Lost: The Final Season - Destiny Found

[Furtherman]

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June 30, 2009
Final 'Lost' season gains an hour

We all know that on ABC's "Lost," time is extremely relative.

So why not throw an extra hour into the mix?

The sixth and final season will run 18 hours, an hour longer than originally announced. This isn't exactly earth-shattering news, granted, but for "Lost" fans heading into the final lap, every minute counts.

Though the reason for the extra time hasn't been confirmed, one insider said that the producers felt they had some extra story to tell in the final season. "Lost" starts shooting later this summer.

[JerseyRich]

I miss Walt.

[Dr.Girlfriend]

I am so sad it's ending but this has been the most enjoyable and confusing show I've ever watched. I really need to rewatch all the seasons leading up to the premeire. When does it start, January 2010?

[IamFogHat]

I'm all giddy now. Can't fucking wait.
BTW there are some good Lost rewatch podcasts out there going on over the break, where regular Lost podcasts are going back and watching the DVDs from the beginning and talking about the episodes with the perspective of having seen through season 5. The best ones so far are the Black Rock Podcast and the Lost Initiative. In case anyone needed Lost content to hold them over during the long break.

[PD]

foghat summarized it.

I can't wait.
Maybe I'll break out the dvds and watch old eps.

[K.C.]

Two things I noticed after watching the pilot episodes last night:

1) Jack's character is basically established on a lie. He tells Kate the story of his first surgery and leaves the impression that he just knew he had to find the courage and fortitude to deal with the situation.

Well, as we found out this last season, during Jack's first surgery, he was basically in a blind panic until Christian more or less called him out and told him if he didn't compose himself and finish the surgery, he'd have to do it for him (and it was Christian who told him to count to five).

It's really a microcosm of what the character was during the first four seasons. A guy who NEEDED to present this courageous, heroic exterior on the because he never believed himself, and was terrified of finding out he's not what he always believed he was.

That dichotomy reaches critical mass when he loses Kate after they leave the island, and it basically pushes him to strip away those layers and become what he's become in Season 5.

So the character arc is really interesting. He maintains that duality of heroic and terrified during the first four seasons, loses it in Season 5, and I imagine, now that he's been stripped away to his most honest representation of who he is, will find his purpose and what will gives him that confidence and heals that hole that's always been there in Season 6.


2) Locke's explanation of Backgammon to Walt really tells the entire story of Jacob vs. Smokey. Funny how that's always been there from the very beginning.

[Kublakhan61]

I hope the finale involves Jack finally becoming a likable character.
(I've only seen Season 1 thus far, but I might stop because I dislike his character that much).

[PD]

2) Locke's explanation of Backgammon to Walt really tells the entire story of Jacob vs. Smokey. Funny how that's always been there from the very beginning.
one thing I love about this show is the continuity. seeds planted early bear fruit in later seasons.

[K.C.]

I hope the finale involves Jack finally becoming a likable character.
(I've only seen Season 1 thus far, but I might stop because I dislike his character that much).

I liked him a lot in Season 1 and Season 2. I dig the messiah complex angle.

I liked him at the beginning of Season 3...towards the end of that Season is where he turns (I won't spoil it, although you really shouldn't read the thread if you haven't made it far enough), and he's incredibly annoying in Season 4.

Love the character last season, though.

[Doogie]

I miss Walt.

Walt can buy beer now and vote. Dont worry about him.

The only other kid I saw age faster on a series was "Dukie" from the 4th season of the Wire...

[instrument]

Jacob vs "smokey" wonder if they'll tie it into those two stones found on adam and eve (or maybe adam and eve were just rose and her hubby).

[K.C.]

Jacob vs "smokey" wonder if they'll tie it into those two stones found on adam and eve (or maybe adam and eve were just rose and her hubby).

The common belief is still that it's Rose and Bernard, but that doesn't make much sense to me, the more I think about it.

For one thing, the bodies were said to be way older than the 70s, and someone would have had to lay them to rest.

I tend to think they're either from the Black Rock era (maybe Richard's parents?) or maybe they relate to the origin of Jacob and/or the monster.

I think they're going to end up being characters we haven't seen to this point in the show.


A more crazy theory is that one of them is Walt, who comes back to the island in the future, then travels to the past and dies, thus explaining why he suddenly started appearing all over the island in various forms (and at various ages -- the Monster was using his corpse which had long been dead).

[mikeyboy]

Jacob vs "smokey" wonder if they'll tie it into those two stones found on adam and eve (or maybe adam and eve were just rose and her hubby).

This is the kind of thing I most likely missed or forgot from going through the whole series so quickly. Who are Adam and Eve and what stones are you talking about?

[TooLowBrow]

This is the kind of thing I most likely missed or forgot from going through the whole series so quickly. Who are Adam and Eve and what stones are you talking about?

the losties found 2 skeletons hugging in a cave and nicknamed them adam and eve. i think the stones were found in a pouch on the bodies. ones white, ones black. the stones. i dont know what color the skeletons were

[PD]

This is the kind of thing I most likely missed or forgot from going through the whole series so quickly. Who are Adam and Eve and what stones are you talking about?

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Adam_and_Eve

I remembered Adam and Eve, but I forgot about the rocks.

[PD]

all of the references of Black and White on lost:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Black_and_white

[mikeyboy]

all of the references of Black and White on lost:

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Black_and_white

Dammit. I can see that site consuming far too much of my time.

[PD]

The common belief is still that it's Rose and Bernard, but that doesn't make much sense to me, the more I think about it.

For one thing, the bodies were said to be way older than the 70s, and someone would have had to lay them to rest.

I tend to think they're either from the Black Rock era (maybe Richard's parents?) or maybe they relate to the origin of Jacob and/or the monster.

I think they're going to end up being characters we haven't seen to this point in the show.


A more crazy theory is that one of them is Walt, who comes back to the island in the future, then travels to the past and dies, thus explaining why he suddenly started appearing all over the island in various forms (and at various ages -- the Monster was using his corpse which had long been dead).

From EW interview for season 3
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html
What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?
CUSE: The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in [the Feb. 7 episode], one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season.
LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living — or, I guess, slowly decomposing — proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, ''That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this.''

The name of the company that was recruiting Juliet was Mittelos. That’s an anagram of “Lost time”. that seems to be what the anagram was.

[TooLowBrow]

i think, whoever it is, its gonna be that 2 people had to stay back in the past (not the 70's, further in the past) to insure that the other losties survive

theyll have to give up their future for everyone else, but at least theyll get to grow old together... and alone :(

[mikeyboy]

It would be kind of fucked up if it turned out in some way that Adam & Eve were Nikki & Paulo.

[hammersavage]

It would be kind of fucked up if it turned out in some way that Adam & Eve were Nikki & Paulo.

Even more fucked up if it was Gail and Paulo

[cougarjake13]

i know nothing about this show


cept for some plane crash and they make it to an island

[IamFogHat]

i know nothing about this show


cept for some plane crash and they make it to an island

Spoiler alert.:wink:

[cougarjake13]

Spoiler alert.:wink:

from season one , episode one ??


if you want ill put spoiler tags but i think even non watchers know the plane crashed and they made it to an island

[IamFogHat]

from season one , episode one ??


if you want ill put spoiler tags but i think even non watchers know the plane crashed and they made it to an island
Um, reiterate :wink:

[samechick]

Dammit. I can see that site consuming far too much of my time.

I love that site. Their wiki is awesome and their forums are pretty entertaining sometimes too.

[ChrisTheCop]

I can't remember where I heard them say it, but during one of their many interviews,
either Carlton, Cuse, or Abrams has said that the key to the whole series can be found in the pilot, and when all is said and done, you'll watch the pilot and say, "Wow. It was there all along".

[Furtherman]

I can't remember where I heard them say it, but during one of their many interviews,
either Carlton, Cuse, or Abrams has said that the key to the whole series can be found in the pilot, and when all is said and done, you'll watch the pilot and say, "Wow. It was there all along".

I got it!

They were all sucked into that engine and the series has been the moments before they're ripped to pieces. Time is relative. Much like the event horizon of a black hole.

[K.C.]

My favorite fan trailer for next season, so far:

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[IamFogHat]

My favorite fan trailer for next season, so far:

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Got another source for that budday? This one doesn't exist anymore. I love watching those dumb things.

[K.C.]

Got another source for that budday? This one doesn't exist anymore. I love watching those dumb things.

Shows up fine in my browser, but here's the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TmCiC7QJiU

[Coach_Mac]

I've decided I'm not going to watch this season, I'm just gonna let K.C. break down every episode for me. He does such a good job.

Ok, I can't even joke about not watching Lost. After watching that trailer, I got wood.

[K.C.]

I've decided I'm not going to watch this season, I'm just gonna let K.C. break down every episode for me. He does such a good job.

Ok, I can't even joke about not watching Lost. After watching that trailer, I got wood.

The funny thing is I was so sure I would hate this show when
it originally came debuted.

[K.C.]

Just finished The Walkabout epiosde on my rewatch. A few points of interest.

1) They laid the ground work for the tail section storyline in this episode.

2) Locke really paid 89.95 an hour to talk to a phone sex operator??

3) Locke encounters the monster for the first time in this episode. Now, we know the monster seems to scan people before judging them. So I'm led to believe that it scans Locke here, during this first encounter (which fits, because the next
time he encounters it at the end of Season 1, it tries to pull him into that hole in the ground).

My whole point is that I think it sets up a strong case for the Monster being Locke in Season 5 and via proximity, the mystery man with Jacob being the Monster.

The monster, throughout the series seems to replicate those that it scans or images from the mind of those that it scans. If the monster scans Locke in Season 1, it can replicate Locke. And we already know the mystery man is the Zombie Locke from the end of Season 5 so 1+1=2

[TooLowBrow]

Just finished The Walkabout epiosde on my rewatch. A few points of interest.

1) They laid the ground work for the tail section storyline in this episode.

2) Locke really paid 89.95 an hour to talk to a phone sex operator??

3) Locke encounters the monster for the first time in this episode. Now, we know the monster seems to scan people before judging them. So I'm led to believe that it scans Locke here, during this first encounter (which fits, because the next
time he encounters it at the end of Season 1, it tries to pull him into that hole in the ground).

My whole point is that I think it sets up a strong case for the Monster being Locke in Season 5 and via proximity, the mystery man with Jacob being the Monster.

