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hammersavage
08-30-2009, 08:58 PM
Well, the decade is drawing to a close. Just a few more months and its 2010. That means it’s list time.

Here are my picks for the best albums, movies (drama and comedy), and TV shows of the past decade (2000-2009). I wanted to include sports moments but my bias and hatred would have made it too slanted. Feel free to choose your own or create your own category.

I arbitrarily decided how many I would pick.

Top 30 Albums:
1-Wilco-Yankee Hotel Foxtrot: My favorite album from my favorite band. Lyrically, musically, it moves me like only a few albums ever have. A beautiful Americana album that came out shortly after 9/11, that gave it a unique context.
2-Radiohead-Kid A: Almost had the best album in consecutive decades.
3-Beck-Sea Change: The ultimate break-up album.
4-And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead-Source Tags and Codes
5-My Morning Jacket-Z
6-The Strokes-Is This It?: The album that defined the rebirth of garage rock.
7-Arcade Fire-Neon Bible
8-Interpol-Turn On The Bright Lights
9-Radiohead-In Rainbows
10- Ted Leo and the Pharmacists-Shake the Sheets
11-New Pornographers-Twin Cinema
12-The Decemberists-Castaways and Cutouts
13- Broken Social Scene-You Forgot It In People
14-U2-All That You Can’t Leave Behind
15-The White Stripes-Elephant
16-Bloc Party-Silent Alarm
17-Arcade Fire-Funeral
18-The Hold Steady-Stuck Between Stations
19-The White Stripes-Get Behind Me Satan
20-The Shins-Chutes Too Narrow
21-Spoon-GaGaGaGaGa
22-OutKast-Stankonia
23-The Black Keys-Attack and Release
24-Queens of the Stone Age-Songs for the Deaf
25-Cymbals Eat Guitars-Why There Are Mountains
26-Kanye West-The College Dropout
27-Arctic Monkeys-Whatever People Say That I Am, That’s What I’m Not
28-Pearl Jam-Pearl Jam
29-Fountains of Wayne-Welcome Interstate Managers
30-Jay Reatard-Blood Visions


