2010-11 MLB Offseason Thread

[spoon]

So the Jays and Cito continue to prep for the 2011 season..... :furious:

They shut down Morrow due to an innings limit...makes sense. So how do you fill the spot in the rotation? Pitch a nobody on short rest who just got lit up for the 5 time in a row! So now they have brought up about 5 old utility guys and fail to get some young starters some valuable mound time (sounds nice!). To me this is a HUGE mistake, as every opp should be used to get kids like Ray, Drabek, Daly and others in the mix on the mound. Also, can we drop infield power guys in their 30s like MacDonald, McCoy and Hoffpair for young guys who need time like Emaus. WTF!?!?!



TORONTO -- Blue Jays left-hander Marc Rzepczynski is scheduled to pitch Wednesday night against the Rangers on three days' rest. It will be the first time in his career that he has started on short rest.

"When they shut Brandon [Morrow] down, we needed someone to fill in," Rzepczynski said. "I only threw 73 pitches [Saturday], and I'm nowhere near any mark that I should be, so they're just trying to get me out there as quick as I can so I can work on the stuff that I need to, instead of just throwing a bullpen every other day."

Rzepczynski allowed five runs in four innings in his no-decision Saturday against the Yankees. One of the things he has been working on is getting the ball out of his glove quicker during his delivery.

"I feel good, and I'm looking forward to getting back out there," he said. "For me, it's changing the routine, backing off some stuff, backing off the lifting a little bit. And my bullpen, I just threw less than normal.

"By the fourth day, you usually feel pretty good anyway. It's just a good opportunity to get out there one day earlier."

Rzepczynski is 1-3 with a 6.62 ERA in nine games with Toronto, seven of them starts. His best outing was a seven-inning two-hitter on Aug. 13 against the Angels.

[hanso]

soriano 2002 and 2003 hit 39 and 38 as full time 2b. actually this would be uggla's 4th year in a row if that's what you mean.

Yeah in a row.He will get it. He has been slumping. But shows some signs of the tear he was on.

[Kevin]

Welcome to what did espn or someone else tell Kevin in his jaded myopic Yankee Universe world.

Compiler my ass. He played only 2 more years than Mariano and has 45 more saves playing the bulk of his career in fucking SAN DIEGO. You know, that mlb power house out there suffering in Norv Turner country. Also, in 93/94 (the two more years he has over Mo) he only recorded 25 saves jumping bt teams. I think him not winning has a TON to do with the teams he's been on, and would surely had a different image if he sold out like CC (among so many others) and went to the team where douchebags go to claim titles that are lost in lesser markets. I give him credit for sticking it out and trying his best to do it somewhere else.

Fucking Kevin. :wallbash: If this were the SATs, Mo is a compiler too I guess right?



You can have him..

Knock yourself out..

I don't want him anywhere near my team sept on...

And come on.. 2 YEARS IS A BIG DIFFERENCE ITS LIKE 75-90 SAVES WORTH.

And its more 3. Mo was not closing until 07.

Truth bomb, my ass.

The two do not even belong in the same sentence.

[cougarjake13]

You can have him..

Knock yourself out..

I don't want him anywhere near my team sept on...

And come on.. 2 YEARS IS A BIG DIFFERENCE ITS LIKE 85-100 SAVES WORTH.

And its more 3. Mo was not closing until 07.

Truth bomb, my ass.

500 plus saves in 3 years is impressive .... automatic hall of famer

[Kevin]

500 plus saves in 3 years is impressive .... automatic hall of famer



Huh?

[cougarjake13]

Huh?

i know u meant 97 but u put 07


just busting balls

[Kevin]

And Mo has been closing in the AL East not the shitty NL West his career, so your better team crutch nonsense goes out the window.

Mo had a much tougher job.

[cougarjake13]

the real stat to check and i dont know it but is how many more than one inning saves mariano has, i know he has a bunch esp in the playoffs and thats proof of how much more valuable his saves were versus the competition

[Kevin]

i know u meant 97 but u put 07


just busting balls



Oh yea, my bad..

That would be impressive.

[cougarjake13]

And Mo has been closing in the AL East not the shitty NL West his career, so your better team crutch nonsense goes out the window.

Mo had a much tougher job.



not only that the yankees were in the playoffs every year of his career cept for 2008 usually making at least alcs most times so he has had more innings in his arm then hoffmann who if memory serves was in the playoffs only in 1996 1998 2005 2006 2008 losing in first round all times cept 98

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Twins Magic Number is now 20 while Jim Thome ties Frank Robinson on the home run list.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/thome-twins-620.jpg

Was listening to MLB on XM the other night and the discussion was "is Thome a 1st ballot HOF'er?"

I think he is. Many might say hes been a DH but thats only been for the past 4 seasons. He was never in the Steroid crowd. The one blemish he has is that he struck out over 2000 times but then again so did Reggie.

[Kevin]

not only that the yankees were in the playoffs every year of his career cept for 2008 usually making at least alcs most times so he has had more innings in his arm then hoffmann who if memory serves was in the playoffs only in 1996 1998 2005 2006 2008 losing in first round all times cept 98



Not to mention ALOT of those losses on him spitting the bit.

[Kevin]

Was listening to MLB on XM the other night and the discussion was "is Thome a 1st ballot HOF'er?"

I think he is. Many might say hes been a DH but thats only been for the past 4 seasons. He was never in the Steroid crowd. The one blemish he has is that he struck out over 2000 times but then again so did Reggie.



Thome is most def a 1st ballot hall of famer.

Consistant and not a word about him doing PEDs.

[spoon]

And Mo has been closing in the AL East not the shitty NL West his career, so your better team crutch nonsense goes out the window.

Mo had a much tougher job.

NO, he didn't have a tougher job getting SAVES in the AL East. He didn't have to play the yanks that's a HUGE factor.

Hoffman 600 saves on 648 chances versus Mo at 555 saves on 601 chances. Do the math assfuck. No chance the yanks had to close more 1 run games than the padres. Not to mention you play the whole AL and NL, just more in division.

If you honestly think that, you're dumber than I thought.

[Snoogans]

If mariano rivera played for the mets, he wouldnt even have 400 saves right now

[spoon]

You can have him..

Knock yourself out..

I don't want him anywhere near my team sept on...

And come on.. 2 YEARS IS A BIG DIFFERENCE ITS LIKE 75-90 SAVES WORTH.

And its more 3. Mo was not closing until 07.

Truth bomb, my ass.

The two do not even belong in the same sentence.

Read my above post again for this retarded comment. Hoffman didn't even have a save opp in 2003, only 5 in 1993 and 14 this year so I guess he should have had 112-135 saves for those three years instead of 19! Unreal Kev....

[Kevin]

NO, he didn't have a tougher job getting SAVES in the AL East. He didn't have to play the yanks that's a HUGE factor.

Hoffman 600 saves on 648 chances versus Mo at 555 saves on 601 chances. Do the math assfuck. No chance the yanks had to close more 1 run games than the padres. Not to mention you play the whole AL and NL, just more in division.

If you honestly think that, you're dumber than I thought.



Just like with Lebron, you are once again LOST.

What a reverse BDC you are on the Yankees.

[spoon]

http://www.fantasybaseballgeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mariano-rivera.jpg

COMPILER!

:lol:

[spoon]

Just like with Lebron, you are once again LOST.

What a reverse BDC you are on the Yankees.

Once again they are FUCKING FACTS right in front of your face, while you throw bullshit at me like the Lebron shit where you were wrong and it's the AL East. You lose again, he's no compiler. Yet if he is, so is Mo. Go read the stats again and then divide by the years played and find out avg opps too while you're at it. Tell me some more bullshit instead if you like too.

[spoon]

I'm beginning to think you are actually BDC. Everyone else sucks and their stats are garbage unless they play in a real league on the yankees. Swisher for prez and Gardner is awesome. Nunez, what a fielder! All going to the hall bc they play in the AL East!

[spoon]

Not to mention ALOT of those losses on him spitting the bit.

:unsure: Is this some translated Albanian phrase or something? WTF!?

[spoon]

not only that the yankees were in the playoffs every year of his career cept for 2008 usually making at least alcs most times so he has had more innings in his arm then hoffmann who if memory serves was in the playoffs only in 1996 1998 2005 2006 2008 losing in first round all times cept 98

Let's look at his AWFUL playoff stats too by the way.

Div Series Stats

3/4 years his ERA was ZERO
his overall ERA is 2.70

League Championship Series Stats

1 year (1998) and was 1-0 with a 2.08 ERA

World Series

1998 again, he played in ONE game (huge sample size compared to Mo) and pitched 2 innings (ur two inning save shot as he entered the 8th with men on base up 1 against a team from the AL EAST!) He made one bad pitch in his one outing coming in with men on base that resulted in a hr against a team with a TON of offense even compared to their WS team. So yes, he's awful bc of that one pitch.

[spoon]

nope, ur not unfairly judging him at all!

[hanso]

http://www.10pix.ru/img1/3335/2264868.jpg

[Kevin]

Let's look at his AWFUL playoff stats too by the way.

