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thepaulo
08-28-2009, 07:31 AM
http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2009/08/27/inception-trailer-christopher-nolan-leonardo-dicaprio/?icid=webmail|wbml-aol|dl6|link3|http%3A%2F%2Finsidemovies.moviefone. com%2F2009%2F08%2F27%2Finception-trailer-christopher-nolan-leonardo-dicaprio%2F
new Christopher Nolan
hammersavage
08-28-2009, 07:33 AM
That's a trailer that piqued my interest, where Avatar waned my interest. Can't wait for it
thepaulo
08-28-2009, 07:34 AM
the trailer's good but it seems it might only be the tip of the iceberg
Gerald
08-28-2009, 10:45 PM
Early contender for must-see release of summer '10.
fezident
08-29-2009, 07:46 AM
Good little teaser.
The trick NOW, is to avoid seeing the entire goddamn movie in upcoming previews & commercials.
razorboy
08-29-2009, 07:55 AM
Nevermind, I thought this was another Brett Favre thread.
Doctor Z
08-29-2009, 07:56 AM
Definitely psyched for this one... DiCaprio is usually solid gold.
Judge Smails
08-29-2009, 08:10 AM
But now that the teaser trailer for 'Inception' has hit, there are bound to be some answers, right? Eh, not so much. The eerie, mysterious and extremely compelling one-minute clip does little to shed light on the movie's plot, but does a whole hell of a lot to leave us scratching our heads.
I like how they write this like its a bad thing. Every fucking trailer for every fucking movie should not answer any questions and leave us scatching our fucking heads.
I saw the trailer for the new Matt Dillon movie, "Armored", and I'm pretty sure I know 90% of the movie. I know what the scheme is. I know who backstabs who. I feel that I don't need to see the movie ever.
Don't believe me? Watch this. Every fucking trailer is like this anymore.
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Believe it or not, this version actually gives away less than the one I saw in the theater.
instrument
08-29-2009, 08:47 AM
Nolans films are a lock for me, even the prestige was enjoyable on a second viewing.
Furtherman
12-23-2009, 10:00 AM
French trailer for Chirstopher Nolan's Inception (http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/inception/french-trailer)
Gerald
12-23-2009, 11:52 PM
Radio Psychic, Radio Psychic: Nolan will decline to come back for a third Bat excursion. :glurps:
KC2OSO
12-24-2009, 12:00 AM
hey Paulo, that wasn't the greatest movie you fuck.
i thought you were our filter
we love you but don't give us
crap
thepaulo
12-24-2009, 06:04 AM
hey Paulo, that wasn't the greatest movie you fuck.
i thought you were our filter
we love you but don't give us
crap
:glurps:
sailor
12-24-2009, 10:18 AM
Nolans films are a lock for me, even the prestige was enjoyable on a second viewing.
what do you mean, even the prestige? loved that movie.
French trailer for Chirstopher Nolan's Inception (http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/inception/french-trailer)
invalid video id. looks like they pulled it.
Gerald
12-24-2009, 10:58 AM
invalid video id. looks like they pulled it.
I saw a horrid, herky-jerky video of the French trailer on youtube where the dubbed dialogue wasn't even in sync. The film still looked incredible. Nolan keeps improving by leaps and bounds as a visualist judging by the footage I saw.
I'm going to try my best to know as little about the film's story going in. I'm really tantalized by the possibilities of what's in store here. I could be wildly off-base but I detected kind of a Dark City vibe with the nature of the storytelling.
I saw a horrid, herky-jerky video of the French trailer on youtube where the dubbed dialogue wasn't even in sync. The film still looked incredible. Nolan keeps improving by leaps and bounds as a visualist judging by the footage I saw.
I'm going to try my best to know as little about the film's story going in. I'm really tantalized by the possibilities of what's in store here. I could be wildly off-base but I detected kind of a Dark City vibe with the nature of the storytelling.
I feel the same way. In some ways I am glad I saw this trailer in French. I was desperate for more after seeing the teaser but now that I saw some very vague and seemingly unconnected snippets with no understandable dialogue I am even more intrigued but I have no desire to see anymore. I will be there day one and I want to go in with as much of a blank slate as possible.
Gerald
12-28-2009, 12:51 PM
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Furtherman
05-05-2010, 06:29 AM
Here's the newly released synopsis:
Acclaimed filmmaker Christopher Nolan directs an international cast in an original sci-fi actioner that travels around the globe and into the intimate and infinite world of dreams. Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) is a skilled thief, the absolute best in the dangerous art of extraction, stealing valuable secrets from deep within the subconscious during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable. Cobb's rare ability has made him a coveted player in this treacherous new world of corporate espionage, but it has also made him an international fugitive and cost him everything he has ever loved. Now Cobb is being offered a chance at redemption. One last job could give him his life back but only if he can accomplish the impossible-inception. Instead of the perfect heist, Cobb and his team of specialists have to pull off the reverse: their task is not to steal an idea but to plant one. If they succeed, it could be the perfect crime. But no amount of careful planning or expertise can prepare the team for the dangerous enemy that seems to predict their every move. An enemy that only Cobb could have seen coming. This summer, your mind is the scene of the crime.
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hammersavage
05-05-2010, 06:47 AM
This will definitely be the movie of the summer. Nolan is a great filmmaker.
