Lost: The Final Season - Destiny Found

[disneyspy]

ok you're forgetting that they didnt land at LAX which they thought would happen,think harder you're almost there

[Kevin]

ok you're forgetting that they didnt land at LAX which they thought would happen,think harder you're almost there



It did silly, it just went back many years and to a non populated area, thats how we got the Grand Canyon.

DUUUUUHHH.

[disneyspy]

It did silly, it just went back many years and to a non populated area, thats how we got the Grand Canyon.

DUUUUUHHH.

you're silly

i was going to give a hint but i have an hour til i go to bed

[Kevin]

you're silly

i was going to give a hint but i have an hour til i go to bed



Oh yea...

YOUR FACE IS SILLY!!!!

[K.C.]

ok you're forgetting that they didnt land at LAX which they thought would happen,think harder you're almost there

They didn't land at LAX because it always happened that way. Whatever happened happened.

They didn't change anything...they were always suppose to detonate the bomb. And the after-effects of the bomb caused the pregnancy problems on the island.

[disneyspy]

They didn't land at LAX because it always happened that way. Whatever happened happened.

They didn't change anything...they were always suppose to detonate the bomb. And the after-effects of the bomb caused the pregnancy problems on the island.

im sure if the bomb had gone off,there wouldve been more than just pregnancy problems

ok why did radzinsky pull a michelangelo and paint the cieling?

[K.C.]

im sure if the bomb had gone off,there wouldve been more than just pregnancy problems

ok why did radzinsky pull a michelangelo and paint the cieling?


I believe a the blast radius for a lower end nuclear detonation is like 1.5-2 miles and then there's obviously lingering effects that spread for miles beyond it but don't necessarily cause destruction.

Plus this was detonated DEEP underground...so, it's possible the actual "destructive" effects were somewhat tempered above ground.

All anyone would have had to do is get in one of the many DHARMA cars at the Swan and flee the scene.

After the Incident, they had to contain the electromagnetic leak, so they still had to build the Swan...the bomb didn't eradicate it.

[boobieman]

the people you liked.

Oh so I'm alone..Whew...

SSSSYYEYAAAAA

[disneyspy]

I believe a the blast radius for a lower end nuclear detonation is like 1.5-2 miles and then there's obviously lingering effects that spread for miles beyond it but don't necessarily cause destruction.

Plus this was detonated DEEP underground...so, it's possible the actual "destructive" effects were somewhat tempered above ground.

All anyone would have had to do is get in one of the many DHARMA cars at the Swan and flee the scene.

After the Incident, they had to contain the electromagnetic leak, so they still had to build the Swan...the bomb didn't eradicate it.

so you're sayin if you were layin right next to a nuke when it went off,you'd be fine,ohh boy,you're right,go back to reading your incredible hulk comic books cuz you've obviously got it all figured out,i wont try and help you out anymore

[underdog]

so you're sayin if you were layin right next to a nuke when it went off,you'd be fine,ohh boy,you're right,go back to reading your incredible hulk comic books cuz you've obviously got it all figured out,i wont try and help you out anymore

Couldn't it be possible that they were transported back to the present time a split second before the nuke went off?

[disneyspy]

Couldn't it be possible that they were transported back to the present time a split second before the nuke went off?

yes that is possible (and more likely)

[sailor]

Couldn't it be possible that they were transported back to the present time a split second before the nuke went off?

the half-life of radiation is only 15 years, so that would work.

[disneyspy]

the half-life of radiation is only 15 years, so that would work.

the nuke never went off is the point,quit fuckin with the tards,if i have to point out the obvious then i will but i prefer for others to see it for themselves

[underdog]

the nuke never went off is the point,quit fuckin with the tards,if i have to point out the obvious then i will but i prefer for others to see it for themselves

Then for the sake of argument, what happened to the nuke? If it was at the bottom of the pit, wouldn't it have gone off when Desmond hit the fail safe and the site exploded? Unless the nuke was the fail safe, then the radiation gave Desmond super powers. And he became Aquaman.

[disneyspy]

Then for the sake of argument, what happened to the nuke? If it was at the bottom of the pit, wouldn't it have gone off when Desmond hit the fail safe and the site exploded? Unless the nuke was the fail safe, then the radiation gave Desmond super powers. And he became Aquaman.

what caused the pregnant WOMEN to die in their third trimester?

its right fucking there

[disneyspy]

and farrady told his young mom that the nuke doesnt go off because the island is still around in the future

[underdog]

what caused the pregnant WOMEN to die in their third trimester?

Jacob.

[underdog]

and farrady told his young mom that the nuke doesnt go off because the island is still around in the future

So what happened to it?

[disneyspy]

So what happened to it?

judging by the way the posters (except for strawberrypop) in this thread cant use logic and imagination to figure this out im pretty sure all you people do is visit fansites and google answers to have others tell you what to believe,its really sad that its a generation of googlers

[disneyspy]

and another hint,farradays mom was pregnant with him and on the island when the nuke would have been blown if it had been blown,what does the construction of the swan and the pregnant women have in common?