The monster, throughout the series seems to replicate those that it scans or images from the mind of those that it scans. If the monster scans Locke in Season 1, it can replicate Locke. And we already know the mystery man is the Zombie Locke from the end of Season 5 so 1+1=2

it scans him, but its my theory that it can only appear as these people if they are dead. so it wasnt able to appear as locke till ben killed him (and maybe aslo until the body was returned to the island).

[K.C.]

it scans him, but its my theory that it can only appear as these people if they are dead. so it wasnt able to appear as locke till ben killed him (and maybe aslo until the body was returned to the island).

Possibly true, but you could also argue that it didn't appear as him sooner, because it wasn't going to play the Locke card until it was in the proper position, which was:

-Locke is the leader of the Others, thus entitled to access to Jacob
-Locke's presence on the island could not be questioned or challenged by anyone.

[instrument]

If it can only appear as the dead then who was walt?

Your theory is full o fail.

Unless future walt is dead on the island.......but future walt wouldve appeared as an older smokester.

[TooLowBrow]

Possibly true, but you could also argue that it didn't appear as him sooner, because it wasn't going to play the Locke card until it was in the proper position, which was:

-Locke is the leader of the Others, thus entitled to access to Jacob
-Locke's presence on the island could not be questioned or challenged by anyone.

that fits, but has the monster ever shown up as a living person? it was christian, eko, alex... maybe claire, but she might be dead... anyone else?





i keep watching christian telling locke to leave the island as the smoke monster setting locke up for failure

[TooLowBrow]

If it can only appear as the dead then who was walt?

Your theory is full o fail.

Unless future walt is dead on the island.......but future walt wouldve appeared as an older smokester.

i think because walt is special, he is able to appear places too

[Devo37]

i just watched the first couple of episodes on Hulu (never watched any of it before). is it worth getting into it this late in the game or will i just get frustrated with crazy plot twists and hatches and Others and all manner or lunacy that r&f have talked about?

[mikeyboy]

i just watched the first couple of episodes on Hulu (never watched any of it before). is it worth getting into it this late in the game or will i just get frustrated with crazy plot twists and hatches and Others and all manner or lunacy that r&f have talked about?



Go for it. I was where you are 4 month ago and watched the whole series and really dug it. You have until 2010 to get caught up too.

[Furtherman]

My favorite fan trailer for next season, so far:

Damn that gave me chills.

[CountryBob]

Any possibility that Adam and Eve could be Adam and Eve?

[instrument]

walt is special because he grew four feet and the writers could no longer use him...

and apparently his "specialness" has something to do with controlling birds...cause that's as far as they ever went with him.

and apparently homey loves pizza rolls...or was it sunny d?


ALSO on the black and white thing don't forget the dream in which locke had a black and a white eye..

[Stuft]

ALSO on the black and white thing don't forget the dream in which locke had a black and a white eye..

What's this? I never noticed this before, nor read about it, and i've been watching since the beginning.

[K.C.]

What's this? I never noticed this before, nor read about it, and i've been watching since the beginning.

During the Claire episode in Season 1, she has a dream in which Locke is sitting at a table playing with tarot cards and he tells her that it was her responsibility to raise 'him' (Aaron), but she gave him away and "now everyone pays the price."

He looks up and one eye is white and the other is black.

Then she hears a baby crying, runs into the jungle and finds a crib with small Oceanic planes hanging over it. She digs through the blankets in the crib and finds blood, then see the blood on her hands, and wakes up.


It's one of those things that if you go back to it, it looks so much more important a scene now, than when it first aired.

The light and dark eyes probably symbolize Locke ending up as an agent of both (both Jacob and the Monster utilize him for a purpose).

Everyone paying the price over Aaron...absolutely no idea. Three possibilities:

1) It's actually referring to something terrible that would have happened had she given him away, thus by keeping him, her and his existence in the equation prevents some great catastrophe.
2) It could be referring to her attempting to give him away by flying to Los Angeles, thus ending up on the island, thus becoming part of Christian and the Monster later in the series (perhaps explaining the blood on her hands metaphor).
3) It could be referring to Kate taking Aaron, returning to the island because of Aaron, and helping Jack detonate Jughead, thus creating some great catastrophe by allowing someone other than her to raise him.

While the last two are more interesting, I ultimately think the first one is the explanation.

[instrument]

I always thought that daniels mom and abaddon were set up as another extension of the light/dark theme.

Then abaddon got his head blownthefuckoff so he doesn't appear as important as he once did...unless he somehow survives ajnd pops up next season.

I'm still wondering how the new group will fit in...seeing they're walking through the jungle with locke's body.....

[K.C.]

By the way, I'll say that I think the first scene of Season 6 will be a lot like this, only with slight alterations (and a different ending).

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[ChrisTheCop]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/07/06/brian-k-vaughan-leaves-lost-writing-staff/

I'm sure theyll get by, but BKV eps have been some of the best eps in recent seasons.

This ranks right up there with JJ Abrams' departure.

[Aggie]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/07/06/brian-k-vaughan-leaves-lost-writing-staff/

I'm sure theyll get by, but BKV eps have been some of the best eps in recent seasons.

This ranks right up there with JJ Abrams' departure.

:thumbdown: Booooooooooooooooo

[IamFogHat]

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/07/06/brian-k-vaughan-leaves-lost-writing-staff/

I'm sure theyll get by, but BKV eps have been some of the best eps in recent seasons.

This ranks right up there with JJ Abrams' departure.

Why would you leave with one more season left?

[Furtherman]

Why would you leave with one more season left?

He must have gotten a better offer or has a personal project. I don't think the show will suffer though, as his work laid enough foundation to carry into the last season.

[Doctor Manhattan]

Just finished The Walkabout epiosde on my rewatch. A few points of interest.

1) They laid the ground work for the tail section storyline in this episode.

Do you mean Rose saying that Bernard is still alive? or is there something else in that episode?

[instrument]

woops nm

[TheGameHHH]

why cant i watch season 5 on ABC.com? it starts at episode 12, where are the first 11 episodes?

[Furtherman]

If the one thing that you feel lets ABC's Lost down is its lack of a "slammin'" theme song, then the producers are about to give you a chance to put your money where your mouth is, by providing one.

The show's producers are holding a contest for fans to provide their own ideal theme music for the show, with the winner to be unveiled in a surprisingly public place:

For this year's Comic-Con panel, our theme is about giving back to YOU...the fans!!! It is because of you that we are celebrating our 5th year at Comic-Con, and we would love to incorporate your astounding creativity. We'd like to feature YOUR ideal version of what you think a LOST title song would be (if the show had one). Over the years, we've been witness to your incredibly innovative pieces on LOST, and would love to hear your fetchy melody for LOST which you were waiting to share!

Here are some fan made ones...I hadn't seen these before on youtube... they're pretty damn funny!

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[K.C.]

Someone needs to do a Hurley & Sawyer opening to this for the contest:

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[IamFogHat]

He must have gotten a better offer or has a personal project. I don't think the show will suffer though, as his work laid enough foundation to carry into the last season.

I suppose. I guess I'm just coming at it with the mindset of a Lost fan. Like if I was a millionaire creative guy, I'd stick it out for one more year and then work on my personal project. Unless the money for whatever he's doing is unturndownable. Which frankly I doubt. But whatever, yeah I think it'll be great without him but I will miss his presence.

[K.C.]

I suppose. I guess I'm just coming at it with the mindset of a Lost fan. Like if I was a millionaire creative guy, I'd stick it out for one more year and then work on my personal project. Unless the money for whatever he's doing is unturndownable. Which frankly I doubt. But whatever, yeah I think it'll be great without him but I will miss his presence.

Maybe a little, but I don't think he'll be missed much.

My guess is that Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindeloff will have an overwhelming presence in every episode this season and that's part of the reason why they could afford to let him go.

I think they'll end up writing A LOT of it, even in the episodes they don't have primary writing credits.

[TooLowBrow]

I suppose. I guess I'm just coming at it with the mindset of a Lost fan. Like if I was a millionaire creative guy, I'd stick it out for one more year and then work on my personal project. Unless the money for whatever he's doing is unturndownable. Which frankly I doubt. But whatever, yeah I think it'll be great without him but I will miss his presence.

i think bkv only writes maybe 3 episodes a season. i usually like those the best but if i was him id want to do something i had more input on

[IamFogHat]

Maybe a little, but I don't think he'll be missed much.

My guess is that Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindeloff will have an overwhelming presence in every episode this season and that's part of the reason why they could afford to let him go.

I think they'll end up writing A LOT of it, even in the episodes they don't have primary writing credits.

Oh I totally agree with that. As much as I love making fun of Carlton Cuse, him and Damon's episodes are always fucking awesome.

[PD]

I like the pic for the Lost Facebook group.

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object3/1714/125/n30566281895_4379.jpg

[CHUCKWAGONCOOK]

Farting around on Youtube I found this.

Who's the image in the mirror when Jack goes in the bathroom? And who's the lady on the floor? And where the hell is he?

OMG!!

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[TheGameHHH]

about 2 minutes ago I finally finished the last episode of season 5. this show is awesome, i cant wait till january

[Furtherman]

http://lostuniversity.org/lostu/images/news/large/news_photo_logo.jpg

Lost University is now accepting applicants! (http://lostuniversity.org/index.php)



And yes, I just orderd my LU baseball cap.

[CountryBob]

Farting around on Youtube I found this.

Who's the image in the mirror when Jack goes in the bathroom? And who's the lady on the floor? And where the hell is he?

OMG!!

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Yeah - WTF? i dont remember this from the past episodes. Is this from Season 6?

[instrument]

That looks like footage from the tv show he was in called haunted..........

[mikeyboy]

Just saw an ad for this in a magazine:

Mysteries of the Universe: The Dharma Initiative (http://abc.com/lostmysteries)

Episode 1 - 07/23/09
Episode 2 - 08/04/09
Episode 3 - 09/08/09
Episode 4 - 10/15/09
Episode 5 - 11/16/09

[K.C.]

Just saw an ad for this in a magazine:

Mysteries of the Universe: The Dharma Initiative (http://abc.com/lostmysteries)

Episode 1 - 07/23/09
Episode 2 - 08/04/09
Episode 3 - 09/08/09
Episode 4 - 10/15/09
Episode 5 - 11/16/09

Very interesting.

Although I'm kind of concerned about the alien references in it...this isn't the first time I've heard aliens in relation to Lost before, as a theory.

And that could be a horrendous ending to the series.

I imagine this thing is the big ComicCon video tease this year, as well.

[mikeyboy]

Very interesting.

Although I'm kind of concerned about the alien references in it...this isn't the first time I've heard aliens in relation to Lost before, as a theory.

