Prince Fielder Celebration

[joeyballsack]

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So..was this a little over the top or would people like to see more of this kind of thing in baseball ?

I thought it was kind of cool myself.

[disneyspy]

i cant get the video to play,is this the superman dive he did into 2nd base? i thought that was awesome for a big man to do

[TheGameHHH]

that was hilarious

[instrument]

Hell yeah, never knew his last name though.

Does he still need hip replacement? Poor jehovas witness.

[JPMNICK]

i thought it was really funny, plus it was a walk off win in the 12th, not some random 5th inning homerun.

[JerseyRich]

Yes...over the top. Keep your shirt tucked in. :tongue:

[King Hippos Bandaid]

best I have ever seen,, you have to be good when you have a walk off home run celebration choreographed

Luis Castillo has a new walk off legging out a infield single celebration

[disneyspy]

just saw this on ROME IS BURNING, my tv skipped when he hit home plate

[SP1!]

Wow hes not doing himself any favors with that, he will be lucky to have his head the next time he plays San Fran.

[spoon]

Funny and gay at the same time. Oh yah, he's going to get hit high and hard by some SF pitchers. If I was on the other side of it, I too would be looking forward to playing them again REAL soon.

[foodcourtdruide]

This is not the California Penal League. No one is going to throw at Fielder's HEAD. They may get him between the numbers, but jesus, no one wants to kill anyone because they got showed up.

[TripleSkeet]

I have no problem with it. I actually enjoy choreographed celebrations in sports, and wish theyd let them do more of it.

As far as being drilled goes, I really dont think this warrants it. I saw it more as guys having fun then I did them showing up the pitcher. There is a difference. Its not like when aq guy hits a home run and then stares down the pitcher, in my eyes that deserves a beaning, this was just fun.

[spoon]

I have no problem with it. I actually enjoy choreographed celebrations in sports, and wish theyd let them do more of it.

As far as being drilled goes, I really dont think this warrants it. I saw it more as guys having fun then I did them showing up the pitcher. There is a difference. Its not like when aq guy hits a home run and then stares down the pitcher, in my eyes that deserves a beaning, this was just fun.

Tell that to a team on the other bench fighting for their playoff lives. Tell that to the pitcher who watched him set up the GAY display tied to the fact that it was clearly a planned action. I get that it's supposed to be a fun game and all, but clearly sports are linked to billions of dollars and plenty of ego and code. Here both were stomped on and I promise you there will be payback. I know damn well this wouldn't even fly in beer league softball or surely not in hockey at any level.

[Ritalin]

I thought it was funny, but it's a fine line. I think all of those things are basically stupid until they make me laugh, then I think they're cool. This one was pretty cool.

I don't think he will be drilled, because it ended the game. When it happens during a game, duck, but I don't think a drilling is warranted. He's not showing up the other team, he's celebrating a win. It's different.

[spoon]

I thought it was funny, but it's a fine line. I think all of those things are basically stupid until they make me laugh, then I think they're cool. This one was pretty cool.

I don't think he will be drilled, because it ended the game. When it happens during a game, duck, but I don't think a drilling is warranted. He's not showing up the other team, he's celebrating a win. It's different.

I heard Lincecum on the Rome show say he was pissed off and many other Giants did the same on other shows. The best thing for Fielder and the Brewers is that they won't see the Giants again until 2010. Perhaps the perfect storm for pulling this bullshit?

Here's yet another reason I LOVE Tori Hunter and will root for the guy anywhere minus NYY.
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Interestingly, Los Angeles Angels center fielder Torii Hunter reacted as strongly as any Giant might when he saw television replays of the Brewers' show.

"If I was a pitcher. ... my mouth would be wide open," Hunter told The Los Angeles Times. "I'd be shocked. Baseball is not like the NFL, where you can celebrate in the end zone. You've got to keep your cool, play the game. You can't do that."

Hunter admitted that he laughed at Fielder and called the Brewers' celebration "creative." But, Hunter added, "It's a little strong for baseball, because you could have a 90-mph fastball coming at you the next day. If someone did that against us and we played them again, trust me, he'd get crushed, and we'd try to fight him."