Div Series Stats

3/4 years his ERA was ZERO
his overall ERA is 2.70

League Championship Series Stats

1 year (1998) and was 1-0 with a 2.08 ERA

World Series

1998 again, he played in ONE game (huge sample size compared to Mo) and pitched 2 innings (ur two inning save shot as he entered the 8th with men on base up 1 against a team from the AL EAST!) He made one bad pitch in his one outing coming in with men on base that resulted in a hr against a team with a TON of offense even compared to their WS team. So yes, he's awful bc of that one pitch.



Please stop embaressing yourself with this debate.

Hoffman has 1 win 2 losses with a blown save in 12 playoff games with a 3.46 era not 2.70 ... Thats three games he fucked up in 12.

where
Mo has 5 blown saves in a hell of alot more chances..

With an era UNDER FUCKING ONE.

Just let go of the hatred..

Step back and let go.

[Kevin]

Yea his era gets blown up because of the WS.. But guess what..IT COUNTS.

Just a silly argument by an anger driven person..

[spoon]

Please stop embaressing yourself with this debate.

Hoffman has 1 win 2 losses with a blown save in 12 playoff games with a 3.46 era not 2.70 ... Thats three games he fucked up in 12.

where
Mo has 5 blown saves in a hell of alot more chances..

With an era UNDER FUCKING ONE.

Just let go of the hatred..

Step back and let go.

You have to be a fucking idiot, that much is clear. You said he's a compiler, I didn't say he's better than Mo. He has similar reg season stats in similar playing time, so I put that out there. You also said he's awful and one of the worst big game pitcher in history (and funny you included the most meaningless game of all the all-star game). So I then showed that's based pretty much on one game in the WS, one. So yea, his overall era and the team he played on factors in as well. Do you really think CC is even more than an afterthought with 9 wins and the same pitching stats otherwise in Cleveland? Hardly. Half the writers dismiss Felix right now bc of his record. So yah, this had nothing to do with the yankees until you brought it in to make pts as it's the only other way you can. He's NOT a compiler and NOT the even close to the worst big game pitcher ever. I feel like I'm arguing with a deaf, dumb blind kid... Can you play a mean pinball Kev? Do they have any metal left in Albania for the balls?

[spoon]

Yea his era gets blown up because of the WS.. But guess what..IT COUNTS.

Just a silly argument by an anger driven person..

And just stop with this bullshit approach? What does it even mean? I make points and you yell about yankees having a tougher road and they're better. You can't possibly have a angle here that makes sense with anger. I'm not remotely angry, you're just dumb.

[hanso]

Wouldn't it be harder to get saves on a lesser team? Not much run support to get a lead.

Then again look what the closer on KC is doing this season.

[Kevin]

And just stop with this bullshit approach? What does it even mean? I make points and you yell about yankees having a tougher road and they're better. You can't possibly have a angle here that makes sense with anger. I'm not remotely angry, you're just dumb.



I'm done debating with you on any Yankee issue..

You are just irrational.

[TheGameHHH]

I'm done debating with you on any Yankee issue..

You are just irrational.

some would call him myopic

[brettmojo]

Wouldn't it be harder to get saves on a lesser team? Not much run support to get a lead.

Then again look what the closer on KC is doing this season.
The theory I guess is a lesser team would have more close wins than blowouts go their way... So that means the closer would have more opportunities to close. Something like that. Lesser team usually doesn't have a great bullpen causing the closer to have to come in more or whatever.

[spoon]

No it's fucking simple, it comes down to opps and I posted stats showing similar opps and % converted to saves. Funny thing is myopic H, it had NOTHING to do with the yanks until Kev took it there bc it's all he bc he's lost in the weeds of homerism.

And if you look at what Soria is doing in KC, you'll see his stats are ahead of the pace in terms of conversions and more than ur beloved Mo since he has been brought into the picture so much. You know, the compiler. Kev runs away and calls out anger when he can't twist shit with false pretenses.

And yes Hanso, there are usually more close save opportunities of the total opps for lesser teams. I found the stat to back it on one of those crazy mojo stat sites but can't find it again. No one in their right mind would claim Hoffman was better than Mo, so just stop trying to make that the argument stupid stupid Kev. Oh wait, you took your ball and went home again. Never mind pussy.

[spoon]

The theory I guess is a lesser team would have more close wins than blowouts go their way... So that means the closer would have more opportunities to close. Something like that. Lesser team usually doesn't have a great bullpen causing the closer to have to come in more or whatever.

so the blowouts against them are just factored out then too i guess. myopic who?

[spoon]

I'm done debating with you on any Yankee issue..

You are just irrational.

IT ISN'T A YANKEE DEBATE YOU STUPID FUCK!

[spoon]

It was in fact a debate on your idiotic dismissal of Hoffman's stats calling him a compiler and one of the worst big game pitchers ever. It's all right up there re re ^ ^...go back and read.

:wallbash:

[TripleSkeet]

Guess what? Braves lost. :clap: Please continue.

[spoon]

Going to see Halladay hopefully pitch lights out against the kid in NY who they've been talking up for months. If all continues, he'll pitch 7.5 shutout innings with ~ 1bb, 8 k's and 0 runs. Seriously though, that is about the average of the game I caught when he ripped up the Jays in Philly (Jay's home game!) and about a month ago up here at Citifield.

I'll be the guy snagging foul balls in the first row just behind first base slightly into right field heckling Ike Davis the whole 9 innings.

[spoon]

Holy shit, can the rockies pull this off again? Man are they good finishers.

[TripleSkeet]

2 Games up. Man I love Phillies Autumn baseball.

[KingModem]

White Sox are done.

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ozzie-guillen-choke.jpg

Look out Yankees, Twins are making a run for Home Field.

[KnoxHarrington]

I think that the wild card, overall, has been a great addition to MLB, but there are years when it actually kind of drains away the drama. This year, in the AL, you know it's going to either the Yankees or the Rays, whoever doesn't win the AL East. So basically what would be a kick-ass stretch run (I'm not sure if they're playing again; I would assume they are) is a chase to decide who'll be either the #1 or #4 seed in the playoffs.

However, in the NL, the Wild Card race is gonna kick ass.

[Kevin]

I think that the wild card, overall, has been a great addition to MLB, but there are years when it actually kind of drains away the drama. This year, in the AL, you know it's going to either the Yankees or the Rays, whoever doesn't win the AL East. So basically what would be a kick-ass stretch run (I'm not sure if they're playing again; I would assume they are) is a chase to decide who'll be either the #1 or #4 seed in the playoffs.

However, in the NL, the Wild Card race is gonna kick ass.


4 games at Yankee next week.

[TripleSkeet]

2 1/2 games up with Halladay going tonight. Time to pull away and make that end of season series meaningless.

[spoon]

Halladay looking normal (very good after his normal iffy first inning) on the same night the guy he ultimately got traded for makes his MLB debut. So far Drabek's fastball is topping out at around 94 with good movement and the change he was "developing" in AA ball this year looks fucking sweet. 4 K's through 3 and 1 run charged to him so far. Pretty fucking similar to Roy's numbers tonight so far. Of course Halladay isn't giving any free passes like the two so far for Kyle.

[razorboy]

Sit the fuck down captain spray tan.

[spoon]

Sit the fuck down captain spray tan.

The tight pants kill the flow to his brain.

[JimBeam]

... you yell about yankees having a tougher road and they're better ...

I don't have the desire or strength this early in the morning to agree w/ Spoon on the stats are the stats truth but with regards to the Yankees having the tougher road I'd say that when Rivera was putting up his best numbers, when the Yankees were winning titles, the American League East could've been one of the worst divisions in baseball.

It wasn't until Boston got good again, in the mid-2000's or so and most recently with the Rays, that the AL East became a stronger, if not the strongest, division.

[underdog]

If A-Rod had pulled what Jeter did last night, the media coverage would have been completely different, right?

[Kevin]

If A-Rod had pulled what Jeter did last night, the media coverage would have been completely different, right?



I missed it, what did he do?

[underdog]

I missed it, what did he do?

He went to bunt, the ball bounced off the handle of the bat and Jeter pretended he got hit by the pitch. He even called out the trainer because he was "hurt".

[A.J.]

I couldn't believe Maddon didn't have a bigger meltdown.

[JimBeam]

Man it's all they talked about on the radio and ESPN this morning.

I think I've seen that replay 1,000 times now.

Listen I don't begrudge the guy for doing it but what I don't like is that the ump was wrong, and still in his Napoleanic complex, threw Maddon out of the game.

Now maybe he really though it hit Jeter, which makes more sense than any conspiracy, but for the fact now that we know he was wrong and therefore wrongfully threw a manager out of a game he should be penalized.

[underdog]

Man it's all they talked about on the radio and ESPN this morning.

I think I've seen that replay 1,000 times now.

Listen I don't begrudge the guy for doing it but what I don't like is that the ump was wrong, and still in his Napoleanic complex, threw Maddon out of the game.