Furtherman
05-12-2010, 08:32 AM
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This looks epically wild.
Christopher Nolan is my favorite filmmaker working today by far. I'm glad he can take time to make movies like this between Batmans.
Furtherman
06-24-2010, 08:14 AM
This movie will probably be awesome, judging by this:
First review says Inception is too smart to succeed (http://scifiwire.com/2010/06/first-review-says-incepti.php#more)
"The mind-blowing movie event of the summer arrives just in time to hold back the flow of Hollywood sputum that's been sliming the multiplex. Inception ... will be called many things, starting with James Bond Meets The Matrix. You can feel the vibe of Ridley Scott's Blade Runner in it, and Nolan's own Memento and The Dark Knight. But Inception glows with a blue-flame intensity all its own. Nolan creates a dream world that he wants us to fill with our own secrets. I can't think of a better goal for any filmmaker. Of course, trusting the intelligence of the audience can cost Nolan at the box office. We're so used to being treated like idiots. How to cope with a grand-scale epic, shot in six countries at a reported cost of $160 million, that turns your head around six ways from Sunday? Dive in and drive yourself crazy, that's how.''
Gutter
06-24-2010, 08:22 AM
can't wait for that......gonna be awesome. still can't explain what its about to anyone, but yea.....i think its gonna be awesome.
Contra
06-24-2010, 03:39 PM
By the time I see shutter island this will be out, that's a lot of mindbending Leo in a short amount of time
Furtherman
06-28-2010, 11:42 AM
New IMAX spot glimpses a couple new scenes:
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IamFogHat
07-04-2010, 12:37 PM
Every once and while advertising can be pretty cool and here's a great campaign for Inception.
http://themovieblog.com/2010/07/inceptions-cool-outdoor-advertising-spots
hammersavage
07-16-2010, 02:08 PM
holy shit
thepaulo
07-16-2010, 02:15 PM
Every once and while advertising can be pretty cool and here's a great campaign for Inception.
http://themovieblog.com/2010/07/inceptions-cool-outdoor-advertising-spots
brilliant.
I could go on and on about how much I love this movie. It's easily one of the best I've ever seen and maybe even THE best. I'll let some time pass before I decide on that.
However judging from the audience this is way to smart to succeed. I heard complaints everywhere from it was too hard to follow to typical complaints about endings that don't leave everything wrapped up neatly. Which is unfortunate but not surprising. The theaters are filled with dogshit for a reason.
Fallon
07-16-2010, 04:42 PM
I loooooooooooooved it.
People just need to pay attention and it's easy enough to follow.
It's been 2 hours since I got out of the theater and I'm already itching to see it again.
YourAmishDaddy
07-17-2010, 12:23 AM
Epic.
sailor
07-17-2010, 03:42 AM
going tonight. is it worth it to see the imax version? also, the theater we go to apparently has regular and digital projection. is the digital supposed to be better quality?
Fallon
07-17-2010, 06:24 AM
going tonight. is it worth it to see the imax version? also, the theater we go to apparently has regular and digital projection. is the digital supposed to be better quality?
I went to the Imax to see it. There is some really cool shit in the movie and I think it's worth seeing on the best screen possible.
Digital is better than regular is well.
Tall_James
07-17-2010, 08:15 AM
I enjoyed it. The ultimate "smart" action movie.
Contra
07-17-2010, 08:52 AM
Cinematography, amazing. Storyline, layered nicely and well executed. Acting, superb and some of the best by each individual. All and all, one of the best films I've ever seen!
I expected almost every complaint that has come out, because I know the majority of US citizens are stupid.
booster11373
07-17-2010, 02:20 PM
Saw it loved it. Nolan is.........
I saw it for a second time this afternoon. After my first viewing it was my opinion that Cobb stayed in Limbo after Ariadne's kick and created everything that happened afterward he created. After a second viewing I think he really did go home. The reason I think that is because of the top's wobble right before the cut to black. When the top is shown spinning in the dreamscape it is always spinning perfectly, looking almost as if it were just standing. It looks that way in Mal's safe and on the table with old Saito. So that's why i think he really did go home.
But this film is really up to interpretation. Those kids are dressed and were in the same position in the end as Cobb was seeing them all through the film. And how exactly did he wash up on that beach? A big point in the film was that you could tell you were in a dream when you couldn't remember where it started. Cobb closed his eyes holding Mal and next was on the beach. I read elsewhere that Cobb always had his wedding ring on in reality and it was always off in the dreamscape, and it was supposedly on in the last scene. I'm not going to check that for myself until I get this on Blu-Ray.
I also originally had feared that the whole movie was a dream because of one thing: When Ariadne was creating the landscape for the dreams I thought in my first viewing I saw a model of the city Cobb and Mal created well before she would know anything about it. On second viewing it wasn't the same, it was more likely one of the dreamscapes they were hatching the plan in, perhaps even the first dream layer.
This was a wonderful movie, though. After a second viewing it became clear that final scene wasn't just tacked on to create controversy. The movie is up interpretation in a good way, and there's plenty to go on in creating all sorts of theories.
booster11373
07-17-2010, 04:09 PM
I saw it for a second time this afternoon. After my first viewing it was my opinion that Cobb stayed in Limbo after Ariadne's kick and created everything that happened afterward he created. After a second viewing I think he really did go home. The reason I think that is because of the top's wobble right before the cut to black. When the top is shown spinning in the dreamscape it is always spinning perfectly, looking almost as if it were just standing. It looks that way in Mal's safe and on the table with old Saito. So that's why i think he really did go home.
