Cook my steak

[Snoogans]

You're right. I've seen the poor cows frantic. Pacing back and forth wondering where they will get their next blade of grass.

Go blow epo.

you just brought up why it matters. They heard hundreds in a small space and give them feed in one spot. they fight to get in there first, they fight for space. they dont just stand there like dummies. It causes stresses that toughen the muscles.

[Freitag]

Consumer Reports:

http://www.tonysmarket.com/foodhealth/freerange.cfm#cu



Free range (or free roaming) is a general claim that implies that a meat or poultry product, including eggs, comes from an animal that was raised in the open air or was free to roam. Its use on beef is unregulated and there is no standard definition of this term. Free range is regulated by the USDA for use on poultry only (not eggs) and USDA requires that birds have been given access to the outdoors but for an undetermined period each day.



Nothing about additives or hormones.

[Snoogans]

Consumer Reports:

http://www.tonysmarket.com/foodhealth/freerange.cfm#cu



Nothing about additives or hormones.

you are seriously being like bulldog cakes right now. The USDA WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING IF IT DOESNT MAKE THE PRODUCT UNHEALTHY. We are talking about the difference in the meat for the 2 methods, not the fuckin laws against or for free ranging the animal.

You are arguing something that has no bearing on anything. its what the company chooses to do with the cows, not the government.

Stop making yourself look like BDC. argue the point

[Hottub]

you just brought up why it matters. They heard hundreds in a small space and give them feed in one spot. they fight to get in there first, they fight for space. they dont just stand there like dummies. It causes stresses that toughen the muscles.

What does that have to do with hormones? Nothing. You are talking out of your ass.
Again.

[JerseyRich]

Cows have stress? Now who's drinking the kool aid?
http://vimeo.com/1130259

[Freitag]

Stop making yourself look like BDC. argue the point


Peter Abraham is not free range.

[Snoogans]

free range is a way to raise your cattle. being it has no effect on the health of the cattle, the USDA doesnt regulate it, meaning you can do it 24/7. they dont let you free range chickens that much, cause they can get diseases. thats the reason they dont have regulations. It has nothing to do with the taste of the food, therefore your point is wrong.

The companies free range the meat cause they know it will make it softer. Its still the same cows and same packaging, so the USDA just doesnt care if you do or dont is all. It doesnt mean it doesnt do anything. Learn to comprehend shit

[Snoogans]

What does that have to do with hormones? Nothing. You are talking out of your ass.
Again.

cause hormones make the muscles tougher, therefore not as soft. Hormones are given to penned animals to make them grow faster. thats why they ARENT AS SOFT.

you can give them to free range animals but most doesnt cause its pointless. they are free range so they can eat wild grass

[Aggie]

this is getting ridiculous.

what steak house should i eat at tonight? so many to choose from. this is my current favorite: http://www.delfriscos.com/

[Snoogans]

this is getting ridiculous.

what steak house should i eat at tonight? so many to choose from. this is my current favorite: http://www.delfriscos.com/

Sizzler

[JerseyRich]

What we have learned in the 2nd part of this thread:

1. Never attend an event catered by Hottub and Matty.

2. Snoogans' meat is soft

3. As long as Aggie keeps agreeing with me, all will be fine.

4. We all love meat...no matter what form it is cut, cooked and served.

[Snoogans]

http://vimeo.com/1130259

HAHAHAHAHAHA. thats awesome. TAKE THAT TUB

[Snoogans]

What we have learned in the 2nd part of this thread:

1. Never attend an event catered by Hottub and Matty.

2. Snoogans' meat is soft

3. As long as Aggie keeps agreeing with me, all will be fine.

4. We all love meat...no matter what form it is cut, cooked and served.

i think we all went soft once Gvac left

[JerseyRich]

i think we all went soft once Gvac left

Some of us actually still see his posts...He's just as good as he's ever been.

