to hold for long periods of time. Its an inch thick. The Kindle is less I believe and half the weight. I bet this eats into the Kindles market share, but not to true readers. I imagine there will be people who will have both too. I actually find reading books on my iPod Touch to be pretty neat, even though its small.

[PapaBear]

On the news I saw, they said it was only a quarter inch thick. It definitely didn't look like an inch.

[instrument]

The amount of wrong info in tech threads here is scary.

One, apple refuses to include flash in the iphone sdk, it has nothing to do with adobe disliking apple...thats one of the dumbest statements ive ever heard, to think that adobe isnt dying to be on the millions of iphones out there is ridiculous.

An inch thick, wtf? Half an inch thick and weighs 1.5lbs...

Think of the low end model as an ereader on steroids, instead of carrying a kindle and a ipod you can just carry this. Do i want one? But im not dumb enough to not see the market for it.

And im sure multi tasking will come with os 4.0.

[KnoxHarrington]

On the news I saw, they said it was only a quarter inch thick. It definitely didn't look like an inch.

It's about the same form factor and thickness as the iPhone.

[midwestjeff]

All this talk about thickness is making me horny.

[PapaBear]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0097-rm-eng.jpg

Inspired by...

http://www.ovcart.com/images/inventory/15660.1240.zoom.jpg

[Death Metal Moe]

I'm not an Apple hater, I have an iPod. I don't hate the iPhone, I would probably have one if Apple wasn't stupid and didn't sign with AT&T only.

But I just don't see this thing blowing up, and really, it's not breaking any new ground here.

It's way too expensive so I don't believe it's going to take much of the Kindle and similar reader market.

It won't multitask so it's just not any kind of netbook replacement.

It looks nice and I'm sure it's gonna be popular at 1st but I can't see people running out for this one. $499 is the barebones model with no 3G, and that's way too expensive with only 16gigs of HD space.

Not impressed, sorry. They've got a great idea there, in a few generations it will be perfected.

And a reasonable price.

[biggestmexi]

The amount of wrong info in tech threads here is scary.

One, apple refuses to include flash in the iphone sdk, it has nothing to do with adobe disliking apple...thats one of the dumbest statements ive ever heard, to think that adobe isnt dying to be on the millions of iphones out there is ridiculous.

An inch thick, wtf? Half an inch thick and weighs 1.5lbs...


And im sure multi tasking will come with os 4.0.

so your saying adobe coudlnt develop flash for something that been out for years now because..................apple refuses to? I dont think so. Flash is most of the internet now. You dont think they would love to have shown steve jobs go onto hulu during that presentation?

Your disillusioned.

Yeah it will multi-task, when the lasy big phone was going to come out too.

[biggestmexi]

It looks like Apple is continuing to impose restrictions on their devices that limit both content publishers and consumers. Unlike many other ebook readers using the ePub file format, consumers will not be able to access ePub content with Apple's DRM technology on devices made by other manufacturers. And without Flash support, iPad users will not be able to access the full range of web content, including over 70% of games and 75% of video on the web.

If I want to use the iPad to connect to Disney, Hulu, Miniclip, Farmville, ESPN, Kongregate, or JibJab -- not to mention the millions of other sites on the web -- I'll be out of luck. .

sounds friendly huh?

[sailor]

It's way too expensive so I don't believe it's going to take much of the Kindle and similar reader market.

it's out of my price range, but by way of comparison (not that i see the kindle as it's major competition) the kindle DX is $489.

[Death Metal Moe]

it's out of my price range, but by way of comparison (not that i see the kindle as it's major competition) the kindle DX is $489.

But the kindle lets you wirelessly download books on it for that price over the air.

[TjM]

What's wrong with a plain old book?

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

The amount of wrong info in tech threads here is scary.

One, apple refuses to include flash in the iphone sdk, it has nothing to do with adobe disliking apple...thats one of the dumbest statements ive ever heard, to think that adobe isnt dying to be on the millions of iphones out there is ridiculous.

An inch thick, wtf? Half an inch thick and weighs 1.5lbs...

Think of the low end model as an ereader on steroids, instead of carrying a kindle and a ipod you can just carry this. Do i want one? But im not dumb enough to not see the market for it.

And im sure multi tasking will come with os 4.0.

Ok first of all is this being marketed as an ereader or slate netbook? I ask this because multitasking should be a given. It is ridiculous that this is not included. I'm almost sure apple did this so that they could charge iPod touch users for the OS 4.0 upgrade. This is once again apple releasing purposely half baked products (software wise) in order to charge their loyal fanbase (think iPod touch and OS 3.0 with bluetooth capability). The touch had the chip built in but apple figured they could charge $10 a pop for a minor update and a shitty bluetooth stack (A2DP only).

[KnoxHarrington]

Ok first of all is this being marketed as an ereader or slate netbook? I ask this because multitasking should be a given. It is ridiculous that this is not included. I'm almost sure apple did this so that they could charge iPod touch users for the OS 4.0 upgrade. This is once again apple releasing purposely half baked products (software wise) in order to charge their loyal fanbase (think iPod touch and OS 3.0 with bluetooth capability). The touch had the chip built in but apple figured they could charge $10 a pop for a minor update and a shitty bluetooth stack (A2DP only).

So you think that Apple would intentionally leave an important feature out of their major new product, one whose failure would harm them greatly and whose success would give them a major new revenue stream, so they could chisel ten bucks out of some existing customers?

Yeah, buddy.

[Serpico1103]

I can see it displacing the readers: kindle, sony, etc. But, I don't see people dumping their laptops or netbooks for it. I don't see how you can comfortably type anything more than a tweet.
Unless they offer some docking station that allows you to use it as a laptop, with the ability to separate it for use as a reader.
But I am not a tech geek, so what do I know.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

So you think that Apple would intentionally leave an important feature out of their major new product, one whose failure would harm them greatly and whose success would give them a major new revenue stream, so they could chisel ten bucks out of some existing customers?

