Blackberry comparison question for Blackberry owners.

[Death Metal Moe]

My Verizon contract is up at the end of this month so I get my "New Every 2" Deal with them where I can purchase a new phone from them at that initial low price with a resigning. So now that I've enjoyed the Samsung Alias (it had some wack model number when I bought it) I've been considering going with a higher grade phone now.

I have narrowed it down to 2 contenders, but I'd greatly appreciate ANY feedback about other Blackberry models or even other companies' phones. But just to let you know I'm not going with any other carrier, Verizon is the ONLY carrier that gets a lot of service up new my friend's house in Pennsylvania and I need that. So no iPhone for me because I've seen the service my friend got up there. He didn't have a signal for the entire time we were in PA, so fuck that.

My choices right now are between the Storm 9530 and the Tour 9630. For some reason the Storm is cheaper than the Tour and I'd like to know why, I don't seen an obvious reason in the reviews I've been reading.

I also don't see Wi-Fi on either of them. One thing I really like about my buddy's iPhone is he can use a Wi-Fi signal to get on the net which is sweet. From what I've read neither the Tour nor the Storm has the ability to do that. That kinda sucks balls. That could really come in handy on the road. A lot of your larger truck stops and other rest stops have Wi-Fi available and I could see myself using it to get directions or send E-mails on while going to shows with my band. Do any Verizon users have a phone that can do that? I'd really like that.

So that's about it. Thanks.

[biggestmexi]

i havent read this yet. cept for the first part about verizon.

i might wait for the iphone to come to verizon and wait for verizon you have a comparable deal to the new one at sprint w/unlimited data for super cheap.

Ill read when im not busy.

HA

and i need a new phone and i get the discount as well.

[underdog]

My old Curve had wi-fi, but my storm does not.

And the Storm is probably cheaper because the new models are coming out soon (or already came out, I'm not sure).

I love my blackberry half the time, hate it the other half. I have to take the battery out to reset it at least three times a week (I had to do this with my curve, too), the radio will just shut off at random times, too.

[Death Metal Moe]

My old Curve had wi-fi, but my storm does not.

And the Storm is probably cheaper because the new models are coming out soon (or already came out, I'm not sure).

I love my blackberry half the time, hate it the other half. I have to take the battery out to reset it at least three times a week (I had to do this with my curve, too), the radio will just shut off at random times, too.

Yea, as I was just doing more Google searches for the Blackberry Storm it auto suggested "2" suddenly, so I found out that the Storm 2 with rumored Wi-Fi is also rumored due out at the end of October. So you are right, they're trying to move their old stock of Storms to bring in the new ones. My actual 2 year date is the 27th so it may end up working out for me. I hate getting the initial release of anything but I'll consider living with the hassle of updates and bugs if it has working Wi-Fi.

[Death Metal Moe]

i havent read this yet. cept for the first part about verizon.

i might wait for the iphone to come to verizon and wait for verizon you have a comparable deal to the new one at sprint w/unlimited data for super cheap.

Ill read when im not busy.

HA

and i need a new phone and i get the discount as well.

Well, when you get home and read this you will see I'm not even considering switching from Verizon, sorry. I love gadgets and the iPhone looks nice but I just can't roll with the service. AT&T just don't cut it.

[biggestmexi]

Well, when you get home and read this you will see I'm not even considering switching from Verizon, sorry. I love gadgets and the iPhone looks nice but I just can't roll with the service. AT&T just don't cut it.

NO NO NO NO NONO! thats not what im saying.

last month or so i saw the Iphone will be on Verizon service!!!

[underdog]

NO NO NO NO NONO! thats not what im saying.

last month or so i saw the Iphone will be on Verizon service!!!

There have been rumors of an iphone on verizon forever.

[biggestmexi]

There have been rumors of an iphone on verizon forever.

D'Oh.

With plenty of heat on AT&T this past year, hopes have been running high for Apple to share its iPhone with Verizon. However, an analyst does not foresee a Verizon iPhone arriving anytime soon.

That’s because Verizon recently announced a partnership with Google to offer two new Google Android-powered handsets this year. That would suggest Verizon’s near-term direction is with Android, said Scott Ellison, an IDC analyst, in a ComputerWorld article.

Ellison added that there’s no sign Apple is ready to share its iPhone with another carrier. Also, three IDC analysts said Verizon probably won’t receive the iPhone until it converts to its fourth-generation Long Term Evolution (LTE) network.

Several months ago, some analysts speculated the iPhone would be shared with the Verizon network by 2010. Many sources have claimed AT&T’s exclusive contract with Apple ends next year, though this remains unconfirmed. Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg told The Wall Street Journal that Apple is more likely to bring the iPhone to Verizon once the telecom company deploys its LTE network. He explained the majority of the wireless industry plans to transition to LTE in the next few years, and it would then make sense for Apple to bring Verizon on board. Verizon has said it is rolling out LTE next year.

Of course, cellular networks take several years to deploy and optimize, so we didn’t believe Verizon would get the iPhone as soon as it began rolling out LTE. Thus, IDC’s reasoning is plausible. Meanwhile, iPhone owners disgruntled with AT&T, or Verizon customers eagerly awaiting the iPhone to land on their network, can keep wishing for the day Apple ends its exclusive relationship with AT&T.

[Goatweed]

the Tour is as I understand it just n updated Bold for Verizon - really nice phone but not strong with multimedia - which Berries generally aren't, per say. It does not have Wifi.