And that could be a horrendous ending to the series.

I imagine this thing is the big ComicCon video tease this year, as well.

I took it that it was supposed to be one of those "In Search Of" type series, and they had one episode on the Dharma Initiative, and the Alien reference was just of the types of things the show normally covered.

[ToiletCrusher]

Fuck destiny.

[K.C.]

I took it that it was supposed to be one of those "In Search Of" type series, and they had one episode on the Dharma Initiative, and the Alien reference was just of the types of things the show normally covered.

Agreed, but they usually bury some key points for the upcoming season in these videos (as they did with the Dr. Chang time travel video from last ComicCon).

One thing that really just jumped out at me is the airdates, though.

23 - 4 - 8 - 15 -16.


The 'numbers' are 4-8-15-16-23-42 (which make up the Valenzetti Equation from the Season 2 game, which DHARMA was supposedly analyzing to predict the future of man).


I wonder if it's a subtle clue that the chain has been broken with what happened at the end of last season.

[Goatweed]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/07/25/comic-con-what-we-learned-about-losts-final-season/

Lost has always had a massive presence At Comic Con, but the panels have always been more of performance pieces to celebrate the show’s fandom than deeply revelatory insights into what we can expect from each progressive season. While this was also true of this year’s panel, there were at least a few interesting hints and teases that squeezed through the cracks.

It’s already been revealed that Season 6 of Lost is very much intended to bring things back to the show’s first season, but it’s never really been clear what exactly that means. When asked to elaborate on this, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse were cryptic as always, explaining that they’re “closing the loop”, and that we can expect to see many characters we haven’t seen since Season 1. Does this mean that Jack’s (or rather, Faraday’s) plan from the end of Season 5 worked? It sounds likely, at least to some degree.

Lindelof and Cuse also showed us a series of faux ads and video clips, that while seemingly being played for humor, contained several peculiar inconsistencies of past events on the show that may indicate the timeline has been altered. The first clip was an ad for Oceanic Airlines, with a voiceover that proclaimed the airline had gone 30 years with a perfect safety record. Does this mean the plane didn’t crash? It also claimed that the company was founded in 1979, which is around the time that many of the losties found themselves transported back to. Could this be a clue as well?

The second clip was a Mr. Cluck’s commercial, featuring Hurley detailing his recent trip to Australia as a way to introduce a new “outback” menu item. Does this mean he arrived safely in LA instead of crashing on the island? The third (and most confusing) clip featured Kate on America’s Most Wanted, with the host explaining that her plan to blow up the house with her stepfather inside backfired, and she instead killed a plumber named Ryan Milner by mistake. I’d hypothesize what this means for the show, but that would suggest I have even the slightest idea. Even if Faraday’s plan worked, that should only affect the character’s lives following the flight from Sydney to LA. …unless of course the prevention of the hatch’s development somehow connects to Kate’s life in other ways outside of the flight, which seems unlikely.

If we’ve learned anything from Lost though, it’s that “unlikely” does not mean “impossible”. Maybe things aren’t as black and white as “Did the plan work or not?” According to Damon and Carlton, the final season is a complete change of pace from what we’ve seen in previous seasons. “The time travel season is over, the flashforward season is over. Season 6 is something different.”

They also confirmed that we would be seeing more of Faraday and Juliette, but didn’t say whether or not it would be in flashback form. The Dharma Initiative, meanwhile, will play a much less significant part this time around. It won’t be completely absent though, with the question of where the food drop from Season 1 came from being just one of the many open-ended mysteries that will be expanded upon in the final season.

We will also learn more about Richard Albert’s backstory. He has a flashback in Season 6 that was described as being “very involved”. Apparently, we can expect to see a lot more of him.

These little tidbints were about the extent of the potential show reveals, but given that this is the last year Lost will have a central presence at Comic Con, it should be mentioned that Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have done a wonderful job of essentially making the panel a show in itself. It could really be called an interactive play. At one point, Jorge Garcia (Hurley) appeared during the Q&A as one of the audience participants to ask some pointed questions about where the show was headed. As the conversation grew more heated (and in turn, more comical), Michael Emmerson (Ben) stepped up beside Jorge to complain that only one question per person was allowed. Funny stuff.

Later on, the creators played a retrospective with all the characters that have died on the show, ending with a lengthy sequence of Charlie’s emotional demise. As soon as the light’s went up, Dominic Monaghan was ready and waiting on stage, and the crowd went wild. With that, the panel was over. Nothing was said. No questions were answered. But if the hints that we had been picking up on during the rest of the panel are any indication, this may just mean one of Lost’s best characters will be back in action for the final season. We can only hope.

I wish I was there for this, it sounds like it was a BLAST. Interesting how clues seem to be leaning towards Farraday's plan working, but not.

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If you think about it, if the bomb did work then there wouldve never been an incident, radzinsky wouldve never been "demoted" or whatever happened to leave him going from being a leader to pushing a button. Chan probably didn't leave his family, etc.

One change changes everything
...

January is too far away

[K.C.]

If you think about it, if the bomb did work then there wouldve never been an incident, radzinsky wouldve never been "demoted" or whatever happened to leave him going from being a leader to pushing a button. Chan probably didn't leave his family, etc.

One change changes everything
...

January is too far away

True, but the universe has a way of "course-correcting" as Ms. Hawking said once upon a time.

If the bomb worked, a lot of things will change, but at the end of the day, we already know that the Smoke Monster and Jacob are steering these pieces, and that they want certain people in certain place on the island.

So we may get new stories in regards to some of the characters, but the core players in the chess match could still end up where they need to be.



But I really get the sense that even though they've hinted they weren't going to go this route, that Jack and everyone else is going to wakeup in an alternate timeline, that he and everyone else are going to freely choose to destroy by the end of the season to accept whatever their destinies were suppose to be on the island (for many of them, likely very bleak existences).

[K.C.]

All the videos from ComicCon is up on DarkUFO's site

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2009/07/all-lost-comic-con-videos.html

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I agree, I wouldn't be surprised if jack locke, aaron, echo, or someone who seemed to have a further connection to the island still end up there.

The question for me is what will happen to people on the present timeline if that did happen.

[K.C.]

Just finished watching all the stuff from Comic-Con.

Obviously they didn't say much, but the most informative thing they probably put out there was when they were asked if Season 6 was going to have a lot Season 1 style flashbacks, and they responded by saying that you are going to notice a correlation between Season 6 and Season 1, but that they're going to use yet another completely different story telling mechanism.

That got me thinking...we all have heard the rumors about which old characters might be coming back for the final season...

I'm starting to wonder if the flashes this year are maybe going to be of a reality that would have existed had this whole thing not started.

Damon's a big comic guy...everyone remembers the old "What If..." comics.

The more I think about it, the more I see it as a very logical way to send the series off...interweaving the reality of how the show has to end with the possibility of what could have been for the characters.

I find myself really fond of this idea.

[Furtherman]

I couldn't see those videos KC, but here are some on this site that explain the direction of Season 6. (http://io9.com/5323521/watch-the-videos-that-explain-the-direction-of-lost-season-six)

Also there:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2009/07/504x_lostfinalseason.jpg

A new Lost poster shows almost all the stars who've appeared since season one. In the center is Locke... with his back to the camera.



I'm giddy.

[hammersavage]

http://warmingglow.lg1x8.simplecdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lost-ad-hed.jpg

[PD]

thanks to goatweed for this:

Netflix to stream lost and other shows (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/03/netflix-to-stream-early-seasons-of-lost-and-other-abc-shows/)

In its entirety, the deal will allow Netflix members to instantly watch the first five seasons of the hit ABC franchise Lost, seasons four ....

Many of the episodes, including the first four seasons of Lost, will be available from Netflix beginning August 1. The remainder will be available in subsequent months, beginning in September.

[hammersavage]

season 1 and the final 6 episodes of season 5 are now on hulu. much better than that piece of shit player abc.com has.

[Furtherman]

Nice!

In case there was any doubt, Elizabeth Mitchell has confirmed that she'll be back on Lost this season as Juliet:

Yes, I will actually be back on Lost. I can't say whether I'm dead or not, but as in all things in Lost, it'll be fairly tricky.

[Furtherman]

I saw a red carpet interview with Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, who is in the new GI Joe movie.

When asked if he would come back as Mr. Ecko, he said he would. He appreciates all the love the Mr. Ecko fans have for the character, so he wouldn't mind reprising him to "put a cherry on top" of his story.

I hope the producers were listening!


But I don't think he's on the teaser poster - I was able to find one a little bit better:

http://i28.tinypic.com/33nztwy.jpg

Edit: Found one with names. Anna Lucia - NICE!

http://heathsworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/lost-s6.jpg

[TooLowBrow]

I saw a red carpet interview with Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, who is in the new GI Joe movie.

When asked if he would come back as Mr. Ecko, he said he would. He appreciates all the love the Mr. Ecko fans have for the character, so he wouldn't mind reprising him to "put a cherry on top" of his story.

I hope the producers were listening!


But I don't think he's on the teaser poster - I was able to find one a little bit better:

http://i28.tinypic.com/33nztwy.jpg

Edit: Found one with names. Anna Lucia - NICE!

http://heathsworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/lost-s6.jpg
eko is named... between desmond and kate.

where lapidus?

[ChrisTheCop]

Eko's on that poster!!!

I figured they could just use older footage of him as needed,
but if he's actually willing to shoot...bring him on!!!

There really was so much more to do with Eko.

[Furtherman]

eko is named... between desmond and kate.

where lapidus?

Hmmm. Good call. Eko might be mislabeled.

[TooLowBrow]

Eko's on that poster!!!

I figured they could just use older footage of him as needed,
but if he's actually willing to shoot...bring him on!!!

There really was so much more to do with Eko.

he was always looking for his bwuddah, who was near the bordah. his bwuddah wanted watah.

the only thing better than his accent was when charlie, claire and desmond got together.
they all had such similar accents and so much of there dialogue was just saying each others names as a question "Charlie?" "Claire?" "Desmond?"

[instrument]

Oh lapidus, the candidate to be jacobs new host, maybe excluded for a reason.................

[Goatweed]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/11/could-greg-grunberg-return-to-lost/

[PD]

http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/11/could-greg-grunberg-return-to-lost/

nice!

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I wonder if everyone who died on the island will end up dying anyway..

[mikeyboy]

I wonder if everyone who died on the island will end up dying anyway..

eventually

[TooLowBrow]

I wonder if everyone who died on the island will end up dying anyway..

live the movie final destination?

