I support Dave

[brettmojo]

I just can't believe Fez has taken this just baseless hatred for Dave and Casey as far as he has. He sees conspiracies everywhere and thinks everyone is against him. Sorry Fez, but you've gone off the deep end with it.

[biggestmexi]

I think the Casey thing is a bit too much.

[Dude!]

i think the show should stay on the air
but be just replays from the old days

[brettmojo]

I think the Casey thing is a bit too much.
Seriously. What man attacks a woman in that way CONSTANTLY over any extended period of time? I mean a guy will maybe call someones chick out for being a bitch or for whoring around on him but to go to the extent that Fez does on basically a daily basis is so catty it's a lot more feminine and makes him sound like a slighted woman.

[JerseyRich]

I miss the Heckler.

[Small..Balls]

I refuse to pick sides. I just want to support Dave and all he brings to the show. I'm a huge ESD fan.

Recognize.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

Seriously. What man attacks a woman in that way CONSTANTLY over any extended period of time? I mean a guy will maybe call someones chick out for being a bitch or for whoring around on him but to go to the extent that Fez does on basically a daily basis is so catty it's a lot more feminine and makes him sound like a slighted woman.

fez is not a man. he's more like a boy.

[PD]

I'm listening again.

Fez was upset that Casey recommended Four Winds???

how is that a bad thing? she was trying to help.

[walker]

ESD and his big boobied wife are the heart & soul of The Ron & Fez Show. He's earned the second mic. Long Live ESD!!!!

[Meataball23]

I dont understand Fez at all. I wrote a lot about this on the listening thread, but basically he was mad at Dave for living far away...I think.

The bizzare heel turn has been really tough to listen to, and the personal attacks on casey just dont make sense to me on any level.

I used to love the show, but now I feel like im just listening out of habit, Fez infurates me daily and not in a good way...its really just sad

[Meataball23]

I'm listening again.

Fez was upset that Casey recommended Four Winds???

how is that a bad thing? she was trying to help.

None of it makes any sense. Fez is mad at casey for recommending a place he was looking for??

[walker]

I dont understand Fez at all. I wrote a lot about this on the listening thread, but basically he was mad at Dave for living far away...I think.

The bizzare heel turn has been really tough to listen to, and the personal attacks on casey just dont make sense to me on any level.

I used to love the show, but now I feel like im just listening out of habit, Fez infurates me daily and not in a good way...its really just sad

I couldn't agree more, Meatball. That caller Gary got lambasted today (for good reason), but I think he did have an interesting point. I find all of the FFB, MLC, FBP, G-Vac, Lleeder on air stuff to be too much. None of them bring any substance to the show, and they've all been on non-stop lately. I understand they are "friends" to the show for the most part, but it is way tooo inside. Give me good interviews, relevant topics, and some Board Gossip evry now and then. That's what I loved about the show in the first place!

[Doogie]

These threads are not going to go over well tomorrow...

I stated what I stated in the other thread in reply to some people blindly giving loyalty to Fez without having heard what happened. Having stated that, I think giving support to one side or another is wrong.

Why are we turning this issue into the Mason-Dixon line of RF.net?? Ok, everyone has their opinions about what happened on the show today including myself (I felt Fez was wrong.) But I am not prepared to go "I support ____________." That is fostering this division and cess pool of negativity that is becoming pervasive throughout RonFez.net and gives this board an unwarranted bad reputation.

So lets try and move on from today's show and let the parties involved settle it in their own manner, and not try and exacerbate the issues by creating "I support Fez/Dave threads."

[Dougie Brootal]

fez is just plain shitty anymore. i cant stand anything he says and believe he honestly feels that way.

[spadanko]

Fez appreciated the recommendation when he went to four winds.

I can't believe what has come of this. Fez needs to realize it is not all about him. You can hear Dave is starting to get frustrated with it. He was just going with it for a while, but I think teh Casey bashing is getting him him.

