2010-11 MLB Offseason Thread

[foodcourtdruide]

Alomar was brought in to spot fill but Met fans assumed he'd lose 10 years on his age and hit like in Toronto. Sorry, that's not how nature works.

I'm sorry, this is just not true. The season before he came to the Mets he had the best OPS of his career. He struggled a little a year before, but in 1999 he had the second best OPS of his career.

EDIT: And in 2000, "struggled" just means he didn't put up HoF first ballot numbers. He still had a great year for a 2B

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Alomar was brought in to spot fill but Met fans assumed he'd lose 10 years on his age and hit like in Toronto. Sorry, that's not how nature works. His fielding was still fine, just not insane as he was in SD and Toronto. The guy led Toronto to two titles and was a fixture at all-star games and in the gold glove category (rightfully so unlike Jeter). Yes, I take MAJOR issue with pretty much ANY gold glove won by Jeter. Yet another vote that is getting destroyed and more suspect year in and year out. The fact that people even lobbied for Jeter as mvp when he wasn't even the mvp of his team is hilarious. Not to mention a certain catcher's HISTORIC year in Minny. Is anyone unbiased at this point? Hell, is anyone not influenced by the big market tag and bought all-star teams as well.


His # are great and I will not bitch when He is inducted into the Hall of Fame

But I smirked when I found out he may have AIDs and Smirked when I found out he was half a fag

plus the Spit in the Face incident was classless


I dont like the Jerk, but soon I will say I dont like the Hall of Fame inducted Jerk

[PD]

His # are great and I will not bitch when He is inducted into the Hall of Fame

But I smirked when I found out he may have AIDs and Smirked when I found out he was half a fag

plus the Spit in the Face incident was classless


I dont like the Jerk, but soon I will say I dont like the Hall of Fame inducted Jerk

He was awful with the Mets, but he has apologized to Hirshbeck - who supported his HOF candidacy. Basically he made an awful mistake in the heat of the moment, but according to all that know him, it was out of his character.

Yes, he deserves to be in the HOF, but he is FAR from the biggest jerk in baseball.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

He was awful with the Mets, but he has apologized to Hirshbeck - who supported his HOF candidacy. Basically he made an awful mistake in the heat of the moment, but according to all that know him, it was out of his character.

Yes, he deserves to be in the HOF, but he is FAR from the biggest jerk in baseball.


Alomar is on display in the Window at the Jerk Store

[spoon]

I'm sorry, this is just not true. The season before he came to the Mets he had the best OPS of his career. He struggled a little a year before, but in 1999 he had the second best OPS of his career.

EDIT: And in 2000, "struggled" just means he didn't put up HoF first ballot numbers. He still had a great year for a 2B

He went to the Mets in 2002 at 34 and his stats were clearly influenced by playing in CLeveland (park and stacked offensive lineup). Also, using OPS is an interesting way to sum up a player.

[spoon]

Alomar is on display in the Window at the Jerk Store

Awful

hippo is back

[Seinfez]

Alomar is on display in the Window at the Jerk Store

whats difference? you're their all-time best seller.

[spoon]

whats difference? you're their all-time best seller.

Oh seinfez! Why can't you rub off on actual fez?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

whats difference? you're their all-time best seller.


I had sex with your life partner

[spoon]

I had sex with your life partner

Stop watching reruns and sell some cruises fatty!

[foodcourtdruide]

He went to the Mets in 2002 at 34 and his stats were clearly influenced by playing in CLeveland (park and stacked offensive lineup). Also, using OPS is an interesting way to sum up a player.

Look at his OPS+ then. It was insanely good in those years. Even considering the ballpark and line-up (granted, crappy team but he still had Piazza and productive Alfonzo in that line-up), no one on the planet expected the drastic decline Alomar had in ONE season.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Stop watching reruns and sell some cruises fatty!


I give you a gift and pick the Colts over the Chargers and this is how you re pay me

[hammersavage]

how many home runs did Andre Dawson hit between the first year he was on the ballot until now?

[PD]

how many home runs did Andre Dawson hit between the first year he was on the ballot until now?

I hear people say things like that alot (including Michael Kay today - ugh)
but what we really need is for these ballots to be public and explanations for changes.

There could be some legit changes- the people who ballot change (people die and are replaced), or one writer can be convinced by another to change their ballot, or the makeup of the ballot may make a writer change (I think it was Tim Kurkjian who said he had voted for Lee Smith previously, but this year had 10 people he thought more worthy so he took Smith off).

Let em say why- and take away the vote from those who say "I think player x is a hall of famer, but not first ballot"

[cougarjake13]

there shouldnt be a 15 year eligibility bullshit


you are either a hall of famer or not


if your career has the stats worthy of a hall of fame induction then they should get in first ballot, first year eligible look at his career and if he's worthy put him in, if not then sorry see ya no more years on the ballot after that


cause inevitably we have what we had today, a guy who's been on the ballot for 8 years and didnt get in til the 9th try


so what happened in that time frame ?? the whole steroids thing and now people are looking at guys who they thought previously werent worthy but may now think they are cause of inflated numbers


same thing with blyleven, one of these years, almost this year, there wont be any clear cut choices and he'll get in or the veterans committee, which is a joke, will put him in

[foodcourtdruide]

there shouldnt be a 15 year eligibility bullshit


you are either a hall of famer or not


if your career has the stats worthy of a hall of fame induction then they should get in first ballot, first year eligible look at his career and if he's worthy put him in, if not then sorry see ya no more years on the ballot after that


cause inevitably we have what we had today, a guy who's been on the ballot for 8 years and didnt get in til the 9th try


so what happened in that time frame ?? the whole steroids thing and now people are looking at guys who they thought previously werent worthy but may now think they are cause of inflated numbers


same thing with blyleven, one of these years, almost this year, there wont be any clear cut choices and he'll get in or the veterans committee, which is a joke, will put him in


Actually, I think players should have eligability once every 10 years. In the context of history from today, pitching in the 60's was incredibly dominant. We may be more inclined TODAY to put a hitter from the 60's into the hall of fame than we may have been in the 80's. Also, this would eliminate some potential writers bias keeping certain players out, or putting certain players in.

I agree with you though. If a player doesn't get in this year, why would he get in next year? You are either in or not.

Alomar should be in, case closed.

Dawson should not be in, case closed.

Consensus should be higher than 75%.

[cougarjake13]

Actually, I think players should have eligability once every 10 years. In the context of history from today, pitching in the 60's was incredibly dominant. We may be more inclined TODAY to put a hitter from the 60's into the hall of fame than we may have been in the 80's. Also, this would eliminate some potential writers bias keeping certain players out, or putting certain players in.

I agree with you though. If a player doesn't get in this year, why would he get in next year? You are either in or not.

Alomar should be in, case closed.

Dawson should not be in, case closed.

Consensus should be higher than 75%.




absolutely this is some stupid silver slugger award



i'd say 90% should be the threshold, i know not many have gotten over 90% but it should be hard to get in

[foodcourtdruide]

absolutely this is some stupid silver slugger award



i'd say 90% should be the threshold, i know not many have gotten over 90% but it should be hard to get in

Making it 90% and once a decade would detract some writers from having the stupid "first ballot" rule. Could you imagine how absurd it would be if Alomar wasn't in the hall of fame for the next 10 years?

Also, I say reduce the number of voters so a writer can't make an outrageous vote for quick publicity.

[Marc with a c]

one vote every ten years is retarded.

[foodcourtdruide]

one vote every ten years is retarded.

Thanks for putting up a bullet-proof argument.

[Marc with a c]

Thanks for putting up a bullet-proof argument.

well the ceremony of thirty five people once every ten years would be awesome.

[foodcourtdruide]

well the ceremony of thirty five people once every ten years would be awesome.

Nooo, you misunderstood me. Players will be eligible once every 10 years individually. So Alomar wouldn't be eligible again until 2020, but someone who was first eligible last season will not be eligible again until 2019.