The Giants will not face Milwaukee in the regular season until next year, though they'll likely meet in Spring Training exhibitions.
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[jauble]

Thats a very arrogant thing to do for a team thats 15 games back. I hope this does not become a common thing.

[Tallman388]

It was kind of funny, but for a team that isn't anywhere near the playoffs, the whole team should probably tone down the antics.

[TheMojoPin]

Fuckin' hysterical.

I'm tried of all the whiny, bitch ass fans and people in baseball who act like displays of emotion or their ilk should basically be forbidden on the field. That's such a stupid mentality given that this is a fucking sport.

[spoon]

Fuckin' hysterical.

I'm tried of all the whiny, bitch ass fans and people in baseball who act like displays of emotion or their ilk should basically be forbidden on the field. That's such a stupid mentality given that this is a fucking sport.

Personal attacks!! Ban yourself.

I think it was stupid and his dad should take all his money and beat him....oh wait, I forgot.

[TheMojoPin]

I think it was stupid and his dad should take all his money and beat him....oh wait, I forgot.

http://thefurtiveglance.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/rim-shot-johnny-utah.jpg

[spoon]

I prefer this...YAH! (http://www.instantrimshot.com/)

How about that Rodney suspension!? Sure he was angry at the time, but three games?

MLB Over-The-Top? (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090908&content_id=6853744&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

[STC-Dub]

I have no problem with it, it is not like a defensive linemen celebrating a tackle for a two yard loss when his team is down by 21 points.

[jauble]

I have no problem with it, it is not like a defensive linemen celebrating a tackle for a two yard loss when his team is down by 21 points.

a team thats 15 games back.

Ahem.

[spoon]

exactly

[DolaMight]

just saw this on ROME IS BURNING, my tv skipped when he hit home plate

ROME IS BURNING... down there....

[PapaBear]

i thought it was really funny, plus it was a walk off win in the 12th, not some random 5th inning homerun.
Exactly. Who cares what they do after the game is over? It was pretty funny. They obviously had it planned, but it's something you really have to wait for. I wonder if they planned it only if he hit a walk off, or if it was planned for the first player who did it.

[JPMNICK]

Exactly. Who cares what they do after the game is over? It was pretty funny. They obviously had it planned, but it's something you really have to wait for. I wonder if they planned it only if he hit a walk off, or if it was planned for the first player who did it.

i am sure it was just for him, something they joked about all season if he hit a walk off

[Suspect Chin]

I hope Roger Goodell bans him for 4-6 games.

[MC Pee Pants]

I thought we would be celebrating him in this thread. Cheesy move but hes fat ......& I LIKE THAT!

[Fallon]

They kinda did that in Any Given Sunday.

I don't have a problem with it other than Prince pointing to his teammates to get into position when he was rounding second.

[hanso]

Although I liked it.
This could be the start of something (see end zone dances).
Also all team songs will now be in auto tune (see dolphins auto tune song).

[El Mudo]

EDIT: Never mind

[TripleSkeet]

Tell that to a team on the other bench fighting for their playoff lives. Tell that to the pitcher who watched him set up the GAY display tied to the fact that it was clearly a planned action. I get that it's supposed to be a fun game and all, but clearly sports are linked to billions of dollars and plenty of ego and code. Here both were stomped on and I promise you there will be payback. I know damn well this wouldn't even fly in beer league softball or surely not in hockey at any level.

You know what I would tell them? Id tell them to win or stop being fucking crybabies.

I never got that. Another team celebrating hurts your fucking ego? Then youre not a real ballplayer. You know what shouldve really bruised their egos? The fact they just gave up a home run and got beat. Not a bunch of guys celebrating.

And I personally hope to see more of it.

I LOVE the players in the NFL that basically say "Fuck your rules, if I score Im celebrating". When TO played here we couldnt wait to see what his next TD celebration was going to be. Thats what its supposed to be about, entertaining the fans. If you dont like being shown up, then fucking stop them from scoring. If you dont have the talent to do that, then shut your mouth and take your beating like a man.

