2009 College Football thread

[Ritalin]

I gotta try this centsports. Just what I need, something else to distract me from my real life.

[disneyspy]

I gotta try this centsports. Just what I need, something else to distract me from my real life.

i bet snoogans sends you an invite soon

[Tenbatsuzen]

I just saw someone I know on TV.

The black Ohio State superfan in the Cowboy Hat... Liz and I ran into him at the airport last year.

[disneyspy]

fuck,we are under a winter storm warning for the next two days (nothing special here) but do they really have to blot out the info DURING THE FUCKING ROSE BOWL GAME!!

[razorboy]

It's only now starting to sink in how much I'm going to miss seeing Bobby and Mickey on the sidelines.

[JimBeam]

fuck,we are under a winter storm warning for the next two days (nothing special here) but do they really have to blot out the info DURING THE FUCKING ROSE BOWL GAME!!

I hope you stocked up on booze.

[JimBeam]

I wonder if Blount's gonna punch anybody after this game.

You know after he just fumbled and all.

[SP1!]

I wonder if Blount's gonna punch anybody after this game.

You know after he just fumbled and all.

God I hope so at least it will make the game more interesting.

[disneyspy]

that catch was giantesque

[JimBeam]

Those 2 Oregon clowns prevented each other from getting the hit on Pryor before that last big gain.

[disneyspy]

I hope you stocked up on booze.

round here we dont stock up,were not pussies

[disneyspy]

by looking at the sea of red in pasadena you people can quit asking why BIG TEN teams get asked to go to bowl games,50,000 buckeye fans spending 3,000 bucks each will help a local economy

[JimBeam]

That's why I hate kickers.

They are useless.

Even if they win you a game they still suck.

[JimBeam]

I love how in the beginning of the game Mussbeger and/or Herbstreit were talking about how Pryor gets so much criticism but yet now they're sucking him off like he's won the National Championship.

There may not be a player who's talked about more and done less than this kid.

[disneyspy]

that rosebowl trophy loooks like a blender

[JimBeam]

I just realized that after tonight's game there isn't another good game until the National Championship one.

[razorboy]

Ugh. The Rose Bowl was a fucking chore to watch.

[JimBeam]

They they actually really just call that a block in the back ?

[ozzie]

Ugh. The Rose Bowl was a fucking chore to watch.

It literally put me to sleep.

[ozzie]

I just realized that after tonight's game there isn't another good game until the National Championship one.

None of any real importance, but I'll make time to watch Ole Miss/OK State tomorrow, and with all the BS surrounding the game, will probably start watching the Texas Tech game.

Ah, who am I kidding... I watch any college football game that's on.

And if the weather doesn't completely suck, I'll probably head out to the GMAC bowl and take in Mr. LeFevour live.

[JimBeam]

Billick just said " .... how long and deep he rides him in. "

I thought this was a family broadcast.

[JimBeam]

Lots of hurt guys in this game.

I wonder if they'll send them to the tool shed.

[JimBeam]

The refs are doing everything they can to keep this game close.

A guys fighting for extra yards, staying in bounds then takes a hit and it's a personal foul ?

There was no whistle that I heard so why would the UF defender stop ?

It didn't look clearly like he was out of bounds.

[JimBeam]

Where'd you guys all go ?

You sat through the Rose Bowl and then you bail when the Sugar Bowl comes on ?

UF is taking it up a notch w/ a 30-3 lead.

They are playing defense like the game is still on the line.

[SP1!]

Geez is this the varsity for cincy or did they bring the junior varsity team?

This is ugly, I was hoping they would win

[disneyspy]

Where'd you guys all go ?

You sat through the Rose Bowl and then you bail when the Sugar Bowl comes on ?

UF is taking it up a notch w/ a 30-3 lead.

They are playing defense like the game is still on the line.

im in a football overload mode

[razorboy]

Where'd you guys all go ?

You sat through the Rose Bowl and then you bail when the Sugar Bowl comes on ?

UF is taking it up a notch w/ a 30-3 lead.

They are playing defense like the game is still on the line.

Two awful games in a row makes razor a dull boy.

[JimBeam]

And you Tebow haters are right, he really does suck.

18 for 20 for 307 yards and 3 TDs w/o an INT in the 1st half alone.

Against a Top 5 team.

Actually he was 18 for 19 until he just missed a pass.

[Snoogans]

man i was right on this one. thank god the knicks won. ill end up today up 25 on college bowls after the clock cleaning i took

[JimBeam]

That Hernandez guy on UF does seem to be a bit of a chirpy douche.

[ozzie]

Where'd you guys all go ?

You sat through the Rose Bowl and then you bail when the Sugar Bowl comes on ?

UF is taking it up a notch w/ a 30-3 lead.

They are playing defense like the game is still on the line.

Still around... just not much to comment on this one.

Unless Snoogan's wants to come back here and read a lot of "I told you so" crap about Cincinatti's miserable lack of a defense.

It's like Hippo took the Bearcats and the points.

[SP1!]

Jim its because everyone hates teeblow, he's been sucked off for 3 years and people are sick of him. Besides I'm out drinking now and the GF is getting pissed I'm on a message board.

[JimBeam]

man i was right on this one. thank god the knicks won. ill end up today up 25 on college bowls after the clock cleaning i took

I thought you took Cincy ?

Or was I missing your sarcasm ?

[ozzie]

And you Tebow haters are right, he really does suck.

18 for 20 for 307 yards and 3 TDs w/o an INT in the 1st half alone.

Against a Top 5 team.

Actually he was 18 for 19 until he just missed a pass.

Nah, you're not baiting me in on that one. This defense is horrible, and you know it.

And I don't think anyone ever disputed that he is a decent college quarterback/fullback overall. Most disparaging remarks were made towards his glaring lack of NFL skills.

Satchel Paige had a quicker release than Tim Tebow.

[Snoogans]

I thought you took Cincy ?

Or was I missing your sarcasm ?

missed sarcasm

[razorboy]

And you Tebow haters are right, he really does suck.

18 for 20 for 307 yards and 3 TDs w/o an INT in the 1st half alone.

Against a Top 5 team.

Actually he was 18 for 19 until he just missed a pass.

What Tebow haters? He's a fantastic college spread QB. I'm sure he'll be a serviceable NFL HB/TE.

[JimBeam]

Eddie George is very excited about the fact that his team won a game that essentially means nothing.

Oh well.

Small victories.

[razorboy]

Satchel Paige had a quicker release than Tim Tebow.

I have a sundial in my yard with a quicker release than Timbow.

[JimBeam]

What Tebow haters? He's a fantastic college spread QB. I'm sure he'll be a serviceable NFL HB/TE.

I personally am indifferent to him and his NFL career.

I hope the best for him at the next level but I've always just liked watching him play the college game and in my opinion he's been one of the best against some of the best competition.

This is a fitting swan song for him.

[ozzie]

I personally am indifferent to him and his NFL career.

I hope the best for him at the next level but I've always just liked watching him play the college game and in my opinion he's been one of the best against some of the best competition.

This is a fitting swan song for him.

If he played in another conference, or for another school much, MUCH farther away (Florida fans are obnoxious)... I wouldn't be as tired of him as I am.

No doubt that he and Meyer had a hell of a run. In their 4 years together, they will have lost only 7 games.

I'm just proud as hell that they were 0 - 2 against Auburn in the "Tebow years".

http://ballsiest.com/sportsblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/lou-holtz.jpg

NEVER FORGET! AU 20 - UF 17!

[JimBeam]

Emmanuelle Moody looks like what would happen if one of the Barbers, either Tiki or Ronde, had a baby w/ Hines Ward.

[ozzie]

fuck,we are under a winter storm warning for the next two days (nothing special here) but do they really have to blot out the info DURING THE FUCKING ROSE BOWL GAME!!

That's nothing... the Pensacola ABC affilate down here is in a major dispute with Mediacom. Basically, they're done negotiating, and Mediacom was not going to have an ABC channel starting today.

Why is this important? Not only were they not supposed to be getting the Rose Bowl game today... but BAMA is playing Texas for the national title on Jan 7th ON ABC, and all of the people in this area with mediacom cable TV were NOT going to get the game!!!

So ALL fucking day they've been running a HUGE scroll (like a third of the screen) about how they are generously going to extend their contract until January 8th... but basically telling people to switch to DirecTV or Dish Network if they ever want to see this channel again.

[JimBeam]

If he played in another conference, or for another school much, MUCH farther away (Florida fans are obnoxious)... I wouldn't be as tired of him as I am.

No doubt that he and Meyer had a hell of a run. In their 4 years together, they will have lost only 7 games.

I'm just proud as hell that they were 0 - 2 against Auburn in the "Tebow years".

http://ballsiest.com/sportsblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/lou-holtz.jpg

NEVER FORGET! AU 20 - UF 17!

You'll never get an argument from me that the announcers, no matter who they are, seem to talk him up too much.

But to me I've never seen or heard of him buying into that and I admire that.

I've never seen him smack talk or anything even after numerous defensive players mock him on one play and then he runs past them on another.

That's how the game should be played.

Some jerkoff on Cincy, down 30-3 w/ UF knocking in the door, starts celebrating by flexing after he stops Tebow for a loss on a busted play.

3 plays or so later UF has another TD where Tebow could've run it in but instead pitched it to Moody.

My reaction would've been to go find Mr Flex My Muscles and tell him to enjoy his bus ride back to Cincinnati.