[Aggie]

What we have learned in the 2nd part of this thread:

1. Never attend an event catered by Hottub and Matty.

2. Snoogans' meat is soft

3. As long as Aggie keeps agreeing with me, all will be fine.

4. We all love meat...no matter what form it is cut, cooked and served.

i will agree and follow you like a sheep as long as i can be free range sheep.

[Snoogans]

i will agree and follow you like a sheep as long as i can be free range sheep.

i dont know why but i find this hysterical

[JerseyRich]

i dont know why but i find this hysterical

And kinda hot.

[underdog]

Are there people seriously arguing that the conditions cows live in won't change the taste of the meat?

Also, if I remember correctly, when it comes to poultry, free range means shit. You want cage free. Free range just means the farmer lets the poultry out of the cage sometimes, but there's no set time it has to be let out.

[JerseyRich]

Are there people seriously arguing that the conditions cows live in won't change the taste of the meat?


It's a mad mad world.

[Mitch&Murray]

Gotta love being a 20 something stoner who can smoke a bowl @ 3 in the afternoon,go out and overpay for steak,cook it and post it on line and still have a nap before watching cartoons the rest of the afternoon

Bake on bro.

[Snoogans]

Gotta love being a 20 something stoner who can smoke a bowl @ 3 in the afternoon,go out and overpay for steak,cook it and post it on line and still have a nap before watching cartoons the rest of the afternoon

im actually still awake and watchin liverpool and wolverampton

monday and tuesaday are my days off

[Mitch&Murray]

im actually still awake and watchin liverpool and wolverampton

monday and tuesaday are my days off



What! all that steak would put me into a coma. :tongue:

[Snoogans]

What! all that steak would put me into a coma. :tongue:

i had crab rolls too

[Freitag]

Tonight, I cook steaks, corn, and noodles.

I'll take pictures.

[Snoogans]

i love how he gives up on his meat crusade once he realized he was wrong and not just arguing with me

[Aggie]

Tonight, I cook steaks, corn, and noodles.

I'll take pictures.

are they being defrosted?

[Hottub]

What we have learned in the 2nd part of this thread:

1. Never attend an event catered by Hottub and Matty.

2. Snoogans' meat is soft

3. As long as Aggie keeps agreeing with me, all will be fine.

4. We all love meat...no matter what form it is cut, cooked and served.

I seem to recall you coming to one of my bbq's.






Empty handed, ya cheap prick.

[Snoogans]

I seem to recall you coming to one of my bbq's.






Empty handed, ya cheap prick.

would you really want english food at a BBQ?

[Dell]

tonight I will be grilling one Porterhouse and three Delmonico steaks (catered to individual tastes)...I made the mistake of reading this thread earlier and had to dash to the grocery...fuckin starvin...

[Hottub]

would you really want english people at a BBQ?

He crashed it.

[JerseyRich]

I seem to recall you coming to one of my bbq's.

Empty handed, ya cheap prick.

There wasn't even any food left when we got there!

Which, by the looks of your cooking techniques, I should be happy about.

:smoke:


Everyone was drunk and belligerent by the time WE(Gregory, Kuter and I) arrived.

You really enjoyed racist Randy?

[Snoogans]

There wasn't even any food left when we got there!

Which, by the looks of your cooking techniques, I should be happy about.

:smoke:


?

what do you mean? What stresses?

[Freitag]

i love how he gives up on his meat crusade once he realized he was wrong and not just arguing with me

Not really, I was doing something called "work".

You are still wrong, it's just hard to debate with you when you're being belligerent.

[Aggie]

tonight I will be grilling one Porterhouse and three Delmonico steaks (catered to individual tastes)...I made the mistake of reading this thread earlier and had to dash to the grocery...fuckin starvin...

what time should i be there? i like mine medium rare.

[Snoogans]

Not really, I was doing something called "work".