[Marc with a c]

Nooo, you misunderstood me. Players will be eligible once every 10 years individually. So Alomar wouldn't be eligible again until 2020, but someone who was first eligible last season will not be eligible again until 2019.

oh. yeah much less worse.

[razorboy]

I think the BBWAA should be required to write an essay explaining each vote or non-vote, and then be evaluated every year based on a gold star/frowny face sticker system.

[foodcourtdruide]

I think the BBWAA should be required to write an essay explaining each vote or non-vote, and then be evaluated every year based on a gold star/frowny face sticker system.

I say check/check-minus/check-plus system

check-plus = You don't have to write an essay next season.
check = you can vote next season, but you must write an essay to support your vote.
check-minus = death

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Why Blyleven isn't in is a fucking shame. He won 288 games pitching for some awful teams. 5th all time on the strikeouts list and still not in.

For gods sake its been 20 years, Reinstate Pete Rose the WWE hall of fame isn't enough

[epo]

Why Blyleven isn't in is a fucking shame. He won 288 games pitching for some awful teams. 5th all time on the strikeouts list and still not in.

I agree that if Dawson is good enough for the Hall, then Bert & Jack Morris both should be in.

For gods sake its been 20 years, Reinstate Pete Rose the WWE hall of fame isn't enough

That's just stupid.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I agree that if Dawson is good enough for the Hall, then Bert & Jack Morris both should be in.



That's just stupid.

So youre saying Rose shouldnt be reinstated? Are grudges supposed to be held that long? sure he fucked up and finally admitted it a few years ago but c'mon already

[foodcourtdruide]

Why Blyleven isn't in is a fucking shame. He won 288 games pitching for some awful teams. 5th all time on the strikeouts list and still not in.

For gods sake its been 20 years, Reinstate Pete Rose the WWE hall of fame isn't enough

Blyleven not being in is a disgrace.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Blyleven not being in is a disgrace.

Sure he didnt have a winning pct like Glavine or Maddux but then again Killbrew is in with 573HR and a career Avg in the .260 range. Look how many times it took Sutton. These fucking writers are a joke

[epo]

So youre saying Rose shouldnt be reinstated? Are grudges supposed to be held that long? sure he fucked up and finally admitted it a few years ago but c'mon already

Pete Rose shouldn't be allowed to buy a ticket to a game, much less have any involvement with a game as a league official or a member of its Hall of Fame.

[spoon]

These fucking writers are a joke

That pretty much sums it up.

[foodcourtdruide]

Sure he didnt have a winning pct like Glavine or Maddux but then again Killbrew is in with 573HR and a career Avg in the .260 range. Look how many times it took Sutton. These fucking writers are a joke

I wouldn't have a conversation about baseball with anyone that judges a pitcher based on wins, I can't believe some of them are hall of fame voters. It would be like judging a batter based on Runs.

[spoon]

Pete Rose shouldn't be allowed to buy a ticket to a game, much less have any involvement with a game as a league official or a member of its Hall of Fame.

I'll agree with this until they let in Arod or some other clear known cheater. At least there is still no proof Rose actually changed the games he played in. Now I understand he may make different choices if he actually had money on a game, but that's not as clear as Arod injecting...and he even lied for years about that. What else don't we know?

[spoon]

I wouldn't have a conversation about baseball with anyone that judges a pitcher based on wins, I can't believe some of them are hall of fame voters. It would be like judging a batter based on Runs.

Come on, Michael Kay one argued with Al Leiter that Jeter should get the gold glove over a clearly better fielder statistically and visually based on his bat. These fucks are all biased as hell and logic just doesn't fit their schedules...especially those linked to monopolies.

Ever listen to the "Hawk" during a White Sox game. It's literally embarrassing.

[HBox]

You all touch on good HOF issues but you all missed the biggest one today. Some writer out there looked at this ballot and voted for David Segui.

To go in the Hall of Fame.

David Segui.











































David Segui.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I wouldn't have a conversation about baseball with anyone that judges a pitcher based on wins, I can't believe some of them are hall of fame voters. It would be like judging a batter based on Runs.

There are a few pitchers with 300+ wins like Perry and Niekro but they had winning percentages in the .530-550 range. Ryans winning pct wasnt the best but the 5700+ K's and 7 no hitters were a big factor. I think out of all of them Perry was the only one to win a Cy Young award.

[epo]

Ever listen to the "Hawk" during a White Sox game. It's literally embarrassing.

Ken Harrelson should get the same treatment as Pete Rose, except he shouldn't be allowed to purchase the MLB Season Ticket on cable.

[spoon]

You all touch on good HOF issues but you all missed the biggest one today. Some writer out there looked at this ballot and voted for David Segui.

To go in the Hall of Fame.

David Segui.





David Segui.

I saw that and laughed too. Yet once on the roids he really "learned" how to hit for average.

[A.J.]

You all touch on good HOF issues but you all missed the biggest one today. Some writer out there looked at this ballot and voted for David Segui.

To go in the Hall of Fame.

David Segui.











































David Segui.

Mikeyboy had a vote?

[A.J.]

Agreed. Still, he finished third with 73.7 percent. Maybe not getting on the first ballot is "punishment" for the spitting incident. I think he goes in the next time around.

Here's why Howard Bryant didn't vote for Alomar. (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=4798793)

[spoon]

Here's why Howard Bryant didn't vote for Alomar. (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=4798793)

"To enter in on the first ballot means a player must compare with the immortals of the first class -- or, at the least, the first class of his time. The Mount Rushmore of Henderson's time would be (without steroid judgment): Bonds, Griffey, Clemens, Maddux and Alex Rodriguez. As good as he was, Alomar can't crack that group."

Wow, that may be one incredibly stupid statement. If you take OUT the steroid soaked players from that list and you have TWO clean faces. I'd argue in a SECOND that Alomar fits, especially since he was not only clean, but an AMAZING 2nd baseman. Earlier in the article he states how character and integrity are huge parts of the vote and he probably won't vote for the steroid linked players. Then he comes back on puts them on the "Mount Rushmore of Henderson's time.

I guess it's his style of shitty writing and voting alike, bc he did it at the start of the article as well. He first acts like the vote is not big whoop, then he touts how amazingly honored and privileged he is to get a vote...of which means very little. Take this asshole's vote away PLEASE.

[A.J.]

See this is the problem I was talking about spoon: some of these guys have their own agendas to push. Still, Alomar was very close to the required number of votes and should get in the next time around.

[PD]

See this is the problem I was talking about spoon: some of these guys have their own agendas to push. Still, Alomar was very close to the required number of votes and should get in the next time around.

a number of those who didn't vote for him have already said they will vote for him next year.

[foodcourtdruide]

a number of those who didn't vote for him have already said they will vote for him next year.

That drives me nuts. To be in the hall of fame you should be one of the all-time greats PERIOD. Creating this teir system diminishes what it means. Also, look at some of the guys that got in first ballot recently. You'd put Cal Ripken on the same level as Babe Ruth? Come on.

[spoon]

That drives me nuts. To be in the hall of fame you should be one of the all-time greats PERIOD. Creating this teir system diminishes what it means. Also, look at some of the guys that got in first ballot recently. You'd put Cal Ripken on the same level as Babe Ruth? Come on.

Great point. He's the classic hype over substance argument. Was Cal a good player, sure. Is he better at short than Alomar at second, not a chance.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Was watching MLB network the other night. I think Alomar might get in for 2011. Next years ballot inclued Palmeiro and he wont be getting in. It sounded like Bagwell would be shunned too

[Suspect Chin]

Was watching MLB network the other night. I think Alomar might get in for 2011. Next years ballot inclued Palmeiro and he wont be getting in. It sounded like Bagwell would be shunned too

2011 is the year of Ron Santo.

