Michael Jackson...DEAD!!

[RingWraith]

One video of his I really liked was Jam. When hes playing basketball with Michael Jordan.

I forgot about that video. It actually was a good song/video.

[grlNIN]

I think Michael Jackson was his alter ego. I am watching the videos now as i am doing stuff around the room and i just stops and think "Really?".

Just watch the "Scream" video it is so so so so so bad but the thing that makes it the worst is that the song is not terrible, it's actually catchy but he just finds a way to make it creeptastic.

[Dougie Brootal]

But, rumors and allegations aside, what was it that this man actually "did" that causes all this animosity towards him from so many people?

are you serious?

you cant seriously wonder why so many people dislike him...

[dino_electropolis]

are you serious?

you cant seriously wonder why so many people dislike him...

I realize many people dislike him based on allegations and rumors of child molestation.

But he was acquitted, yes? (i know, so was OJ...)

If they are true, then i would agree with those who dislike him, of course.



But none of us know the "truth".....so to harbor so much disgust and even hatred toward a man based SOLELY on second/third/fourth/etc hand knowledge of events that may or may not have occured, kinda sheds some light on the character of those doing the judging.

[TooLowBrow]

I realize many people dislike him based on allegations and rumors of child molestation.

But he was acquitted, yes? (i know, so was OJ...)

If they are true, then i would agree with those who dislike him, of course.



But none of us know the "truth".....so to harbor so much disgust and even hatred toward a man based SOLELY on second/third/fourth/etc hand knowledge of events that may or may not have occured, kinda sheds some light on the character of those doing the judging.


well put


i hate all this hate

[TheMojoPin]

I think Michael Jackson was his alter ego. I am watching the videos now as i am doing stuff around the room and i just stops and think "Really?".

Just watch the "Scream" video it is so so so so so bad but the thing that makes it the worst is that the song is not terrible, it's actually catchy but he just finds a way to make it creeptastic.

I really came around on that song. I hated it when it came out but I remember hearing it again a few years ago and thinking, "this is a damn good pop song." I like the video, too. Mark Romanek makes a snazzy video.

It's weird watching the clips of him looking progressively stranger because it's all these moments where I remember thinking at the time, "there's no way he can look any worse" and yet he'd trump that. I remember when he was showing up in public for Dangerous just thinking he couldn't possibly look any bizarre, but now in hindsight he looks fantastic there compared to what we'd see over the next 15 years.

[TheMojoPin]

I realize many people dislike him based on allegations and rumors of child molestation.

But he was acquitted, yes? (i know, so was OJ...)

If they are true, then i would agree with those who dislike him, of course.



But none of us know the "truth".....so to harbor so much disgust and even hatred toward a man based SOLELY on second/third/fourth/etc hand knowledge of events that may or may not have occured, kinda sheds some light on the character of those doing the judging.

Plus if you think back, people would seem to really dislike or hate him even before the kid stuff came out. It was really like a lot of people just disliked him because of how strange he seemed and the tabloid frenzy around him, yet he really didn't put any of that stuff out there himself. It's not like he was going out of his way going, "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!"

[Dougie Brootal]

I realize many people dislike him based on allegations and rumors of child molestation.

But he was acquitted, yes? (i know, so was OJ...)

If they are true, then i would agree with those who dislike him, of course.



But none of us know the "truth".....so to harbor so much disgust and even hatred toward a man based SOLELY on second/third/fourth/etc hand knowledge of events that may or may not have occured, kinda sheds some light on the character of those doing the judging.

no. it sheds light on the guy who was accused multiple times of child molestation. its not just a coincidence that he fits the profile , to a T, of a pedophile (as another poster mentioned before in this thread). all joking aside, i respect and admire his musical contributions, no one can dispute any of that, and i recognize that this event has an effect on many peoples lives. but dimebag darrells death effected me more than it may effect you or someone else who didnt care for his music or lifestyle. i dont make a big stink when people joke about that. its not mandatory that everyone be in shock or devastated by a celebrity's death. people will react how they want. and nothing you or anyone else can say will change that.












but on the other hand, if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, chances are...













































its a kid toucher.





or something.

[dino_electropolis]

no. it sheds light on the guy who was accused multiple times of child molestation. its not just a coincidence that he fits the profile , to a T, of a pedophile (as another poster mentioned before in this thread). all joking aside, i respect and admire his musical contributions, no one can dispute any of that, and i recognize that this event has an effect on many peoples lives. but dimebag darrells death effected me more than it may effect you or someone else who didnt care for his music or lifestyle. i dont make a big stink when people joke about that. its not mandatory that everyone be in shock or devastated by a celebrity's death. people will react how they want. and nothing you or anyone else can say will change that.












but on the other hand, if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, chances are...













































its a kid toucher.





or something.

i love Pantera, and Dimebag's death sucked, especially the way it occured.


Well, as for the MULTIPLE accusations:

I accuse Dougie Brootal of molesting me. (accusation #1)

I accuse Dougie Brootal of molesting me. (accusation #2)

(i can keep going, but you get the idea.)

And if i were to pursue these allegations, what would happen? You would be acquitted. Well, so was he.

So aside from his overt, clearly pulbicized kookieness, these multiple child touching allegations are as valid as the ones i made against you just now.

As an aside, i dont see his love for children as being the dirty kind. he is NOT the typical molester...i dont see him as an "Uncle Paul", or some deviant who needs to subjugate smaller inferior beings.....i think he honestly LOVED children, but we, the disgusting and cynical society that we are, twist it into something disgusting.

Jesus loved children as well. I guess he was a kid toucher too.
(not comparing him to jesus, just making a point)

[FezsAssistant]

I have conflicting emotions about MJ.

I love his stuff as a kid. No other singer gives me goosebumps like that.

His post-Jackson 5 stuff was good, but that was mostly a product of the talent of Quincy Jones (in my opinion). I think his popularity was a product of gimmick dance moves.

For me, he's already been dead for years.

[Dougie Brootal]

i love Pantera, and Dimebag's death sucked, especially the way it occured.


Well, as for the MULTIPLE accusations:

I accuse Dougie Brootal of molesting me. (accusation #1)

I accuse Dougie Brootal of molesting me. (accusation #2)

(i can keep going, but you get the idea.)

And if i were to pursue these allegations, what would happen? You would be acquitted. Well, so was he.

So aside from his overt, clearly pulbicized kookieness, these multiple child touching allegations are as valid as the ones i made against you just now.

As an aside, i dont see his love for children as being the dirty kind. he is NOT the typical molester...i dont see him as an "Uncle Paul", or some deviant who needs to subjugate smaller inferior beings.....i think he honestly LOVED children, but we, the disgusting and cynical society that we are, twist it into something disgusting.

Jesus loved children as well. I guess he was a kid toucher too.
(not comparing him to jesus, just making a point)

you dont wanna get me started on my thoughts about the historical figure of jesus, dino...

i love kids too, but some of the things he admitted to doing with children, (sleeping together, bathing etc) i wouldnt even imagine doing with any kid (except maybe miley cyrus or the oldest jonas brother, but i got my own problems).







and believe this, those allegations will be true when i take a trip to new jersey big boy!:wink:

[TooLowBrow]

you dont wanna get me started on my thoughts about the historical figure of jesus, dino...

i love kids too, but some of the things he admitted to doing with children, (sleeping together, bathing etc) i wouldnt even imagine doing with any kid (except maybe miley cyrus or the oldest jonas brother, but i got my own problems).







and believe this, those allegations will be true when i take a trip to new jersey big boy!:wink:

do you post this much against 'proven' kid touchers? or is this, somehow, personal?

[TheMojoPin]

I have conflicting emotions about MJ.

I love his stuff as a kid. No other singer gives me goosebumps like that.

His post-Jackson 5 stuff was good, but that was mostly a product of the talent of Quincy Jones (in my opinion). I think his popularity was a product of gimmick dance moves.

Definitely not. Jackson was always front and center when it came to writing, co-writing and producing his solo music. Jones was obviously a huge presence in the albums he produced, especially Off the Wall, but in the end it was Michael's show. Hell, look at "Billie Jean": Jackson wrote that song and it was basically totally his baby. Jones didn't even like the song and didn't want it on the album.

[Dougie Brootal]

do you post this much against 'proven' kid touchers? or is this, somehow, personal?

IM NOT LISTENING L;ALALALALALALALALALALAAA!!






seriously though, i was a huge fan when i was a kid until the "incident" came to light. i remember crying hysterically and not understanding why michael jackson was going to jail when i heard about it. i was probably like 9. then after i was told what the situation was i remember being scared of michael jackson and throwing away all my tapes and shit. it was quite devastating at the time. i guess i never really got over it. i guess i should really hate my mother for explaining it to me at that age, but i hate her for other reasons....









