A civil discussion of FFB's call

[sailor]

can anyone give an unbiased run-down of what went down on-air today? the listening thread appears to be locked, or i'd ask there.

thanks. you're all the greatest!

[hammersavage]

doubtful

[JerseyRich]

No...

But I'm sure someone else can.

[disneyspy]

if you dont listen to the show,why do you post here?

[hammersavage]

if you dont listen to the show,why do you post here?

shut it dummy.


wait I have to be civil

[disneyspy]

shut it dummy.


wait I have to be civil

id say your mets are gettin hammersavaged but i'm tryin to be civil

[underdog]

I wonder if AJ Dynamite had a computer, we'd be seeing the same type of posts and arguments.

[MisterSmith]

Quite simply...

http://fliiby.com/images/_thumbs/me_aiyakobil81.jpg

But seriously, I don't know the details either - just what I could glean from the thread. Work was in the way today.

[disneyspy]

ron never said it was ffb,he just said fred

[sailor]

if you dont listen to the show,why do you post here?

I don't always get to listen to the whole show. Thanks, pal.

[Dell]

can anyone give an unbiased run-down of what went down on-air today? the listening thread appears to be locked, or i'd ask there.

thanks. you're all the greatest!

has this thread been done before sailor?...

[disneyspy]

I don't always get to listen to the whole show. Thanks, pal.

no problem budday,the last 20 minutes was take shots at fez with dave callin the callers asses,then fred called and dave vs fez kicked off

[PD]

can anyone give an unbiased run-down of what went down on-air today? the listening thread appears to be locked, or i'd ask there.

thanks. you're all the greatest!

Long story short, Fez thinks Casey is turning people against Fez.

On air Ron took a call from "Fred"
Fred brought up Yoko Ono (draw your own conclusion as to why).

as for the listening thread
I didn't like that Fred's call was on air.
Fred came back blasting and basically said that it is all of casey's internet "mean" friends that may cost Dave his job.

People posted that Fred was mean.
Fred didn't like that.

more Fred is not nice.

then one person said Fred is REALLY not nice.

thread locked.

[sailor]

has this thread been done before sailor?...

hey, let's stay on topic here, buddy.

[disgruntledsherpa]

can anyone give an unbiased run-down of what went down on-air today? the listening thread appears to be locked, or i'd ask there.

thanks. you're all the greatest!

They were talking about undeserved authority I believe and Fred called in and started talking about Yoko Ono getting involved in the Beatles business and now owning the Beatles songs that she had nothing to do with and Dave got offended because it was a shot at casey.

At least that's how I remember it going down.

[JerseyRich]

then one person said Fred is REALLY not nice.

thread locked.

:lol:

[sailor]

no problem budday,the last 20 minutes was take shots at fez with dave callin the callers asses,then fred called and dave vs fez kicked off

wow, so dave was on fez's side before the call, then was put on the defensive? Holy moly.

[Goatweed]

Fred seems to have broken his word to Ron & Dave that he would leave Casey alone.

shocking!

[disneyspy]

wow, so dave was on fez's side before the call, then was put on the defensive? Holy moly.

ya,if you want to hear more im sure theres a podcast out there,if you listen you might double his audience

[Dougie Brootal]

Long story short, Fez thinks Casey is turning people against Fez.

On air Ron took a call from "Fred"
Fred brought up Yoko Ono (draw your own conclusion as to why).

as for the listening thread
I didn't like that Fred's call was on air.
Fred came back blasting and basically said that it is all of casey's internet "mean" friends that may cost Dave his job.

People posted that Fred was mean.
Fred didn't like that.

more Fred is not nice.

then one person said Fred is REALLY not nice.

thread locked.

this is the most accurate/hysterical rundown ever! :lol:

[PD]

Fred seems to have broken his word to Ron & Dave that he would leave Casey alone.

shocking!

Fred needs things to post on his twitter

[Goatweed]

incidentally, he claimed that he "was done" with this but he ran to twitter and posted a link to this board (again).

BUT he doesn't like the drama or stir the shit, no sir, not Fred!

I'm the only one in here being honest.

:lol:

[Meataball23]

When did it become okay to attack peoples wives/fans of the show? I flatly dont understand why its okay to target casey

[PD]

When did it become okay to attack peoples wives/fans of the show? I flatly dont understand why its okay to target casey

my point exactly.

it's bad for the host (fez). It's unconscionable to let a "caller" pile on - even if that is a caller who takes the host out for dinner.

but what do I know.