Dave did nothing wrong inviting him over to his house this weekend. If he didn't, fez would be crying he was not invited.

Like it was said today, fez is borderline paranoid schizophrenic. He thinks everything is about him.

[brettmojo]

None of it makes any sense. Fez is mad at casey for recommending a place he was looking for??
It's just any and every reason.

Poor Dave I listen to him trying to talk to Fez, Fez is just a closed door. He doesn't want to even try and come to any sort of resolution to this. He yells at Dave for laughing... WHAT DO YOU WANT DAVE TO DO? Dave is a nervous wreck over it you can tell by the laughing. He's at a loss over the situation and quite honestly I am too.

This isn't the planet Fez. Life and existence doesn't revolve around any singular person and it certainly doesn't around Fez Whatley. How much cash has he dropped on therapy and he still doesn't even grasp this very basic understanding of life?

[Meataball23]

I couldn't agree more, Meatball. That caller Gary got lambasted today (for good reason), but I think he did have an interesting point. I find all of the FFB, MLC, FBP, G-Vac, Lleeder on air stuff to be too much. None of them bring any substance to the show, and they've all been on non-stop lately. I understand they are "friends" to the show for the most part, but it is way tooo inside. Give me good interviews, relevant topics, and some Board Gossip evry now and then. That's what I loved about the show in the first place!

Thanks buddy and Im w/ you to a point about the inside stuff. Part of the draw for me w/ the original WNEW shows was that it really did seem like a bunch of extended friends hanging out/having fun. Now that you have Fez's mental problems and other friends having problems w/ each other, the entire tone becomes negative and really just bizzare.

[spadanko]

It's just any and every reason.

Poor Dave I listen to him trying to talk to Fez, Fez is just a closed door. He doesn't want to even try and come to any sort of resolution to this. He yells at Dave for laughing... WHAT DO YOU WANT DAVE TO DO? Dave is a nervous wreck over it you can tell by the laughing. He's at a loss over the situation and quite honestly I am too.

This isn't the planet Fez. Life and existence doesn't revolve around any singular person and it certainly doesn't around Fez Whatley. How much cash has he dropped on therapy and he still doesn't even grasp this very basic understanding of life?

Exactly.. they are getting on Dave for laughing, but it's a nervous laugh... he is on eggshells everyday with Fez.

[Meataball23]

Exactly.. they are getting on Dave for laughing, but it's a nervous laugh... he is on eggshells everyday with Fez.

I didnt understand this either.

If the defense is "hey dont laugh at this guy, hes paranoid" - obviously that puts dave in the impossible position of not being able to say "tell this paranoid guy to stop yelling at me and my wife"

[Jeffdc5]

i think the show should stay on the air
but be just replays from the old days

remember we are not allowed to hear the old days, fez doesn't want to compete with his former funny self...

[brettmojo]

remember we are not allowed to hear the old days, fez doesn't want to compete with his former funny self...
There's a lot of truth in that statement.

[knockknock]

I think Fez should move on and retire.

I used to like Fez, but he's losing me these days. When he was maligning Dave for having a second child he hit rock bottom in my opinion. The man has no understanding of the complexity of life--he's lived a sheltered existence with no real "adult" experiences. There are times when the old Fez shines through, but now the angry "crank" persona is eclipsing my view of him.

Fez comes across as a paranoid, immature, angry old queen. He doesn't carry anywhere close to 50% of the show even though his name is in the title of the show. He doesn't do interviews, he has to be dragged into conversations--he's basically a work shirker and forces Ron and Dave pick up the slack on-air. We've all heard the times that Ron leaves the room and Fez has to be on-air alone. He rambles, gets nervous, and can't handle it. Radio is his job and he can't perform his job.

Fez, Dave is not the reason people don't like the new you. YOU are the reason.

[Jeffdc5]

I think Fez should move on and retire.