[spoon]

Was watching MLB network the other night. I think Alomar might get in for 2011. Next years ballot inclued Palmeiro and he wont be getting in. It sounded like Bagwell would be shunned too

In my mind they should be too. 2011 or not, the vote just becomes more suspect year in and year out. What about Biggio? Is he a good enough second baseman for a first time vote? I'm sorry, you simply can't judge everyone on steroid era first basemen and outfielders as that guy did and then say that he won't vote for them. Not to mention it's only HALF the equation, especially for anyone playing up the middle in my mind (SS, 2nd, C and CF).

Anyone who didn't vote should surely lose their vote. The guy who wrote this article and the other douche on the video at MLB.com saying the one spitting incident is the reason, in which I believe BAINES had to remind him he was personally attacked badly and it was one incident.

[razorboy]

2011 is the year of Ron Santo.

Personally, I thought 1974 was the year of Ron Santo.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/santo.jpg

[underdog]

Well, no shit. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4816607)

[hammersavage]

im stunned

[disneyspy]

i cant believe it

[PD]

there was a lot of talk that he was waiting until the HOF voting was in before making the announcement, and hoping, like A-Rod, he would be forgiven.

Roids or not, he hit the furthest shot I ever saw hit at shea, 3/4 up the scoreboard.

[foodcourtdruide]

there was a lot of talk that he was waiting until the HOF voting was in before making the announcement, and hoping, like A-Rod, he would be forgiven.

Roids or not, he hit the furthest shot I ever saw hit at shea, 3/4 up the scoreboard.

Furthest shot I've ever seen was Mo Vaughn's homerun off David Wells.

[Suspect Chin]

I never thought this would happen and as you've said, it's all about the HOF.

I usually think its a joke when celebs/politicians apologize in the media, but for some reason as soon as I read that, I suddenly hated him less and regained a little bit of respect for him.

How long until Barry follows suit?

[Suspect Chin]

I wonder if there will be any legal repercussions for him now admitting it.

[IMSlacker]

I wonder if there will be any legal repercussions for him now admitting it.

I don't think there will, at least as far as the congressional testimony goes. He just refused to answer questions, so he never lied to congress.

[Suspect Chin]

I don't think there will, at least as far as the congressional testimony goes. He just refused to answer questions, so he never lied to congress.

Lies of omission? Could EliSnow Esq. please respond?

[IMSlacker]

Lies of omission? Could EliSnow Esq. please respond?

Nah. I don't think he has anything to worry about. They didn't even go after Palmero after he clearly lied to congress.

[PD]

from SI.com's John Heyman:


if you lie for 10 years, and everyone knows you're lying, what's the value of finally telling the truth?

[cougarjake13]

I don't think there will, at least as far as the congressional testimony goes. He just refused to answer questions, so he never lied to congress.

Lies of omission? Could EliSnow Esq. please respond?


he's fine

he never lied, he just refused to talk


so you cant get brought up on perjury charges when you never said anything to perjure yourself in the first place

[epo]

from SI.com's John Heyman:

Actually, I think this will go a long way towards repairing McGwire's image.

I also think John Heyman is a shitty writer.

[PD]

Actually, I think this will go a long way towards repairing McGwire's image.

I also think John Heyman is a shitty writer.

I think that McGwire is hoping for that- I'm sure he took notice of what A-Rod's "confession".

I actually liked Heyman when he was a writer (Newsday) as opposed to an online guy.
As for online "reporters" he is pretty good too.

I think there will be a split between Midwest opinion and East Coast opinions.
Heyman definitely represent an east coast one.

[Suspect Chin]

Actually, I think this will go a long way towards repairing McGwire's image.

I also think John Heyman is a shitty writer.

They put the signs back up on 'Mark McGwire Highway' here today.
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1111/mlb_mcgwire_highway_600.jpg

The real reason he finally divulged the truth is because he was hired as the Cardinals hitting coach and won't be able to hide out and avoid the media any longer.

[PD]

They put the signs back up on 'Mark McGwire Highway' here today.
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1111/mlb_mcgwire_highway_600.jpg

The real reason he finally divulged the truth is because he was hired as the Cardinals hitting coach and won't be able to hide out and avoid the media any longer.
that is one reason, but I definitely think he is hoping the "confession" will help him get into HOF

[A.J.]

How long before this is actually true?

Dusty Baker Destroys Aroldis Chapman's Arm Within Minutes Of Arrival (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/dusty_baker_destroys)

[razorboy]

How long before this is actually true?

Honestly, I think the whole Dusty young pitcher thing is a bit overblown. The current philosophy of protecting young pitchers and pitch counts is one of the things I dislike about baseball. I'm not a DB fan, but as a former college pitcher I feel comfortable in saying that by the time you are 21 or 22 your arm is what it is. Either you have developed your mechanics and you have a durable elbow and shoulder, or you don't. Baker was cursed with a few pitchers who had absolutely awful mechanics in San Fran and Chicago.

[goreds2]

Honestly, I think the whole Dusty young pitcher thing is a bit overblown. The current philosophy of protecting young pitchers and pitch counts is one of the things I dislike about baseball. I'm not a DB fan, but as a former college pitcher I feel comfortable in saying that by the time you are 21 or 22 your arm is what it is. Either you have developed your mechanics and you have a durable elbow and shoulder, or you don't. Baker was cursed with a few pitchers who had absolutely awful mechanics in San Fran and Chicago.

As the old saying goes, we shall go as far as our pitching takes us.

I like our possible rotation:

Edinson Volquez - Coming off Tommy John surgery (Will return mid season 2010, I hope)
Homer Bailey
Bronson Arroyo
Johnny Cueto
Aaron Harang
Aroldis Chapman (I say start him now if he throws in the high 90's / low 100's.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=cin

[PD]

didn't see if this is elsewhere

A's sign Ben Sheets, Cubs sign X Nady.

[IMSlacker]

I think I like the Nady signing. He's probably the best option out of the fourth outfielders the Cubs were looking at (Jermaine Dye, Roco Baldelli & Johnny Gomes).

[Souter Fell]

Sheets to the A's. How long til Damon officially comes back to the Bronx?

[TheGameHHH]

I think I like the Nady signing. He's probably the best option out of the fourth outfielders the Cubs were looking at (Jermaine Dye, Roco Baldelli & Johnny Gomes).

I really like Nady and I'm pissed he didn't get more time in the Bronx. I think if he had stayed healthy the Yanks would have at least made him a reasonable offer.

I can't believe Sheets got $10 million. Don't get me wrong, he's a phenominal pitcher when he actually goes out there but there's so much risk involved. I just thought the number was a little high, I expected him to sign for less. But if the A's actually have a healthy 1-2 in Sheets and Dursczcncnklzcncnsc;her, that's very solid for them.

[Ritalin]

I think I like the Nady signing. He's probably the best option out of the fourth outfielders the Cubs were looking at (Jermaine Dye, Roco Baldelli & Johnny Gomes).

Me too. I watched Nady with the Mets, and he's a good solid pro. A good addition.

[foodcourtdruide]

I really like Nady and I'm pissed he didn't get more time in the Bronx. I think if he had stayed healthy the Yanks would have at least made him a reasonable offer.

I can't believe Sheets got $10 million. Don't get me wrong, he's a phenominal pitcher when he actually goes out there but there's so much risk involved. I just thought the number was a little high, I expected him to sign for less. But if the A's actually have a healthy 1-2 in Sheets and Dursczcncnklzcncnsc;her, that's very solid for them.

I keep thinking the A's just signed Sheets hoping he'd have a good first half of the season so they could trade him for prospects.

[KingModem]

Twins make surprise offseason signing of Jim Thome to a one year deal. I hope he wasn't doing steroids...

[Ritalin]

Twins make surprise offseason signing of Jim Thome to a one year deal. I hope he wasn't doing steroids...

He was doing jelly donuts.

And now he will KILL the White Sox. Just watch.

[Ritalin]

I keep thinking the A's just signed Sheets hoping he'd have a good first half of the season so they could trade him for prospects.