Yeah, buddy.

Ummm yes. The update will be out during the summer as is custom. It will be a minor update for pad owners but a major paid update for touch owners. After all this is the company that charged their computer owners for an update to use wireless N.

[KnoxHarrington]

I can see it displacing the readers: kindle, sony, etc. But, I don't see people dumping their laptops or netbooks for it. I don't see how you can comfortably type anything more than a tweet.
Unless they offer some docking station that allows you to use it as a laptop, with the ability to separate it for use as a reader.
But I am not a tech geek, so what do I know.

They did show these accessory yesterday.

http://images.apple.com/ipad/design/images/accessories_20100127.jpg

The top left is a keyboard dock, and there's a case that can be used to have it sit upright as well, and you could pair a bluetooth keyboard.

Still, though, I agree; neither would work as well for real work as an actual laptop. But Apple did make the point that this isn't supposed to be a laptop replacement, and they are not marketing it as such.

[KnoxHarrington]

Ummm yes. The update will be out during the summer as is custom. It will be a minor update for pad owners but a major paid update for touch owners. After all this is the company that charged their computer owners for an update to use wireless N.

Again, harming a device that will sell for at least $499 to chisel $10? Really?

The fact they charge for iPod Touch updates is dumb, but I am not buying your reasoning here at all.

[Space Edge]

Ummm yes. The update will be out during the summer as is custom. It will be a minor update for pad owners but a major paid update for touch owners. After all this is the company that charged their computer owners for an update to use wireless N.

I'm not sure what you are talking about with the last part?

[KnoxHarrington]

I'm not sure what you are talking about with the last part?

Yeah, whether or not you can get a 802.11n signal is based on the hardware of the wi-fi card, not software. So what does this mean?

And let me also make this point: Mac users probably paid a hell of a lot more for their Macs than most people paid for their iPod Touches (though the cost of a top of the line iPod Touch and a bottom of the line Mac Mini isn't that far off), and they aren't giving those people 10.6 for free. And for that matter, has Microsoft sent you a free copy of Windows 7 yet? But in both cases, the same arguments that OS 3.0 for iPhone/iPod touch just adds functions that should have always been there applies to both OS X 10.6 and Windows 7.

I do think charging iPod Touch owners for updates is kind of chintzy, but it's kind of SOP here.

[Serpico1103]

They did show these accessory yesterday.

http://images.apple.com/ipad/design/images/accessories_20100127.jpg

The top left is a keyboard dock, and there's a case that can be used to have it sit upright as well, and you could pair a bluetooth keyboard.

Still, though, I agree; neither would work as well for real work as an actual laptop. But Apple did make the point that this isn't supposed to be a laptop replacement, and they are not marketing it as such.

It seems like a great device, I am just not sure how big the market is. But innovation is good, maybe it will spur other companies to innovate, as the iphone did.

[Freitag]

.

sounds friendly huh?

You do realize that Apple products are the most intuitive and easy to master devices on the market, right?

I'm not trying to be an Apple fanboi, but your bias is showing so much you're practically glowing. If you don't like Apple, you don't need to reiterate your hate.

250 million ipods sold, and the IPhone is far and away one of the most popular cellphones. Droid's made a dent but it's got a ways to go.

[Freitag]

What's wrong with a plain old book?

Apparently, holding a book or magazine is just as bad as freezing meat.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

I'm not sure what you are talking about with the last part?

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/18/apple-confirms-802-11n-unlock-fee-but-its-just-2/

http://wifinetnews.com/archives/2007/01/steve_jobs_says_apple_will_in_fact_charge_5_for_80 211n_updat.html

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/01/15/apple_to_impose_80211n_unlocking_fee_on_intel_mac_ owners.html

[biggestmexi]

You do realize that Apple products are the most intuitive and easy to master devices on the market, right?

I'm not trying to be an Apple fanboi, but your bias is showing so much you're practically glowing. If you don't like Apple, you don't need to reiterate your hate.

250 million ipods sold, and the IPhone is far and away one of the most popular cellphones. Droid's made a dent but it's got a ways to go.

The only thing intuitive they have done is marketing this to fashiontistas.

Nothing intuitive, they're was atouch screen phone before the iphone.
And they just make that in seperate shapes and models now

So you think that Apple would intentionally leave an important feature out of their major new product, one whose failure would harm them greatly and whose success would give them a major new revenue stream, so they could chisel ten bucks out of some existing customers?

Yeah, buddy.

Uhm they are doing it with the pad. It doesn't have 3G to start for some reason.

With apple, they could come out with some shitty tablet sized iphone with less features and still make money on it if they wanted........oh wait

[biggestmexi]

You do realize that Apple products are the most intuitive and easy to master devices on the market, right?

I'm not trying to be an Apple fanboi, but your bias is showing so much you're practically glowing. If you don't like Apple, you don't need to reiterate your hate.

250 million ipods sold, and the IPhone is far and away one of the most popular cellphones. Droid's made a dent but it's got a ways to go.

Its so the can sell it to little girls and half-retards so they can buy it and call themselves trendy

[TjM]

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215176820_eHZ2P-L-2.jpg

[Space Edge]

Yeah, whether or not you can get a 802.11n signal is based on the hardware of the wi-fi card, not software. So what does this mean?