[instrument]

Yeah I guess, gotta do something in this thread till the season starts.

[instrument]

Anyone else see echo in that monk commercial? Weird.

[TheGameHHH]

Anybody ever realize that the Sawyer/Kate locked up era is just like the heston/harrison scene in planet of the apes?

[K.C.]

Anybody ever realize that the Sawyer/Kate locked up era is just like the heston/harrison scene in planet of the apes?

Yeah, it was intentionally shot that way (or so they say).

They also said they shot the first part of the Season 3 premiere with Kate to kind of have a Raiders of the Lost Ark vibe, with giving Kate the dress, and Ben channeling that Nazi creep that's the villain in the movie.

[K.C.]

I just want to relive the awesomeness of this:

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[TheGameHHH]

Yeah, it was intentionally shot that way (or so they say).

They also said they shot the first part of the Season 3 premiere with Kate to kind of have a Raiders of the Lost Ark vibe, with giving Kate the dress, and Ben channeling that Nazi creep that's the villain in the movie.

very cool, i had never heard that but i was watching planet of the apes this weekend i saw that scene and it immediately brought me back to Lost. i actually feel somewhat smart for picking that up

[IamFogHat]

I just want to relive the awesomeness of this:

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Why don't those two just get a room already? Talk about sexual tension.

[K.C.]

Another pretty good fan made trailer

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[Furtherman]

Here is a closer look at that alledged teaser poster for the new season. (http://www.scifisquad.com/2009/09/12/lost-final-season-poster-art/)

Pretty much the entire cast is in attendance, with the exception of Walt, Whidmore and Jacob. What that means, exactly, we do not know.
The only character who isn't facing forward is John Locke.

[TooLowBrow]

oceanic 815 went down 5 years ago today

[K.C.]

Great editing together of this clip by whomever did it:

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[K.C.]

Started rewatching again.

I tried to start a month or so ago, but I didn't really have the time.

A lot of this stuff I've probably pointed out before, but who can remember, so I'll point out any observations (new or old) that I come across. I figure it'll take me a couple months.

For the first part of the Pilot:
-The story Jack tells Kate about his first surgery is a lie. He says he just had to deal with the fear. We found out last season that Christian actually shamed him into manning up to deal with his fear during the surgery.

-Smoke Monster appears the first night in the jungle, knocking down the trees.

-Seth Norris, the pilot, is the first kill. It's way more interesting than it initially seemed. Remember, Lapidus was suppose to be flying Oceanic 815. Perhaps something happened in the chess game between Jacob and the Monster where Jacob foresaw Lapidus's death, knew he needed him later and orchestrated him not being on the flight initially. Conversely, maybe the Monster thought it was killing Lapidus when it killed Seth Norris. Whatever the deal, something tells me that Lapidus is an extremely important variable and that him not flying 815
a) wasn't an accident
b) is going to be a huge move in the game between the two entities.

On to more episodes...


EDIT: Oh yeah, the whole scene where Locke smiles at Kate with the orange in his mouth? A possible homage to the Godfather, foreshadowing he's destined to die all the way back in the first episode?? Or just coincidence?

[K.C.]

Finished up through the third episode of Season 1 (Tabula Rasa).

The thing that really strikes me about the episode is the ending montage where you start to see everyone moving in certain directions as the characters start to flush out a little bit...Michael's bonding with his son, Jin's showing a slight change in his relationship with Sun, Charlie's becoming more enamored with Claire, Jack and Kate have started their whole thing, you see some of the internal conflict of Sawyer wanting something more while he retreats into wanting to be hated, and so forth...

And then you see Locke just sitting and observing, as if he's watching all this stuff come together on some other plane of existence.

Now, obviously, Locke always saw the island differently after the crash than the survivors did, and we also know that Locke, while somewhat in tune with what's going on, ultimately ended up a pawn himself.

But you have back to back episodes in which they establish the concept of backgammon through Locke (second part of the Pilot) and then show the pieces starting to move (Tabula Rasa).

Other than using the ending as a transition to the next episode, which is Locke-centric, they really hammer home the idea that he's being established as the first important piece in the game through, which is then brought to light by the next episode, which really starts the story arc about what the island actually is, through what happens to Locke.

[K.C.]

Churned through two more episodes today.

The only thing that really struck me in Walkabout (even though it's one of the best episodes of the entire series), is Locke saying that Norman Croucher was a double amputee who climbed Mt. Everest because it was his destiny.

I Wikipediaed the guy and Locke was actually wrong. He climbed Cho Oyu,

And then it struck me that every time Locke has talked about destiny, he's been wrong. He's wrong about the hatch initially, he's wrong about destroying the hatch computer, he's wrong about the Monster...even in his personal life, he's wrong about thinking it was his destiny to join that commune he lived on, he was wrong about thinking it was destiny that reconnected him to his father.

There was a destiny for Locke, as we've seen the show play out, that's become obvious. But, never at any point has he been anywhere close to right in terms of what it is.


On thing that bothers me about the White Rabbit episode is how Charlie says he doesn't swim and then two seasons later he's swimming to the Looking Glass.

[Furtherman]

KC, awesome analysis. I had no idea. But to be fair about Charlie, he only had to swim down, not across the water. Probably why Desmond saw him drown trying to save Clair.

[TooLowBrow]

KC, awesome analysis. I had no idea. But to be fair about Charlie, he only had to swim down, not across the water. Probably why Desmond saw him drown trying to save Clair.

When Charlie runs to get Jack at the start of the episode, he says that he doesn't swim. However, it is shown later, in the episode "Greatest Hits", that he was taught to swim as a child. Also in Greatest Hits, Charlie claims to have won the title of Junior Swim Champion in Northern England. He also successfully swims out to the Looking Glass station in the season three finale. It is possible that when Charlie told Jack he didn't swim, he didn't mean he could not swim.

[K.C.]

When Charlie runs to get Jack at the start of the episode, he says that he doesn't swim. However, it is shown later, in the episode "Greatest Hits", that he was taught to swim as a child. Also in Greatest Hits, Charlie claims to have won the title of Junior Swim Champion in Northern England. He also successfully swims out to the Looking Glass station in the season three finale. It is possible that when Charlie told Jack he didn't swim, he didn't mean he could not swim.

I think I'm just going to chalk it up to being on a massive heroin high right at the time when that chick started drowning, hence, he didn't swim.

[IamFogHat]

Honestly I think he was just covering up the fact that he was a pussy and didn't want to go out there cause he was afraid and lied to Jack to cover it up knowing that Jack was a leader figure and doctor who wouldn't hesitate to save her.

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i believe that whatevers happened was always meant to happen, and that eloise knows as much, and thats why she had no problem sending daniel back to the island.

her telling desmond how important his job was had nothing to do with the island, but simply with saving her son.

whatta mom.

[K.C.]

i believe that whatevers happened was always meant to happen, and that eloise knows as much, and thats why she had no problem sending daniel back to the island.

her telling desmond how important his job was had nothing to do with the island, but simply with saving her son.

whatta mom.

I think it's more likely that we're going to find out that all of the Hostiles throughout their coming to and existence on the island were being manipulated by the monster claiming it was Jacob or acting on behalf of Jacob.

And in that regard, I'm sure that both Eloise and Widmore were lied to at some point and told that if they follow a certain path, and influence certain people towards certain paths, they can undo their exile from power on the island, and none of what they did will matter, because time will be altered.

In a sense, I think they've always believed they were manipulating time...Eloise was completely on board with the Jughead plan to change the future...

The problem, is that they're all being lied to, just like Locke, being pushed in certain directions to get to the point where the monster could kill Jacob and thus end the game between the two of them.

I do think there's going to be a sense of sacrifice and the finale is going to be pretty depressing. These characters are all heading to some horrible end, or terribly depressing existence (i.e. Desmond pushing the button until the end of his life), in the name of a greater good, and I think this season will be about the characters that come to terms with that (Jack), and characters that fight it kicking and screaming, even aligning themselves with a greater evil to preserve their own existence (Ben).



On another note, I am firmly convinced that part of this season, if not most of it is going to be set up as a 'What if' season...

We've all heard the rumors of long-dead characters making cameos this season...I really think they're going to leave much of the season ambiguous, flashing between what would happen if Jack's plan worked, and what would happen if it didn't, and finally about half-way to three quarters of the way through, confirm that it didn't really work.

They're going to juxtapose somewhat happier, but hollow, existences if the plane didn't crash with horribly depressing realities of what's suppose to happen.

[IamFogHat]

I think it's more likely that we're going to find out that all of the Hostiles throughout their coming to and existence on the island were being manipulated by the monster claiming it was Jacob or acting on behalf of Jacob.

And in that regard, I'm sure that both Eloise and Widmore were lied to at some point and told that if they follow a certain path, and influence certain people towards certain paths, they can undo their exile from power on the island, and none of what they did will matter, because time will be altered.

In a sense, I think they've always believed they were manipulating time...Eloise was completely on board with the Jughead plan to change the future...

The problem, is that they're all being lied to, just like Locke, being pushed in certain directions to get to the point where the monster could kill Jacob and thus end the game between the two of them.

I do think there's going to be a sense of sacrifice and the finale is going to be pretty depressing. These characters are all heading to some horrible end, or terribly depressing existence (i.e. Desmond pushing the button until the end of his life), in the name of a greater good, and I think this season will be about the characters that come to terms with that (Jack), and characters that fight it kicking and screaming, even aligning themselves with a greater evil to preserve their own existence (Ben).



On another note, I am firmly convinced that part of this season, if not most of it is going to be set up as a 'What if' season...

We've all heard the rumors of long-dead characters making cameos this season...I really think they're going to leave much of the season ambiguous, flashing between what would happen if Jack's plan worked, and what would happen if it didn't, and finally about half-way to three quarters of the way through, confirm that it didn't really work.

They're going to juxtapose somewhat happier, but hollow, existences if the plane didn't crash with horribly depressing realities of what's suppose to happen.

I will bite their faces off if they give us three quarters of a season of things that didn't actually happen.

I think it'll be more like this season of House. We all thought it was going to revolve around his mental hospital stay, but that turned out to be just the first episode. Which I would be fine with.

[K.C.]

I will bite their faces off if they give us three quarters of a season of things that didn't actually happen.

I think it'll be more like this season of House. We all thought it was going to revolve around his mental hospital stay, but that turned out to be just the first episode. Which I would be fine with.

I don't think it's going to be three quarters of a season of just stuff that didn't happen.