Top 40 Movies (drama):
1-Almost Famous: The best movie of the 2000’s because it, more than almost any other film I’ve seen, completely understands how it feels to be in love with music while reminding me of why I love film at the same time. An incredibly personal story that could resonate with anyone who has ever been taken somewhere by music. Great music, great performances. It’s funny and touching and infinitely rewatchable. (this was my choice long before Bill Simmons picked it, I swear)
2-City of God: The story of youth gangs in the slums of Rio de Janiero that is amongst the best crime drama’s of all time. It delves into impoverished areas that are both disturbing and picturesque in a manner that has rarely been captured on screen.
3- There Will Be Blood: The performance of the decade and maybe Daniel Day Lewis’ best, which says a lot. Paul Thomas Anderson created a masterpiece about a greed filled madman that was taught with tension, beautiful landscapes and a brilliant score. It has it all.
4- Gangs of New York: Scorsese’s best film since Goodfellas to date. Created this world of the Five Points that was vast and exciting and brutal and brought you right into the middle of it.
5- The Motorcycle Diaries: A biopic and a road trip movie shot with epic scope. Two friends set off on a motorcycle to travel across South America. By the time its over, one would become one of the most famous revolutionaries of the century. Just a truly gorgeous, thought provoking flick.
6-Capote: A first time feature film director, beautiful Midwestern landscapes, a great performance. Another notch on Philip Seymour Hoffman’s belt, such a precise performance of a well known character.
7-Children of Men: A brilliant dystopian movie. Some of the greatest camera work ever in film (the single-shot battle scene in particular).
8-Diving Bell and the Butterfly: Based on the memoir of Jean-Dominique Bauby, the film is shown from his point of view- ‘locked in syndrome’, a condition in which he is almost totally paralyzed (use of one eye) but mentally intact. With just one eye, the guy wrote his memoirs. Either completely depressing or uplifting, depending on your perspective.
9-Pan’s Labyrinth: A fairytale full of CGI creatures, puppetry and elaborate sets. Not many films have such a elaborate visual style. One of the truly gorgeous films ever made.
10-No Country for Old Men: A character driven film about human nature and morality. It takes multiple viewings for the themes and meaning to set in. Maybe the Coen brothers most complete work.
11-A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints: A personal story of what it was like to grow up in Astoria, Queens in the 80’s. Really shows what effect friends, even the misguided ones, have on your life.
12- Memento: Never really seen story telling in quite this way. An ingenious plot device to show the film backwards. But its not just a gimmick, it’s a well crafted thriller.
13-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: A movie about romance that isn’t a romantic comedy and about memory that isn’t sappy. Hard to pull off but it does. Best film written by Charlie Kaufman.
14-Into the Wild: Breathtaking landscapes of America, the sweet voice of Eddie Vedder to go along for the ride, and a fantastic performance I didn’t see coming.
15-Mystic River: Yea Mojo, fuck you.
16-American Splendor: Didn’t know Harvey Pekar going into the movie but found the story fascinating. The mix of animation with live action is great. Paul Giamatti gives a superb performance.
17- Little Children: Todd Field’s follow up to In The Bedroom is another haunting look at suburban life. Character driven led by performances from Kate Winslet and Jackie Earle Haley who began a comeback in this fantastic, menacing role.
18-Adaptation: Another Charlie Kaufman piece of brilliance. The times I want to swear off Nic Cage forever, I remember performances like this and realize what he has in him when he puts his mind to it. Strange, funny, well acted.
19-Milk: Deserved to win Best Picture. A great story finally got the script that had been plaguing it for years and when paired up with a great director and one of the finest actors ever, it was bound to be a classic.
20-Zodiac: A true story about a serial killer that is never caught sounds like a film with no payoff. But David Fincher built a tension for two and a half hours that left you drained by the end. Perfect tone, great cast, a real adult thriller.
21-Traffic: A precursor to films like Crash and Babel that showed an incident or issue from multiple perspectives, this film succeeded the best as a film by far. Where those other films are preachy or heavy handed, Traffic is tense and powerful throughout.
22-Inglourious Basterds: A revenge film in an alternate universe. Tarantino’s most complete film since Pulp Fiction.
23-O’ Brother Where Art Thou?: A loose adaptation of the Odyssey that is both hilarious and epic. The first feature film to be entirely color corrected digitally giving it that incredible cinematography. A mix of folk, bluegrass, ‘old timey music’ compliment the film perfectly.
24- In The Bedroom: Another Todd Field masterpiece about a true tragedy of the American family. A great study in grief and how a family deals (or struggles to deal more appropriately) with death.
25-Michael Clayton: A tense thriller for adults. Not action packed but well composed, well acted and smart.
26-In Bruges: A true dark comedy that tells the story of two hitmen hiding out in Belgium. Very funny and unexpectedly beautiful. Bruges looks like a great place to hide (under better circumstances of course).
27-Road to Perdition: Brought some life to the tired gangster genre. Fantastic cinematography.
28-This Is England: Delved into a subculture I never really knew before-British skinheads in the early 1980’s. A moving, and at times funny film.
29- Little Miss Sunshine: A lot of films in the later half of the decade fell too far into ‘indie quirk’. Little Miss Sunshine certainly has its share, but is darkly comedic and well acted enough to rise above.
30-Sideways: Alexander Payne’s most complete film, a buddy road trip movie that isn’t sophomoric. Just a sophisticated, intelligent, humorous adult movie.
31-Dark Knight: Not a great superhero film, but a great film. Period. Doesn’t need any qualifiers. A crime drama on the highest level with one of the decades best performances.
32-LOTR Trilogy: I count the three films together. Separately, they are still impressive. But collectively, its as epic as filmmaking has ever been.
33-Good Night, and Good Luck: At a time of almost zero media responsibility, it was both refreshing (and frustrating) to see the way Murrow took on McCarthyism. Strathairn gives a great performance.
34- Jarhead: Not quite as good as the book it’s based on, but I think it hits on enough points.
35-Atonement: The age old story of star crossed lovers that ends tragically as so many do. One of the great and most complex tracking shots ever captured on film.
36-Minority Report: That’s right Ronnie B! Sure, precogs are absurd. But if you make the sci-fi leap, it works as a brilliant story of the morality of free will vs fate. The look is a gorgeous mix of shadows and overlighting, a futuristic noir.
37-Big Fish: A grown up fairytale that works as a father-son story. When Will takes his father to the river for the last time, Niagara Falls Frankie angel.
38-Alpha Dog: A movie that showed that Emile Hirsh and Justin Timberlake can act has to be good.
39-Donnie Darko: For Sparkle Motion alone.
40-High Fidelity: Not a romantic comedy exactly, but more of a comedy about romance through music.