And let me also make this point: Mac users probably paid a hell of a lot more for their Macs than most people paid for their iPod Touches (though the cost of a top of the line iPod Touch and a bottom of the line Mac Mini isn't that far off), and they aren't giving those people 10.6 for free. And for that matter, has Microsoft sent you a free copy of Windows 7 yet? But in both cases, the same arguments that OS 3.0 for iPhone/iPod touch just adds functions that should have always been there applies to both OS X 10.6 and Windows 7.

I do think charging iPod Touch owners for updates is kind of chintzy, but it's kind of SOP here.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/18/apple-confirms-802-11n-unlock-fee-but-its-just-2/

http://wifinetnews.com/archives/2007/01/steve_jobs_says_apple_will_in_fact_charge_5_for_80 211n_updat.html

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/01/15/apple_to_impose_80211n_unlocking_fee_on_intel_mac_ owners.html

Did they ever do that? I don't think I ever paid to have that activated? I just browsed over those links don't have the time right now to read them right now but will look at them later.

[furie]

19 Rejected Names For The Apple iPad

iPod OB

The Starbucks Attention-Getter

iTouch Maximum

iMac Minimum

Apple Newton v2.0

iPlacemat

The Procrastinatrix

Whammo Novelty Throwing Square

Zune Blaster 3000

Matthew McConaughey's Virtual Bongos

Crotch TV

One More Thing For Your Kids To Endlessly Bug You About Then Break

$800 Coke Mirror

iTheKindleCanSuckItBitch

The Netbook of Sauron

Space Screen of the Future Future FUTURE!!!

iFeminine Napkin

Finally, Another Dealie To Play Solitaire On!

Steve Jobs' Lapsturbator

from techland.com

[Furtherman]

Why The iPad Is Crap Futurism (http://io9.com/5458822/why-the-ipad-is-crap-futurism)

Excellent article on why you should think twice about jumping for the latest potential fad.

I know a lot of otherwise-savvy consumers and hackers who are already drooling over the iPad and putting in their orders. They hate the idea of a restricted device, but they love the shiny-shiny.

[KnoxHarrington]

I think a lot of the people who say this thing will flop have lost touch with how most people use their computers, or what they want out of them. They judge the worth of a computer by its processor clock speed, or how many expansion ports you have, or how many drives you've got in your RAID array, etc. etc.

There are tons of people out there already using the iPhone as a computer. It does what they want a computer for: it gets them on the Internet, it gets their email. The iPad will serve that market better, because it's bigger, it'll do more things (well, not at the same time), and it'll do them better.

This is not a device for anyone who posts in this thread, I imagine, unless you just want one to carry around. This is for people who want to do some things a computer does, but hate computers, and even the supposedly more user-friendly Mac overwhelms them.

Work tech support a while and you'll find the iPad's market: people who buy a computer to get on the Internet, and let it get clogged up with spyware and viruses. They will want a no-maintenance, no fuss machine. Of course, it's restricted as hell, imposing much of Apple's will on its users. But I think that's not a problem for the big majority of users.

It's depressing, and I agree with the article Furtherman linked above. It's like Apple is telling that chick with the hammer from the 1984 ad to go fuck off, and it's Steve Jobs up on that screen we're all staring at now. But I think many more people want that than you think.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

I think a lot of the people who say this thing will flop have lost touch with how most people use their computers, or what they want out of them. They judge the worth of a computer by its processor clock speed, or how many expansion ports you have, or how many drives you've got in your RAID array, etc. etc.

There are tons of people out there already using the iPhone as a computer. It does what they want a computer for: it gets them on the Internet, it gets their email. The iPad will serve that market better, because it's bigger, it'll do more things (well, not at the same time), and it'll do them better.

This is not a device for anyone who posts in this thread, I imagine, unless you just want one to carry around. This is for people who want to do some things a computer does, but hate computers, and even the supposedly more user-friendly Mac overwhelms them.

Work tech support a while and you'll find the iPad's market: people who buy a computer to get on the Internet, and let it get clogged up with spyware and viruses. They will want a no-maintenance, no fuss machine. Of course, it's restricted as hell, imposing much of Apple's will on its users. But I think that's not a problem for the big majority of users.

It's depressing, and I agree with the article Furtherman linked above. It's like Apple is telling that chick with the hammer from the 1984 ad to go fuck off, and it's Steve Jobs up on that screen we're all staring at now. But I think many more people want that than you think.

The fact that such a user exists kinda bothers me.

[biggestmexi]

I think a lot of the people who say this thing will flop have lost touch with how most people use their computers, or what they want out of them. They judge the worth of a computer by its processor clock speed, or how many expansion ports you have, or how many drives you've got in your RAID array, etc. etc.

There are tons of people out there already using the iPhone as a computer. It does what they want a computer for: it gets them on the Internet, it gets their email. The iPad will serve that market better, because it's bigger, it'll do more things (well, not at the same time), and it'll do them better.

This is not a device for anyone who posts in this thread, I imagine, unless you just want one to carry around. This is for people who want to do some things a computer does, but hate computers, and even the supposedly more user-friendly Mac overwhelms them.

Work tech support a while and you'll find the iPad's market: people who buy a computer to get on the Internet, and let it get clogged up with spyware and viruses. They will want a no-maintenance, no fuss machine. Of course, it's restricted as hell, imposing much of Apple's will on its users. But I think that's not a problem for the big majority of users.

It's depressing, and I agree with the article Furtherman linked above. It's like Apple is telling that chick with the hammer from the 1984 ad to go fuck off, and it's Steve Jobs up on that screen we're all staring at now. But I think many more people want that than you think.

Netbook with chrome OS will do it with more features.

[KnoxHarrington]

The fact that such a user exists kinda bothers me.

Oh, it does. And Apple's going to sell a shitload of these things to them.

[KnoxHarrington]

Netbook with chrome OS will do it with more features.