I used to like Fez, but he's losing me these days. When he was maligning Dave for having a second child he hit rock bottom in my opinion. The man has no understanding of the complexity of life--he's lived a sheltered existence with no real "adult" experiences. There are times when the old Fez shines through, but now the angry "crank" persona is eclipsing my view of him.

Fez comes across as a paranoid, immature, angry old queen. He doesn't carry anywhere close to 50% of the show even though his name is in the title of the show. He doesn't do interviews, he has to be dragged into conversations--he's basically a work shirker and forces Ron and Dave pick up the slack on-air. We've all heard the times that Ron leaves the room and Fez has to be on-air alone. He rambles, gets nervous, and can't handle it. Radio is his job and he can't perform his job.

Fez, Dave is not the reason people don't like the new you. YOU are the reason.

AMEN

[brettmojo]

I don't think EITHER ONE OF THEM should be off the show. That's not really the issue here. If Dave wasn't there Fez would still have these issues. Would the manifest themselves the same way? Who knows. But Fez is looking at Dave as as the focal point of his problems when he should be looking at himself.

[Meataball23]

I think Fez should move on and retire.

I used to like Fez, but he's losing me these days. When he was maligning Dave for having a second child he hit rock bottom in my opinion. The man has no understanding of the complexity of life--he's lived a sheltered existence with no real "adult" experiences. There are times when the old Fez shines through, but now the angry "crank" persona is eclipsing my view of him.

Fez comes across as a paranoid, immature, angry old queen. He doesn't carry anywhere close to 50% of the show even though his name is in the title of the show. He doesn't do interviews, he has to be dragged into conversations--he's basically a work shirker and forces Ron and Dave pick up the slack on-air. We've all heard the times that Ron leaves the room and Fez has to be on-air alone. He rambles, gets nervous, and can't handle it. Radio is his job and he can't perform his job.

Fez, Dave is not the reason people don't like the new you. YOU are the reason.

Its all true. I really think a leave of absense would be the absolute best thing for Fez off and on air.

[brettmojo]

I mean... FEZ HAS NEVER EVEN TAKEN A REAL VACATION HAS HE? Does he always go back to his parent's house in Florida every vacation? Either that or stay in the city? So really he's not even giving himself a break from everything he claims causes the his problems. He really doesn't have any mentally healthy aspects in his life. He lives alone, he runs back to his childhood home every vacation, he rarely if ever leaves his home for any reason other than work, he declines all invitations to interact with other human beings... Is it any wonder why he's in the state he's in? And he just uses Dave as a punching bag to outlet his mental frustration for his own inadequacies.

[yojimbo7248]

I mean... FEZ HAS NEVER EVEN TAKEN A REAL VACATION HAS HE? Does he always go back to his parent's house in Florida every vacation? Either that or stay in the city? So really he's not even giving himself a break from everything he claims causes the his problems. He really doesn't have any mentally healthy aspects in his life. He lives alone, he runs back to his childhood home every vacation, he rarely if ever leaves his home for any reason other than work, he declines all invitations to interact with other human beings... Is it any wonder why he's in the state he's in? And he just uses Dave as a punching bag to outlet his mental frustration for his own inadequacies.

how did you get hold of Fez's therapist's file on him?

[TripleSkeet]

I do like Fez. But in this type of instance, he annoys me more then ever. Im with Dave. To be quite honest, joke or no joke I dont think Id have been able to allow the jabs to keep coming at my wife. Hes a bigger man then me.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

The most annoying part was that regardless of when the text or invite was sent, Fez wasn't going anywhere. Dave is in a position where he can't win and I wanted Ron to point that out. If he didn't invite Fez that would have replaced the word text in today's spat. Also the attacks on Casey are baseless and comes across as a bitch move. I don't know the woman but regardless of the general concensus of her I don't even see how she was entered into the story today.

For a second Dave's voice was rising and I was waiting for him to lay some hurt on Fez, but he caught his tongue. He is in the worst place that he can be right now.

David McDonald is hurting.