Now maybe he really though it hit Jeter, which makes more sense than any conspiracy, but for the fact now that we know he was wrong and therefore wrongfully threw a manager out of a game he should be penalized.

Yeah, they talked about it a lot on ESPN today, and about how great Jeter was to do that and he's a gamer. But if A-Rod does the same thing, he's a cheat and it's bad for the game.

[Kevin]

Yeah, they talked about it a lot on ESPN today, and about how great Jeter was to do that and he's a gamer. But if A-Rod does the same thing, he's a cheat and it's bad for the game.



Bah, It happens.. People fake getting hit or making the catch or tag all the time.

Arod has proven to be a douche who does shady things..

Jeter has not, he gets slack..

[JimBeam]

Kevin, you have to see the video if you haven't.

He puts on a better acting job at that than he does at being straight.

[Snacks]

Yeah, they talked about it a lot on ESPN today, and about how great Jeter was to do that and he's a gamer. But if A-Rod does the same thing, he's a cheat and it's bad for the game.

I agree. I finally saw the replay on espn and they slowed it down and it wasnt even close. I dont begrudge the guy for taking his base because baseball is a sport of cheating always has been always will be (thats why I could give 2 shits about steroids because its not a pure sport)

The problem I have with it is the acting and standing around like a pussy and pretending he was hurt. The ump made the mistake now take you base and thats it. But to over play it, it was like he was trying to play it off later that he played hurt and add to his "legend" Instead he got caught because the cameras nowadays are everywhere.

ARod is no more of a douche then Jeter but because Jeter is a yankee lifer he gets a pass for everything. ARod should never have gone to the yanks because he will never win. He should have stayed in Seattle or gone somewhere where he would have been respected and not bashed for everything.

[spoon]

f'm both

[Kevin]

The way Jeter is fucking hitting this year, he needs all the help he can get...

[Snacks]

the funny thing that I have heard all day about the Jeter situation was "its baseball you do whatever you have to, to get on base or to won" and "its baseball, if your not cheating your not trying to win"

I agree with that but the funniest part is the same people saying that are the same people who were so against all the juicers. Isnt that what the steroid guys were doing? werent they doing anything to get on base? Anything to get a win? I say yes to that as well. Cheating is cheating but lets be honest every person who did steroids didnt think they were cheating they thought they were doing whatever it took to get better.

Fuck em all, I say do as much juice as possible. I like the long ball and I want more home runs!

[spoon]

I think there is a major difference bt a little gamesmanship and routinely injecting substances in your body. Jeter is a queer and all, but let's not put him on the same level of shit as guys like that.

[Snacks]

I think there is a major difference bt a little gamesmanship and routinely injecting substances in your body. Jeter is a queer and all, but let's not put him on the same level of shit as guys like that.

Im not saying the 2 things are the same. What I am saying is baseball has always been about cheating on every level. It amuses me that the same people that agree that baseball is about cheating are the same that bitched about steroids.

I dont care either way but I will always side with not caring about steroids. As Bob Gibson has said if steroids were around back then he would have taken them. I think most players have taken them even ones we havent heard about. I also think that many players in the past took speed and other steroid like drugs in the 50-70's.

[spoon]

dolphins suck too

[razorboy]

dolphins suck too

They're great swimmers.

[Snacks]

dolphins suck too

you have some balls when your lightning bolts lost to KC.

[spoon]

you have some balls when your lightning bolts lost to KC.

nah, bolts suck too (turner inflicted pain)

[spoon]

They're great swimmers.

i like to think they fly in water

[razorboy]

nah, bolts suck too

Stamkos is pretty decent.

[spoon]

Stamkos is pretty decent.

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[razorboy]

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Yeah, I'll say it. I have a Stammer man-crush.

[Kevin]

Stamkos is pretty decent.



(Wfan Yankee fan mode)

I will give you Wade Redden and maybe a 7th rd pick for him..

Deal?

[epo]

It looks like the Mets are trying to make the best of a bad situation....

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[Adolf]

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2696/cpavs.jpg

you're all faggots

[RingWraith]

It looks like the Mets are trying to make the best of a bad situation....

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HAHA! :thumbup:

[scottinnj]

It looks like the Mets are trying to make the best of a bad situation....

Fantastic! :clap:

[Kevin]

Torre being a classless douche again and commenting on a managerial spot that is currently taken.

He did it to Grady saying he is talking to the Dodgers, on Letterman' before Grady was fired.

Now The Mets job.

These two and the book, shows he has no class.

[TheGameHHH]

Torre being a classless douche again and commenting on a managerial spot that is currently taken.

He did it to Grady saying he is talking to the Dodgers, on Letterman' before Grady was fired.

Now The Mets job.

These two and the book, shows he has no class.

Really? He can't say anything about the Mets job? Why not? That team is a disgrace. Who cares? As long as we're at it, I'm also thinking about taking the Mets job next season but we'll see how it works out.

And also, did you even read the book? I did, and he said absolutely nothing wrong. Every quote the media went nuts with, when read in context, was absolutely acceptable. Do I think he really needed to write the book? No. But nothing he said in it was insane, and about 95% of it was very positive about the Yankees and his experience there.

[Kevin]

Really? He can't say anything about the Mets job? Why not? That team is a disgrace. Who cares? As long as we're at it, I'm also thinking about taking the Mets job next season but we'll see how it works out.

And also, did you even read the book? I did, and he said absolutely nothing wrong. Every quote the media went nuts with, when read in context, was absolutely acceptable. Do I think he really needed to write the book? No. But nothing he said in it was insane, and about 95% of it was very positive about the Yankees and his experience there.



While they have a manager, shut the fuck up.

That book should have not been written.

Inside shit you do not talk about.

Stop drinking the Torre Koolaid.

[KnoxHarrington]

While they have a manager, shut the fuck up.

That book should have not been written.

Inside shit you do not talk about.

Stop drinking the Torre Koolaid.

And the thing is everyone knows Manuel's a dead man walking for the Mets, so why even feel the need to discuss it? Wait a month or so and he can talk about it all he wants.

[Kevin]

And the thing is everyone knows Manuel's a dead man walking for the Mets, so why even feel the need to discuss it? Wait a month or so and he can talk about it all he wants.


Same thing with Little.

Wait til the man gets fired and then talk.

I guarentee he would have a prob if Girardi said he would love to have the Yankee job after the season 3yrs ago.

[Kevin]

He has ruined many arms and disrespects every unwritten rule in his profession just to put HIS ass in a better spot.

The man is the most overrated man in the history of sports.

Both professionaly and as a person.

Fuck him and his kool-aid drinking apologists.

Christ, rules had to be made here so he did not ruin other arms.

He was doing Broxton and others in LA.

Total disregard for anyone but himself, his wins,career and making money.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Christ, rules had to be made here so he did not ruin other arms.



that worked well

[KingModem]

Twins clinch the Central. Going to be tough to play tomorrow so early!:thumbup::clap:

[Kevin]

that worked well



Well yea it did not.

But they fucked him up in a totaly different way.

At least he is able to throw.

Unlike the Proctors, Quantrils, Sturtz and others who's career were done within 1 or 2 yrs of Torre abusing them.

Still does not change anything on Torre.

You watch, you will hear Broxton having major arm issues pretty soon.

He let him go over 50 pitches vs The Yanks this year just because he wanted to beat the Yankees for himself.

[Kevin]

Twins clinch the Central. Going to be tough to play tomorrow so early!:thumbup::clap:



Twins are pretty damn good and Thome has been a great pick up.

[spoon]

While they have a manager, shut the fuck up.

That book should have not been written.

Inside shit you do not talk about.

Stop drinking the Torre Koolaid.

Says the guy who listened to local radio to get his opinion on the book versus the guy who actually READ THE FUCKING BOOK.

You act as if George NEVER messed with other managers or didn't like their every move. The only difference here is Torre actually put a few WS titles together.

[Kevin]

Says the guy who listened to local radio to get his opinion on the book versus the guy who actually READ THE FUCKING BOOK.

You act as if George NEVER messed with other managers or didn't like their every move. The only difference here is Torre actually put a few WS titles together.



Color me SHOCKED that you have this opinion..

SHOCKED!

You don't agree with it, so let me guess, my opinion is gay?

And who the fuck even said anything about George?

Even if someone acts shitty to someone else, that means you should do the same?

[TripleSkeet]

Color me SHOCKED that you have this opinion..

SHOCKED!

You don't agree with it, so let me guess, my opinion is gay?

And who the fuck even said anything about George?

Even if someone acts shitty to someone else, that means you should do the same?

I gotta agree you cant criticize someone for their book when you havent read it. Thats crazy bible thumper hayseed talk right there.

Also, I dont get this whole "you cant tell people what goes on in the locker room" bullshit. Where the fuck is that rule written? These guys should be able to say whatever they fucking want about their experiences in baseball. I personally love hearing it. Who gives a fuck if people criticize you for it.