Again, most people could give two shits about "features". They just want something that will give them the new YouTube video of some guy getting hit in the nuts easily.

[TjM]

Again, most people could give two shits about "features". They just want something that will give them the new YouTube video of some guy getting hit in the nuts easily.

Hope they don't want to watch Hulu

[KnoxHarrington]

Hope they don't want to watch Hulu

Maybe Hulu, then, will stop using awful Flash for their site.

I mean, I do agree that the absence of Flash -- mostly due to a stupid pissing contest between Apple and Adobe, not any actual technical issue -- is a problem. But Flash does need to DIAF.

And, again, I don't think that's as big a problem for most users as you think.

[furie]

They've got a great idea there, in a few generations it will be perfected.

And a reasonable price.

exactly

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Oh, it does. And Apple's going to sell a shitload of these things to them.

These are the same friends of mine that will call me for every single fuccin bug. I'm not playing that game this time though.

exactly

I agree here (not that apple is the first to do this) that this a great concept but it's far from perfected; and this is what I hate about apple. They are fully capable of releasing a much better slate computer and we all know it. Hell, my phone can multitask, it will be getting flash soon and the operating system and app development aren't governed by some wacky rules.

[biggestmexi]

http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac65/biggestmexi2/kitterpad.jpg

[biggestmexi]

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[biggestmexi]

http://s.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web02/2010/1/28/4/a-comparative-chart-between-two-tablets-2710-1264671723-11.jpg

[GregPointer]

new fangled thingamjigs anyway. What will they think of next?

It would be awful nice if they could learn the hogs to clean their own shit pit!

[furie]

http://i.imgur.com/Wo27t.jpg

[biggestmexi]

http://media.boygeniusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/apple-chart.jpg

[OGC]

This just about sums it up...

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[Chigworthy]

Look what I found:
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[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Honestly, if this thing was released with a tablet version of OS X I'd probably be all over it because this could have replaced all of my text books and notebooks. I'll just wait for the HP slate.

[opie's twisted balls]

so....any of you actually purchase this POS and have a review to add?

[Bob Impact]

so....any of you actually purchase this POS and have a review to add?

I'm waiting for one of two things to happen:
1) Getting one of them out of the hands of one of my companies new media guys.
2) Waiting for the second generation price drop.

After all the shit talking I did on this thing I would really like one to browse the internet from bed without having to drag out a laptop. Laziness FTW.

[opie's twisted balls]

After all the shit talking I did on this thing I would really like one to browse the internet from bed without having to drag out a laptop. Laziness FTW.
I have an HP netbook in the bedroom that works just fine for lazy surfing and porn watching.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

I have an HP netbook in the bedroom that works just fine for lazy surfing and porn watching.

Can't wait for the HP slate.

[opie's twisted balls]

Can't wait for the HP slate.
guess it would be easier to clean spunk off a touch screen vs. all the nooks and crannies of a keyboard

[Space Edge]

I'm getting one, Can't wait for the dev team to hack the shit out of this thing so I can jailbreak it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm getting one, Can't wait for the dev team to hack the shit out of this thing so I can jailbreak it.

geohot ain't touching it until Iphone 4.0 comes out.

[paulisded]

I bought one today, and it's fantastic. The only negatives I have so far are minor - mainly that you can't charge it through your computer. The kindle app is a huge improvement over the itouch, and while Apple's book selection currently leaves a bit to be desire iBooks is pretty cool. Netflix on demand, and the ABC ap, are also great. Oh yeah, the MLB ap is also a huge step up from the iTouch version.

i'm probably still going to use my iTouch as a music player, but other than that this is what I'll haul around (especially after I root my droid to use as a wifi hot spot).

[Space Edge]

geohot ain't touching it until Iphone 4.0 comes out.

Geohot isn't on the dev-team. These guys are the legit http://blog.iphone-dev.org/
They release better jailbreak software. These guys don't talk about when they will release stuff they just do it, It will happen soon they don't mess around.

Sometimes Geohot will release jailbreaks quicker than then the dev-team but they are buggy as hell. Geohot is basically all about coming up with a way to do it and then won't do it to try and prove a point to other people. While The Dev-Team will create jailbreak software for the good of the "community"

[PapaBear]

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[KnoxHarrington]

I bought one today, and it's fantastic. The only negatives I have so far are minor - mainly that you can't charge it through your computer. The kindle app is a huge improvement over the itouch, and while Apple's book selection currently leaves a bit to be desire iBooks is pretty cool. Netflix on demand, and the ABC ap, are also great. Oh yeah, the MLB ap is also a huge step up from the iTouch version.

i'm probably still going to use my iTouch as a music player, but other than that this is what I'll haul around (especially after I root my droid to use as a wifi hot spot).

Are you using a PC? If so, try the USB ports on the back. Those usually have more juice than the ones on the front. And you can also try a USB hub that's plugged in.

I got to play around with one today, and, yeah, it kicks ass. Now, I wasn't in a place with a wi-fi spot, so I coudln't go online, but I love the iPod app on it, and I love that in landscape mode, I can pretty much type normally (and in portrait I can type pretty well.) I love the photo app as well; much better way to deal with pics.

Yeah, this thing rocks. I'll have one for myself soon.

[Space Edge]

Are you using a PC? If so, try the USB ports on the back. Those usually have more juice than the ones on the front. And you can also try a USB hub that's plugged in.

I got to play around with one today, and, yeah, it kicks ass. Now, I wasn't in a place with a wi-fi spot, so I coudln't go online, but I love the iPod app on it, and I love that in landscape mode, I can pretty much type normally (and in portrait I can type pretty well.) I love the photo app as well; much better way to deal with pics.

Yeah, this thing rocks. I'll have one for myself soon.