...this couch is quite comfortable... same time next week doc?:wacko:

[dino_electropolis]

you dont wanna get me started on my thoughts about the historical figure of jesus, dino...

i love kids too, but some of the things he admitted to doing with children, (sleeping together, bathing etc) i wouldnt even imagine doing with any kid (except maybe miley cyrus or the oldest jonas brother, but i got my own problems)


and believe this, those allegations will be true when i take a trip to new jersey big boy!:wink:

well unlike Jacko's mouthy accuser, I know a good thing when I see it and I can keep a secret too, so ur safe by me sweetcheeks!


As for understanding mj's conduct, anyone who didn't spend 90% of thier life as a superstar would be hard pressed to understand what was in his mind.

[Dougie Brootal]

well unlike Jacko's mouthy accuser, I know a good thing when I see it and I can keep a secret too, so ur safe by me sweetcheeks!


As for understanding mj's conduct, anyone who didn't spend 90% of thier life as a superstar would be hard pressed to understand what was in his mind.

hahaha and i agree with that statement, theres no way anyone could even fathom what was going on in that dudes head.

[spoon]

So the debate should rage!

Should this thread have been moved or not? It was moved from Current Events to Entertainment. I say it falls more into the former, as his death isn't entertainment.

Fuck this clown too by the way.

[TheMojoPin]

So the debate should rage!

Should this thread have been moved or not? It was moved from Current Events to Entertainment. I say it falls more into the former, as his death isn't entertainment.

Fuck this clown too by the way.

I try to keep the celebrity deaths out of the politics forum when I can. Deal with it, sucko.

[spoon]

I try to keep the celebrity deaths out of the politics forum when I can. Deal with it, sucko.

you just earned urself a tag and some shame!

[FezsAssistant]

Definitely not. Jackson was always front and center when it came to writing, co-writing and producing his solo music. Jones was obviously a huge presence in the albums he produced, especially Off the Wall, but in the end it was Michael's show. Hell, look at "Billie Jean": Jackson wrote that song and it was basically totally his baby. Jones didn't even like the song and didn't want it on the album.

In light of that info, Quincy's greatest contribution to the world is now his daughter Rashida.

[sink]

Pederast could not handle a little demerol, faggot.

[TheMojoPin]

In light of that info, Quincy's greatest contribution to the world is now his daughter Rashida.

She is indeed fine as hell.

[spoon]

Pederast could not handle a little demerol, faggot.

MY GOD this is getting stupid now too.

[sink]

MY GOD this is getting stupid now too.

It went GAZ?

[NewYorkDragons80]

You know, I havent even given Michael's death much thought but hearing the closing song "I'll Be There" and thinking about that little kid that could sing his ass off and is now gone - makes me take time to reflect his impact on music. Sad loss.

I was thinking about that too. How rare is it that a child has such an incredible singing voice... and even rarer that they can continue to have even greater success well into adulthood after their voice changes. It's almost as if there were 2 careers in one person.

[spoon]

I just attempted to watch the news and it literally was an hour straight of Michael Jackson and fucking idiots saying some of the most retarded shit in the world.

CBS reporter actually said, "His faults were easily outweighed by his talents." Really, kid touching is just simply outweighed by his music huh!? Others like Chad Ocho Cinco, Al and all these other idiots dancing in the streets in SF and Chelsea should just end their lives now.

I can not believe what dominates our media, let alone the fucking news these days. I for one don't just overlook awful events bc a person has a talent. Kobe isn't a great basketball player/champion, to me he's a fucking dirtbag rapist. Michael isn't the king of pop, he's a disgusting human being in so many ways. Sorry, I'm not even judging harshly, it's simply unreal what is important to people these days. Our heros are fucking dirtbags and get away with anything if a celebrity. What is wrong with people, our culture and overall humanity today?!

[sink]

A pederast is getting 24 hour media coverage b/c when he was black he could sing, grab his nuts, but now dresses his fake kids in burka's.

Make complete sense to me, nothing else important going on.

[TheMojoPin]

You're sick of all the Michael Jackson stuff...so you start another thread about Michael Jackson's death and the coverage its getting

...

Makes perfect sense.

[sink]

You're sick of all the Michael Jackson stuff...so you start another thread about Michael Jackson's death and the coverage its getting

...

Makes perfect sense.

Pipe down dummy

[TheMojoPin]

Quiet, you.

[sink]

Quiet, you.

No, see, that's what I told you.

[spoon]

Yah but ripping him IS good fun. Now bring on the NHL DRAFT MOJO SUCKO!


Oh and I'm not the fucking national media, but I damn well should be.

[HBox]

He made Thriller.

























































THRILLER.

[Marc with a c]

thanks for not cursing in the thread title.

[TooLowBrow]

is holy f fez's new boardname?

[HBox]

Thank God this is a message board for a show on an XL channel.

[TripleSkeet]

And for anyone that ever doubted the point raised a few years ago that people give a fuck more about animals then humans, remember this...

Today 3/4 of this country mourned a fucking pedophile but most of them would protest the NFL if Michael Vick tries to get a job.

[sink]

thanks for not cursing in the thread title.

thinking about children, huh?

[Marc with a c]

thinking about children, huh?

i'm carrying on his tradition.

[Gvac]

~ Holy F, Enough with the Michael Jackson! ~

thanks for not cursing in the thread title.

He knows how much that word upsets Fez.

[spoon]

He knows how much that word upsets Fez.

Hence the reason for the edit.

[jab]

what happened with michael jackson?

[zildjian361]

no thread for the bad mj jokes you heard at work today, or did i miss something

[red_red_red]

And for anyone that ever doubted the point raised a few years ago that people give a fuck more about animals then humans, remember this...

Today 3/4 of this country mourned a fucking pedophile but most of them would protest the NFL if Michael Vick tries to get a job.
:blink: say it isn't so!! (that was sarcasm..ugh)

of course the whole sheep issue comes into play. people see a popular or politically correct side and do the whole bandwagon jumping. having a unique, personal opinion has fallen by the wayside. it's either all or nothing with most people and that sucks.

[jab]

from the fox news website about jackson (sorry if this was posted already here)

"...And in a bizarre coda, the No. 1 Google Trend search term at 3 p.m. EDT Friday was about the death of Tippy Tom, an alcoholic homeless man frequently featured on the "Opie and Anthony" shock-jock radio show..."

[red_red_red]

from the fox news website about jackson (sorry if this was posted already here)

"...And in a bizarre coda, the No. 1 Google Trend search term at 3 p.m. EDT Friday was about the death of Tippy Tom, an alcoholic homeless man frequently featured on the "Opie and Anthony" shock-jock radio show..."
:laugh: it's great fucking with the media....dumb twats

[spoon]

:blink: say it isn't so!! (that was sarcasm..ugh)

of course the whole sheep issue comes into play. people see a popular or politically correct side and do the whole bandwagon jumping. having a unique, personal opinion has fallen by the wayside. it's either all or nothing with most people and that sucks.


So true...I agree...you're so right! :wink:

[red_red_red]

So true...I agree...you're so right! :wink:
o0o0o i'm a cult now :thumbup:

[sink]

Maybe a cunt

[spoon]

Maybe a cunt

I'm in for either!

[red_red_red]

I'm in for either!
:lol:

[styckx]

I've seen random pictures today of our upstanding African American friends holding vigils and shit w/ homemade WE <3 MJ! signs. I won't even ask the question if this people have jobs.

I swear that faggot Sway from MTV was about to cry last night.

[sink]

I've seen random pictures today of our upstanding African American friends holding vigils and shit w/ homemade WE <3 MJ! signs. I won't even ask the question if this people have jobs.

I swear that faggot Sway from MTV was about to cry last night.

I'm not sure what is more ball licking, the fack you were watching MTV or know who the fuck SWAY is.

[spoon]

I'm not sure what is more ball licking, the fack you were watching MTV or know who the fuck SWAY is.

Ha!

I was wondering if he had a fucking stroke! Sway is a person!?

Fag.

[instrument]

i just re-read the whole michael jackson story, due to all the ped talk, and i really must've missed something, seems like someone tried to run a scam on michael, and he was wrongly accused?

am i missing something?

i can understand the joking comments, but seeing people actually say this shit over and over again and mean it, i just dont get it. I joke about kobe and the rape shit, but apparently he didn't rape anyone either.

this all seems stupid to me.

[TooLowBrow]

heres a question to all the people accusing michael of being guilty of pedophilia.

if you truly believe that he was fucking boys, why didnt you start threads all over the place about how wrong it is when he was living? why wait til he's dead to voice anger?



if esd was charged with being a ped, twice, would you only rarely mention it? and only post multiple times in multiple threads about it after he died?


i dont get it

[booster11373]

It is a proven fact that 24 hour cable news channels are only capable of handling one story at a time

[silera]

Woody Allen married his daughter and fathered his own grandkids with her.