But this film is really up to interpretation. Those kids are dressed and were in the same position in the end as Cobb was seeing them all through the film. And how exactly did he wash up on that beach? A big point in the film was that you could tell you were in a dream when you couldn't remember where it started. Cobb closed his eyes holding Mal and next was on the beach. I read elsewhere that Cobb always had his wedding ring on in reality and it was always off in the dreamscape, and it was supposedly on in the last scene. I'm not going to check that for myself until I get this on Blu-Ray.
I also originally had feared that the whole movie was a dream because of one thing: When Ariadne was creating the landscape for the dreams I thought in my first viewing I saw a model of the city Cobb and Mal created well before she would know anything about it. On second viewing it wasn't the same, it was more likely one of the dreamscapes they were hatching the plan in, perhaps even the first dream layer.
This was a wonderful movie, though. After a second viewing it became clear that final scene wasn't just tacked on to create controversy. The movie is up interpretation in a good way, and there's plenty to go on in creating all sorts of theories.
Cobb was home no doubt. Here is why, Cobb interacts with people once the plane lands I dont think anytime during a dream sequence Cobb or the team interacts with anyone other then the subject
sailor
07-17-2010, 04:12 PM
spoiler tags don't work on mobile devices, apparently. glad i stopped reading that during the first sentence.
Oooh, didn't know spoiler tags didn't work on mobile phones. Sorry, but glad I didn't ruin anything. There are more coming so stop reading now.
One thing I didn't consider about the ending: Cobb spins the top but then walks away. There has to be some significance to that. Maybe it means at that point it didn't matter if it was real, for all intents and purposes he was "home," and that's why the movie cut off before we could tell decisively whether the top was going to fall. Maybe it meant he didn't care that it was a dream. Maybe finally seeing the face of his children was all the proof he needed that he was home. I'm going to be thinking about this movie for a long time.
But one possible hole I found about the last dream layer. That's becoming a mystery to me the more I think of it. Apparently they can leave limbo by dying, just like any dream layer. So what's the big deal? I'm guessing at that point it's too deep to tell between dream and reality but that's just a theory. And if it was limbo that would mean that Fischer has to have died, which means he couldn't have been revived. And why did he get up after being shot in the chest as if nothing had happened just from a defibrillator? And if he wasn't dead that wasn't limbo, which means that Saito should not have been there. Nolan spelled out the rules of the dream very clearly and followed them but when it got to the end and limbo everything went soft and there were no rules. Just a minor quibble, though.
KC2OSO
07-17-2010, 07:20 PM
:glurps:
PaulO I'm a douche. Sorry for such a shitty post. You're a good dude.
Dan G
07-17-2010, 07:55 PM
A big deal was made about the totem's not being allowed to be touched by anyone. Cobb's totem seemed to be the spinning top, but then we discover that it was originally Mal's as we see her keeping it in her doll house safe.
I think Cobb's actual totem was his children. He specifically said that in his dreams he never sees his children's faces and that's how he knows it's a dream. At the end he finally sees his kids faces as he simultaneously spins the top. Was the spinning top insignificant to the ending? He saw his kids faces which revealed he wasn't in a dream.
I just don't know the rules on whether projections can be totems.
I should also add...
At the very beginning When Cobb is brought in to dining room, one of the guards says something like "we found him on the beach with a gun and this" and then the guard spins the top on the table and then the older Saito touches it.
So there has to be something said about all these hands touching his totem (no pun intended), when such a big deal was made later in the film about never letting anyone touch your totem.
sailor
07-17-2010, 09:59 PM
At the very beginning When Cobb is brought in to dining room, one of the guards says something like "we found him on the beach with a gun and this" and then the guard spins the top on the table and then the older Saito touches it.
So there has to be something said about all these hands touching his totem (no pun intended), when such a big deal was made later in the film about never letting anyone touch your totem.
i think it only mattered in reality someone touching a totem, but i'm not sure.
sailor
07-17-2010, 10:00 PM
Cobb was home no doubt. Here is why, Cobb interacts with people once the plane lands I dont think anytime during a dream sequence Cobb or the team interacts with anyone other then the subject
not true. there's the cabbie they bump to get his ride, for one example.
YourAmishDaddy
07-17-2010, 11:35 PM
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It wouldn't matter if Saito touched Cobb's totem in the dream. He still wouldn't know what it really felt like in reality. Totem's are used to make sure you aren't in someone else's dream since the dreamer would not know exactly how it would feel and act. The interesting question becomes what if you are in your own dream? The totem would be useless.
Kublakhan61
07-18-2010, 07:01 AM
Way Too Much Action for me but I enjoyed being entertained while it was playing.
As for the ending: I figured he didn't go home but remained in the dream because his children didn't age a day from the time he left them (though how long he was gone is unknown), his father was waiting for him at the airport - how did he know?, were the kids in the same outfits as they had been in his mind?
I think he's dreaming but I also think it doesn't matter either way, seemed like Cobb was OK with whatever reality he was in at that moment. The film ended with a deliberately uncertainty - Cobb is no longer certain of reality but he doesn't care becuase he can see his children's faces.