The any-day-now-to-be-released Storm 2 is what the Sotrm 1 should have been (based on what most blogs/Engadget have posted thus far). It's essentially RIM's answer to the iphone and while it might not be a "killer", it's shaping up to be a fine mobile for people on Verizon not wanting to move to Shit-T&T just to have a trendy phone. It will have Wifi, full touch screen and embedded 2GB memory with a preloaded 16GB memory card. My NE2 is up in January but I'm hoping with a face to face visit in-store they'll let me upgrade to one of these and apply my credits (they did that last time with my current 8330 Curve).

I think you have a month to return the phone if you dont like it, so worse case you get it, it sucks, you return it and go back on your current phone - but I think RIM has a solid performer with the Storm 2. If you prefer something less fancy they'll be rolling out a Curve 2 as well but I havent read up much about them since I've pretty much focused on the Storm 2.

I love my 2 year old curve but you can't load too much stuff on it, otherwise the resources choke.

[Furtherman]

I have a Blackberry Tour and it does have internet service that I'm really happy with... It's a cool phone all around. I can't make any comparisons through because it's only the second phone I've ever had.

[Goatweed]

Here's a link to a blog from a fairly-well known guy in the Berry community - he posts a lot of leaked videos and some of his own where he tests and compares models. Many of his clips get pulled from Youtube but he's been providing downloads of the videos now.

http://www.salomondrin.net/

[Death Metal Moe]

the Tour is as I understand it just n updated Bold for Verizon - really nice phone but not strong with multimedia - which Berries generally aren't, per say. It does not have Wifi.

The any-day-now-to-be-released Storm 2 is what the Sotrm 1 should have been (based on what most blogs/Engadget have posted thus far). It's essentially RIM's answer to the iphone and while it might not be a "killer", it's shaping up to be a fine mobile for people on Verizon not wanting to move to Shit-T&T just to have a trendy phone. It will have Wifi, full touch screen and embedded 2GB memory with a preloaded 16GB memory card. My NE2 is up in January but I'm hoping with a face to face visit in-store they'll let me upgrade to one of these and apply my credits (they did that last time with my current 8330 Curve).

I think you have a month to return the phone if you dont like it, so worse case you get it, it sucks, you return it and go back on your current phone - but I think RIM has a solid performer with the Storm 2. If you prefer something less fancy they'll be rolling out a Curve 2 as well but I havent read up much about them since I've pretty much focused on the Storm 2.

I love my 2 year old curve but you can't load too much stuff on it, otherwise the resources choke.

Thank you.

[Death Metal Moe]

I have a Blackberry Tour and it does have internet service that I'm really happy with... It's a cool phone all around. I can't make any comparisons through because it's only the second phone I've ever had.

Oh I'm sure the Pay internet is great. I'm probably not going to use that much and don't plan to get the full service, that's kinda pricey. I was really going to use it as a phone and use Wi-Fi points for internet at need. Kinda ghetto but kinda affordable.

[Goatweed]

Oh I'm sure the Pay internet is great. I'm probably not going to use that much and don't plan to get the full service, that's kinda pricey. I was really going to use it as a phone and use Wi-Fi points for internet at need. Kinda ghetto but kinda affordable.As far as I know, Verizon requires a data plan for all blackberries so if you get one you'll probably need it - it sucks but on the flip side it's well worth it for the speeds IMO.

[drjoek]

My son has a Samsung Omnia
we have verizon for our service provider. It is essentially an iPhone knockoff it has WiFi and all the rest. He has been very pleased with it and I think its about 100 with the every 2 years thing

[mikeyboy]

As far as I know, Verizon requires a data plan for all blackberries so if you get one you'll probably need it - it sucks but on the flip side it's well worth it for the speeds IMO.

Yep. I tried to give my wife my old Blackberry just to use as a phone, and they wouldn't let me activate it without a data plan.

[Death Metal Moe]

As far as I know, Verizon requires a data plan for all blackberries so if you get one you'll probably need it - it sucks but on the flip side it's well worth it for the speeds IMO.

I saw their Blackberry plans and a decent one isn't much more than I'm paying now for just voice with the 5 Friends and Family. So although price is a concern it's not a deal breaker right now.

[topless_mike]

i just got my bb 8900, love it.
if there is a wifi signal that i can access, my phone switches over (i have to set it up the first time manually) and runs all interwebz AND phone calls over the wifi, which if im correct, does not eat into your minutes. then again, my bb is through t-mobile, which blows goats here in the states.

[Death Metal Moe]

My son has a Samsung Omnia
we have verizon for our service provider. It is essentially an iPhone knockoff it has WiFi and all the rest. He has been very pleased with it and I think its about 100 with the every 2 years thing

That is another phone I saw and considered. I really want to actually touch that one in the store too. I plan to go into the Verizon store I got my original contact at and see what they can do for me before I do anything. Then I'll go back on the website and look for their deals, then make a decision.

The Storm 2 is high on my list though. Wifi is a possible deal breaker though. If I can get a phone with a full web browser and Wifi in it I won't have to take my netbook with me on the road as much.

[Death Metal Moe]

i just got my bb 8900, love it.
if there is a wifi signal that i can access, my phone switches over (i have to set it up the first time manually) and runs all interwebz AND phone calls over the wifi, which if im correct, does not eat into your minutes. then again, my bb is through t-mobile, which blows goats here in the states.

I don't see the 8900 available on the website for Verizon.

[topless_mike]

I don't see the 8900 available on the website for Verizon.

i know. its through t-mobile.