Top 10 Movies (comedy):
I could try to explain why these are the top 10, why I find them funny. But comedy is all about perspective. Some people don’t find Monty Python funny. Some people hate dick jokes.
1-Superbad
2- Anchorman
3-Wet Hot American Summer
4-The Royal Tenenbaums
5- Wedding Crashers
6-About a Boy
7-Shaun of the Dead
8-Old School
9-The 40 Year Old Virgin
10- The Foot Fist Way


Top 20 TV Shows:
1-The Wire: Not the best of the decade, the best of all time. The great American story.
2-Arrested Development: Most brilliantly written comedy ever.
3- The Office (UK)
4- Band of Brothers
5-Mad Men
6- 30 Rock
7-The Sopranos
8-Lost
9-Undeclared: Wanted to include Freaks and Geeks but 5 episodes aired in ’99. But this show was great too.
10-Breaking Bad
11-Deadwood
12-Rescue Me
13-Curb Your Enthusiasm
14-Dexter
15-The Daily Show
16-Flight of the Conchords
17-How I Met Your Mother
18-Entourage (half of it anyway)
19-The Shield
20-Pushing Daisies



Now go ahead. Tell me how my opinion is wrong and yours is so much better.

hammersavage
08-30-2009, 08:59 PM
And no, I have nothing better to do

fezident
08-30-2009, 09:10 PM
Thank you for acknowledging WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER.

Pure gold. The deleted scenes are also pure gold.


I will scour the rest of this list later, and have a full report on your desk in the morning.

Reynolds
08-30-2009, 09:20 PM
Too early. You are bored.

hammersavage
08-30-2009, 09:20 PM
Too early. You are bored.

And?

razorboy
08-30-2009, 09:36 PM
I thought that Space Odyssey was pretty cool.

Reynolds
08-30-2009, 09:47 PM
And?

And I have nothing to add because I haven't even thought about compiling a list yet.

I want thorough reasons for the rankings of the TV shows like you did the movies

HBox
08-30-2009, 10:02 PM
I'll just do music for now.

1. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavillion - I have never been so captivated by music that immediately sounded so different from anything I have heard. This is a recent one but its incredible.

2. Mew - Frengers - I read a review of this album that said it was essentially hook after hook after hook after hook. And that's pretty much what it is. There's isn't one off moment, let alone song.

3. The Mars Volta - The Bedlam in Goliath - I could not stop listening to this for months. So relentlessly aggressive and head that it's almost exhausting to listen through all the way. But that's right up my alley.

4. Radiohead - In Rainbows - As their sound slowly evolves it slowly gets better. This one is right behind OK Computer and The Bends IMO.

5. Mew - And The Glass Handed Kites - There aren't too many of these kinds of albums anymore where each song flows into the next and is part of one giant suite. Mew handled it almost perfectly.

6. The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema - Power Pop was never better than this this decade.

7. Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings The Flood - My 4 favorite songs of her's are all on this great album.

8. The Roots - Game Theory - This album still dominates their playlist when they perform live. Lots of really high highs and low lows.

9. Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head

10. The Go! Team - Thunder, Lightning, Strike - I didn't have more fun listening to music this decade.

11. Arcade Fire - Funeral

12. Sigur Ros - Takk... - Sheer epicness on the brink of going overboard...... but never does.

13. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights - Too bad they haven't gotten close to this level ever since.

14. Madvillian - Madvilliany - DOOM at his best.

15. Arctic Monkeys - Favourite Worst Nightmare - All I have to say about this is that I enjoy the hell out of it.

16. Kanye West - The College Dropout

17. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell

18. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - Brilliance.

19. Frou Frou - Details

20. Rodrigo y Gabriela - Rodrigo y Gabriela - A couple of Hispanic metalheads put out an acoustic guitar album. Of course it was brilliant.

