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keithy_19

09-02-2009, 07:16 PM

The truth is, a few years ago while Bush was in office, I flirted with the idea of communism and actually read The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx...

I'm a cheap whore. A fraud...

I'm sorry Gvac.

FrogSlayer

09-02-2009, 07:21 PM

A little light reading?

STC-Dub

09-02-2009, 08:43 PM

It doesn't make you a bad person. It also does not make interesting reading from what I remember.

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

09-02-2009, 08:57 PM

a few years ago while Bush was in office

That says it all!

Don't get me started on the attocities of the Soviet regime.

Stalin was an asshole-- he salted the Ukrainians' fields so they'd starve.

I just don't get how people call Obama a Nazi AND a communist. Oh, and a socialist hippy. MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!

PS-- it just shows you have an open mind and curious about world politics.

HBox

09-02-2009, 09:03 PM

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3351/img00261o.jpg

Yes that is my copy of the Communist Manifesto. Every night I sleep while hugging it tightly.

keithy_19

09-02-2009, 09:39 PM

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3351/img00261o.jpg

Yes that is my copy of the Communist Manifesto. Every night I sleep while hugging it tightly.

I lol'd.

I actually have a very open mind to things. I kind of run with the hardcore right things sometimes because it provides more dialogue and people write really long posts that fill me with even more knowledge. And I don't like all the things that the president has donw. I don't like the government getting bigger. But, I don't think Obama is a nazi or a communist. He just believes in different things. Whatever. In 4 years if he really fucks up he won't be elected again. Ya know, unless he tampers with votes, but I don't think that could happen...

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

09-02-2009, 09:52 PM

THIS is the ONLY place my Soviet Studies major plays a role in my life.

Socialism is one thing. Most western-European countries are socialist in some way.

COMMUNISM is GREAT on paper, but not so good when it comes to human nature. I know it all started in Eastern Europe but it failed. White people are lazy. Or lazier than most. Or the hard workers were smart enough to get out before the borders closed.

BUT when you add the Asian work ethic-- BINGO!! It worked for China, in a way. Granted they keep Shanghai "western" and capitalist so China can make money (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Communism is working WONDERS for North Korea. Oh-- and Cuba. An island.

Slavs were WAYYYYY TOO JADED to really believe in Communism. Maybe some douch bag kids wanted to find a place in the regime. But even the regime enjoyed the the perks of the west.

HBox-- you're SUCH a political tease!!! Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars!

bigtim666

09-02-2009, 10:52 PM

alittle opposing view pont never hurt....... that said i am sure everyone knows communicm is a monatary system, and democracy is a way of running a gov't. we have had social tendancies since FDR. In my opnion unregulated capitalism is my choice of monatary system.

CruelCircus

09-03-2009, 12:09 AM

I don't even know you anymore.

keithy_19

09-03-2009, 12:12 AM

I don't even know you anymore.

I'm not sure I really know who I am myself.

Gvac

09-03-2009, 01:45 AM

On this day I have wept.

I hope you're happy, Keithy.

How do you look in the mirror.

A.J.

09-03-2009, 02:57 AM

What next Keithy -- Mein Kampf?

shittles

09-03-2009, 03:02 AM

I would be more forgiving if a friend of mine had read the Satanic Bible. We will all suffer for our county's current flirtation with communism

CountryBob

09-03-2009, 04:34 AM

Wow - some of you guys are deep - I just read shit like Harry Potter and Steven King books.

walking joint

09-03-2009, 04:40 AM

i don't even read

shittles

09-03-2009, 05:14 AM

I hate people who think they are so smart just because they read stuff like Marx and the New York Times.

JerseyRich

09-03-2009, 05:52 AM

I would be more forgiving if a friend of mine had read the Satanic Bible. We will all suffer for our county's current flirtation with communism

My county flirted with giving me jury duty. I got out of it.

~Katja~

09-03-2009, 05:57 AM

I wouldn't say I flirted with it but was made to study Marx & Lenin from 1-4th grade... it doesn't make you a bad person, studying it does not mean that you 100% agree with it. Good for you for widening your horizons and not just talk out your ass when discussing political subjects in other threads.

shittles

09-03-2009, 05:58 AM

My county flirted with giving me jury duty. I got out of it.

Laugh away at my typos. It's easier to mock rather than face the uncomfortable truth that this great nation is being ruined.

JerseyRich

09-03-2009, 05:59 AM

Laugh away at my typos. It's easier to mock rather than face the uncomfortable truth that this great nation is being ruined.

If you live here, you can't help but face it. Don't try to tell us that you're the only one that realizes this. Thanks.

shittles

09-03-2009, 06:02 AM

If you live here, you can't help but face it. Don't try to tell us that you're the only one that realizes this. Thanks.

good to see you also realize Obama is marching us all toward socialism.

JerseyRich

09-03-2009, 06:04 AM

I just said that this country is fucked...not that we're heading for socialism.

west milly Tom

09-03-2009, 06:11 AM

Tis a truly sad day.

epo

09-03-2009, 07:01 AM

lleeder

09-03-2009, 07:40 AM

furie

09-03-2009, 02:56 PM

The truth is, a few years ago while Bush was in office, I flirted with the idea of communism and actually read The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx...

I'm a cheap whore. A fraud...

I'm sorry Gvac.

so? it's a free country read what you want and be what you want.

in HS i had to read the communist manifesto and das capital for book reports!

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CofyCrakCocaine

09-03-2009, 03:23 PM

Communism was probably intended by nature to be at best practiced individually by small isolated villages or settlements, rather than have one particular communism control a monstrously huge geographic area.