Some of my favorite locker room stories are from the 93 Phillies where they talked about the guys drinking and smoking all night after games while talking baseball. Kruk playing 93 innings of wiffleball with the ball boy til 4am. The team locking the room so they wouldnt be able to go back in and drink, and Hollins and Daulton taking the fire axe and chopping down the door. Thats the kind of shit people love to hear.

[TheGameHHH]

I gotta agree you cant criticize someone for their book when you havent read it. Thats crazy bible thumper hayseed talk right there.

Also, I dont get this whole "you cant tell people what goes on in the locker room" bullshit. Where the fuck is that rule written? These guys should be able to say whatever they fucking want about their experiences in baseball. I personally love hearing it. Who gives a fuck if people criticize you for it.

Some of my favorite locker room stories are from the 93 Phillies where they talked about the guys drinking and smoking all night after games while talking baseball. Kruk playing 93 innings of wiffleball with the ball boy til 4am. The team locking the room so they wouldnt be able to go back in and drink, and Hollins and Daulton taking the fire axe and chopping down the door. Thats the kind of shit people love to hear.

And I've heard some amazing '86 Mets stories too, I always love hearing them. Yet according to Kevin that's disrespect.

[spoon]

Reading Bad!!!!

Kevin No Happy!!!

[Jujubees2]

Wow, the Rays are turning on their own fans (what few of them they have)...

Rays shocked no one wanted to see them play the Orioles (http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/rays-shocked-no-one-wanted-to-see-them-play-the-orioles.php)

[A.J.]

Wow, the Rays are turning on their own fans (what few of them they have)...

Rays shocked no one wanted to see them play the Orioles (http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/rays-shocked-no-one-wanted-to-see-them-play-the-orioles.php)

That "ballpark" is a dump and their "fans" are lame. Fuck them and their stupid cowbells.

[Jujubees2]

That "ballpark" is a dump and their "fans" are lame. Fuck them and their stupid cowbells.

I agree. Only 12,00 show up when they could clinch the AL East? And how much is that overall attendance average boosted by the large crowd of Yankee and Red Sox fans they get when New York and Boston come to town?

[sailor]

That "ballpark" is a dump and their "fans" are lame. Fuck them and their stupid cowbells.

Fez was right.

[TripleSkeet]

That "ballpark" is a dump and their "fans" are lame. Fuck them and their stupid cowbells.

They really believe a new ballpark will bring the fans out. They couldnt even draw for the World Series. They should be the poster boys for team contraction in baseball.

[KnoxHarrington]

Busy night tonight: the Rays get in first, beating the Orioles, then soon after that the Yankees lock up a playoff spot when they beat the Blue Jays, and we wrap up the night with the Reds clinching the NL Central on a walk-off home run by Jay Bruce.

I don't think I've ever seen 3 playoff slots filled on the same night. This is pretty cool.

By the way, the Reds drew just over 30K fans tonight. The Rays drew slightly better after several players ripped fans for not showing up, but only drew just under 18K. The Yankees clinched on the road.

So right now, the AL playoff picture is settled, except to decide how the Yankees and Rays go into the playoffs, as the AL East champ (drawing the Rangers in the first round), or the Wild Card (drawing the Twins). The NL picture isn't settled: the Phillies have the NL East and home-field advantage, the Reds have the Central, but the West is up for grabs, with the Giants holding a 1 game advantage over the Padres, and the Wild Card isn't settled, with the Braves one game up on the Padres at this point.

Home field advantage in the AL will probably go to the AL East champion, though it's possible the Twins could pass up both the Yankees and Rays; they have 92 wins, the Yankees and Rays both have 94.

And let's hear it for the Pirates, guaranteed to have the worst record in the MLB, currently at 56-101. Way to go boys!

[cougarjake13]

Wow, the Rays are turning on their own fans (what few of them they have)...

Rays shocked no one wanted to see them play the Orioles (http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/rays-shocked-no-one-wanted-to-see-them-play-the-orioles.php)



That "ballpark" is a dump and their "fans" are lame. Fuck them and their stupid cowbells.


ballpark isnt all that bad but not great either .. i fucking loathe those cowbells but not as much as the fucking wannabe vuvuzelas

I agree. Only 12,00 show up when they could clinch the AL East? And how much is that overall attendance average boosted by the large crowd of Yankee and Red Sox fans they get when New York and Boston come to town?


they get near sellouts every time yanks or sawx come here but they do pretty decent on the weekends ... problem is no one goes to the work week games



and its definitely the location of the stadium thats a problem

its in pinellas county which is primarily full of retirees who dont care nor have the disposable income for baseball... plus theyre all from somewhere else for the most part and arent fans of the rays

if they moved it to the actual city of tampa either near where the bucs play or best place i think would be on 1-4 near the hard rock hotel and casino cause you'd have a more younger demographic, families and college kids plus you could draw more people from neighboring counties and prob even orlando area as it wouldnt be that long a drive for them whereas now it'd take em 2 hours to get where trop is now

[TripleSkeet]

its in pinellas county which is primarily full of retirees who dont care nor have the disposable income for baseball... plus theyre all from somewhere else for the most part and arent fans of the rays


You just described most of the state of Florida.

[KnoxHarrington]

Nice to see the Braves sending Bobby Cox off to retirement by choking away the NL Wild Card.

OK, they can still get it if they win tomorrow and the Padres lose, sure, but they looked to have that shit locked up a week ago.

The only good thing about the Braves run of NL East championships is you knew which opening round playoff series you could easily skip.

[KnoxHarrington]

So here's how the NL season could end:

1. If the Giants and Braves both win, the Giants take the NL West, and the Braves take the Wild Card.

2. If the Giants win and the Braves lose, the Giants take the NL West and the Braves and Padres will play tomorrow to determine the Wild Card.

3. Here's the fun one: fi the Padres and Braves both win, tomorrow the Padres and Giants play for the NL West. Then the loser of that game goes to Atlanta Tuesday to play the Braves for the Wild Card.

This could be fun.

[cougarjake13]

So here's how the NL season could end:

1. If the Giants and Braves both win, the Giants take the NL West, and the Braves take the Wild Card.

2. If the Giants win and the Braves lose, the Giants take the NL West and the Braves and Padres will play tomorrow to determine the Wild Card.

3. Here's the fun one: fi the Padres and Braves both win, tomorrow the Padres and Giants play for the NL West. Then the loser of that game goes to Atlanta Tuesday to play the Braves for the Wild Card.

This could be fun.



i would love to see scenario three


although sadly it'll prove to selig that he needs to add more wild cards as has been rumored

[cougarjake13]

You just described most of the state of Florida.



definitely true but not all of florida is close enough to go to rays or marlins games so i was just focusing on the area where fans could go to the game





thing is theyre still only 13 years old as a franchise and with the recent sucess there a tons of young kids who are rays fans unlike theyre parents but in todays world of instant gratification i dont know if the rays will be around long enough for these kids to grow up and have kids making them rays fans as well

[KingModem]

And the weather watch of Minneapolis, MN begins. Yankees @ Twins, 7:37pm Wednesday, game time temperature expected to be about 66 at start, and 57 by the finish. Same thing expected for Thursday.

[Earlshog]

And the weather watch of Minneapolis, MN begins. Yankees @ Twins, 7:37pm Wednesday, game time temperature expected to be about 66 at start, and 57 by the finish. Same thing expected for Thursday.

Thats warmer then it has been here in NYC the past three days...

[spoon]

i would love to see scenario three


although sadly it'll prove to selig that he needs to add more wild cards as has been rumored

Good. I want the league to change as much as possible in any way to make it harder for one team to walk into the playoffs.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Picks for AL and NL DS

Yankees in 5 over Twins

Rangers in 4 over Rays

Giants in 4 over Braves

Phillies in 3 over Reds



please note that I really want the Reds & Twins to win , but I just dont see it happening

[Earlshog]

Picks for AL and NL DS

Yankees in 5 over Twins

Rangers in 4 over Rays

Giants in 4 over Braves

Phillies in 3 over Reds



please note that I really want the Reds & Twins to win , but I just dont see it happening

:wallbash:

[A.J.]

:wallbash:

Yeah, he picked my Sox last year.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

:wallbash:

note I want the Reds to Win... usually the teams I want to win lose... I picked the Phillies purely from my .net super expert point of view

[Earlshog]

note I want the Reds to Win... usually the teams I want to win lose... I picked the Phillies purely from my .net super expert point of view

I need Snoogans to weigh in here.... he is the most knowledgeable student of the Hippo jinx.

Snoogans don't sugarcoat it for me, how much trouble are the Phillies now in?

[TripleSkeet]

I need Snoogans to weigh in here.... he is the most knowledgeable student of the Hippo jinx.

Snoogans don't sugarcoat it for me, how much trouble are the Phillies now in?

Not much. For 1, they were his 4th pick, he was just picking to pick, that doesnt have the same effect as his usual jinx. I would say if anything, the Phillies win in 4 just to prove him wrong anyway.