[underdog]

judging by the way the posters (except for strawberrypop) in this thread cant use logic and imagination to figure this out im pretty sure all you people do is visit fansites and google answers to have others tell you what to believe,its really sad that its a generation of googlers

The fact that you won't come out and give the "answer" makes me believe you have no clue.

[EliSnow]

So what happened to it?


Nothing.

[underdog]

Nothing.

Even though there was a giant electromagnetic explosion directly on top of it, which cause the hatch to explode, nothing happened to the nuke?

[Kevin]

ok you're forgetting that they didnt land at LAX which they thought would happen,think harder you're almost there



THEY DIDN'T LAND ON LAX, LAX LANDED ON THEM!

[EliSnow]

Even though there was a giant electromagnetic explosion directly on top of it, which cause the hatch to explode, nothing happened to the nuke?

I think that the nuke never went off, and after the survivors jumped to the present, the Dharma initiative cleaned up the mess and got rid of the nuke.

[EliSnow]

what caused the pregnant WOMEN to die in their third trimester?

its right fucking there

Didn't Juliet explain that it was the island's healing powers?

I thought for certain she explained it. Here's what she said:

The problem occurs somewhere during the second trimester, when the mother's immune system is triggered. The white blood cell count plummets. It's like the … immune system turns on the fetus.

[underdog]

Didn't Juliet explain that it was the island's healing powers?

I thought for certain she explained it. Here's what she said:



Hmm... that's a good thought.

I hate how random the island's healing powers were through the show, tough.

[fezident]

Nikki & Paulo should've been in the church.

[instrument]

You people keep saying "nuke" but what they exploded was the normal tnt part that is used to detonate the bomb.....

If anything affected the woman it was probably the proximity of the leaking nuclear material to the islands water source......but not the "nuke" going off......cause...well....it wasnt a f'n nuke. Farraday said bury it in cement, not place it under a stream.

[disneyspy]

You people keep saying "nuke" but what they exploded was the normal tnt part that is used to detonate the bomb.....

If anything affected the woman it was probably the proximity of the leaking nuclear material to the islands water source......but not the "nuke" going off......cause...well....it wasnt a f'n nuke. Farraday said bury it in cement, not place it under a stream.

the fissionable material of a nuke is the size of a golf ball,the surrounding explosive detonates inward to cause the chain reation, what sayid brought out was war head and farrady said he knew the nuke doesnt go off because the island was around in the future

[fezident]

You people keep saying "nuke" but what they exploded was the normal tnt part that is used to detonate the bomb.....
....it wasnt a f'n nuke. .


In the season 6 premiere, after the explosion, Sawyer refers to it as an "atom bomb".

[fezident]

Random question:
Did Jacob's "mother" CAUSE the shipwreck that stranded Claudia on the island so that she could deliver the babies and choose her own successor?

I'm tempted to say YES but...
given some of her statements, I'd think she would have chosen a female. She has no faith in the morals of men.

Thoughts?

[disneyspy]

Random question:
Did Jacob's "mother" CAUSE the shipwreck that stranded Claudia on the island so that she could deliver the babies and choose her own successor?

I'm tempted to say YES but...
given some of her statements, I'd think she would have chosen a female. She has no faith in the morals of men.

Thoughts?

i never thought of that but you're probably right and she did bring them to the island like jacob and esau brought others to the island

now here's my question,when jacobs real mother first saw the eternal mother in the reflection of the stream what did she see that scared the shit out of her? ive rewound that a few times and the clothes and image are different but i cant figure out what the hell it is

[fezident]

It never occurred to me that the island mother's reflection was not her own. I just watched that scene your referring to again on my iPhone and the reflection, to me, looks right.

My sense of things was that Claudia was dehydrated, in shock, scared, and SEEMINGLY alone. The sudden & silent appearance of island mother simply startled her.

Now that we're talking about it though.... I wonder if Claudia didn't hear Island mom approaching because, perhaps, she was traveling in smoke form (?!!) rather than on foot. It would explain why Claudia was so shocked to suddenly see another person suddenly standing before her.

[disneyspy]

dont know cuz smokey is a pretty noisy feller

and island mom said that going down that tunnel to the light was worse than death so maybe she was a smoke monster that liked to feel her feet (smoke locke said that) im going to go back and watch that reflecting stream scene again and see if her head was made of smoke

[EliSnow]

In the season 6 premiere, after the explosion, Sawyer refers to it as an "atom bomb".

He also calls himself Sawyer, although his name is James Ford.

Add to the fact that he really wasn't there when the bomb was constructed, you can't assume that his word is canon.

[Rhah]

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7937/jacobrules.jpg

[underdog]

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7937/jacobrules.jpg

hahahaah

[Kevin]

I have come to a single solid conclusion out of all of this..

You guys are all nerds

[EliSnow]

I have come to a single solid conclusion out of all of this..

You guys are all nerds

Took you a long time to reach that obvious conclusion.