I'm not going to say best movie ever, or of the year even - but best popcorn movie in recent times easily.
zentraed
07-18-2010, 03:25 PM
Spoiler alert:
I watched it for the second time today. I was convinced that not only was Cobb dreaming, but that also someone was trying to perform inception on him.
There were two things stood out to me. One was the line about "taking a leap of faith." The other was the poem about the train (along with the train that appeared in the first layer). Each of those were repeated word-for-word at different occasions.
Also, Mal is a different character in his memories than when she appears unexpectedly. She always targets the center of his attention in his current dreamscape. Whether stabbing Helen Page's character on the bridge, or shooting Cillian Murphy (I'm terrible with characters' names), she's always trying to destroy his fantasy. The Mal locked in the basement and even the Mal that dies in limbo are both poor imitations like he described.
There were some other things I noticed too, but I think Mal is the key to whole thing.
fezident
07-18-2010, 03:27 PM
Fantastic.
This is the most ambitious movie I've ever seen. It, boldly, does not underestimate it's audience. At no point does this film become a commercial for the soundtrack, or the videogame, or the soft drink, etc.
Nolan has created a movie that stands alone. Even WITH it's open ending, it doesn't feel the first installment of a series. It feels self contained.
To see this movie is to be totally engrossed in it's characters and plot.
My only complaint was that the music seemed to drown out the dialog. I had to really concentrate to physically hear what was being said... and then also to comprehend it.
A truly great movie. Totally satisfying.
To see this movie is to be totally engrossed in it's characters and plot.
That is so true. Walking out of the theater after my first viewing was such an odd sensation. I felt totally sucked in to that world and once it was over it was a little jarring. I don't think I've ever been to a movie that made me feel that way. I think it's a testament to how many levels this movie succeeds on.
Dan 'Hampton
07-18-2010, 04:15 PM
The big question: did Fez make it through the movie, especially considering the elevator and bridge scenes, the questioning of reality, and his recent movie theater panic.
Brad_Rush
07-18-2010, 05:47 PM
Just saw it for the first time tonight. Definitely my favorite movie this year. Lots of action, great storyline, perfectly casted/acted. It was a completely engrossing movie that I feel like I need to see again to figure out what really happened.
YourAmishDaddy
07-19-2010, 12:33 AM
You musn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling...
Willmore
07-19-2010, 07:05 AM
Saw it Sunday. Brilliant.
I have a half-dozen half-baked ideas about the film, but I really can't be certain about any of them, so I'll just wait until Nolan explains it in the commentary (fat chance), or the sequel comes out.
booster11373
07-19-2010, 07:30 AM
Saw it Sunday. Brilliant.
I have a half-dozen half-baked ideas about the film, but I really can't be certain about any of them, so I'll just wait until Nolan explains it in the commentary (fat chance), or the sequel comes out.
Would you really want to see a sequel to this movie?
Willmore
07-19-2010, 07:57 AM
Would you really want to see a sequel to this movie?
Didn't Nolan say that he had 3 parts in his mind, if the first one was successful. I'm sure he's not going to do a conventional sequel, but this world that he's created is certainly entertaining enough, and a great playground for a director, so he might do something.
booster11373
07-19-2010, 07:58 AM
Didn't Nolan say that he had 3 parts in his mind, if the first one was successful. I'm sure he's not going to do a conventional sequel, but this world that he's created is certainly entertaining enough, and a great playground for a director, so he might do something.
I hadnt read that
Willmore
07-19-2010, 07:59 AM
By the way, is anyone else a bit tired of Juno playing Juno in everything she does. She literally has no range.
Juno, Whip It, Inception, that Cisco commercial, it's all her, there is no acting.
Willmore
07-19-2010, 08:04 AM
I hadnt read that
I can't find it now, so maybe I was thinking of something else.
fezident
07-19-2010, 08:09 AM
By the way, is anyone else a bit tired of Juno playing Juno in everything she does. She literally has no range.
Juno, Whip It, Inception, that Cisco commercial, it's all her, there is no acting.
I hear ya.
But... the same can be said for Jack Nicholson. He's a terrible ACTOR but, an amazing on-screen presence. He's been playing "Jack" for 30 years with no complaints. (the guy even wears his clothes from his own closet to the set!)
Same for the kid who played McLovin'. And also Michael Cera. And Jesse Eisenberg.
Do one thing and do it well.
Ellen Page is the go-to-chick if you want a young, fast talkin', somewhat smarmy, attractive female.
hammersavage
07-19-2010, 08:15 AM
I hear ya.
But... the same can be said for Jack Nicholson. He's a terrible ACTOR but, an amazing on-screen presence.
i should ban you
CountryBob
07-19-2010, 11:01 AM
That is so true. Walking out of the theater after my first viewing was such an odd sensation. I felt totally sucked in to that world and once it was over it was a little jarring. I don't think I've ever been to a movie that made me feel that way. I think it's a testament to how many levels this movie succeeds on.
Yeah - I walked out and sat in my ride for a few minutes looking at the clouds and thinking about reality vs. dreams. It took me a long time to re-boot back to my normal life - I was just listening and observing around some friends right after the movie. This was not normal for me.
thepaulo
07-19-2010, 05:01 PM
PaulO I'm a douche. Sorry for such a shitty post. You're a good dude.