[JimBeam]

That's nothing... the Pensacola ABC affilate down here is in a major dispute with Mediacom. Basically, they're done negotiating, and Mediacom was not going to have an ABC channel starting today.

Why is this important? Not only were they not supposed to be getting the Rose Bowl game today... but BAMA is playing Texas for the national title on Jan 7th ON ABC, and all of the people in this area with mediacom cable TV were NOT going to get the game!!!

So ALL fucking day they've been running a HUGE scroll (like a third of the screen) about how they are generously going to extend their contract until January 8th... but basically telling people to switch to DirecTV or Dish Network if they ever want to see this channel again.

I think there's some silliness going on w/ Time Warner and FOX in New York.

I keep hearing commercials, despite living in CT and having Comcast, that Time Warner subscribers may be w/o FOX and 24, the NFL, etc ....

[JimBeam]

Well that TD by Cincy made this game kinda pedestrian now.

These announcers weren't bad.

I especially liked Billick.

Think these guys will do the title game ?

It is on FOX huh ?

[ozzie]

Well that TD by Cincy made this game kinda pedestrian now.

These announcers weren't bad.

I especially liked Billick.

Think these guys will do the title game ?

It is on FOX huh ?

No... ABC.


See above.

[razorboy]

No... ABC.


See above.

Don't talk sense. It'll ruin everything.

[JimBeam]

Ahhh, and I just read that.

That exchange between the 2 announcers was pretty funny.

Not like the Rose Bowl where you have Herbsteit making sense and you have Mussburger talking up Terrell Pryor like he's, let's say, Tebow.

Brent how about you let the guy win a meaningful game that counts for something before your stroke him.

[razorboy]

Ahhh, and I just read that.

That exchange between the 2 announcers was pretty funny.

Not like the Rose Bowl where you have Herbsteit making sense and you have Mussburger talking up Terrell Pryor like he's, let's say, Tebow.

Brent how about you let the guy win a meaningful game that counts for something before your stroke him.

Why are you thinking about Musburger stroking anybody?

[epo]

These announcers weren't bad.

I especially liked Billick.

Going into this season, I never really cared for Billick or his persona. But he's done a bunch of Green Bay games this season and honestly I've been very, very impressed by his knowledge and analysis.

[JimBeam]

Yeah.

I've heard him do some weekly analysis on Boomer & Carton, or one of the shows, and he knows his stuff.

[ozzie]

Ahhh, and I just read that.

That exchange between the 2 announcers was pretty funny.

Not like the Rose Bowl where you have Herbsteit making sense and you have Mussburger talking up Terrell Pryor like he's, let's say, Tebow.

Brent how about you let the guy win a meaningful game that counts for something before your stroke him.

Musburger is intolerable on an average Saturday. Next Thursday night will be downright painful.

If I could get a radio feed other than Eli Gold and the Bammer homers, I'd listen to that with the TV sound down.

[epo]

I think there's some silliness going on w/ Time Warner and FOX in New York.

I keep hearing commercials, despite living in CT and having Comcast, that Time Warner subscribers may be w/o FOX and 24, the NFL, etc ....

I believe the FCC stepped in and twisted the arms of the Networks & the Cable Providers to delay any outages until after the bowl season.

If I was the cable providers, I'd be pissed as that removes some nice built-in negotating leverage....but as a consumer I'm good with it.

[JimBeam]

They'll probably have somebody decent doing it on Sirius.

[razorboy]

Going into this season, I never really cared for Billick or his persona. But he's done a bunch of Green Bay games this season and honestly I've been very, very impressed by his knowledge and analysis.

Lord knows he (the self-proclaimed offensive genius) can pick a fantastic NFL QB, if given the chance.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/kyle-boller-rams.jpg

[disneyspy]

That's nothing... the Pensacola ABC affilate down here is in a major dispute with Mediacom. Basically, they're done negotiating, and Mediacom was not going to have an ABC channel starting today.

Why is this important? Not only were they not supposed to be getting the Rose Bowl game today... but BAMA is playing Texas for the national title on Jan 7th ON ABC, and all of the people in this area with mediacom cable TV were NOT going to get the game!!!

So ALL fucking day they've been running a HUGE scroll (like a third of the screen) about how they are generously going to extend their contract until January 8th... but basically telling people to switch to DirecTV or Dish Network if they ever want to see this channel again.

there must have been enough complaints because they started showing their weather alerts under the game info

[JimBeam]

Which would've made sense to begin with you'd think.

[epo]

Lord knows he (the self-proclaimed offensive genius) can pick a fantastic NFL QB, if given the chance.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/razorboy_/kyle-boller-rams.jpg

Hot damn, Boller was terrible.

[ozzie]

With the DVR, I'm usually at least 30 minutes behind anyway, so I guess it's Brent or nothing.

I'm too spoiled now by being able to fast forward through commercials.

[JimBeam]

UF's interim coach looks like a phoney Brad Childress.

[SP1!]

And you Tebow haters are right, he really does suck.

18 for 20 for 307 yards and 3 TDs w/o an INT in the 1st half alone.

Against a Top 5 team.

Actually he was 18 for 19 until he just missed a pass.

Nah, you're not baiting me in on that one. This defense is horrible, and you know it.

And I don't think anyone ever disputed that he is a decent college quarterback/fullback overall. Most disparaging remarks were made towards his glaring lack of NFL skills.

Satchel Paige had a quicker release than Tim Tebow.
Yeah what ozzie said, teeblow may be a great college player but that does not mean shit in the NFL, hell vick got VT to the NC game in college but got owned and exposed in the NFL before he got busted, as an atlanta fan Im glad he did since any real football fan knew the limitations of vick as a pro QB.

Any fan of an NFL team that takes teeblow better pray he will play another position because his delivery will get killed in the pros. He is the product of a great team.

[SP1!]

Oh and sorry snoogans but you are seeing the reason why we make fun of big east teams, this is the best and it is getting killed by the number 2 team in the SEC and I fucking hate them!

I really wanted cincy to win and at the beginning it looked promising then it went to shit, fucking cincy always lets me down

[Tenbatsuzen]

Oh and sorry snoogans but you are seeing the reason why we make fun of big east teams, this is the best and it is getting killed by the number 2 team in the SEC and I fucking hate them!



I'm sure losing their coach has nothing to do with it, AMIRITE?

[razorboy]

I just hope Timbob Fancypants can keep herself from crying at the presser.

[ozzie]

I'm sure losing their coach has nothing to do with it, AMIRITE?

They had the 6th ranked defense in the BIG EAST in total yards given up.

Even with Brian Kelly, Florida would have put the same hurt on them.

[razorboy]

They had the 6th ranked defense in the BIG EAST in total yards given up.

Even with Brian Kelly, Florida would have put the same hurt on them.

I just love that UF's recruits and coaches are scattering like roaches under a searchlight.

[SP1!]

I'm sure losing their coach has nothing to do with it, AMIRITE?

Are you really going to blame this beat down on just losing a coach? Are you fucking serious?

Lets not kid ourselves I think we all wanted cincy to win, mainly just because I hate UF

[razorboy]

Are you really going to blame this beat down on just losing a coach? Are you fucking serious?

Lets not kid ourselves I think we all wanted cincy to win, mainly just because I hate UF

Clearly the blame lies solely on a crew cut waterhead.

[SP1!]

I just love that UF's recruits and coaches are scattering like roaches under a searchlight.

Yeah they have lost quite a few since meyers little announcement, its obvious that he wont be back for long so they are looking for different schools.

[SP1!]

Clearly the blame lies solely on a crew cut waterhead.

God I hate that kid, I dont know why, I just hate him.

[SP1!]

Another article on the Leach situation (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/19274638)

Craig James may be in real trouble now, more of his shit is coming to light

[Ritalin]

I just hope Timbob Fancypants can keep herself from crying at the presser.

watching ESPN now. Tebow showed up at the presser with those biblical eye black patches still on.

Oh, when he comes out of the closet I'm going to laugh and laugh. Whata douchebag.

[SP1!]

watching ESPN now. Tebow showed up at the presser with those biblical eye black patches still on.

Oh, when he comes out of the closet I'm going to laugh and laugh. Whata douchebag.

Im still convinced that him and his room mate are fuck buddies.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Another article on the Leach situation (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/19274638)

Craig James may be in real trouble now, more of his shit is coming to light

What "trouble"?

If anyone is in trouble, it's the ESPN editors, programmers, etc. who pushed this so hard, not James.

James is guilty of being a pissed off father.

Leach is digging himself a bigger hole more and more by opening his mouth.

[SP1!]

What "trouble"?

If anyone is in trouble, it's the ESPN editors, programmers, etc. who pushed this so hard, not James.

James is guilty of being a pissed off father.

Leach is digging himself a bigger hole more and more by opening his mouth.

James is guilty of using his position to try and influence playing time, he called coaches, the asst AD, and the AD hundreds of times to see why his son was sitting on the bench.

[Snoogans]

If what Mike Leach said was true in the New York Times on Friday, then what we all thought two days ago is a mirage. Leach and other sources claim that the coach did not, in fact, mistreat Adam James. Leach said only that he did not know where the player was taken and that he ordered only that James be taken "out of the light." Leach is supported by head trainer Steve Pincock and a team doctor.