[TheGameHHH]

Is it possible for Cliff Lee to start all 5 games?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Just in case people miss it...

http://images.zap2it.com/images/tv-EP00018042/frank-tv-8.jpg

[spoon]

Is it possible for Cliff Lee to start all 5 games?

Tex has Wilson pitching tomorrow and he's pretty damn good. He's struggled of late but pitching against Shields with the Tex arsenal behind him should make for a huge advantage.

When they return home they'll have Lewis and his good era/K stats up against a pretty solid Garza, especially in his short playoff history. Lewis simply hasn't got much run support or the team has found ways to lose his games behind a good AL era of 3.72 resulting in an odd 12-13 record. This is a pretty even matchup here, but being Tex is at home and may have the chance to end the series, I give them the slight edge.

Game #4, if needed, Hunter strategically pitches at home with his 7-0 record at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington. After an August swoon probably due to his biggest workload of his career, Hunter came back strong in September. He's surely the favorite matched up against Wade Davis at home.

So no, it's not even needed much less possible.

[disneyspy]

petitte looked alittle peturbed at that shot

[spoon]

petitte looked alittle peturbed at that shot

what are you talking about, Petite LOVES shots!

just ask his pal Roger

[KnoxHarrington]

Way to show up for the playoffs, Rays.

Is there any need to even bring this back to Texas to wrap it up? Just put on a concert for the people who bought playoff tickets or something.

With all the talk of the Rays slashing payroll this offseason, they probably won't get another chance anyway.

[spoon]

Way to show up for the playoffs, Rays.

Is there any need to even bring this back to Texas to wrap it up? Just put on a concert for the people who bought playoff tickets or something.

With all the talk of the Rays slashing payroll this offseason, they probably won't get another chance anyway.

Yep, but they at least have a shot in game 3! The ALCS was a no brainer in my mind. The only good series in my mind with be the SF/At one. We'll see if I'm right but so far we are at 2-0 in one series already and another close. I expect Roy O to shut down the top NL offense again tomorrow.

[underdog]

Way to show up for the playoffs, Rays.

Is there any need to even bring this back to Texas to wrap it up? Just put on a concert for the people who bought playoff tickets or something.

With all the talk of the Rays slashing payroll this offseason, they probably won't get another chance anyway.

Can you really count a team out in a 5 game series?

[spoon]

Can you really count a team out in a 5 game series?

I did before game 1 for 3 teams so yah I think so.

[underdog]

Lincecum is killing it tonight. Too bad for him that Halladay exists.

[underdog]

I did before game 1 for 3 teams so yah I think so.

What kind of world do we live in that the Rangers are good?

[Jayw]

Man I can't watch Lincecum without constantly thinking of that kid from dazed and confused. The freshman. After further research I guess this is old news hah.

http://intershame.com/img/weblog/tim_lincecum_mitch_kramer.PNG


Rooting for braves for sure. As long as the Reds get beat down I'll be happy though.

[spoon]

Lincecum is killing it tonight. Too bad for him that Halladay exists.

They'll both have 2 Cy Young Awards soon but the ring is the main prize needed on both resumes.

[KnoxHarrington]

Can you really count a team out in a 5 game series?

I guess it's much easier to come back from 0-2 than 0-3, but the Rays have just looked like total fucking bums in these 2 games. They look done.

[Justice4all]

They'll both have 2 Cy Young Awards soon but the ring is the main prize needed on both resumes.

Agreed but you have to admit that with that pitching duel you would love to see both of them head to head for the NL pennant.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

I need Snoogans to weigh in here.... he is the most knowledgeable student of the Hippo jinx.

Snoogans don't sugarcoat it for me, how much trouble are the Phillies now in?


hmmm a no hitter and I seem to be spot on with the playoffs... the playoff picks were no LOX.. these were .net super expert picks and analysis


all 4 of my teams I picked will advance MARK MY WORD!!!!!!!!!

[Barnaby Jones]

I guess it's much easier to come back from 0-2 than 0-3, but the Rays have just looked like total fucking bums in these 2 games. They look done.

I think it's something ridiculous like around 70% of the teams that win the 1st game in the 1st round end up winning it, and if they go 2-0 then it shoots up to around 85%!

[cougarjake13]

its nuts i bet selig changes it to a 7 game series

[disneyspy]

there goes the no hitter

[underdog]

Nice catch, dick.

Chase Utley got hit by a 101mph fastball. Ouch.

[Jayw]

Hah I hope Lidge has learned from his Astro post season fail. Pujois tramatized him. As much as I want him to blow it got to root against the reds sigh.

[Jayw]

Bad start...

[TripleSkeet]

Hah I hope Lidge has learned from his Astro post season fail. Pujois tramatized him. As much as I want him to blow it got to root against the reds sigh.

Um....I think he got over that in 2008.

[spoon]

I simply can't get over how bad the umps have been regardless of who I'm rooting for. I've really never seen such crappy calls in my lifetime of watching MLB. I guess it's just another thing Selig helped destroy in baseball bc it's awful of late.

[Jayw]

Um....I think he got over that in 2008.


Oh ya forgot about that little detail.

[Snacks]

There are 2 major problems I have with MLB and their post season.

1. I dont care if teams are in the same division or not. The #1 seed should always play the lowest seed. The Rays should have played the Yanks. No other sport cares of you play in the same division or not. If you are the wild card you play the best team in the conference.


2. How can MLB justify only putting the Yanks on TV at night? The Rays have played 3 games and all 3 games were afternoon games. There 2 home games were both at 1pm. I understand that the Yankees are the most hated and most liked team but how about some equality. The team that wins the toughest division in baseball gets no respect but the wild card team gets night games? Maybe if the MLB would actually stop over promotion the yanks and giving some other teams the same kind of treatment, maybe just maybe you will see more fan support for these teams. MLB is not helping their product or other teams by ignoring everyone but the Yanks!

[JimBeam]

I simply can't get over how bad the umps have been regardless of who I'm rooting for. I've really never seen such crappy calls in my lifetime of watching MLB. I guess it's just another thing Selig helped destroy in baseball bc it's awful of late.

The thing that's been pissing me off is how these asshole umpires are getting the calls wrong and then ejecting the managers after they argue.

How about having a longer fuse since it's the playoffs and all.

I didn't see how quickly Cox got run the other day after arguing the call at 1st but I doubt he was allowed to go on for a while.

There really has to be some punishment for the umps when they get calls wrong.

Obvioulsy you can't do anything during the game but when it's reviewed afterwards there should be some discipline.

The same asshole screwed the Braves twice.

He shouldn't be allowed to work the postseason ever again starting now.

[underdog]

There are 2 major problems I have with MLB and their post season.

1. I dont care if teams are in the same division or not. The #1 seed should always play the lowest seed. The Rays should have played the Yanks. No other sport cares of you play in the same division or not. If you are the wild card you play the best team in the conference.


2. How can MLB justify only putting the Yanks on TV at night? The Rays have played 3 games and all 3 games were afternoon games. There 2 home games were both at 1pm. I understand that the Yankees are the most hated and most liked team but how about some equality. The team that wins the toughest division in baseball gets no respect but the wild card team gets night games? Maybe if the MLB would actually stop over promotion the yanks and giving some other teams the same kind of treatment, maybe just maybe you will see more fan support for these teams. MLB is not helping their product or other teams by ignoring everyone but the Yanks!

No one shows up to Rays games, and you think they should get the primetime spot over the Yankees?

[cougarjake13]

There are 2 major problems I have with MLB and their post season.

1. I dont care if teams are in the same division or not. The #1 seed should always play the lowest seed. The Rays should have played the Yanks. No other sport cares of you play in the same division or not. If you are the wild card you play the best team in the conference.




because selig didnt want red sox yankees to happen until the alcs

[Snacks]

No one shows up to Rays games, and you think they should get the primetime spot over the Yankees?

they sold out both home games as well as in Texas. Yes the Rays have earned at least 1 prime time game. They won the division they won the season series against the yanks. They also should have played the yanks in the 1st round. Rays are 1 seed Yanks are the 4 seed every other league goes by seeding except baseball. This is a rule because of the Yanks. They knew for the most part the Yanks or Sox would be the wild car with the other winning the division. They would rather those 2 teams meet up in the ALCS rather then the Divisional round.

Baseball better do something soon to create league wide parody. Every other league has it and are growing their fan base. Baseball doesnt and the league continues to suffer. The old saying that its good for Baseball to have the Yanks in it. Thats true but it would do much better if 20+ other teams had a shot every year. They dont so the league suffers everywhere expect in NY, Boston, and LA. There needs to be a salary cap!

[Snacks]

because selig didnt want red sox yankees to happen until the alcs

exactly and thats not good for the sport or the entire league its only good for the Yanks and sox.

[spoon]

No one shows up to Rays games, and you think they should get the primetime spot over the Yankees?

so that means no games on tv in TB when playing the yanks in if they make the ALCS? It's all based on attendance, not the fact they won the fucking division OVER the yankees? And you don't think lack of a long history and now adding exposure even when they earn it and are winning is the right thing to do? I don't see how that makes any sense at all except in the back ass world of MLB. I didn't think a league could help make their own problem more. They are in essence making one team more and more important to it's bottom line while putting off most of the others. I'm actually rooting for mlb to fail and lose tons of money and fans. They fucking deserve it.