[TheMojoPin]

You know what I would tell them? Id tell them to win or stop being fucking crybabies.

I never got that. Another team celebrating hurts your fucking ego? Then youre not a real ballplayer. You know what shouldve really bruised their egos? The fact they just gave up a home run and got beat. Not a bunch of guys celebrating.

And I personally hope to see more of it.

I LOVE the players in the NFL that basically say "Fuck your rules, if I score Im celebrating". When TO played here we couldnt wait to see what his next TD celebration was going to be. Thats what its supposed to be about, entertaining the fans. If you dont like being shown up, then fucking stop them from scoring. If you dont have the talent to do that, then shut your mouth and take your beating like a man.

Agreed.

The whole "you can only celebrate so much" in football and especially baseball is ridiculous. If a team wins or a guy makes an amazing play or does something key in a critical situation, fuck it, they're gonna be pumped. Why make them hold it in? They're excited, the rest of the team is excited, the fans are excited...let it show. This is the highest level of competition for these sports and we want the guys playing it to be amped up and passionate about the game...but not too much? What the fuck?

[El Mudo]

You know what I would tell them? Id tell them to win or stop being fucking crybabies.

I never got that. Another team celebrating hurts your fucking ego? Then youre not a real ballplayer. You know what shouldve really bruised their egos? The fact they just gave up a home run and got beat. Not a bunch of guys celebrating.

And I personally hope to see more of it.

I LOVE the players in the NFL that basically say "Fuck your rules, if I score Im celebrating". When TO played here we couldnt wait to see what his next TD celebration was going to be. Thats what its supposed to be about, entertaining the fans. If you dont like being shown up, then fucking stop them from scoring. If you dont have the talent to do that, then shut your mouth and take your beating like a man.


QFT. That's a great point.

[A.J.]

You know what I would tell them? Id tell them to win or stop being fucking crybabies.

I never got that. Another team celebrating hurts your fucking ego? Then youre not a real ballplayer. You know what shouldve really bruised their egos? The fact they just gave up a home run and got beat. Not a bunch of guys celebrating.

And I personally hope to see more of it.

I LOVE the players in the NFL that basically say "Fuck your rules, if I score Im celebrating". When TO played here we couldnt wait to see what his next TD celebration was going to be. Thats what its supposed to be about, entertaining the fans. If you dont like being shown up, then fucking stop them from scoring. If you dont have the talent to do that, then shut your mouth and take your beating like a man.

If a team wins or a guy makes an amazing play or does something key in a critical situation, fuck it, they're gonna be pumped. Why make them hold it in?

I agree with what you're saying but Mojo touched on the problem that I have always had: during a critical situation. Some of these guys celebrate after a relatively routine play, early in the game, like they just won the championship. It's annoying.

[spoon]

QFT. That's a great point.

No it's not. I'm sorry, it's called class and has nothing to do with ego, but being made a mockery. It's baseball, not a fucking boy band dance off. If you want to do your celebration dances making it about yourself as opposed to team celebrations, be prepared to get a ball in the ribs or laid out in the next game multiple times in football and hockey.

[KingGeno]

Celebrations are never cool when you are on a losing team.

[El Mudo]

No it's not. I'm sorry, it's called class and has nothing to do with ego, but being made a mockery. It's baseball, not a fucking boy band dance off. If you want to do your celebration dances making it about yourself as opposed to team celebrations, be prepared to get a ball in the ribs or laid out in the next game multiple times in football and hockey.



That WAS a team celebration.

[spoon]

Celebrations are never cool when you are on a losing team.

Yet as AJ said, people go too far over and over on routine plays in football these days. To me it's not just winning teams/plays where these happen, let alone for teams even in the playoff hunt.

[spoon]

That WAS a team celebration.

It was about him Mudo. His planned celebration centered on his power. Going into a mob at home is one thing, but that was just gay.

[TheMojoPin]

No it's not. I'm sorry, it's called class and has nothing to do with ego, but being made a mockery. It's baseball, not a fucking boy band dance off. If you want to do your celebration dances making it about yourself as opposed to team celebrations, be prepared to get a ball in the ribs or laid out in the next game multiple times in football and hockey.

