Mt. Rushmore Of American Music

[Gvac]

Four faces of American music that changed it forever - just like the real Mt. Rushmore.

No "I'm making all 6 members of this band count as one face" bullshit.

FOUR FUCKING FACES.

NO MORE.

TRUE ICONS.

NOT who you think is "good" but WHO IS ICONIC.

[IMSlacker]

Sinatra
Elvis
Dylan
M J

[HBox]

I don't think Bob Dylan is iconic enough to the public at large to warrant a spot. Otherwise I agree.

[A.J.]

Louis Armstrong
Sinatra
Elvis
Michael Jackson

[TheMojoPin]

Muddy Waters, Elvis, Michael Jackson, Bob Dylan.

In that order.

[Gvac]

Louis Armstrong
Sinatra
Elvis
Michael Jackson

You really fucking suck.

Seriously.

[TheMojoPin]

I love Sinatra, but why does he belong up there?

[NateCantDance]

Willie Nelson.
Dolly Parton and her tits.

That's my 4.

[hammersavage]

Elvis, Dylan, Hendrix, Jackson

[Gvac]

I love Sinatra, but why does he belong up there?

Because we're talking traffic stopping MEGA stars.

Guys (or gals) who got MOBBED in their prime and everyone in the country knew who they were.

Muddy Waters, unfortunately, never enjoyed that kind of success.

[DarkHippie]

Steven Foster
WC Handy
Lead Belly
Woody Guthrie

[A.J.]

You really fucking suck.

Seriously.

I love Sinatra, but why does he belong up there?

Your criteria was Four faces of American music that changed it forever - just like the real Mt. Rushmore.

Let's see: Armstrong practically invented jazz
Sinatra changed singing and lyrical interpretation
Elvis and Michael aren't iconic?

[Gvac]

Let's see: Armstrong practically invented jazz
Sinatra changed singing and lyrical interpretation
Elvis and Michael aren't iconic?

I said you suck because you literally took my exact 4.

I hate when you read my mind.

[EliSnow]

Because we're talking traffic stopping MEGA stars.

Guys (or gals) who got MOBBED in their prime and everyone in the country knew who they were.

Muddy Waters, unfortunately, never enjoyed that kind of success.

Wait. Is the criteria their influence on American music or their popularity?

[A.J.]

I said you suck because you literally took my exact 4.

I hate when you read my mind.

Ohhhhhhhh. Don't hate -- appreciate!

[Gvac]

Wait. Is the criteria their influence on American music or their popularity?

Pop icons. Superstars.

Ron just said "If they showed up at Disneyworld they'd get mobbed."

That kind of popularity PLUS wide ranging influence.

[TheMojoPin]

Because we're talking traffic stopping MEGA stars.

Guys (or gals) who got MOBBED in their prime and everyone in the country knew who they were.

Muddy Waters, unfortunately, never enjoyed that kind of success.

Well, then this fucking sucks.

You know why?

Because by those criteria Garth Brooks HAS to be up there.

No thanks.

I turn my back on this monument.

[DarkHippie]

Your criteria was

Let's see: Armstrong practically invented jazz
Sinatra changed singing and lyrical interpretation
Elvis and Michael aren't iconic

Armstrong did not practically invent jazz. not even close
sinatra was very popular, but didn't really change music
Elvis is a good example.
MJ . . . I wouldn't want a monument to a pedophile

[dino_electropolis]

Muddy Waters, Elvis, Michael Jackson, Bob Dylan.

In that order.

PLEASE get Dylan off this mountain.

Great lyricist, fine.

But lets not get ahead of ourselves....you dont see me putting Jim Morrison up there.

My easy 3 are Elvis, Sinatra, and Jacko.....the fourth is debatable, but certainly not Dylan.

[hammersavage]

Well, then this fucking sucks.

You can only pick 4 New Kids then. Who you leaving off?

[MacVittie]

Mt. Rushmore of Short Jews

Woody Allen
Paul Simon
Jason Alexander
and, of course, Jason Schwartzmann

[foodcourtdruide]

Gaye instead of Sinatra?

[TheMojoPin]

PLEASE get Dylan off this mountain.

Great lyricist, fine.

But lets not get ahead of ourselves....you dont see me putting Jim Morrison up there.