[underdog]

so that means no games on tv in TB when playing the yanks in if they make the ALCS? It's all based on attendance, not the fact they won the fucking division OVER the yankees? And you don't think lack of a long history and now adding exposure even when they earn it and are winning is the right thing to do? I don't see how that makes any sense at all except in the back ass world of MLB. I didn't think a league could help make their own problem more. They are in essence making one team more and more important to it's bottom line while putting off most of the others. I'm actually rooting for mlb to fail and lose tons of money and fans. They fucking deserve it.

More people will watch the Yankees over the Rays.

Whether or not you think they should is another matter.

Why would the MLB give up money because a couple people think the Rays "deserve" it?

[spoon]

I argue that over time, over the last 10 or so years, they have ultimately lost millions (whether they are in the black or not) bc teams like TB and so many have fan bases that simply don't care, especially in constant losing markets. So yes, just put up the yankees all day, all year, all the time. Oof. Great plan. I can't wait not to watch the ALCS already. Zzzzzzzzzzz.

[underdog]

I argue that over time, over the last 10 or so years, they have ultimately lost millions (whether they are in the black or not) bc teams like TB and so many have fan bases that simply don't care, especially in constant losing markets. So yes, just put up the yankees all day, all year, all the time. Oof. Great plan. I can't wait not to watch the ALCS already. Zzzzzzzzzzz.

I don't really disagree with you, just trying to explain why the MLB is doing what they're doing. The MLB (and the NHL) have really bad long term sight and just do things that benefit themselves in the short term.

[foodcourtdruide]

they sold out both home games as well as in Texas. Yes the Rays have earned at least 1 prime time game. They won the division they won the season series against the yanks. They also should have played the yanks in the 1st round. Rays are 1 seed Yanks are the 4 seed every other league goes by seeding except baseball. This is a rule because of the Yanks. They knew for the most part the Yanks or Sox would be the wild car with the other winning the division. They would rather those 2 teams meet up in the ALCS rather then the Divisional round.

Baseball better do something soon to create league wide parody. Every other league has it and are growing their fan base. Baseball doesnt and the league continues to suffer. The old saying that its good for Baseball to have the Yanks in it. Thats true but it would do much better if 20+ other teams had a shot every year. They dont so the league suffers everywhere expect in NY, Boston, and LA. There needs to be a salary cap!

I don't think there needs to be a salary cap, but I think the compensation for free agent signings should be revamped. They should add a third tier (to type A, B free agents) free agent for elite players.

[TripleSkeet]

Our Number 3 pitcher just pitched a complete game shutout against the best hitting team in baseball. Its official. No team in baseball even concerns me a little bit. Bring on whoever the fuck is next.

[brettmojo]

Our Number 3 pitcher just pitched a complete game shutout against the best hitting team in baseball. Its official. No team in baseball even concerns me a little bit. Bring on whoever the fuck is next.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee103/brettmojo/2vi15x0jpg.gif

[spoon]

Our Number 3 pitcher just pitched a complete game shutout against the best hitting team in baseball. Its official. No team in baseball even concerns me a little bit. Bring on whoever the fuck is next.

settle down buddy

SF will be MUCH tougher bc they have what you call...PITCHING as well

And yah, I hope the Phils don't have ur take with the likes of SF or any remaining AL team. Not good.

[Earlshog]

settle down buddy

SF will be MUCH tougher bc they have what you call...PITCHING as well

And yah, I hope the Phils don't have ur take with the likes of SF or any remaining AL team. Not good.

I agree. Everyone who is left presents particiular match up problems. This series with San Fransico has the potential to be an all time classic. I wanted Atlanta ( for obvious reasons ) but to be the man ya gotta beat the man...

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Picks for AL and NL DS

Yankees in 5 over Twins

Rangers in 4 over Rays

Giants in 4 over Braves

Phillies in 3 over Reds



please note that I really want the Reds & Twins to win , but I just dont see it happening


Please Note I was not only correct with the NL Picks.. I picked the F'n amount of games.....


Side Note:

Rays will Win... I LOX'd it up and went against my .net expert pick

[spoon]

alright, i'm already sick of this gimmick

just talk

[TripleSkeet]

Hahahahahahahaha

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[NickyL0885]

Rays will Win... I LOX'd it up

He strikes, yet again.

[spoon]

He strikes, yet again.

I'm convinced he's just picking out of a hat. This thing has surely run it's course.

[spoon]

Hahahahahahahaha

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Yah that was put in here a while back. It's pretty much how they hire I believe anyway, so they should use this add for real.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

alright, i'm already sick of this gimmick

just talk


I get a boner when you get angry........

[Earlshog]

I get a boner when you get angry........

Quoted for hotness

[Barnaby Jones]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! WEST COAST IS THE BEST COAST!!!!!!!

WS, baby!!!!!!!!!!!

:clap::clap::clap:

[spoon]

Both coasts are better than goat town.

[OGC]

well at least we won't have to hear that stupid Mummer's strut song again for another year

[spoon]

well at least we won't have to hear that stupid Mummer's strut song again for another year

Or fucking blowhard actually believing he knows anything about sports outside of being a HUGE fucking homer. Good call! Yanks Phils rematch it is!! :lol:

[TheGameHHH]

this is a world series i really wanna watch. thank you fox and cablevision for not making that possible

[spoon]

this is a world series i really wanna watch. thank you fox and cablevision for not making that possible

atdhe.net dummy

[TripleSkeet]

The Phillies really dissapointed me this year. They gave that series away. Unlike last year, none of them should come out holding their fucking heads up high. They should be embarrassed because they lost to an inferior team because of stupid mistakes and lack of aggressiveness.

I hope Texas blows them out by 10 every game.

[spoon]

The Phillies really dissapointed me this year. They gave that series away. Unlike last year, none of them should come out holding their fucking heads up high. They should be embarrassed because they lost to an inferior team because of stupid mistakes and lack of aggressiveness.

I hope Texas blows them out by 10 every game.

The good news was nobody worried you at all.

[foodcourtdruide]

The good news was nobody worried you at all.

I thought the Phillies would roll past the Giants too. The Giants bullpen and Cody Ross were great though. This is why when anyone asks me who I think will win a series I always say, "anything can happen". It usually just takes one or two guys getting hot.

[spoon]

I thought the Phillies would roll past the Giants too. The Giants bullpen and Cody Ross were great though. This is why when anyone asks me who I think will win a series I always say, "anything can happen". It usually just takes one or two guys getting hot.

I just found it absurd that while in said playoffs against teams with very solid pitching one would ever say they aren't worried at all. Talk about kiss of death.

[foodcourtdruide]

I just found it absurd that while in said playoffs against teams with very solid pitching one would ever say they aren't worried at all. Talk about kiss of death.

True. My brother-in-law is a huge Yankees fan and after the ALDS he was already comparing his team to the Phillies. I was like, "um. you understand the Rangers just beat the team that was better than you in the regular season, right?" Winning 3 games on the road, no-less.

[TripleSkeet]

I just found it absurd that while in said playoffs against teams with very solid pitching one would ever say they aren't worried at all. Talk about kiss of death.

Why should I have been worried? They didnt kick the shit out of the Phillies. The Phillies beat themselves. Boneheaded errors, poor base running, constantly leaving men on base, not taking advantage of base stealing oppurtunities.... the list goes on. I still dont understand why Cody Ross wasnt either beaned or intentionally walked for just about every at bat he had after Game 2.

The better team didnt win this series....the hungrier one did.

[A.J.]

The Giants haven't won a World Series since 1954. They lost heartbreakers in 1962, 1989 and 2002. I wouldn't mind seeing them end that streak: especially with scumbag Barry Bonds watching from the stands.

Then again, the Rangers have never been. This should be a fun series to watch.

[spoon]

No, the better team in the series won which is how the playoffs work. These teams were separated by what, 5 games after 162. Yah, why worry about a team with that pitching as well right? Of course they didn't "beat the shit" out of Philly, but nobody said anything like that. You basically said the opposite and it was what most expected, a tight fought series won by pitching and SF was better. By the way, errors and base running actually helped Philly more with 2 unearned runs and 7 stolen bases versus only 1 for SF in both categories ... not sure how they're the factors you make them out to be. They also both left ~ 80 men on base, nothing major in the difference there over 6 games, SF simply won the little battles in those close games in the late innings. Their pen was solid, the Phil's pen wasn't. It was their weakness and it was exposed. Simple as that.