How is a celebration over a walkoff win at home a "mockery" over anything?

And how was this NOT a team celebration? Look at the photos/clip: the entire team is celebrating.

Your idea of "class" in American pro sports is totally subjective: you talk like this is some kind of horrible offense, yet essentially physically assaulting someone or intentionally hurling a deadly weapon at them over showing their emotions after a win or a big play is all class?

I don't understand how some people want athletes to get pumped up, but not TOO pumped up.

[El Mudo]

Yet as AJ said, people go too far over and over on routine plays in football these days. To me it's not just winning teams/plays where these happen, let alone for teams even in the playoff hunt.


The entire nature of sports has changed. These athletes aren't brain dead, and they know that 90% of the game now is maintaining your "personal brand". Its the entire reason people care about guys like Chad Ochocinco, and why Michael Irvin is in the HOF. This will arguably make Prince Fielder more famous for anything he's done on a baseball field (and that's probably the point of doing it in the first place).

As little as these team owners and leagues care about the fans and the players themselves, why should the players not look out for themselves in that sense? Its like any other business now...make as much money as you can, while you can, and then get the hell out.

[jauble]

The entire nature of sports has changed. These athletes aren't brain dead, and they know that 90% of the game now is maintaining your "personal brand". Its the entire reason people care about guys like Chad Ochocinco, and why Michael Irvin is in the HOF. This will arguably make Prince Fielder more famous for anything he's done on a baseball field (and that's probably the point of doing it in the first place).

As little as these team owners and leagues care about the fans and the players themselves, why should the players not look out for themselves in that sense? Its like any other business now...make as much money as you can, while you can, and then get the hell out.

I really doubt he will be remembered as the fat vegetarian who won a game and then people fell down.

[TheMojoPin]

I really doubt he will be remembered as the fat vegetarian who won a game and then people fell down.

He's going to be remembered as the fat vegetarian who hit an assload of home runs (most of them for the Cubs after he signs as their 1st baseman for the 2011 season).

[El Mudo]

I really doubt he will be remembered as the fat vegetarian who won a game and then people fell down.

Never said it would be why he's remembered, but it will introduce him to a ton of people who've never heard of him via youtube and social networking and tweeting if the video goes viral, and keep him on the front pages of Deadspin for whatever he comes up with next.

[underdog]

Your idea of "class" in American pro sports is totally subjective: you talk like this is some kind of horrible offense, yet essentially physically assaulting someone or intentionally hurling a deadly weapon at them over showing their emotions after a win or a big play is all class?

Yeah, I don't get that one, either.

I don't understand how some people want athletes to get pumped up, but not TOO pumped up.

It's the same thing how people want athletes to be honest, but when they are honest, they get yelled at for opening their mouth.

[KingGeno]

Maybe if the team practiced baseball more than dance choreography they could get further. If I was the manager I would have made their asses run laps until their ankles bled.

[TheMojoPin]

Maybe if the team practiced baseball more than dance choreography they could get further. If I was the manager I would have made their asses run laps until their ankles bled.

That seems like a terrible idea.

[JPMNICK]

Maybe if the team practiced baseball more than dance choreography they could get further. If I was the manager I would have made their asses run laps until their ankles bled.

they have 20 hours a day to worry about this, its not like baseball is a 24/7 job. this was not some dance set to music it was a 4 second little thing. i think it is cool this team is having some fun and some good chemistry

[spoon]

How is a celebration over a walkoff win at home a "mockery" over anything?

And how was this NOT a team celebration? Look at the photos/clip: the entire team is celebrating.

Your idea of "class" in American pro sports is totally subjective: you talk like this is some kind of horrible offense, yet essentially physically assaulting someone or intentionally hurling a deadly weapon at them over showing their emotions after a win or a big play is all class?

I don't understand how some people want athletes to get pumped up, but not TOO pumped up.