:smile:
Gerald
07-19-2010, 11:01 PM
I'm in the Rob boat of being more respectful and appreciative of the attempt than smitten with the totality of the end result.
angrymissy
07-20-2010, 07:06 AM
Saw it in IMAX last night and LOVED it. I have a really hard time sitting through long movies, but this one had me engrossed and paying a lot of attention and I didn't even realize how long it was. I was expecting it to be really difficult to understand, but they pretty much lay everything out for you.
angrymissy
07-20-2010, 07:08 AM
The guy that played Arthur was the kid from 3rd Rock from the Sun. Was driving me nuts the entire movie trying to figure out what he was from.
angrymissy
07-20-2010, 07:15 AM
Oooh, didn't know spoiler tags didn't work on mobile phones. Sorry, but glad I didn't ruin anything. There are more coming so stop reading now.
One thing I didn't consider about the ending: Cobb spins the top but then walks away. There has to be some significance to that. Maybe it means at that point it didn't matter if it was real, for all intents and purposes he was "home," and that's why the movie cut off before we could tell decisively whether the top was going to fall. Maybe it meant he didn't care that it was a dream. Maybe finally seeing the face of his children was all the proof he needed that he was home. I'm going to be thinking about this movie for a long time.
But one possible hole I found about the last dream layer. That's becoming a mystery to me the more I think of it. Apparently they can leave limbo by dying, just like any dream layer. So what's the big deal? I'm guessing at that point it's too deep to tell between dream and reality but that's just a theory. And if it was limbo that would mean that Fischer has to have died, which means he couldn't have been revived. And why did he get up after being shot in the chest as if nothing had happened just from a defibrillator? And if he wasn't dead that wasn't limbo, which means that Saito should not have been there. Nolan spelled out the rules of the dream very clearly and followed them but when it got to the end and limbo everything went soft and there were no rules. Just a minor quibble, though.
spoilers below phone viewers
I agree on the ending and noticed it immediately. The top always spun perfectly every other time they showed it (and they made it a point to explain that in the movie), and at the end, it started wobbling. Either he is truly home, doesn't care either way, or possibly it represents a breakdown/blur between limbo and his true life.
That's the only thing that was confusing to me. If he was shot in the chest, why did he just get up and be 100% fine after a shock from a defibrillator? Why was Cobb able to "escape" his original limbo with his wife by laying down on the tracks at the end and then they immediately woke? If they could have escaped from limbo by dying (which they said earlier on, you couldn't do), then why did they stay there for so long, to the point where he had to make her believe it was real life?
Willmore
07-20-2010, 07:25 AM
It's Tuesday, R&F talked about it yesterday, fuck spoiler tags, if you don't want to know anything about the movie, you shouldn't be in this thread.
The totem was described as being truly original, so that only the person who owns it will know its true weight and properties, which would not have been possible to recreate in a dream state.
Now, for Cobb this is not exactly true.
It would be possible for him and for Mal to create a dream totem that would have the exact properties of his own totem. So, every time that he spins the totem in the "real world", and it falls, he could be living in his or Mal's dream world and simply being delusional.
angrymissy
07-20-2010, 07:27 AM
And I wouldn't like a sequel, I'd rather have a prequel explaining how everyone got into this "profession".
Chigworthy
07-21-2010, 12:11 AM
I really didn't enjoy this film. I found it very boring. It felt like ashort film was stretched to 2 hours. For every 30 seconds I was in the theater, it felt like an hour. I will have to try watching it again at home.
sailor
07-21-2010, 12:36 AM
I really didn't enjoy this film. I found it very boring. It felt like ashort film was stretched to 2 hours. For every 30 seconds I was in the theater, it felt like an hour. I will have to try watching it again at home.
so, you were in the first dream level?
thepaulo
07-21-2010, 04:03 AM
I'm actually being bugged by the similarities between Inception and Shutter Island. The levels of reality and madness centered on a doomed relationship and phantom children.
The two films could be spliced together and open up to an even more disturbing nightmare world.
CountryBob
07-21-2010, 04:21 AM
The guy that played Arthur was the kid from 3rd Rock from the Sun. Was driving me nuts the entire movie trying to figure out what he was from.
I was doing the same thing - knew I'd seen him somewhere but I figured it was in my dreams - Level 1 of course.
hammersavage
07-21-2010, 07:10 AM
saw it again last night. liked it better the second time.
here's two awesome articles from New York magazine:
Was Cobb the one being Incepted? (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/07/inception_theory.html)
Yusuf the chemist explains a LOT (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/07/inceptions_dileep_rao_answers.html)
Chigworthy
07-21-2010, 07:21 AM
I'm actually being bugged by the similarities between Inception and Shutter Island. The levels of reality and madness centered on a doomed relationship and phantom children.
The two films could be spliced together and open up to an even more disturbing nightmare world.
My wife pointed out other similarities on the way home from the theater last night, such as the wife's suicide.