I saw a bunch of posts on Twitter saying that it won't charge on a PC's USB port but it will on a Mac USB port. Maybe a future software update will fix that ?

[KnoxHarrington]

I saw a bunch of posts on Twitter saying that it won't charge on a PC's USB port but it will on a Mac USB port. Maybe a future software update will fix that ?

I doubt it can. It has nothing to do with it being a PC or a Mac. It has to do with the output of the USB port. Macs have higher powered USB ports than most PC's.

[Space Edge]

http://is.gd/beaVL initial porting of "Spirit" jailbreak by @comex to iPad
http://i44.tinypic.com/anf1jb.jpg
http://twitter.com/MuscleNerd/status/11594528346

[StanUpshaw]

Does it play xvid??????

[paulisded]

Does it play xvid??????

if you have a program called Air Video, you can stream xvid's that are stored on your home computer.

[StanUpshaw]

So no xvid. Is there still no flash? How about pdf?

[KnoxHarrington]

So no xvid. Is there still no flash? How about pdf?

No Flash, which I'm torn about. It does make a lot of sites I'd go to appear incorrectly, but at the same time, a lot of sites seem to be moving to HTML5 now because of this, and anything that gets us away from that bloated shitware is fine with me.

The iPhone OS has been able to display PDF's since the beginning.

[booster11373]

I want one but I know enough that version 2 or 3 will be better then version 1 so I will be waiting

[Space Edge]

Flash sucks I don't know why people praise flash like it's something great and a deal breaker when it comes to the iPhone, iTouch and iPad . Only shitty web developers use Flash, It's a resource hog and would destroy the battery.

[StanUpshaw]

How much Flash sucks is not the issue. The fact of the matter is that the web, as it stands today, uses an assload of flash. Until it's in its grave, I want my device to PLAY FUCKING FLASH.

[Space Edge]

How much Flash sucks is not the issue. The fact of the matter is that the web, as it stands today, uses an assload of flash. Until it's in its grave, I want my device to PLAY FUCKING FLASH.

If you are that hard up for Flash then jailbreak it and use the flash player app.

[StanUpshaw]

...or spend my money on a something actually fits my needs.

[paulisded]

...or spend my money on a something actually fits my needs.

It's becoming less of an issue all the time. The ipad plays youtube, netflix, cbs, mevio, slingbox and abc. Hulu has an app in development. Air Video converts on the fly any video file on your computer.

[StanUpshaw]

A portable device that I have to keep within the radius of my wireless router? Pass.

I don't have five hundie burning a hole in my pocket. I'm content to wait until something that I can work with comes along.

[paulisded]

A portable device that I have to keep within the radius of my wireless router? Pass.

I don't have five hundie burning a hole in my pocket. I'm content to wait until something that I can work with comes along.

Why would you need to stay within the radius of your router? The basic model just needs any wifi connection for any of those programs I listed before. The version coming out in three weeks has a 3g connection with no contract.

[StanUpshaw]

The AirVideo thing was what I was talking about. You said it streams from your computer. I figured that meant LAN. Are you saying it streams over the web?

Whatever the case, it's still a ridiculous option. I want to be able to dump a bunch of AVIs (or MP4s or MKVs or WMVs) onto the fucker, then take it anywhere. If I can't do that, then it's useless to me.

[KnoxHarrington]

Why would you need to stay within the radius of your router? The basic model just needs any wifi connection for any of those programs I listed before. The version coming out in three weeks has a 3g connection with no contract.

I hope that the model Apple and AT&T have come up with for 3G pricing on these devices becomes the standard.

That said, I hope that eventually 3G (or 4G) functionality becomes standard on these things, not an option.

[KnoxHarrington]

The AirVideo thing was what I was talking about. You said it streams from your computer. I figured that meant LAN. Are you saying it streams over the web?

Whatever the case, it's still a ridiculous option. I want to be able to dump a bunch of AVIs onto the fucker, then take it anywhere. If I can't do that, then it's useless to me.

Actually, I've found that my iPhone plays a lot of those files as is, or iTunes itself can convert them. If not, there's always Handbrake.

I mean, yeah, I hear you, my tranny porn is very important to me too.

[StanUpshaw]

Actually, I've found that my iPhone plays a lot of those files as is, or iTunes itself can convert them. If not, there's always Handbrake.

I mean, yeah, I hear you, my tranny porn is very important to me too.

Again, I don't want extra fucking steps. And I'm certainly not going to pay a premium for the privilege of taking extra steps.

[KnoxHarrington]

Again, I don't want extra fucking steps. And I'm certainly not going to pay a premium for the privilege of taking extra steps.

Ok, then don't buy an iPad. Cool with me.

[biggestmexi]

i'm probably still going to use my iTouch as a music player, but other than that this is what I'll haul around (especially after I root my droid to use as a wifi hot spot).

lol. I love carrying more things around.

I like Opie and Anthony take on it though. Its useless.

[biggestmexi]

Ok, then don't buy an iPad. Cool with me.

why doesnt he just wait and buys one with 3G with it instead of wasting time buying a only wifi model.

Then buying one soon after that, that is better.

[Freitag]

lol. I love carrying more things around.

I like Opie and Anthony take on it though. Its useless.

of course you would, because you're so level headed and unbiased.

[paulisded]

The AirVideo thing was what I was talking about. You said it streams from your computer. I figured that meant LAN. Are you saying it streams over the web?

Whatever the case, it's still a ridiculous option. I want to be able to dump a bunch of AVIs (or MP4s or MKVs or WMVs) onto the fucker, then take it anywhere. If I can't do that, then it's useless to me.

You CAN dump a bunch of MP4's on it. Air Video is for those that either 1). have too much shit on their iPad/iTouch to store more vids or 2). have videos in non-Apple formats. It's like the Simplify audio app but it's for video material. I don't see what's so ridiculous about it.