[disneyspy]

Took you a long time to reach that obvious conclusion.

he's slow

[boobieman]

he's slow

Wait Wait..their are Nerds here??????


SSEYAYYAA

[Lady Resin]

What a nut! (http://eastsidedavevideos.posterous.com/dharma-powerball):laugh:

[disneyspy]

What a nut! (http://eastsidedavevideos.posterous.com/dharma-powerball):laugh:

dammit i was just about to post this!

it did crack me up

[K.C.]

What a nut! (http://eastsidedavevideos.posterous.com/dharma-powerball):laugh:

When ever I buy a ticket (which isn't often), I usually buy those numbers. Although you have to flip the 23 and 42...powerball number only goes to 39 I think.

[underdog]

What a nut! (http://eastsidedavevideos.posterous.com/dharma-powerball):laugh:

Dave fucking rules.

[Rhah]

My wife always says that if those numbers are ever the winning numbers (has anyone checked the full lotto history to see if they ever hit?) that there would be so many winners splitting that final cash prize, hehe. Would still be nice and you'd be a part of history.

[Doctor Manhattan]

I had to unfollow @DamonLindelof (http://twitter.com/DamonLindelof) on twitter. Since Lost ended his posts are just awful.

[Contra]

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7937/jacobrules.jpg

Nice

[instrument]

Walt!

[EliSnow]

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7937/jacobrules.jpg

It's funny, but I'm going to be a nerd here, and nit pick #4. When was that shown in the series? Doesn't it contradict what happened to Sayid and Jin?

[Kevin]

It's funny, but I'm going to be a nerd here, and nit pick #4. When was that shown in the series? Doesn't it contradict what happened to Sayid and Jin?

1. You are a nerd.

2. You are right... I guess it meant non selfish suicide?

[EliSnow]

1. You are a nerd.

2. You are right... I guess it meant non selfish suicide?

1. Hence the King Nerd status.

2. Okay, but when did a replacement/candidate try "non-selfish suicide" and was couldn't do it? What event is #4 referencing?

[Kevin]

1. Hence the King Nerd status.

2. Okay, but when did a replacement/candidate try "non-selfish suicide" and was couldn't do it? What event is #4 referencing?

From wiki

Michael is a New York artist and construction worker who has not communicated with his son Walt since he was a baby. When Walt's mother dies in Australia, Michael comes to collect his son (and Walt's dog, Vincent). Michael is the first on the island to learn that Sun speaks English, and he has various conflicts with Jin. While trying to escape the Island via raft, Michael's son Walt is abducted by the Others. Michael strikes a deal with the Others wherein he exchanges Kate, Jack, Sawyer, and Hurley for Walt, and together the two leave the island by boat. However; when they return home, Walt goes to live with his grandmother after finding out that Michael killed Libby and Ana Lucia while carrying out his part of the deal. Michael tries to commit suicide a couple times but soon finds out that "the island won't let him die." He later infiltrates the Kahana freighter crew under the orders of Ben, in the hopes of making up for the lives he took by saving those of the people left on the island. He is killed in an explosion on the Kahana while trying to deactivate a bomb.


Wow, I am a nerd..

[K.C.]

1. Hence the King Nerd status.

2. Okay, but when did a replacement/candidate try "non-selfish suicide" and was couldn't do it? What event is #4 referencing?

It references the fact that Michael couldn't kill himself until "the island was done with him" and Jack was ready to commit suicide at the beginning of the Season 3 finale and was magically interrupted by a car wreck just as he was ready to jump.

But it was never really established that was the reason why that stuff happened.

Also I guess it references Richard, but he was never a candidate.

[EliSnow]

From wiki

Michael is a New York artist and construction worker who has not communicated with his son Walt since he was a baby. When Walt's mother dies in Australia, Michael comes to collect his son (and Walt's dog, Vincent). Michael is the first on the island to learn that Sun speaks English, and he has various conflicts with Jin. While trying to escape the Island via raft, Michael's son Walt is abducted by the Others. Michael strikes a deal with the Others wherein he exchanges Kate, Jack, Sawyer, and Hurley for Walt, and together the two leave the island by boat. However; when they return home, Walt goes to live with his grandmother after finding out that Michael killed Libby and Ana Lucia while carrying out his part of the deal. Michael tries to commit suicide a couple times but soon finds out that "the island won't let him die." He later infiltrates the Kahana freighter crew under the orders of Ben, in the hopes of making up for the lives he took by saving those of the people left on the island. He is killed in an explosion on the Kahana while trying to deactivate a bomb.


Wow, I am a nerd..

Okay, yes, he couldn't commit suicide, but at that point, was he really a replacement/candidate? He was told that he couldn't die because the island needed him, but that doesn't mean that he was a replacement for Jacob and that's why he couldn't commit suicide.

[Kevin]

Okay, yes, he couldn't commit suicide, but at that point, was he really a replacement/candidate? He was told that he couldn't die because the island needed him, but that doesn't mean that he was a replacement for Jacob and that's why he couldn't commit suicide.

Wasn't everyone on the Island a Candidate?