Both of us still think we saw a different movie then everyone else, since we both didn't like it at all.
grlNIN
07-21-2010, 12:24 PM
But this film is really up to interpretation. Those kids are dressed and were in the same position in the end as Cobb was seeing them all through the film. And how exactly did he wash up on that beach? A big point in the film was that you could tell you were in a dream when you couldn't remember where it started. Cobb closed his eyes holding Mal and next was on the beach. I read elsewhere that Cobb always had his wedding ring on in reality and it was always off in the dreamscape, and it was supposedly on in the last scene. I'm not going to check that for myself until I get this on Blu-Ray.
There are a few things mentioned by Caine and others in the film that lead one to believe (well me at least) that the death of Mal was relatively recent. Such as Caine pointing out about the stuffed animals only tiding the kids over for so long and Cobb's son asking if "mom was coming back with him" and Cobb's response of "we talked about this..." Combine that with his profession of Extraction/Inception and the fact that dream reality's time is extended depending on your length in that dream, that for Cobb (being in and out of dreams) it would feel to him that he has been away from his kids for years (as opposed to say weeks or a few months)
When Cobb is eating with Saito and they both slowly come to figure out who they both are and why Cobb is there it shows how Cobb had no idea who he was or how he ended up on the beach. In that case the totem is what triggered Cobb & to a lesser extent Saito's memory (since Saito had seen & held the totem when Cobb dropped it in the bathroom during the first dream layer)
The airplane/airport scene at the end led me to believe that they pulled it off simply by the expressions of acknowledgment between the group (even Fisher looked like he sort of knew when Cobb passed him). Also, if it were still a dream (to incept Fisher) and the group were in the airport with Fischer claiming their baggage-and visibly acknowledging one another-would Fisher's subconscious have noticed and begun to attack them? (too far?)
I figured that Mal and Cobb had sedated themselves in their own home to reach the deepest level within their subconscious, which was akin to the limbo shore that Cobb washed up on to bring Saito back. Also when Yasuf brought Cobb down to the basement for the people who could no longer dream without sedatives, it seemed as if Cobb was completely familiar with what was going on-and eager to use the drug as a guinea pig.
grlNIN
07-21-2010, 12:27 PM
Also, Joseph Gordon-Levitt is a stone, cold fox.
hammersavage
07-21-2010, 12:33 PM
Also, Joseph Gordon-Levitt is a stone, cold fox.
yea, the chick i went with last night wouldn't shut up about him.
he's rumored to play the Riddler in the next Batman movie from Nolan.
grlNIN
07-21-2010, 12:34 PM
yea, the chick i went with last night wouldn't shut up about him.
he's rumored to play the Riddler in the next Batman movie from Nolan.
That is ironic, considering he looks exactly like Ledger.
Please......don't look at my FB page :\
yea, the chick i went with last night wouldn't shut up about him.
he's rumored to play the Riddler in the next Batman movie from Nolan.
That's the only rumor about the next Batman I might buy into. Once an actor appears in a Nolan film and puts on a good performance they tend to keep reappearing. Not to mention that sounds like a great casting and Gordon-Levitt is a great actor.
hammersavage
07-21-2010, 12:38 PM
Please......don't look at my FB page :\
i won't.
psychooooo
grlNIN
07-21-2010, 12:42 PM
...and i will see you in another 5 months!
fezident
07-22-2010, 06:13 AM
Both of us still think we saw a different movie then everyone else, since we both didn't like it at all.
I know the feeling. I had a similar experience in the few days after Inglorious Basterds was released.
Sinestro
07-24-2010, 05:04 AM
So what did Fisher do with his dad's Empire???
Chigworthy
07-24-2010, 05:40 AM
So what did Fisher do with his dad's Empire???
It's inferred that he will dissolve it when Saito makes the call to clear Cobb's name.
Furtherman
07-24-2010, 09:53 AM
Incredible. Loved it. I will be seeing it again, as I still have a few questions on all the rules of the dreamscapes, but it was clear to me at the end he went home. The spinning top was just a little nod to the audience. The one thing I was a little confused with was the "dream machine" they used to sleep. What purpose would one serve in a dream? It's not real in a dream. I guess it's just the power of suggestion.
Can't wait to see it again.
http://i28.tinypic.com/69kt2x.jpg
WampusCrandle
07-24-2010, 11:18 AM
saw it last night, and I can't wait to see it again in theaters ... most likely tonight or tomorrow
Contra
07-24-2010, 03:13 PM
One thing about the last shift from Cobb's limbo to saito's. I think when he washes up on the shore in saito's limbo it was him letting go of his limbo and falling into sairo's limbo. However time being somewhat of a paradox down there its years later in saito's limbo. Just a theory, love this movie!
Chigworthy
07-24-2010, 05:32 PM
Dammit, I'm pissed I didn't like this flick. I have to see it again.
Dammit, I'm pissed I didn't like this flick. I have to see it again.
What's THIS all about?
angrymissy
07-24-2010, 05:53 PM
saito is older than cobb at the end because he died and went to limbo sooner than cobb.. since time runs so much faster in limbo, he was much older because he got there minutes before cobb
Hello Missy,
It's me Rube. Are you really angry?
Tell the truth.
Pitdoc
07-24-2010, 10:02 PM
...but bought a ticket for Inception , & then walked into the Salt showing.Movies & directors like this need to be supported more ( Salt was OK, but nothing like the mind fuck Inception was .Want to see it a 2nd time on a bigger screen).