[jennysmurf]

I don't have too much to add, but I have the storm. I have my email linked to it, and pay for the internet service (which I noticed you didn't really want to do) and it really comes in handy when I'm not able to get to a computer. I was in the hospital with a super-dee-duper broken wrist and was able to keep evryone updated through email and facebook using my blackberry. I liked that because I didn't feel like talking to a bunch of people. That being said, I'd wait for the new version. I also get great service with Verizon.

[Death Metal Moe]

i know. its through t-mobile.

OH, well I didn't get high marks on the SATs in the reading retention portion, so thanks for bringing up a painful memory from my youth.

[Death Metal Moe]

I don't have too much to add, but I have the storm. I have my email linked to it, and pay for the internet service (which I noticed you didn't really want to do) and it really comes in handy when I'm not able to get to a computer. I was in the hospital with a super-dee-duper broken wrist and was able to keep evryone updated through email and facebook using my blackberry. I liked that because I didn't feel like talking to a bunch of people. That being said, I'd wait for the new version. I also get great service with Verizon.

So you have the Storm and seems you generally like it. Do you find the on screen keyboard annoying? I've heard that the fact that you have to "click" each key instead of just quickly tapping the screen gets annoying. Is that true? Any other little things about it you don't like? Just curious, I'm sure they're going to fix a few bugs on their new one and cause a few too but the WiFi thing is really something I want to get. I'm not opposed to the wireless internet, I'll ask the Verizon store about a few different plans but right now I'm probably gonna go budget and think about turning up my access when I get employed again.

[instrument]

This threads scary.

Yes you have to have the data plan, and with an edge connection you'll find internet browsing plenty fast, and sending receiving emails as well.

The new curves should be at vzw soon, think tour with less mp camera, lower resolution screen, and a trackpad instead of ball.

The new storm is going to have 4 contact points on the screen instead of the one it presently has.

The os is basically the same, so the decision between the tour and storm 2 will be your typing preferences.

If you're looking for more of a media device you might want to look at the android phones, motorolla has a couple due out soon.

I'm a bb user but I'm going to take a good long look at the pre and the new android phones, those are really the only other competition (to me)

[sr71blackbird]

Moe, go with the Tour. Its a lot easier to type on and has most of the same features. I have the Bold and I wish it was a bit smaller. If this was around when I was shopping them, I would have picked it over the Bold. This has a better camera than mine too. You will like it.
Weird, because I remember maybe 2 years ago when you didnt even have a cell phone, now look at you! Shopping for the best there is! :)
Know what I did? I also got a iPod Touch and hooked it up with my wireless router and its an awesome 1-2 combo.

[jennysmurf]

So you have the Storm and seems you generally like it. Do you find the on screen keyboard annoying? I've heard that the fact that you have to "click" each key instead of just quickly tapping the screen gets annoying. Is that true? Any other little things about it you don't like? Just curious, I'm sure they're going to fix a few bugs on their new one and cause a few too but the WiFi thing is really something I want to get. I'm not opposed to the wireless internet, I'll ask the Verizon store about a few different plans but right now I'm probably gonna go budget and think about turning up my access when I get employed again.

I like it, although the typing took a bit of getting used to. Now, I don't even think about it. It annoys alot of people though, so I'm sure that's one of the things they'll work on. I'm not tech savvy at all, so I had to go in periodically and ask questions about dumb stuff. I haven't had any trouble with it, other than having no idea how to work it when I first got it. It's pretty user-friendly. Hotmail requires you to enter your info every 30 days to keep receiving emails on your phone, but I had no idea. I took it in to Verizon, and they had no idea either and took about an hour to figure it out. Can't blame them though, that was a hotmail issue. I'm really not much help am I? :wacko:

[Death Metal Moe]

Moe, go with the Tour. Its a lot easier to type on and has most of the same features. I have the Bold and I wish it was a bit smaller. If this was around when I was shopping them, I would have picked it over the Bold. This has a better camera than mine too. You will like it.
Weird, because I remember maybe 2 years ago when you didnt even have a cell phone, now look at you! Shopping for the best there is! :)
Know what I did? I also got a iPod Touch and hooked it up with my wireless router and its an awesome 1-2 combo.

Yea things change quick. I was rolling with a tracfone 2 years ago, now I'm looking for a Blackberry and data plan.

I like the Tour's look and actual buttons but if I can wait for the Storm 2 I think I'm gonna. I want to touch all of them in store.

[Death Metal Moe]

This threads scary.

Yes you have to have the data plan, and with an edge connection you'll find internet browsing plenty fast, and sending receiving emails as well.

The new curves should be at vzw soon, think tour with less mp camera, lower resolution screen, and a trackpad instead of ball.

The new storm is going to have 4 contact points on the screen instead of the one it presently has.

The os is basically the same, so the decision between the tour and storm 2 will be your typing preferences.

If you're looking for more of a media device you might want to look at the android phones, motorolla has a couple due out soon.

I'm a bb user but I'm going to take a good long look at the pre and the new android phones, those are really the only other competition (to me)

Why are you scared by this thread? Just trying to get information before I buy something.

I'm not switching providers so the Pre is out. It looks nice but I don't give a fuck how nice the phone is if I don't get service.

[sr71blackbird]

What's cool about having the iPod touch along with the Blackberry is you can get a feel for what its like to have a touch screen without the expensive commitment, plus be able to play game and have your music and an alternate organizer and browser. As a browser, the ipod blows the Blackberry out of the water, as long as you are in a wifi area. If I had to rely on my Blackberry for the web I would hang myself. Its okay, but they are slow. But typing on it is much better and its tough and user friendly and stable.