From the flight i mean..

Why else would Jacob bring them to the Island?

[K.C.]

It's funny, but I'm going to be a nerd here, and nit pick #4. When was that shown in the series? Doesn't it contradict what happened to Sayid and Jin?

Also, no.

Technically, Sawyer killed Sayid, Jin, and Sun.

[Kevin]

Also, no.

Technically, Sawyer killed Sayid, Jin, and Sun.

Ehhhhhh.....

Sahid didn't HAVE to take it and run...

And he said it was you all along Jack, so he was in on it...

Thats really a thin line you are crossing, KC..

[EliSnow]

Also, no.

Technically, Sawyer killed Sayid, Jin, and Sun.

That's not true. If Jin would have left Sun when she asked he would have lived, as Jack and Sawyer did. It was only his desire to stay that killed him.

Plus, maybe Sayid could have thrown the bomb somewhere. But he ran away with it knowing it would kill him. That's suicide.

[Kevin]

That's not true. If Jin would have left Sun when she asked he would have lived, as Jack and Sawyer did. It was only his desire to stay that killed him.

Plus, maybe Sayid could have thrown the bomb somewhere. But he ran away with it knowing it would kill him. That's suicide.

Yea, he coulda grabbed it and chucked it as far as he could, it wasn't a heavy bomb.

He chose to make sure he got the job done and took his life.

Jin and Sahid had choices..

[EliSnow]

Wasn't everyone on the Island a Candidate?

From the flight i mean..

Why else would Jacob bring them to the Island?

That's not true because Smokey killed a number of the survivors.

[Kevin]

That's not true because Smokey killed a number of the survivors.

I guess the people who were "needed" couldn't commit suicide?

Maybe Sahid had to stay alive to save Jack and everyone and once Jack was deemed the guy for that point, Jin and Sun were no longer needed?

[EliSnow]

I guess the people who were "needed" couldn't commit suicide?

Maybe Sahid had to stay alive to save Jack and everyone and once Jack was deemed the guy for that point, Jin and Sun were no longer needed?

If Sayid was needed only to save Jack, then he wasn't a true candidate.

There is only one person who couldn't commit suicide, and there is nothing to suggest that Michael was a candidate then.

[K.C.]

Yea, he coulda grabbed it and chucked it as far as he could, it wasn't a heavy bomb.

He chose to make sure he got the job done and took his life.

Jin and Sahid had choices..

You can choose to be killed.

Jacob chose to be killed (didn't do anything to resist Ben).

It's like with Richard and Jack and the dynamite.

If Jack lights a stick of dynamite, and Richard can't kill himself, is Richard "killing himself" by just sitting there, even though he didn't create the instrument of his own destruction?

It was the whole point of why they were suppose to get on the Sub. If MIB can't kill them, and they can't kill themselves, then he needed them to kill each other. And putting them on a sub, with a bomb, with a timer and asking them to trust each other was exactly how he got that accomplished.

Sawyer detonated that bomb. Did Sayid choose to grab the bomb and run? Yes. Did Sayid kill himself? No.

Same with the Jin and Sun. The bomb detonation put them on a sinking ship. Did he choose to stay there yes? Did the choice kill him? No, the sinking ship did.

It's a chicken & egg philosophical style debate. And I think it was purposely intended to muddy the waters between these rules of destiny and choice.

[K.C.]

If Sayid was needed only to save Jack, then he wasn't a true candidate.

There is only one person who couldn't commit suicide, and there is nothing to suggest that Michael was a candidate then.

I think one of the things that came across in the penultimate episode was that there was no real method to the madness of Jacob selecting Candidates.

Sayid was a candidate, because he fit a type....a person irrepairably broken in the real world who was given the choice of embracing a new life....a choice that he struggled with right up until the end when he finally somewhat redeemed himself.

[Kevin]

I still have a hard time believing that Heaven for Sahid would not involve Nadia somehow..

I know he grew to Love Shannon, but he never stopped loving Nadia either..

[K.C.]

I still have a hard time believing that Heaven for Sahid would not involve Nadia somehow..

I know he grew to Love Shannon, but he never stopped loving Nadia either..

I agree that it was poorly planned.

But I think what they were going for is that Nadia represented everything about a life that he could never fix, that he'd never be happy in, that he'd always be chasing after and in doing so, be exploited to do terrible things...

Whereas, Shannon only knew him in his purest sense...that early island, "everyone gets a fresh start" period where she liked him just because of who he was.

That said, yeah, that did a bad job setting it up considering Shannon didn't even play into a Sayid character story for the last four years.

[EliSnow]

You can choose to be killed.

Jacob chose to be killed (didn't do anything to resist Ben).

It's like with Richard and Jack and the dynamite.

If Jack lights a stick of dynamite, and Richard can't kill himself, is Richard "killing himself" by just sitting there, even though he didn't create the instrument of his own destruction?

It was the whole point of why they were suppose to get on the Sub. If MIB can't kill them, and they can't kill themselves, then he needed them to kill each other. And putting them on a sub, with a bomb, with a timer and asking them to trust each other was exactly how he got that accomplished.