Sinestro
07-25-2010, 04:34 PM
But this film is really up to interpretation. Those kids are dressed and were in the same position in the end as Cobb was seeing them all through the film. And how exactly did he wash up on that beach? A big point in the film was that you could tell you were in a dream when you couldn't remember where it started. Cobb closed his eyes holding Mal and next was on the beach. I read elsewhere that Cobb always had his wedding ring on in reality and it was always off in the dreamscape, and it was supposedly on in the last scene. I'm not going to check that for myself until I get this on Blu-Ray.
It was the opposite. In Dreamscape he always had his ring on. (except for the one time when they showed him and Mal holding hands when they were older and only Mal had a ring on).
When Cobb showed his passport leaving the airport, he had no ring.
They did a good job of keeping his ring hand off camera for a couple of the scenes. If a totem is something that a person makes, could Cobbs Totem be his ring. and the scene where they were both old where the ring is on Mal lead to Cobb's "don't let anyone touch, hold your totem" rule. For in that moment in time when they grew old together was real at that point so Cobb had to Incept Mal to get her back to reality but we all knowe what happened.
Funny, Mal in spanish means bad. So Mal was really bad.
fezident
07-25-2010, 05:40 PM
Good discussion...
http://bventertainment.go.com/tv/buenavista/atm/web_exclusives.html
IamFogHat
07-26-2010, 03:24 PM
We just got back and both fucking loved it. I can't think of another movie that held me at the edge of my seat for as long as Inception did (I was like that literally from the beginning of the snow level until the end). Can't wait to see it again.
Also the time dilation was an awesome story device, Nolan is an amazing writer.
underdog
07-26-2010, 04:13 PM
Did any of the "SUPER HOLLYWOOD MOVIE"ness of the movie bother anyone else? The horrible, cliche movie gun fights stand out most to me. It sort of took me out of the movie at points.
Chigworthy
07-26-2010, 04:36 PM
Did any of the "SUPER HOLLYWOOD MOVIE"ness of the movie bother anyone else? The horrible, cliche movie gun fights stand out most to me. It sort of took me out of the movie at points.
YES!!!! I think this is what I most disliked about it. It seemed so out of place. The whole concept that the sub conscious people would attack the invaders seemed like such a shoehorn to have corny action sequences. I really disliked the hallway/elevator/rotating van fight, it was like watching some Jet Li wirefighting garbage. I think I would have really enjoyed this as a psychological thriller rather than an action movie. The psycholigical aspects of the story really still have me thinking, but the action just detracted from it.
underdog
07-26-2010, 04:43 PM
YES!!!! I think this is what I most disliked about it. It seemed so out of place. The whole concept that the sub conscious people would attack the invaders seemed like such a shoehorn to have corny action sequences. I really disliked the hallway/elevator/rotating van fight, it was like watching some Jet Li wirefighting garbage. I think I would have really enjoyed this as a psychological thriller rather than an action movie. The psycholigical aspects of the story really still have me thinking, but the action just detracted from it.
I also hated the "the military made this technology" and that's all they mentioned about it's origin.
sailor
07-26-2010, 04:53 PM
I also hated the "the military made this technology" and that's all they mentioned about it's origin.
there was talk in here about a prequel, but i don't know if it was based on any solid info.
underdog
07-26-2010, 07:00 PM
there was talk in here about a prequel, but i don't know if it was based on any solid info.
I would welcome a prequel, just so I could learn about this stuff.
Willmore
07-27-2010, 07:13 AM
I also hated the "the military made this technology" and that's all they mentioned about it's origin.
If there was a movie about a Hacker hacking the Internet, do you need the whole story of the Internet? Or (if you weren't aware of it beforehand), would you just accept a short explanation of what it is and simply get into it. It's a two and a half hour movie, do you really need another 30 minutes to discuss the origins of the technology itself?
Willmore
07-27-2010, 07:21 AM
YES!!!! I think this is what I most disliked about it. It seemed so out of place. The whole concept that the sub conscious people would attack the invaders seemed like such a shoehorn to have corny action sequences. I really disliked the hallway/elevator/rotating van fight, it was like watching some Jet Li wirefighting garbage. I think I would have really enjoyed this as a psychological thriller rather than an action movie. The psycholigical aspects of the story really still have me thinking, but the action just detracted from it.
It was a trade off. Psychological thrillers never make any money, thus they never get big budgets, and some of the visuals in Inception were worth having to sit through the silly action. That said, there really was too much action. I would have preferred the third level - the ice fortress to be simply a room with a door leading to the hospital room instead of a giant snow level. With the chase scene earlier in the movie and the first and second level fights, it was enough action, in fact, it was a distraction from what was a very tense and interesting plot point in the film.
brettmojo
07-27-2010, 11:05 AM
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CountryBob
07-27-2010, 11:44 AM
I went and saw this again. Normally, I dont see movies twice this quickly but the girlfriend wanted to see it. I loved it the first time viewing but the second time around I actually fell asleep a few times. For me I guess that since I knew what happens - I didnt have the same interest as before. With that said, I dont think that this movie is such a groundbreaking masterpiece that many claim it to be.
sailor
07-27-2010, 12:52 PM
If there was a movie about a Hacker hacking the Internet, do you need the whole story of the Internet? Or (if you weren't aware of it beforehand), would you just accept a short explanation of what it is and simply get into it. It's a two and a half hour movie, do you really need another 30 minutes to discuss the origins of the technology itself?