[BlackSpider]

Woody Allen married his adopted daughter and fathered his own grandkids with her.

You left out a key word...

[styckx]

I'm not sure what is more ball licking, the fack you were watching MTV or know who the fuck SWAY is.

I haven't turned that channel on in years. I took a peak last night to see what kind of ball lapping they were doing. Lasted 10 minutes before "16 and pregnant" came on and I went back to History Channel

[mikeyboy]

heres a question to all the people accusing michael of being guilty of pedophilia.

if you truly believe that he was fucking boys, why didnt you start threads all over the place about how wrong it is when he was living? why wait til he's dead to voice anger?



if esd was charged with being a ped, twice, would you only rarely mention it? and only post multiple times in multiple threads about it after he died?


i dont get it

Probably because Jackson largely became irrelevant over the last 15 years or so so people stopped caring, but now that he's relevant again people are commenting.

[silera]

Yeah, adopted isn't key for me.

Basically, any dude can adopt himself a baby then and just wait 15 yrs for it to ripen up before romancing her into marriage.

[TheMojoPin]

Merging this since it's basically the same discussions in the original Jackson thread.

Plus I can, just to piss off spoon.

[TooLowBrow]

Probably because Jackson largely became irrelevant over the last 15 years or so so people stopped caring, but now that he's relevant again people are commenting.

i can see that

i dont really get the whole accused kid thing either.

lets say michael raped your kid


and you know it

and he knew you knew it

so he came up to you and said ill give you 50 million dollars (or however much you guys think it was)



is there a price tag that you could put on your kids ass virginity?

i cant believe that 2 separate families turned to there kids and said, 'i know he raped you, but hes giving us a lot of money, so its ok'.





???

[TheMojoPin]

i can see that

i dont really get the whole accused kid thing either.

lets say michael raped your kid


and you know it

and he knew you knew it

so he came up to you and said ill give you 50 million dollars (or however much you guys think it was)



is there a price tag that you could put on your kids ass virginity?

i cant believe that 2 separate families turned to there kids and said, 'i know he raped you, but hes giving us a lot of money, so its ok'.





???

I don't think he was ever actually accused of "ass-raping" anyone.

Though I could be wrong.

Wasn't it supposedly a bunch of MLC sleeping bag-style adventures?\

[TooLowBrow]

I don't think he was ever actually accused of "ass-raping" anyone.

Though I could be wrong.

Wasn't it supposedly a bunch of MLC sleeping bag-style adventures?\

still, as a parent would you look the other way for cash?

thats pimping your kid!

[~Katja~]

i can see that

i dont really get the whole accused kid thing either.

lets say michael raped your kid


and you know it

and he knew you knew it

so he came up to you and said ill give you 50 million dollars (or however much you guys think it was)



is there a price tag that you could put on your kids ass virginity?

i cant believe that 2 separate families turned to there kids and said, 'i know he raped you, but hes giving us a lot of money, so its ok'.





???

there is no price on that for my kid, which is exactly why I blame both MJ & the parents equally for it ever happening.

[mikeyboy]

i can see that

i dont really get the whole accused kid thing either.

lets say michael raped your kid


and you know it

and he knew you knew it

so he came up to you and said ill give you 50 million dollars (or however much you guys think it was)



is there a price tag that you could put on your kids ass virginity?

i cant believe that 2 separate families turned to there kids and said, 'i know he raped you, but hes giving us a lot of money, so its ok'.





???

On the other hand, your kid has been raped, and there's nothing you can do to change that. Let's say the parents wanted Michael punished for what he did, and he is, only it's financially. That way the kid is set for life and doesn't have to put on the stand and withstand the rigors of a trial. I'm not saying I would do that, but I'm not sure it's as black and white as you think it is.

[Hottub]

Merging this since it's basically the same discussions in the original Jackson thread.

Plus I can, just to piss off spoon.

I love you, man.

[Gvac]

On the other hand, your kid has been raped, and there's nothing you can do to change that. Let's say the parents wanted Michael punished for what he did, and he is, only it's financially. That way the kid is set for life and doesn't have to put on the stand and withstand the rigors of a trial. I'm not saying I would do that, but I'm not sure it's as black and white as you think it is.

Typical lawyer. :bye:

[TooLowBrow]

On the other hand, your kid has been raped, and there's nothing you can do to change that. Let's say the parents wanted Michael punished for what he did, and he is, only it's financially. That way the kid is set for life and doesn't have to put on the stand and withstand the rigors of a trial. I'm not saying I would do that, but I'm not sure it's as black and white as you think it is.

it dont matter if its black or white.....:wacko:


where are those kids now?
living in beverly hills getting ready for ivy league universities?

if thats so, then ill believe it.
but i think the parents took what seemed like a lot to them, but an amount that didnt really hurt jackson

and to think that a parent would see getting 5 mill as a better way to hurt jackson then dragging his ass through court, thats crazy

[TheMojoPin]

still, as a parent would you look the other way for cash?

thats pimping your kid!

Me? Hell no.

But there's a lot of scumbags in the world.

[mikeyboy]

it dont matter if its black or white.....:wacko:


where are those kids now?
living in beverly hills getting ready for ivy league universities?

if thats so, then ill believe it.
but i think the parents took what seemed like a lot to them, but an amount that didnt really hurt jackson

and to think that a parent would see getting 5 mill as a better way to hurt jackson then dragging his ass through court, thats crazy

Do you really doubt there are people that? I'm sorry, I just can't see a settlement (and reportedly pretty large ones at that) as proof of his innocence.

[TooLowBrow]

there is no price on that for my kid, which is exactly why I blame both MJ & the parents equally for it ever happening.

mj would be at fault for it happening.

the parents are at fault if its covered up

him offering money in exchange for molestation, to the parents!, not even to the kid is an insane proposal
so id only blame the parents if they went for the deal

[TooLowBrow]

Do you really doubt there are people that? I'm sorry, I just can't see a settlement (and reportedly pretty large ones at that) as proof of his innocence.

for real now... if i kid touched your kid. and you found out. how much would you want, so youd feel like i was punished enough and you could go on living with having to look your kid in the eye?

[mikeyboy]

for real now... if i kid touched your kid. and you found out. how much would you want, so youd feel like i was punished enough and you could go on living with having to look your kid in the eye?

This isn't about me. Do you doubt that there are people who would take that deal? Apparently you do, and if that's the case, you're being naive. Do you honestly believe that a settlement is proof of Jackson's innocence?

[~Katja~]

mj would be at fault for it happening.

the parents are at fault if its covered up

him offering money in exchange for molestation, to the parents!, not even to the kid is an insane proposal
so id only blame the parents if they went for the deal

no, the parents are at fault for continuously bringing their children in this environment. I remember reading stories where the parents felt like they were under his orders and had to obey... (or his "magic spell" cause he was this huge celebrity) while being paid all expenses to travel and live the life of this rock star.
They knowingly brought their kids along.
They are equally responsible.
No money can help a child cope with that.

[TooLowBrow]

This isn't about me. Do you doubt that there are people who would take that deal? Apparently you do, and if that's the case, you're being naive. Do you honestly believe that a settlement is proof of Jackson's innocence?

im not attacking you, but i havent had a back and forth with anyone about the stuff i dont get. so thanks for that



i think that michael was in relationships with kids the way that kids have relationships with each other.
so the sleepovers, sneaking wine or looks at porno is part of his weird neverending adolescence.

i think the parents knew that he was strange, but harmless. so when the kids were in situations that jacksons people didnt want in public (cause no one would understand cause its really fucking weird) they demanded money.

they knew that legally they had little or no case because it was more creepy than illegal, and they knew the kids werent really hurt so taking the money was fine for them.

[TooLowBrow]

no, the parents are at fault for continuously bringing their children in this environment. I remember reading stories where the parents felt like they were under his orders and had to obey... (or his "magic spell" cause he was this huge celebrity) while being paid all expenses to travel and live the life of this rock star.
They knowingly brought their kids along.
They are equally responsible.
No money can help a child cope with that.

did the state take the kids away from the parents?

i think if you continuously leave you kid alone with someone who you believe to be a kid toucher, then accuse him of being a kid toucher, that youd lose your kids because youd be conspiring to aid a pedophile

[red_red_red]

i can see that

i dont really get the whole accused kid thing either.

lets say michael raped your kid


and you know it

and he knew you knew it

so he came up to you and said ill give you 50 million dollars (or however much you guys think it was)



is there a price tag that you could put on your kids ass virginity?

i cant believe that 2 separate families turned to there kids and said, 'i know he raped you, but hes giving us a lot of money, so its ok'.