I should hope not, since he had all the writing ability of a mopey emo in 7th grade creative writing class.

[DarkHippie]

PLEASE get Dylan off this mountain.

Great lyricist, fine.

But lets not get ahead of ourselves....you dont see me putting Jim Morrison up there.

My easy 3 are Elvis, Sinatra, and Jacko.....the fourth is debatable, but certainly not Dylan.

I think you are underestimating the influence that Dylan had on popular music. at the very least, he should be there for introducing the beatles to weed.

But Dylan was the first performer to combine Folk and Blues with Rock, pretty much defining much of what we now call 'classic rock'

[EliSnow]

Because we're talking traffic stopping MEGA stars.

Guys (or gals) who got MOBBED in their prime and everyone in the country knew who they were.

Muddy Waters, unfortunately, never enjoyed that kind of success.


Was Dylan as big popularity wise like Elvis, Sinatra and Jackson?

[dino_electropolis]

Muddy Waters, Elvis, Michael Jackson, Bob Dylan.

In that order.

I should hope not, since he had all the writing ability of a mopey emo in 7th grade creative writing class.

Yes, we are all familiar with your disdain for the Lizard King.

My point was, that, as per the original post, i was thinking of music icons, not who i personally like. Therefore (and this is a bit of a non sequiter) Dylan can suck my ballz.

Its kinda like if we had Mt Rushmore of RonFez.net....i would probably put your mug up there, but i wouldnt be happy about it!:tongue:

[DarkHippie]

I should hope not, since he had all the writing ability of a mopey emo in 7th grade creative writing class.

now thats just silly. That's like the exact opposite of reality. Is Alan Scott the Green Lantern on your planet?

[TheMojoPin]

Yes, we are all familiar with your disdain for the Lizard King.

My point was, that, as per the original post, i was thinking of music icons, not who i personally like. Therefore (and this is a bit of a non sequiter) Dylan can suck my ballz.

Its kinda like if we had Mt Rushmore of RonFez.net....i would probably put your mug up there, but i wouldnt be happy about it!:tongue:

I'm not a huge fan of Dylan, but his influence is gigantic. He is without a doubt an American music icon in that regard.

[realmenhatelife]

To give it a different spin I think you could say
Lou Reed, Joey Ramone, Ian Mackaye, Kurt Kobain

I'm obviously not taking the 'traffic stopper' criteria of icon.

[dino_electropolis]

now thats just silly. That's like the exact opposite of reality. Is Alan Scott the Green Lantern on your planet?

Steer clear of this conversation with Mojo...i have done it many times in the past....it only leads to tears and anal fissures.

[DarkHippie]

I'm not a huge fan of Dylan, but his influence is gigantic. He is without a doubt an American music icon in that regard.

wait, didnt you just call him a mopey emo kid?

[Gvac]

Was Dylan as big popularity wise like Elvis, Sinatra and Jackson?

Nope.

A hard core audience, and critics and other musicians adored him.

He was never the kind of pop icon that drew a mob wherever he went though.

[TheMojoPin]

I don't think enough people spotted this when I said it on the first page...by the criteria given, Garth Brooks HAS to be on this monument.

That's horrifying.

[TheMojoPin]

wait, didnt you just call him a mopey emo kid?

No, that was in regards to Morrison. It seemed like Dino was equating Dylan and Morrison as lyricists, which is just...odd.

[foodcourtdruide]

I don't think enough people spotted this when I said it on the first page...by the criteria given, Garth Brooks HAS to be on this monument.

That's horrifying.

Absolutely, and Mariah Carey may be up there.

[Gvac]

Absolutely, and Mariah Carey may be up there.

Ron says Madonna probably belongs there.

That's sad, but probably true.

[EliSnow]

Nope.

A hard core audience, and critics and other musicians adored him.

He was never the kind of pop icon that drew a mob wherever he went though.

Right. So by your criteria, why is he in the Four? EDIT: sorry. Thought you had listed him

[DarkHippie]

Nope.

A hard core audience, and critics and other musicians adored him.