I think you're going to get flashes of between the present day island where Locke and Ben have currently just killed Jacob, and between a reality in which Flight 815 landed.

I think the people from the 70s (minus Juliet...Miles is questionable...) will flash to that present day from the crash to do whatever they have to do.

I also think that the season's story arc will set up this red herring that they're changing the future, but they have more work to do on the island, and try and convince the audience that the flashes are what will happen after they finish what they're suppose to do this season.

Somewhere near the end, we'll get hit with the reality that it never happened...it's a lost timeline, and what we've been seeing on the island is what's real.

[IamFogHat]

I don't think it's going to be three quarters of a season of just stuff that didn't happen.

I think you're going to get flashes of between the present day island where Locke and Ben have currently just killed Jacob, and between a reality in which Flight 815 landed.

I think the people from the 70s (minus Juliet...Miles is questionable...) will flash to that present day from the crash to do whatever they have to do.

I also think that the season's story arc will set up this red herring that they're changing the future, but they have more work to do on the island, and try and convince the audience that the flashes are what will happen after they finish what they're suppose to do this season.

Somewhere near the end, we'll get hit with the reality that it never happened...it's a lost timeline, and what we've been seeing on the island is what's real.

Oh ok, I like that version a bit more. That makes more sense to me.

Will Jack cry as much though?

[TooLowBrow]

Oh ok, I like that version a bit more. That makes more sense to me.

Will Jack cry as much though?

He'll probably cry more. The island forced him to be a leader. On earth he sucks.

[K.C.]

Oh ok, I like that version a bit more. That makes more sense to me.

Will Jack cry as much though?

100x more than ever before.

But, I imagine he'll get some type of redeeming ending.

[TooLowBrow]

100x more than ever before.

But, I imagine he'll get some type of redeeming ending.

im guessing sawyer sacrifices himself for the group, but jack goes back and saves him


then as the credits scroll, the camera pans back, reveling hurley, in a mental ward, who's been watching the whole thing on tv

he points the remote at the camera and as he hits the power button, the screen goes black.

[TheGameHHH]

I will bite their faces off if they give us three quarters of a season of things that didn't actually happen.

I think it'll be more like this season of House. We all thought it was going to revolve around his mental hospital stay, but that turned out to be just the first episode. Which I would be fine with.

you watch House? gross. why?

[instrument]

Why watch a house? Security detail?

[Furtherman]

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/image-base/TV/L/Lost/posters/lost_tv_poster_final_season_01.jpg

[Furtherman]

It's never easy.

The final season of Lost will bring with it a brand new villain come January: the Winter Olympics. Not only must ABC force us to wait until January to spend those precious final hours with our friends from the island, but Lost's Carlton Cuse has also revealed that the show will take a hiatus during the Olympics after the first few episodes. Painful, I know, but I guess the network doesn't want to compete against the Olympics (ABC isn't even airing any of the games).

There's no word on how long of a break they will take, only that the show will begin airing episodes in January before taking a break and resuming in early March. My hope is that we only have to wait two weeks at most, because if it's longer I fear ABC may have to go up against a nasty fan revolt.

ABC has also not yet announced the official premiere date for season six. C'mon ABC -- January is a long month; give us something, anything. We love countdowns. Give us a countdown!

[via IGN]

[Furtherman]

Hieroglyphics on the Poster for the Final Season of LOST Explained (http://www.collider.com/2009/10/29/hieroglyphics-on-the-poster-for-the-final-season-of-lost-explained/)

Popular Mechanics spoke with Dr. James Allen, Dr. James Allen, Wilbour Professor of Egyptology and Chair of Egyptology and Ancient Western Asian Studies at Brown University. He’s the one who noted that the mysterious four-toed statue revealed at the end of the fifth season was not Anubis as many assumed which is probably why he’s the Wilbour Professor of Egyptology and Chair of Egyptology and Ancient Western Asian Studies at Brown University and we’re not. He noticed that the statue is actually of Taweret, “the half-hippo, half-croc Egyptian goddess who protected mothers and infants.”

When asked about the hieroglyphics on the poster, he said they translated in to “Who is the guide?” or “Who is the leader?” Well that’s vague but interesting.

http://www.collider.com/wp-content/image-base/TV/L/Lost/slices/slice_lost_final_season_tv_poster_01.jpg

[mikeyboy]

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[Dell]

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cannot wait until the next season...I'd watch it in Spanish even...

[JerseyRich]

Everything in its right place.

[opie's twisted balls]

I'm still hoping it ends as the Great Ronny B predicts......

http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-200905/402cb864818c7f5a162cd5d0f0fbe9a4.jpg

[mikeyboy]

I've been re-watching season 1 and simultaneously watching the season 5 episodes that my DVR has been picking up from late night airings. I think, looking back that Season 5 is my favorite. There's a little too much going on at the beginning of the season, and the stuff off the island is so-so, but I really like the time jumping stuff with Faraday and the Dharma Initiative.

I'm really looking forward to season 6.

[Furtherman]

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'Lost' promo that has 'Lost' fans-and even its producer-buzzing (http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/12/01/lost-promo-that-has-lost-fans-and-even-its-producer-buzzing/)

Team Lost is keeping mum and staying dark about the contents of the show’s final season, set to premiere on February 2. The producers have even said they would rather not include any footage from the final slate of episodes in promos and advertising. Consequently, the show’s network partners around the world have been forced to come up with creative solutions for touting the show–and Lost’s Spanish carrier, Cuatro, has set the bar pretty damn high with a just-released promo that’s stirring a buzz storm among fans. It’s so cool, it even caused Lost exec producer Cartlon Cuse to tweet a rave via Twitter: “Best Lost promo I’ve ever seen…”

[K.C.]

I've been re-watching season 1 and simultaneously watching the season 5 episodes that my DVR has been picking up from late night airings. I think, looking back that Season 5 is my favorite. There's a little too much going on at the beginning of the season, and the stuff off the island is so-so, but I really like the time jumping stuff with Faraday and the Dharma Initiative.

I'm really looking forward to season 6.

Agreed. Faraday really owns Season 5.

My favorite is probably still Season 1, but 5 is very very close.

I also like 4 a lot, even though most people think it's the worst. 2 is the worst for me.

[IamFogHat]

Cast promotional pics.
http://www.buddytv.com//slideshows/lost/lost-official-season-6-cast-photos-85658.aspx

[K.C.]

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[mikeyboy]

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The Spanish language one is better.

[K.C.]

I've beeb thibking about this show more often again, as we inch closer to the premiere and about what I really want to see in this final season, and the thing that I think I want to see most is one last glimpse of the innocence of the show from Season 1.

There's been a lot of talk about how the show has been doubling back on itself --- that Season 4 reflects Season 3 and Season 5 reflects Season 2, so there an expectation of 6 reflecting 1.

If you go back to the first season and remember it as we all watched it for the first time, it had a lot to do in a thematic sensr woth rebirth, innocence, and a sort of new awakening of the self, which was gradually lost as they tumbled further and further down the rabbit hole and became engulfed in the cosmic game of the island.

I'd love to see a nice coda on that...a glimpse at what could have been or should have been had things gone differently.

That's kind of why I'm liking more and more the 'what if' comic-style storyline I suggested they may go with, earlier in this thread.

I think it's the best way to lock down the philosophical points of the show.

[Meataball23]

The constant is on right now...queue the waterworks.

Best episode this series has had.

Im as excited as anyone for the new season, but this episode is magic...sad/romantic magic.

[IamFogHat]

I've beeb thibking about this show more often again, as we inch closer to the premiere and about what I really want to see in this final season, and the thing that I think I want to see most is one last glimpse of the innocence of the show from Season 1.

There's been a lot of talk about how the show has been doubling back on itself --- that Season 4 reflects Season 3 and Season 5 reflects Season 2, so there an expectation of 6 reflecting 1.

If you go back to the first season and remember it as we all watched it for the first time, it had a lot to do in a thematic sensr woth rebirth, innocence, and a sort of new awakening of the self, which was gradually lost as they tumbled further and further down the rabbit hole and became engulfed in the cosmic game of the island.

I'd love to see a nice coda on that...a glimpse at what could have been or should have been had things gone differently.

That's kind of why I'm liking more and more the 'what if' comic-style storyline I suggested they may go with, earlier in this thread.

I think it's the best way to lock down the philosophical points of the show.

Top ten drunk posts of 2009?

[instrument]

the fact that someone had to tell them to build that damnlanding strip leads me to believe that at least one of the group thats from the past made it back to the present.

who was it!

[K.C.]

Top ten drunk posts of 2009?

Nah, the typing errors are from posting it from my iPhone....had it for a year and still can't type on it.

And I never proof read anything...I was a journalism major, we make other people that do that for us.

[Furtherman]

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2010/01/500x_the-lost-supper.jpg

This could be just a promo shot - and may not include any clues, however, Llana is there, far left, which means she'll probably have a big role. No Juliet though, and Jin and Sun aren't next to each other.

I just started watching Season 1 again - in hope to get through all five season this month before the premiere! Will he do it? Stay tuned!

[CountryBob]

I liked WIllie Nelson in the ABC promo.

[PD]

It seems there was some new clip show today at 2:30pm

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Lost: The Final Season: Beginning of the End



I missed it though :(

[Furtherman]

So who do you think we'll find out Adam and Eve are? Bernard and Rose? Sawyer and Kate? Two others who won't be obvious?

[CountryBob]

I still think Adam and Eve are Adam and Eve.

[mikeyboy]

So who do you think we'll find out Adam and Eve are? Bernard and Rose? Sawyer and Kate? Two others who won't be obvious?

Paolo and that chick who got buried alive with him.

[TooLowBrow]

Paolo and that chick who got buried alive with him.

thats silly
paolo and nikki were buried in the present in the jungle

adam and eve were found in the present in a cave and they were already just bones

also what does the bag with the black and white stones have to do with paolo and nikki?

[Furtherman]

I think mikeyboy was kidding.

[TooLowBrow]

I think mikeyboy was kidding.

i hope so

[disneyspy]

sounds like paulo ran threw the jungle to get to the oscars

a ghee ghee ghee

[TooLowBrow]

So who do you think we'll find out Adam and Eve are? Bernard and Rose? Sawyer and Kate? Two others who won't be obvious?

the writers have said that they left an 'easter egg' about adam and eve in "Not in Portland". In that episode Karl is forced to watch a video in 'room 23. During the video "Only fools are enslaved by time and space" if heard, played backward. "Only fools are enslaved by time and space" is an anagram for 'Bones of Nadlers may lay deep in lost cave'. Rose and Bernard's last name is Nadler, so it's assumed to be them

[CountryBob]

Damn, some people have too much time to figure this stuff out!