Who called the retaliation a classy move? I sure didn't, but to me it's what you deserve. Also, it's perfectly legal to put a little more pop and extra attention to a player in question throughout a game for past trangressions, not physical assault. Not to mention, hitting a player is part of the game as well, more so than choreographed home plate celebrations. You may not like it, but I guess we both have something we don't like in the game than.

[spoon]

The entire nature of sports has changed. These athletes aren't brain dead, and they know that 90% of the game now is maintaining your "personal brand". Its the entire reason people care about guys like Chad Ochocinco, and why Michael Irvin is in the HOF. This will arguably make Prince Fielder more famous for anything he's done on a baseball field (and that's probably the point of doing it in the first place).

As little as these team owners and leagues care about the fans and the players themselves, why should the players not look out for themselves in that sense? Its like any other business now...make as much money as you can, while you can, and then get the hell out.

Listen I see your point loud and clear, but it doesn't mean I have to like it and Fielder shouldn't get beaned. Your point screems he's out for the attention I claimed and he'll not only get it from the networks, but from the SF Giants as well. You can't POSSIBLY think this wouldn't irk the other team and think they wouldn't look to the next meeting for payback. The only thing he has going for him is the offseason. Hell, some pitchers take exception to people admiring their hrs too long, this is way worse.

[TheMojoPin]

Who called the retaliation a classy move? I sure didn't, but to me it's what you deserve. Also, it's perfectly legal to put a little more pop and extra attention to a player in question throughout a game for past trangressions, not physical assault. Not to mention, hitting a player is part of the game as well, more so than choreographed home plate celebrations. You may not like it, but I guess we both have something we don't like in the game than.

Except your beef isn't a threat to anyone's health or livelihood.

If they "deserve" it for celebrating a play or the win, why don't they "deserve" it simply for the play or the win themselves? What's the line for a player's reaction where suddenly they "deserve" to be hit? A fist pump? Laughing? A smile? When does it go too far and the response has to be "OMG HE MADE ME FEEL BAD I MUST NOW HIT HIM"? Why is a dogpile at homeplate OK? Isn't that going to make the other team feel bad since it's being done on the field right in front of them? Should they just be robots and show no emotion whatsoever?

[spoon]

Maybe if the team practiced baseball more than dance choreography they could get further. If I was the manager I would have made their asses run laps until their ankles bled.

Agreed.

And mudo, Irvin isn't in the HOF bc of gay celebrations and personal branding. I hate to break it to you, but he's one of the top WRs of all-time.

[TheMojoPin]

Hell, some pitchers take exception to people admiring their hrs too long, this is way worse.

Which is such a stupid, crybaby mentality on the part of the pitchers, especially those in the AL. Hitting a home run off of a major league pitcher is arguably the single hardest thing to do out of the major American sports. Players should be free to cartwheel down the baseline after doing it.

[TheMojoPin]

Agreed.

You really think the Brewers spent any significant amount of time doing this? Or that spending that time on something else would make a difference? If they were way in first people would talking about how it showed how these guys have "great chemistry" and a "great clubhouse" or how they're winning because they're "playing loose and having fun."

[spoon]

Except your beef isn't a threat to anyone's health or livelihood.

If they "deserve" it for celebrating a play or the win, why don't they "deserve" it simply for the play or the win themselves? What's the line for a player's reaction where suddenly they "deserve" to be hit? A fist pump? Laughing? A smile? When does it go too far and the response has to be "OMG HE MADE ME FEEL BAD I MUST NOW HIT HIM"? Why is a dogpile at homeplate OK? Isn't that going to make the other team feel bad since it's being done on the field right in front of them? Should they just be robots and show no emotion whatsoever?

Have you heard me say the fist pump, laughing or smiling is over-the-top? Not even close. I think the line is easily seen and that celebration was clearly over it. Is it the end of the world? Of course not, but it will be remembered for good and for bad. By saying the complete opposite of what we are talking about doesn't make ur argument. I understand we're often on the opposite sides of issues like steroids and celebrations, and perhaps it's based on where we come from with our experiences in sports.

[A.J.]

Which is such a stupid, crybaby mentality on the part of the pitchers, especially those in the AL. Hitting a home run off of a major league pitcher is arguably the single hardest thing to do out of the major American sports. Players should be free to cartwheel down the baseline after doing it.