[paulisded]

why doesnt he just wait and buys one with 3G with it instead of wasting time buying a only wifi model.

Then buying one soon after that, that is better.

I was going to wait for the 3g model, but once I root the droid then it would be a waste of money.

[KnoxHarrington]

I was going to wait for the 3g model, but once I root the droid then it would be a waste of money.

Yeah, same here...I'd either rather wait for AT&T to get off its ass and allow tethering, or even looking into getting the MyFi thing from Sprint instead.

Like I said, I think it's in the best interests of both Apple and AT&T that all models of the iPad have 3G in them, eventually. And I love that you don't need a contract to use 3G on this phone.

As for the "Well, you'll just have to buy a new one in a year"...This doesn't feel like the iPhone situation did to me. The first iPhone was pretty heavily gimped in a lot of ways -- no 3G access, for one thing. It was missing very important features that really impacted its performance. The iPad is missing some things, most notably the camera, but I'm not sure that I'd want to use this as a camera, given its size. About the only practical use for the camera on it I can see is video conferencing,a nd that's not that importnat to me, unless I decide that I would like to show my junk on Chatroulette when I'm not at home. The lack of multitasking is annoying, but that can be resolved by software, and all indications are that iPhone OS 4.0 is going to do that.

So I'm not seeing anything missing from this that would make me shy away from it to the same degree that I shied away from the first generation iPhone. That said, I don't have one yet, and it'll be a while before I get one.

[KnoxHarrington]

You CAN dump a bunch of MP4's on it. Air Video is for those that either 1). have too much shit on their iPad/iTouch to store more vids or 2). have videos in non-Apple formats. It's like the Simplify audio app but it's for video material. I don't see what's so ridiculous about it.

By the wya, here is Apple's official word on what formats are supported:

Audio playback
Frequency response: 20Hz to 20,000Hz
Audio formats supported: HE-AAC (V1), AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3, and 4), Apple Lossless, AIFF, and WAV
User-configurable maximum volume limit
TV and video
Support for 1024 by 768 pixels with Dock Connector to VGA Adapter; 576p and 480p with Apple Component AV Cable; 576i and 480i with Apple Composite AV Cable
H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
Mail attachment support
Viewable document types: .jpg, .tiff, .gif (images); .doc and .docx (Microsoft Word); .htm and .html (web pages); .key (Keynote); .numbers (Numbers); .pages (Pages); .pdf (Preview and Adobe Acrobat); .ppt and .pptx (Microsoft PowerPoint); .txt (text); .rtf (rich text format); .vcf (contact information); .xls and .xlsx (Microsoft Excel)

As long as it's H.264, it should pretty much work. Some conversion might be required to get the size for the screen right, but I'm not aware of any other player/smartphone that doesn't have that issue too.

[paulisded]

As long as it's H.264, it should pretty much work. Some conversion might be required to get the size for the screen right, but I'm not aware of any other player/smartphone that doesn't have that issue too.

That's why I love AirVideo. It takes about 30 seconds of buffering to begin converting, and then plays perfectly. I don't have to waste space on the player, and between my 3 computers (including work) I have a ton of shit at my disposal. Just like with Simplify, I have my entire music library, including bootleg FLACs.

I love my droid, but I can't do either of these things on it.

[biggestmexi]

That's why I love AirVideo. It takes about 30 seconds of buffering to begin converting, and then plays perfectly. I don't have to waste space on the player, and between my 3 computers (including work) I have a ton of shit at my disposal. Just like with Simplify, I have my entire music library, including bootleg FLACs.

I love my droid, but I can't do either of these things on it.

You are only talking about one thing there. Streaming media from home.

The droid can do that.

[biggestmexi]

What are you guys going to MAINLY use this for?

[Space Edge]

Air Video is a great app, I discovered that a few months ago and I use it all the time. Don't have to worry about synching up loads of video. Only downside is that if I'm away from my house for a while and my desktop shuts down then i'm screwed.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Air Video is a great app, I discovered that a few months ago and I use it all the time. Don't have to worry about synching up loads of video. Only downside is that if I'm away from my house for a while and my desktop shuts down then i'm screwed.

http://lifehacker.com/348197/access-your-computer-anytime-and-save-energy-with-wake+on+lan

You're welcomed in advance.

[paulisded]

You are only talking about one thing there. Streaming media from home.

The droid can do that.

No, I was talking about two things. Simplify is a similar program but for audio.

And as much as I love my droid, I don't enjoy video on it. Plus, the netflix and slingplayer apps aren't on the doroid.

[StanUpshaw]

So two half-assed programs that when combined serve one purpose?

[paulisded]

So two half-assed programs that when combined serve one purpose?

Whatever. They serve their purpose for me, and that's all I give a shit about.

The droid doesn't do either.

[biggestmexi]

Whatever. They serve their purpose for me, and that's all I give a shit about.

The droid doesn't do either.

http://phandroid.com/2010/03/19/sling-player-coming-to-android/

http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-nextmobileweb-phoneflix-Aqm.aspx

http://www.flixster.com/mobile/apps/android

not to mention you can use orb and other programs.

Its does do bouth but your to ignorant to look.

the only thing you got is that "you dont like it"

[biggestmexi]

http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/aha_a_peak_inside_the_apple_ip.php

[paulisded]

http://phandroid.com/2010/03/19/sling-player-coming-to-android/

http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-nextmobileweb-phoneflix-Aqm.aspx

http://www.flixster.com/mobile/apps/android

not to mention you can use orb and other programs.

Its does do bouth but your to ignorant to look.

the only thing you got is that "you dont like it"

Wow, mexi. Just by saying I like something I deserve the attitude?