[TripleSkeet]

No, the better team in the series won which is how the playoffs work. These teams were separated by what, 5 games after 162. Yah, why worry about a team with that pitching as well right? Of course they didn't "beat the shit" out of Philly, but nobody said anything like that. You basically said the opposite and it was what most expected, a tight fought series won by pitching and SF was better. By the way, errors and base running actually helped Philly more with 2 unearned runs and 7 stolen bases versus only 1 for SF in both categories ... not sure how they're the factors you make them out to be. They also both left ~ 80 men on base, nothing major in the difference there over 6 games, SF simply won the little battles in those close games in the late innings. Their pen was solid, the Phil's pen wasn't. It was their weakness and it was exposed. Simple as that.

No.

[spoon]

yes

[joeyballsack]

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[TripleSkeet]

I still cant believe we lost to that assclown.. He looks like CM Punk.

[OGC]

No.

yes


can't we all just get along ??? :down:

[KnoxHarrington]

Fucking love The Onion:

A-Rod Finally Leads Rangers To World Series

ARLINGTON, TX—Ten years after signing a record $252 million contract to play baseball in Texas, third baseman Alex Rodriguez finally delivered for the Rangers by leading the franchise to its first-ever World Series. "A-Rod came up big for us this entire series, all the way up until the last out," Rangers manager Ron Washington told reporters during a postgame press conference, saying that the Rangers would have had no chance of beating the New York Yankees without Rodriguez's remarkable performance at the plate. "It was a long time coming, but you have to give the guy credit. He was the Rangers' MVP, no question." Washington added that seeing Rodriguez take Texas to the World Series was one thing, but A-Rod almost single-handedly beating the Yankees was "extra sweet."

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



http://www.theonion.com/articles/arod-finally-leads-rangers-to-world-series,18320/

[spoon]

Fucking love The Onion:


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



http://www.theonion.com/articles/arod-finally-leads-rangers-to-world-series,18320/

nice

[Justice4all]

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OK that was comical and insane in the same segment.

[A.J.]

Fucking love The Onion:


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:



http://www.theonion.com/articles/arod-finally-leads-rangers-to-world-series,18320/

Awesome. And it proves that ARod was right: that contract was never about the money!

[Barnaby Jones]

Who is The Machine??!?!?!?!

http://deadspin.com/5674739/what-we-have-learned-about-brian-wilson-and-the-machine

[TheGameHHH]

atdhe.net dummy

thanks for this

[weekapaugjz]

wow. what a horrendous inning for the rangers.

[RingWraith]

Gotta luv baseball, and sports in general. Cliff Lee, who the Yanks can never beat. All of a sudden gets knocked out in the 5th inning. Amazing.

[weekapaugjz]

Gotta luv baseball, and sports in general. Cliff Lee, who the Yanks can never beat. All of a sudden gets knocked out in the 5th inning. Amazing.

every preview of the world series i saw said that if teams like the yankees and rays can't get past the rangers pitching how will the giants? lulz to that. most people on espn/vs./foxsports/etc. are full of complete shit. i think a monkey could make as accurate picks as most of these dolts.

[RingWraith]

every preview of the world series i saw said that if teams like the yankees and rays can't get past the rangers pitching how will the giants? lulz to that. most people on espn/vs./foxsports/etc. are full of complete shit. i think a monkey could make as accurate picks as most of these dolts.

hah! Totally agree.

[TheGameHHH]

Gotta luv baseball, and sports in general. Cliff Lee, who the Yanks can never beat. All of a sudden gets knocked out in the 5th inning. Amazing.

As the brilliant John Sterling likes to say, you just can't figure baseball

[TripleSkeet]

Who is The Machine??!?!?!?!

http://deadspin.com/5674739/what-we-have-learned-about-brian-wilson-and-the-machine

Its Pat Burrell.

[foodcourtdruide]

As the brilliant John Sterling likes to say, you just can't figure baseball

I've never seen the words "Brilliant" and "John Sterling" in the same sentence.

[Barnaby Jones]

Its Pat Burrell.

I'm afraid to ask how you could figure that out from the video!

[PigShitIrish]

I'm afraid to ask how you could figure that out from the video!

That's because somebody caught him wearing the outfit at a party a couple of years ago.

http://www.thefightins.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/burrell.man_.or_.machine.jpg

[Barnaby Jones]

Horrifying!

Not quite as horrifying as Vlad in the field, but still terrifying!!!!!

[cougarjake13]

I still cant believe we lost to that assclown.. He looks like CM Punk.

i knew he looked like someone


damn i couldnt think of it

[TripleSkeet]

I'm afraid to ask how you could figure that out from the video!

He used to wear that shit at McFaddens.

[Dudeman]

texans freaked out about MJ in SF (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Dallas-Newy-is-the-Citys-Newest-Star-106154253.html?dr)

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Sure lets expand the season until Christmas.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AudgD4pW3HspAV.hkJ60c7URvLYF?slug=ap-expandedplayoffs

[Dudeman]

SUCK IT, you worthless piece of crap

http://highbridnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/george-bush_rangers_040728_ssv.jpg

[TheGameHHH]

Congrats to the G-men

[Recyclerz]

SUCK IT, you worthless piece of crap

http://highbridnation.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/george-bush_rangers_040728_ssv.jpg

This might be the last chance to savor a Blue State victory over the Forces of Darkness for a while. :wink:

I intend to enjoy it for the next 18 hours or so.

[RingWraith]

Sure lets expand the season until Christmas.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AudgD4pW3HspAV.hkJ60c7URvLYF?slug=ap-expandedplayoffs

I think it's inevitable. After all, the World Series ends in November more often now anyway. I'm sure it'll be a one game playoff or 2 out of 3 series.

[epo]

Burrell sure earned that WS ring. 0 for 13, with 11Ks. Seriously, I could've done that!

[Justice4all]

Very nice win from the Giants. Team effort from the start of the playoffs (even to get them into it) to the very end. Well deserved.

It's always good when you see one of the top 4 droughts end with a WS win.

[spoon]

Burrell sure earned that WS ring. 0 for 13, with 11Ks. Seriously, I could've done that!

Be honest, you would have had 13K's.

[Snacks]

Is anyone else happy this season is over? I grew up playing baseball but wow its so boring. The season is way too long, the games are too long and slow and boring. If it wasnt for fantasy baseball I dont think I would care at all. I will pay attention in april for a few games when the season starts, in July for the all star game and october for the playoffs. But unlike football their is no parody in the league. For the most part the yanks, sox, angels, braves, cards etc will make the playoffs and every now and then you get 2 nice stories like this years tex/sf. But damn was this post season awful. I love good pitching but lets be honest baseball was exciting in 1998 and 2001 because of the long ball. This witch hunt of steroids that the writers created and forced people to care about worked for a couple of years. But now no one (majority) cares about steroids. All they did was make the sport even more boring then it has always been!

[spoon]

disagree

loved the playoffs and the pitching

there was plenty of offense and it wasn't artificial and over the top where every run DIDN'T matter much as it does now

[A.J.]

Your World Series MVP.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yKSo5xPjLpM/TB6cEpHxNXI/AAAAAAAANQg/31TAf6j8T8g/s1600/edgah.JPG

[foodcourtdruide]

disagree

loved the playoffs and the pitching

there was plenty of offense and it wasn't artificial and over the top where every run DIDN'T matter much as it does now

Agreed. This was a great post-season, though I wish the Rangers put up a little more of a fight. Still, there was some amazing pitching and tense, tense moments.

[Earlshog]

Burrell sure earned that WS ring. 0 for 13, with 11Ks. Seriously, I could've done that!

Pat The rusty gate returns. In Burrells defense they wouldn't have been playing in the world series if it wasn't for him...

[Barnaby Jones]

Agreed. This was a great post-season, though I wish the Rangers put up a little more of a fight. Still, there was some amazing pitching and tense, tense moments.

Loved the playoffs this year!

[KingModem]

What does everybody think about a 7 day DL (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/22/sports/baseball/22bats.html?src=twrhp)?

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im glad I dont have to see those awful UPS commercials anymore to the tune of thats Amore.

[Snacks]

What does everybody think about a 7 day DL (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/22/sports/baseball/22bats.html?src=twrhp)?

i think we will see a lot of starting pitchers go on it so they can bring up a bat for a 7 days while they would have pitched anyway!

[foodcourtdruide]

i think we will see a lot of starting pitchers go on it so they can bring up a bat for a 7 days while they would have pitched anyway!

It's only for concussions.

[Snacks]

It's only for concussions.

i know and a pitcher will some how get a concussion during practice after a start or running one out to 1st baser but they will only catch it after a start.

[KingModem]

i know and a pitcher will some how get a concussion during practice after a start or running one out to 1st baser but they will only catch it after a start.

Sounds like it will get abused, good point. I like the 15 day DL, it really introduces a lot of strategy. It sounds like you get suspended for 7 days with the ability to bring someone up during that period if you get a concussion.

[hanso]

Your World Series MVP.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yKSo5xPjLpM/TB6cEpHxNXI/AAAAAAAANQg/31TAf6j8T8g/s1600/edgah.JPG

Did Cody Ross get the snub?

[Snacks]

Did Cody Ross get the snub?

no Lincecum (sp?) did. How doesnt he win the MVP? He won 2 of the 4 games and had a 1 era with like 20+ strike outs while beating a great post season pitcher both times!