???
look, i don't want to break your naivety cherry, but yes, ppl do this. would you? maybe you are of stronger mind and character, but many are not. read/watch the news much?

[TooLowBrow]

look, i don't want to break your naivety cherry, but yes, ppl do this. would you? maybe you are of stronger mind and character, but many are not. read/watch the news much?

so why not take the money and offer testimony during the criminal trial anyway?

what is he gonna come and take the money away? that would only made him look guiltier

[~Katja~]

did the state take the kids away from the parents?

i think if you continuously leave you kid alone with someone who you believe to be a kid toucher, then accuse him of being a kid toucher, that youd lose your kids because youd be conspiring to aid a pedophile

the one case was only brought to court when the custody switched from mother to father and the son started living with him. So no, the state had no reason to take the child away because it was finally in responsible hands!

[red_red_red]

so why not take the money and offer testimony during the criminal trial anyway?

what is he gonna come and take the money away? that would only made him look guiltier
because it might have been stipulated that they WOULD NOT FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES.....did you just fall off of the turnip truck?

[mikeyboy]

so why not take the money and offer testimony during the criminal trial anyway?

what is he gonna come and take the money away? that would only made him look guiltier

I'm sure that was a condition of taking the money.

[TooLowBrow]

the one case was only brought to court when the custody switched from mother to father and the son started living with him. So no, the state had no reason to take the child away because it was finally in responsible hands!

but other accusing parents brought their families and sometimes just the kids to spend time with michael

[TooLowBrow]

I'm sure that was a condition of taking the money.

how can that possibly be a legal condition in a money transaction?

if someone accuses another of a felony and then after a cash exchange refuses to testify isnt that illegal?

can you claim unawareness of a felony like that?

you cant take the fifth cause that only protects against self incrimination.

no matter the money paid cant the court subpoena these people and force them to testify?

[mikeyboy]

how can that possibly be a legal condition in a money transaction?

if someone accuses another of a felony and then after a cash exchange refuses to testify isnt that illegal?

can you claim unawareness of a felony like that?

you cant take the fifth cause that only protects against self incrimination.

no matter the money paid cant the court subpoena these people and force them to testify?

I honestly don't remember the circumstances very well, and I don't deal with criminal law at all, but I would assume that if a court had the ability to force a witness to testify in this situation, they would be very hesitant to subpoena a witness in a case like this, especially one that might force a child to testify when they didn't want to.

[TooLowBrow]

I honestly don't remember the circumstances very well, and I don't deal with criminal law at all, but I would assume that if a court had the ability to force a witness to testify in this situation, they would be very hesitant to subpoena a witness in a case like this, especially one that might force a child to testify when they didn't want to.

oh

we live in a crazy world

we dont want a kid to have to relive being touched so we let the kid toucher continue to prowl

[mikeyboy]

oh

we live in a crazy world

we dont want a kid to have to relive being touched so we let the kid toucher continue to prowl

So we should be a society that forces a victim, a child no less, to go through additional pain and damage to the psyche in order to enforce justice?

[~Katja~]

oh

we live in a crazy world

we dont want a kid to have to relive being touched so we let the kid toucher continue to prowl

you don't have kids, am I right?

[dino_electropolis]

In the words of the infamous legal mind of lionel hutz:

" Well, Your Honor. We've plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence.*.. "


so what exactly is any of this based on?

[TooLowBrow]

So we should be a society that forces a victim, a child no less, to go through additional pain and damage to the psyche in order to enforce justice?

to make 1 person experience mental anguish to protect however many others physical, maybe.
dont the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?

you don't have kids, am I right?

no.
so i dont get it from the parents point of view.

i dont understand it from his point of view either.

but i thought as a society we try to stop these things from happening rather than accepting that cash cleaned it up

[~Katja~]

but i thought as a society we try to stop these things from happening rather than accepting that cash cleaned it up

I think you would have done really well growing up and living in communism.

[TooLowBrow]

I think you would have done really well growing up and living in communism.

cause i dont like that criminal matters can be cleaned up with cash that allows you to avoid the legal process?

sure we have capitalism, but money shouldnt trump our judicial system

[Thomas Merton]

It took four beers, but I just read every single post in this thread. Wow

Now I'm watching his canonization on a 20/20 special

TLB, where there is smoke there is fire

I knew he was a kid toucher when I saw the clip of him at some awards show with a young hot Brooke Shields on one arm and Emmanuel Lewis on the other and he only paid attention to the kid

As much as I hate him, I still get goosebumps when he broke out the moonwalk the first time at the Motown show during Billy Jean

Damn him for wasting his God given talent. You can be weird and overcome a horrible childhood without being a pedophile

[TooLowBrow]

fine, im wrong

you guys KNOW what the entire state of california was unable to prove

[BlackSpider]

fine, im wrong

you guys KNOW what the entire state of california was unable to prove



O.J. really killed his wife...?

[~Katja~]

cause i dont like that criminal matters can be cleaned up with cash that allows you to avoid the legal process?

sure we have capitalism, but money shouldnt trump our judicial system

I have learned the hard way that even money cannot fix this judicial system

[red_red_red]

O.J. really killed his wife...?
creeps are not allowed in here!!!! oh...wait...oopsie

[Contra]

I think Jackson was a great artist, but yes very troubled from the traumatic childhood he endured. Did this make him a strange individual? Yes. Do I think the way he was with children was very weird and kind of creepy? Yes. Do I think he was a pedo that hurt those children, no I honestly don't, just my opinion. I'm not going to argue with anyone about it because I don't know for certain, and neither do any of you, so it's pointless. To strawberrypop, it's cool that this board has it's first FBI criminal psychologist. And to anyone making the OJ and Kobe arguement: I can't believe I have to type this, OJ was CONVICTED OF MURDER, a jury of his peers convicted him of murder in civil court, he is a murderer. Kobe Bryant was AQITTED OF RAPE. They found out the girl was a money hungery whore. Did anyone actually follow these trials or do you just like talking out of your ass?

Regardless of the past 15 or so years, Jacksons music will always hold a special place with me. I grew up on it. My mother practically wore those records down as thin as a layer of skin. To me, no matter how fucked up he made himself look, he put out great music until he really faded away after HIStory.

Elvis was a pedo drug addict to the day he died yet he is still "the King", Arnold "the Govenator" used to be a steroid abuser and has had multiple allegations of inappropriately touching women yet will always be known as an iconic actor. My point being everyone has their demons, some large, some small. Does that make certain behavior excusable? Does it make them horrible people? Does it mean they should be idolized for wading through the murky water? No, it just makes them human.

[Melk]

I think Jackson was a great artist, but yes very troubled from the traumatic childhood he endured. Did this make him a strange individual? Yes. Do I think the way he was with children was very weird and kind of creepy? Yes. Do I think he was a pedo that hurt those children, no I honestly don't, just my opinion. I'm not going to argue with anyone about it because I don't know for certain, and neither do any of you, so it's pointless.
I don't necessarily see a benefit one way or the other in hating Michael Jackson, OJ Simpson, Kobe Bryant, Elvis or any other celebrity with shady dealings. But Michael Jackson was foolish enough to attempt diffusing his bad press by showing enough circumstantial evidence to give his detractors reasons not to trust him. He never thought that it would be in his best interest to be more careful after he was first accused of child molestation, instead he brought a hack English journalist into his compound and did all but send the signal that he was mentally unstable.

I have no vested interested in Michael Jackson's death or failure, but toward the end of his own life, Michael had no vested interested interest in improving his public image; like a communist dictator, he erected shrines to himself in his press releases contrary to his pubic image. You don't have to believe his bad press.

Granted, the example I am about to give is nowhere near equal to Michael Jackson's life, but Hulk Hogan's son got into a serious car accident that put his good friend into a vegetative state. Whether you believe Nick Hogan was at fault for the accident, he was stupider than hell to do anything that could be construed as a moving violation following that incident. Michael Jackson was accused of having sex with children was cleared of the charges and then admitted in an interview that he slept with young boys. It is difficult to defend yourself against rape charges, especially if you put yourself in situations where it would be easy to be accused over and over again.

[jab]

not guilty.

[Dougie Brootal]

heres a question to all the people accusing michael of being guilty of pedophilia.

if you truly believe that he was fucking boys, why didnt you start threads all over the place about how wrong it is when he was living? why wait til he's dead to voice anger?



if esd was charged with being a ped, twice, would you only rarely mention it? and only post multiple times in multiple threads about it after he died?


i dont get it


i honestly dont care about michael jackson, so i forgot he was alive until the internet told me he was dead.

[Dougie Brootal]

i kid touched your kid.

please god someone.... modquote....

[NewYorkDragons80]

I don't think he was ever actually accused of "ass-raping" anyone.

Though I could be wrong.