[instrument]

The pre is coming to vzw, reps were sent for training last month.

The thread scares me for the amount of mis-info.

All the info I gave you is about vzw phones...either present or coming.

And by the storm2 have 4 points of contact I mean that right now the storm has one which is right in the middle of the phone..

The new one will have four, which will make typing on it a lot easier. Think of it right now as if every key on your keyboard didn't have its own click point but shared one in the middle.

[Death Metal Moe]

What's cool about having the iPod touch along with the Blackberry is you can get a feel for what its like to have a touch screen without the expensive commitment, plus be able to play game and have your music and an alternate organizer and browser. As a browser, the ipod blows the Blackberry out of the water, as long as you are in a wifi area. If I had to rely on my Blackberry for the web I would hang myself. Its okay, but they are slow. But typing on it is much better and its tough and user friendly and stable.

I understand your point bro, but I just spent money earlier this year on a 120gig iPod Classic so I'm really not in the market for another iPod for at least the 2 years of warranty I now have. The iPod Touches look very nice but none of them yet had the amout of storate I was looking for either. I'm sure they will fix that eventually.

[Death Metal Moe]

The pre is coming to vzw, reps were sent for training last month.

The thread scares me for the amount of mis-info.

All the info I gave you is about vzw phones...either present or coming.

And by the storm2 have 4 points of contact I mean that right now the storm has one which is right in the middle of the phone..

The new one will have four, which will make typing on it a lot easier. Think of it right now as if every key on your keyboard didn't have its own click point but shared one in the middle.

I understand what you mean. The 4 points will make the touch screen far more responsive and sensitive. That's what I'm looking for, improvements over the Storm 1. I'm going to the Verizon store today and looking around, asking some questions and just feeling phones.

[instrument]

I'll second his comments on the browser, if you're using the phone on the road a lot iand want a good mobile browser the bb's just doesn't compare to mobile safari.

Using opera mini helps a lot though its still not close.

That's the main reason I'm considering a different platform, unless the new opera is a lot better I just need a better mobile browser. And carrying both an ipod and a phone just doesn't make much sense to me.

Either way mo just wait it out, at least for the storm 2. But I'm gonna have to wait for the hero/motorolla android devices till I make my choice...which is hard cause I qualify for a full discount every 10 months...and I'm at 12 months.

[biggestmexi]

is it a necessity that its a BB?

http://www.mobiledia.com/phones/htc/imagio.html

http://www.mobiledia.com/phones/samsung/omnia-2.html

ones that i found interesting.

[sr71blackbird]

Most (not all) the people I know with Blackberry Storms did not like them and returned them. Hopefully that more point thing helps, but the touch screen scares most people I know. I think the technology is just not perfected yet.
I'm not saying the Bold I have is perfect either mind you. I'm not 100% pleased with the performace of this track ball. It could be improved.

[RhinoinMN]

is it a necessity that its a BB?

http://www.mobiledia.com/phones/htc/imagio.html

http://www.mobiledia.com/phones/samsung/omnia-2.html

ones that i found interesting.

For what it is worth I have an HTC Touch Pro which operates on Windows mobile 6.5 as well. There is not shit for apps for windows mobile phones. Otherwise the phone is pretty good.

[Death Metal Moe]

Having never used "apps" I'm not really concerned with them. I'd totally pirate them anyway, I don't pay for shit. Fuck that.

[RhinoinMN]

Having never used "apps" I'm not really concerned with them. I'd totally pirate them anyway, I don't pay for shit. Fuck that.

I don't pay for them either, but there really isn't much out there. If you aren't concerned with that, HTC is decent.

[biggestmexi]

im going to wait for the HTC HD2 seems like.
apparently its only going to be released in Europe. I just noticed the address.
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/hd2/specification.html

Internet
Browser: Opera Mobile™
3G:
Up to 7.2 Mbps download speed
Up to 2 Mbps upload speed
GPRS: Up to 114 kbps download speed
EDGE: Up to 560 kbps download speed
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g

Tethering:

Internet Sharing through USB or Bluetooth
Wi-Fi Router



FUCK MY ASS

[RhinoinMN]

im going to wait for the HTC HD2 seems like.

http://www.htc.com/europe/product/hd2/specification.html

Internet
Browser: Opera Mobile™
3G:
Up to 7.2 Mbps download speed
Up to 2 Mbps upload speed
GPRS: Up to 114 kbps download speed
EDGE: Up to 560 kbps download speed
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g

Tethering:

Internet Sharing through USB or Bluetooth
Wi-Fi Router




One thing that one has that is different from others is the standard 3.5mm jack.

The others have a mini usb with and adapter cord which is a pain in the ass.

[biggestmexi]

One thing that one has that is different from others is the standard 3.5mm jack.

The others have a mini usb with and adapter cord which is a pain in the ass.

my shit phone now is like that but it STILL came with only a 2.5mm plug.

UGH. i never even tried.

[biggestmexi]

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-gets-official-hands-on-video-0659275/


god damnit never mind.

i suppose it will come to US but might not be on Verizon.

being as they just released the amigo or whatever.