*Honorable Mention* Stars - Sad Robots EP - Best EP I've ever heard. All but one of 6 songs were instant favorites.

hammersavage
08-31-2009, 07:07 AM
I want thorough reasons for the rankings of the TV shows like you did the movies

The TV shows I could do. It was tough to try to do with the music and not be repetitive. And explain why comedy is funny is the antithesis of comedy.

paulisded
08-31-2009, 08:05 AM
Looks like I have some homework to do.

Tell me more about Cymbals Eats Guitars.

hammersavage
08-31-2009, 09:24 AM
Looks like I have some homework to do.

Tell me more about Cymbals Eats Guitars.

It's my favorite album of this year. A group of 4 20-21 year olds from the Staten Island/Jersey area. Like a mix between Built to Spill and Modest Mouse. A lot of sweeping melodies, keyboards, horns, high energy crescendo's. Just a lot of things I like rolled into one. Definitely check it out.

Marc with a c
08-31-2009, 11:18 AM
And explain why comedy is funny is the antithesis of comedy.

i thought you were the antithesis of comedy?

scorched!!

hammersavage
08-31-2009, 11:19 AM
Just for that, Wet Hot American Summer is off my list

underdog
08-31-2009, 11:28 AM
It's my favorite album of this year. A group of 4 20-21 year olds from the Staten Island/Jersey area. Like a mix between Built to Spill and Modest Mouse. A lot of sweeping melodies, keyboards, horns, high energy crescendo's. Just a lot of things I like rolled into one. Definitely check it out.

I grabbed it based on your recommendation. IT BETTER BE GOOD SALLY.

Kublakhan61
08-31-2009, 11:28 AM
MIA – Kala (2007)
Paper Planes got us in the door but halfway through the album opener, Bamboo Banger, I didn’t care if ever heard Paper Planes again. If you think the album didn’t live up to the single, you’ve missed the boat. Huge beats on this record. Put it and have a party.

White Stripes – De Stijl (2000)
Jack White’s bluesiest, most garage rockin’-est LP to date. A Blind Willie McTell cover, a Son House cover, a hint of White’s ability to pen soft, heartfelt tunes (Sister, Do You Know My Name?) and many great guitar moments. Important, if overshadowed by its successors, as The White Stripes pretty much Dominated popular rock music in the 2000’s.

Thee Oh Sees – Help (2009)
John Dwyer finally gets its right. After forming several bands that each showcased different aspects as to what’s so great about R’n’R, Dwyer hit on Thee Oh Sees. Dead ahead, straight-up Rock and Roll. Big loud guitars that solo when they should, male and female vocals, zero pretention, and a demonstrated love for true purveyors of that sweet r’n’r sound, such as The Animals or The Sonics, earn this record a spot on the list.

J Dilla – Donuts (2006)
What can be said about this record that hasn’t been said already? Dilla’s opus. Beats so strong that when you hear someone rap over them, even if they’re a great rapper (I’m looking at you Ghostface) you think, ‘aw, well this rapping sure ruins Dilla’s beat’. Individual beats may stand-out as favorites but this doesn’t play like a collection of studio beats ready to be picked over. This is the all-time greatest long playing mix.

Libertines – Up the Bracket (2002)
Remember when Punk was dead? The Libertines didn’t get the memo. This is as close as you’re gonna get to being in a fight with limey in a pub while standing on this side of the ‘pond’.

LCD Soundsystem – LCD Soundsystem (2005)
It IS a beginner’s course on dance/punk/electronic fun. It sounds like ‘a fat guy in a t-shirt doing all the singing’. This is a hip dance record. The BPM might be higher then your used to, but if know how to dance you’ll know that you need records like this in your collection – because there really is no acceptable way to dance to a Modest Mouse record.

Fourtet – Pause(2001)
One guy and some computers – not too glitchy, not at all droning, just true electronica that’s never boring. If there was ever a need for the moniker folktronica, this would be it. The guitars, when they appear, are soft as linen; the drums keep you just above the water level that is ambient. Pause is as engaging as it is forward thinking, which is to say plenty engaging.