Leach hasn’t spoken this candidly because he was busy suing the school. But now that it has fired him, the gloves are off. Most telling is the accusation by Leach that James leveraged his position as an ESPN analyst to get more playing time for his son. Through a spokesman, James said the accusations were "absurd."

if this shit is true, James is fucked

[Snoogans]

As is usually the case, the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle but let's look at this a different way. The fact that Leach would not "apologize" to the James family didn’t make sense from the beginning. If Adam’s treatment was so heinous, why would a simple apology make Big Daddy go away?

this is a good point. if leach did do something wrong, he woulda just said sorry and no one would care. the fact he didnt means he probably didnt do anything wrong

[SP1!]

if this shit is true, James is fucked
Thats my point, if James used his position to influence it in any way then he is beyond screwed and with leach being supported by the trainers it doesnt appear james is very honest.

this is a good point. if leach did do something wrong, he woulda just said sorry and no one would care. the fact he didnt means he probably didnt do anything wrong
The problem is it just wasnt an apology to the kid as I have stated, the AD wanted a public statement, prepared by his lawyers and had to give up some perks he got in his recent deal, at best it was a shakedown, at worst they wanted him out.

[razorboy]

Methinks Leach will be depositing every last cent of that contract, probably plus some.

[Tenbatsuzen]

James is guilty of using his position to try and influence playing time, he called coaches, the asst AD, and the AD hundreds of times to see why his son was sitting on the bench.

again, guilty of being a helicopter dad, but not a firable offense.

Nobody fucking heard a bad thing about Leach until this shit blew up. This isn't a hatchet campaign like ND waged against Weis for the past three years or what's currently going on with RichRod.

[ozzie]

"Cause", or "Without Cause"... it was a suck move to try to deny Leach his $400k/yr buy out.

Just pay the fucking thing so we can move on.

[Tenbatsuzen]

this is a good point. if leach did do something wrong, he woulda just said sorry and no one would care. the fact he didnt means he probably didnt do anything wrong

Or he thinks he didn't do anything wrong.

Basic point is this. this was handled badly by ALL parties, and Leach's mistake was that he thought he was irreplaceable when his employer thought otherwise and didn't like him to begin with.

[razorboy]

Or he thinks he didn't do anything wrong.

Basic point is this. this was handled badly by ALL parties, and Leach's mistake was that he thought he was irreplaceable when his employer thought otherwise and didn't like him to begin with.

Leach has always been an asshole and Myers knew this ten years ago. What makes this debacle all the more hilarious is that Myers had no qualms about hiring Bob Knight.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Leach has always been an asshole and Myers knew this ten years ago. What makes this debacle all the more hilarious is that Myers had no qualms about hiring Bob Knight.

However, Knight was pretty well-behaved during his time at Tech, wasn't he?

[Tenbatsuzen]

"Cause", or "Without Cause"... it was a suck move to try to deny Leach his $400k/yr buy out.

Just pay the fucking thing so we can move on.

That is a dick move I don't agree with. I think this is motivated to try and make Leach unhireable.

[SP1!]

again, guilty of being a helicopter dad, but not a firable offense.

Nobody fucking heard a bad thing about Leach until this shit blew up. This isn't a hatchet campaign like ND waged against Weis for the past three years or what's currently going on with RichRod.

Abusing his position to try and get his kid more playing time is a fireable offense and the reason you never heard anything bad about leach was because he was loyal to his players and staff. I never heard of any kind of hatchet job against weiss, it was obvious, he wins he stays, he loses, hes fired and richrod was pretty much the same thing, players whining about not getting enough time so they made up some bullshit. That blew over real quick and as long as he wins next year all will be forgiven.

[razorboy]

However, Knight was pretty well-behaved during his time at Tech, wasn't he?

When he wasn't punching players in the chin, shooting shotguns at people and attacking fans in the stands, he was practically a saint.

[KnoxHarrington]

A trainer for Texas Tech apparently did not approve of Leach's treatment of James, and a team doctor agreed.

n an affidavit obtained Saturday by The Associated Press, Texas Tech athletic trainer Steve Pincock says he told James he was "sorry" for having placed the player inside an equipment shed near the practice field.
On Dec. 21, Pincock spoke with Tech officials, telling them that he did not agree with that "form of treatment for anyone" and that Leach "wanted James to be uncomfortable."
In an interview a day later, team physician Dr. Michael Phy told university officials that James "may not have been harmed" but he "considered this practice inappropriate."

Even if the kid's dad is a pain in the ass, there are certain ways you cannot treat one of your players.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100102/ap_on_sp_co_ne/fbc_texas_tech_leach;_ylt=AgV740udvsQ9CpWg2nd9Wgas 0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFkMjd2OGplBHBvcwMxOTAEc2VjA2FjY29y ZGlvbl9zcG9ydHMEc2xrA3R0ZWNodHJhaW5lcg--

[Tenbatsuzen]

Abusing his position to try and get his kid more playing time is a fireable offense and the reason you never heard anything bad about leach was because he was loyal to his players and staff. I never heard of any kind of hatchet job against weiss, it was obvious, he wins he stays, he loses, hes fired and richrod was pretty much the same thing, players whining about not getting enough time so they made up some bullshit. That blew over real quick and as long as he wins next year all will be forgiven.

Again, the charge of abusing his position to get the kid playing time is preposterous. How exactly would that occur? Would Herbstreit throw it over to James on Gameday to discuss LSU, and James would says, "Enough about LSU, Mike Leach is a kid toucher."

[SP1!]

Again, the charge of abusing his position to get the kid playing time is preposterous. How exactly would that occur? Would Herbstreit throw it over to James on Gameday to discuss LSU, and James would says, "Enough about LSU, Mike Leach is a kid toucher."

Exactly, he slandered him on live TV.:dry:

Look, there will be incidences about this story we may never know but there is enough people saying that craig made hundreds of calls to Leach and his assistants asking about playing time for his son, leach showed poor judgment and played a message james had left for the team which led to james calling the AD.

Either way, with their being no past events for leach it is really rare for people to so readily throw one guy under the bus for something so minor, its not like fat mangino who supposedly struck a kid in his helmet and had a history of abuse. From all accounts leach was fiercely loyal to his players.

[SP1!]

Oh yeah all you need to know about craig james character is to realize he was one of the dirty players at SMU during the 70s-80s taking money to play and then lying to investigators, hes a scuzzbag so lets not act like he has a lot of credibility.

[razorboy]

You have to wonder about Craig James position at ESPN. What college coach in his right mind is going to say anything of import to this clown after this?

[SP1!]

You have to wonder about Craig James position at ESPN. What college coach in his right mind is going to say anything of import to this clown after this?
That is why it comes down to abuse of his position, his credibility is beyond shot now

[Ritalin]

That is why it comes down to abuse of his position, his credibility is beyond shot now

Radio Psychic: James will lose his job, and Tech will settle with Leach, and that settlement will include an apology.

You'll see.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Oh yeah all you need to know about craig james character is to realize he was one of the dirty players at SMU during the 70s-80s taking money to play and then lying to investigators, hes a scuzzbag so lets not act like he has a lot of credibility.

so let me get this straight -

Lying to be loyal to your coach in James' case = scumbag

Potential lying to be loyal to your coach in Leach's case = OK!

[Tenbatsuzen]

Exactly, he slandered him on live TV.:dry:

Look, there will be incidences about this story we may never know but there is enough people saying that craig made hundreds of calls to Leach and his assistants asking about playing time for his son, leach showed poor judgment and played a message james had left for the team which led to james calling the AD.
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Again, how does that equate losing his job at ESPN? Being a helicopter father doesn't mean you lose your job. He didn't abuse ESPN connections to call Leach. He didn't call LEach live on the air to ask why his kid wasn't getting playing time. He made a lot of phone calls about his son's interests. BFD. Compared to some of the other shenanigans in Bristol, this is kid's play.



Either way, with their being no past events for leach it is really rare for people to so readily throw one guy under the bus for something so minor, its not like fat mangino who supposedly struck a kid in his helmet and had a history of abuse. From all accounts leach was fiercely loyal to his players



But here's the key thing - HIS BOSSES DID NOT LIKE HIM AND WERE LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE TO GET RID OF HIM. Think about this. If you're at a job, and your relationship with management is tenuous at best, and you have a bad relationship with an employee you have power over, would you fuck with the employee still even if you knew you were being watched and the employee was a tattletale?

I'm not condoning Leach for what he did or didn't do. But he's handling it VERY badly.

[Snoogans]

so let me get this straight -

Lying to be loyal to your coach in James' case = scumbag

Potential lying to be loyal to your coach in Leach's case = OK!

loyal to your coach? thats a bunch of bullshit

First off the program pays the kids, not the coach. and 2, you tell the truth because lying to the NCAA makes the penalty worse. He fucked the program and the coach by being "loyal"

[disneyspy]

i bet that east carolina kicker would like to catch a flight on southwest airlines right about now

[SP1!]

so let me get this straight -

Lying to be loyal to your coach in James' case = scumbag

Potential lying to be loyal to your coach in Leach's case = OK!
He wasnt being paid by the coach, he was paid by other boosters with the full knowledge of the AD, read about it you may learn something

Again, how does that equate losing his job at ESPN? Being a helicopter father doesn't mean you lose your job. He didn't abuse ESPN connections to call Leach. He didn't call LEach live on the air to ask why his kid wasn't getting playing time. He made a lot of phone calls about his son's interests. BFD. Compared to some of the other shenanigans in Bristol, this is kid's play.
Its a conflict of interest at best and using his position to influence playing time at worst, I am sure more is going to come out and it is already not looking good for TT.

But here's the key thing - HIS BOSSES DID NOT LIKE HIM AND WERE LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE TO GET RID OF HIM. Think about this. If you're at a job, and your relationship with management is tenuous at best, and you have a bad relationship with an employee you have power over, would you fuck with the employee still even if you knew you were being watched and the employee was a tattletale?