[TheGameHHH]

no Lincecum (sp?) did. How doesnt he win the MVP? He won 2 of the 4 games and had a 1 era with like 20+ strike outs while beating a great post season pitcher both times!

And beating the "unbeatable" Lee twice

[spoon]

And beating the "unbeatable" Lee twice

I agree, it should have been Lincecum

[Earlshog]

RIP Sparky!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/11/04/sparky.anderson.obit.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

[OGC]

RIP Sparky!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/11/04/sparky.anderson.obit.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

Holy crap, he died at the age of 76. That means he was in his 40's when he managed the Big Red Machine. He looked about 70 back then. :glurps:

[foodcourtdruide]

Holy crap, he died at the age of 76. That means he was in his 40's when he managed the Big Red Machine. He looked about 70 back then. :glurps:

I thought the same exact thing. When I heard he was sick I thought he would be about 90 now. He looked SO old in the 80's.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Your World Series MVP.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yKSo5xPjLpM/TB6cEpHxNXI/AAAAAAAANQg/31TAf6j8T8g/s1600/edgah.JPG

SF Declined his option

[joeyballsack]

Derek Jeter continues his defensive dominance, winning another Gold Glove.

[Snacks]

Derek Jeter continues his defensive dominance, winning another Gold Glove.

maybe jeter wants to stay a ss because the american league has shitty ss and at any other position he would be considered a bum even though he really isnt that good at ss either. how the hell did he win a gg this year? how has he won that many in the first place?

[TheGameHHH]

Derek Jeter continues his defensive dominance, winning another Gold Glove.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, i know.

but hey, highest fielding percentage and least errors among SS.

[joeyballsack]

So not having the range to make an error is a plus now.

Gotcha.

[foodcourtdruide]

So not having the range to make an error is a plus now.

Gotcha.

Hilarious. I don't even think Yankees fans can defend this one.

[TheGameHHH]

So not having the range to make an error is a plus now.

Gotcha.

my post was said in jest, did you not see me laughing at first?!

Gotcha

[Knowledged_one]

Hilarious. I don't even think Yankees fans can defend this one.



You obviously don't remember bdc

[HBox]

Whenever Jeter goes to his right it looks like the video has gone into slomo.

[joeyballsack]

my post was said in jest, did you not see me laughing at first?!

Gotcha

My post was in jest of your jest.

[TjM]

Gold Glove voting continues to be a sham with Derek Jeter winning another Gold Glove.

FTFY

[cougarjake13]

nothing will ever be as bad as rafeal palmeiro winning while dh'ing for 140 games

[hanso]

The Damned-Fish should have paid Uggla. Now they face him 18 times with the Braves.

[TheGameHHH]

The Damned-Fish should have paid Uggla. Now they face him 18 times with the Braves.

they offered him a deal, and a pretty good one at that considering the Marlins

[Earlshog]

they offered him a deal, and a pretty good one at that considering the Marlins

Yup they offered him 48 mil for four years. I wonder if Atlanta will pay more then that?

[JimBeam]

So apparently the Yankees offered Jeter 3 years/$63 million and he turned it down.

You guys that are true Yankee fans do you really think he's as valuable to your team as it's made out to be ? Especially now ?

I mean you have practically all grown men in that clubhouse now so it's not like they need any kinda rah rah shit from him.

As far as bridging back to the glory days of the late 90's you still have Rivera and Posada for that.

To me, as an anti-Yankee fan, it seems like that stuff is being overblown.

Fans will still go to the games, whether or not he's at SS, as long as they win.

[Snacks]

So apparently the Yankees offered Jeter 3 years/$63 million and he turned it down.

You guys that are true Yankee fans do you really think he's as valuable to your team as it's made out to be ? Especially now ?

I mean you have practically all grown men in that clubhouse now so it's not like they need any kinda rah rah shit from him.

As far as bridging back to the glory days of the late 90's you still have Rivera and Posada for that.

To me, as an anti-Yankee fan, it seems like that stuff is being overblown.

Fans will still go to the games, whether or not he's at SS, as long as they win.

jeter is nuts to turn this down, all it is, is a power move. he is trying to make them do what he wants and prove the power he has over the fans and the organization. he has been overpaid during most of his last contract and now he wants even more for more years then he was offered? hes not worth half of what they are offering. this falls on the yankees for making him out to be better then he is and the fans for doing the same. the problem is the fans and the org wanted this generations mantle, joe d, babe etc. and created jeter. sorry has been good and getting 3000 hits will be the main great accomplishment he will do on his own.

[JimBeam]

The way I look at it is they had their Mantle for this era. Not agreeing to pay him ridiculous money shouldn't diminish what they've accomplished together.

It's not like if he doesn't finish his career w/ the Yankees he wasn't great for their organization for 15 years.

Sensible fans will see that it's Jeter that's trying to big time the Yankees and not the other way around.

Any fan that says " Hey you have the money, pay him. You owe him. " should have no problem w/ having their ticket prices raised.

[Snoogans]

jeter is nuts to turn this down, all it is, is a power move. he is trying to make them do what he wants and prove the power he has over the fans and the organization. he has been overpaid during most of his last contract and now he wants even more for more years then he was offered? hes not worth half of what they are offering. this falls on the yankees for making him out to be better then he is and the fans for doing the same. the problem is the fans and the org wanted this generations mantle, joe d, babe etc. and created jeter. sorry has been good and getting 3000 hits will be the main great accomplishment he will do on his own.

actually that isnt it at all. According to reports, he just wants a 4th year cause at the same age, they gave posada 4 years.

That move worked out so well with Posada I cant believe they arent just throwing years at jeter. he is a true yankee, and he dove into the stands to catch that ball, he deserves EVERYTHING

[Snoogans]

The way I look at it is they had their Mantle for this era. Not agreeing to pay him ridiculous money shouldn't diminish what they've accomplished together.

It's not like if he doesn't finish his career w/ the Yankees he wasn't great for their organization for 15 years.

Sensible fans will see that it's Jeter that's trying to big time the Yankees and not the other way around.

Any fan that says " Hey you have the money, pay him. You owe him. " should have no problem w/ having their ticket prices raised.

the yankees already raised ticket prices. Already announced it pre emptively i think as a way to tell the fans we are gonna over pay for Cliff Lee.

[JimBeam]

My point was more that the fans can't expect an organization to meet all their wishlists and not expect to feel the brunt of that.

I'm sure they'd have raised prices whether or not they were even gonna sign Jeter.

It's just bad business for them to sign him for ridiculous money.

I understand you don't wanna embarass him and offer him what he'd get on the market but you don't have to pay 3X what he'd get elsewhere just because he happened to be on your team for 15 years.

[TheGameHHH]

So apparently the Yankees offered Jeter 3 years/$63 million and he turned it down.

You guys that are true Yankee fans do you really think he's as valuable to your team as it's made out to be ? Especially now ?

I mean you have practically all grown men in that clubhouse now so it's not like they need any kinda rah rah shit from him.

As far as bridging back to the glory days of the late 90's you still have Rivera and Posada for that.

To me, as an anti-Yankee fan, it seems like that stuff is being overblown.

Fans will still go to the games, whether or not he's at SS, as long as they win.

According to all the Yankee beat writers that I've seen today it appears that as of this morning no offer to Jeter has been made. It's likely an offer will come in the next few days. It seems the offer is going to be somewhere in the 3 years and 45 million. Jeter will probably reject it because like Snoogans said he wants a 4th year. The Yankees will eventually give him the 4th year and in a few weeks he will sign.

[TheGameHHH]

Also, huge day for sabermetrics. It seems the writers might be starting to embrace it as King Felix deservedly wins the Cy Young.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

According to all the Yankee beat writers that I've seen today it appears that as of this morning no offer to Jeter has been made. It's likely an offer will come in the next few days. It seems the offer is going to be somewhere in the 3 years and 45 million. Jeter will probably reject it because like Snoogans said he wants a 4th year. The Yankees will eventually give him the 4th year and in a few weeks he will sign.

As a Yankee fan. Jeter should be lucky that they will offer him 3. Also hes not worth 15-20 million per year. I know however that the brass will cave in to his demands

[Snoogans]

they offered 3 for 63. he wants 4 cause posada got 4, even though posada got 4 for 60. If i was hal, Id tell jeter to go fuck himself and lower it to 3 for 45 cause jeter said no. Fuck him. He doesnt deserve shit.

On a side note, the yankees made the offer and basically announced he wasnt worth it and it was for past shit. I think that pissed him off a little

[Section 8]

Also, huge day for sabermetrics. It seems the writers might be starting to embrace it as King Felix deservedly wins the Cy Young.

The guy was getting no run support. Wins and losses really shouldn't count as they rely on the rest of the team to score more runs than the pitcher allows. Felix was dominant in virtually every other category that typifies a Cy Young winner. He more than deserved the honor.

Now I want to see someone with a sub 2.00 ERA win it with a record of 8-20. I think it will be someone on the Pirates.