I don't think so. I'd question his durability after the surgery, and I wouldn't expect a contender to give up too much youth for him in a pennant race.

I do think it's a great deal if he has anything left. With some support and some luck, if he gives them 13-14 wins that's a steal at 10 mil.

[PD]

Yankees sign Randy Winn

http://twitter.com/nyp_joelsherman/statuses/8293373655

[PD]

Hall denies Dawson's Cubs request, must enter as an Expo (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Baseball-Hall-of-Fame-denies-Andre-Dawson-Cubs-request-must-enter-as-Expo-012710)

I think that's what he should go in as.

[IMSlacker]

Hall denies Dawson's Cubs request, must enter as an Expo (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Baseball-Hall-of-Fame-denies-Andre-Dawson-Cubs-request-must-enter-as-Expo-012710)

I think that's what he should go in as.

I'd agree, if the Expos still existed. Might as well put him in as a National.

[Suspect Chin]

Hall denies Dawson's Cubs request, must enter as an Expo (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Baseball-Hall-of-Fame-denies-Andre-Dawson-Cubs-request-must-enter-as-Expo-012710)

I think that's what he should go in as.

I was going to say that this is complete bullshit, but after reading that article I guess I have to reluctantly agree. I still think the player should have a bigger say in which team they go in as, but thanks to Wade Boggs, that is no longer the case.

[cougarjake13]

now that we have another expo in there can we go back and put gary carter in as a met as he rightfully should be

[epo]

now that we have another expo in there can we go back and put gary carter in as a met as he rightfully should be

I'll do you one better. How about we remove Gary Carter from the Hall of Fame completely for not deserving his spot to begin with?

[goreds2]

Twins make surprise offseason signing of Jim Thome to a one year deal. I hope he wasn't doing steroids...

I wonder if the Twins new ball park will be homerun friendly.

[joeyballsack]

I am watching the 1970 All Star Game on MLB Channel, and its an abbreviated version of it with only the highlights of each at bat being shown.

I am not old enough to have watched games on television that year and I am wondering if this is the way they were presented when they were played originally ? Was there enough airtime in the 70's for All Star games to be televised live ?

[Marc with a c]

any word on bedard and wang landing somewhere?

[cougarjake13]

any word on bedard and wang landing somewhere?

not yet

[sailor]

any word on wang landing somewhere?

gay marc jokes are as hack as old gvac jokes, so nevermind.

[goreds2]

Reds agree to contract with Cabrera
Shortstop receives one-year deal with option for 2011

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100131&content_id=8001704&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

[KingModem]

WCCO reporting 10-year/$200M for Mauer contract extension (http://wcco.com/sports/twins/joe.mauer.minnesota.2.1462891.html)

Buster Olney refutes via Twitter (http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN)

Haven't had this much edge of the seat sports happenings in Minnesota since...well...8 days ago.

[cougarjake13]

Reds agree to contract with Cabrera
Shortstop receives one-year deal with option for 2011

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100131&content_id=8001704&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin



one year deal is ok

you coulda gave castillo a 4 yr deal well past his prime

[cougarjake13]

WCCO reporting 10-year/$200M for Mauer contract extension (http://wcco.com/sports/twins/joe.mauer.minnesota.2.1462891.html)

Buster Olney refutes via Twitter (http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN)

Haven't had this much edge of the seat sports happenings in Minnesota since...well...8 days ago.

i know hes young but 10 yr deal for a catcher ??

[TheGameHHH]

i know hes young but 10 yr deal for a catcher ??

who knows what the final deal will be, but honestly Minnesota had no choice if they wanted to keep him. moving into that new park (which i still dont know how they built it without a roof) and wanting to pack it to show fans they are commited to them meant signing their franchise player for the long term. its risky for his position, but he's a stud and a gamble they had to take.

[goreds2]

Johnny Damon still looking for at least a two year deal. :nono:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Damon-still-wants-two-years?urn=mlb,218677

[brettmojo]

Johnny Damon still looking for at least a two year deal. :nono:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Damon-still-wants-two-years?urn=mlb,218677
Boras sure knows what's best for his ball players.

[KingModem]

Nick Punto Day (http://www.startribune.com/blogs/84222017.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD 3aPc:_Yyc:aUycaEacyU)

Anybody out there want a $4M/year super utility man with a career Fielding % of .977 and BA of .246?

[brettmojo]

Nick Punto Day (http://www.startribune.com/blogs/84222017.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD 3aPc:_Yyc:aUycaEacyU)

Anybody out there want a $4M/year super utility man with a career Fielding % of .977 and BA of .246?
I'd rather have Ron Coomer.

[Suspect Chin]

Tigers sign Johnny Damon to 1 year $8 million dollar deal.

Getting so excited for spring training ball.

[goreds2]

XM Baseball schedule:

http://www.xmradio.com/schedule/sport/get_mlb_schedule.jsp

[KingModem]

Joe Nathan tears 11.25 Million dollar elbow ligament. (http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/87107167.html)

My team is in peril awaiting a new closer.

[TjM]

Joe Nathan tears 11.25 Million dollar elbow ligament. (http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/87107167.html)

My team is in peril awaiting a new closer.

Fine Paplebon for MAur and we can talk

[foodcourtdruide]

Fine Paplebon for MAur and we can talk

You'd have to give up much more than Papelbon.

[TjM]

You'd have to give up much more than Papelbon.

Fine I'll throw in Varitek :devil2:

[K.C.]

I'm ready to give my infamous MLB projections for 2010!:

NL East
Phillies - 95-67
Braves - 88-74*
Marlins - 80-82
Mets - 78-84
Nationals - 72-90

NL Central
Cardinals - 92-70
Reds - 86-76
Cubs - 85-77
Brewers - 80-82
Pirates - 75-87
Astros - 68-94

NL West
Dodgers - 86-76
Giants - 85-77
Rockies - 83-79
Diamondbacks 77-85
Padres - 70-92

AL East
Yankees - 93-79
Red Sox - 90-72*
Orioles - 81-81
Rays - 77-85
Blue Jays - 63-99

AL Central
Twins - 85-77
Tigers - 82-80
White Sox - 81-81
Royals - 73-89
Indians - 65-97

AL West
Rangers - 84-78
Angels - 82-80
Mariners - 80-82
Athletics - 68-94

*-denotes Wild Card

NLDS
-Phillies defeat Dodgers 3-1
-Braves defeat Cardinals 3-2

ALDS
-Yankees defeat Rangers 3-1
-Twins defeat Red Sox 3-1

NLCS
-Phillies defeat Braves 4-3
-Twins defeat Yankees 4-3

WS
-Phillies defeat Twins 4-1 (World Series is postponed after Game 3 until next March given the idiocy of building an outdoor stadium in Minnesota).

[razorboy]

Ron Washington likes the nose candy. (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2010/03/si-texas-rangers-manager-ron-washington-tested-positive-for-cocaine/1)

[KingModem]

Ron Washington likes the nose candy. (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2010/03/si-texas-rangers-manager-ron-washington-tested-positive-for-cocaine/1)

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/03/thumb160x_ron-washington1.jpg

[cougarjake13]

Ron Washington likes the nose candy. (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2010/03/si-texas-rangers-manager-ron-washington-tested-positive-for-cocaine/1)




is that how he lost the weight ??

[Suspect Chin]

Reds - 86-76
Cubs - 85-77


Insanity.

[TheGameHHH]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/03/thumb160x_ron-washington1.jpg

it so is, this aint even a joke

[Pittsburgh]

[QUOTE=K.C.;2686925]I'm ready to give my infamous MLB projections for 2010!:

Pirates - 75-87


Sorry, but I can't imagine how the Pirates DON'T lose 100 games.

[Tenbatsuzen]

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2010/03/thumb160x_ron-washington1.jpg

CO FUCKING CAINE

[TjM]

Always figured Girardi would be the coke head. He seems high strung. Or Francona for pot way too laid back

[TheGameHHH]

Twins and Mauer go for another 8 years at $184 million

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5016230

[KingModem]

Twins and Mauer go for another 8 years at $184 million

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5016230

The Twins have officially had one of the best off-seasons in Major League Baseball history. See you in October!!!!!!!