[biggestmexi]

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd2-gets-official-hands-on-video-0659275/


god damnit never mind.

i suppose it will come to US but might not be on Verizon.

being as they just released the amigo or whatever.

oops i meant edit oh well

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/htc-hd2-hands-on-and-impressions-on-video/

[underdog]

Most (not all) the people I know with Blackberry Storms did not like them and returned them. Hopefully that more point thing helps, but the touch screen scares most people I know. I think the technology is just not perfected yet.
I'm not saying the Bold I have is perfect either mind you. I'm not 100% pleased with the performace of this track ball. It could be improved.

From what I understand, it's a 50/50 split. You either hate the phone and return it within 2 weeks or you love it.

[JustJon]

I had the Verizon Tour for about 3 weeks. I got rid of it yesterday because there's a flaw with the rollerball. It doesn't scroll left and right. It's a defect with the Tour, as my post-purchase research found. There's supposed to be a firmware fix for it at the end of the month, but we'll see what happens.

I am holding out for the Storm 2, which should also be coming out at the end of the month.

[biggestmexi]

I am holding out for the Storm 2, which should also be coming out at the end of the month.

storm 2 (9530): stinks compared the the hd2
you cant even tether with it.

[instrument]

You can tether bb's at verizon as long as you pay for it, more miss-info in the thread.

[JustJon]

storm 2 (9530): stinks compared the the hd2
you cant even tether with it.

If I really cared about tethering, I'd get the Mifi. I want a phone.

[JustJon]

You can tether bb's at verizon as long as you pay for it, more miss-info in the thread.

True, the Tour I had offered tethering for an additional $10 a month.

[biggestmexi]

You can tether bb's at verizon as long as you pay for it, more miss-info in the thread.

terribly sorry i dont see that option on verizons site.

and i didnt read anywhere where the BB could tether..

so mr verizon....does it cost more for a HTC to be thethered?

[biggestmexi]

I want a phone.

well then get a phone not a BB

[biggestmexi]

Mobile Broadband Connect - 1st Month Free, $15/month thereafter
Turn your BlackBerry® or PDA/Smartphone into your wireless modem
5 GB($0.05/MB Overage) of data access for high-speed wireless Internet access! With Mobile Broadband Connect, connect to the Internet remotely using your device.


found it

[instrument]

I'm not mr verizon, just a literate consumer who really hates the amount of bad info that's given to people like moe on websites.

And the initial tours had some quality issues (one being dirt behind the screen) and the tracknall issues....which suck cause the tb isn't user servicable anymore.

And I'm used to your bad info in the apple threads dude, so don't cop the attitude with me.

[Death Metal Moe]

Well I went to the Verizon store, and I have to say I am not "wowed" by the Blackberry devices. The trackballs on these things aren't as responsive as I was hoping. The buttons on the Tour are fucking small. I can feel the single click point in the middle of the screen that instrument was talking about, the typing wasn't hard at all and I know I'll get used to it.

I was a little pissed. The guy who was assigned to me wasn't rude at all, I just got this feeling that once he realized I wasn't actually due for my "New every 2" until the 27th of this month and that I was very interested in waiting for the Storm 2, he kinda washed his hands of me. I got "Well there's all our Blackberry phones over there, let me know if you need anything." OK. Thanks douche. I'm gonna stick with Verizon but I don't have to give that store my business again.

So that's about it. The only Blackberry that kinda wowed me was the Pearl Flip, and just because you get a lot of the Blackberry shit in such a small phone, but I understand that means limited performance and storage I'm sure.

After my visit if I HAD to get one today I'd probably go with the Tour but I think I'm gonna hold out for the Storm 2.

[biggestmexi]

I'm not mr verizon, just a literate consumer who really hates the amount of bad info that's given to people like moe on websites.

And the initial tours had some quality issues (one being dirt behind the screen) and the tracknall issues....which suck cause the tb isn't user servicable anymore.

And I'm used to your bad info in the apple threads dude, so don't cop the attitude with me.

lol. your funny mr verizon.

and i dont spew bad info in apple threads.

its just apple does it to itself.

but you should really stay on topic.

Good luck Moe.

and let me know how that turn out for ya

[Death Metal Moe]

lol. your funny mr verizon.

and i dont spew bad info in apple threads.

its just apple does it to itself.

but you should really stay on topic.

Good luck Moe.

and let me know how that turn out for ya

Thanks. My move now is just to kinda wait a little for the Storm 2 I think, so I'm not gonna have much to say until then.

[biggestmexi]

Thanks. My move now is just to kinda wait a little for the Storm 2 I think, so I'm not gonna have much to say until then.

im guessing by this time next year i still wont have either of them. :laugh:

[sr71blackbird]

I am a AT&T guy, and the reason I left Verizon was because of what you said Moe. I hate being assigned a person and having to wait on them, and then once you are lucky enough to get them to yourself, if they sense you arent buying, they toss you to the wind. Fuck Verizon. Their phones have most of the phones features suppressed and the service sucks worse than anything I have experienced. Not saying that AT&T doesnt have its issues, but you dont have nearly the bullshit with Verizon. My initial cells were all with Verizon and I swore by them too, but towards the end, they forced me out with their games and lack of caring for people. In the Hicksville store, if you want to get a phone, you better take a fucking day off work! You will be there for hours and hours.

[SatCam]

I am a AT&T guy, and the reason I left Verizon was because of what you said Moe. I hate being assigned a person and having to wait on them, and then once you are lucky enough to get them to yourself, if they sense you arent buying, they toss you to the wind. Fuck Verizon. Their phones have most of the phones features suppressed and the service sucks worse than anything I have experienced. Not saying that AT&T doesnt have its issues, but you dont have nearly the bullshit with Verizon. My initial cells were all with Verizon and I swore by them too, but towards the end, they forced me out with their games and lack of caring for people. In the Hicksville store, if you want to get a phone, you better take a fucking day off work! You will be there for hours and hours.