I'm not condoning Leach for what he did or didn't do. But he's handling it VERY badly
Ok getting rid of him is a strong word but they did want to limit his powers and try to push him out to give them a year to find a new coach, they were pissed he didnt sign right away after last year and just take whatever crumbs they gave him. He interviewed with other teams and considered lesser positions or NFL jobs for OC, they finally had to sign him and he fleeced them for everything and more. There are numerous memos floating around from a dallas paper that sets this plan out in detail, its quit shitty by them, this was just a reason they inflated to try and get him to give some power back and lose some of his money. It blew up in their faces because he wasnt going to read their statement and then sued them, so they fired him and used the with cause statement so they would owe him nothing in their minds. In the end, they are going to lose a lot more money and have very few coaches want to be at that shit hole.

[JimBeam]

Yeah what ozzie said, teeblow may be a great college player but that does not mean shit in the NFL, hell vick got VT to the NC game in college but got owned and exposed in the NFL before he got busted, as an atlanta fan Im glad he did since any real football fan knew the limitations of vick as a pro QB.

Any fan of an NFL team that takes teeblow better pray he will play another position because his delivery will get killed in the pros. He is the product of a great team.

SP you kill me dude.

First of all, and hopefully the last time, my comments about Tebow have always been about his college career as this is the college football thread.

He's the product of a great team ?

The team in no way benefited from him ?

They won as many games as last year despite losing at least one great player ( Harvin ).

This is the senior class w/ the most wins in SEC history.

UF has had plenty of great teams, maybe even teams w/ better offensive skill players and defenses, yet those teams never won this many games.

You can hate on the kid all you want but in the opinion of many experts who follow the game he's been one of the best players in the game and I agree w/ them.

And I'm talking about the unbiased experts like Fowler, Herbstreit, Howard, etc ...

Not the color commentators.

What he does, if anything, as a pro won't change what he did in college.

Just as it's never changed what 95% of great college players who had terrible or non-existent NFL careers did at their schools.

[JimBeam]

Also SP in light of the new news from all of these trainers you said were backing Leach do you maybe wanna change your opinion ?

Now you have the trainer and head medical guy saying what did happen and that they didn't agree w/ it.

Texas Tech Red Raiders trainer told school he disagreed on treatment of Adam James

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4790586

You think James used his position as possibly the 8th on air college football guy to make these guys change their opinions ?

Remember James is not Fowler, Herbstreit, Corso, Howard, Reis Davis, Mark May, Lou Holtz, Trevor Madig ( sp ?? ).

All guys who would probably be considered higher on the food chain.

Also remember that James was at ESPN years ago and then left before coming back.

He's not exactly some favorite son by any means.

Oh but wait now we have ACTIVE players, not guys that left the program in prior years, saying they thought Leach was losing it.

Texas Tech players describe a different side of fired coach Mike Leach

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/news/story?id=4792320

You think ESPN got to them too ?

Is their no end to the reach James has ?

Oh and now James' playing for SMU, 4 years or so before they go the death penalty, is in any way related ?

Not the coaches or administrators that paid players or fixed grades ?

Do you have any proof that James ever took money or was even accused of taking money that in some way implicated him in the SMU scandal ?

Other than that he played there.

It may be out there but it wasn't mentioned in anything I've read on it.

Maybe he used his influence at ESPN to have all news sources bury that.

It's a possibility as he appears to be a slipery one.

[JimBeam]

I think one of the articles did mention that James told Leach he'd give him favorable coverage if he played his son.

If that's true then I could see ESPN firing him.

To Tenbat's point being a concerned father is one thing and even calling the coach as a nusiance is another thing but if he did try and leverage his position than that's uncalled for and should be addressed.

Supposedly there are audio tapes of some of James' calls so hopefully those will be released so we can hear to what extent James was a little league dad and when/if he crossed the line.

Regardless of how many calls he made and/or if he was shadey none of that changes the fact that Leach singled out a player and possibly put him in harms way.

I'm not sure how many of us have kids but I'd think we'd all be pissed if we found out our child was being mistreated.

If the kid shows up w/ a bad attitude and or is acting up you discipline him but don't make it some farternity hazing situation.

And again if he's that bad why not just cut him ?

[SP1!]

Yes, teebow is good in college but you cant deny that having some of the guys around him made him better and the defense the past two years was gangbusters but most are leaving with him next year.

And of course those current staff members are changing their story now, when they gave their first statements Leach was just suspended, now they must conform or get fired. But as the trainers have stated Leach never told them where to put him, just get him out of his sight, put him some place dark. Again it was the little shits attitude that was bad and if you have been around any coach with a bad attitude then you know you are getting the shit end of the stick from him. He had methods that were strange but he required discipline and some kids didnt want to do that at all, hes a coach and I see nothing really strange about it at all. I had one coach that regularly ran us until most of us were puking, is that abuse? The kid is a punk and so is his father.

Here is the last article I will link, it even has the emails from the university talking about their plan to force him out. (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/01/sports/ncaafootball/01leach.html)

In the end, mike leach isnt a dick, hes a football coach, they are all dickish.

[JimBeam]

So you say that you'd have no problem with Leach doing the same thing to your son if he played for him ?

I doubt it.

As far as being pressured to sign affidavits this isn't television and the mob isn't involved.

If it was so easy for institutions and corporations to force employees to lie then there'd never be a sexual harassment or improper firing case won by a plaintif.

It's too easy to go for the conspiracy.

It's much easier to believe where there's smole there's fire.

I still wanna know if you have details for a fact that James was directly involved in SMU getting the death penalty or if you were just lumping things together.

You might want to see how the program you're defending acted a few years prior to Leach getting there :

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/fetch-team.pl?team=Texas_Tech

There must be something in the water in Texas.

[JimBeam]

Not that this can be treated as fact but here are somethings I found, some of which was from Wikipedia I think :

James attended Stratford High School in Houston, Texas, where he was a star on Stratford's 1978 Texas class 4A championship football team, setting the single-season Texas 4A rushing record with 2,411 yards gained in 15 games. James, a running back, also attended Southern Methodist University where he and teammate Eric Dickerson formed what was known as the "Pony Express" backfield (SMU's mascot is the mustang). In the 1980 Holiday Bowl (known as the Miracle Bowl), James' offensive production of 225 rushing yards and 9.9 yards/carry were both Holiday Bowl records that stood for 13 and 15 years respectively.[1] In 1982, he scored on a 96-yard touchdown reception to set a new record as the longest scoring play in Southwest Conference history.[2] James was a part of the SMU teams that were found to have committed numerous NCAA violations, including receiving large sums of money from school boosters, which led to the enactment of the "death penalty" upon the school by the NCAA,[3] although James himself was never accused of any wrongdoing.

This was just a reply to the topic on Yahoo Answers :

There were 15 players involved in the slush fund deal. Only three were ever disclosed publicly. James wasn't one of them. The occurrences cited by the investigative reporter and the NCAA happened after James graduated.

[Ritalin]

That head trainer changed his story, so his credibility is shot, and if I'm reading what the team doctor is saying, he's threading the needle pretty carefully. He said and I'm paraphrasing that putting James in a dark room is not standard medical procedure and not something he - the doctor - would do.

He didn't say that anything that James went through put him any harm. I'm no lawyer, but that would be my first question.

And that ESPN story from after the game quotes one kid, with some kids who wouldn't come forward, saying that things weren't great with the program. One kid.

I don't care about Craig James, I really don't, the whole SMU thing, whether or not he keeps his job.

But I still haven't read anything that leads me to believe the unversity when it says that Leach put Andy James - or any other kid for that matter - in a position to be exposed to undue harm. There just isn't anything there.

[JimBeam]

And that ESPN story from after the game quotes one kid, with some kids who wouldn't come forward, saying that things weren't great with the program. One kid

Actually there was a quote the other day from a WR still on the team that was anti-Leach.

The only quotes, 3 as far as I can tell, that came pro-Lech were by kids that aren't even in the prgram anymore ?

Those carry more weight ?

Also by players NOT saying something in Leach's defense says a lot.

If you loved your coach and thought he was getting railroaded why wouldn't you speak up ?

But I still haven't read anything that leads me to believe the unversity when it says that Leach put Andy James - or any other kid for that matter - in a position to be exposed to undue harm. There just isn't anything there.

But you read the trainer or doctor say that they've never heard of another player w/ a concusion being put in a shed.

That shows you that it's not standard practice by any means and could indicate an attitude towards the player.

[JimBeam]

A blurb from the Dallas News :

Tag-team coaching: Brown offered an interesting response to media reports that Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops had visited the Alabama football complex in late December.

"I think it's the greatest compliment a program could have," Brown said. "I think it's really cool that people are ganging up to try to beat you, if that's what happened."

Brown said he didn't blame any coach for trying to gain an edge. Alabama coach Nick Saban told reporters that it was just a continuation of meetings that began in the summer, not a strategy session in preparation for Texas.

[SP1!]