Sawyer detonated that bomb. Did Sayid choose to grab the bomb and run? Yes. Did Sayid kill himself? No.

Same with the Jin and Sun. The bomb detonation put them on a sinking ship. Did he choose to stay, there yes? Did the choice kill him? No, the sinking ship did.

It's a chicken & egg philosophical style debate. And I think it was purposely intended to muddy the waters between these rules of destiny and choice.

I disagree with you 100% about Sawyer/Sayid/Jin. Yes, the choice for Jin to stay killed him. The ship didn't kill Jack or Sawyer, because Jack chose to leave the ship. Jin had that choice but didn't. He chose to die, and committed suicide. As for Sayid, if could have live if he ran to another part of the ship without the bomb. But he ran off with it. He chose to die. If you want to make the point that is was a "non-selfish suicide" that's different, but Sayid chose a path where the only end was his death. That's suicide.

But even if you put that aside there is nothing to suggest that a Candidate couldn't commit suicide. Yes, the dynamite didn't go off on Richard, but he wasn't a Candidate. And Jack made the same choice that Jin made. But the dynamite didn't go off. Why?

The logical conclusion to the Michael and Richard examples isn't that Candidates couldn't commit suicide. It's that if the Island needs someone, Candidate or no, they couldn't die.

[EliSnow]

One further point about the Jin/Sayid thing. By KC's logic, if I threw myself in front of a train, it's not the choice that killed me, it's the train. But that would be suicide.

[K.C.]

One further point about the Jin/Sayid thing. By KC's logic, if I threw myself in front of a train, it's not the choice that killed me, it's the train. But that would be suicide.

I think that's different...you throwing yourself in front of the train makes you the primary instrument of your own destruction.

In the other cases, it was an exterior force triggered by another person.

So, do you think the bomb would have gone off regardless of whether they had tampered with it?

[TheGameHHH]

show's over guys, move on

[instrument]

Two episodes that shouldve been.

1. Showing the smoke monster manipulating ben from childhood to eventually kill Jacob.

2. A further explanation of Eloise, she obviously had more knowledge then we were ever told.

[King Imp]

Plus, maybe Sayid could have thrown the bomb somewhere. But he ran away with it knowing it would kill him. That's suicide.

Yea, he coulda grabbed it and chucked it as far as he could, it wasn't a heavy bomb.

He chose to make sure he got the job done and took his life.


Maybe he thought he could pull off this fancy maneuver.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/tmimp67/Batmanbomb.gif

[disneyspy]

show's over guys, move on

are you saying theyve been in purgatory long enough?

[EliSnow]

I think that's different...you throwing yourself in front of the train makes you the primary instrument of your own destruction.

In the other cases, it was an exterior force triggered by another person.

Um, a train is an exterior force triggered by another person. And if you have the opportunity to get away from that force, and you didn't, then it's your choice that is the "primary instrument."

That's what happened with Jin, for certain, if not Sayid as well. Again, Jin could have left the sub with Jack. His wife told him to leave to save himself. He chose not to leave. He died, because he chose to.

So, do you think the bomb would have gone off regardless of whether they had tampered with it?

No, because Smokey couldn't be the active force behind their death. That's a different rule and one that we know was in effect.

But like Smokey's actions weren't the trigger to the bomb's explosion, Sawyer's actions was not the "trigger" to Jin or Sayid's death. They each could have done something to stop their deaths, but it was their own choices and actions that led to their deaths.

[CurseoftheBambi]

http://www.chronologicallylost.com

[Rhah]

http://www.chronologicallylost.com

Interesting...

[fezident]

http://www.chronologicallylost.com

Whoa.
Very ambitious. Extremely so. Wow.

[fezident]

So good.
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[Recyclerz]

This lady takes the Ronnie B premise - ponzi storytelling - and runs with it. (http://nymag.com/arts/tv/reviews/66293/)

[PD]

I dunno how many of you read Doc Jensen's columns on Lost, but here was last one:
'Lost': The Island's Story?
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20313460_20393488,00.html

Interesting as usual.

Also he uncovered this old ABC TV Promo from 1969.
Interesting premise....


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[underdog]

A great theory on the show (http://ericknowsitall.com/ultimate-lost-theory/)

[hammersavage]

oh god. ENOUGHHHH

[underdog]

oh god. ENOUGHHHH

Never! (I also find this very humorous coming from a huge Pearl Jam fan)

My warehouse up here is in a flight path, so the sound and sight of of the planes makes me miss Lost.

[Kevin]

oh god. ENOUGHHHH

Thats what she said..

[Furtherman]

A great theory on the show (http://ericknowsitall.com/ultimate-lost-theory/)

Wow... that was awesome... and it works perfectly. I was in the "good/bad" theory, but "time" makes so much more sense. Thanks for posting!

[K.C.]

just took a quick glance, but I like the idea. I'll read through in-depth later.