[instrument]

listening to fez and ron on air I can't imagine what part of fez that ron was attracted to that made them a duo.

I swear if I hadn't been listening during the wnew days I wouldn't be able to believe that these two were ever friends.

I'm sure new listeners don't get it either.

You want to really laugh go back and listen to fez make fun of billy staples for taking pills......sounds like he's talking to himself now.

And the word some of you are looking for is solipsist, I have never seen someone so self involved.

[Penelope]

Love Fez and Dave both. I relate to Fez's anxiety and craziness, and he's never overly cheerful. Dave is great, because he makes me laugh, and he doesn't take anything too seriously. Fez is the dark, Dave is the light. Like the yin yang . . . both are important.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Love Fez and Dave both. I relate to Fez's anxiety and craziness, and he's never overly cheerful. Dave is great, because he makes me laugh, and he doesn't take anything too seriously. Fez is the dark, Dave is the light. Like the yin yang . . . both are important.

Well, I blame the whites.

[Section 8]

I haven't been able to listen to today's show yet, but I have been able to listen to some of the shows from the past week or so. The Fez of today is definitely not the Fez I started listening to over 3 years ago.

Dave has been funny and really seems to enjoy being on the air. I remember ESD being on the RAT years ago and he was funny then too.

I am fully expecting Dave to explode on Fez soon if he keeps this up. If Fez was saying things about my wife and upsetting her the way that he upset Casey, he would have caught a LOT more than just an earful.

[Charlie_Don't_Surf]

Wow listening to the replay, I just realized Fez went after Casey a mere minute after the topic was brought up.

[TjM]

I hope you're proud of yourself Mikeyboy .Net has turned on Fez exactly as you planned.

Also let's just say Dave's constant needling of Fez sends him back to the nut hut/ retires. What makes you people think Ron would just have Dave take over?

[yojimbo7248]

I hope you're proud of yourself Mikeyboy .Net has turned on Fez exactly as you planned.

Also let's just say Dave's constant needling of Fez sends him back to the nut hut/ retires. What makes you people think Ron would just have Dave take over?

so, this has always been Mikeyboy's plan? Fez was right. Dave, Casey, Mikeyboy, his mom, MikeyD (clearly you can never trust a Mikey), Big A, Billy Staples, MLC, etc. have all been conspiring to drive him insane. Now that they are so close to their goal, their plan is obvious.

[Heather 8]

I am fully expecting Dave to explode on Fez soon if he keeps this up. If Fez was saying things about my wife and upsetting her the way that he upset Casey, he would have caught a LOT more than just an earful.

Just stay away from his stents, dear.

[TjM]

so, this has always been Mikeyboy's plan? Fez was right. Dave, Casey, Mikeyboy, his mom, MikeyD (clearly you can never trust a Mikey), Big A, Billy Staples, MLC, etc. have all been conspiring to drive him insane. Now that they are so close to their goal, their plan is obvious.

But where does Earl Douglas fit in??

[daminik]

all fez does is complain. All he has to contribute is football when the topic is up,besides that it's the ron and dave show. Fez needs to stop with the interupting of good bits with the on air commercial spots. Fez was good years ago but now 3rd mic fits him.dave needs to standup to fez. sorry fez dont cry please

[yojimbo7248]

all fez does is complain. All he has to contribute is football when the topic is up,besides that it's the ron and dave show. Fez needs to stop with the interupting of good bits with the on air commercial spots. Fez was good years ago but now 3rd mic fits him.dave needs to standup to fez. sorry fez dont cry please

to look on the bright side of the current Fez situation, at least he has stopped his crying.

[kratos]

I support Dave.