[paulisded]

They were talking about undeserved authority I believe and Fred called in and started talking about Yoko Ono getting involved in the Beatles business and now owning the Beatles songs that she had nothing to do with and Dave got offended because it was a shot at casey.

At least that's how I remember it going down.

Fred has the Beatles saga wrong as well.

Due to the rising costs of running their record company, and an upcoming extravagant tax bill, the Beatles were having cashflow problems in 1969. At the same time, they were negotiating a buyout with their publisher, Dick James, who owned 1/2 of their publishing. James shocked everybody by selling his share to Sir Lew Grade. Rather than working with him, and to satisfy their cashflow problem, the Beatles also unloaded their half of the publishing to Grade.

McCartney and Lennon quickly came to regret this move, and in the years before Lennon's death they began negotiating to buy the publishing back. These negotiations became more intense after Lennon's death, but Michael Jackson swooped in and purchased them. As his money problems grew, Jackson sold half to Sony Records, who will eventually own it all as the remaining half became collateral to loans Jackson needed to save Neverland.

Yoko Ono has never owned the Beatles songs. As Lennon's widow, she does receive his share of the performance royalties, just as George Harrison's widow receives the same. It may suck that Yoko is an equal partner in Beatles, LTD; but that's not unusual in any business where partners die prematurely.

[yojimbo7248]

Fred has the Beatles saga wrong as well.

Due to the rising costs of running their record company, and an upcoming extravagant tax bill, the Beatles were having cashflow problems in 1969. At the same time, they were negotiating a buyout with their publisher, Dick James, who owned 1/2 of their publishing. James shocked everybody by selling his share to Sir Lew Grade. Rather than working with him, and to satisfy their cashflow problem, the Beatles also unloaded their half of the publishing to Grade.

McCartney and Lennon quickly came to regret this move, and in the years before Lennon's death they began negotiating to buy the publishing back. These negotiations became more intense after Lennon's death, but Michael Jackson swooped in and purchased them. As his money problems grew, Jackson sold half to Sony Records, who will eventually own it all as the remaining half became collateral to loans Jackson needed to save Neverland.

Yoko Ono has never owned the Beatles songs. As Lennon's widow, she does receive his share of the performance royalties, just as George Harrison's widow receives the same. It may suck that Yoko is an equal partner in Beatles, LTD; but that's not unusual in any business where partners die prematurely.

this is why Paulisded is the best poster on this board

[PD]

Fred has the Beatles saga wrong as well.
:nono:.

wait?
Fred got something wrong????


shocking.

[burrben]

i liked it when people used to get banned

[Hottub]

A civil discussion of FFB's call

Just want to throw that out there again.

[PD]

Just want to throw that out there again.

I thought I was pretty civil.

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/wcower7.gif








:devil2:

Levity people!!

[burrben]

i want this thread to be more cybill

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/images/cybill.jpg

[Heather 8]

Just want to throw that out there again.

Fuck it, I'm pre-emptively tapping out.

[PD]

i want this thread to be more cybill

http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/images/cybill.jpg

ooooooooooooooooooooooooof

what happened?????


I want to remember her this way.

http://www.celebrity-zone.com/photos/cybil-shepherd-7.jpg

(NSFW if you couldn't guess)

[underdog]

Just want to throw that out there again.

Can I start a thread for a non-civil discussion?

[mikeyboy]

Can I start a thread for a non-civil discussion?

:furious:

[spankyfrank]

I'm so mad.... I was in the paltalk room, keeping an eye on Fred.

The minute I leave the room and turn off the radio all this craziness happens.

Craziness......:blink:

[HBox]

:furious:

That is not a civil smiley.

[disgruntledsherpa]

Fred has the Beatles saga wrong as well.

Due to the rising costs of running their record company, and an upcoming extravagant tax bill, the Beatles were having cashflow problems in 1969. At the same time, they were negotiating a buyout with their publisher, Dick James, who owned 1/2 of their publishing. James shocked everybody by selling his share to Sir Lew Grade. Rather than working with him, and to satisfy their cashflow problem, the Beatles also unloaded their half of the publishing to Grade.

McCartney and Lennon quickly came to regret this move, and in the years before Lennon's death they began negotiating to buy the publishing back. These negotiations became more intense after Lennon's death, but Michael Jackson swooped in and purchased them. As his money problems grew, Jackson sold half to Sony Records, who will eventually own it all as the remaining half became collateral to loans Jackson needed to save Neverland.

Yoko Ono has never owned the Beatles songs. As Lennon's widow, she does receive his share of the performance royalties, just as George Harrison's widow receives the same. It may suck that Yoko is an equal partner in Beatles, LTD; but that's not unusual in any business where partners die prematurely.