Yes, netflix and sling will be great when it's available for the droid. But I do like it on my iPad. Big fucking deal.

[Hottub]

Downloading netflix as we speak

[biggestmexi]

Wow, mexi. Just by saying I like something I deserve the attitude?

Yes, netflix and sling will be great when it's available for the droid. But I do like it on my iPad. Big fucking deal.

i was poitning out the fact that they are available via those apps.

and you can stream these things of your pc.

and what was wrong with getting a laptop?

even better.

[paulisded]

i was poitning out the fact that they are available via those apps.

and you can stream these things of your pc.

and what was wrong with getting a laptop?

even better.

I understand what you're saying, but i do have uses for all of these devices (droid, itouch, ipad). There are things one device does better than the other, and vice versa. I don't like video or readers on the smaller devices, for example. I've used them for that purpose, but now I have something that works better for me. I'm not saying it's for everybody.

Now stop hating me and help me root my fucking phone! :)

[RhinoinMN]

Mexi calling this thing ugly makes me chuckle.


He isn't exactly an expert on all things beautiful.

[Hottub]

Mexi calling this thing ugly makes me chuckle.


He isn't exactly an expert on all things beautiful.

Sure he his.

http://www.healthspablog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/beautiful-nails1.jpg

[Freitag]

Mexi getting upset makes me laugh. Because not only will AT&T hemmorage users when Iphone comes to Big Red, you'll also see a swing in people jumping from VZW Android phones to Iphone, and THAT will make Mexi's head cave in.

[biggestmexi]

Mexi getting upset makes me laugh. Because not only will AT&T hemmorage users when Iphone comes to Big Red, you'll also see a swing in people jumping from VZW Android phones to Iphone, and THAT will make Mexi's head cave in.

there is a reason why people dumped the iphone for the droid already.

If they want cripple so bad they would get it

[OGC]

Here's the big test of the new ipad

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[furie]

durable

[Tenbatsuzen]

there is a reason why people dumped the iphone for the droid already.



Yes. AT&T sucks. The Verizon Iphone is the #1 piece of tech people want.

[disneyspy]

Yes. AT&T sucks. The Verizon Iphone is the #1 piece of tech people want.

wait a second, i asked if this was possible,damn ive been misled again,thank god for matty,i cant wait to go find this wonderful piece of technology

[Hottub]

Yes. AT&T sucks. The Verizon Iphone is the #1 piece of tech people want.

Where did you get that "fact"? I have a guess where.

And no it is not. People are creaming for EVO.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Where did you get that "fact"? I have a guess where.

And no it is not. People are creaming for EVO.

Tech heads are creaming for evo. And the pricetag of the Evo vs. what the pricetag for the Verizon Iphone is going to be the game breaker.

Regular people - millions of them - want the ease of the Iphone on the best network in the country. Period.

[biggestmexi]

Regular people - millions of them - want the ease of the Iphone on the best network in the country. Period.


i think you meant to say waterheads.

[Furtherman]

Tech wizardry aside, Verizon does have the best service in the NE.. I don't know about the rest of country.

[biggestmexi]

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[disneyspy]

Tech wizardry aside, Verizon does have the best service in the NE.. I don't know about the rest of country.

you are an absolute fool if you dont have verizon in the midwest

[biggestmexi]

Tech wizardry aside, Verizon does have the best service in the NE.. I don't know about the rest of country.

some places i will say at&t has leverage over vzw, but not many.

[Tenbatsuzen]

i think you meant to say waterheads.

Not everyone is a tech geek, mexi. They just want their phone to work. The Ipod Touch works for me. it works for a LOT of people.

[weekapaugjz]

some places i will say at&t has leverage over vzw, but not many.

my area, but it's not a very populated one. there are a lot of places where i get 3 or 4 bars of service where vzw has zero coverage.

[underdog]

my area, but it's not a very populated one. there are a lot of places where i get 3 or 4 bars of service where vzw has zero coverage.

Really? My wife's family only uses Verizon phones around Casadega.

[weekapaugjz]

Really? My wife's family only uses Verizon phones around Casadega.

from my experiences at least. i'm sure there are spots that verizon comes in where att doesn't, but i haven't come across any. and i've never had any bad experience in casadaga either, i have a bunch of family there.

[biggestmexi]

Not everyone is a tech geek, mexi. They just want their phone to work. The Ipod Touch works for me. it works for a LOT of people.

exactly, if your not a techhead in this word of pretty much all tech you might as well be called a waterhead.

There is no reason not be good with technology now.

Its like a caveman being useless with stone tools.

[sailor]

exactly, if your not a techhead in this word of pretty much all tech you might as well be called a waterhead.

There is no reason not be good with technology now.

Its like a caveman being useless with stone tools.

you can use the technology without being a fanboi like yourself.

[biggestmexi]

you can use the technology without being a fanboi like yourself.

. . . :dry:

[underdog]

There is no reason not be good with technology now.

Its like a caveman being useless with stone tools.

Are you speaking like a caveman on purpose?

[RhinoinMN]

exactly, if your not a techhead in this word of pretty much all tech you might as well be called a waterhead.

There is no reason not be good with technology now.

Its like a caveman being useless with stone tools.

Thanks, dick.

[RhinoinMN]

Are you speaking like a caveman on purpose?


The techies screamed right passed English class.

[biggestmexi]

Are you speaking like a caveman on purpose?

Its perfectly fine undercarriage.

and you have NO reason to be in this thread!

[biggestmexi]

Thanks, dick.

your getting there.

Soon enough ill have you buying a jitterbug without even realizing it.

[underdog]

Its perfectly fine undercarriage.

and you have NO reason to be in this thread!

I have a reason to be in every thread!