The military made that technology, too.
Contra
07-27-2010, 02:59 PM
YES!!!! I think this is what I most disliked about it. It seemed so out of place. The whole concept that the sub conscious people would attack the invaders seemed like such a shoehorn to have corny action sequences. I really disliked the hallway/elevator/rotating van fight, it was like watching some Jet Li wirefighting garbage. I think I would have really enjoyed this as a psychological thriller rather than an action movie. The psycholigical aspects of the story really still have me thinking, but the action just detracted from it.
Leo already made that movie
http://www.traileraddict.com/content/paramount-pictures/shutter_island-6.jpg
underdog
07-27-2010, 08:54 PM
If there was a movie about a Hacker hacking the Internet, do you need the whole story of the Internet? Or (if you weren't aware of it beforehand), would you just accept a short explanation of what it is and simply get into it. It's a two and a half hour movie, do you really need another 30 minutes to discuss the origins of the technology itself?
I know what the internet is. I don't need an explanation.
They could have eliminated some of the 45 minutes of 100 people shooting unlimited rounds at the main characters, but only hitting once, while the main characters would shoot once and kill every nameless, bad character on the screen and added in a 5 minute explanation.
Chigworthy
07-28-2010, 07:42 AM
The tags for this thread are kind of gay.
Willmore
07-28-2010, 07:56 AM
They could have eliminated some of the 45 minutes of 100 people shooting unlimited rounds at the main characters, but only hitting once, while the main characters would shoot once and kill every nameless, bad character on the screen and added in a 5 minute explanation.
They had a 20-30 minute explanation separated into small chunks, it's called exposition. Now, they didn't give you the whole full back story of how the technology was created, because the origins of any technology are boring as fuck. Read about the origins of GPS on Wikipedia, that shit will put you to sleep.
I know what the internet is. I don't need an explanation.
Bingo. You know what it IS, do you know every single story about how it started, how it went from a military computer network research, to universities, to ARPANET, to Al Gore (so he says), to a shitload of other minor stories that all build to what is now simply the Internet.
cougarjake13
07-28-2010, 03:46 PM
Oooh, didn't know spoiler tags didn't work on mobile phones. Sorry, but glad I didn't ruin anything. There are more coming so stop reading now.
But one possible hole I found about the last dream layer. That's becoming a mystery to me the more I think of it. Apparently they can leave limbo by dying, just like any dream layer. So what's the big deal? I'm guessing at that point it's too deep to tell between dream and reality but that's just a theory. And if it was limbo that would mean that Fischer has to have died, which means he couldn't have been revived. And why did he get up after being shot in the chest as if nothing had happened just from a defibrillator? And if he wasn't dead that wasn't limbo, which means that Saito should not have been there. Nolan spelled out the rules of the dream very clearly and followed them but when it got to the end and limbo everything went soft and there were no rules. Just a minor quibble, though.
im thinking that when they go to mals apt and adriane throws him off it kicks him back up a level but since he was shot and presumably killed that they needed to defib him back to life and since its all a dream the normal constraints of life do not apply
like neo in the matrix able to jump buildings once he accepts he's no longer in reality
Furtherman
07-29-2010, 06:15 AM
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angrymissy
07-29-2010, 06:41 AM
That's pretty cool
angrymissy
07-29-2010, 06:44 AM
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This is fantastic. I've watched it 3 times. 1:22 best part
mikeyboy
07-29-2010, 12:13 PM
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/204/1/a/Inception_Infographic_by_dehahs.jpg
Furtherman
07-29-2010, 12:17 PM
I was staring at that graph for a while yesterday.
There's gotta be a better way to illustrate the information.
hammersavage
08-02-2010, 07:33 AM
http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Inception-David-after-Dentist-385x800.jpg
Furtherman
08-02-2010, 11:30 AM
Do not watch this following video if you haven't seen the movie.
I found this hilarious, as the crowd's reaction is exactly what I heard in the theater.
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instrument
08-02-2010, 12:51 PM
you know...he never did do the top thing when ellen paige interrupted him.....i think the entire thing was a dreammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Furtherman
09-10-2010, 10:17 AM
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Misteriosa
06-08-2011, 08:25 AM
Listening to ron and fez today reminded me of this article i saw on cracked a little bit ago..
read the whole thing on it. its pretty awesome:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19210_7-insane-easter-eggs-hidden-in-movies-tv-shows_p2.html
#1 Inception's Hidden Soundtrack
The plot of Inception is all about sneaking an idea into somebody's mind without the person even realizing it. Turns out that while you were watching the movie, Chris Nolan was totally doing the same thing to you.
More specifically, the "idea" that Nolan secretly inserted into your mind is this:
http://i-beta.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/4/4/9/59449.jpg?v=1
Furtherman
06-08-2011, 08:36 AM
Listening to ron and fez today reminded me of this article i saw on cracked a little bit ago..
read the whole thing on it. its pretty awesome:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19210_7-insane-easter-eggs-hidden-in-movies-tv-shows_p2.html
Check out my post a few back... has a musical comparison video.
Misteriosa
06-08-2011, 08:39 AM
see what i get for trying to contribute... :dry:
cougarjake13
06-08-2011, 04:59 PM
the idea is of an old lady ?
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