Deltron 3030 – Deltron 3030 (2000)
Futuristic space rap from the Funky Homosapien, this is a record that showcases wildly inventive lyrics and never detracts from the Automator’s beats. The narrative is coherent throughout, the gimmick never wears (like Dr. Oct.), and every single track is worth listening to. Is that enough to get in the Top 10? Yes. That and lyrics centered on quantum jumps, hijacking mechs, and writing viruses. C’mon!

Radiohead – Amnesiac(2001)
A top ten record for sure but let’s be honest – the 2000’s were not Radiohead’s era. They are hanging on but it’s hard to see, due the nature of fanboyism, that these past few years haven’t been good to them. So, while I haven’t said much good about this particular album, let it be enough that Amnesiac is making the list. In time, when our sick attachment to this band fades hopefully we will be able to look back in honesty and say Amnesiac was the last great record those chaps could muster.

Von Sudenfed – Tromatic Reflexxions (2007)
Mouse on Mars reel in their experimental electronica just long enough to let an aging MES shout embittered, egoistic nonsense over the top of it. The oddest pairing imaginable reinvigorated my faltering convictions for MES, whom I had thought was simply sapped of new (read: Good) ideas. This record illustrated the fact that, as much as MES thinks he should run the show at all times, there is some good to be found in honest collaboration. MES even revealed his softer side in this record. And, you can dance it.


Honorable Mentions:
Endless Boogie - Vols 1 and 2
Nas - Hip-hop is Dead
Jay-Z - The Blueprint
The Storkes - Is This It? (UK ed.)
MuM - Yesterday Was Dramtic, Today was Ok
Do Make Say Think - Goodbye Enemy Airship, the Landlord is Dead
Mclusky- Mclusky Do Dallas
Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Yeah Yeah Yeahs ep
Outkast - Stankonia
Kinski - Airs Above Your Station

hammersavage
08-31-2009, 11:29 AM
I grabbed it based on your recommendation. IT BETTER BE GOOD SALLY.

Shit. I don't know how well it will be liked 'in the community'.

King Hippos Bandaid
08-31-2009, 11:30 AM
how is Mad Men, I have heard too many good things not to atleast DVR it

instrument
08-31-2009, 11:36 AM
I'm really glad I don't spend my life composing lists.

When I do I hope its a suicide checklist.

underdog
08-31-2009, 11:54 AM
Shit. I don't know how well it will be liked 'in the community'.

It's pretty interesting so far.

MacVittie
08-31-2009, 01:39 PM
Best Hip Hop Albums of the decade:

1. NaS - Stillmatic (2001)
2. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele (2000)
3. Jay-Z - The Black Album (2003)
4. RJD2 - Deadringer (2002)
5. Felt - Felt, Vol. 2: A Tribute to Lisa Bonet (2005)
6. Outkast - Stankonia (2000)
7. Mr. Lif - I Phantom (2002)
8. Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow (2002)
9. Jay-Z - The Blueprint (2001)
10. Binary Star - Masters of the Universe (2000)

As expected, most of these albums were released in the early portion of this decade. I would have a really hard time coming up with 10 great hip hop albums released in the past 5 years.

hammersavage
10-23-2009, 06:10 PM
Pitchfork released its list of the best Albums of the decade. Here's the top 20:

01. Radiohead-Kid A
02. Arcade Fire-Funeral
03. Daft Punk-Discovery
04. Wilco-Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
05. Jay-Z-The Blueprint
06. Modest Mouse-The Moon & Antarctica
07. The Strokes-Is This It
08. Sigur Rós-Ágætis Byrjun
09. Panda Bear-Person Pitch
10. The Avalanches-Since I Left You
11. Ghostface Killah-Supreme Clientele
12. The White Stripes-White Blood Cells
13. OutKast-Stankonia
14. Animal Collective-Merriweather Post Pavillion
15. The Knife-Silent Shout
16. Sufjan Stevens-Illinoise
17. LCD Soundsystem-Sound of Silver
18. Kanye West-Late Registration
19. Spoon-Kill the Moonlight
20. Interpol-Turn on the Bright Lights

underdog
10-23-2009, 06:18 PM
Pitchfork released its list of the best Albums of the decade. Here's the top 20:

I just recently (for some reason) discovered Modest Mouse and Interpol and I would definitely agree with those albums.