He was never the kind of pop icon that drew a mob wherever he went though.

so are we talking about popularity of influence? If it was influence, then any list without WC Handy is moot. He actually invented the blues (after hearing a guy at a train station playing his guitar with a knife over the frets, slack-key style)

[Gvac]

Louis Armstrong
Sinatra
Elvis
Michael Jackson

Right. So by your criteria, why is he in the Four?

He's not.

And come to think of it, I'm not sure I could include Louis Armstrong either.

[DarkHippie]

No, that was in regards to Morrison. It seemed like Dino was equating Dylan and Morrison as lyricists, which is just...odd.

yeah, they are polar opposites. still morrison isn't exactly bad, he's just not that good.

[MacVittie]

To give it a different spin I think you could say
Lou Reed, Joey Ramone, Ian Mackaye, Kurt Kobain

I'm obviously not taking the 'traffic stopper' criteria of icon.

I'm going to take that angle and give you this:

Ben Weasel, Joe Queer, Fat Mike, and Tim Armstrong

[dino_electropolis]

He's not.

And come to think of it, I'm not sure I could include Louis Armstrong either.

Trade in Armstrong for Ray Charles.

[RhinoinMN]

So when this thing is completed, can we nuke the fuck out of it?

Its seems to be iconic, but I wouldn't be proud of it.

[EliSnow]

He's not.

Sorry. I misread AJ/your choices.

[dino_electropolis]

No, that was in regards to Morrison. It seemed like Dino was equating Dylan and Morrison as lyricists, which is just...odd.

Nah, wasnt really equating the two on a lyrical level, but i can see how that was inferred from my post.

But as far as "pop icon", bigger than life persona's, i think morrison gives it a good run, but i am sensible enough to keep him off the mountain.

[TheMojoPin]

Nah, wasnt really equating the two on a lyrical level, but i can see how that was inferred from my post.

But as far as "pop icon", bigger than life persona's, i think morrison gives it a good run, but i am sensible enough to keep him off the mountain.

And if we're going by this popularity criteria, Dyaln has no place up there, either.

[DarkHippie]

Nah, wasnt really equating the two on a lyrical level, but i can see how that was inferred from my post.

But as far as "pop icon", bigger than life persona's, i think morrison gives it a good run, but i am sensible enough to keep him off the mountain.

the thing morrison should get credit for is taking mediocre lyrics and making them sound sexy as fuck. As a singer, he was amazing.

[dino_electropolis]

the thing morrison should get credit for is taking mediocre lyrics and making them sound sexy as fuck. As a singer, he was amazing.

Agreed.

I think he could yelp out a phone book and make it sound intriguing.....and that says alot about his overall performance.

[Dougie Brootal]

going a little off the beaten path here...
robert johnson, john lennon, eddie van halen, kurt cobain

[Gvac]

going a little off the beaten path here...
robert johnson, john lennon, eddie van halen, kurt cobain

AMERICAN!!!

And in his "height" of popularity, I'd say less than 0.1% of the American public knew who Robert Johnson was.

[dino_electropolis]

going a little off the beaten path here...
robert johnson, john lennon, eddie van halen, kurt cobain

yeah, not so much an american.





And van halen is a streeeeetch

[realmenhatelife]

I'm going to take that angle and give you this:

Ben Weasel, Joe Queer, Fat Mike, and Tim Armstrong

Ben Weasel is a yes, to me Joe Queer is just diet Ben Weasel and by that token could use Dr. Frank. I'd only want the first half of Fat Mike or Tim Armstrong's career. How about 6 months of the year Tim has to let Jesse from Op Ivy up there, and Fat Mike has to wear a Descendants T Shirt.

Actually I dont know what I was thinking, Milo trumps Queer.


But this is only a pop punk Rushmore, if it gets expanded to punk wide it gets a lot harder.

[dino_electropolis]

Hendrix, anyone?

[EliSnow]

What about Hank Williams?

[Dougie Brootal]

AMERICAN!!!

And in his "height" of popularity, I'd say less than 0.1% of the American public knew who Robert Johnson was.

this is my monument, fuck that bullshit!

and lennon belongs to all of the world!

[ToiletCrusher]

Muddy Waters, Elvis, Michael Jackson, Bob Dylan.

In that order.

Holy shit.

I couldn't agree with you more.

[JerseyRich]

going a little off the beaten path here...
robert johnson, john lennon, eddie van halen, kurt cobain


AM

ER

IC

AN!!!!!