I know Fred had the Beatles thing all wrong, but the thread was not asking about why the Beatles broke up and their awful legal struggles through the 70s when it came to song ownership, publishing, disolving of the band, it was just "what did Fred say"? So, I
posted my memory of what he said.

I thought the same exact thing when he mentioned Yoko owning the Beatles songs.

[sailor]

I know Fred had the Beatles thing all wrong, but the thread was not asking about why the Beatles broke up and their awful legal struggles through the 70s when it came to song ownership, publishing, disolving of the band, it was just "what did Fred say"? So, I
posted my memory of what he said.

I thought the same exact thing when he mentioned Yoko owning the Beatles songs.

Let's not bicker and fight...

[disgruntledsherpa]

Let's not bicker and fight...

I was agreeing with him about the Yoko comment being off base. I was explaining to him why I didn't address it in the original post. I wasn't trying to bicker.

[Death Metal Moe]

The fact that Fred's participation in the daily Listening Thread got it locked speaks volumes about him, his real agenda and his participation here.

I'm so sick of him spouting his shit then pulling back and playing the victim, sometimes within the same sentence. Also viciously attacking women isn't going to win you many friends either.

It's so tired and boring and I don't want it on the show or the board.

[Doogie]

I was agreeing with him about the Yoko comment being off base. I was explaining to him why I didn't address it in the original post. I wasn't trying to bicker.

Sure you were, and that is not said in an accusatory tone. You are annoyed as many of us are, myself included, at this whole bashing of someone's wife. If she were part of the show, sure go for it. But she isnt...and we are allowing a megalomaniac try and dictate and preach his sick agenda against her, yet play the coy role of "well I am the victim. Even after I attack her in my podcast, on the RF show and so forth." Let it fly brother. I know I am at the point I am changing the channel when I hear this shit come up and as a listener I am tired of hearing it...it is getting worn out.

Is my tone here a bit harsh, yes. Am I being civil, yes. I am annoyed at the whole tone of the show lately and finding it hard to listen to the bashing of someone's wife. Especially when all of this is over a BBQ invite. Sheesh. Enough already. Everyone just more on...

[JerseyRich]

http://images.craveonline.com/article_imgs/Image/bickering.jpg

[ShowerBench]

They were talking about undeserved authority I believe and Fred called in and started talking about Yoko Ono getting involved in the Beatles business and now owning the Beatles songs that she had nothing to do with and Dave got offended because it was a shot at casey.

At least that's how I remember it going down.

If that's what FFB was implying then he begged the question of whether Dave is one of the Beatles. If Dave was offended, he must believe he is. Isn't that the issue?

[Hottub]

So Dave is the walrus?:wacko:

[Doogie]

The fact that Fred's participation in the daily Listening Thread got it locked speaks volumes about him, his real agenda and his participation here.

I'm so sick of him spouting his shit then pulling back and playing the victim, sometimes within the same sentence. Also viciously attacking women isn't going to win you many friends either.

It's so tired and boring and I don't want it on the show or the board.

Thank you Moe. I stated something else to that effect above. I said it on Monday, fuck I even jumped on you for immediately jumping to Fez's defense before you heard the show where they were talking about the same topic. It made the show non-listenable for me. I have been exercising that option of changing the station when this topic is brought up.

[jlehane3]

walking in Manhattan...directed 16 candles. Just an aside as I was reading this thread,as it came over the radio.I really need to listen more closely.That Fred call I probably missed from stepping away to eat lunch.Thanks for the heads up,and also Paulisded for the Beatles info.

[underdog]

walking in Manhattan...directed 16 candles. Just an aside as I was reading this thread,as it came over the radio.I really need to listen more closely.That Fred call I probably missed from stepping away to eat lunch.Thanks for the heads up,and also Paulisded for the Beatles info.

Exactly.

[Dougie Brootal]

So Dave is the walrus?:wacko:

coo coo ka jizzzzz!

[Hottub]

Are you kids being civil?
Don't make me come up there!

[TripleSkeet]

Thank God I had to watch my kids today. Id probably be on vacation from here right now if I didnt.

[stormy1065]

I'm on vacation and have only caught bits and pieces.Doesn't sound like i'm missing anything.:smoke:

[~Katja~]

incidentally, he claimed that he "was done" with this but he ran to twitter and posted a link to this board (again).

BUT he doesn't like the drama or stir the shit, no sir, not Fred!