Actually there was a quote the other day from a WR still on the team that was anti-Leach.
The only quotes, 3 as far as I can tell, that came pro-Lech were by kids that aren't even in the prgram anymore ?
Those carry more weight ?
Also by players NOT saying something in Leach's defense says a lot.
If you loved your coach and thought he was getting railroaded why wouldn't you speak up?
But you read the trainer or doctor say that they've never heard of another player w/ a concusion being put in a shed.
That shows you that it's not standard practice by any means and could indicate an attitude towards the player.
Yes that same player that was outspoken was also complaining about playing time then saying he locked him in a cage like an animal, which is bullshit even the trainers and doctors dispute how he was held. And why should it shock you that there are few pro leach players speaking out now that hes fired? These kids livelihood depends on the school extending their scholarships every year so they can keep playing and go to school, Im shocked the trainer and doctor didnt come out stronger against leach but the doctor wont have to worry about a job later like the trainer. One of the links I posted said that james showed up to practice in sunglasses and when leach told him he needed to take them off he was whining about how the sun aggravates his concussion, it probably does judging from my concussion but the attitude is what pissed leach or any coach for that matter. Thats where the put him someplace dark comes from, its not like he hasnt done unique things before, another link states he made a player sit on the 50 yard line to study since he skipped mandatory study halls. Hes quirky but hes never hurt a player, the university stand is pretty flimsy and was no reason to fire him. I wouldnt have a problem sending a kid there, hes strange but he has gotten results and if you have ever played then people realize coaches are weird entities. That dont make you a bad person though.

And the yahoo answer is a lie, SMU was paying players as far back as the 60s and was known to pay money to star players in 72, thats why eric dickerson, james and other high recruits went there. Just go to the smu wiki page, I posted it somewhere in here.

A blurb from the Dallas News :

Yeah I dont think anyone even thinks that saban needs help beating that team, bama is going to stomp them and it pisses me off

[JimBeam]

I'm pretty sure Bama will win but I know a lot of other sure things have fallen through in the past.

[ozzie]

Although I hate the guy for leaving AU for a "lateral move" to be the DC at Texas...

...I'm still a big Will Muschamp fan as far a his coaching and prep ability.

Florida might have had similar, or even better overall talent on D... but with Muschamp having a month to prepare... I think this will be the toughest defense Bama has faced all year, and I think McElroy is going to have a tough time Thursday night.

Tennessee and Auburn both had two weeks to prepare for Bama, and both held Bama in check for most of the game with far less talent and depth.

Muschamp is really good at disguising his coverages and blitzes. I can see McElroy audible'ing right into the Longhorns hands more than a few times.

Having worked under Saban might also help him understand adjustments Saban has made in the past in bowl prep, and be another advantage.

I'm still picking Texas to win.

[JimBeam]

Not that I cared about either team last night but that TCU QB stunk the joint up yesterday.

[Snoogans]

Not that I cared about either team last night but that TCU QB stunk the joint up yesterday.

both QBs were less than impressive. Moore was throwin shit all over, he just was lucky enough that the Defense wasnt there to catch it.

And it still ended up being a pretty good game.

What are you guys thinkin tonight. Georgia Tech is giving 5.5 and id lean toward them but Iowa plays fuckin close games so that number worries me some

[JimBeam]

I knew LSU would kill Ga Tech and the option last year but that was a talent issue.

I'm not sure that Iowa has the talent to flat out beat the option.

I know they've said that Iowa's defense is good but I think most of that comes from their pass defense which probably won't get tested much.

I'm leaning to the fact that Iowa might win because they've had some time to prepare for the option but I don't know how close it'll be.

[El Mudo]

Although I hate the guy for leaving AU for a "lateral move" to be the DC at Texas...

...I'm still a big Will Muschamp fan as far a his coaching and prep ability.

Florida might have had similar, or even better overall talent on D... but with Muschamp having a month to prepare... I think this will be the toughest defense Bama has faced all year, and I think McElroy is going to have a tough time Thursday night.

Tennessee and Auburn both had two weeks to prepare for Bama, and both held Bama in check for most of the game with far less talent and depth.

Muschamp is really good at disguising his coverages and blitzes. I can see McElroy audible'ing right into the Longhorns hands more than a few times.

Having worked under Saban might also help him understand adjustments Saban has made in the past in bowl prep, and be another advantage.

I'm still picking Texas to win.


I am too, if only because I don't think McElroy is very good at all. I think the Florida game was a combination of a lack of pass rush on Florida's part, and him playing the absolute game of his life. I just can't see lightning striking twice.

I don't think McCoy will do that much better against Bama's defense, but he won't lose the game for them.

[JimBeam]

The thing is Texas doesn't have much of a threat running the ball and Bama's pash rush and secondary are very good.

That doesn't leave Texas with many options.

[JimBeam]

Iowa could've put this game away if Stanzi didn't throw that stupid INT.

Going up 17-0 or even 21-0 would'be deflated Ga Tech.

Iowa is doing a good job of shutting down the option though.

That was a pretty telling stat a bit ago.

Ga Tech only had 14 " 3 and Outs " all year, best in the FBS, and they have 4 so far in this game.

One of these announcers is useless.

He keeps saying " Paul Johnson likes to go for it on 4th down. "

He's said it on almost every possesion no matter where they have been on the field and yet they haven't done it once.

Yeah because his offense has done nothing all game he figures he'll take a chance and go for it on his own 37 so in case he doesn't make it he can give Iowa the short field a a potential score.

If they ever do go for it he's gonna be like " I told you so. "

[JimBeam]

One of these announcers is useless.

He keeps saying " Paul Johnson likes to go for it on 4th down. "

He just said it again.

Any chance they'll replace him at the half ?

He's dreadful.

[El Mudo]

The thing is Texas doesn't have much of a threat running the ball and Bama's pash rush and secondary are very good.

That doesn't leave Texas with many options.

Yeah, but if McElroy screws up a couple times, and its all of a sudden 17-3 (which can happen pretty quickly), I just can't see Bama coming back from that. Same with Texas, but I think they'll be able to do better with a short field.

[SP1!]

I knew LSU would kill Ga Tech and the option last year but that was a talent issue.

I'm not sure that Iowa has the talent to flat out beat the option.

I know they've said that Iowa's defense is good but I think most of that comes from their pass defense which probably won't get tested much.

I'm leaning to the fact that Iowa might win because they've had some time to prepare for the option but I don't know how close it'll be.

I think Iowa proved it tonight, you give anyone with talent a little more time to prepare and they shut that offense down, no wonder paul johnson wants a playoff, he wants to make sure no one can prepare.

[CountryBob]

Man the ACC sucks so bad in BCS games. They had better get some wins under their belt or they might lose their auto BCS bid (wont happen). I think the Hokies would have won that game against Iowa. Too bad they didnt win the ACC.

[ozzie]

Man the ACC sucks so bad in BCS games. They had better get some wins under their belt or they might lose their auto BCS bid (wont happen). I think the Hokies would have won that game against Iowa. Too bad they didnt win the ACC.

None of the conferences have really dominated this year:

TOT CONF__ WIN LOSS % _____ BCS
9 - SEC_____ - 5 - 4 - 55.56% __ 1 - 0 (1 Team Left to Play)
7 - BIG 10___ - 4 - 3 - 57.14% __ 2 - 0
7 - BIG 12___ - 4 - 3 - 57.14% __ 0 - 0 (1 Team Left to Play)
6 - BIG EAST_ - 4 - 2 - 66.67% __ 0 - 1
5 - MWC____ - 4 - 1 - 80.00% __ 0 - 1
7 - ACC_____ - 3 - 4 - 42.86% __ 0 - 1
7 - PAC 10___ - 2 - 5 - 28.57% __ 0 - 1
6 - C-USA___ - 2 - 4 - 33.33% __ 0 - 0
4 - WAC____ - 2 - 2 - 50.00% __ 1 - 0
1 - SUNBELT_ - 1 - 0 - 100.00% _ 0 - 0 (1 Team Left to Play)
1 - IND_____ - 1 - 0 - 100.00% _ 0 - 0
4 - MAC____ -- 0 - 4 - 0.00% ___ 0 - 0 (1 Team Left to Play)

It's all about matchups in any given year. This year, there's been some good ones.

But, yeah, the ACC needs to step it up in BCS games. I think they're 2 - 10 now with last night's loss?

[JimBeam]

I didn't think I'd watch as much of that game last night as I did but I pretty much saw all of it.

Stanzi's awful.

I couldn't stand to watch that guy on a weekly basis if I was an Iowa fan.

I was glad that Ga Tech lost because they were doing far too much posturing on certain plays despite trailing the entire game.

Their QB really blows when he has to throw the ball.

I've seen Army and Navy QBs that ran the option that were much better than him.

[SP1!]

Whooo hooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GMAC BOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[smo22]

need some help... who will win Alabama or Texas?

[epo]

need some help... who will win Alabama or Texas?

Alabama.

Book it.

[smo22]

Well that just sucks then. I am on top in the pick em and the guy behind me will pick Alabama with 34 points. He will definitly pass me.

[Snoogans]

Alabama.

Book it.

YOOOOOOOO

Not so fast, my friend.

sorry i wanted to say that. but i think this shit sucks balls. Its so hard to get a read on teams after so much time off. Bama should win this game, but who knows if they come out flat.


AND FUCK YOU LEFEVOUR AND CENTRAL MICHIGAN. fuckin push cause you sissies dont go for the TD in OT 2. FAGGOTS

[SP1!]

More florida players jumping ship (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4802606)

How much longer is meyer going to keep saying hes staying with all his decent players jumping ship? This may be the farthest drop we have ever seen in college ball, they may be .500 next year.

[Snoogans]

More florida players jumping ship (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4802606)

How much longer is meyer going to keep saying hes staying with all his decent players jumping ship? This may be the farthest drop we have ever seen in college ball, they may be .500 next year.

jaguars baby

[SP1!]