Again, it depends on WHEN you do it. Walk-off for the win? Sure. Solo shot in the 3rd? Probably not.

[spoon]

Which is such a stupid, crybaby mentality on the part of the pitchers, especially those in the AL. Hitting a home run off of a major league pitcher is arguably the single hardest thing to do out of the major American sports. Players should be free to cartwheel down the baseline after doing it.

Really Mojo? That's the equivalent of one contractor getting the project doing a td dance/celebration right in front of the others who were trying for the same job. It's just a prof thing in my mind, as this is a business in the end as well, and the guy on the mound already just got drilled. I just don't see how "players should be free to cartwheel down the baseline" or even close. Do I think pitchers sometimes get over worked up on the time thing, of course. And if there is a line as you mentioned before that is blurry, there it is.

[TheMojoPin]

Have you heard me say the fist pump, laughing or smiling is over-the-top? Not even close. I think the line is easily seen and that celebration was clearly over it.

If it's easily seen, then what's the line? What is OK and when and what isn't? Or is this the sports version of "I know it when I see it?"

[spoon]

You really think the Brewers spent any significant amount of time doing this? Or that spending that time on something else would make a difference? If they were way in first people would talking about how it showed how these guys have "great chemistry" and a "great clubhouse" or how they're winning because they're "playing loose and having fun."

Being that they're in the bottom 1/3 in pitching, fielding and hitting in MLB, yes.

[spoon]

If it's easily seen, then what's the line? What is OK and when and what isn't? Or is this the sports version of "I know it when I see it?"

It's really simple... does it upstage the pitcher or the game itself, is it choreographed, does it turn into an individual attention getting display or does it go on for an extended period of time? I just threw that together in a second and it pretty much covers it in my mind.

[TheMojoPin]

Really Mojo? That's the equivalent of one contractor getting the project doing a td dance/celebration right in front of the others who were trying for the same job.

How is it like that at all? These guys all have jobs already, nor are all they all "trying for the same job."

It's just a prof thing in my mind, as this is a business in the end as well, and the guy on the mound already just got drilled.

But this isn't just a business. It's sports and it exists to entertain us.

I just don't see how "players should be free to cartwheel down the baseline" or even close. Do I think pitchers sometimes get over worked up on the time thing, of course. And if there is a line as you mentioned before that is blurry, there it is.

If you're talking about being professional, wouldn't it be more professional to respond to a celebration to play harder to win the next game or try and top that play if the game is still going and win as opposed to effectively throwing a tantrum and beaning a guy or kicking the crap out of them?

[TheMojoPin]

Being that they're in the bottom 1/3 in pitching, fielding and hitting in MLB, yes.

How would shifting the 5 minutes it took to come up with this to anything else change any of that?

[spoon]

How would shifting the 5 minutes it took to come up with this to anything else change any of that?

My point is they aren't good and have plenty to work on. I'm quite sure they're distracted from the fundamentals of the game quite often, this being just another one. Still, even if they were the top team in the MLB I'd feel the same. It's just a rip/joke I liked from Geno, not an serious point to say the least.

[TheMojoPin]

It's really simple... does it upstage the pitcher or the game itself

Wait....what? Why does the pitcher need to be "protected" like that? The pitcher isn't better than everyone else. If they fuck up, they fuck up, same as any other player on the field. If they do well they should be able to celebrate just like anyone else.

And how is a celebration over a play in the game upstaging the game? It's part of the game. It's part of what we're watching. It doesn't happen out of nowhere or in a vaccum.

is it choreographed,

So you think any kind of planned celebration on the field after a game should be against the non-existent "rules?" How does one distinguish what is choreographed and what isn't? What the Brewers did is the exception in regards to the former, not the rule.

does it turn into an individual attention getting display or does it go on for an extended period of time?

The basic act of a player successfully getting a hit or making a play is inherrently an individual attention getting display.

What qualifies as an extended period of time? I can't imagine that what the Brewers did qualifies in regards to that.