Also, Kid A is probably my favorite album of all time. It's simply fucking amazing. So I would also put that at #1.

It's actually a pretty good list overall.

hammersavage
10-23-2009, 06:23 PM
I just recently (for some reason) discovered Modest Mouse and Interpol and I would definitely agree with those albums.

Also, Kid A is probably my favorite album of all time. It's simply fucking amazing. So I would also put that at #1.

It's actually a pretty good list overall.

I was surprised how good it was. They can be harsh on some great albums just to be cool and its fucking annoying.

Interpol is fantastic but they peaked with their debut, just incredible album. and Kid A was my #2 but I have no problem with it being #1. again, for a band to have the best album in consecutive decades is pretty cool.

underdog
10-23-2009, 06:27 PM
I was surprised how good it was. They can be harsh on some great albums just to be cool and its fucking annoying.

Interpol is fantastic but they peaked with their debut, just incredible album. and Kid A was my #2 but I have no problem with it being #1. again, for a band to have the best album in consecutive decades is pretty cool.

I think all the Interpol albums are amazing. I actually would have put Our Love To Admire on the list over Turn on the Bright Lights, but I can understand the choice.

hammersavage
10-23-2009, 06:29 PM
I think all the Interpol albums are amazing. I actually would have put Our Love To Admire on the list over Turn on the Bright Lights, but I can understand the choice.

I think they go from best to worst as they were released: TOTBL, Antics, OLTA.

but Mojo's not here. WE HAVE TO WAIT TO HEAR THE RIGHT OPINION!!!!

TeeBone
12-16-2009, 07:22 PM
The decade is closing out and in terms of, your favorite 'so-and-so'.....what were they?

1. What was your favorite movie of the decade?

2. What was your favorite album of the decade?

3. Who was the Person of the Decade and why?

4. Who was the ronfez.net fan of the decade and why?

hammersavage
12-21-2009, 05:12 PM
Rolling Stone's top 20 albums:

20 The White Stripes - White Blood Cells
19 Amy Winehouse - Back To Black
18 MGMT - Oracular Spectacular
17 Beck - Sea Change
16 OutKast - Stankonia
15 Bruce Springsteen - The Rising
14 Jay-Z - The Black Album
13 U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind
12 LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver
11 Bob Dylan - Love And Theft
10 Kanye West - The College Dropout
09 M.I.A. - Kala
08 Bob Dylan - Modern Times
07 Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
06 Arcade Fire - Funeral
05 The White Stripes - Elephant
04 Jay-Z - The Blueprint
03 Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
02 The Strokes - Is This It
01 Radiohead - Kid A

pretty good for a magazine with no credibility left.



I look forward to the show's opinion on these topics.

underdog
12-21-2009, 05:17 PM
Rolling Stone's top 20 albums:



pretty good for a magazine with no credibility left.



I look forward to the show's opinion on these topics.

I think the Strokes are so amazingly overrated and they're in the top 5 of every list. It bugs me. They're like the Linkin Park of indie rock.

hammersavage
12-21-2009, 05:17 PM
I unfriend you.

underdog
12-21-2009, 05:19 PM
I unfriend you.

Nooooo.

Maybe I need to give them another listen or something. I really dig Julian Casablanca's solo album, so maybe I missed something.

hammersavage
12-21-2009, 05:19 PM
That's impossible then.

underdog
12-21-2009, 05:20 PM
That's impossible then.

I think the perfectly timed songs and perfectly messed up hair pushed me off of them. They seemed like a band set up by a record label.

TheGameHHH
12-21-2009, 05:37 PM
I think the Strokes are so amazingly overrated and they're in the top 5 of every list. It bugs me.

sub Arcade Fire in for the Strokes here and I feel the exact same way.

hammersavage
12-21-2009, 05:39 PM
you were never my friend.

HBox
12-21-2009, 05:42 PM
I agree about The Strokes. I don't dislike them but I don't see why people think they are so good.

Plus: if it is possible for a name to be self-indulgent then Julian Casablanca is.

underdog
12-21-2009, 05:46 PM
sub Arcade Fire in for the Strokes here and I feel the exact same way.

I've never given much of a listen to Arcade Fire, so I'll have to check them out.