LOL and this story broke over the weekend and most ignored it

http://13psi.com/gators-recruit-signs/

[Snoogans]

LOL and this story broke over the weekend and most ignored it

http://13psi.com/gators-recruit-signs/

at least they didnt rob someone wearing official florida football shirts.

or post a pic of themselves on myspace holding the 75K clemson just gave them to sign the day after he signed

[SP1!]

at least they didnt rob someone wearing official florida football shirts.

or post a pic of themselves on myspace holding the 75K clemson just gave them to sign the day after he signed

Yeah that would be worse, I am wondering if meyer may be under other suspicion and is yet another reason why hes leaving.

[Snoogans]

Yeah that would be worse, I am wondering if meyer may be under other suspicion and is yet another reason why hes leaving.

that could be a fair point too

[joeybags]

even though it was the GMAC bowl between troy and central michigan i really enjoyed that game last night...

blocked FG in double OT...lets hope the game tonight lives up to it's hype

[Snoogans]

even though it was the GMAC bowl between troy and central michigan i really enjoyed that game last night...

blocked FG in double OT...lets hope the game tonight lives up to it's hype

fuck them. so what you blocked the FG, go score a fuckin Touchdown and cover the spread assholes. I pushed the game but fuck, i shoulda won

[ozzie]

even though it was the GMAC bowl between troy and central michigan i really enjoyed that game last night...

blocked FG in double OT...lets hope the game tonight lives up to it's hype

It wasn't quite the 64 - 61 double OT win by Leftwich and Marshall in 2001 (still the highest scoring bowl game ever)... but it was pretty darn good.

[Snoogans]

It wasn't quite the 64 - 61 double OT win by Leftwich and Marshall in 2001 (still the highest scoring bowl game ever)... but it was pretty darn good.

it was another in a long line of cases why bowl games DO kick ass. so what if most of them are technically glorified exhibitions. the stats still count. the record still counts. the game still counts. And every single team that plays a bowl game, that means something to them. even if they snuck in at 6-6, and more than just the cash you get for making the bowl, the games matter to the teams, and they play it like its a real game. And alot of them end up very good.

Someone remind me why its a bad thing that they play 34 football games in like 3 weeks?

[ozzie]

it was another in a long line of cases why bowl games DO kick ass. so what if most of them are technically glorified exhibitions. the stats still count. the record still counts. the game still counts. And every single team that plays a bowl game, that means something to them. even if they snuck in at 6-6, and more than just the cash you get for making the bowl, the games matter to the teams, and they play it like its a real game. And alot of them end up very good.

Someone remind me why its a bad thing that they play 34 football games in like 3 weeks?

Nope. I promised that I wouldn't ruin bowl season for anyone this year by mentioning the "P" word.

Maybe tomorrow.

[ozzie]

it was another in a long line of cases why bowl games DO kick ass. so what if most of them are technically glorified exhibitions. the stats still count. the record still counts. the game still counts. And every single team that plays a bowl game, that means something to them. even if they snuck in at 6-6, and more than just the cash you get for making the bowl, the games matter to the teams, and they play it like its a real game. And alot of them end up very good.

Someone remind me why its a bad thing that they play 34 football games in like 3 weeks?

Surprisingly... my favorite bowl so far this year, was the one that I thought was going to be my least fave... which was the Idaho vs Bowling Green - Humanitarian Bowl... even dispite the smurf turf and the Idaho coaches goofy looking glasses.

[Snoogans]

Surprisingly... my favorite bowl so far this year, was the one that I thought was going to be my least fave... which was the Idaho vs Bowling Green - Humanitarian Bowl... even dispite the smurf turf and the Idaho coaches goofy looking glasses.

my favorite was rutgers 45 central florida 24

[Snoogans]

never in my life did i expect to hear Chris Carlin's voice on a sportscenter best college football moments of the decade

[JimBeam]

More florida players jumping ship (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4802606)

How much longer is meyer going to keep saying hes staying with all his decent players jumping ship? This may be the farthest drop we have ever seen in college ball, they may be .500 next year.

That's being a bit dramatic.

No matter who they lose teams like Vandy, KY, Miss St and whatever silly non-BCS teams they play do not all of a sudden become better.

Let's not forget that UF lost a senior, championship winning QB and replaced him w/ a Heisman winner.

You never know what's gonna happen.

I do think the status of Meyer, will he/when he coach again, is confusing for the team and recruits but they are still UF and will get players based on that alone.

Will it be enough to give them the success they've had in the last 4 years ?

Probably not but it'd be tough to top that even w/ Meyer.

Are the Pouncey brothers projected to be good NFL players ?

I haven't heard much about them.

[SP1!]

Nope. I promised that I wouldn't ruin bowl season for anyone this year by mentioning the "P" word.

Maybe tomorrow.

Even if they go to playoffs they wont drop all the other bowls, its not like all the big names will be in the playoffs.

And yeah jim, they did but this is a little different with all the defensive starters that are leaving for the pros and most of their receivers going pro.

I still predict 4-5 losses for them next year, more if meyer leaves.

[JimBeam]

USC was constantly losing good players and it wasn't until this year that it really impacted them.

Obvioulsy there was never any real doubt that the coach would be back but it's still simiar w/ regards to losing good players.

[Aggie]

i can't believe i am going to say this because of my rivalry with bama but ROLL TIDE

[JimBeam]

I really don't know why I'm pulling for Bama other than a loyalty to the SEC because when you look at the coaches it seems like it's much easier to like Mack Brown than it is to like Saban.

But for some reason I've always rooted against Brown ( maybe because he was always mocked as being unable to win a big game back when he was at NC ).

Even McCoy seems nice enough but I'm rooting against him as well.

I liked some of the older Bama teams when Stallings was there but kinda lost an interest for them when those other scab coaches were there.

So let's hope the SEC stays undefeated in BCS championship games.

[SP1!]

USC was constantly losing good players and it wasn't until this year that it really impacted them.

Obvioulsy there was never any real doubt that the coach would be back but it's still simiar w/ regards to losing good players.

They didnt lose key components until the past year, they lost a few but there were players who had shown they were ready to step up and take their place, florida was only up there because the SEC was down this year.

And fuck bama, I hope texas wins but I dont expect them to even be close.

[ozzie]

The rest of the SEC agrees....

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Never forget people... He's Nick Saban... and you're NOT!

[ozzie]

i can't believe i am going to say this because of my rivalry with bama but ROLL TIDE

Really? This is the group you want to join tonight?

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[Aggie]

so do i root for my most hated rival? can't they both lose? ugh.

[ozzie]

Yeah, that's a tough one.

Maybe we can hope for game so terrible that the AP gives their National Championship to Boise State.

[ozzie]

Did Brent just say that Nick compared this run to the 1980 US Olympic Hockey team...

...and pointed out that when the US beat the USSR, that it was only the "semi-final" game...

...so he's comparing Florida to the USSR... and Texas to Finland!?!?!?

I told you this guy is a fucking douche.

Fuck it... HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!!

[ozzie]

And a THANK YOU to ABC for pointing out that Bama has "maybe" 7 Titles (more like 5)...

...No where near the 12 AS THEY CLAIM!!!

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[weekapaugjz]

Did Brent just say that Nick compared this run to the 1980 US Olympic Hockey team...

...and pointed out that when the US beat the USSR, that it was only the "semi-final" game...

...so he's comparing Florida to the USSR... and Texas to Finland!?!?!?

I told you this guy is a fucking douche.

Fuck it... HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!!

mike tirico mentioned it on espn radio and then musberger said it too. how the fuck is alabama compared to the u.s. team? #1 rating doesn't really mean underdog.

so lame.

[Jughead]

Roll Tide even though no more lunch reports or my hat I won on a bet...:thumbdown:

[sailor]

'bama by 10. wearing my houndstooth fedora for the occasion.

[ozzie]

Muschamp's defense... all fucking night baby.

[epo]

Yeah, that's a tough one.

Maybe we can hope for game so terrible that the AP gives their National Championship to Boise State.

That's impossible.

Boise State is a fucking joke.

[ozzie]

Ahahahahahahahah.... Nice Fake!!!! Eat It Saban!!!!

[weekapaugjz]

that texas guy should have just knocked it down.

[sailor]

um, but shouldn't the idiot have just knocked it down? (like weeka said...)

[ozzie]

That's impossible.

Boise State is a fucking joke.

Uh... no... they're undefeated, and the AP can award it to whoever the fuck they want.

They could have crowned Utah last year if they chose to do so.

[weekapaugjz]

nice goal line stand by bama.

[Snoogans]

its the coaches that agreed to go with the BCS, not the AP. Texas fuckin sucks

[Mitch&Murray]

Colt McCoy heading to lockerroom


Roll Tide

[ozzie]

nice goal line stand by bama.

Made a little easier by removing the threat to throw the ball.

But I don't think anyone questioned that Texas was going to have trouble running on Bama's D... especially between the tackles.

Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for this Bama team... I just hate Saban.

[Snoogans]

wow bama sucks

[weekapaugjz]

this is fucking awesome. fuck saban.

[ozzie]

I've got a dime on the UNDER tonight... so this is playing out just fine so far.

[weekapaugjz]

mcelroy needs to get rid of the ball.

[Mitch&Murray]

Colt McCoys Mom is kinda hot.

[ozzie]

Fuck. No matter what Muschamp dials up... if they can't generate any offense without McCoy, and keep giving Bama a short field... this is over.

Such a letdown.