[TheMojoPin]

My point is they aren't good and have plenty to work on. I'm quite sure they're distracted from the fundamentals of the game quite often, this being just another distraction.

Or maybe it's a team having a bad season having a brief moment of fun after an enjoyable win before the season ends. Bad teams aren't allowed to have any fun?

[spoon]

Wait....what? Why does the pitcher need to be "protected" like that? The pitcher isn't better than everyone else. If they fuck up, they fuck up, same as any other player on the field. If they do well they should be able to celebrate just like anyone else.

And how is a celebration over a play in the game upstaging the game? It's part of the game. It's part of what we're watching. It doesn't happen out of nowhere or in a vaccum.



So you think any kind of planned celebration on the field after a game should be against the non-existent "rules?" How does one distinguish what is choreographed and what isn't? What the Brewers did is the exception in regards to the former, not the rule.



The basic act of a player successfully getting a hit or making a play is inherrently an individual attention getting display.

What qualifies as an extended period of time? I can't imagine that what the Brewers did qualifies in regards to that.

The bottom line is you feel celebrations like this are a part of the game, I feel they have no place in it. For this same reason I hate Joba's antics along with Krod's. We're not going to agree on this. Do you really want people going nuts on the mound after every K? Every batter doing a TD dance on a big hit? Fuck, you might as well just watch basketball instead.

[spoon]

Or maybe it's a team having a bad season having a brief moment of fun after an enjoyable win before the season ends. Bad teams aren't allowed to have any fun?

So the only way to have fun is to do this?

[TheMojoPin]

So the only way to have fun is to do this?

No, it's just one way.

[TheMojoPin]

The bottom line is you feel celebrations like this are a part of the game, I feel they have no place in it. For this same reason I hate Joba's antics along with Krod's. We're not going to agree on this. Do you really want people going nuts on the mound after every K? Every batter doing a TD dance on a big hit? Fuck, you might as well just watch basketball instead.

So you hate when teams do the typical dogpile at homeplate after a walkoff win?

And no, I don't expect guys to celebrate after every little play in baseball, but a pitcher getting pumped after a tough out or getting out of a jam or a rough inning doesn't bother me at all. I'm also not bothered by guys doing what it takes to stay pumped up in football since so much of it hinges on intensity.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

If you give up a game winning home run, there is a celebration, although this one is a lil selfish, you earn the showboating when you win a game with a walk off HR

[jauble]

Regardless, he is probably going to get plunked. Not in the head, but I assume he knew that when he pointed to home plate. It is part of the game and they are NL teams so the pitcher has to hit as well.

[El Mudo]

Agreed.

And mudo, Irvin isn't in the HOF bc of gay celebrations and personal branding. I hate to break it to you, but he's one of the top WRs of all-time.



He was never even the best receiver in his own conference (excluding Jerry Rice)

http://theblackquarterback.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/carter.jpg

[spoon]

Great, and so was Rice and Bruce as well, still not the reason Irvin was HOF. Carter played 4 more years and has 2,000 yards more. I'd say they're pretty comparable, outside of Super Bowl Championships for Irvin and TDs for Carter (and Smith hurt Irvin here).

[El Mudo]

Great, and so was Rice and Bruce as well, still not the reason Irvin was HOF. Carter played 4 more years and has 2,000 yards more. I'd say they're pretty comparable, outside of Super Bowl Championships for Irvin and TDs for Carter (and Smith hurt Irvin here).

Irvin's in the HOF....Carter isn't. Maybe he should have been more stabby and waved the ball around after first downs more.

[spoon]

Irvin's in the HOF....Carter isn't. Maybe he should have been more stabby and waved the ball around after first downs more.

Carter ended his career in 2002, Irvin in 1999. There's the reason for this fact, not to mention he's the clear top option on this year's final ballot. (I know 2010 ballot isn't out yet, but he's all but in.)

[jauble]

In the zombie apocalypse I think I will end up standing next to spoon. I never saw this coming.

[spoon]

Shit he may actually be in trouble.

2010 eligible players!

Jerry Rice in, Emmitt Smith in, Tim Brown he's in or it's Carter, Aeneas Williams, John Randle, Ray Guy, Russ Grimm.