[Dougie Brootal]

yeah, not so much an american.





And van halen is a streeeeetch

youre right, a fuckin amazing pinky stretch! you play guitar, you know what im talkin about!!!!!

[Dougie Brootal]

AM

ER

IC

AN!!!!!

this is my monument, fuck that bullshit!

and lennon belongs to all of the world!


i dont care what you think, you filthy limey.

[dino_electropolis]

youre right, a fuckin amazing pinky stretch! you play guitar, you know what im talkin about!!!!!

like gettin to the 12th fret while barring on the 7th......tough stretch, but oh so nice if u get it!

[A.J.]

so are we talking about popularity of influence? If it was influence, then any list without WC Handy is moot. He actually invented the blues (after hearing a guy at a train station playing his guitar with a knife over the frets, slack-key style)

Who wouldn't want a Handy?

[Dougie Brootal]

like gettin to the 12th fret while barring on the 7th......tough stretch, but oh so nice if u get it!

YEAH!:clap:

[DarkHippie]

AMERICAN!!!

And in his "height" of popularity, I'd say less than 0.1% of the American public knew who Robert Johnson was.

but his influence is hard to match

[Dude!]

man
you guys have zero
sense of history

michael jackson?

if he hadn't died
yesterday
no one would have
thought to put him
on this lame monument

how about

stephen foster
john phillips sousa
george gershwin
elvis

[PhishHead]

Bash away:

Jerry Garcia
Louis Armstrong (I really wanted Miles but I think louis had more of an effect)
Jimi Hendrix
Willie Nelson

I wanted others but whatever.

[DarkHippie]

man
you guys have zero
sense of history

michael jackson?

if he hadn't died
yesterday
no one would have
thought to put him
on this lame monument

how about

stephen foster
john phillips sousa
george gershwin
elvis

i like these, except for Sousa, because his influence is pretty limited. I mean, Handy was influenced by him, but it didnt carry on past him. In a way sousa is diametically opposed to blues and jazz

[Gvac]

You guys hate following rules, huh?

[DarkHippie]

like gettin to the 12th fret while barring on the 7th......tough stretch, but oh so nice if u get it!

fuck that, just slide or bend up from the 10th. more interesting timbre too.

[ToiletCrusher]

You guys hate following rules, huh?

I pretend that rules were never written. :smoke:

[PhishHead]

You guys hate following rules, huh?

I follow my own rules.

Why so touchy today? No coffee??

[Gvac]

I follow my own rules.

Why so touchy today? No coffee??

Worse.

Migraine.

Came home from work because my head is POUNDING and I'm puking.

[ToiletCrusher]

Worse.

Migraine.

Came home from work because my head is POUNDING and I'm puking.

Computer screens and migraines can lead to vertigo.

[PhishHead]

Worse.

Migraine.

Came home from work because my head is POUNDING and I'm puking.

that is sexy, want me to come over?

[Gvac]

that is sexy, want me to come over?

If you really loved me you would have been here already.

[ANC]

Hendrix, anyone?

x10000000

although I think Gvac would disagree... :down:

[RhinoinMN]

I just want to dynamite this fucking thing.

[dino_electropolis]

fuck that, just slide or bend up from the 10th. more interesting timbre too.

yeah, but im talking about gettin that sweet harmonic, that is possible only with the soft delicate touch of the pinky!

[PhishHead]

If you really loved me you would have been here already.

I am scared to go to non-bergen county areas. :down:

[Gvac]

I am scared to go to non-bergen county areas. :down:

So hurtful.

[Dude!]

i thought that only girls
got migraine headaches

[JPMNICK]

how has no one put a rap act up here? I mean maybe it is not what you listen to, but the early stuff has basically influenced the last 20+ years of music. If we have to go solo, I might say Rakim

[EliSnow]

how has no one put a rap act up here? I mean maybe it is not what you listen to, but the early stuff has basically influenced the last 20+ years of music. If we have to go solo, I might say Rakim

Is there any act in rap/hip-hop that has the influence and popularity of Elvis or Michael Jackson?

[ToiletCrusher]

Is there any act in rap/hip-hop that has the influence and popularity of Elvis or Michael Jackson?