[K.C.]

So who do you think we'll find out Adam and Eve are? Bernard and Rose? Sawyer and Kate? Two others who won't be obvious?

If it's anyone on the island presently, it's Rose & Bernard.

That said, I think it's not anyone we've been introduced to, and I think it's very possible that it's going to be one of those things left unsolved.

Really, I get the impression that they're all but done with the mythology part of the show, and that Season 6 will be almost entirely focused on wrapping up the character stories.

If you've been paying attention to some of the press in the lead up, Damon and Carlton have been making a lot of references to Disney possibly franchising Lost out for future projects...to explain everything about the island would kind of undermine that.

And they've always been up front about how they're telling a character story and the mythology is a device used to move the characters....the mythology is never going to take precedent over the character stories with this show.

So if people are expecting all the island answers, I think they're going to be somewhat disappointed.

[K.C.]

Paolo and that chick who got buried alive with him.

I'd be on board if it meant another Lando cameo.

[Furtherman]

If it's anyone on the island presently, it's Rose & Bernard.

That said, I think it's not anyone we've been introduced to, and I think it's very possible that it's going to be one of those things left unsolved.

Really, I get the impression that they're all but done with the mythology part of the show, and that Season 6 will be almost entirely focused on wrapping up the character stories.

If you've been paying attention to some of the press in the lead up, Damon and Carlton have been making a lot of references to Disney possibly franchising Lost out for future projects...to explain everything about the island would kind of undermine that.

And they've always been up front about how they're telling a character story and the mythology is a device used to move the characters....the mythology is never going to take precedent over the character stories with this show.

So if people are expecting all the island answers, I think they're going to be somewhat disappointed.

I fully expect this to end up with controversy much like The Sopranos and Battlestar Galactica finales. Not everyone is going to like it, and they will be very loud and annoying about it. I have faith that they will wrap up the show nicely, but I also feel that the island mythology does have much more to offer, and if they were to let that sit and be revealed in some kind of spin-off instead, then I'll be among those disappointed.

I think the island and characters stories will run parallel with each other at the beginning of the season, and then it will finally end up closing up the characters. Either way, it will be one hell of a ride and very frustrating to wait a week between episodes!

[K.C.]

I fully expect this to end up with controversy much like The Sopranos and Battlestar Galactica finales. Not everyone is going to like it, and they will be very loud and annoying about it. I have faith that they will wrap up the show nicely, but I also feel that the island mythology does have much more to offer, and if they were to let that sit and be revealed in some kind of spin-off instead, then I'll be among those disappointed.

I think the island and characters stories will run parallel with each other at the beginning of the season, and then it will finally end up closing up the characters. Either way, it will be one hell of a ride and very frustrating to wait a week between episodes!

I think there might be controversy with how open ended they may leave the Jacob/Man In Black/Black Rock people (Richard?)/Island mythology type stuff....and I think that's where a lot of people might be pissed.

But as far as the characters go, I really have the impression that they're not going to leave it open-ended. One of the things they've stressed with the whole franchising talk is that this story will be done and the finality of it will be pretty clear...any future incarnation of Lost will deal with completely different people and stories.

So I really expect we'll know mostly everyone's fate by the end. There may be one or two open-ended threads hanging, but at least as far as our main characters, I think it'll be wrapped up.

As for what I expect by the end:

Jack - ????? (I think he'll make a pretty prominent sacrifice. I'm not sure if it'll be in terms of dying, or if he'll essentially sacrifice living his life to protect the island, i.e. something like pushing the button in the hatch kind of sacrifice).
Kate - dead
Sawyer - dead
Sayid - dead
Locke - transcending death
Claire - dead
Ben - dead
Juliet -dead
Desmond - dead
Rose - dead
Bernard - dead
Jin - dead
Sun - alive
Hurley - alive
Miles - alive
Frank - alive
Widmore - alive
Eloise - alive
Richard - alive
Ilana - dead
Jacob - resurrected
Man In Black/Smoke Monster - contained

[K.C.]

I have faith that they will wrap up the show nicely, but I also feel that the island mythology does have much more to offer, and if they were to let that sit and be revealed in some kind of spin-off instead, then I'll be among those disappointed.


I'm not sure how I actually feel about more Lost projects.

It's tough because the universe is pretty well defined already so it limits the possibility.

Take something like all the Star Wars projects...the possibilities are limitless, because they've essentially crafted an entire new universe, and the history of it spans something like a period of 30,000 years...they'll never run out of stories if they don't want to.

With Lost, you're bound by the island, and really, you're bound by a period of 100-150 years of on-island activity, tops, before it becomes completely unrelatable to anyone.

You could do a new generation that takes place after the events of the show. You might be able to do a story about the American military in the 1950s and their dealings with the island that was referenced last season. You could do a Black Rock crew story. You could do a 'Rise of the Hostiles' type story that deals with the struggle for power between Widmore and Ben...

And after that, it gets tough, because you have to make it fit in with the show. You also would need a different take on any new project...you can't just throw new people in and redo the exact same good vs. evil, destiny vs. choice struggle as this series.

[Ocho Cinco]

That said, I think it's not anyone we've been introduced to, and I think it's very possible that it's going to be one of those things left unsolved.



i agree that they won't try to solve everything, but i would seriously doubt they don't answer who adam and eve is. rose and bernard do seem to make the most sense, but there are a few questions that must be answered in the show and that is one of them. a couple of others would be what desmond did (or didn't do) to get kicked out of the military or which orders he didn't follow, and what happened to ben's girl annie that made him the dolls. all 3 of these things better be answered this season, and i have few doubts that they will be

[K.C.]

i agree that they won't try to solve everything, but i would seriously doubt they don't answer who adam and eve is. rose and bernard do seem to make the most sense, but there are a few questions that must be answered in the show and that is one of them. a couple of others would be what desmond did (or didn't do) to get kicked out of the military or which orders he didn't follow, and what happened to ben's girl annie that made him the dolls. all 3 of these things better be answered this season, and i have few doubts that they will be

I think the latter two have been answered, just not directly.

In Desmond's case, it was strongly suggested that he served time for going AWOL from the Royal Scouts during 'The Constant' episode when he was jumping from place to place and ran off to Oxford to find Faraday and then to find Penny.

As for Annie, nothing happened really...it was a device to humanize Ben and show that he was once a some what typical, innocent child. At the very most she would have left the island in the evacuation right before the Incident, with everyone else. I don't think she's meant to play any more significant a part than that in his story.

[Ocho Cinco]

I think the latter two have been answered, just not directly.

In Desmond's case, it was strongly suggested that he served time for going AWOL from the Royal Scouts during 'The Constant' episode when he was jumping from place to place and ran off to Oxford to find Faraday and then to find Penny.

As for Annie, nothing happened really...it was a device to humanize Ben and show that he was once a some what typical, innocent child. At the very most she would have left the island in the evacuation right before the Incident, with everyone else. I don't think she's meant to play any more significant a part than that in his story.

i don't think he went AWOL on the constant, when he was on the phone w/ penny he told her he had leave for 3 days. but i feel like they hinted that there were orders that he did not follow at some point and that is what i'm curious about. but i agree with you that if they never get around to telling us specifically i could live w/ that, i don't think that is a major story point for desmond.

but the annie story... i really feel they need to answer that. i agree keeping the doll could just be to humanize him, but the whole juliet episode in the 4th season where her shrink made the comment "you look just like her", i guess that could be his mom but i always assumed it was annie. And as far as major characters go we've gotten the back story on almost everything but to show ben's first flashback and her being the only girl or person he would talk to i truly believe what happened to her will be answered, and i'm sure her result was HORRIFIC and helped make ben the way he is

on a separate note i read all the Lost threads and dig your opinion heavily KC, you def got a good take on the show and it's fun to have a differing opinion. either way 3 more f'n weeks to the premiere!!!!

[Furtherman]

The Top 10 Weirdest One-off Characters On Lost (http://io9.com/5448372/the-top-10-weirdest-one+off-characters-on-lost)

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2010/01/500x_custom_1263496766753_picture_13_01.jpg

[mikeyboy]

New t-shirt. (http://shop.ianleino.com/product/polar-beer-t-shirt)

http://cache1.bigcartel.com/product_images/11551391/polarbeer800.jpg

MAAAAAAAAAAAALT is a nice touch.

[TheGameHHH]

New t-shirt. (http://shop.ianleino.com/product/polar-beer-t-shirt)

http://cache1.bigcartel.com/product_images/11551391/polarbeer800.jpg

MAAAAAAAAAAAALT is a nice touch.

ITS A FATHERS RIGHT TO GO OUT AND DRINK HIS BEER!!!!! It's MY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[K.C.]

ITS A FATHERS RIGHT TO GO OUT AND DRINK HIS BEER!!!!! It's MY RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best.character.ever.

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[paulisded]

I'm two episodes away from finishing the fifth season.

When the show first came on, I didn't have any interest. I shy away from serial dramas, and it just didn't seem like something I'd enjoy.

Around the time when season four was airing, I started to change my mind but figured there would be no way I'd ever catch up. Used DVD's of the early seasons aren't too hard to find, but I never thought I'd find time for 100 hours of programming.

Netflix adding the first four seasons last summer changed my mind. It became a race to get through them all in around six months, and a couple of weekends with no plans allowed me to get through the third season by early October. I still didn't believe I'd make it through them in time, but have made it thanks to Netflix immediately adding season five, along with the extended Christmas break of the entire 202 platform. Lostopedia has been a great help, as I never previously paid attention to Lost talk on R&F, here, or anywhere else.

The final two episodes will be viewed tomorrow, and then I'll be ready for the February 2 premiere.

[TooLowBrow]

I'm two episodes away from finishing the fifth season.


The final two episodes will be viewed tomorrow, and then I'll be ready for the February 2 premiere.

you will cry when locke kills kate

[KingGeno]

I've been catching my chick up starting with season 1. We are on Season 5 Episode 4 now.....been a LONG watching experience, but worth it. Definitely picked up on some stuff that I missed.

[JDE]

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[PD]

Bump.
Tonight at 9pm ABC will show last season's finale.

[Aggie]

Bump.
Tonight at 9pm ABC will show last season's finale.

:squeals: i'm getting so excited!

[disneyspy]

wooohooo,the best thing on TV is almost back,i just finished watching this episode a few days ago and i'm watching it again,i'm adicted i admit it

[mikeyboy]

Watching last season's finale airing now. Have they ever done this before where they explain and give backstory on the bottom of the screen?