[color=navy][size=2]I agree about The Strokes. I don't dislike them but I don't see why people think they are so good.

People agree (sort of) with me!

TheGameHHH
12-21-2009, 05:50 PM
you were never my friend.

thanks, now im crying

drusilla
12-21-2009, 06:00 PM
how is Mad Men, I have heard too many good things not to atleast DVR it

I'm catching up on it now, just started season 2 today & I hate it. Not a single likable character on the show. I want to punch Don Draper's wife in the face. But i'm too bored at work to pass on it & for some reason I'm now sucked into the lives of these characters that I LOATHE.

foodcourtdruide
12-21-2009, 06:44 PM
I feel like this was a shitty music decade, but a strong film decade, especially towards the end.

Kublakhan61
12-22-2009, 02:15 AM
If you don't agree with The Strokes making top 10 lists for the 2000's, then you are clearly a goldfish. Do you remember radio before the Strokes? It was all boy bands, No Doubt, Blink 182, T.A.T.U., O.A.R., a lot of utter shit. Then The Strokes brought R'n'R back to the forefront. They are making the tops of lists because they set decade up - they gave NYC r'n'r back - it was a place to be heard again.

Remember that a decade is 10 full years worth of time - not just the past few that you can easily recall.

spoon
12-22-2009, 02:18 AM
And no, I have nothing better to do

Yah, that's where I was going ass clown. Fuck you for beating me to it as well.

spoon
12-22-2009, 02:18 AM
If you don't agree with The Strokes making top 10 lists for the 2000's, then you are clearly a goldfish. Do you remember radio before the Strokes? It was all boy bands, No Doubt, Blink 182, T.A.T.U., O.A.R., a lot of utter shit. Then The Strokes brought R'n'R back to the forefront. They are making the tops of lists because they set decade up - they gave NYC r'n'r back - it was a place to be heard again.

Remember that a decade is 10 full years worth of time - not just the past few that you can easily recall.

I don't agree and who the fuck listens to radio for music these days!?

Kublakhan61
12-22-2009, 03:57 AM
I don't agree and who the fuck listens to radio for music these days!?

These days or ten years ago? Again, shortsighted. Which part don't agree with? One is a list of acts that were played on the radio in the early part of this decade and the other is a fact. Bands weren't breaking big in NYC until The Strokes put the heat on us again. Hip-hop was pouring out of the city and rock was underground.


I can't imagine not listening to the radio. How can we be part of and comment on culture when we don't engage with it?

spoon
12-22-2009, 03:57 PM
Strokes still suck goldfish lovers, along with your radio love. To say you overestimate their effect on music and radio is putting it lightly.

fezident
12-22-2009, 05:20 PM
The decade is closing out and in terms of, your favorite 'so-and-so'.....what were they?

1. What was your favorite movie of the decade?

2. What was your favorite album of the decade?

3. Who was the Person of the Decade and why?

4. Who was the ronfez.net fan of the decade and why?


1) THANK YOU FOR SMOKING. So sharp. So funny. I love the cadence and the tone.

2) THE BLACK PARADE by My Chemical Romance. I used to hate that band but.. then I heard TBP. It's a big, huge, anthemic, arena-rock, record and some of the most interesting lyrics & themes I've ever heard. I put this record right under A NIGHT AT THE OPERA.

3) Hmmm... my favorite musician is BUTCH WALKER. He can write, produce and perform masterfully. It's been fun to enjoy his career... watching it grow... and being inspired by him. And... he's a f'ing nice guy. It's rare to meet your hero and NOT be let down. The times I spent with him are/were unforgettable.

4) Me. I hate sports. I hate cigars. I hate strippers. I hate porn. I hate all the testosterone fueled stuff that most guys seem to dig. But... Ron & Fez (and Adam Carolla) have really kept me company over the last 10 years. I learned a lot. Got some interesting perspectives. And I feel like I truly "get" the show. So ... yeah... ME.

Kublakhan61
12-23-2009, 02:06 AM
Strokes still suck goldfish lovers, along with your radio love. To say you overestimate their effect on music and radio is putting it lightly.


Oh, The Strokes suck - they've made the same record three times which demonstrates their utter lack of talent. You seem to be misreading my point. I was merely attempting to explain why they keep making these lists. I don't think you're any position to say I'm overestimating their effect on radio when you have stated that you do not listen to it.