You are still wrong, it's just hard to debate with you when you're being belligerent.

what about the other 4 people who are "being belligerent" by not agreeing with you.

[JerseyRich]

Stop using my word.

I had to actually look up the spelling and everything! You guys are such rip off artists!

[Mitch&Murray]

Tonight, I cook steaks, corn, and noodles.

I'll take pictures.



Steak AGAIN?
Why aren't you saving for the babies dip Tet?
Selfish prick

[Hottub]

Steak AGAIN?
Why aren't you saving for the babies dip Tet?
Selfish prick

You know you can dip the babie's pinky in iodine and save on the orthodonture.

[Death Metal Moe]

Our place has open architecture

http://www.indymedia.org/images/2009/08/927584.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

Steak AGAIN?
Why aren't you saving for the babies dip Tet?
Selfish prick

DrJoeK, everybody.

[Thebazile78]

OK, thanks to you fuckos I want grass fed steaks, but hate cooking them more done than medium-rare, which is off limits to the preggo.

I hate you all for making me crave something I shouldn't have.

I hope you're all happy.

Fuckos.

[Death Metal Moe]

OK, thanks to you fuckos I want grass fed steaks, but hate cooking them more done than medium-rare, which is off limits to the preggo.

I hate you all for making me crave something I shouldn't have.

I hope you're all happy.

Fuckos.

The term more accepted on Ronfez.net is "fuckstick."

[Thebazile78]

The term more accepted on Ronfez.net is "fuckstick."

I can't bring myself to use "fuckstick" without giggling.

Makes me think of this:

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(Frankly, I'd rather have the latter than the former.)

[Hottub]

Just waiting for Joe the Bartender and his O-pinion.

[joethebartender]

Just waiting for Joe the Bartender and his O-pinion.

I wasn't invited to your bbq. I guess it has to do with my not being English.

I had an English problem once... (now we just spray once a month and they haven't come back).

Get a real grill. Buy some charcoal. Stop buying horse meat.

[Don Stugots]

Mac and cheese? Will you be having juice boxes as well?

Pan fry the steak. Cut it up into tiny pieces and douse with ketchup.

mac and cheese with some bacon cubes and bread crumbs is heaven.

ketchup? hahahahaha

[Don Stugots]

I wasn't invited to your bbq. I guess it has to do with my not being English.

I had an English problem once... (now we just spray once a month and they haven't come back).

Get a real grill. Buy some charcoal. Stop buying horse meat.

it was a great BBQ but some skinny fat ass ate all the rib eye steaks

[Tenbatsuzen]

So.

Dinner tonight was Strip Steaks, garlic fries from Trader Joe's, and some noodles.

Noodles were OK. Garlic fries were decent for oven baked fries, but next time I'll put on like half the garlic sauce.

Liz's steak was cooked just right. Mine was on a cooler side of the grill so it had to cook a little more.

It was decent.

[weekapaugjz]

So.

Dinner tonight was Strip Steaks, garlic fries from Trader Joe's, and some noodles.

Noodles were OK. Garlic fries were decent for oven baked fries, but next time I'll put on like half the garlic sauce.

Liz's steak was cooked just right. Mine was on a cooler side of the grill so it had to cook a little more.

It was decent.

what's in the garlic sauce for the fries? just oil and garlic?

[epo]

DrJoeK, everybody.

Duh.

[epo]

Free range cattle is bullshit.
You are a fool.

Free range really doesn't mean anything when it comes to taste of meat. Veal ain't free range. Free range is just a feel good buzzterm for people who don't want to be cruel to animals.


You both fail. Do not pass go.

[Snoogans]

You both fail. Do not pass go.

epo you dont know how many times i told them wait til you get here when they argued with me.

Hottub actually said "what stresses?"

[JerseyRich]

Like I said...we have solved something here today. Never let Tub or Matty cook for us.

I would be happy to cook two steaks with Snoogans. One with nothing on it...one cooked my way. I'll share and we can compare!