[underdog]

The Twins have officially had one of the best off-seasons in Major League Baseball history. See you in October!!!!!!!

Spring training isn't going so well, though (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2010/news/story?id=5015108)

[KingModem]

Spring training isn't going so well, though (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2010/news/story?id=5015108)

I think Jon Rauch will fill the void nicely. The closing position is pretty over-rated in my opinion, but a guy with 30 tattoos and looks like a 6 foot 10 inch alien should be sufficient.

[The Bends]

Joe Nathan tears 11.25 Million dollar elbow ligament. (http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/87107167.html)

My team is in peril awaiting a new closer. The Twins are learning the hard way that it's foolish to give so much money to a closer....

The most overrated thing in baseball, besides a starting pitchers win total, is the closer position......

But...

The Twins still win the AL Central...

[KingModem]

The Twins are learning the hard way that it's foolish to give so much money to a closer....

The most overrated thing in baseball, besides a starting pitchers win total, is the closer position......

But...

The Twins still win the AL Central...

The contract is insured, so it is not a huge hit, other than losing Nathan.

[The Bends]

The contract is insured, so it is not a huge hit, other than losing Nathan. The point is that it still counts against the payroll.....Imagine what the Twins could have done with an extra 11 Million!

[KnoxHarrington]

What kind of payroll can the Twins realistically expect to be able to pay each year? If they can't go at least $80 or $90 million, the Mauer deal might be a problem long term.

I'd just hope it doesn't end up like the Reds signing Griffey, though I think Mauer is probably far more durable than Griffey was, even at that point.

[Pestz4Evah]

What kind of payroll can the Twins realistically expect to be able to pay each year? If they can't go at least $80 or $90 million, the Mauer deal might be a problem long term.

I'd just hope it doesn't end up like the Reds signing Griffey, though I think Mauer is probably far more durable than Griffey was, even at that point.

I saw Peter Gammons address this on MLBN last night:

But regardless of the weather, the Twins will realize a significant bump in revenues with their new park. They're about to sign a new radio and TV deal.

"It's not quite a Seattle deal," said one club official, but another says it will put the Twins within "the top 8-10 revenue teams," giving them a higher payroll than the Dodgers.

Seems like they should be alright....

[TheGameHHH]

What kind of payroll can the Twins realistically expect to be able to pay each year? If they can't go at least $80 or $90 million, the Mauer deal might be a problem long term.

I'd just hope it doesn't end up like the Reds signing Griffey, though I think Mauer is probably far more durable than Griffey was, even at that point.

they're debating this on Jim Rome right now as I type this and one panelist is making a solid point. He says the deal is good, though it might pose a problem, and his reasoning is sound. He's probably taking less than what he could have gotten on the open market from the Yanks or Sox, but its really good for baseball that a guy like Mauer is staying in his hometown. Baseball needs a little more of this and it's refreshing to see. We've seen teams be competitive with low payrolls so why can't the Twins do it as well despite the one massive contract. It's all about finding value and finding it cheap.

[KingModem]

they're debating this on Jim Rome right now as I type this and one panelist is making a solid point. He says the deal is good, though it might pose a problem, and his reasoning is sound. He's probably taking less than what he could have gotten on the open market from the Yanks or Sox, but its really good for baseball that a guy like Mauer is staying in his hometown. Baseball needs a little more of this and it's refreshing to see. We've seen teams be competitive with low payrolls so why can't the Twins do it as well despite the one massive contract. It's all about finding value and finding it cheap.

If you doubt the ability for the Twins to sustain a major payroll, you might want to get a pen and paper.

Being a 30 game a year visitor to the Metrodome, and now fighting tooth and nail to get tickets to Target Field, I anticipate the new stadium bringing revenues very close to the top 30%. Look at the attendance stats too, the Twins routinely drew over 30,000, sometimes over 40,000 fans at the Metrodome. And who wants to go see a game at the Metrodome??? Suite revenue was not non-existent due to the Metropolitan Sports Commission, but in Target Field, it is very relevant.

The Twins are yearly threat to win the AL Central. The farm teams have typically been voted the best in baseball. No matter what happens when we lose a big name player, we replace them with one of the prospects, and they become superstars (Justin Morneau, Michael Cuddyer, Denard Span, etc.).

I have no idea why the Twins have been considered a "small market team". I grew up in South Dakota, and people live and die by the Twins there. As does western Wisconsin, Northern Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, Manitoba, western Ontario, and even Wyoming and Montana. That brings the population base to a significant competitor to the "large market teams".

I am too lazy to do the math right now, but there is a large amount of pride in our team. The Twins were always the lovable "could-be's" who made the best with what they had. Now they will finally get over the hump where they are profitable, competitive, and no longer the little guys.

It will be a great year.

[epo]

Its probably because your fans don't turn out to the stadium very well and your owner is rich as sin & cheap as hell.

You should've been contracted.

Note: I should've referred to Twins fans as "fair weather assholes".

[TheGameHHH]

If you doubt the ability for the Twins to sustain a major payroll, you might want to get a pen and paper.

Being a 30 game a year visitor to the Metrodome, and now fighting tooth and nail to get tickets to Target Field, I anticipate the new stadium bringing revenues very close to the top 30%. Look at the attendance stats too, the Twins routinely drew over 30,000, sometimes over 40,000 fans at the Metrodome. And who wants to go see a game at the Metrodome??? Suite revenue was not non-existent due to the Metropolitan Sports Commission, but in Target Field, it is very relevant.

The Twins are yearly threat to win the AL Central. The farm teams have typically been voted the best in baseball. No matter what happens when we lose a big name player, we replace them with one of the prospects, and they become superstars (Justin Morneau, Michael Cuddyer, Denard Span, etc.).

I have no idea why the Twins have been considered a "small market team". I grew up in South Dakota, and people live and die by the Twins there. As does western Wisconsin, Northern Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, Manitoba, western Ontario, and even Wyoming and Montana. That brings the population base to a significant competitor to the "large market teams".

I am too lazy to do the math right now, but there is a large amount of pride in our team. The Twins were always the lovable "could-be's" who made the best with what they had. Now they will finally get over the hump where they are profitable, competitive, and no longer the little guys.

It will be a great year.

I didnt doubt it, i was stating what the guy on Rome said. I think they'll still have some money to play with, especially with increased stadium revenue (enjoy those April games in the snow outside) and the new TV deal. But I dont see them signing a guy like Crawford come the offseason. Thats not to say they won't be able to sign noticable names and have young talent come up and work out.

[cougarjake13]

I didnt doubt it, i was stating what the guy on Rome said. I think they'll still have some money to play with, especially with increased stadium revenue (enjoy those April games in the snow outside) and the new TV deal. But I dont see them signing a guy like Crawford come the offseason. Thats not to say they won't be able to sign noticable names and have young talent come up and work out.



they may have the fans but how many montanians are travelling to the metrodome or the new place ?? maybe a few games tops

[disneyspy]

i'm watching the tigers right now,i like their chances this year

[cougarjake13]

i'm watching the tigers right now,i like their chances this year

to disappoint you again ?? hell yeh im on board with that

[disneyspy]

to disappoint you again ?? hell yeh im on board with that

i'd rather have them in it til game 163 than be out of it by mid season like the mets

[TheGameHHH]

i'm watching the tigers right now,i like their chances this year

with my boy Austin Jackson at the top of the lineup, anything is possible

[disneyspy]

with my boy Austin Jackson at the top of the lineup, anything is possible

i'll miss grandersons solo home runs there,but i wont miss his choking with men on third,poor yankee fans have no idea they got bamboozled

[cougarjake13]

i'd rather have them in it til game 163 than be out of it by mid season like the mets

when did they add a game ??