[Snoogans]

game set match

[epo]

Uh... no... they're undefeated, and the AP can award it to whoever the fuck they want.

They could have crowned Utah last year if they chose to do so.

Theoretically, sure. But realistically, the Boise States, the TCUs and the Cincinnati's need to shut the fuck up and join a conference that plays football.

We all know these mid-majors are a joke...and anybody who votes for one as a "national champion" should lose their vote.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

There is no way McCoy is coming back into this game.

[ozzie]

Theoretically, sure. But realistically, the Boise States, the TCUs and the Cincinnati's need to shut the fuck up and join a conference that plays football.

We all know these mid-majors are a joke...and anybody who votes for one as a "national champion" should lose their vote.

Soooo.... they should ALL join a "BCS" conference? You want there to be SIX conferences with 20 schools in each one?

[epo]

Soooo.... they should ALL join a "BCS" conference? You want there to be SIX conferences with 20 schools in each one?

Or teams that want to be taken seriously should put a couple of decent non-conference teams on their schedule.

Also, try not playing on blue turf like a 3rd grader.

[ozzie]

Oh wait... you threw Cincinnati in there too... so I guess we're down to 5 conferences that "play football".

[Snoogans]

Oh wait... you threw Cincinnati in there too... so I guess we're down to 5 conferences that "play football".

yea the big east sucks balls. just ask spurrier

[sailor]

i think the game's just moving too fast for this true freshman qb.

[ozzie]

i think the game's just moving too fast for this true freshman qb.

Watching him mouth the words "I'm trying"... to a teammate on the sideline after the shuffle-pass-pick-six... made me really feel sorry for the kid.

He's in way over his head.

[sailor]

Watching him mouth the words "I'm trying"... to a teammate on the sideline after the shuffle-pass-pick-six... made me really feel sorry for the kid.

He's in way over his head.

i was just irritated they said some version of that line like 5 times in 3 minutes.

[epo]

Oh wait... you threw Cincinnati in there too... so I guess we're down to 5 conferences that "play football".

Absolutely. Quite honestly, it would be impossible for one of these mid-majors to run the table in a real conference.

[Snoogans]

Absolutely. Quite honestly, it would be impossible for one of these mid-majors to run the table in a real conference.

i will not allow this big east bashing, not until rutgers moves to the big ten

[epo]

i will not allow this big east bashing, not until rutgers moves to the big ten

I'm exempting Rutgers from the bashing, as we all know that move is inevitable.

[Snoogans]

I'm exempting Rutgers from the bashing, as we all know that move is inevitable.

goddamn right. and rutgers true freshman QB never had to cry to teammates that he's trying

[epo]

goddamn right. and rutgers true freshman QB never had to cry to teammates that he's trying

So its agreed upon. Only 5 conferences + Rutgers (future Big Ten) can really win the BCS Championship...since the other conferences are goddamned jokes.

[JPMNICK]

boise is the SEC this year would have been a 2 loss team

[Snoogans]

So its agreed upon. Only 5 conferences + Rutgers (future Big Ten) can really win the BCS Championship...since the other conferences are goddamned jokes.

awesome

[ozzie]

Well, the BCS agrees with you, so you MUST be right.

And by putting Boise and TCU in the same game, they made sure there weren't any repeats of last year's Sugar Bowl (which was obviously just a "fluke").

[epo]

Well, the BCS agrees with you, so you MUST be right.

And by putting Boise and TCU in the same game, they made sure there weren't any repeats of last year's Sugar Bowl (which was obviously just a "fluke").

I was praying that Texas would lose to Nebraska, so that TCU or Boise would have to play Alabama and I'd never hear a peep from the mid-majors again.

Didn't we learn anything from Cincinnati/Florida?

[ihaveabadmonkey]

what a great kick.

[SP1!]

its the coaches that agreed to go with the BCS, not the AP. Texas fuckin sucks

Yeah thats much better, having a bunch of fat ass journalists that were never good enough to make their high school football team vote on a champion.

I was praying that Texas would lose to Nebraska, so that TCU or Boise would have to play Alabama and I'd never hear a peep from the mid-majors again.

Didn't we learn anything from Cincinnati/Florida?

I agree that BSU, TCU, and cincy sucks but I just hoped bama lost I fucking hate them, and snoog even though rutgers is in there, the big east sucks, RU needs to get better quick and run that table every year there until that happens they would only finish 5th in the big 10leven

[Mitch&Murray]

Texas is gonna make a game of this.

[ozzie]

I was praying that Texas would lose to Nebraska, so that TCU or Boise would have to play Alabama and I'd never hear a peep from the mid-majors again.

Didn't we learn anything from Cincinnati/Florida?

And we learned something from Utah smacking this same Bama team in the mouth last year.... and from Boise over Oklahoma in 2006... and Utah under Urban Meyer in 2004.

We learned that this is why they play the fucking games and why championships shouldn't be won by who gets the most votes.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

this kid is going to bring them back and win this game.

[ozzie]

this kid is going to bring them back and win this game.

I'll never stop laughing if he does.

[weekapaugjz]

wow. and to think what this game could have been with mccoy in the whole game.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

if he pulls this out, he is going to get so much ass when they get back to Texas.

[SP1!]

And we learned something from Utah smacking this same Bama team in the mouth last year.... and from Boise over Oklahoma in 2006... and Utah under Urban Meyer in 2004.

We learned that this is why they play the fucking games and why championships shouldn't be won by who gets the most votes.

Yes, we learned that going through a shit conference schedule allows you to get to the final game against a good team without a scratch.

Until these teams take a pounding in a real conference they cant be taken seriously, and its not the same bama team and you know that, this defense is better than most in the nation so lets not kid yourself and say that its the same team, its insulting.

Those small teams do not want a playoff, they want to get invited to the BCS games for a big payday, in a playoff system they would win one, maybe two games at best and they fucking know it. All their whining and posturing is to get that huge payday at the end of the year, its why they wont change their conferences, if they did then they would only get one payday instead of the two they got this year.

[weekapaugjz]

Yes, we learned that going through a shit conference schedule allows you to get to the final game against a good team without a scratch.

Until these teams take a pounding in a real conference they cant be taken seriously, and its not the same bama team and you know that, this defense is better than most in the nation so lets not kid yourself and say that its the same team, its insulting.

Those small teams do not want a playoff, they want to get invited to the BCS games for a big payday, in a playoff system they would win one, maybe two games at best and they fucking know it. All their whining and posturing is to get that huge payday at the end of the year, its why they wont change their conferences, if they did then they would only get one payday instead of the two they got this year.

why don't teams like boise or tcu deserve a payday? just keep giving money to teams like florida, alabama, texas, etc.

[SP1!]

I'll never stop laughing if he does.

And I will get weeks of laughter at all the bama fans around me, fucking annoying fags.

[ozzie]

Wait... how 'bout we just go back to the first quarter and have everyone VOTE on whether Texas could beat Bama with a True Freshman QB, and award the title that way.

C'mon... someone tell me how many games Texas would have lost this year without McCoy, and let's end this night early.

[SP1!]

why don't teams like boise or tcu deserve a payday? just keep giving money to teams like florida, alabama, texas, etc.

Oh trust me, I would love for UGA to play in that conference they would be conference champions almost every year and get a nice payday.

Until they quit playing shit teams like nevada/fresno st in conference(the same kind of teams the SEC gets ridiculed for playing) they wont be taken seriously.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I also think that teams in the major conferences dont want to play teams like Boise and TCU because if they lose a early non-conference game, bye bye national championship.

[weekapaugjz]

Oh trust me, I would love for UGA to play in that conference they would be conference champions almost every year and get a nice payday.

Until they quit playing shit teams like nevada/fresno st in conference(the same kind of teams the SEC gets ridiculed for playing) they wont be taken seriously.

they aren't getting a payday just because they are winning their conference. yes, playing in a weak conference helps them get a better record easier, but how many more top teams does boise state have to knock off to be taken seriously by some people?

[disneyspy]

they aren't getting a payday just because they are winning their conference. yes, playing in a weak conference helps them get a better record easier, but how many more top teams does boise state have to knock off to be taken seriously by some people?

if boise played in the big10 they'd have a worse record than michigan,hell notre dame would beat their ass

[weekapaugjz]

if boise played in the big10 they'd have a worse record than michigan,hell notre dame would beat their ass

i call bullshit on both of those statements.

[disneyspy]

i call bullshit on both of those statements.

call it what you want but because i posted it,its a fact


jack

[epo]

they aren't getting a payday just because they are winning their conference. yes, playing in a weak conference helps them get a better record easier, but how many more top teams does boise state have to knock off to be taken seriously by some people?

Who did Boise State beat this year?

[ihaveabadmonkey]

didn't notre dame lose to the coast guard this year?

[ihaveabadmonkey]

Who did Boise State beat this year?

Oregon and got punched in the face for it.

[weekapaugjz]

Who did Boise State beat this year?

the pac 10 champs and a BCS invite team.

[ozzie]

if boise played in the big10 they'd have a worse record than michigan,hell notre dame would beat their ass

Yes, Notre Dame and Michigan were both better than Oregon and TCU this year.

We get it. Boise Sucks.

[SP1!]

I also think that teams in the major conferences dont want to play teams like Boise and TCU because if they lose a early non-conference game, bye bye national championship.
Early loss doesnt mean shit but why should they have to play them? Just to make them happy? They shouldnt have joined a shit conference.

they aren't getting a payday just because they are winning their conference. yes, playing in a weak conference helps them get a better record easier, but how many more top teams does boise state have to knock off to be taken seriously by some people?
Lets see, they played exactly one decent team last year and one average team with a good defense, other than that they didnt do much.