Dre.

But, we never said that the Mt. Rushmore of American music had to encompass all genres of music.

[Gvac]

The original concept was that these would be men or women who children, teenagers, parents, and grandparents knew and recognized.

Larger than life figures.

Like Elvis Presley in the 50's.

I know you guys think Kurt Cobain and Dr. Dre were huge, and in a sense they were. But do you really think little kids and grandmas knew who the fuck they were, even at the height of their popularity?

[ToiletCrusher]

The original concept was that these would be men or women who children, teenagers, parents, and grandparents knew and recognized.

Larger than life figures.

Like Elvis Presley in the 50's.

I know you guys think Kurt Cobain and Dr. Dre were huge, and in a sense they were. But do you really think little kids and grandmas knew who the fuck they were, even at the height of their popularity?

In the early 90s, who didn't become aware of certain rap and/or hip hop artists with all the media attention they got?

Tipper Gore made it big news for some time.

[EliSnow]

Dre.

Really? Eminem is more popular than him. I don't think he has the iconic status with the American public. With rap/hip-hop fans, but not with the mainstream.

[JPMNICK]

The original concept was that these would be men or women who children, teenagers, parents, and grandparents knew and recognized.

Larger than life figures.

Like Elvis Presley in the 50's.

I know you guys think Kurt Cobain and Dr. Dre were huge, and in a sense they were. But do you really think little kids and grandmas knew who the fuck they were, even at the height of their popularity?

My great grandma who only spoke italian was 85 and knew who MC Hammer was. He was on Regis, Letterman, all the major shows. His music was in commercials, he was always on TV. She did not listen to his music obviously, but she did not listen to elvis either knew who he was.

[TheMojoPin]

Really? Eminem is more popular than him. I don't think he has the iconic status with the American public. With rap/hip-hop fans, but with the mainstream.

Honestly, I think in terms of the broadest name recognition it's probably Snoop.

[Gvac]

In the early 90s, who didn't become aware of certain rap and/or hip hop artists with all the media attention they got?

Tipper Gore made it big news for some time.

Show your grandma or grandpa a picture of some of those rap guys and ask "who is this?"

We're talking HUGE. Like Muhammad Ali.

[DiabloSammich]

I don't think enough people spotted this when I said it on the first page...by the criteria given, Garth Brooks HAS to be on this monument.

That's horrifying.


That's exactly who came to mind when they started laying down the parameters, and unfortunately he met or exceeded every one. He was a global icon for about ten years, and still has heat overseas. That's when I stopped giving a shit about this stupid monument.

[DiabloSammich]

Bash away:

Bob Weir
The guy from Dashboard Confessional
That other guy from Dashboard Confessional
Lady Gaga

I wanted others but whatever.



Damn, Phish, expand your horizons a little.

[PhishHead]

Damn, Phish, expand your horizons a little.

I can't I mean those 4 are just amazing!!

Shouldn't you be out making sure your mexicans are working?

[EliSnow]

Honestly, I think in terms of the broadest name recognition it's probably Snoop.

Again, bigger than Eminem? Wouldn't you say Eminem has more? Mainly because he was white?

Not that I think Eminem should be on the monument.

[DiabloSammich]

I can't I mean those 4 are just amazing!!

Shouldn't you be out making sure your mexicans are working?




I don't pay overtime, so when they hit their 40 I tell them to hit the bricks.


Funny part is they hit their 40 yesterday about 3:30, but I told them they didn't hit it until lunchtime today. I rock!

[ToiletCrusher]

Again, bigger than Eminem? Wouldn't you say Eminem has more? Mainly because he was white?

Not that I think Eminem should be on the monument.

I understand that you are listening to Eminem right now. :laugh:

But, I was simply speaking of the decade. The 90s wouldn;t have had the rap or hip hop if Dre wasn't around. He came under fire (no gun joke intended) a ton for what he did.

[PhishHead]

I don't pay overtime, so when they hit their 40 I tell them to hit the bricks.


Funny part is they hit their 40 yesterday about 3:30, but I told them they didn't hit it until lunchtime today. I rock!

You mastermind!!