I think most people viewed it as the source of life. In a lot of ways, his description of time blends that into it. The two are undeniably intertwined.

[fezident]

Nice find!
Interesting stuff indeed. Thanks for posting.

[K.C.]

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4017/127416496.jpg

[Ripboins]

I was fairly frustrated with the amount of unanswered questions that Lost finished the series with and decided to make a short video where I could attempt to answer the unanswerable fueled by PBR and Tequila.


This video is that result:


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hope you like it!

[Furtherman]

Wow... some big bucks spent on the Lost auction this weekend.

LOST Auction Pockets Almost $2 Million; Highlights include DHARMA Van and Faraday’s Journal (http://www.collider.com/2010/08/23/lost-auction-dharma-van-faradays-journal/)

Lost might be over, but it’s certainly not forgotten. This weekend in Santa Monica, ABC and Profiles in History hosted Lost: The Official Show Auction & Exhibit and, according to unofficial math, it took in almost $2 million dollars. That’s double the $1 million estimate Joseph Maddalena, President of Profiles in History, gave us when we previewed the auction.

The Frozen Donkey Wheel -$25,000

Hurley’s Camaro – $20,000

The Swan Station computer – $16,000

Lost pilot script, signed by J.J. Abrams and Damon Lindeloff – $15,000

The Swan Station hatch door – $16,000

Desmond’s fail safe key – $11,000

Lost finale script, signed by Damon Lindeloff and Carlton Cuse – $7,500

1977 Dharma Group photo – $7,000

A 12 Pack of Dharma Beer – $5,000

Hurley’s Empire Strikes Back re-write – $4,250

Claire’s Squirrel Baby – $2,750

25 grand for the donkey wheel. :wacko:

I would LOVE to see what is in Faraday's journal. I hope whoever bought it will let us know.

[disneyspy]

SEASON 6 AT BEST BUY TOMMOROW,i know i said i'd wait til the price came down,but...

[booster11373]

Wow... some big bucks spent on the Lost auction this weekend.

LOST Auction Pockets Almost $2 Million; Highlights include DHARMA Van and Faraday’s Journal (http://www.collider.com/2010/08/23/lost-auction-dharma-van-faradays-journal/)



25 grand for the donkey wheel. :wacko:

I would LOVE to see what is in Faraday's journal. I hope whoever bought it will let us know.

I hope all that money went to some kind of charity

[Furtherman]

http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2010/09/17_benlocke_190x190.jpg

J.J. Abrams Is Now Pitching the New Locke–Ben Linus Show (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/09/locke_ben_jj_abrams_lost.html)

Forget Rizzoli & Isles: Are you ready for Linus & Locke? In news that could cause the Lost fan base to have a synchronized aneurysm, Vulture hears that last week, J.J. Abrams and frequent collaborators Josh Appelbaum and Andre Nemec (Alias, Mission: Impossible 4) began pitching a comedic drama to the networks that would have Michael Emerson and Terry O'Quinn — a.k.a. Benjamin Linus and John Locke/Smokey — playing former black-ops agents.

This could be awesome.

[SP1!]

This could be awesome.
Maybe, if they had told what the island really was about instead of trying to play it off that it was all about the characters the entire time. Since they didnt, there is no way jj gets a second shot at anything for me to waste time watching.

[underdog]

Maybe, if they had told what the island really was about instead of trying to play it off that it was all about the characters the entire time. Since they didnt, there is no way jj gets a second shot at anything for me to waste time watching.

I'm sure he's devastated that he lost you.

[sailor]

I'm sure he's devastated that he lost you.

he's inconsolable.

[Furtherman]

NBC Commits To J.J. Abrams Pilot Starring 'Lost's' Michael Emerson & Terry O'Quinn (http://omg.yahoo.com/news/nbc-commits-to-j-j-abrams-pilot-starring-losts-michael-emerson-terry-o-quinn/47663)

[TheGameHHH]

A little Lost-style getaway (http://curbed.com/archives/2010/09/23/oh-you-were-looking-for-loftstyle-im-sorry-this-is-loststyle.php?o=2)

[fezident]

I'm wondering if anybody here has gone back and rewatched the entire series.

Is it more satisfying the 2nd time, or is it more frustrating? What did you notice this time around?

My girlfriend has never seen the show. I'm about to buy the dvd mega-set, and watch the whole thing from the start. I'm looking forward to it.

[K.C.]

It's obviously less suspenseful.

There are things in relation to foreshadowing that you'll pick up on that you maybe didn't get before.

I think if you liked the character development, you'll like watching it again as it'll give you a little better appreciation of the character arcs.

That said, there are some episodes that you just won't care about. When you get to the middle of Season 1 and you hit the Kate and the briefcase episode, then the Boone episode, then the Michael episode, then the "we've got to catch Ethan" episode....that whole section of it is painfully boring, because so much of it is just filler in hindsight.

I'm sure there will be a similar stretch in Season 2 and early Season 3.

That said, there's plenty of good. I haven't gotten to Season 6 yet, but I've heard rewatching that knowing what the Sideways is and the rules of it actually makes Season 6 a fun rewatch.

