Black or African American

[Aggie]

I'm sick of people thinking that saying African American is sensitive and progressive. If you're from Africa and prefer to be called that, it's one thing. But blacks whose families have been in this country for hundreds of years should give it up. Just say black already.

[NateCantDance]

Black.

[A.J.]

Let's see how long it takes for an n-bomb to get dropped here.

[TripleSkeet]

Black.

[JPMNICK]

They call obama the 1st black president, and he is 1st generation outside of Africa, so I am assuming black is the correct word.

[Furtherman]

Newman!!!

[ANC]

Black.

In my opinion, saying African American sounds like you're trying too hard to be PC.

[Aggie]

I mostly here whites use it but some uppity blacks use it too.

[MacVittie]

They're two different things. Nelson Mandela is black, but he's not African American.

[instrument]

Parolee

[NateCantDance]

So what are we supposed to call black people who aren't American?

[sailor]

So what are we supposed to call black people who aren't American?

or having african anscestry.

[PD]

They're two different things. Nelson Mandela is black, but he's not African American.

what about those that come from, say, Jamaica?

Black makes more sense.

[ANC]

So what are we supposed to call black people who aren't American?

or having african anscestry.

Caribbeans?

[TheMojoPin]

Either way seems fine as it doesn't really effect my life in any way, but I personally use "black."

[TheMojoPin]

Caribbeans?

LOTS of African ancestry down there. South America, too.

[TheMojoPin]

what about those that come from, say, Jamaica?

All black people from Jamaica are of descent from African slaves, hence the Pan-Africanist movements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Africanist) supported and started by people like badass mofo Jamaican Marcus Garvey.

The native, non-black populations of Jamaica were essentially wiped out centuries ago.

[Judge Smails]

I mostly here whites use it but some uppity blacks use it too.

Hey! What the sweet fuck has gotten into you? Now I feel uncomfortable. I guess it must be my white guilt. :tongue:

[PD]

All black people from Jamaica are of descent from African slaves. The native, non-black populations of Jamaica were essentially wiped out centuries ago.

I understand that, but most of them would not characterize themselves that way.

[ANC]

All black people from Jamaica are of descent from African slaves, hence the Pan-Africanist movements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-Africanist) supported and started by people like badass mofo Jamaican Marcus Garvey.

The native, non-black populations of Jamaica were essentially wiped out centuries ago.

I understand that, but most of them would not characterize themselves that way.

I think here in the US we think more about our ancestry than other countries do.

[TheMojoPin]

Again, Pan-Africanism. Look it up. That wasn't just involving people in the US. There have been several notable movements to reclaim and recognize African ancestry and identity that encompassed the Western Hemisphere.

[ANC]

Again, Pan-Africanism. Look it up. That wasn't just involving people in the US. There have been several notable movements to reclaim and recognize African ancestry and identity that encompassed the Western Hemisphere.

whoops I quoted you before you added to it. I meant , for example, people from England who's ancestors are from Italy wouldn't normally refer to themselves as Italian-English as we would in America.

[El Mudo]

Afro American

[TheMojoPin]

whoops I quoted you before you added to it. I meant , for example, people from England who's ancestors are from Italy wouldn't normally refer to themselves as Italian-English as we would in America.

Oh, right. I think that's just an extension of the whole "melting pot" thing and being a nation of mutts with a relatively short history.

[Judge Smails]

My favorite African-American story came during the OJ Simpson murder trial when everyone was walking on eggshells about race to begin with.

Christopher Darden (who is black) was talking about a black witness who was a neighbor of Nicole's. He didn't really have much to say, but it was obvious that the only reason the prosecution called him was to show they actually had a black guy on their side.

He was from England and spoke with a thick British accent. Darden, like the prosecution always did, tried to be super-politically correct and began to introduce the guy as:

"An African-Ameri . . . uh. . . British citizen of Afric . . . Umm . . . he's English."

[ANC]

Oh, right. I think that's just an extension of the whole "melting pot" thing and being a nation of mutts with a relatively short history.

exactly.