Fez had great shows last week but if his power only comes from baselessly riding Dave then I rather do without. Fez can either cry about being invited to stuff or not being invited. Not both. If Fez wants a party on his own terms, he can throw it himself.:wallbash:

[walker]

all fez does is complain. All he has to contribute is football when the topic is up,besides that it's the ron and dave show. Fez needs to stop with the interupting of good bits with the on air commercial spots. Fez was good years ago but now 3rd mic fits him.dave needs to standup to fez. sorry fez dont cry please

He also contriibutes when the Topic Is Pro Wrestiling & Gay Marrige. Sadly, he doesn't know that much about either of those topics.

[Meataball23]

He also contriibutes when the Topic Is Pro Wrestiling & Gay Marrige. Sadly, he doesn't know that much about either of those topics.

:laugh:

So true

[dino_electropolis]

I may be wrong here, but it is my understanding that the most traffic to this website (and arguably, the show itself) was when Dave and Casey got married.




Yeah, kinda undermines any "dave is horrible for the show" perspective, no?

[Meataball23]

I hope you're proud of yourself Mikeyboy .Net has turned on Fez exactly as you planned.

Also let's just say Dave's constant needling of Fez sends him back to the nut hut/ retires. What makes you people think Ron would just have Dave take over?

listening to fez and ron on air I can't imagine what part of fez that ron was attracted to that made them a duo.

I swear if I hadn't been listening during the wnew days I wouldn't be able to believe that these two were ever friends.

I'm sure new listeners don't get it either.

You want to really laugh go back and listen to fez make fun of billy staples for taking pills......sounds like he's talking to himself now.

And the word some of you are looking for is solipsist, I have never seen someone so self involved.


Its all true, and if/when Fez takes some time off from the show, I dont think it would become the Ron and Dave show, but it would be called what it should be called now...The Ron Bennington Show.

Hes what makes it go and really his personality is the only thing everyone here can agree on thats evolving and wildly entertaining everyday.

Besides their history together, I have no clue why Ron and Fez remain on air partners.

[Heather 8]

I'm listening to the show now via Audible, and holy crap is Fez out of line. What a self-absorbed drama queen.

[daminik]

If dave wasnt on the show, i probably wouldnt listen to it. When east side isn't their it sux cause it's just a 1 man show cause fez doesn't give anything to the show.

[Gerald]

Fez's recent animosity towards the McDonalds I think is largely bit-driven.

I was listening to portions of the wedding broadcast yesterday on my iPod and Fez came off like the happiest guy in the room for them.

[yojimbo7248]

Fez's recent animosity towards the McDonalds I think is largely bit-driven.

I was listening to portions of the wedding broadcast yesterday on my iPod and Fez came off like the happiest guy in the room for them.

If this is a bit, it is almost worse. I'd hate to hear Ron, Fez, Dave in a show prep meeting agree that Fez pretending to hate Dave would be radio gold. The problem isn't whether this is real or not but that angry Fez hating Dave, Cave, Lleeder, his cat, women, whoever just is getting old and was never entertaining.

[brettmojo]

Fez's recent animosity towards the McDonalds I think is largely bit-driven.

I was listening to portions of the wedding broadcast yesterday on my iPod and Fez came off like the happiest guy in the room for them.
People with that secret love weddings.

[Gerald]

angry Fez is getting old and was never entertaining.

Not for me. When I sense that his claws are about to come out my ears perk up. I'm frankly for anything that keeps him in the conversational flow, even when he's rehashing his tired stances on GLBT equality or dwelling on his mental insecurities. The show is that much better when he's worked up into a lather on something.

[kratos]

Was Ron kinda riding Dave yesterday? Dave didn't seem to say or do anything to start trouble (he didn't even talk that much). Ron seemed like he was trying to bait someone into stirring up Monday's bullshit again.

[yojimbo7248]

Not for me. When I sense that his claws are about to come out my ears perk up. I'm frankly for anything that keeps him in the conversational flow, even when he's rehashing his tired stances on GLBT equality or dwelling on his mental insecurities. The show is that much better when he's worked up into a lather on something.

I'm glad that there are fans of Fez's angry rants. just not my thing. It's nothing personal.