I hear the sales people at verizon eat their sammiches upside down

[Hottub]

I'm a Pearl guy all the way. I gave up the wifi capability in order to to have a phone that will fit easily in my pocket. Curve and Storm are way too big.
The wifi isn't a big issue because the Now Network provides everything I need. I have 3 phones (2 are bb's) all on unlimited everything for $129. One phone for unlimited everything is $99, so 3 give you more bang for the buck.
Perhaps you could get your family to join in, and get similar savings with your current carrier.

Just my thoughts.


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[Death Metal Moe]

I am a AT&T guy, and the reason I left Verizon was because of what you said Moe. I hate being assigned a person and having to wait on them, and then once you are lucky enough to get them to yourself, if they sense you arent buying, they toss you to the wind. Fuck Verizon. Their phones have most of the phones features suppressed and the service sucks worse than anything I have experienced. Not saying that AT&T doesnt have its issues, but you dont have nearly the bullshit with Verizon. My initial cells were all with Verizon and I swore by them too, but towards the end, they forced me out with their games and lack of caring for people. In the Hicksville store, if you want to get a phone, you better take a fucking day off work! You will be there for hours and hours.

Well to be fair as I said, the guy wasn't outwardly rude to me, but I could tell he was pretty much done with me when he realized there was no way he was selling me a phone.

I've had my problems with Verizon in the past, but AT&T's coverage sucks a bag of soggy dicks. My buddy Grim had Cingular, then they merged with AT&T and he's never been more pissed off at a phone company. If Verizon had the iPhone he's switch the day it came out. He went from full bars to his phone going over to voice mail in his own house in the more populated areas of NJ down off route 3. He also got ZERO bars in Pike County, PA where I spend every Saturday, so that's another reason I won't be going to AT&T.

I am stuck with Verizon's coverage, but I can't complain about it. I get a signal all over the place and I've owned different phones while going out there.

So now that I've been investigating phones I do see what people are talking about with Verizon limiting options on their phones and I know their customer service has major issues. But they have the best coverage around and for that, I'm sticking with them. Because it doesn't matter how many things my cell can do if I can't get a signal.

[Goatweed]

Well to be fair as I said, the guy wasn't outwardly rude to me, but I could tell he was pretty much done with me when he realized there was no way he was selling me a phone.

I've had my problems with Verizon in the past, but AT&T's coverage sucks a bag of soggy dicks. My buddy Grim had Cingular, then they merged with AT&T and he's never been more pissed off at a phone company. If Verizon had the iPhone he's switch the day it came out. He went from full bars to his phone going over to voice mail in his own house in the more populated areas of NJ down off route 3. He also got ZERO bars in Pike County, PA where I spend every Saturday, so that's another reason I won't be going to AT&T.

I am stuck with Verizon's coverage, but I can't complain about it. I get a signal all over the place and I've owned different phones while going out there.

So now that I've been investigating phones I do see what people are talking about with Verizon limiting options on their phones and I know their customer service has major issues. But they have the best coverage around and for that, I'm sticking with them. Because it doesn't matter how many things my cell can do if I can't get a signal.

Did the rep even suggest that the Storm 2 was due out any day? If not then fuck him, he lost a sale because he wanted to move old inventory.

I also thought the issue with the Tour/trackball was fixed - if not then I'd avoid it. In fact I think that will be the last model with a trackball so if you can hold out for one with a pad, do so. The ball is a bitch to clean every week anyway.

All the clips and reviews in the end are a small part of the decision - I'd wait for the stores to have a working unit on the floor so you can mess with it - that's what I'm doing at least. Like I said, worst case you end up hating whatever phone you choose and you can return it to fall back on your current model. I love my curve but it's just not powerful enough anymore.

[Goatweed]

And yes, AT&T sucks moosecock. I have an AT&T Berry for work and I get shit service in lower manhattan - where I spend 90% of my time. No thanks.

[Whiskeyportal]

Threw my Storm the fuck away and got an iPhone 3Gs. Gotta say, iPhone is leaps and bounds ahead of the Storm. I'd never go back personally.

[LZMan1]

Well I went to the Verizon store, and I have to say I am not "wowed" by the Blackberry devices. The trackballs on these things aren't as responsive as I was hoping. The buttons on the Tour are fucking small. I can feel the single click point in the middle of the screen that instrument was talking about, the typing wasn't hard at all and I know I'll get used to it.

I was a little pissed. The guy who was assigned to me wasn't rude at all, I just got this feeling that once he realized I wasn't actually due for my "New every 2" until the 27th of this month and that I was very interested in waiting for the Storm 2, he kinda washed his hands of me. I got "Well there's all our Blackberry phones over there, let me know if you need anything." OK. Thanks douche. I'm gonna stick with Verizon but I don't have to give that store my business again.

So that's about it. The only Blackberry that kinda wowed me was the Pearl Flip, and just because you get a lot of the Blackberry shit in such a small phone, but I understand that means limited performance and storage I'm sure.

After my visit if I HAD to get one today I'd probably go with the Tour but I think I'm gonna hold out for the Storm 2.

moe: i have big meathooks as well and my storm works just fine for me. my wife has the tour and i just can't use it. wait it out and get the storm 2. it should be released soon enough.