[TheGameHHH]

I NEVER use the phrase African-American to describe black people, I use it to describe foreigners that live here now but were born in Africa

[Aggie]

I NEVER use the phrase African-American to describe black people, I use it to describe foreigners that live here now but were born in Africa

Like Dave Matthews.

[RoseBlood]

I use Black like 99% of the time.

There's a Jamaican woman here, that I've heard use both "African-American" and "Black". I've used both in her presence and she didn't seem to object to either. It's all sooo confuusssinggg!!!

People are way to sensitive and so long as you're not purposely trying to offend, I don't see the big deal. If you prefer to be called one thing, just politely correct the person.

Black is a race, African-American is a nationality, no???

What about black-puerto ricans, haitians?!?!

Life would be so much easier if I could just call all the non-whites "darkies".
But I've got Sicilian in my blood so I guess I'm a "darkie" too.

[ANC]

Like Dave Matthews.

and Charlize Theron :wub:

[RoseBlood]

Like Dave Matthews.

and Charlize Theron.

*edit* ANC beat me too it.

[TheMojoPin]

Dave Matthews should be called a lot of things.

[MacVittie]

What are we supposed to call Ferguson Jenkins? African-Canadian? Does that term even exist?

http://i1.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/fb/5e/5287_1.JPG

btw, I specifically sought out a picture where he was NOT depicted on the Cubs, specifically because I know Mojo is posting in this thread.

[TheMojoPin]

What are we supposed to call Ferguson Jenkins? African-Canadian? Does that term even exist?

http://i1.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/fb/5e/5287_1.JPG

btw, I specifically sought out a picture where he was NOT depicted on the Cubs, specifically because I know Mojo is posting in this thread.

Damn you.

[Meataball23]

I would go w/ whatever they want to be called.

Although I dont hink you can go wrong saying brotha or sista.

[Snoogans]

i call em Brothas

[Snoogans]

seriously. THIS is the 100% poll? THIS?????

[SatCam]

Colored

[Aggie]

seriously. THIS is the 100% poll? THIS?????

What the hell Hippo Jr. You weren't supposed to say that.

[ANC]

"I blame the Blacks"

"I blame the African-Americans"

[Snoogans]

What the hell Hippo Jr. You weren't supposed to say that.

I just wanted to see who the cock was who fucked it up on purpose. What a shock who it was

[Meataball23]

"I blame the Blacks"

"I blame the African-Americans"

:lol::lol:

[TheGameHHH]

Like Dave Matthews.



I hate that you know me so well

[TripleSkeet]

I use Black like 99% of the time.

There's a Jamaican woman here, that I've heard use both "African-American" and "Black". I've used both in her presence and she didn't seem to object to either. It's all sooo confuusssinggg!!!

People are way to sensitive and so long as you're not purposely trying to offend, I don't see the big deal. If you prefer to be called one thing, just politely correct the person.


I have a simple way of avoiding this. Not giving a fuck about other peoples sensitivites. If Im trying to offend someone, theyll know it. If they get offended on their own, thats their problem.

[Aggie]

Has anyone ever run into a situation where a black person has been offended or asked to be called African American? I just don't understand how it became PC if it doesn't even make sense.

I hate that you know me so well

I really wish I didn't. :sleep:

[TheMojoPin]

Has anyone ever run into a situation where a black person has been offended or asked to be called African American?

No.

[Snoogans]

No.

x2. In fact any black guys who know me would think im being a dick somehow if i DID call them african americans

[TripleSkeet]

No.

This ^

[TheMojoPin]

x2. In fact any black guys who know me would think im being a dick somehow if i DID call them african americans

Pretty much. It's basically something you have to "go out of your way" to say in casual conversation and it just sounds awkward, like you're just trying to sound smart or enlightened.

[DOHO@HOME]

Those people

[Aggie]

On the opposite end of the PC spectrum, it's really odd they never changed the name of the United Negro College Fund. I see they use the initials more now (UNCF). I wonder if it was just too much of a pain to change it.

[TheMojoPin]

On the opposite end of the PC spectrum, it's really odd they never changed the name of the United Negro College Fund. I see they use the initials more now (UNCF). I wonder if it was just too much of a pain to change it.

Basically it would have been detrimental for them to lose the established name recognition. Same for the NAACP.