:lol:

I don't have twitter but I am curious, who in the world would follow him?




just wanna clarify why I am asking; he has stated just recently that he is a lone wolf and does not need people to follow him... going out of your way and setting up a twitter constitutes that you expect people to follow you, especially if you tweet yourself and don't just use it to follow others... so you are trying to be heard/ followed...
Does that mean he was not honest about his statement?

[Melk]

I am still trying to figure out why Casey, a grown adult, is supposedly immune from criticism on the show but Julianna, an infant, is fodder for retard jokes.

I think Fez's implication that Casey got pregnant to avoid getting a job to supplement Dave's income, true or false, is a laugh riot.

As far as Fred's role on the show goes, Ron could've easily hung up on him if he felt that the call went to far.

[MisterSmith]

The fact that Fred's participation in the daily Listening Thread got it locked speaks volumes about him, his real agenda and his participation here.

I'm so sick of him spouting his shit then pulling back and playing the victim, sometimes within the same sentence. Also viciously attacking women isn't going to win you many friends either.

It's so tired and boring and I don't want it on the show or the board.

To be fair. it was a member "speaking his mind" about Fred, his calls, and his general participation that got the thread locked. The Mods/Admins were pretty clear about not bashing or attacking and one member couldn't hold to the rules. Fred was not winning any friends, but it wasn't his direct actions/posting/whatever in the thread that prompted it.

IMO the post should have been deleted (as it was obviously against board rules of comduct), but the thread couple have gone on after. However, I can also see the point that it was bound to get ugly sooner or later.

[brettmojo]

The fact that Fred's participation in the daily Listening Thread got it locked speaks volumes about him, his real agenda and his participation here.

I'm so sick of him spouting his shit then pulling back and playing the victim, sometimes within the same sentence. Also viciously attacking women isn't going to win you many friends either.

It's so tired and boring and I don't want it on the show or the board.
x2.

[3Setsof10]

To be fair. it was a member "speaking his mind" about Fred, his calls, and his general participation that got the thread locked. The Mods/Admins were pretty clear about not bashing or attacking and one member couldn't hold to the rules. Fred was not winning any friends, but it wasn't his direct actions/posting/whatever in the thread that prompted it.

IMO the post should have been deleted (as it was obviously against board rules of comduct), but the thread couple have gone on after. However, I can also see the point that it was bound to get ugly sooner or later.

The member was me, and yes it was out of line, and I got what was coming, and I was and am OK with that

Your second point is more on target, there was no way that thread was going to last as long as FFB was around to mess things up

The fact that my post that got the thread closed is still up IMO speaks volumes of how fed up this place is with Fred from Brooklyn, and how everyone sees through his agenda

[disgruntledsherpa]

I'm on vacation and have only caught bits and pieces.Doesn't sound like i'm missing anything.:smoke:

I thought the show was killer today. The first hour was absolutely hilarious. The only down parts were the Warren Moon interview and the prerequisite Tarantino Lovefest.

[~Katja~]

I thought the show was killer today. The first hour was absolutely hilarious. The only down parts were the Warren Moon interview and the prerequisite Tarantino Lovefest.
OMG that WAS awesome! I am so excited about this movie!
(also cause I love Til Schweiger.... )

[Hottub]

The member was me, and yes it was out of line, and I got what was coming, and I was and am OK with that



If you got what was coming, you wouldn't be posting right now.
Two separate moderators stepped in and asked everyone to stop.
That didn't happen.
And congrats. It's not every day one of my Listening Threads gets locked. I'm glad you're OK with with that.

[PD]

The fact that Fred's participation in the daily Listening Thread got it locked speaks volumes about him, his real agenda and his participation here.

I'm so sick of him spouting his shit then pulling back and playing the victim, sometimes within the same sentence. Also viciously attacking women isn't going to win you many friends either.

It's so tired and boring and I don't want it on the show or the board.

said very well, and by someone who has been around long enough to know.

[MisterSmith]

The member was me, and yes it was out of line, and I got what was coming, and I was and am OK with that

Your second point is more on target, there was no way that thread was going to last as long as FFB was around to mess things up

The fact that my post that got the thread closed is still up IMO speaks volumes of how fed up this place is with Fred from Brooklyn, and how everyone sees through his agenda

And I have to admit that I agreed with the sentiment of your post and am far from a fan of Fred. However, you did pretty much screw the pooch in terms of keeping it civil. :laugh:

[~Katja~]

If you got what was coming, you wouldn't be posting right now.
Two separate moderators stepped in and asked everyone to stop.
That didn't happen.
And congrats. It's not every day one of my Listening Threads gets locked. I'm glad you're OK with with that.
you mean just like Fred... and his life time ban :unsure:

[brettmojo]

If you got what was coming, you wouldn't be posting right now.
Two separate moderators stepped in and asked everyone to stop.
That didn't happen.
And congrats. It's not every day one of my Listening Threads gets locked. I'm glad you're OK with with that.
He said what needed to be said. The crying wrestling fan would be proud. And I don't mean Fez.