[disneyspy]

when did they add a game ??

when they were tied with the twins after 162 games

[cougarjake13]

when they were tied with the twins after 162 games

yeh but that doesnt happen every year

[KingModem]

yeh but that doesnt happen every year

AL Central has been decided in game 163 the last two years.

White Sox over the Twins in 2008

Twins over the Tigers in 2009

[King Hippos Bandaid]

The Twins will be nowhere as good without a steady closer


I am aware that they seem to go on these improbable runs and such, but no closer is gonna make them a run of the mill team



I like the Twins (being one) and wish for some success, but I dont see it happening

[TheGameHHH]

The Twins will be nowhere as good without a steady closer


I am aware that they seem to go on these improbable runs and such, but no closer is gonna make them a run of the mill team



I like the Twins (being one) and wish for some success, but I dont see it happening

everyone make ur bets now, Twins 2010 World Champions

[razorboy]

Holy shit. Curt Schilling has gotten crazy fat.

[NickyL0885]

Seriously? I gotta watch this game on the god awful Yankees channel with their god awful announcers? Michael Kay needs to die a slow death.

[disneyspy]

Seriously? I gotta watch this game on the god awful Yankees channel with their god awful announcers? Michael Kay needs to die a slow death.

ESPN announcers are horrible too,i cant stand this fuck that sounds like he's always out of breathe

[razorboy]

i cant stand this fuck that sounds like he's always out of breathe

Leave Fez alone.

[KingModem]

ESPN announcers are horrible too,i cant stand this fuck that sounds like he's always out of breathe

I find Jon Miller comforting from my days watching baseball as a youth. I also find Mike Patrick comforting as well, and I miss his days of broadcasting Sunday Night Football on ESPN.

But I digress.

[epo]

I find Jon Miller comforting from my days watching baseball as a youth. I also find Mike Patrick comforting as well, and I miss his days of broadcasting Sunday Night Football on ESPN.

But I digress.

Jon Miller I still kind of like and I was surprised how much I liked Orel in the booth. But seriously ESPN....if you have a soul...fire Joe Morgan.

I'm begging you! Fire Joe Morgan!

[NickyL0885]

Jon Miller I still kind of like and I was surprised how much I liked Orel in the booth. But seriously ESPN....if you have a soul...fire Joe Morgan.

I'm begging you! Fire Joe Morgan!

Jon Miller blows too. He over-anunciates players names, like Carlos Bel-TRON

[TheGameHHH]

Jon Miller blows too. He over-anunciates players names, like Carlos Bel-TRON

oh, last night it was Adrian Bel-TRAY

[KingModem]

oh, last night it was Adrian Bel-TRAY

Wow, I noticed that but didn't think twice about it.

But that is a pretty picky thing to get after him about. Bob Shepard, voice of the Yankees, used to pronounce Nick Punto's name "Nick Punt-O". Maybe out of fear of backlash in the Bronx.

[Snoogans]

oh, last night it was Adrian Bel-TRAY

Wow, I noticed that but didn't think twice about it.

But that is a pretty picky thing to get after him about. Bob Shepard, voice of the Yankees, used to pronounce Nick Punto's name "Nick Punt-O". Maybe out of fear of backlash in the Bronx.

could be worse. Game was blacked out here on ESPN, so I had to watch on YES

i still havent figured out whats more annoying, Miller's BelTRON BelTRAY shit or Kays Jorge Pooooooooooosada

[joeyballsack]

The MLB Extra Innings package is giving a free preview for the first week of the season if anyone is interested.

Check it out here (http://www.indemand.com/sports/mlb/)

[Snoogans]

The MLB Extra Innings package is giving a free preview for the first week of the season if anyone is interested.

Check it out here (http://www.indemand.com/sports/mlb/)

every year i get excited for this and start watchin and then realize oh yea, we get all the teams locally that dont suck balls. Why the FUCK do I wanna sit through this fuckin Pirates Padres game again?

[KingModem]

could be worse. Game was blacked out here on ESPN, so I had to watch on YES

i still havent figured out whats more annoying, Miller's BelTRON BelTRAY shit or Kays Jorge Pooooooooooosada

Is Kay the annoying woman? YES is not present throughout the country, but I am somewhat aware of the mess that are Yankees broadcasters.

[Snoogans]

Is Kay the annoying woman? YES is not present throughout the country, but I am somewhat aware of the mess that are Yankees broadcasters.

no thats suzan Waldman. She does the games on radio with the jerkoff that yells DAHHHHHHHHHHH YANKEEEEES WIN

Michael Kay is the guy who does the play by play on TV for YES network. He also has a show on espn radio but its only on the NY station. Im not sure if there is anything besides that you would know him from

[Snoogans]

pujols is a fuckin animal

[NickyL0885]

I love the free preview week of Extra Innings. I love being able to just watch games all day, especially Dodger, Padre and Giants games.

[Snoogans]

I love the free preview week of Extra Innings. I love being able to just watch games all day, especially Dodger, Padre and Giants games.

the funny part is between espn and espn 2, all of the games I would choose to watch today are on anyway

[NickyL0885]

the funny part is between espn and espn 2, all of the games I would choose to watch today are on anyway

MLB Network is also doing 30 Games in 30 Days. Going to show each team in the league at least once. I think it starts tomorrow. MLB Network is so awesome to have, greatest thing made in a long time.

[NickyL0885]

Wow. 3 Errors by the Marlins this inning. Jeez they suck on Defense.

[joeyballsack]

There is something interesting going on for the Blue Jays in Texas.

Shawn Marcum is having a good day so far.

Edit: Busted up as soon as I hit the reply button.

[Freitag]

There is something interesting going on for the Blue Jays in Texas.

Shawn Marcum is having a good day so far.

Edit: Busted up as soon as I hit the reply button.

and you get the Michael Kay Award.

[disneyspy]

the 2 most under-rated pitchers are going today in KC,greenky vs verlander,this is baseball

[disneyspy]

holy shit verlander just showed a 90 mph slider,he now has a 4th pitch that makes batters look stupid

[KingModem]

I stumbled across a minor leaguer named Jason Heyward when I was in Florida catching a spring training game between the Braves and Pirates.

I remember telling my buddy he is going to be the next Pedro Cerrano (Major League reference).

In his major league debut, hits a 3 run HR off of Zambrano.

[TheGameHHH]

the 2 most under-rated pitchers are going today in KC,greenky vs verlander,this is baseball

neither of them are underrated. anybody who knows anything about baseball recognizes those guys as absolute studs.

[disneyspy]

neither of them are underrated. anybody who knows anything about baseball recognizes those guys as absolute studs.

if they're so rated why were others even considered for the cy young?

[disneyspy]

i hate people that go to opening day just to get the ticket stub,the seats behind the catcher in KC are empty,i dont know why but it bugs the fuck out of me

[disneyspy]

sweeeeeeet,the tigers finally have a clutch hitter,DAMON just hit a 2 RBI double for the tigers to just take the lead,thank you yankees, thank you

[disneyspy]

you have to feel sorry for grienke,he left with a 4-1 lead,its now 8-4 tigers,if he played for the yankees grienke would win 30 games

[Snoogans]

sweeeeeeet,the tigers finally have a clutch hitter,DAMON just hit a 2 RBI double for the tigers to just take the lead,thank you yankees, thank you

wow thats so pathetic to read

[NickyL0885]

Great game by the Mets today. Bay had a good day at the plate, Wright homered. Of Course we were helped by sloppy Marlins defense but hey, we'll take it.

[TripleSkeet]

Win 1 for Halladay. 24 to go.

[TheGameHHH]

if they're so rated why were others even considered for the cy young?

what does that even mean? they cant both win it, theyre in the same league. Greinke won last year.

[Barnaby Jones]

Wow!

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100405&content_id=9091930&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

[Snoogans]

Wow!