[RoseBlood]

Instead of Asian-American, can't we just call 'em Snoogans?

[Aggie]

Basically it would have been detrimental for them to lose the established name recognition. Same for the NAACP.

Yeah that makes sense. Thanks for the answers, Dear Mojo.

[Furtherman]

Instead of Asian-American, can't we just call 'em Snoogans?

Well, we don't want to insult them!

[Snoogans]

Instead of Asian-American, can't we just call 'em Snoogans?

:happy:


GET IT. MY EYES DONT OPEN

I was high, not asian

[disneyspy]

im turnin snooganese
i think im turnin snooganese
i really think so
da da daa da da daaa

[Snoogans]

im turnin snooganese
i think im turnin snooganese
i really think so
da da daa da da daaa

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[TheMojoPin]

And when I get excited
My little Snoogans says
Oh baby just you shut your mouth

[TheGameHHH]

I'm starvin, I think I'm totally ordering Snoogans for dinner tonight.

[Snoogans]

I'm starvin, I think I'm totally ordering Snoogans for dinner tonight.

That sounds really bad



Besides, I'm pretty expensive

[TheGameHHH]

That sounds really bad



Besides, I'm pretty expensive

really bad, or really really good?

[Snoogans]

what is this asian fetish you all fuckin have

[Gvac]

My 96 year old grandfather still says "colored."

Is that bad?

I say "black."

[TheMojoPin]

Nobody likes your grandfather.

[Gvac]

Nobody gives a shit about your stupid grandfather.

He could kick your faggoty ass!

Whoops.

Sorry Fez.

P.S. - not fast enough with that edit button, Mojo

[ToiletCrusher]

What if you said, "look at that black colored guy" ??

[TheMojoPin]

He could kick your faggoty ass!

Whoops.

Sorry Fez.

P.S. - not fast enough with that edit button, Mojo

And here I was feeling bad for him.

FUCK YOUR GODDAMN GRANDPA.

[SatCam]

I'm starvin, I think I'm totally ordering Snoogans for dinner tonight.

http://www.ronfez.net/gallery//watermark.php?file=4997

[cougarjake13]

I'm sick of people thinking that saying African American is sensitive and progressive. If you're from Africa and prefer to be called that, it's one thing. But blacks whose families have been in this country for hundreds of years should give it up. Just say black already.

x2




i dont hear any blacks in european countries calling themsevles afro europeans


or afro spainards, afro german etc

[Devo37]

So what are we supposed to call black people who aren't American?

a few years back, when there were riots in France after a black guy got killed by cops, CNN was referring to the rioters as "French African-Americans". :blink:

i don't know anyone who uses the term "African American" in real-life. only people in the media or people giving speeches say it. everyone else i know (including black people) just says "black".

[JohnGacysCrawlSpace]

Defendants
Pickaninnies
Shines
Porch Monkeys
Canadians
Golfers
Mondays
Stump-jumpers
Chain rockers
Non-swimmers
Kool smokers
Athletic Scholarship Winners
Italians

[Dash77]

Just use black... It's how I get described all the time and don't find it even close to offensive..

[ecobag2]

I'm finding a mixed thing on this.

Some would go one way and others the other.

Let's not fool ourselves - none of African heritage appreciate a slur.

I'm thinking the whole bleep-American thing is contrived though. We're all fucking Americans in the end - unless you're among the scores of illegals in this country fucking things up - ya know like "hey - you're a shithead rapist and shit?? why not go to the US and fuck it all up -... or we'll kill you here"?

[TripleSkeet]

My 96 year old grandfather still says "colored."

Is that bad?

I say "black."

My grandfather used to refer to them as tootsoons.

[A.J.]

Those people

Are you one of my relatives?

[Aggie]

Your grandparents are racist! Mine didn't even bat an eye when I brought home a brotha.

I remembered a book I read a few years back by a black author and I was trying to remember if he used black or African American:

http://brotherpeacemaker.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/40-million-dollar-slaves.jpg

I can't believe this poll would have been 100%. You suck Mudo.

[Dude!]

i took my grandmother
to the bank recently

they have a very nice
black teller named "Taneesha"

Taneesha greets my grandmother
and grandmother looks at me and says
"Is that LaToya"?

i was humiliated

[CountryBob]

I say black - until a black person tells me what they prefer and then I would call them that.