[EliSnow]

I understand that you are listening to Eminem right now. :laugh:

But, I was simply speaking of the decade. The 90s wouldn;t have had the rap or hip hop if Dre wasn't around. He came under fire (no gun joke intended) a ton for what he did.

No I'm not listening to Eminem.

And I understand Dre's musical influence, but I think you're not thinking of the second critiera. Massive mainstream popularity.

[ToiletCrusher]

No I'm not listening to Eminem.

And I understand Dre's musical influence, but I think you're not thinking of the second critiera. Massive mainstream popularity.

We need a second thread for this then. Mt. Rushmore of American Music by genre.

[EliSnow]

We need a second thread for this then. Mt. Rushmore of American Music by genre.

Think of Mount Rushmore. There's not a Mount Rushmore for Presidents of the early 1800's and presidents of the late 1800's.

Or democratic presidents or Republican. There is one and only one.

[ToiletCrusher]

Think of Mount Rushmore. There's not a Mount Rushmore for Presidents of the early 1800's and presidents of the late 1800's.

Or democratic presidents or Republican. There is one and only one.

But it was made during those times.

Why can't we make one for our times?

[EliSnow]

But it was made during those times.

Why can't we make one for our times?

I don't think there's been one president since who should be on such a monument.

[ToiletCrusher]

I don't think there's been one president since who should be on such a monument.

Given a chance to make a change?

I imagine there would have been a few.

[Snoogans]

Miley Cyrus, britney Spears, Mark Whalberg and Simon Cowel

[TheMojoPin]

I don't think there's been one president since who should be on such a monument.

There's already one president too many on the first one.

[EliSnow]

Given a chance to make a change?

I imagine there would have been a few.

Who?

[A.J.]

There's already one president too many on the first one.

That must be why Teddy never wins.

http://presidentsrace.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/teddy-segway-presidents-race.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

That must be why Teddy never wins.

http://presidentsrace.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/teddy-segway-presidents-race.jpg

Damn right.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Not simple, but not difficult.You have to give consideration to the prime of the star. And their impact. Elvis even though I honestly wonder about his worldwide appeal at the time his impact more than makes up for his spot. He's the highest selling artist ever. He's in solid. Elvis did one important thing. He broke down doors. He made music sexy way before Justin Timberlake.

Michael Jackson has the massive appeal no one had seen or will probably ever see again in music. Elvis was great, no denying that. But Michael Jackson is only considered great because there's no real adjective that fits beyond the word great. Even Elvis would tell you this. His selling power wasn't quite up to Elvis' but then he has a much smaller catalog. And Elvis can't say he had the biggest selling album of all time, then turn around and say he did it twice.

These two men are in solidly. No one can take away their style, impact and influence.

The one thing that is important is this is American music. And sadly the other forces at work here, like The British who took the ball and ran with it for years much better don't count.

So we take American music to it's roots. One figure in my book I can't deny his respect is a man that basically invented his own genre of music. Like Elvis started at Sun Records, and made over 100 hit singles.If Michael Jackson is a master for crossing over into pop and rock from r&b Johnny Cash gets credit for crossing over into everything. The man sang, the man rapped before rap was born, the man influenced every genre of music. If it was nothing more than by being in all black. Johnny Cash's influence in American music is unmistakable.

Since we are basing it on American music, Madonna's influence on American music is strange because as most of us are men we didn't witness it firsthand. Ask any woman performing today and she's on the list somewhere. She made music a business model practically everyone follows today. She generated over 1.2 billion in just the first half of her career. She was just as 80's as Michael Jackson, and just as stageworthy. Although Madonna innovated and changed and adapted better than anyone. Michael Jackson professed his love for the youth, Madonna was one of them. Madonna may not span the generational lines like Jackson, but her audience grew up with her. Second top-selling female artist in the United States with sixty-three million certified albums.She has sold over two-hundred million albums worldwide. In 2008, she surpassed Elvis Presley as the artist with most top ten hits in the history of Billboard Hot 100.

[SonicAssault]

Buddy Holly
Jimi Hendrix
Neil Diamond
Bruce Springsteen

All very popular and influential in their genres (even though I know obviously Dylan influenced Springsteen)

[Snoogans]

Damn right.

way better:
http://rowlandsoffice.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/randall-simon.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

way better:
http://rowlandsoffice.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/randall-simon.jpg

Disqualified due to Milwuakee-ness.