[sailor]

i just wish fred were around to tell his side of the story. y'know, to keep it fair and balanced.

[MisterSmith]

you mean just like Fred... and his life time ban :unsure:

That is a good point. WTF happened with that?

[~Katja~]

That is a good point. WTF happened with that?
I don't think it was a life time ban to begin with... but that would also mean Fred was not honest... and I mean that is so highly unlikely... seriously :blink:

[sink]

I think Ron taking these calls and allowing these situations to perpetuate themselves speaks volumes about how much he cares or respects one of his's teams members wives who also happens to be trying to raise two babies.

[Death Metal Moe]

To be fair. it was a member "speaking his mind" about Fred, his calls, and his general participation that got the thread locked. The Mods/Admins were pretty clear about not bashing or attacking and one member couldn't hold to the rules. Fred was not winning any friends, but it wasn't his direct actions/posting/whatever in the thread that prompted it.

IMO the post should have been deleted (as it was obviously against board rules of comduct), but the thread couple have gone on after. However, I can also see the point that it was bound to get ugly sooner or later.

I understand what you're saying, but it was his inclusion that made it go to shit in my opinion. He KNEW something was being said about him on the fanboard and instead of letting it roll off his back like he says it always does, he went into damage control mode and come on pretty strong, then went into victim mode when everyone told him to take his shit elsewhere.

So I still directly blame him for the lock on a listening thread, the 1st time I've ever seen that happen the better part of a decade I've been here.

[PD]

If you got what was coming, you wouldn't be posting right now.
Two separate moderators stepped in and asked everyone to stop.
That didn't happen.
And congrats. It's not every day one of my Listening Threads gets locked. I'm glad you're OK with with that.

I shouldn't speak for someone else but that never stopped me before.

I think his point was he realized he was wrong in crossing the line. I think he regrets being the cause. The "I got what was coming to me" was the first action that was done to him- and yes, under normal circumstances he would not be able to post about it now.

As far as who caused the thread to be locked, I think Moe's point (ya again speaking for someone else- so sue me) was that Fred intended to throw it out of wack, and unfortunately, he succeeded.
(edit)
I guess Moe explained himself quite nicely...

[Hottub]

I am not denying that fact, PD. Fred has a long trail of locked threads behind him.
It's just a shame it had to happen.

[Cyber Trucker]

Fuck it all I think both are wrong. They let something get between them and now it pulling them apart. Everyone need to clean the sand out there pussy and fix this before it's to late.:wallbash:

[3Setsof10]

If you got what was coming, you wouldn't be posting right now.
Two separate moderators stepped in and asked everyone to stop.
That didn't happen.
And congrats. It's not every day one of my Listening Threads gets locked. I'm glad you're OK with with that.

Yeah, I am, it's a thread on a message board that was deliberately hijacked by someone with their own negative agenda

There's always tomorrow for another listening thread

[3Setsof10]

So really, let's not get carried away with what happened there

FFB will implode on his own, I am satisfied that it's right out there what the real deal is with him and why what's been going on with the show has been going on for so long

[Death Metal Moe]

I wish Mikeyboy would sell Fred from Brooklyn's Ronfez.net account log in to Mafia Life Chris and spare us all the grief.

[ToiletCrusher]

You're a civil discussion.

[Fez4PrezN2008]

i liked it when people used to get banned
Something interesting for perspective...

reeshy... still on vacation
FFB... NO vacation

[boosterp]

And to think, I'd rather see a MLC post than a FFB post. That should speak volumes.

[lleeder]

well im tired so i guess im going to bed

[drjoek]

well im tired so i guess im going to bed



Pussy

[Goatweed]

^^^^ that's not very civil!!!

[Meataball23]

You're a civil discussion.

Dont really have much to add here other than my full support of a FFB ban

Also TC I love the footer pic. Hate that secret business and Im no psychologist but I can only connect the dots that Fez's insane behavior manifested in an angry way due to his inner shame about his secret.

[Mr.Misery]

LEE
VON
HELM!

[Aqualad]

I don't understand this show.

[Dell]

bring on the cat pics...