A nasty blueprint has been put out, A) Join shit conference B) Recruit thugs that couldnt make the grade at other programs C) Win shit conference title easily D) Get invited to BCS game for big payday after whining and getting their senator to bitch in public E) HUGE payday for a team that doesnt really deserve it.

[ozzie]

Who did Boise State beat this year?

The fact that you even asked this question tells me I'm wasting my buzz discussing this.

[SP1!]

a weak pac 10 champ and a BCS invite team.
Dont act like that was a great team they beat the first week

[SP1!]

God saban is such an asshole

[epo]

God saban is such an asshole

He is a giant asshole, but to rebuild this program this fast is impressive.

[epo]

The McCoy, Bradford, Tebow threesome is going to be so hideous at the next level.

[Snoogans]

The McCoy, Bradford, Tebow threesome is going to be so hideous at the next level.

yea they will all be wishing they were Dan LeFevour

[weekapaugjz]

Early loss doesnt mean shit but why should they have to play them? Just to make them happy? They shouldnt have joined a shit conference.


Lets see, they played exactly one decent team last year and one average team with a good defense, other than that they didnt do much.

A nasty blueprint has been put out, A) Join shit conference B) Recruit thugs that couldnt make the grade at other programs C) Win shit conference title easily D) Get invited to BCS game for big payday after whining and getting their senator to bitch in public E) HUGE payday for a team that doesnt really deserve it.

there are a lot of teams who win shit conferences that don't get BCS invites.

Dont act like that was a great team they beat the first week

i'm not acting like they were a great team. oregon won their conference and a top conference at that.

boise beat the teams they went up against, and have done it consistently over the last few years.

[ihaveabadmonkey]

LeFevour > Flacco

[keithy_19]

The McCoy, Bradford, Tebow threesome is going to be so hideous at the next level.

But McCoy seems like a class act.

[SP1!]

He is a giant asshole, but to rebuild this program this fast is impressive.

Well its bama and they werent that bad when he got there mike shula got fired for auburn beating him all the time, that is enough to be fired in a bama fans mind. They were 10-2 a couple of years before he got there so its not like they were completely shitty.

[ozzie]

In case you couldn't make out the lyrics to what the Bammernation was serendating the Texas team and fans with after the game...

"Hey, Longhorns... Hey, Longhorns... WE JUST BEAT THE HELL OUT OF YOU! Rammer Jammer Yellow-hammer, give 'em hell Alabama!"...

...classy, as always.

[Suspect Chin]

College football sucks. I don't know why I fall for this shit every year.

[joeyballsack]

Just switch to a playoff with the top 12 teams in the country and let it be decided on the field so we can stop having these stupid debates over which undefeated team is better.

[SP1!]

there are a lot of teams who win shit conferences that don't get BCS invites.
Yes there are, I guess their senator doesnt have the pull that orin hatch has, sucks for them.

i'm not acting like they were a great team. oregon won their conference and a top conference at that.

boise beat the teams they went up against, and have done it consistently over the last few years.
Yes and GT also wont their shit conference, I have said that the SEC has been down all year but the pac 10 was even further down and the ACC just sucked but lets not even remotely think that BSU was that great.

[SP1!]

In case you couldn't make out the lyrics to what the Bammernation was serendating the Texas team and fans with after the game...

"Hey, Longhorns... Hey, Longhorns... WE JUST BEAT THE HELL OUT OF YOU! Rammer Jammer Yellow-hammer, give 'em hell Alabama!"...

...classy, as always.

Just like saban running up the score at the end, he fits right in with those scumbags.

[weekapaugjz]

Yes there are, I guess their senator doesnt have the pull that orin hatch has, sucks for them.


Yes and GT also wont their shit conference, I have said that the SEC has been down all year but the pac 10 was even further down and the ACC just sucked but lets not even remotely think that BSU was that great.

so the pac 10 sucks, the acc sucks, the big ten sucks, the big east sucks...

so the national champion has to be a team out of the sec or big 12.

[SP1!]

so the pac 10 sucks, the acc sucks, the big ten sucks, the big east sucks...

so the national champion has to be a team out of the sec or big 12.

No the ACC and big east sucks most years, the big 10 has been down a few years and the pac 10 is down the past 2 years, the big 12 has what 2 decent teams and one coming back? The sec was down as well this year but you choose to ignore that I made that statement

[Suspect Chin]

Cripple McCoy was such a bitch at the end. Who ever heard of a dead arm? I think he just got scared.

[ozzie]

Well its bama and they werent that bad when he got there mike shula got fired for auburn beating him all the time, that is enough to be fired in a bama fans mind. They were 10-2 a couple of years before he got there so its not like they were completely shitty.

Exactly. Bama was in a "perfect storm" situation in Saban's last two recruiting classes. He was able to offer immediate playing time to guys like Rolando McClain, Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, etc... guys who made an immediate impact the last two years.... but if you look at the depth chart, most of their starters and impact players were redshirt-Juniors and Seniors that were already there under Shula.

[weekapaugjz]

No the ACC and big east sucks most years, the big 10 has been down a few years and the pac 10 is down the past 2 years, the big 12 has what 2 decent teams and one coming back? The sec was down as well this year but you choose to ignore that I made that statement

so if all the major conferences are down, would that mean some of the mid majors are coming up?

[ozzie]

Updated...

None of the conferences have really dominated this year:

CONF__ WIN LOSS % _____ BCS
SEC_____ - 6 - 4 - 60.00% __ 2 - 0
MWC____ - 4 - 1 - 80.00% __ 0 - 1
BIG EAST_ - 4 - 2 - 66.67% __ 0 - 1
BIG 10___ - 4 - 3 - 57.14% __ 2 - 0
BIG 12___ - 4 - 4 - 50.00% __ 0 - 1
ACC_____ - 3 - 4 - 42.86% __ 0 - 1
WAC____ - 2 - 2 - 50.00% __ 1 - 0
C-USA___ - 2 - 4 - 33.33% __ 0 - 0
PAC 10___ - 2 - 5 - 28.57% __ 0 - 1
SUNBELT_ - 1 - 1 - 50.00% __ 0 - 0
MAC___ -- 1 - 4 - 20.00% ___ 0 - 0
IND_____ - 1 - 0 - 100.00% _ 0 - 0

[ozzie]

Nope. I promised that I wouldn't ruin bowl season for anyone this year by mentioning the "P" word.

Maybe tomorrow.

I honored my committment... now let me just say...

PLAYOFF, NOW!!!

[SP1!]

so if all the major conferences are down, would that mean some of the mid majors are coming up?

No, they are in the same shitty position they have always been in and they are content to stay there

[weekapaugjz]

No, they are in the same shitty position they have always been in and they are content to stay there

so where is all the talent if every conference is down?

[razorboy]

That game was pretty fun to watch. Especially when the Mexi-German hayseeds started getting spanked.

[SP1!]

so where is all the talent if every conference is down?

The NFL


And ozzie, why are all the auburn fans so excited about cam newton? They were the same fans ragging on florida for getting criminals and they just welcomed one onto their team.

[razorboy]

And ozzie, why are all the auburn fans so excited about cam newton? They were the same fans ragging on florida for getting criminals and they just welcomed one onto their team.

You act like it isn't something that every recruiter at every BCS school doesn't do with a big shit-eating grin on their face.

[Bama]

YES!

THE GOOD GUYS WON!

I'm really enjoying the bitterness from all my barnhorn and volhorn friends. Looking forward to having the entire nation hate on my team for the next few years.

Rammer jammer
RTR

[razorboy]

YES!

THE GOOD GUYS WON!

I'm sure the players from both teams are enjoying their booster "stipends". Good guys, bad guys, paid guys.


Meh. They're all bullshit amateurs.

[ozzie]

The NFL


And ozzie, why are all the auburn fans so excited about cam newton? They were the same fans ragging on florida for getting criminals and they just welcomed one onto their team.

I think the overall feeling is that he was a kid who made a mistake, took his punishment, and they're ready to believe it won't happen again.

But, yeah, it would be a huge embarrassment if he were to do something stupid again.

[ozzie]

YES!

THE GOOD GUYS WON!

I'm really enjoying the bitterness from all my barnhorn and volhorn friends. Looking forward to having the entire nation hate on my team for the next few years.

Rammer jammer
RTR

Enjoy your tainted mythical championship.

*

[SP1!]

You act like it isn't something that every recruiter at every BCS school doesn't do with a big shit-eating grin on their face.

Not every team is recruiting criminals and a few even suspend them or kick them off the teams.

YES!

THE GOOD GUYS WON!

I'm really enjoying the bitterness from all my barnhorn and volhorn friends. Looking forward to having the entire nation hate on my team for the next few years.
No a douchey coach won that has to run up the score like a little bitch because they didnt win as big as he thought they should have. He should have showed class and taken a knee like a man, now the entire CFB system will be gunning for him for his douchey act.

I heard that mack brown refused to shake his hand after the game for running up the score, I need video of that dammit!

[A.J.]

YES!

THE GOOD GUYS WON!

I'm really enjoying the bitterness from all my barnhorn and volhorn friends. Looking forward to having the entire nation hate on my team for the next few years.

Rammer jammer
RTR

I was wondering when you were going to show up.

[SP1!]

I was wondering when you were going to show up.

Like most bama fans, he only comes out once victory is secured