Wasn't it supposedly a bunch of MLC sleeping bag-style adventures?\

Damn, Mojo. That's 2 MLC-related shots in the MJ thread. Not saying they're not hilarious, but damn.

[fezident]

What an amazing impact MJ has had on people of all ages.

I played with a cover band on Thursday night, and the crowd FREEEAKED when we played "Billie Jean".
Last night, at a wedding, we played "I Want You Back".
Both nights, it was just amazing to see how people flocked to the dance floor and just..... danced. They seemed to be dancing FOR him. It was cool to see.
A lot of people were doing their best MJ dance moves. But others were just dancing their asses off and singing along to pay tribute. It was awesome. Just awesome.

:clap:

[sr71blackbird]

I got called out by my friend fir bad mouthing him after his death, under the belief that it is disrespectful to the dead to say bad things about them. So, I won't sat anymore about it, but I an positive that in the coming weeks we will begin to hear more and more about his habits and lifestyle and inner deamons. Time will tell what this man was really all about.

[dino_electropolis]

What an amazing impact MJ has had on people of all ages.

I played with a cover band on Thursday night, and the crowd FREEEAKED when we played "Billie Jean".
Last night, at a wedding, we played "I Want You Back".
Both nights, it was just amazing to see how people flocked to the dance floor and just..... danced. They seemed to be dancing FOR him. It was cool to see.
A lot of people were doing their best MJ dance moves. But others were just dancing their asses off and singing along to pay tribute. It was awesome. Just awesome.

:clap:

Perfect.

Thanks for sharing that. It made me think about how much fun i have had dancin to his music.

He will definitely be missed.

[sr71blackbird]

Freak or not, the guy could dance:

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[fezident]

It's a shame about all the allegations and accusations.
Without them.... I think the powers that be would be organizing thee biggest tribute concert-event in history. Perhaps bigger than The Freddie Mercury Concert For Life.

[Fallon]

The Boston Herald had to aplogize for their Michael Jackson cover. Apparently it's racist.

http://i40.tinypic.com/24lr48x.jpg

[Contra]

That's hilarious

[dino_electropolis]

Talk about global impact!

Forget that Mt Rushmore nonsense....that silly rock is to small to contain him.

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[furie]

http://img.moronail.net/img/3/1/1531.jpg

[TripleSkeet]

I agree with Mikeyboy. Taking a settlement doesnt just assume innocence. Each situation is different. So far everyone here (including myself) has said theyd rather go to trial then take a cash settlement. But our situations arent the same as theirs.

Remember, most of these people were in low income families. Here a sudden terrible thing happens to their kid and they decide to pursue justice. Then they are told stuff like, "When your kid gets on that stand, the defense lawyers are going to do whatever they can to discredit him and tear him apart, are you sure you want to put them through that?"

So they give them another option, more money then theyve ever had in their life. They are told, take the money, get a nice house for your child, therapy if he needs it, and an education so they have a chance at a better life then you wouldve been able to offer them. Its a chance for them to take a horrible incident that they cant ever take away, and use it to give their kid a future. Its not an easy decision.

[LordJezo]

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[psycho]

At least he died in complete dignity.

[dino_electropolis]

I agree with Mikeyboy. Taking a settlement doesnt just assume innocence. Each situation is different. So far everyone here (including myself) has said theyd rather go to trial then take a cash settlement. But our situations arent the same as theirs.

Remember, most of these people were in low income families. Here a sudden terrible thing happens to their kid and they decide to pursue justice. Then they are told stuff like, "When your kid gets on that stand, the defense lawyers are going to do whatever they can to discredit him and tear him apart, are you sure you want to put them through that?"

So they give them another option, more money then theyve ever had in their life. They are told, take the money, get a nice house for your child, therapy if he needs it, and an education so they have a chance at a better life then you wouldve been able to offer them. Its a chance for them to take a horrible incident that they cant ever take away, and use it to give their kid a future. Its not an easy decision.

Not really....first off, i think most parents in that situation, who honestly believed that thier child was harmed, would rather see the perpetrator in jail than take a cash settlement. Ok, so some people prefer money, i understand that.

But money could be made after a conviction (i.e. book sales, etc) Yes, its disgusting to profit from your child's abuse, but they did anyway by taking the settlement. So whats the difference? But i think i would rather ruin MJ's life, career, legacy etc, and still make some pocket change,if i REALLY felt my child was harmed.

Finally, while 20 million is alot of money, to MJ it really wasnt bank breaking at that time. Moreover, you gotta remember that MJ was surrounded by lawyers who may have swayed his decision (advising him of the unpredictability of jurors, and the like). It may have just made sense to pay this relatively small sum to avoid the chance that a dumb, or racist jury (and dont fool yourself, they are out there) comes back with the wrong verdict to convict thereby ruining him forever.

But what do i know?

[sailor]

http://img.moronail.net/img/3/1/1531.jpg

hilarious, but why two pairs?

[One Dead Fred]

http://img.moronail.net/img/3/1/1531.jpg

I love how he reaches in to his pocket for sunglasses that he already has on.

[A.J.]

At least he died in complete dignity.

:laugh:

[styckx]

Long lost Jackson comes out of the wood work for some cheap attention whoring. No not that one, nope not that one either..

Yup.. That one

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/27/michael.jackson/index.html

[NewYorkDragons80]

Long lost Jackson comes out of the wood work for some cheap attention whoring. No not that one, nope not that one either..

Yup.. That one

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/27/michael.jackson/index.html

"They need an independent autopsy to get even more answers to questions that are now being driven by the gap between when Michael was last seen alive and was pronounced dead day before yesterday," Jesse Jackson said.

There are lingering questions, such as: "How long had he stopped breathing? How long had he been unconscious?" he said.

What is he even trying to insinuate? I, for one, am awaiting word from Joe Jackson

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/05/02/joe_jackson_narrowweb__300x371,0.jpg

[Dude!]

seriously
i know the blacks
always defended michael

sharpton jackson panthers etc

it would have been awful
for this to devolve into
'the whites killed him'

i was therefore very happy
to see the picture
of the doctor who killed him

with the name Conrad Murray
i thought he would be irish
but no.............................

http://img.breitbart.com/images/2009/6/26/ap-p/6cd0d4af-5ac4-4ad4-afef-e5efd57bd5c5.jpg

[hanso]

I'm glad he died on a friday .
This gives 3 days of it plastered across most tv channels.
If it were during the week. It ment seeing all this crap for three days after hard days of work.

And heres a few question for those who prop him up.
Why did he pay hush money?
And then soon after flee the U.S.?

[~Katja~]

I'm glad he died on a friday .
This gives 3 days of it plastered across most tv channels.
If it were during the week. It ment seeing all this crap for three days after hard days of work.

And heres a few question for those who prop him up.
Why did he pay hush money?
And then soon after flee the U.S.?

He died Thursday

[Jughead]

You kids have one more that's sir Paul then you will never know another...:sad:

[hanso]

Allllrriiighht
4 days of this crap then. (hopefully).

[Dude!]

well it certainly pushed
the fledgling Iranian uprising
off the radar

americans are so silly

[Jughead]

well it certainly pushed
the fledgling Iranian uprising
off the radar

americans are so silly

Fuck them let them burn the place down..........

[PapaBear]

well it certainly pushed
the fledgling Iranian uprising
off the radar

americans are so silly
Did it? What
was all that coverage I
was watching
today, then?

[Gvac]

He's dead?

When did this happen?

I hadn't heard!

[Dude!]

Did it? What
was all that coverage I
was watching
today, then?

i have no idea
what were you watching?

[PapaBear]

i have no idea
what were you watching?
CNN

[sr71blackbird]

This is a weird story here.. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1196009/Im-better-dead-Im-How-Michael-Jackson-predicted-death-months-ago.html)

[KnoxHarrington]

This is a weird story here.. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1196009/Im-better-dead-Im-How-Michael-Jackson-predicted-death-months-ago.html)

It's obvious he wasn't in good health anyway, but I think it's becoming more and more apparent this 50 show stand in London hastened his death.

[CurseoftheBambi]

And heres a few question for those who prop him up.
Why did he pay hush money?
And then soon after flee the U.S.?
according to his own words...he asked his lawyers could they guarntee him a not guilty vertict and they told him (of course) they couldnt do that. Since the settlement was an option he agreed to whatever it was *it was never offically said what it was what is out there is speculation cause that is one of the terms of the settlement that it would never be discussed* so it could be put behind him and he could go on with his life.

he didnt flee the us. he left sometime afterwards...why? why would you stay in a country where you see newspapers already convicting you for something you didn't do with the presumption of guilt instead of innocence..and when you know in your heart you didnt do anything. kinda like someone who's innocent leaving an area where they live when they been dragged thru the mud for some where no one knows them *in his case yes they knew who he was but they appreicated him more than here.

and if settling out of court always means guilt..then a lot of people are guilty like he's assumed of being gulty for taking that option.