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100405&content_id=9091930&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

he should be careful if he goes to the middle east. They will kill your for all sorts of wizardry

[Dan 'Hampton]

you have to feel sorry for grienke,he left with a 4-1 lead,its now 8-4 tigers,if he played for the yankees grienke would win 30 games


Shut your piehole! They'll hear you.

[Adolf]

anyone ever have mlbtv?

couldn't watch my game due to a 'blackout'....... apparently since i live close enough to go to the game, or since i could watch it on TV, they weren't allowing me to watch it on an online service that i paid for???????

am i gonna miss every home game cuz of this? whata bag of shit.. i feel lied to

whats this blackout bullshit...... fill me in

[underdog]

anyone ever have mlbtv?

couldn't watch my game due to a 'blackout'....... apparently since i live close enough to go to the game, or since i could watch it on TV, they weren't allowing me to watch it on an online service that i paid for???????

am i gonna miss every home game cuz of this? whata bag of shit.. i feel lied to

whats this blackout bullshit...... fill me in

Anything on local television gets blacked out.

[brettmojo]

Shut your piehole! They'll hear you.
Already sent them an email.

[Adolf]

Anything on local television gets blacked out.

well then i say a revolution is in the air

fuck that.... i paid $100 for 162+ games and that's what i expect. there's no way i'm alone.. F this S up it's Ass

[Adolf]

http://www.suzannemcdonough.com/Images/0906/twins2.jpg :surrender: <<<
TC flag

*pizza rolls in oven -12 minutes

[TheGameHHH]

well then i say a revolution is in the air

fuck that.... i paid $100 for 162+ games and that's what i expect. there's no way i'm alone.. F this S up it's Ass

oh just wait till your team plays a 1pm Saturday game and Fox has Saturday baseball starting at 4pm. All games on MLB.tv are blacked out at 1pm due to Fox and their exclusive rights.

[Barnaby Jones]

I love baseball, but this doesn't look to be too promising a year in terms of upsets. I'll be very surprised if anyone besides the Phillies and the Yankees ends up in the World Series.

[Snoogans]

I love baseball, but this doesn't look to be too promising a year in terms of upsets. I'll be very surprised if anyone besides the Phillies and the Yankees ends up in the World Series.

you can tell this after 2 games?

[Barnaby Jones]

Obviously not, but these things can be further clarified as the season goes on. I don't know these things for sure, but even just after the first 11 or 12 games you start to get an idea of how the season will play out barring serious injuries. If a team goes, say, 9-2 in that time as opposed to 2-9 then you can start separating the champs from the also-rans! What a great game!

[Snoogans]

Obviously not, but these things can be further clarified as the season goes on. I don't know these things for sure, but even just after the first 11 or 12 games you start to get an idea of how the season will play out barring serious injuries. If a team goes, say, 9-2 in that time as opposed to 2-9 then you can start separating the champs from the also-rans! What a great game!

BDC? IS THAT YOU? OH HOW I MISSED THEE

[weekapaugjz]

Obviously not, but these things can be further clarified as the season goes on. I don't know these things for sure, but even just after the first 11 or 12 games you start to get an idea of how the season will play out barring serious injuries. If a team goes, say, 9-2 in that time as opposed to 2-9 then you can start separating the champs from the also-rans! What a great game!

but in the following 11 to 12 games the same team that went 9-2 could go 2-9 and vice versa. you can't start ruling out teams until much further into the season.

[Barnaby Jones]

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but maybe we can put aside the differences we've had through our love of this great game? We've got a long season ahead!

[Snoogans]

but in the following 11 to 12 games the same team that went 9-2 could go 2-9 and vice versa. you can't start ruling out teams until much further into the season.

didnt you read the soldiers thread? i dont know if you wanna start this. this guy will just turn into some bitchy queer

[weekapaugjz]

We've got a long season ahead!

didn't you just rule out everybody but the yanks and the phils?

[weekapaugjz]

didnt you read the soldiers thread? i dont know if you wanna start this. this guy will just turn into some bitchy queer

i just caught the last page and some crying. too many wordy posts for me.

[Barnaby Jones]

I do think they're the most likely World Series teams, but with baseball you never know how things can end up!

[weekapaugjz]

I do think they're the most likely World Series teams, but with baseball you never know how things can end up!

holy fucking contradictions.

[Barnaby Jones]

I'm pulling for the Orioles to make some waves!

[A.J.]

I'm pulling for the Orioles to make some waves!

Looks like Mikeyboy has a new friend.

[KingModem]

http://www.suzannemcdonough.com/Images/0906/twins2.jpg :surrender: <<<
TC flag

*pizza rolls in oven -12 minutes

Thanks for the 2006 memory :)

[Adolf]

http://page3.gotdns.com/images/articles/mlb-min-95.gif
http://media.freeola.com/images/user-images/8618/horns.jpg

[Snoogans]

http://page3.gotdns.com/images/articles/mlb-min-95.gif
http://media.freeola.com/images/user-images/8618/horns.jpg

so you are like finger fuckin the twins in the ass?

i dont get it

[Adolf]

you're a dumbass and that wasn't funny at all on any level


NEXT

[Pestz4Evah]

I want Ramon Ortiz murdered, and Joe Torre & Ned Colletti punished for putting him on the team.

[epo]

so you are like finger fuckin the twins in the ass?

i dont get it

Well, I've heard not only are the Minnesota Twins...but all of their fans are faggolas, so it would make sense.

[disneyspy]

Well, I've heard not only are the Minnesota Twins...but all of their fans are faggolas, so it would make sense.

i heard they wanted to pick up randy johnson so their fans could put up signs that said" we love the big unit and the twins" friggin queersickles

[Snoogans]

Well, I've heard not only are the Minnesota Twins...but all of their fans are faggolas, so it would make sense.

come on, epo. you heard the man. it wasnt funny on any level

[disneyspy]

come on, epo. you heard the man. it wasnt funny on any level

how can you take the word of someone that likes to finger bang men in the ass? or adolph?

[KnoxHarrington]

Fuckin' love this ump.

Umpire Joe West blasted the Yankees and Red Sox just before Wednesday's game, accusing the two clubs of being "pathetic and embarrassing" in dragging the pace of games and refusing to work with umpires. The two teams, notorious for the slow tempo of their games, were denied some timeouts in the batter's box by home plate umpire Angel Hernandez during Tuesday night's 6-4 Yankees victory. "They're the two clubs that don't try to pick up the pace," said West, chief of the umpiring crew that worked the three-game series in Boston. He was the home plate umpire Sunday. "They're two of the best teams in baseball. Why are they playing the slowest? "It's pathetic and embarrassing. They take too long to play."

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/176610-umpire-blasts-pathetic-yankees-red-sox?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

Yeah, just about any game either of these two are in is going to turn into a 3 1/2 hour endurance test. Especially when they play each other.

Another reason why American League games are usually garbage.

[Snoogans]

Fuckin' love this ump.



http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/176610-umpire-blasts-pathetic-yankees-red-sox?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

Yeah, just about any game either of these two are in is going to turn into a 3 1/2 hour endurance test. Especially when they play each other.

Another reason why American League games are usually so much more fun to watch than shitty NL games that end so fast cause pitchers cant hit and sac bunts are gay.

agreed

[TjM]

Joe West is a hotheaded asshole. Fuck him! (He has a point but he's one of those umps who always tries to be part of the story)

Oh and fuck you and your NL bullshit. Oh look here comes 7,8,9 groundout, pop out, and the pitcher strikes out. What fucking exciting times

[Snoogans]

Joe West is a hotheaded asshole. Fuck him! (He has a point but he's one of those umps who always tries to be part of the story)

Oh and fuck you and your NL bullshit. Oh look here comes 7,8,9 groundout, pop out, and the pitcher strikes out. What fucking exciting times

no no no. the best is when the 8 hitter comes up with none on and 2 outs and we gotta wait while they throw 4 balls in a row 5 feet outside, and then after we waited for that, we get to see.........the pitcher hit



abooooooooo

[foodcourtdruide]

no no no. the best is when the 8 hitter comes up with none on and 2 outs and we gotta wait while they throw 4 balls in a row 5 feet outside, and then after we waited for that, we get to see.........the pitcher hit



abooooooooo

I'm sorry if NL ball requires thinking! AL team rosters should be 23 players.