[Snoogans]

Like I said...we have solved something here today. Never let Tub or Matty cook for us.

I would be happy to cook two steaks with Snoogans. One with nothing on it...one cooked my way. I'll share and we can compare!

im fine with that. I can accept people doing what they want with their own food.

[Hottub]

You both fail. Do not pass go.

Without documentation, this is more smoke and mirrors. And I don't mean spin from your sausage factory. I mean proof, goddammit!

Do what you do best. We are waiting.

[JerseyRich]

Even in defeat, he is in denial...

[weekapaugjz]

I'll share and we can compare!

sounds sexy.

[epo]

Without documentation, this is more smoke and mirrors. And I don't mean spin from your sausage factory. I mean proof, goddammit!

Do what you do best. We are waiting.

You probably ask your grocery store "butcher" for lean ground beef too.

Faggot.

[JerseyRich]

Hey, if you get a chance to compare your meat with Snoogans, you jump!

[epo]

Without documentation, this is more smoke and mirrors. And I don't mean spin from your sausage factory. I mean proof, goddammit!

Do what you do best. We are waiting.

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[Hottub]

umm no. when they arent free range, they are given hormones and shit to get bigger faster. They dont get to live as long and they have much more stress, resulting in tougher meat. You really are a researchless ass arent you


Did you guys even see this moronic answer? My god. What a fucking half-wit!
Get a clue, brah.
Oh yeah, "epo will back me up"
Yeah, I'll bet he will.
Faggots.

[Snoogans]

Did you guys even see this moronic answer? My god. What a fucking half-wit!
Get a clue, brah.
Oh yeah, "epo will back me up"
Yeah, I'll bet he will.
Faggots.

epo cause he has professional knowledge. If i needed to know the name of some Winger song, then id ask you for backup

[JerseyRich]

winger Face!

[Hottub]

What Have We Learned. Pt. III


Rich shall never be invited to a Tub hosted event as long as he shall live
Matty fails monumentally at dinner
epo will bow to any group or organization that will line his filthy pockets.
Snoogans' taste buds are destroyed by too many years of blunts.
Tub's taste buds are destroyed by licking the afore mentions mom's box for hours on end.

[Mitch&Murray]

What Have We Learned. Pt. III


Rich shall never be invited to a Tub hosted event as long as he shall live
Matty fails monumentally at dinner
epo will bow to any group or organization that will line his filthy pockets.
Snoogans' taste buds are destroyed by too many years of blunts.
Tub's taste buds are destroyed by licking the afore mentions mom's box for hours on end.


Matty thinks he's a genius exposing the worst kept secret on .net

[epo]

Nothing wrong with buying in bulk, cutting into steaks and freezing.
Use butcher paper, then put that in a plastic bag. It'll hold up for months.

You seriously disgust me.

[Snoogans]

You seriously disgust me.

i knew there was a reason we get along so well

[epo]

i knew there was a reason we get along so well

I seriously can't go back and read any more of this thread.

Frozen steak? Medium? Doubting stress & its impact on the quality of meat?

I can't handle these people....

[Snoogans]

I seriously can't go back and read any more of this thread.

Frozen steak? Medium? Doubting stress on meat?

I can't handle these people....

seriously, what stress could a cow in a pen jammed in with tons of other cows fighting to get to the feed, watching his brothers get slaughtered, possibly have compared to a cow that can walk around and chill and eat any grass it wants and just lay in peace without steroids or anything.

[epo]

seriously, what stress could a cow in a pen jammed in with tons of other cows fighting to get to the feed, watching his brothers get slaughtered, possibly have compared to a cow that can walk around and chill and eat any grass it wants and just lay in peace without steroids or anything.

Good rule of thumb:

Less stress = More deliciousness.

[Snoogans]

Good rule of thumb:

Less stress = More deliciousness.