Slumbag
12-23-2009, 02:18 AM
The decade is closing out and in terms of, your favorite 'so-and-so'.....what were they?

1. What was your favorite movie of the decade?

2. What was your favorite album of the decade?

3. Who was the Person of the Decade and why?

4. Who was the ronfez.net fan of the decade and why?

1. OldBoy: It's disturbing, perverse, gross, and keeps you guessing until the end. Beautifully shot and acted. Unlike any movie I have ever seen.

2. 10,000 Days by Tool: I was thinking Lateralus, but I honestly dig Days more. The songs have such a strong meaning, and they are more diverse than the Lateralus songs.

3. Ricky Gervais: The man cannot strike out.

4. Big A: No necessary explanation.

I've been trying to do a movie Top 25, but it's difficult as shit. I think Savage started his in 06'.

paulisded
12-23-2009, 05:52 AM
Oh, The Strokes suck - they've made the same record three times which demonstrates their utter lack of talent. You seem to be misreading my point. I was merely attempting to explain why they keep making these lists. I don't think you're any position to say I'm overestimating their effect on radio when you have stated that you do not listen to it.

I'm one of those who has the Strokes on his decade list, and I'm not afraid to admit to it. Yes, the subsequent albums were nothing special, and even the first one is extremely derivative, but I've always been a sucker for catchy, lo-fi garage rock (even if it was recorded in a topnotch studio).

RhinoinMN
12-23-2009, 05:56 AM
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Kublakhan61
12-23-2009, 07:45 AM
I'm one of those who has the Strokes on his decade list, and I'm not afraid to admit to it. Yes, the subsequent albums were nothing special, and even the first one is extremely derivative, but I've always been a sucker for catchy, lo-fi garage rock (even if it was recorded in a topnotch studio).

I agree with the first album. It's on my decade list as well but the following albums were the same thing over and over. They turned out to be a total disappointment.

Zenica Times
12-23-2009, 08:36 AM
I have also said that "The wire" is the greatest show of all time. Each episode works as its own piece as each season works as a greater whole and the series wraps up as a complete work of brilliance. I just saw a picture of the drug slinging kids from S1, and I just looked at the characters and said "I loved that crew". There was so much to love about that show. Nice pick.

hammersavage
12-28-2009, 07:29 AM
According to the Ron and Fez show:

Best Movie:
Fez-The Dark Knight
Pepper-The Royal Tenenbaums
Dave-Mystic River
Ron-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Best TV show:
Fez-Survivor
Chris Tanley-The Wire
Dave-Lost
Ron-Daily Show/Colbert Report

realmenhatelife
12-28-2009, 08:13 AM
According to the Ron and Fez show:

Best Movie:
Fez-The Dark Knight
Pepper-The Royal Tenenbaums
Dave-Mystic River
Ron-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Best TV show:
Fez-Survivor
Chris Tanley-The Wire
Dave-Lost
Ron-Daily Show/Colbert Report

How is Dave's best movie not even a good movie. Oh, cus its Irish.

bradleyjerome
12-28-2009, 11:49 PM
my top 20 albums of the 2000s:

01. Radiohead - Kid A
02. Arcade Fire - Funeral
03. Sufjan Stevens - Seven Swans
04. The Knife - Silent Shout
05. Beck - Sea Change
06. Animal Collective - Sung Tongs
07. Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica
08. Outkast - Stankonia
09. Joanna Newsom - Ys
10. A Silver Mt Zion - Horses in the Sky
11. Man Man - The Man in a Blue Turban With a Face
12. The White Stripes - Elephant
13. Sigur Ros - ( )
14. Bargain Music - 77003
15. Wolf Parade - Apologies to the Queen Mary
16. Spoon - Kill the Moonlight
17. Fucked Up - The Chemistry of Common Life
18. Bobby Bare Jr. - From the End of Your Leash
19. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
20. Blackalicious - Nia

I'm sure that I've forgotten a few albums that will pain me to have left off.

Furtherman
02-10-2010, 07:36 AM
Movies:

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hammersavage
02-10-2010, 07:49 AM
Movies:

they definitely are