[TjM]

I'm sorry if NL ball requires thinking! AL team rosters should be 23 players.

Sorry AL ball requires getting actual hitters out instead of freebies.

[KingModem]

Well, I've heard not only are the Minnesota Twins...but all of their fans are faggolas, so it would make sense.

The Brewers are fags. So there.

[underdog]

The Brewers are fags. So there.

Finally something we can all agree on.

[epo]

The Brewers are fags. So there.

Possibly, but we weren't dumb enough to build an open-air stadium in the upper midwest without a retractable roof.

Smart move Twins.

[KingModem]

Possibly, but we weren't dumb enough to build an open-air stadium in the upper midwest without a retractable roof.

Smart move Twins.

25,000 Target Field Season Ticket Holders. :tongue:

[foodcourtdruide]

Sorry AL ball requires getting actual hitters out instead of freebies.

He would like a constitutional amendment outlawing the designated hitter:

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Bull_Durham_2(1).png

[disneyspy]

25,000 Target Field Season Ticket Holders. :tongue:

theres so many cuz of the 7th inning finger banging ass stretch

[Fallon]

Fuckin' love this ump.



http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/176610-umpire-blasts-pathetic-yankees-red-sox?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

Yeah, just about any game either of these two are in is going to turn into a 3 1/2 hour endurance test. Especially when they play each other.

Another reason why American League games are usually garbage.

He should have said this after game one or two. Last nights game went 10 innings and was only 3:21.

I agree that catchers shouldn't be able to go to the mound more than once an inning though.

[KnoxHarrington]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/04/09/alg_baseball_giants.jpg

Nice job Giants

[TripleSkeet]

Oh and fuck you and your NL bullshit. Oh look here comes 7,8,9 groundout, pop out, and the pitcher strikes out. What fucking exciting times

No way. The strategy of the NL is what makes baseball great. Plus pitchers that throw at players should be mandated to make plate appearances.

[epo]

no no no. the best is when the 8 hitter comes up with none on and 2 outs and we gotta wait while they throw 4 balls in a row 5 feet outside, and then after we waited for that, we get to see.........the pitcher hitabooooooooo Its the best after David Ortiz hits a Homer, when the inning is over...when David grabs his glove...err, wait. If you can't play the field, you aren't a baseball player!

[Snoogans]

Its the best after David Ortiz hits a Homer, when the inning is over...when David grabs his glove...err, wait. If you can't play the field, you aren't a baseball player!

what homers?

[HBox]

I've always thought that making the pitcher bat is akin to making kickers play LB in the NFL.

[KingModem]

I've always thought that making the pitcher bat is akin to making kickers play LB in the NFL.

Apples vs Oranges.

[KnoxHarrington]

I've always thought that making the pitcher bat is akin to making kickers play LB in the NFL.

One of the most hilarious things in any football game is when a runner has broken free on a kickoff or punt return, and the kicker/punter has to attempt to tackle him.

[underdog]

One of the most hilarious things in any football game is when a runner has broken free on a kickoff or punt return, and the kicker/punter has to attempt to tackle him.

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[spoon]

yeah baseball!

How do they ever win!? Fuck off. Bye bye Tampa for another 8 years. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Carl-Crawford-may-be-destined-to-become-a-New-York-Yankee-040910)

[brettmojo]

yeah baseball!

How do they ever win!? Fuck off. Bye bye Tampa for another 8 years. (http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Carl-Crawford-may-be-destined-to-become-a-New-York-Yankee-040910)
http://beachweasel.com/PeerMediators/SimpsonsMr.Burns.gif

[HBox]

Apples vs Oranges.

How? It's asking a player to do something that they clearly unqualified to do. Not in any other sport would someone be thrown into doing something they are completely unequipped to do and act as if that is somehow beneficial to the game.

[KingModem]

How? It's asking a player to do something that they clearly unqualified to do. Not in any other sport would someone be thrown into doing something they are completely unequipped to do and act as if that is somehow beneficial to the game.

Everybody else has to hit and field.

The same argument could be made for the DH. Why should he have to play in the field when he is only equipped to hit. Does that make sense?

[foodcourtdruide]

Everybody else has to hit and field.

The same argument could be made for the DH. Why should he have to play in the field when he is only equipped to hit. Does that make sense?

Yes it does, and furthermore, where is it written that pitchers should not be equipped to hit?

[cougarjake13]

I've always thought that making the pitcher bat is akin to making kickers play LB in the NFL.

no fucking way is that close



a kicker isnt paying lb all his life and then just stops when he reaches the nfl



a pitcher is batting all throughout lil league, high school, college, and the minors and only doesnt bat if he plays for an AL team, somewhere along the way someone notices hes got an arm and less focus is put on batting but he still does it

[brettmojo]

I thought all minor league teams had the DH now? Isn't just the NL that doesn't?

[Mitch&Murray]

The new Twins park look very nice

[KnoxHarrington]

Chan Ho Park on why his season has started off so badly:

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Well, he's honest.

[spoon]

Chan Ho Park on why his season has started off so badly:

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Well, he's honest.

I see ur Ho Park and raise you FRASOR!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OvmuvHN8HnM/SeOzZ9LwZDI/AAAAAAAAA90/hqg4y771LwU/s400/golden+boy.jpg

:wallbash::flush:

[spoon]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_N44dQyw_rO0/S23GSPP3VGI/AAAAAAAABS0/7hNOhzdj7WA/S1600-R/djfshitty.jpg

[K.C.]

http://bluejays.gearupforsports.com/blog/files/2010/02/Ricky-Romero1.jpg

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I love this guy...drafted him in fantasy this year...

[spoon]

http://bluejays.gearupforsports.com/blog/files/2010/02/Ricky-Romero1.jpg

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I love this guy...drafted him in fantasy this year...

Jinxy bastard!

[Pestz4Evah]

embarrassing:

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[spoon]

embarrassing:

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AwaSuYZ6svQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AwaSuYZ6svQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x234900&color2=0x4e9e00" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

Why would this be any more embarrassing then his norm?

[Pestz4Evah]

I meant for the Marlins.

But I guess it isn't more embarrassing then their norm, either.

[spoon]

God is mad at us both now. Ohyahhhhh!

[KnoxHarrington]

Why would this be any more embarrassing then his norm?

It could be a test of your musical taste to see how far you make it into this shit. I bailed after 19 seconds.

[KingModem]

It could be a test of your musical taste to see how far you make it into this shit. I bailed after 19 seconds.

Does anyone have FSN for their game carrier in their market? I believe that Fox Sports had a "local band" do a tribute song for their each team. Scott Stapp for So Florida. GB Leighton for FSN North (Twins) (http://www.foxsportsnorth.com/pages/video/?PID=xRjzMShP7KoqTBe1aKdeeJPPlTKKMSNy).

Both are EQUALLY terrible.

Anyone else have one?

[Barnaby Jones]

...but not as horrible as the song that the Blessed Union of Souls wrote for the Reds!

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Barf!

[spoon]

It could be a test of your musical taste to see how far you make it into this shit. I bailed after 19 seconds.

That's awseome, I made it through to the marlins soar part then CLICK.

[brettmojo]

Looks like the Mets just might win this one.

[spoon]

Love the pitching lines for the position players the Cards have put out there!

This game is crazy.

[spoon]

wow mets wow

[NickyL0885]

Love the pitching lines for the position players the Cards have put out there!

This game is crazy.

OMG! This game won't end!!!! This is like torture!!

[spoon]

OMG! This game won't end!!!! This is like torture!!

Can the Mets lose this again?

[romanwarhelmet]

a's are doing well this season

when is it not too early to have legitimate hope that this isnt just early season fluke?