[TooLowBrow]

some dude from sirius shady was on o and a and said that jackson was broke from everything.
but some prince from dubai or something paid all his debts and bought him the island and castle down there
in exchange for 1 new michael jackson album

but then jackson skipped out on the prince and moved to ireland(?)

is any of that true or verifiable?

[hammersavage]

Sha'mon

[A.J.]

What is he even trying to insinuate? I, for one, am awaiting word from Joe Jackson

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/05/02/joe_jackson_narrowweb__300x371,0.jpg

Or even Phil Jackson.

[fezident]

The BET Awards.
Jamie Foxx is KILLIN' IT. That opening was entertaining as hell! I hope they show all 15 mins of it youtube.

Looks like they're gonna celebrate MJ all friggin' night. As it should be.

[sr71blackbird]

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[Fallon]

The BET Awards.
Jamie Foxx is KILLIN' IT. That opening was entertaining as hell! I hope they show all 15 mins of it youtube.

Looks like they're gonna celebrate MJ all friggin' night. As it should be.

I'm pissed I didn't know the awards were on tonight. Got my DVR set for the replay. I figured they might do something nice.

[fezident]

Does anybudday have "Ease On Down The Road" in mp3 format?

I'd appreciate it.

thnxx.
newyorktucker@yahoo.com

[hammersavage]

Jackson's death spurs album sales (http://abs-cbnnews.com/business/06/26/09/death-spurs-michael-jackson-album-sales)

He sold 750,000,000 worldwide over his career.

[bradleyjerome]

One of my good friend's had to spend a day with Michael Jackson late last year to demo some 3D IMAX stuff for a planned Thriller 2010 3D experience thing that turned into something that they were going to use in London. It's a good ten thousand word story, so I won't bother stealing it from him, but I'm pushing for him to do a write up himself or to call into one of the shows, because it's a gem.

Michael showed up in a Prius with a 20-year-old tuxedo wearing driver who carried his parasol.

[fezident]

One of my good friend's had to spend a day with Michael Jackson late last year to demo some 3D IMAX stuff for a planned Thriller 2010 3D experience thing that turned into something that they were going to use in London. It's a good ten thousand word story, so I won't bother stealing it from him, but I'm pushing for him to do a write up himself or to call into one of the shows, because it's a gem.

Michael showed up in a Prius with a 20-year-old tuxedo wearing driver who carried his parasol.

Type that shit out and post it!
Or.... send that story to me privately.

[brettmojo]

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[Gvac]

Do you think Michael Jackson would have been anywhere near as successful as he was if it wasn't the early days of MTV and he didn't have ground breaking videos? Add in his dancing ability and he was unstoppable.

I mean the songs are catchy and all, but they're pretty weak pop recordings.

[mikeyboy]

Do you think Michael Jackson would have been anywhere near as successful as he was if it wasn't the early days of MTV and he didn't have ground breaking videos? Add in his dancing ability and he was unstoppable.

I mean the songs are catchy and all, but they're pretty weak pop recordings.

I think you're on to something. Michael Jackson caught the wave of MTV perfectly and they were able to feed off of each other. He would have been a successful artist without MTV, but he likely wouldn't have been the icon of pop culture that he became.

[Andomray]

Jackson's death spurs album sales (http://abs-cbnnews.com/business/06/26/09/death-spurs-michael-jackson-album-sales)

He sold 750,000,000 worldwide over his career.

Where I work, I'd say every other person asks if we have any of Michael Jackson's albums available. Because of his lull in popularity before this, our warehouses were completely out of his cds within 48 hours. It's incredible what people will pick up as soon as a popular artist/actor passes, yet they would never think of buying these things if they were still living. It's incredibly scary to me for some reason.

[TheMojoPin]

I think you're on to something. Michael Jackson caught the wave of MTV perfectly and they were able to feed off of each other. He would have been a successful artist without MTV, but he likely wouldn't have been the icon of pop culture that he became.

Definitely, though most of those songs weren't "weak pop recordings."

[Gvac]

Definitely, though most of those songs weren't "weak pop recordings."

Sure they were. Go back and listen to them, not watch them.

There's no "wall of sound" or any great production; they're kind of thin and cheesy.

Catchy, but cheesy.

[sr71blackbird]

Who is actually benefitting from all these new music sales now that he is dead? Does the money go to his creditors?

[TheMojoPin]

Sure they were. Go back and listen to them, not watch them.

There's no "wall of sound" or any great production; they're kind of thin and cheesy.

Catchy, but cheesy.

Oh, OK, I hadn't even though about going back and listening to any of his songs over the last few days until you brought it up. Thanks.

Much of his music sounds very much of their respective eras, but that's to be expected given that above all else he was a pop artist. Besides, the vast majority of albums recorded in the 80's across the genres sound "thin."

And the "wall of sound" may be the most overrated acclaimed style of production in popular music. Ech. Talk about overkill.

Right now I'm just rooting for the sales surge to push Thriller past the motherfucking Eagles.

[bradleyjerome]

Type that shit out and post it!
Or.... send that story to me privately.
He might have signed a non disclosure agreement, but if I find out he can't/isn't willing to tell the story, I'll definitely secondhand type it out for your amusement.

[fezident]

I mean the songs are catchy and all, but they're pretty weak pop recordings.

Wow.
I wouldn't use the word "weak". I'd say "clean". Perhaps a bit nitpicky but... that's my two cents.

[IamFogHat]

I'm pretty sure Joe Jackson loved his son
this was taken today.
http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/06/joe-jackson-is-devastated/attachment/57814449/

[mikeyboy]

A single out of context picture means nothing, but Joe Jackson is an awful human being.

[Death Metal Moe]

Where I work, I'd say every other person asks if we have any of Michael Jackson's albums available. Because of his lull in popularity before this, our warehouses were completely out of his cds within 48 hours. It's incredible what people will pick up as soon as a popular artist/actor passes, yet they would never think of buying these things if they were still living. It's incredibly scary to me for some reason.

You should have seen how many people were seeding the Michael Jackson Discography torrents.

[Death Metal Moe]

A single out of context picture means nothing, but Joe Jackson is an awful human being.

I agree, his words are MUCH MUCH worse. Just the clips I heard on O&A are horrific. When asked how he was doing, you'd expect a grieving father to say something like "Dealing with it" or "taking it day by day." Instead Joe said something along the lines of "I'm doing great, thanks!" just so happy to be wanted on camera again.

Guy is a piece of garbage. Guys like that are who the N bomb should be saved for.

[IamFogHat]

A single out of context picture means nothing, but Joe Jackson is an awful human being.

Um if you've been reading the news in the last few days then you get my point, I kind of assume everyone here is internet savvy.
Just pointing people in the right direction.
I still think you're a saint.

[KC2OSO]

Sure they were. Go back and listen to them, not watch them.

There's no "wall of sound" or any great production; they're kind of thin and cheesy.

Catchy, but cheesy.
Agree. Wall of cheese. Most of it embarrassing and un-listenable today.

[Judge Smails]

A single out of context picture means nothing, but Joe Jackson is an awful human being.

How about this?


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[TheMojoPin]

Agree. Wall of cheese. Most of it embarrassing and un-listenable today.

Yeah, no.

[TheMojoPin]

How about this?


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How about this?

But it wasn't just his inability to cope with fame that made him weird. There was also the long-term effect on him of his bullying father, Joseph Jackson, a steel worker with huge ambitions for his nine children and strange ideas on parenting.

Michael was five when he wandered into a room - and fell to the floor, bloodied. His father had deliberately tripped him up.

'That's for what you did yesterday,' Joseph told his crying son. 'And tomorrow, I'm gonna get you for what you'll do today.'

To teach his sons not to leave their window open at night, he'd climb into their bedroom screaming, his face hidden by a mask, pretending to be a burglar. For years, Michael and his brother Marlon had nightmares of being kidnapped from their beds.

Though sensitive, Michael was spirited enough to fight back. Once, after Joseph had spanked him, he hurled his shoe at his father.

'Are you crazy?' Joseph screamed. 'Boy, you just signed your own death warrant.' Then he held Michael upside down by one leg and pummelled him over and over.

The violence worsened as the boys got older and the music business became their life.

'If you messed up during rehearsal, you got hit, sometimes with a belt or a stick,' recalled Michael. 'Once, he ripped the flex off the refrigerator and whopped me with it.'

When he was late for one rehearsal, Joseph came up from behind and shoved him. Michael fell and was badly bruised.

[mikeyboy]

Um if you've been reading the news in the last few days then you get my point, I kind of assume everyone here is internet savvy.
Just pointing people in the right direction.
I still think you're a saint.