[bradleyjerome]

So we take American music to it's roots. One figure in my book I can't deny his respect is a man that basically invented his own genre of music. Like Elvis started at Sun Records, and made over 100 hit singles.If Michael Jackson is a master for crossing over into pop and rock from r&b Johnny Cash gets credit for crossing over into everything. The man sang, the man rapped before rap was born, the man influenced every genre of music. If it was nothing more than by being in all black. Johnny Cash's influence in American music is unmistakable.
A bit surprised that nobody besides you has mentioned Johnny Cash as a possibility.

[FezsAssistant]

Let's see: Armstrong practically invented jazz
Sinatra changed singing and lyrical interpretation


Armstrong did more than that. He actually changed singing and lyrical interpretation (not to mention what he did instrumentally, socially, international ambassador, etc, etc etc).
He changed and started everything.

I don't know who the other 3 should be, but Louis Armstrong belongs on the list.

[Gvac]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000264I.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[frye hole]

Johnny
Joey
Dee Dee
Tommy


Lock it up!

[lleeder]

Quadrophenia had four faces but sadly he's British.

[~Katja~]

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=117&pictureid=1670

[Snoogans]

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=117&pictureid=1670

wow. Thats pretty tough to agrue

[Ritalin]

I don't care about your silly rules of popularity or fucking grandmothers recognizing people. If you're doing something named "Mt. Rushmore of American Music" and Miles Davis isn't on it, then your little Mount Rushmore is the 16th hole of a putt putt golf course.

And now I have to turn my back.

[~Katja~]

I don't care about your silly rules of popularity or fucking grandmothers recognizing people. If you're doing something named "Mt. Rushmore of American Music" and Miles Davis isn't on it, then your little Mount Rushmore is the 16th hole of a putt putt golf course.

And now I have to turn my back.

you know, browsing this thread there are only a few more that would also be recognized internationally... so yes, Miles Davis would be, as much as Armstrong... but there were a few mentioned that nobody outside of the US would ever recognize

[TheMojoPin]

I don't care about your silly rules of popularity or fucking grandmothers recognizing people. If you're doing something named "Mt. Rushmore of American Music" and Miles Davis isn't on it, then your little Mount Rushmore is the 16th hole of a putt putt golf course.

And now I have to turn my back.

It's the "Mt. Rushmore of LISTENABLE American Music." That leaves out Miles.

[MacVittie]

Ben Weasel is a yes, to me Joe Queer is just diet Ben Weasel and by that token could use Dr. Frank. I'd only want the first half of Fat Mike or Tim Armstrong's career. How about 6 months of the year Tim has to let Jesse from Op Ivy up there, and Fat Mike has to wear a Descendants T Shirt.

Actually I dont know what I was thinking, Milo trumps Queer.


But this is only a pop punk Rushmore, if it gets expanded to punk wide it gets a lot harder.

Pop punk is my bread and butter. I was considering Dr. Frank and Billie Joe, then it could be a Lookout! Records mt rushmore.

[Hilge]

I can't believe nobody has even mentioned SLEEVES :dry:

[hedges]

Muddy Waters
Miles Davis
Bob Dylan
Elvis Presley

I think Hank Williams deserves a spot on there too.

[Ritalin]

It's the "Mt. Rushmore of LISTENABLE American Music." That leaves out Miles.

I'm sure plenty of people would say the same about Dylan, right?

And you can't enjoy Miles Davis? Poor Mojo.

Poor Middlebrow Mojo.

[samechick]

Not simple, but not difficult...

I support this even though Madonna makes me cringe.

[realmenhatelife]

Pop punk is my bread and butter. I was considering Dr. Frank and Billie Joe, then it could be a Lookout! Records mt rushmore.

So a Rushmore where no one gets paid.

[TheMojoPin]

And you can't enjoy Miles Davis? Poor Mojo.

Poor mentally stable Mojo.

Fixed.

[A.J.]

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=117&pictureid=1670

The irony is that would be the most durable nose that Michael would ever have.

[~Katja~]

The irony is that would be the most durable nose that Michael would ever have.

I am sure it would be the first to fall victim to corrosion... followed by Madonna's cone tits