"Aussie Premium® beef is a product of its environment. Australia's vast pastures, clean rainfall, abundant sunshine and free range conditions produce the world's finest all-natural beef.

Aussie Premium® beef, predominately Angus and Hereford breeds, is selected for its superior meat quality and high yields. The cattle graze freely, feeding on alfalfa and rye. These high protein grasses are converted to soft textured muscle rather than fat.

Aussie Premium® beef is processed under HACCP guidelines that are regularly audited and approved by the USDA.

Aussie Premium® ...Beef ...the way it used to be"

[disneyspy]

now i know why women like to blow me,its because i massage my meat alot and it isnt stressed out

[weekapaugjz]

now i know why women like to blow me,its because i massage my meat alot and it isnt stressed out

really?

[disneyspy]

really?

i'm told its delicous

[epo]

really?

You aren't the only one who questioned that. Thank you for standing up for freedom, America and medium rare steak.

[weekapaugjz]

"Aussie Premium® beef is a product of its environment. Australia's vast pastures, clean rainfall, abundant sunshine and free range conditions produce the world's finest all-natural beef.

Aussie Premium® beef, predominately Angus and Hereford breeds, is selected for its superior meat quality and high yields. The cattle graze freely, feeding on alfalfa and rye. These high protein grasses are converted to soft textured muscle rather than fat.

Aussie Premium® beef is processed under HACCP guidelines that are regularly audited and approved by the USDA.

Aussie Premium® ...Beef ...the way it used to be"

if you do ever come across a wegman's, give their organic grass fed beef a try (http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PressReleaseDetailView?storeId=10052&catalogId=1&langId=-1&productId=665623). my mom made a pot roast with the organic chuck roast a few weeks ago and it was killer. i'd like to know how their stuff compares to this aussie stuff

[weekapaugjz]

You aren't the only one who questioned that. Thank you for standing up for freedom, America and medium rare steak.

i've actually been finding that i enjoy it more on the rare side now-a-days. it seems when i order mid-rare anywhere it comes out too done and i want to go back and choke the cook.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Good rule of thumb:

Less stress = More deliciousness.

good to know I taste like shit then

[disneyspy]

good to know I taste like shit then

wrong hole

[Tenbatsuzen]

epo cause he has professional knowledge. If i needed to know the name of some Winger song, then id ask you for backup

I have professional knowledge of radio and people laugh at me. try again

[weekapaugjz]

I have professional knowledge of radio and people laugh at me. try again

epo doesn't mention it constantly.

[Tenbatsuzen]

epo doesn't mention it constantly.

neither have I for the past two years.

[weekapaugjz]

neither have I for the past two years.

yeah, it was a bit of a stretch.

[epo]

I have professional knowledge of radio and people laugh at me. try again

That's because radio isn't delicious.

[Snoogans]

if you do ever come across a wegman's, give their organic grass fed beef a try (http://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/PressReleaseDetailView?storeId=10052&catalogId=1&langId=-1&productId=665623). my mom made a pot roast with the organic chuck roast a few weeks ago and it was killer. i'd like to know how their stuff compares to this aussie stuff

chuck steak is fuckin awful

[weekapaugjz]

chuck steak is fuckin awful

not in a pot roast.

they have several cuts in their organic line.

[Snoogans]

That's because radio isn't delicious.

indeed. always trust a man who knows whats delicious

[PapaBear]

not in a pot roast.

they have several cuts in their organic line.
With the crock post roast that I like to cook, chuck is the only cut that comes out right. I use a can of coke in it, and it comes out so tender, it melts in your mouth.

[Snoogans]

With the crock post roast that I like to cook, chuck is the only cut that comes out right. I use a can of coke in it, and it comes out so tender, it melts in your mouth.

what the fuck is wrong with people. the process of cooking steak should never be combined with soda in any fashion ever

[PapaBear]

what the fuck is wrong with people. the process of cooking steak should never be combined with soda in any fashion ever
Steak and pot roast are two completely different entities.