My point was merely that a single picture doesn't say how he's doing. An unguarded smile could come from something unexpected while he's mourning his son...normally.

In this case, I'm agreeing with you, and Joe Jackson is an awful person.

[KC2OSO]

Yeah, no.
Last time you pulled an MJ CD off the wall?

[TheMojoPin]

Last time you pulled an MJ CD off the wall?

It's been a while since I pulled any CD off the shelf, but I've got around 60 Michael Jackson/Jacksons/Jackson 5 songs on my iPod.

[KC2OSO]

It's been a while since I pulled any CD off the shelf, but I've got around 60 Michael Jackson/Jacksons/Jackson 5 songs on my iPod.
Done. You're a true fan. I'll go away. ;o)

[TheMojoPin]

Done. You're a true fan. I'll go away. ;o)

Not at all. He's just put out a ton of great songs over the last 3+ decades, a lot of which I grew up with. Plus that's only about 60 out of almost 20,000 songs. I just like good music regardless of when it was made or who made it.

[KC2OSO]

I just like good music regardless of when it was made or who made it.
So do I. Nice to agree on that.
Oh, by the way, you're a great Mod!

[dino_electropolis]

My last thoughts, and then i'll let this icon rest.

All this molestation talk.....


Has anyone actually taken the time to look at the ACCUSERS?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_trial_of_Michael_Jackson#cite_ref-MagicMadness_6-2

ok, so its wiki, but most of it is substantiated...do some research....its there.

IN a nutshell, this family has a history of domestic violence, fraud and baseless legal complaints. Pre Molestation, the father had his kids steal from a JC PENNEY...when they were confronted, mom fights with security.....then SUES JC PENNEY for $3 million for assaulting her. They ended up $ettling for $137,000.

Then, the testimony of the "star witnesses" at trial were all contradicting themselves and each other.


So how, you ask, did the "victim" meet MJ? Well, he was a 13 year old cancer patient who had his spleen and kidney removed. And michael sought to make his dreams come true. Real scumbag, that Jacko.

These charlatains saw a quick payday and pounced. I hope they are proud of themselves. I hope all the media that helped portray MJ as a molester are equally proud. The only solace i get from this is that MJ is finally at peace.

Maybe he was just a pure soul, simple as that, and this distorted world couldnt accept it.

[IamFogHat]

I wonder how busy the Michael Jackson message boards are this week.

[fezident]

If people wanna hate MJ for being a (alleged) pedophile.... that's their business. But it's reeeeally bothering me how many people are pretending like they NEVER liked him.
Fuck you, ya insecure pussies.

You liked him.

The man sold a billion records. Everybody liked him.

I hate pussies.

[mikeyboy]

If people wanna hate MJ for being a (alleged) pedophile.... that's their business. But it's reeeeally bothering me how many people are pretending like they NEVER liked him.
Fuck you, ya insecure pussies.

You liked him.

The man sold a billion records. Everybody liked him.

I hate pussies.

I never did. Honestly. I was never a fan. I never bought any of his records. Even his Motown stuff I like less than the stuff coming from other Motown artists at the time. I've never said the music is without merit or that it sucks. It's just that it has never, ever grabbed me -- not at the height of Thriller, not with Bad, not ever. At least I'm consistent, unlike the people who didn't give a shit about him for 15 years and now are calling him a legend and buying all of his music.

[TheMojoPin]

I never did. Honestly. I was never a fan. I never bought any of his records. Even his Motown stuff I like less than the stuff coming from other Motown artists at the time. I've never said the music is without merit or that it sucks. It's just that it has never, ever grabbed me -- not at the height of Thriller, not with Bad, not ever. At least I'm consistent, unlike the people who didn't give a shit about him for 15 years and now are calling him a legend and buying all of his music.

Not even the Jackson 5?

[mikeyboy]

Not even the Jackson 5?

They was always decent, but never my favorite. The songs are fine, although a couple of them (ABC, Rockin' Robin) will grate on your nerves after a while. If you're going to go Motown, give me Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson or Stevie Wonder over the Jackson 5. I did like the cartoon when I was a kid though.

[TheMojoPin]

I did like the cartoon when I was a kid though.

BUSTED. Mikeyboy was a fan at some point. CASE CLOSED, LAWYER MAN.

[mikeyboy]

BUSTED. Mikeyboy was a fan at some point. CASE CLOSED, LAWYER MAN.

That Tito was HI-larious.

[PD]

how could anyone not like this?

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[Gvac]

Put me down as another one who never purchased a Michael Jackson album or single or downloaded a song.

Sure I watched the videos in the early MTV days and marveled at his dancing, but I was never a fan of the music.

Hell, I went to high school in the 80's and even then I knew the music of the day was cheesy. I hated all of it, from New Wave to Hair bands. It made me sick.

[TheMojoPin]

Put me down as another one who never purchased a Michael Jackson album or single or downloaded a song.

Sure I watched the videos in the early MTV days and marveled at his dancing, but I was never a fan of the music.

Hell, I went to high school in the 80's and even then I knew the music of the day was cheesy. I hated all of it, from New Wave to Hair bands. It made me sick.

AKA Gvac has never not been an outcast.

[Gvac]

AKA Gvac has never not been an outcast.

Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble debuted with Texas Flood in '83 and it was the first music I could relate to from the 80's.

I was listening to classic rock, 70's punk, and old country and blues records when I was in high school, not Flock Of Seagulls, Def Leppard, or Ozzy.

[fezident]

I'm not here to argue with you.
All I'm sayin' is.... the numbers don't lie.

We're not talking about a popular artist. We're not even talking about a legend. We're talking about theee biggest SELLING recording artist since the medium was created.

There are faaaar too many people pretending that they "simply never cared for him". I just can't reconcile that.
I'm not "accusing" you of being a megafan who's hiding in the closet. And I'm not saying "oh come on, you used to moonwalk around your house back in 84, admit it." I'm saying:
SOMEBODY LIKED THIS MOTHERFUCKER'S MUSIC!!! The numbers speak for themselves.


I saw the same shit go down with Tom Cruise. That dude called Matt Lauer "glib" and within 24 hours people were saying "... ya know... I never liked that dude."
Nigga please.
His last 10 movies have all made more than 100 million each. SOMEBODY likes the guy. He was the most bankable, most successful, most well liked dude in Hollywood for, like, 20 years. It was him and Hanks. He was a living legend.
You wanna say you don't like him NOW.... fine. But the "never cared for him" nonsense has got to stop.

If you're telling me you never had Michael's 45's.... and that you didn't eagerly wait for the "Thriller" video... and that you never cranked some random MJ when it came on the radio.... I have no choice but to believe you. You're Mikeyboy! But.... from where I'm sittin'... there's a few too many of you these days. The math just doesn't work.

[TheMojoPin]

What a nerd.

[sr71blackbird]

http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/song-chart-memes-michael-jackson.jpg?w=504&h=497

[dino_electropolis]

I'm not here to argue with you.
All I'm sayin' is.... the numbers don't lie.

We're not talking about a popular artist. We're not even talking about a legend. We're talking about theee biggest SELLING recording artist since the medium was created.

There are faaaar too many people pretending that they "simply never cared for him". I just can't reconcile that.
I'm not "accusing" you of being a megafan who's hiding in the closet. And I'm not saying "oh come on, you used to moonwalk around your house back in 84, admit it." I'm saying:
SOMEBODY LIKED THIS MOTHERFUCKER'S MUSIC!!! The numbers speak for themselves.


I saw the same shit go down with Tom Cruise. That dude called Matt Lauer "glib" and within 24 hours people were saying "... ya know... I never liked that dude."
Nigga please.
His last 10 movies have all made more than 100 million each. SOMEBODY likes the guy. He was the most bankable, most successful, most well liked dude in Hollywood for, like, 20 years. It was him and Hanks. He was a living legend.
You wanna say you don't like him NOW.... fine. But the "never cared for him" nonsense has got to stop.

If you're telling me you never had Michael's 45's.... and that you didn't eagerly wait for the "Thriller" video... and that you never cranked some random MJ when it came on the radio.... I have no choice but to believe you. You're Mikeyboy! But.... from where I'm sittin'... there's a few too many of you these days. The math just doesn't work.

Well put.

I bet EVERYONE on this board has tried the Moonwalk at least once, maybe in their younger years, before becoming to cool for school (or messageboards, as it were)


And we've all cranked his music at one time or another.

Your absolutely right. The rest of you lying pricks can keep on foolin yourselves, but me and fezident know whats up.

[Death Metal Moe]

I admit I've been spinning Bad and Thriller a little more than normal the past few days. The rest of the stuff, not so much. Even Thriller sounds very dated in parts. Lots of Atari sounding bleeps and bloops.

[fezident]

2600 or 5200?

[mikeyboy]

Well put.