Gets hard to keep your community and everyone in it in mind when said community's population exceeds 50,000. Impossible to achieve once you hit the sixth digit.

Thus things like Soviet Russia were not honest applications of Communism in the Karl Marx-intended sense. It was just something to make a political machine different from everyone else and thereby state its superiority by reason of its differences with other powers.

That's my pedestrian opinion.

HBox

09-03-2009, 03:35 PM

I'll say one thing about the Communist Manifesto: It's a little preachy. Gotta admit.

keithy_19

09-03-2009, 06:02 PM

Keep reading Keithy!

Read Mein Kampf and see how stupid it is. Read Wealth of Nations. Read Jon Nichols/Robert McChesney. Read Ayn Rand. Read Saul Alinsky.

Grab every perspective you can, then you can judge them for yourself and develop a perspective that is yours and yours alone.

I went to the book store and picked up Mein Kampf. I read some of it and then put it down and left the store. It's so awful. In everyway.

I've read some Nietzsche. I purposely bought 'Anti-Christ' since I was raised christian.

I'm currently reading Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'.

keithy_19

09-03-2009, 06:04 PM

I'll say one thing about the Communist Manifesto: It's a little preachy. Gotta admit.

Very.

HBox

09-03-2009, 06:12 PM

I'm currently reading Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'.

I feel so sorry for you.

monkfish

09-03-2009, 06:21 PM

I'm currently reading Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'.

Don't let the bastards get you down.

Good book. For a few years I read it annually around tax season (seriously.)
Hank Rearden FTW (that's not a spoiler.) ;)

HBox

09-03-2009, 06:28 PM

Don't let the bastards get you down.

Good book. For a few years I read it annually around tax season (seriously.)
Hank Rearden FTW (that's not a spoiler.) ;)

i understand the appeal of her ideas. However she is the worst writer I have ever read in my life, Atlas Shrugged in particular. I was a quarter of the way through and could not believe there was that many pages left. But at least she filled it with some of the most tedious writing and dialog I have ever read.

If there was a book that encapsulated my feelings so well and was written like that garbage I'd be seriously pissed.

SatCam

09-03-2009, 06:29 PM

jennysmurf

09-03-2009, 07:04 PM

It worked for these guys......

http://www.tubapants.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/smurfs.jpg

Landblast

09-03-2009, 07:06 PM

It worked for these guys......

:tongue:

keithy_19

09-03-2009, 07:14 PM

It worked for these guys......

http://www.tubapants.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/smurfs.jpg

For a time. They never counted on those damn Care Bears...

TheMojoPin

09-03-2009, 07:18 PM

i understand the appeal of her ideas. However she is the worst writer I have ever read in my life, Atlas Shrugged in particular. I was a quarter of the way through and could not believe there was that many pages left. But at least she filled it with some of the most tedious writing and dialog I have ever read.

If there was a book that encapsulated my feelings so well and was written like that garbage I'd be seriously pissed.

Yeah, she presents an interesting philosophy/ideology but her books are absolute agony to get through. Horrible, horrible reads.

keithy_19

09-03-2009, 07:27 PM

Yeah, she presents an interesting philosophy/ideology but her books are absolute agony to get through. Horrible, horrible reads.

I agree with her on many points. But I agree that it's going to be a slow read. Especially factoring in I'm reading Beowulf and Wutherington Heights for my poetry, and British Lit class.

jennysmurf

09-03-2009, 07:29 PM

I agree with her on many points. But I agree that it's going to be a slow read. Especially factoring in I'm reading Beowulf and Wutherington Heights for my poetry, and British Lit class.

I listened to Atlas Shrugged on cd--WAY better. You should try it that way. I'm sure you could get it at the library.

razorboy

09-03-2009, 07:53 PM

I'm sure you could get it at the library.

The what?

keithy_19

09-03-2009, 07:58 PM

The what?

I really don't know why I don't use the library. I love reading, but I also love owning the book. I'm odd like that.

jennysmurf

09-03-2009, 08:05 PM

I really don't know why I don't use the library. I love reading, but I also love owning the book. I'm odd like that.

I only buy a book when I really love it and know I'll read it again. I have saved much money.

jennysmurf

09-03-2009, 08:06 PM

The what?

That building with all the books where homeless people go to bathe and go BM.

razorboy

09-03-2009, 08:12 PM

That building with all the books where homeless people go to bathe and go BM.

Oh, Barnes & Noble.

jennysmurf

09-03-2009, 08:23 PM

Oh, Barnes & Noble.

*sigh* You have much to learn, young one.

razorboy

09-03-2009, 08:32 PM

*sigh* You have much to learn, young one.

Borders?

keithy_19

09-03-2009, 08:32 PM

I only buy a book when I really love it and know I'll read it again. I have saved much money.

And I've blown much. But hey, the 'library' in my room is quite extensive!

HBox

09-03-2009, 08:33 PM

I listened to Atlas Shrugged on cd--WAY better. You should try it that way. I'm sure you could get it at the library.

Just out of curiosity how long did THE speech last on tape?

furie

09-03-2009, 10:00 PM

I'm currently reading Ayn Rand's 'Atlas Shrugged'.

that's a tough read

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jennysmurf

09-04-2009, 09:02 PM

Just out of curiosity how long did THE speech last on tape?

I don't remember, it was a few years ago. I listened to it on a drive from Kentucky to New York.

Jughead

09-04-2009, 09:03 PM

Seems like you're ready to be name the new Admin around here.

:smile:

keithy_19

09-04-2009, 10:15 PM

that's a tough read

I think it's one of the reasons I'm reading it. That and with the research I've done on Ayn Rand and her philosophy speaks rather boldly to me.

beachbum

09-06-2009, 07:01 PM