[TheGameHHH]

tonight im gonna finish season 3. i realized im not gonna be able to watch the whole series before the new season starts so this weekend im sacking up and becoming the last US citizen to get a DVR, that way i can finish in like 2 or 3 weeks and then catch up on the new season while its still on air. i seriously cant wait.

[JDE]

Watching last season's finale airing now. Have they ever done this before where they explain and give backstory on the bottom of the screen?

Yes many times on repeats before a new episode they would do it.

It used to be on ABC.com they had the episodes on there with the added info, I don't know if they still do.

I just checked and it's still up there, so if you look you will see multiple episodes of the ones they enhanced.

[disneyspy]

Yes many times on repeats before a new episode they would do it.

It used to be on ABC.com they had the episodes on there with the added info, I don't know if they still do.

ya,didnt they use to call that enhanced?

i have a new theory since ive watched all 5 seasons the last 2 months but i dont want to spoil the show for anyone cuz i'm pissed i thought of it

[mikeyboy]

tonight im gonna finish season 3. i realized im not gonna be able to watch the whole series before the new season starts so this weekend im sacking up and becoming the last US citizen to get a DVR, that way i can finish in like 2 or 3 weeks and then catch up on the new season while its still on air. i seriously cant wait.

Yeah, I don't recall any other time in my adult that I've been looking forward so anxiously to a television show.

[disneyspy]

Yeah, I don't recall any other time in my adult that I've been looking forward so anxiously to a television show.

i feel like a kid the week before christmas

[PD]

Watching last season's finale airing now. Have they ever done this before where they explain and give backstory on the bottom of the screen?
as was said here, they started (maybe last year?) showing the repeat episodes as these "pop up" "Enhanced" shows.

I LOVE those.
sometimes its stuff you got, but sometimes its nice backstory you may or may not have gotten or understood.

Nothing by the way that they say couldn't be figured out in other ways.

this by the way was the book Jacob was reading when waiting for Locke to fall - if you didnt catch it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_That_Rises_Must_Converge

[PD]

Yeah, I don't recall any other time in my adult that I've been looking forward so anxiously to a television show.
If i remember, you didn't watch "live" till now, right?

it is damn hard to have to wait a week for the next show.
I also can't wait till the official audio podcasts begin again.
http://abc.go.com/shows/lost/podcasts

[mikeyboy]

If i remember, you didn't watch "live" till now, right?

it is damn hard to have to wait a week for the next show.
I also can't wait till the official audio podcasts begin again.
http://abc.go.com/shows/lost/podcasts

That's right. I blew through five seasons in six weeks just in time to catch last season's finale.

I listened to many of the podcasts going backwards once I was done. I'm definitely looking forward to those returning.

[PD]

http://lostuniversity.org/lostu/site_images/trans.gif
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kqgtdrYxKV1qzzta5o1_400.jpg (http://lostuniversity.org/)

http://lostuniversity.org/

[Furtherman]

Complete Chart of Character's Past Connections (http://www.scordit.com/blog/lost-the-complete-chart-of-characters-past-connections/)

Very cool. A must for Lost fans.

[disneyspy]

Complete Chart of Character's Past Connections (http://www.scordit.com/blog/lost-the-complete-chart-of-characters-past-connections/)

Very cool. A must for Lost fans.

you would think on jack's they'd have a line from christian to claire

edit didnt realize that christians also lined out

[K.C.]

I just want to reiterate and finalize my theory of what will happen this season, that I've already brought up before on this thread and in last season's thread (with some minor tweaks):

1) The story-telling mechanism for the season will shift from flash-back/flash-forward and time-flashes to a "What if..." alternate universe series of flashes in which we see the timeline which we've been following for five seasons, from the moment where Ben and Locke exit the statue after killing Jacob, interwoven with flashes from a timeline in which Jack's plan works. The twist as follows:
a) the alternate reality never happens, which we'll find out when the 70s group appears on the present-day island (which I think won't happen until near the end of the season).
b) In the alternate reality flashes, they're still going to end up on the island.


2) We will learn that Ben should have never been a member of the Others, and was the chief pawn in the Man in Black (who is in reality the embodiment of the smoke monster) carrying out his plan to kill Jacob....Ben will learn of this reality and descend deeper and deeper into madness until he redeems him self with one heroic act that changes the course of events and ultimately costs him his life (i.e. similar, to Vader turning on the Emperor at the end of Return of the Jedi).

3) Jack will be faced ultimately with the choice of choosing a life in which he never comes to the island, and the current reality and make the choice to preserve the current timeline.

[PD]

I just want to reiterate and finalize my theory of what will happen this season, that I've already brought up before on this thread and in last season's thread (with some minor tweaks):

1) The story-telling mechanism for the season will shift from flash-back/flash-forward and time-flashes to a "What if..." alternate universe series of flashes in which we see the timeline which we've been following for five seasons, from the moment where Ben and Locke exit the statue after killing Jacob, interwoven with flashes from a timeline in which Jack's plan works. The twist as follows:
a) the alternate reality never happens, which we'll find out when the 70s group appears on the present-day island (which I think won't happen until near the end of the season).
b) In the alternate reality flashes, they're still going to end up on the island.


2) We will learn that Ben should have never been a member of the Others, and was the chief pawn in the Man in Black (who is in reality the embodiment of the smoke monster) carrying out his plan to kill Jacob....Ben will learn of this reality and descend deeper and deeper into madness until he redeems him self with one heroic act that changes the course of events and ultimately costs him his life (i.e. similar, to Vader turning on the Emperor at the end of Return of the Jedi).

3) Jack will be faced ultimately with the choice of choosing a life in which he never comes to the island, and the current reality and make the choice to preserve the current timeline.

sounds plausible.
(the idea that its what they will do)

[JDE]

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The first 4 minutes of the year.

do not click unless you want to see it obv.

[Aggie]

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The first 4 minutes of the year.

do not click unless you want to see it obv.

O-M-G I CAN'T WAIT!!!! :thumbup:

[Furtherman]

I so want to watch that..... BUT I WON'T!!!

[CountryBob]

I will only feel 100% satisfied if they still end up on the island at the end of the show. For some reason, I dont want them to have any chance of having another reality - ex. not crashing in the first place.
Ben being heroic is a must - you just feel it coming.

[mikeyboy]

I so want to watch that..... BUT I WON'T!!!

Same here.

[PD]

the site, http://darkufo.blogspot.com/
always has good stuff - but beware the spoilers (usually marked) because they often are right on.


Here is non-spoiler- "Unanswered Questions" posted by a site.

http://www.approachinglost.com/files/2010/01/UnansweredQuestions.pdf

[PD]

Promo, from Euro network Sky one

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-sky-one-lost-season-6-promo.html

I can't imbed the vid properly so just go to the link
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[PD]

oh also, if you haven't seen this

5 years in 5 minutes.

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[PD]

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The first 4 minutes of the year.

do not click unless you want to see it obv.
It wasn't that much of a spoiler; the first 2+ minutes are the end of the finale, and you can guess about the next 2 - it's only a spoiler in that it gives what you would expect to follow.

anyway, there was a major spoiler- the first episode was broadcast on a beach in Hawaii and someone ustreamed it- but it seems ABC found out and killed it.

I know someone that watched it and he said it definitely lived up to expectations.

damn I'm excited!

[K.C.]

It wasn't that much of a spoiler; the first 2+ minutes are the end of the finale, and you can guess about the next 2 - it's only a spoiler in that it gives what you would expect to follow.

anyway, there was a major spoiler- the first episode was broadcast on a beach in Hawaii and someone ustreamed it- but it seems ABC found out and killed it.

I know someone that watched it and he said it definitely lived up to expectations.

damn I'm excited!

They actually had the episode leaked online earlier today...someone had shot a shaky cam version of the whole thing from the premiere screening last night, but it got taken down pretty quick.

I thought about watching it, but I can wait instead of watching it at an off-angle with horrible audio quality.

[disneyspy]

just got back from BEST BUY,they have season 5 for 25 bucks

[disneyspy]

and remember,whatever happened,happened

[TheGameHHH]

just got back from BEST BUY,they have season 5 for 25 bucks

What???? I just got back from Best Buy too and Season 5 cost me $45

[disneyspy]

What???? I just got back from Best Buy too and Season 5 cost me $45

you got robbed unless you bought the bluray

[K.C.]

you got robbed unless you bought the bluray

You can get the Blu-Ray on Amazon for $35 today...qualifies for the free shipping, too.

[TonyStark]

Cannot wait for this to start. I think I'm going to be watching them a bit late though since We're trying to power through season 4 and 5 before watching the newest ones. I'm guessing by Saturday or Sunday next week I'll be good to go.

[disneyspy]

Cannot wait for this to start. I think I'm going to be watching them a bit late though since We're trying to power through season 4 and 5 before watching the newest ones. I'm guessing by Saturday or Sunday next week I'll be good to go.

last year i bowled on LOST nights its fun to use this thread as your watching the show in replay,i look forward to be able to join in this year

[TheGameHHH]

you got robbed unless you bought the bluray

of course i bought the blu-ray. what am i gonna do, watch it on a standard definition television in outdated DVD format?

[TheGameHHH]

Cannot wait for this to start. I think I'm going to be watching them a bit late though since We're trying to power through season 4 and 5 before watching the newest ones. I'm guessing by Saturday or Sunday next week I'll be good to go.

yea, im re-watching the show again and doing the same thing you are. Plus, my TiVo doesnt arrive until february 5th or so, so im gonna be behind for the first few weeks.

[disneyspy]

of course i bought the blu-ray. what am i gonna do, watch it on a standard definition television in outdated DVD format?

i wish i had waited til this week to buy it on blu ray,it cost alot more the day after christmas and i didnt even watch it til last week

ps-the orientation package is kind of a rip off

[Furtherman]

I've been watching S5 this weekend and Ben's reaction when Hurley throws the burrito at him is why he won the Emmy. Also the look he gave Sayid in the hatch in S2, when you knew he wasn't Henry Gale. He'll go down as one of the best Lost characters. Hilarious and devious. It's gonna be hard waiting a week between shows.

[K.C.]

i wish i had waited til this week to buy it on blu ray,it cost alot more the day after christmas and i didnt even watch it til last week

ps-the orientation package is kind of a rip off

I was thinking about buying that, but it looks like all the video features are the same...the difference is the packaging and the add-in (DHARMA patches, VHS tape, maps) so, I'll probably just get the regular Blu-Ray.