[JustJon]

Threw my Storm the fuck away and got an iPhone 3Gs. Gotta say, iPhone is leaps and bounds ahead of the Storm. I'd never go back personally.

I can't wait for the day that Verizon gets an iPhone.

[Goatweed]

http://crackberry.com/blackberry-storm2-review

[Death Metal Moe]

Did the rep even suggest that the Storm 2 was due out any day? If not then fuck him, he lost a sale because he wanted to move old inventory.

I also thought the issue with the Tour/trackball was fixed - if not then I'd avoid it. In fact I think that will be the last model with a trackball so if you can hold out for one with a pad, do so. The ball is a bitch to clean every week anyway.

All the clips and reviews in the end are a small part of the decision - I'd wait for the stores to have a working unit on the floor so you can mess with it - that's what I'm doing at least. Like I said, worst case you end up hating whatever phone you choose and you can return it to fall back on your current model. I love my curve but it's just not powerful enough anymore.

The guy didn't suggest anything. After he looked in the comp and found my New Every 2 date wasn't until the end of the month AND after I asked him about 2 phones he didn't even have, he was done with me. I am considering using another store after that to be honest, I don't care if they're close. None of the Verizon stores around me are very far.

If there weren't any new Blackberrys due out soon I'd probably go with the Tour, but since it now seems the Storm 2 is closer than ever, I'm more than happy to wait until the 27th. Right around that time, things should be movin' and shakin' in the Verizon phone community.

[instrument]

The moto cliq reviews are out as well...doesn't look too promising.

And don't hold your breath on a vzw iphone, especially afters verizons very visible partnership with google.

I'm either going to hold out until the pre and the motorolla droid are released to compare against the storm 2, or I'm just gonna get a tour in the meanwhile.

And am I the only one annoyed that a blackberry can't continue to play music with the camera open?

[biggestmexi]

The moto cliq reviews are out as well...doesn't look too promising.

And don't hold your breath on a vzw iphone, especially afters verizons very visible partnership with google.

I'm either going to hold out until the pre and the motorolla droid are released to compare against the storm 2, or I'm just gonna get a tour in the meanwhile.

And am I the only one annoyed that a blackberry can't continue to play music with the camera open?

With plenty of heat on AT&T this past year, hopes have been running high for Apple to share its iPhone with Verizon. However, an analyst does not foresee a Verizon iPhone arriving anytime soon.

That’s because Verizon recently announced a partnership with Google to offer two new Google Android-powered handsets this year. That would suggest Verizon’s near-term direction is with Android, said Scott Ellison, an IDC analyst, in a ComputerWorld article.

Ellison added that there’s no sign Apple is ready to share its iPhone with another carrier. Also, three IDC analysts said Verizon probably won’t receive the iPhone until it converts to its fourth-generation Long Term Evolution (LTE) network.

Several months ago, some analysts speculated the iPhone would be shared with the Verizon network by 2010. Many sources have claimed AT&T’s exclusive contract with Apple ends next year, though this remains unconfirmed. Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg told The Wall Street Journal that Apple is more likely to bring the iPhone to Verizon once the telecom company deploys its LTE network. He explained the majority of the wireless industry plans to transition to LTE in the next few years, and it would then make sense for Apple to bring Verizon on board. Verizon has said it is rolling out LTE next year.

Of course, cellular networks take several years to deploy and optimize, so we didn’t believe Verizon would get the iPhone as soon as it began rolling out LTE. Thus, IDC’s reasoning is plausible. Meanwhile, iPhone owners disgruntled with AT&T, or Verizon customers eagerly awaiting the iPhone to land on their network, can keep wishing for the day Apple ends its exclusive relationship with AT&T..
:surrender:

[Goatweed]

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/15/blackberry-storm-2-review-first-look/

[biggestmexi]

i wonder why they are not listing the CPU.

[JustJon]

When I was returning the Tour, the salesperson was trying to sell me on other phones in stock and I kept saying if I have to keep it for two years, I don't want a phone that is already discounted and practically obsolete. I just told him to return my phone until he finally did.

Still would love to have a Verizon iPhone, but it's looking like next summer.

[boosterp]

Storm 2 (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2354221,00.asp?kc=PCRSS02129TX1K0000530)

The BlackBerry Storm2 9550 finally delivers on the original Storm 9530's promise. It's a powerful device with an innovative click screen that really works—and it feels finished instead of like an engineering prototype. Having said that, the Storm 9550 is now a proper version of last year's groundbreaking smartphone. Is that good enough for an Editors' Choice award, given all that's happened in the wireless industry in the past year? It's a tough call, but we have to say no because of its unimpressive Web browsing and underpowered camera.

[instrument]

Storm 2 processor speed same as 1 528 mhz.

And it does have four contact points, that trainer was obviously retarded.

I'm waiting for the motorolla droid but I might get the tour to hold me over.

I really want a phone that ships with android 2.0 or the pre.

I think the BB os is just old and just can't handle the multimedia apps that other phones can.

[biggestmexi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYM-XTqcec

http://phones.verizonwireless.com/motorola/droid/?cmp=OTC-Droid-redirect4

[JustJon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYM-XTqcec

http://phones.verizonwireless.com/motorola/droid/?cmp=OTC-Droid-redirect4

We get it.

[Death Metal Moe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPYM-XTqcec

http://phones.verizonwireless.com/motorola/droid/?cmp=OTC-Droid-redirect4

Hmm, interesting. I'm gonna have to do some searching on this phone now. I love having options.