My guess, Carter is the third in here.

[foodcourtdruide]

This is the NFL hall of fame. EVERYONE gets in.

[foodcourtdruide]

Again, it depends on WHEN you do it. Walk-off for the win? Sure. Solo shot in the 3rd? Probably not.

Leadoff basehit to left field in the 4th inning of the 12th game of the season?

[foodcourtdruide]

So you hate when teams do the typical dogpile at homeplate after a walkoff win?

And no, I don't expect guys to celebrate after every little play in baseball, but a pitcher getting pumped after a tough out or getting out of a jam or a rough inning doesn't bother me at all. I'm also not bothered by guys doing what it takes to stay pumped up in football since so much of it hinges on intensity.

I kind of agree. I love creative touchdown dances. I don't know why the NFL won't allow them.

Baseball has an unwritten rule against celebrations.

What'd you think when Aubry Huff mocked Chamberlain? Was he being a baby, or is Joba a baby for fist pumping strikeouts in the 3rd inning?

[spoon]

What'd you think when Aubry Huff mocked Chamberlain? Was he being a baby, or is Joba a baby for fist pumping strikeouts in the 3rd inning?

Both are.

[El Mudo]

Shit he may actually be in trouble.

2010 eligible players!

Jerry Rice in, Emmitt Smith in, Tim Brown he's in or it's Carter, Aeneas Williams, John Randle, Ray Guy, Russ Grimm.

My guess, Carter is the third in here.

Yeah....I can't see them taking Brown over Carter. They both played roughly the same amount of years, Carter has over 100 more catches and close to a thousand more career yards than TB, averaged a yard per game more, and has 30 TDs on Brown.

Poor Ray Guy. They HAVE to put at least one punter in...for the love of Mary, there's one pure kicker in there.

[TheMojoPin]

What'd you think when Aubry Huff mocked Chamberlain? Was he being a baby, or is Joba a baby for fist pumping strikeouts in the 3rd inning?

Totally Huff being a baby. If he wants to "get back" at Joba for it then get a him off of him and make him pay and beat his team. If he can't, tough shit.

[spoon]

You may want to kill that AO quote in your sig Mudo!

[spoon]

Totally Huff being a baby. If he wants to "get back" at Joba for it then get a him off of him and make him pay and beat his team. If he can't, tough shit.

He did, and according to your code has the right to do anything in celebration! Fist pumps & cartwheels baby!

[TheMojoPin]

He did, and according to your code has the right to do anything in celebration! Fist pumps & cartwheels baby!

Damn right! The more elaborate and excessive the better.

You should especially be against the idea of retribution since pitchers in the AL can act like the biggest brats and throw at guys all they want without the fear of having to face the opposing pitcher.

[El Mudo]

You may want to kill that AO quote in your sig Mudo!

Its all I have :glurps::glurps:

[TripleSkeet]

The problem is you cant lump in sports celebrations altogether. Each situation is subjective.

Like someone said...
Hitting a walk off home run? Celebrate all you want. Hit a homer in the 3rd...just walk back to the dugout.

Score a touchdown to put your team ahead? Lets see what youve got planned. Score a touchdown so that your team is now only losing by 20...better to just walk away.

A fist pump is fine for a strikeout or a sack, a dance routine isnt.

Its all about perspective. But people that dont want to see any kind of celebrating or shit talking just annoy me. How fucking boring.

[spoon]

The problem is you cant lump in sports celebrations altogether. Each situation is subjective.

Like someone said...
Hitting a walk off home run? Celebrate all you want. Hit a homer in the 3rd...just walk back to the dugout.

Score a touchdown to put your team ahead? Lets see what youve got planned. Score a touchdown so that your team is now only losing by 20...better to just walk away.

A fist pump is fine for a strikeout or a sack, a dance routine isnt.

Its all about perspective. But people that dont want to see any kind of celebrating or shit talking just annoy me. How fucking boring.

Yes bc that's what those who didn't like THAT celebration are saying, no celebrating of any kind vs faggy coordinated team displays....on a shit team.