[biggestmexi]

I have a reason to be in every thread!

I like you better at the other board.

stay there!

QUIT QUOTING ME, CREEP!

[underdog]

I like you better at the other board.

stay there!

QUIT QUOTING ME, CREEP!

I'm just going to follow you around and quote you.

[biggestmexi]

I'm just going to follow you around and quote you.

well i have to say, you are really derailing this thread.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/members/vertigo+paris/albums/misc+pics-36/thread-derail-1953.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

well i have to say, you are really derailing this thread.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/members/vertigo+paris/albums/misc+pics-36/thread-derail-1953.jpg

That's rich, considering you started this thread to derail the ipad in the first place.

[KnoxHarrington]

That's rich, considering you started this thread to derail the ipad in the first place.

Yeah, this was pretty much a troll thread from the beginning.

[biggestmexi]

That's rich, considering you started this thread to derail the ipad in the first place.

you bet.

so thats the thread topic, whats your point?

[Barnaby Jones]

Forget this piece of crap. It's for tweens and old people. I can't wait to see what the Courier can do instead of this toy.

[Space Edge]

you bet.

so thats the thread topic, whats your point?

and If someone posted something negative about the droid you would go ape shit

"OMGZZZZ people are stupid, you are stupid if you don't search for the right apps to use Omgzzzzzzzzzzz, People who don't pay attention to tech specs are water heads, Only a ignortant person would use that device OMGZ"

You hate for things non "droid" is more sickening then the apple fan boys

AMIRITE?

[biggestmexi]

and If someone posted something negative about the droid you would go ape shit

"OMGZZZZ people are stupid, you are stupid if you don't search for the right apps to use Omgzzzzzzzzzzz, People who don't pay attention to tech specs are water heads, Only a ignortant person would use that device OMGZ"

You hate for things non "droid" is more sickening then the apple fan boys

AMIRITE?

I don't hate all things non droid

[Tenbatsuzen]

and If someone posted something negative about the droid you would go ape shit

"OMGZZZZ people are stupid, you are stupid if you don't search for the right apps to use Omgzzzzzzzzzzz, People who don't pay attention to tech specs are water heads, Only a ignortant person would use that device OMGZ"

You hate for things non "droid" is more sickening then the apple fan boys

AMIRITE?

that's exactly what mexi is like, some bad parody apple fanboy, but on earth 2.

He still hasn't come up with an answer on why the droid has such a lousy form factor.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

that's exactly what mexi is like, some bad parody apple fanboy, but on earth 2.

He still hasn't come up with an answer on why the droid has such a lousy form factor.

Two things:

1. The droid has a lovely form factor.

2. Is form factor the only thing you AAPL fanboys care about?

[Chigworthy]

What the fuck is "form factor"? It sounds like a cheap cologne from the 80's.

[Freitag]

Two things:

1. The droid has a lovely form factor.

2. Is form factor the only thing you AAPL fanboys care about?

I'll start with 2. first

I'm not an apple fanboy.

As for 1., the droid's keyboard STINKS ON ICE. It's one of the main reasons why I didn't get the droid.

I'm not anti-Android or anti-Droid. It's just the keyboard doesn't work for my needs.

[EliSnow]

Mexi feels about the iPad the way Fez feels about Sandra Bullock

[Freitag]

What the fuck is "form factor"? It sounds like a cheap cologne from the 80's.

The shape, size, and functionality of the external area of the phone.

If a phone is bulky, heavy, or has a bad keyboard, it detracts from the form factor.

[Freitag]

I don't hate all things non droid

But you DO deride anything apple related, which is completely twisted and biased.

[biggestmexi]

I'll start with 2. first

I'm not an apple fanboy.

As for 1., the droid's keyboard STINKS ON ICE. It's one of the main reasons why I didn't get the droid.

I'm not anti-Android or anti-Droid. It's just the keyboard doesn't work for my needs.

The shape, size, and functionality of the external area of the phone.

If a phone is bulky, heavy, or has a bad keyboard, it detracts from the form factor.


instead you went with a heavier phone(which i dont know how that possible as the droid is pretty heavy(but it doesnt really matter)), less CPU speed, smaller display, windows 6.1(maybe you have the update), maybe a worse camera, but you do have a nicer keyboard.

fair enough.

[biggestmexi]

But you DO deride anything apple related, which is completely twisted and biased.

and?

The Ipad is a retarded, useless device.

[Hottub]

But you DO deride anything apple related, which is completely twisted and biased.

I LOVE Apple.

They just sent me my check.:thumbup:
Settlement for the class action suit against the 1st gen. Nano.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

I'll start with 2. first

I'm not an apple fanboy.

As for 1., the droid's keyboard STINKS ON ICE. It's one of the main reasons why I didn't get the droid.

I'm not anti-Android or anti-Droid. It's just the keyboard doesn't work for my needs.

lol I was fucking with someone else not you and I was more making fun that he said form factor.

[sailor]

Why can't y'all just enjoy the phone you have and stop whining about other people's phones like a bunch of femmes?

[StanUpshaw]

Why can't y'all just enjoy the phone you have and stop whining about other people's phones like a bunch of femmes?

Racism is frowned upon these days, so this is the next best thing.

[Chigworthy]

Why can't y'all just enjoy the phone you have and stop whining about other people's phones like a bunch of femmes?

I thought the whole "form factor" thing was pretty gay, too.

[Freitag]

instead you went with a heavier phone(which i dont know how that possible as the droid is pretty heavy(but it doesnt really matter)), less CPU speed, smaller display, windows 6.1(maybe you have the update), maybe a worse camera, but you do have a nicer keyboard.

fair enough.

As I use my phone primarily for texting, this is a pretty big deal.