[Snoogans]

no regulations doesnt mean its a marketing term. it just means they dont have laws on the books for free ranging the animal as opposed to keeping it in a pen. As long as it doesnt make the meat unhealthy, the USDA wouldnt give a shit. Stop tryin to spin that into something it has nothing to do with.

Again, EPOS FAMILY OWNS A MEAT PROCESSING PLANT. ASK HIM IF FREE RANGE MAKES A DIFFERENCE AND THEN PREPARE TO APOLOGIZE TO ME

You both fail. Do not pass go.

thank you

apologize faggots

[Snoogans]

why is it that you guys cant accept being wrong and me being right but as soon as epo says it you all just accept that. Thats why i kept saying ask him. Does it really hurt you guys so much that i can smoke an ounce in a month and still be smarter and know more facts about things?

[TjM]

I usually use Guiness for my roast or stews (Stout not drought)

[hurlmon]

chuck steak is fuckin awful

oh no... chuck is your friend. Smoke a nice chuck roast for delicious pulled beef sammys.

http://www.ruthiesbbq.com/images/aboutus2.jpg

[ozzie]

blow me with your chemical reactions bill nye.

Line of the Thread!!!

i don't know why we're bothering. he eats kfc and taco bell.

Is that at the combination kfc and taco bell?

free range is a way to raise your cattle. being it has no effect on the health of the cattle, the USDA doesnt regulate it, meaning you can do it 24/7. they dont let you free range chickens that much, cause they can get diseases. thats the reason they dont have regulations. It has nothing to do with the taste of the food, therefore your point is wrong.

The companies free range the meat cause they know it will make it softer. Its still the same cows and same packaging, so the USDA just doesnt care if you do or dont is all. It doesnt mean it doesnt do anything. Learn to comprehend shit

I don't think anyone's arguing that true, free-range beef wouldn't be better... but rather that since it's not regulated, it sounds like anyone can slap the "Free Range" label on their meat, so unless you know the source... the term is meaningless when applied to beef.

That's why it's still just a "marketing term", and not yet an official grade of meat. There's no one verifying exactly how the cattle was raised, or setting any standard that must be met.

[Snoogans]

Line of the Thread!!!



Is that at the combination kfc and taco bell?



I don't think anyone's arguing that true, free-range beef wouldn't be better... but rather that since it's not regulated, it sounds like anyone can slap the "Free Range" label on their meat, so unless you know the source... the term is meaningless when applied to beef.

That's why it's still just a "marketing term", and not yet an official grade of meat. There's no one verifying exactly how the cattle was raised, or setting any standard that must be met.
well, tenbatz and hottub both were arguing that free range isnt better. And he continued to tell me it was just for marketing after i showed him how they were indeed free range grass fed no hormones cows. And still they acted like its the same shit

[Tenbatsuzen]

well, tenbatz and hottub both were arguing that free range isnt better. And he continued to tell me it was just for marketing after i showed him how they were indeed free range grass fed no hormones cows. And still they acted like its the same shit

Actually, Ozzie managed to put across the point I was trying to make.

I'd trust a free range steak from Wegman's more than I would a free range steak from Shop Rite.

[Snoogans]

Actually, Ozzie managed to put across the point I was trying to make.

I'd trust a free range steak from Wegman's more than I would a free range steak from Shop Rite.

its about the company. Im sure wegmans has the exact same brand. its not shoprite butcher steaks. it comes from the australian company to many stores

and hate on shoprite all you want, butt the one by me is a butcher all the same. probably the same shit as wegmens. I watch the guy through a window cut the steaks off of the quarter cow just like how i do at the regular butcher shop i go to. There is no problem with them.

and no, your point was never about the stores. your point was that free range is just a marketing term and has no effect on the meat. Now you have changed your point AGAIN just to try to be right. Just accept you arent, and leave me alone