[fezident]

Excellence.

I recently saw a scene from season one... on the beach... Locke is playing backgammon with white & black pieces... and explaining to Walt (remember him?) that the game has been played since time began. I thought THAT was a delicious little piece of foreshadow-y storytelling.

I look forward to a lot more of those moments.

[underdog]

That said, there are some episodes that you just won't care about. When you get to the middle of Season 1 and you hit the Kate and the briefcase episode, then the Boone episode, then the Michael episode, then the "we've got to catch Ethan" episode....that whole section of it is painfully boring, because so much of it is just filler in hindsight.

It felt like filler to me, watching them the first time. Seasons 1 and 2 draaaaaaaged along at points. There were way too many episodes, and a lot of filler.

[foodcourtdruide]

It felt like filler to me, watching them the first time. Seasons 1 and 2 draaaaaaaged along at points. There were way too many episodes, and a lot of filler.

Remember when they Kate, Jack and Sawyer were held captive by the others? That was painfully boring and dragged out.

[K.C.]

Remember when they Kate, Jack and Sawyer were held captive by the others? That was painfully boring and dragged out.

See, I don't hate that as much as other blocks of episodes. I get that's slow moving, but you get introduced to Ben, the end of Eko's story arc is good, as is the beginning of the Charlie/Desmond one which starts early that season.

The middle of Season 1 is a tough watch. And a couple parts of Season 2....the beginning isn't necessarily bad, but the fact that it takes three episodes to resolve the Desmond holding Locke at gunpoint this is aggravating.

And then the period of episodes with Kate's horse, Charlie's dreams, etc. isn't great.

The end of Season 2 is awesome. I like pretty much all of Season 3, and the rest after that is fantastic.

If I had to rank:
-Season 5
-Season 3
-Season 4
-Season 6
-Season 1
-Season 2

[fezident]

I am fully expecting there to be long stretches of -seemingly- nonsensical story arcs. That was ALWAYS my perception of the show. "what the FUCK does ANY of this have to do with ANYTHING?"
There was long periods (I.E. Locke picking up a hitchhiker and taking him to a marjuana farm, only to discover that the hitchhiker was an undercover cop....)

But, this time around, I'm looking forward to hopefully finding some meaning in these arcs.

[IamFogHat]

When I watched season 3 I was incredibly frustrated with the first half. But to be honest, when watching it on DVD at your own pace I think it was really good story telling. Now that it's all over and I've rewatched the show at my own pace I think the only drags are random individual episodes like Stranger in a Strange Land and Eggtown for instance. Otherwise it really holds up as a series now that it's all over.

[fezident]

Hey Guys,
On 2nd viewing, were you able to make more sense of Jacob's story? His purpose?

I am very much in the dark about his purpose. Meaning, I don't understand his role. The meaning of his existence is to "protect" the island and yet, on his watch... people have detonated a nuclear bomb and also completed the donkey wheel.
On one hand, he's so amazingly powerful that he can view the personalities and characteristics of every living soul on earth, on the other hand.... if all he needed was Jack, why would he allow (cause?) the deaths of all those Dharma workers, The Others, the other passengers, and the countless others that have come and gone?

Upon 2nd viewing, does Jacob's "plan" seem like a well-constructed strategy? Or does it continue to feel like a writer's room cop-out?

[Brad_Rush]

Hey Guys,
On 2nd viewing, were you able to make more sense of Jacob's story? His purpose?

I am very much in the dark about his purpose. Meaning, I don't understand his role. The meaning of his existence is to "protect" the island and yet, on his watch... people have detonated a nuclear bomb and also completed the donkey wheel.
On one hand, he's so amazingly powerful that he can view the personalities and characteristics of every living soul on earth, on the other hand.... if all he needed was Jack, why would he allow (cause?) the deaths of all those Dharma workers, The Others, the other passengers, and the countless others that have come and gone?

Upon 2nd viewing, does Jacob's "plan" seem like a well-constructed strategy? Or does it continue to feel like a writer's room cop-out?

Overall, I would say cop-out.

But when you start talking about fate and the path between the past and the present, every little or big event could be important to things occurring the way they did (i.e. Bradbury's "A Sound of Thunder")

[Furtherman]

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[disneyspy]

i bought season 6 when it first came out but decided to watch the first five season first,finally up to the last disc,this really was a great series

[disneyspy]

*hit pause* and its cool that in both LOST and CHUCK its cool that the guy that plays charlie is a rock star that gets shot by the nice guy with a tranq gun(chuck and hurley)
*hits play*

[denko]

i bought season 6 when it first came out but decided to watch the first five season first,finally up to the last disc,this really was a great series

i dint watch a single episode until the day after the series ran its finale. i had to see what the hub-ub was about, and i agree. it was a great series. i slammed through it in just ander 90 days, which for a show woth around 120 episodes wasnt bad. i also had the advantge of not having to wait a year between seasons and watched episodes one after another. that siad, i was also at a disadvantage where i didnt really have time to process a lot of what i was seeing from one show to the next. i too amd considering a second run at my own pace to see what i make of it. im guessing it will be the foreshadowing, as was previously mentioned, that will stand out most. like the visit richard pays to locke as a child, and him being there when lock was born, shit like that.

all in all i enjoyed it, very much. best series ever? no. was i pissed about the "unanswered questions"? no. take it for what it is, a tv show, and its a nice little ride.

