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The Happening
07-04-2009, 04:27 AM
Fans of baseball are going to have to come to terms with the fact that from the mid to late 80's through the early 00's most players used PED's. Shit, many still do since HGH is hard to test for. But im tired of the players who get caught using PED's being treated like kid-touchers! Everyone wants to see these guys gravel and apologize to no end. And for what? This is a direct result of "the everage Joe" wanting to see the mighty fall(as long as it's not someone from their team). It gets very old. And please, enough with the "what will the kids think" bull shit. If "the kids" are following the lead of baseball players, then they have some really fucked up parents!

Should players from "The Steroid Era" be compared to players from other era's differently? Yes. Just like players from all era's need to be judged in the context of the times in which they played. From the dead ball era, to the times when parks were bigger, to when the mound was raised, and when travel was tougher, to when only whites played, up until now "the steroid era". The times define baseball players just as much as their individual skills do.

Should players who used PED's be allowed into the baseball HOF? Yes. We need to stop treating these guys like diseased assholes, and see them for what they really were. They were guys who did whatever it took to become better at their jobs, and in some cases simply did it to keep their jobs. That's something we all would do. I mean these guys weren't fuckn selling secrets to Bin Laden. They were just trying to become better baseball players!

Besides, were's the line of acceptable cheating start and end? Cheating and baseball/sports go hand in hand. From Willie Mays using uppers to get an energy boost for games. Craig Nettles hitting with super balls in his bat. Players stealing signs from the opposing teams catcher, and relaying it to their teammates. And every pitcher from the past spitting on/scuffing the baseball before he throws a pitch, or every hitter using a ton of pine tar/corking his bat before he hits. It's all cheating!

PED's are just another spoke in the wheel of baseball. Their isn't one player in baseball who would suprise me as a PED user. That's just how it is. In the end these guys still have to throw the ball past guys trying to hit it, and hit a ball against guys trying to throw it past them. Which is still the toughest thing to do in all of sports!

Foster
07-04-2009, 04:45 AM
what's your stance on players with cybernetic limbs?

sailor
07-04-2009, 04:52 AM
don't forget, mojo thinks henry aaron was juiced.

instrument
07-04-2009, 05:01 AM
i can't wait to hear what that jhalne thinks about this.

someone alert me when he posts.

TheMojoPin
07-04-2009, 07:35 AM
don't forget, mojo thinks henry aaron was juiced.

Damn right.

sailor
07-04-2009, 11:26 AM
Damn right.

not that i disagree, mind you.




but maybe i should, just on principle.

Snoogans
07-04-2009, 11:32 AM
don't forget, mojo thinks henry aaron was juiced.

cause he fuckin was. You dont jump like that that old ON A TEAM FULL OF ROID USERS and have no questions.


HENRY AARON DID ROIDS


And good. We watch to be entertained. Thats more entertaining. TAKE MORE ROIDS

A.J.
07-04-2009, 11:37 AM
And good. We watch to be entertained. Thats more entertaining. TAKE MORE ROIDS

"Living a lie!"

http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/v/H/sp803_Up_The_Down_Steroid.jpg

One of my favorite Southpark scenes:

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Snoogans
07-04-2009, 11:43 AM
"Living a lie!"

http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/v/H/sp803_Up_The_Down_Steroid.jpg

you tellin me you are upset that ortiz just got back on them?

A.J.
07-04-2009, 11:50 AM
you tellin me you are upset that ortiz just got back on them?

It was a wrist injury dammit!

Snoogans
07-04-2009, 11:50 AM
It was a wrist injury dammit!

does it matter? He is hittin again. THATS what matters. TAKE MORE ROIDS