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[Chigworthy]

Why the fuck can I not move files when there is only one user account on my vista system? When I want to move a folder from one location to another, vista says I need admin permission to move it. I am the admin you fuck; I own you! I have only one account, and it is the admin account. I actually have to turn off UAC every time I want to move a file now, and that triggers a security alert which does not go away. Fucking suck!

[KingGeno]

You are aware that you can shut UAC off right? Go into control panel, Users, your account and disable it.

[boosterp]

Buy Win 7.

In reality though you have to not only disable UAC through the control panel but you may need to allow file sharing (if to an external drive, etc) through Win's firewall which is not enabled by default.

[Chigworthy]

You are aware that you can shut UAC off right?

Yes. Hence:

I actually have to turn off UAC every time I want to move a file now, and that triggers a security alert which does not go away.

[Chigworthy]

Buy Win 7.

In reality though you have to not only disable UAC through the control panel but you may need to allow file sharing (if to an external drive, etc) through Win's firewall which is not enabled by default.

No, my issue arises from just a simple move of a file from one location to another on my C drive. For instance, moving an album from the default Amazon .mp3 folder to my organized music folder. Just basic shit that should not be a problem.

[biggestmexi]

i only get one confirmation when i move things between pc's, HDD's, and folders.


maybe I am going out on a limb here but by chance are you using a dogs ass as well?

[Chigworthy]

maybe I am going out on a limb here but by chance are you using a dogs ass as well?

My comprehension of this statement: 0%

[Cockstrong]

My comprehension of this statement: 0%

Does Vista get dragged across the carpet by a pair of dog's legs? If so, you might be using a dog's ass.

[KingGeno]

I think there is alot of user error being described in the original post. :) That's how I assume all computer probs are caused, cuz I never have these issues.

/pushes glasses up
//upgrade to win7, better more flexible UAC

[zentraed]

Is your music folder in your Program Files directory? Anytime you try to do file operations in a systems folder (Windows or Program Files), you'll trigger the UAC. There a few ways you should be able to avoid it.

The "best" way is to put your Music (and all other documents) folder in your Users path. If a folder in your Users path is triggering the UAC, then you need to adjust the file/folder permissions because something is set incorrectly.

The other thing that should work is running your file folders as administrator. I'm not on a Vista machine right now, but you should be able to create a shortcut to a file folder, right-click on it, and then tell it to Run As Administrator.

To make Vista more secure, MS adopted the unix/linux approach of defaulting to User-Level access.

[Chigworthy]

Ok, I'll give an example of when this problem happens. I recently downloaded an album from Amazon. The amazon downloader automatically created a folder in the "Music" folder in my user path, which is the only one and is the admin account. I have my music nicely organized in another folder within the same Music folder. I cannot drag and drop the album from the amazon folder to the organized folder without turning off UAC.

All three user groups that show up in the properties of the folder have permission to read and write. I could not find an option to run as admin, although I have read this before.

[KC2OSO]

Does Vista get dragged across the carpet by a pair of dog's legs? If so, you might be using a dog's ass. If the default os behavior is to force the admin to go into the control panel to change UAC settings to move a fucking file from one folder to another, the developers might have had their heads in a dog's ass.

[KnoxHarrington]

Here's the Microsoft tech support page on UAC in Vista:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922708

and here is the official list of what gives a UAC prompt:


You receive a UAC prompt when you do any of the following:

* Install or uninstall a program.
* Install a driver for a device. (For example, you install the driver for a digital camera.)
* Use the Windows Update console to install updates.
* Configure Parental Controls.
* Install an ActiveX control. (ActiveX controls are used to view certain Web pages.)
* Open or change the Windows Firewall control settings.
* Change a user account type.
* Modify your security settings with the Security Policy Editor (Secpol.msc) snap-in.
* Browse another user's directory.
* Configure Automatic Updates.
* Restore system files that were backed up.
* Schedule Automated Tasks.
* Copy or move files into the Program Files directory or the Windows directory.
* Add or remove a user account.
* Configure Remote Desktop access.