[fezident]

Denko,
I respect the attitude that you've taken with regards to simply enjoying the show.
But... yeah....you nailed it when you said that powering through episode after episode probably lowered your level of frustration.

You watched it after it was over. You went in KNOWING that it was "amazing" and "amazingly frustrating". And you also were braced with the knowledge that not everything about the show was satifyingly "on the level". You knew, going in, that this show was going to have a lot of unanswered arcs that dealt with religion, faith, sci fi, time travel, and also that show heavily relied on flashbacks & forwards.

For those of us that were onboard from day one, it was quite a journey! We thought we'd check out this strange little show about a bunch of good looking people that were stranded on an island. Period.

When the show first came out, it was actually accused of riding the wave of success created by Survivor (!) rather than being judged on it's own merits as a scripted drama.

[Furtherman]

Lost’ finale redux: What one thing would you change about the last episode? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/celebritology/post/lost-finale-redux-what-one-thing-would-you-change-about-the-last-episode/2011/05/23/AF3czx9G_blog.html)

One year ago today the finale happened. Damn I miss this show.


Some great opinions in the above article, and I tend to agree with the Sayid-Shannon pairing in the sideways. It did seemed forced and un-genuine. Maybe a bit more of the island mythology could have been addressed, but overall I still considering one of the best finales to one of the best shows ever. Still holds up true for me.

[CountryBob]

Lost’ finale redux: What one thing would you change about the last episode? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/celebritology/post/lost-finale-redux-what-one-thing-would-you-change-about-the-last-episode/2011/05/23/AF3czx9G_blog.html)

One year ago today the finale happened. Damn I miss this show.


Some great opinions in the above article, and I tend to agree with the Sayid-Shannon pairing in the sideways. It did seemed forced and un-genuine. Maybe a bit more of the island mythology could have been addressed, but overall I still considering one of the best finales to one of the best shows ever. Still holds up true for me.

I miss Lost :glurps::sad::down::flush:

[fezident]

I think there are many elements of the entire SERIES that need to be re-tooled.
There's a shack in the middle of the jungle, crammed with electronic airplane surveillance equipment AND a person who's job it is to monitor said gear, who we meet exactly once... and then never seen again. And then there's the last minute addition of the Chinese shogun warrior looking dude who lives in the cave/temple. That was useless and also distracting.
The series is full of scenes, characters, and arcs that, in essence, have nothing to do with the series as a whole.

[Furtherman]

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[Rhah]

Hah, nice.

[fezident]

Ha! His name is Kosmo! Good stuff.

[Furtherman]

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[CountryBob]

God - I miss that show!

I will have to do it all over again soon.

[disneyspy]

God - I miss that show!

I will have to do it all over again soon.

i'm so in,i have all the episodes on dvd and wouldnt mind having someone to talk about the show with if we took one night a week to watch,even a dirty redskins fan

[CountryBob]

i'm so in,i have all the episodes on dvd and wouldnt mind having someone to talk about the show with if we took one night a week to watch,even a dirty redskins fan

Hehe - after DeAngelo Hall breaks more of Romo's ribs on Sunday - you might recend this offer...

[disneyspy]

Hehe - after Donte Hall breaks more of Romo's ribs on Sunday - you might recend this offer...

the cowboys are fucked,no dez bryant,miles austin or julius jones,even if broken ribs punctured lung romo plays they dont stand a chance,i've already conceded this game,i'll have to be satisfied with kicking your ass in our fantasy league

[CountryBob]

the cowboys are fucked,no dez bryant,miles austin or julius jones,even if broken ribs punctured lung romo plays they dont stand a chance,i've already conceded this game,i'll have to be satisfied with kicking your ass in our fantasy league

I would like to argue that point but you probably will do it with ease....

[fezident]

It seems that I've been hearing an abnormal amount of Lost talk these last two days.
Did it come up on the show as well? (I'm behind on Audible)

[Furtherman]

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[King Imp]

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That may be the greatest game ever! :clap:

[OGC]

I don't know if anyone is interested in Lost still but this guy took the original series and re-edited it (flashbacks and flash forwards etc) into chronological order and stuck it all into one mega torrent. (http://www.chronologicallylost.com/)

My wife and I started watching it a a couple of weeks ago. We are about 30 episodes in and Oceanic 815 just crashed. Sort of interesting to see things in this way.

[fezident]

I recently rewatched the entire series.
In a lot of ways... .it was less enjoyable the 2nd time around because, this time, I was less taken in by the emotion of the scenes, and more focused on the LOGIC of the series.... of which there is none.
Basically... it just doesn't "work".