[PD]

I've been watching S5 this weekend and Ben's reaction when Hurley throws the burrito at him is why he won the Emmy. Also the look he gave Sayid in the hatch in S2, when you knew he wasn't Henry Gale. He'll go down as one of the best Lost characters. Hilarious and devious. It's gonna be hard waiting a week between shows.

as you may know, legend is that Ben was supposed a minor character, but after seeing Michael Emerson's performance they changed it up

[Aggie]

HA!

http://weblog.muledesign.com/Lost_Kubricks.jpg

[disneyspy]

HA!

http://weblog.muledesign.com/Lost_Kubricks.jpg

whats hugos thing? is that a toaster?

[Servo]

whats hugos thing? is that a toaster?

I think that's his Discman.

[disneyspy]

I think that's his Discman.

ah,thank you,that makes sense

[PD]

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Yunjin-Kim-yunjin-kim-179964_800_941.jpg

to pass the time, here is Yunjin Kim (aka Sun)

[Furtherman]

A Timeline of the ‘Lost’ Universe (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/01/31/arts/television/20100131-lost-timeline.html?hp)

"Lost," which begins its final season on Feb. 2, isn't just about plane crashes, polar bears, magical numbers and mysterious black smoke. It's also about choosing whether to surrender to destiny or to determine your own fate. To keep track of which side (i.e. Jack or Locke) is winning, you need to see the results of their choices; hence the show, and some of its characters, have been hopping around in time for several seasons. Because this can get awfully confusing — did Desmond meet Faraday before or after Ben wiped out the Dharma Initiative? — we've arranged some major events of the show's first five seasons in chronological order.

[K.C.]

I think that's his Discman.

I thought it was the jar of DHARMA ranch dressing.

[K.C.]

Just saw the first episode of the two-part premiere tomorrow...someone I know got a copy of it.

Very good. I don't want to spoil anything by going into detail, but I would say it has very much the same feel as the Season 4 premiere. You're left with a lot of the same feelings.

You get four fairly significant answers in the first hour.

[Dan 'Hampton]

I thought it was a scale.

[Don Stugots]

I've been watching S5 this weekend and Ben's reaction when Hurley throws the burrito at him is why he won the Emmy. Also the look he gave Sayid in the hatch in S2, when you knew he wasn't Henry Gale. He'll go down as one of the best Lost characters. Hilarious and devious. It's gonna be hard waiting a week between shows.

http://www.socksmakepeoplesexy.net/images/hurley_burrito.gif

[TheGameHHH]

I'm not gonna see the preimere tomorrow so ill be out of this thread for a week or two. Can't wait for this season!

[JDE]

The first episode of Totally Lost is up on EW.

It is pretty funny, with some surprises, and teases for the first episode, as well as the last season of Lost.


http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/02/totally-lost-season-6-premiere-ben-locke/

[Aggie]

i just watched the season finale last night to get ready for tonight. i forget if anyone talked about it last year or if the producers mentioned it, but i was reminded of the biblical story of job. when "locke" told ben he would be killing jacob and he asked "locke", 'why would i do that?'

he then reminded ben of all of the things that had gone wrong (getting cancer, his daughter getting murdered, never seeing jacob even though he followed him blindly) and then "locke" said, 'the question is, why wouldn't you want to kill jacob?' of course this sways ben into thinking his faith was misplaced and he ultimately kills jacob. do you think this will lead to ben sacrificing himself once he realizes what he's done?

it just reminded me of the story of job and how his faith was tested by the devil, telling god he could make job's faith waver. the opening scene of that episode with jacob and the man in black was very similar in that jacob seems to think he can get the best out of people and of course the man in black representing evil disagrees and is plotting a loophole to kill jacob.

i have no idea how it ties into the plot but just wanted to throw it out there.

[Ocho Cinco]

i just watched the season finale last night to get ready for tonight. i forget if anyone talked about it last year or if the producers mentioned it, but i was reminded of the biblical story of job. when "locke" told ben he would be killing jacob and he asked "locke", 'why would i do that?'

he then reminded ben of all of the things that had gone wrong (getting cancer, his daughter getting murdered, never seeing jacob even though he followed him blindly) and then "locke" said, 'the question is, why wouldn't you want to kill jacob?' of course this sways ben into thinking his faith was misplaced and he ultimately kills jacob. do you think this will lead to ben sacrificing himself once he realizes what he's done?

it just reminded me of the story of job and how his faith was tested by the devil, telling god he could make job's faith waver. the opening scene of that episode with jacob and the man in black was very similar in that jacob seems to think he can get the best out of people and of course the man in black representing evil disagrees and is plotting a loophole to kill jacob.

i have no idea how it ties into the plot but just wanted to throw it out there.

The crazy thing is that even after "locke" reminds him off everything bad and Ben is on his way to kill Jacob I still don't think he could do it until he asked "what about me?" and Jacob just replies "what about you?" Ben was hanging by a thread and Jacob is the one who pushed him over, and i wonder why. Once Jacob said that though you knew it was game over, what a powerful scene

i think Ben will die this final season and I do hope it is to sacrifice himself for the greater good realizing what he has done. He deserves redemption and hopefully that will give it to him. But i'll say again they still need to explain what happened to his girl Annie from the D.I., that's one story i hope gets closure!

anyone else take off work today and tomorrow to do Lost marathons at their place? because i sure as hell did. hours away from LA X!

[disneyspy]

i took the winter off to do a LOST marathon

[Doctor Manhattan]

i took the winter off to do a LOST marathon

I re-watched season 5 twice in the past few weeks, also re-watched season 4 and a few key episodes from the 1st 3 seasons.

[Furtherman]

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[KingGeno]

This Better Be Good Tonight, Dammit!

[Doctor Manhattan]

This Better Be Good Tonight, Dammit!

Even when Lost stinks ("Stranger in a Strange Land" "Exposé") it is still much better than just about everything else on TV. I do not think they have had anything resembling a weak episode since they mapped out the end of the show which I believe was just before Season 3 ended when they announced that Lost would wrap up its story with 3 shortened seasons, and with that the filler episodes died.

They have not had a weak season opener why would they start now?

[paulisded]

Even when Lost stinks ("Stranger in a Strange Land" "Exposé") it is still much better than just about everything else on TV. I do not think they have had anything resembling a weak episode since they mapped out the end of the show which I believe was just before Season 3 ended when they announced that Lost would wrap up its story with 3 shortened seasons, and with that the filler episodes died.

They have not had a weak season opener why would they start now?

Expectations are higher for this opener than any of the others...not only because it's the last season but the addition of new viewers who rushed to catch up or come close to catching up.

[Furtherman]

"Exposé"

Underrated! It's a very Hitchcockian episode and Nikki was hot! It brought nothing to the series overall, but was a nice stand alone episode. Plus it brought back Artz.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/tim_archer/SubAlbum1/lost-nikki.jpg

[Doctor Manhattan]

Plus it brought back Artz.

That is a good point. Best part of that episode. . Hopefully we will see him tonight!Nikki was hot, but the island is full of hot chicks who aren't as annoying

[Furtherman]

Artz did have the distinction of "Best Island Death Ever", next to Jet-Engine death (I know he had a name but forget it now - the author).

[mikeyboy]

Underrated! It's a very Hitchcockian episode and Nikki was hot! It brought nothing to the series overall, but was a nice stand alone episode. Plus it brought back Artz.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/tim_archer/SubAlbum1/lost-nikki.jpg

I actually thought it was pretty good as a standalone episode. I can see if you were a weekly watcher of the show, you might be pissed to wait a week for a new episode and not get any advancement in the Lost saga whatsoever, but I was blowing through seasons 1-5 over a six week period, and it was an enjoyable, self-contained story with a gut punch ending.

On a side note, I hate to bring twitter into this, but a couple of months ago, Brazilian Julie was on a Lost marathon binge and was commenting on the episodes on Twitter. Unless you had a general idea where she was in the series, it was hard to follow what she was commenting on, but it was interesting to see the visceral reactions she was having to the show as a first time viewer. When it became clear she was watching the Paulo and Nikki episode, I was refreshing every few minutes waiting for her eventual OMG! OMG! reaction when she got to the ending.

[paulisded]

I actually thought it was pretty good as a standalone episode. I can see if you were a weekly watcher of the show, you might be pissed to wait a week for a new episode and not get any advancement in the Lost saga whatsoever, but I was blowing through seasons 1-5 over a six week period, and it was an enjoyable, self-contained story with a gut punch ending.

On a side note, I hate to bring twitter into this, but a couple of months ago, Brazilian Julie was on a Lost marathon binge and was commenting on the episodes on Twitter. Unless you had a general idea where she was in the series, it was hard to follow what she was commenting on, but it was interesting to see the visceral reactions she was having to the show as a first time viewer. When it became clear she was watching the Paulo and Nikki episode, I was refreshing every few minutes waiting for her eventual OMG! OMG! reaction when she got to the ending.

Yeah, I was on about the same spot as her as she was going through them. Actually, I was usually an ep or two ahead of her, so I knew exactly what she was going through. I was using Lostopedia, though, to help explain some of the stuff I was witnessing.

[IMSlacker]

Wasn't that the "razzle dazzle" episode? I give it a pass for that alone.

[K.C.]

Hour until the pre-show. Probably won't post during the show...I'll come back with observations afterwards, but my guess is that most of the things that happen this season will be fairly self-explanatory...I don't imagine there will be a ton of connecting the dots.

[disneyspy]

thank god its TUESDAY!!

[disneyspy]

Wtf!

[hammersavage]

Aquaman type shit

[midwestjeff]

I can't believe that J.R. got shot!!!!!

[hammersavage]

Oh come on

[Furtherman]

Desmund on plane?!

[Furtherman]

That is a good point. Best part of that episode. . Hopefully we will see him tonight!Nikki was hot, but the island is full of hot chicks who aren't as annoying

ARTZ!

[disneyspy]

i'm lost

[Furtherman]

Love seeing Rose and Bernard. This is awesomely WTF?!

[disneyspy]

Love seeing Rose and Bernard. This is awesomely WTF?!

i agree but boone looked alittle old,i hope they dont show walt with a mustache

[disneyspy]

i guess charlie flash forwarded

[IamFogHat]

I am getting mind fornicated tonight.

[IamFogHat]

Sawyer mad! Grrrr!

[opie's twisted balls]

ARTZ!
best post science teacher being exploded quote ever......

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[disneyspy]

i'm lost and sad at the same time