Now, what you did doesn't sound like any of that, so my guess is that UAC is fucked up. You probably want to consider reinstalling Windows.

[zentraed]

Ok, I'll give an example of when this problem happens. I recently downloaded an album from Amazon. The amazon downloader automatically created a folder in the "Music" folder in my user path, which is the only one and is the admin account. I have my music nicely organized in another folder within the same Music folder. I cannot drag and drop the album from the amazon folder to the organized folder without turning off UAC.

All three user groups that show up in the properties of the folder have permission to read and write. I could not find an option to run as admin, although I have read this before.

You should have both an Administrators Group and a user account (maybe named Administrator in your case) showing in your properties of the Music folder. Make sure they both have the Full Control option checked in the Music Properties>>Security>>Permissions section, then hit Apply.

Next click on the Advanced option. Verify that your Administrator user shows on the Owner tab. Then go back to the Permissions tab and click Edit. Highlight your Administrator User, check the box that says "Replace all existing inheritable permissions on all descendants with inheritable permissions from this object" and hit Apply. Exit out of all those dialogs and try to move a file again.

That should straighten out any mismatched permissions issues.

[Chigworthy]

You should have both an Administrators Group and a user account (maybe named Administrator in your case) showing in your properties of the Music folder. Make sure they both have the Full Control option checked in the Music Properties>>Security>>Permissions section, then hit Apply.

Next click on the Advanced option. Verify that your Administrator user shows on the Owner tab. Then go back to the Permissions tab and click Edit. Highlight your Administrator User, check the box that says "Replace all existing inheritable permissions on all descendants with inheritable permissions from this object" and hit Apply. Exit out of all those dialogs and try to move a file again.

That should straighten out any mismatched permissions issues.

Everything was already set that way. I guess I'm fucked.

[Chigworthy]

So on a whim, I went back and tried to move that folder. I was able to move it into my organized music folder. Once there, I needed to move it into the appropriate artist folder, and it asked for admin permission to do this, and denied me. I immediately tried it again, and it let me move the folder with no admin permission prompt. Now that the fucking thing is in the right place, I needed to rename it from Amazon's shitty naming system. It will not allow me to rename the folder now. I tried about 4 times before I gave up. Wow, does this tiny inconvenience really get on my tits!

[boosterp]

Well fuck, I wonder if it's some sort of DRM thing then?

[Chigworthy]

Well fuck, I wonder if it's some sort of DRM thing then?

I don't think so because it's not consistent. It's got all the hallmarks of a good old fashioned Willy Gates bung rape.

[KingGeno]

Post at Microsoft Technet Forums or Microsoft Forums. I think it is something permissions/shared related.

http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en/categories/ (http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en/categories/)

[Chigworthy]

Post at Microsoft Technet Forums or Microsoft Forums. I think it is something permissions/shared related.

http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en/categories/ (http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en/categories/)

That looks about as fun as a fantasy congress league.

[KingGeno]

That looks about as fun as a fantasy congress league.

Than this magical problem you have will not be answered on this radio show message board.

[Chigworthy]

Than this magical problem you have will not be answered on this radio show message board.

I've heard that you can just shut UAC off. Is this true?

[zentraed]

Everything was already set that way. I guess I'm fucked.

Did you do the "Replace all existing..." step? That's the one that rewrites the permissions for all the files.

What are you using to download the mp3s?

[Chigworthy]

Did you do the "Replace all existing..." step? That's the one that rewrites the permissions for all the files.

What are you using to download the mp3s?

The only option is "Include inheritable permissions from this object's parent", and it is checked for all groups. I can't uncheck it for any groups, as it is grayed out.

Amazon uses a proprietary downloader. Most of my downloads are from eMusic and done with their proprietary downloader. My CD ripping was all done with Zune. I can't remember the circumstances of these problems in the past (which files I was trying to modify or move), but I will pay more attention now to see if that helps.