[biggestmexi]

We get it.

HAY.

Im just trying to help.

Although my local Verizon store is having Buy one get one Blackberry free.

The Sales person said they will still have this deal when the Storm 2 comes out.

So i can get to storm 2's for one!!!

[instrument]

And you have to activate both of course.

[biggestmexi]

And you have to activate both of course.

oh i know. it would be for me and the gf.

oddly at the store they told me the tethering would be $30 a MONTH!!!

but the site says 1st month free with the following months being $15.

here it would be an extra 60 for the blackberrys

im not sure its worth it really.

maybe when the storm 2 or the droid comes out they will drop some of their bullshit charges

[JustJon]

HAY.

Im just trying to help.

Although my local Verizon store is having Buy one get one Blackberry free.

The Sales person said they will still have this deal when the Storm 2 comes out.

So i can get to storm 2's for one!!!


They also would have let me get a netbook or mifi for free, not just another blackberry.

[biggestmexi]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/19/motorola-droid-hands-on/

[underdog]

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/19/motorola-droid-hands-on/

I'm so torn. The phone seems so awesome, but it's a Motorolla, so I'm sure it's going to be terrible and break all the time.

Although, I am used to my blackberry sucking bad, so maybe I can deal with a motorolla again.

[biggestmexi]

I'm so torn. The phone seems so awesome, but it's a Motorolla, so I'm sure it's going to be terrible and break all the time.

Although, I am used to my blackberry sucking bad, so maybe I can deal with a motorolla again.

granite, its not a smart phone, but i have a Motorola KRZR. and it has always worked fine.

The speaker blew out for ringing and speaker phone...but that more than likely from dropping it often....and where i work.

all in all it hasnt been a problem like the LG's my GF had.
(i know no one brought up LG but im just saying)
and maybe with this droid phone being such a step forward for them, they made it decent...maybe...

[underdog]

granite, its not a smart phone, but i have a Motorola KRZR. and it has always worked fine.

The speaker blew out for ringing and speaker phone...but that more than likely from dropping it often....and where i work.

all in all it hasnt been a problem like the LG's my GF had.
(i know no one brought up LG but im just saying)
and maybe with this droid phone being such a step forward for them, they made it decent...maybe...

I've had nothing but luck with LG phones. I guess it really just depends on the person.

[biggestmexi]

I've had nothing but luck with LG phones. I guess it really just depends on the person.

ill agree with luck of the draw instead :laugh:

[instrument]

The motorolla w49 was probably the worst phone ever created, followed closely by the problematic razr...

But their "smart"phones have been good, and nowhere near as bad as the wing/shadow/etc with tmobile.

[biggestmexi]

http://fonefrenzy.com/2009/10/18/bigger-news-for-verizon-than-motorolas-droid/

http://www.mactouchuser.com/2009/10/18/iphone-4g-and-apple-tablet-to-verizon-201/

[Death Metal Moe]

Jesus, come out with a fucking phone already you jerkoff motherfuckers. I want I want gimmie gimmie gimmie I need I need I need gimmie!!

[instrument]

Moe, my buddy with a tourjust had a hands on with the storm 2 and he's planning on dumping his tour for the
The storm.

He went as far to say that typing on the new storm is easier than the tour...wich says a lot.

It still has an awful browser and mediocre media apps....and still can't play music while taking a picture (anyone with an iphone that can verify if the iphones music pauses when taking pics?)

199 will prob be the new2 price point.

I'm giving up on the bb os, android 2.0 is where the cool kids are...

[Death Metal Moe]

Moe, my buddy with a tourjust had a hands on with the storm 2 and he's planning on dumping his tour for the
The storm.

He went as far to say that typing on the new storm is easier than the tour...wich says a lot.

It still has an awful browser and mediocre media apps....and still can't play music while taking a picture (anyone with an iphone that can verify if the iphones music pauses when taking pics?)

199 will prob be the new2 price point.

I'm giving up on the bb os, android 2.0 is where the cool kids are...

If the price is $199 after the 2 year re-sign discount, they may have just lost a customer. I ain't payin' 200 fucking dollars for a phone.

[underdog]

If the price is $199 after the 2 year re-sign discount, they may have just lost a customer. I ain't payin' 200 fucking dollars for a phone.

Eh, it's what I had to pay for my storm. You have to pay a lot when they first come out.

[deliciousV]

I love my Storm, for the most part, but I think if I was getting a new one now I'd wait for the droid. The apps for Storm are lagging behind, they seem to have laid down on making them, like they gave up. I still can't get the XM app, or the Mapquest app, and lots of others, they just aren't there for Storm.

[instrument]

2year discount price for tour is 149, last time around curve was 149 storm 1 was 199.

Same price as the iphone 3gs (199)

Figured you knew that.

Hell, there are htc's that are 399 with 2year contracts.....

I get my full discount every ten months, I couldn't handle waiting 2years, that seem f'n crazy

[biggestmexi]

lol storm is now 49.99

check my other thread for the VZWoffer twitter

[Death Metal Moe]

Official Storm2 Announcement. (http://crackberry.com/verizon-officially-announces-blackberry-storm2)

I found this on crackberry.com. I couldn't find any info on Verizon Wireless and I didn't see a link to an official website, but crackberry seems to be fairly well informed so I think this info is legit.

Gonna go look at it this week but I'm fairly sure I'm gonna wait until the Droid is out, look at them both then make a decision.

[biggestmexi]

DMM ... . .. . . .DMM!!!!

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5067