[grlNIN]

Depends, if i am in a regular conversation "black" but i always get somewhat uncomfortable when having to describe someone who is black in front of another black person, so then i say "African American". This typically happens at my job, where i actually work with a younger woman who is from Jamaica.

One of the other nurses is from Puerto Rico and she refers to whites as "Caucasians" and i find that a little off putting that she just doesn't say white.

[Dude!]

Depends, if i am in a regular conversation "black" but i always get somewhat uncomfortable when having to describe someone who is black in front of another black person, so then i say "African American". This typically happens at my job, where i actually work with a younger woman who is from Jamaica.

One of the other nurses is from Puerto Rico and she refers to whites as "Caucasians" and i find that a little off putting that she just doesn't say white.

interestingly,
a woman from Jamaica
is not "African American"

[grlNIN]

interestingly,
a woman from Jamaica
is not "African American"

I don't come across many interactions with her that involve pointing out or referring to the obvious color of her skin.

"Hey Georgette...why you African Americans love eating that jerk chicken?!"

[underdog]

interestingly,
a woman from Jamaica
is not "African American"

Technically, she probably is.

[Dude!]

Technically, she probably is.

How so, jerk chicken?

[underdog]

How so, jerk chicken?

Her ancestry probably would trace back to Africa.

[Aggie]

Her ancestry probably would trace back to Africa.

It's the American part that doesn't make sense, silly!

[Dude!]

It's the American part that doesn't make sense, silly!

thank you

[underdog]

It's the American part that doesn't make sense, silly!

thank you

But she's in America now.

Actually, I'm retarded and missed that part.

[Aggie]

But she's in America now.

Actually, I'm retarded and missed that part.

You'd think you'd know a little more about your own race.

[strawberrypop]

Jamaica is part of the Americas, no?

[Aggie]

Jamaica is part of the Americas, no?

What other country that is part of the Americas calls themselves Americans? Just us.

[underdog]

You'd think you'd know a little more about your own race.

I prefer the term African-black.

[boosterp]

So does this mean I can legally use German-American again?

[Aggie]

I prefer the term African-black.

I think I'll just call you Darkness.

http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pranks/images/chappelle/chappelle-001.jpg

[Aggie]

Black, African American or Negro

Those will be your choices on the 2010 Census

http://wcbstv.com/national/negro.census.form.2.1409469.html

[nate1000]

But what if I like small asses?

[nate1000]

Mine didn't even bat an eye when I brought home a brotha.


That's 'cause momma's got some hist'ry and daddy's on the down low.

[sr71blackbird]

I say Black. No one gets offended.
I think it can be taken offensively depending on how you emphasize the 'ahhh' portion of the word. Say black, and not blaaack.
Pronounce the 'a' as in 'flat'.

[mikeyboy]

Who says "blaaack"?

[Suspect Chin]

"Negro" is the choice for older black people who were alive in the 50s and 60s.

[opie's twisted balls]

I've always been partial to jiggaboo. Sounds very happy :)

[midwestjeff]

I call mine "boy" or "girl".

If you give them names your kids will want to keep them.

[opie's twisted balls]

If you give them names your kids will want to keep them.

Well, in many ways,
a good mongrel dog is like a Negro.

You get to know it.

Often, you get to love it.
It is of no particular use...

...but you keep it around
because you think it loves you.
http://i49.tinypic.com/2romavl.jpg

[Dude!]

"Negro" is the choice for older black people who were alive in the 50s and 60s.

i thought that would be
'colored'

[A.J.]

"Negro" is the choice for older black people who were alive in the 50s and 60s.

i thought that would be
'colored'

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP),

[Aggie]

National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP),


United Negro College Fund (UNCF)

Seriously, don't you think the older generation changed with the times? Do people think they really PREFER it? And there should just be one choice anyway.

[Dude!]

United Negro College Fund (UNCF)

Seriously, don't you think the older generation changed with the times? Do people think they really PREFER it? And there should just be one choice anyway.

the term negro
is officially sanctioned
by Harry Reid