I bet EVERYONE on this board has tried the Moonwalk at least once, maybe in their younger years, before becoming to cool for school (or messageboards, as it were)


And we've all cranked his music at one time or another.

Your absolutely right. The rest of you lying pricks can keep on foolin yourselves, but me and fezident know whats up.

Not me. Seriously. I'd admit it if I had.

[strawberrypop]

Best last 2 paragraphs EVER.

Jackson’s will answers some questions, raises more (http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/jacksons-will-answers-some-questions-raises-more/)

In the day’s final development, a London woman filed a 93-page handwritten document in Los Angeles Superior Court claiming she was Jackson’s secret wife and the mother of all three of his children.

In asking for all of Jackson’s assets, the woman also added: “I have up to 30 children. My Father (Satan the Devil) Khalid Lucifer as he is known, gave them to us.”

[fezident]

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[TheMojoPin]

Ehhhhhhhhhhh.

[fezident]

Grrrrrrrrr.

[zildjian361]

good lord will this thread ever end

[TheMojoPin]

Good Lord, will anyone ever stop forcing you to read it?

[sr71blackbird]

That rehearsal.... meh

[Gvac]

That skinny little drugged-out fruit couldn't even dance anymore.

No wonder he was so depressed.

[sr71blackbird]

ENDLESS (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090701/D995U5G80.html) supply of music in Jacksons vaults.

[fezident]

That skinny little drugged-out fruit couldn't even dance anymore.

No wonder he was so depressed.

You were expecting more "oomph" from a REHEARSAL?!
High standards indeed, my friend.

[fezident]

good lord will this thread ever end

Best fuckin' thread since "WOLF SHIRT", mmmbudday!

[zildjian361]

Good Lord, will anyone ever stop forcing you to read it?

i aint reading it Mojo im just keepin the thread alive:wink:

[Judge Smails]

TORONTO — Arland Bruce might have thought it would be a thriller but the CFL decided it was simply bad.

The league fined the Toronto slotback an undisclosed amount Thursday for his touchdown celebration in the Argos' season-opening win over the Hamilton Tiger-Cats on Wednesday. Bruce said he was paying tribute to Michael Jackson. The CFL called it "excessive."

After scoring on a 21-yard pass from Kerry Joseph to put Toronto ahead 6-0, Bruce removed his helmet, shoulder pads and uniform top, then laid down in the end zone.

Bruce said he was simply honouring Jackson's memory by pretending to be buried. The game's referee saw it differently and gave Bruce two objectionable conduct penalties.

"The commissioner has always said he wants the players to have fun, but you can't go over the line," said a CFL spokesman. "It's not always easy to draw that line, but when you remove your equipment to lay down and delay the game, like he did, that's where we draw the line."

The Argonauts said Thursday they support the league's ruling.

"The issue has been addressed internally by head coach Bart Andrus and his coaching staff and the club is confident that any future touchdown celebrations by Argonauts players will be conducted within the rules of the CFL game," the team said in a release.

"It should be noted that Arland apologized of his own volition to his teammates in today's team meeting."

In an interview after the game, Andrus said he had spoken with Bruce.

"I made the mistake of telling him in camp that once he got to the end zone I didn't care what he did," Andrus said. "But he's straight with it now and I think next time around he will celebrate in an appropriate manner."



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[Fallon]

Why not just moonwalk or do a spin.

Even the CFL celebrations suck.

[lleeder]

Thats what he was doing!!!! All this time I thought it was the Ed McMahon,Farrah Fawcett...and so on.

[TripleSkeet]

Awesome celebration.

[Judge Smails]

Did anyone else notice the Sirius logo right on the field? No mention of XM though.

[PapaBear]

Did anyone else notice the Sirius logo right on the field? No mention of XM though.
They are different companies in Canada.

[Judge Smails]

They are different companies in Canada.

Wow. I just learned something new today. Thanks PapaBear.

[hanso]

The video of the wr is the best mj tribute ever took what 10 seconds.
If only all other media should do the same rather then 2 weeks worth.

[TheMojoPin]

Suddenly Gvac has a personal stake in this story. (http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/07/if-god-wore-a-shirt/)

[fezident]

Awesome!!!!!!!!

[SonOfSmeagol]

Can you just imagine – it’s all a hoax. He shows up at his first scheduled concert later this month, holds that side-view pose for a full fifteen minutes, dare I say wearing a painted-on autopsy “Y” scar or similar-type shirt. Who else could pull that off, and who else would you expect to do so. Man o man.

[SatCam]

Can you just imagine – it’s all a hoax. He shows up at his first scheduled concert later this month, holds that side-view pose for a full fifteen minutes, dare I say wearing a painted-on autopsy “Y” scar or similar-type shirt. Who else could pull that off, and who else would you expect to do so. Man o man.

no one would be at the concert

[KnoxHarrington]

Well, this is interesting...Jacko was apparently using an extremely strong sedative, usually only used by anesthesiologists to put patients under for surgery or induce coma on patients on ventilators, as a way to occasionally catch some zzz's.

[Diprivan] is making headlines with the claim from a nurse who worked for pop icon Michael Jackson that the singer, who died June 25, had repeatedly asked her about the drug. Nurse Cherilyn Lee told CNN that Jackson had brought up Diprivan about three months ago, saying he needed it for insomnia and that his doctor said it was safe.

"He said, 'I am so sleepy. I cannot sleep. I want to have at least eight hours of sleep,'" Lee told CNN's Anderson Cooper.

The medication, whose generic name is propofol, renders the patient unconscious for as long as doctors deem necessary. The patient wakes up almost immediately after the infusion is stopped, experts say.

But treating sleep disorders is not an approved use of the drug. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration says Diprivan should be given only by people trained in the administration of general anesthesia and who are not involved in the conduct of the surgery or diagnostic procedure.

The general anesthetic has the effect of making patients feel well-rested when they wake up from it, said Dr. Hector Vila, chairman of the Ambulatory Surgery Committee for the American Society of Anesthesiologists.

Vila gives the drug to all of his patients who are getting office procedures in areas such as urology, dentistry and gynecology. It is also the most common anesthetic for colonoscopies, he said.

"I have never heard of anyone using it for the treatment of a sleep disorder," he said.

Well, I guess it's used that way when you got the cash to find a doc willing to give it to you.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/02/diprivan.propofol.jackson/index.html

[cougarjake13]

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Why not just moonwalk or do a spin.

Even the CFL celebrations suck.



how the hell is lying on the ground pretending to bedead in a coffin, a tribute ??



like fallon said do a moonwalk


or do part of the thriller dance, or just grab your crotch like mj did

[sr71blackbird]

Unseen police interview from a few years ago

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/video/?vxSiteId=6d2e103b-e170-4f86-9c51-6eac37f8a93e&vxChannel=News&vxClipId=2160_390945&vxBitrate=300

[PapaBear]

A few years? Try 12. I'd like to see the "Lie to Me" guy watch this tape.

[TooLowBrow]

this board is going to get even cattier when madonna dies later this year

[Dude!]

Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble debuted with Texas Flood in '83 and it was the first music I could relate to from the 80's.

I was listening to classic rock, 70's punk, and old country and blues records when I was in high school, not Flock Of Seagulls, Def Leppard, or Ozzy.



who couldn't love Flock of Seagulls?
granted, they were the butt-ugliest
assemblage of euro-trash in history
but they had two really great songs!



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[furie]

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[brettmojo]

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[TheMojoPin]

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The comments on the various YouTube clips of this are hysterical. Apparently these people aren't familiar with shadows.

[lleeder]

The comments on the various YouTube clips of this are hysterical. Apparently these people aren't familiar with shadows.

I think they don't like to be called that.

[TheMojoPin]

I think they don't like to be called that.

Nobody cares what nerds think.

[red_red_red]

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/643/omgonozwwwfreeavatarscocy3.gif
it looked like a prepubescent boy...no need for all the panic

[Bob Impact]

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Am I the only person who started singing Thriller when they saw the "ghost"?

[sr71blackbird]

I do not see it, where in the hallway is it suppose to be?

[Doctor Z]

Wow, he really was a Howard Hughes type. I bet he locked himself up in there for days, urinating in jars, and asking for milk.

[thepaulo]

Today's the day.
Panic in the streets,
LA in a state of emergency.

[sr71blackbird]

I heard a joke today:
Farrah Fawcetts dying wish was to save the children and poof! Michael Jackson died!

[Contra]

I heard a joke today:
Farrah Fawcetts dying wish was to save the children and poof! Michael Jackson died!

Yeah that and the LEGOs one have been making the rounds for about a week now.

Does anyone know what station is going to broadcast the memorial?

[Misteriosa]

Yeah that and the LEGOs one have been making the rounds for about a week now.

Does anyone know what station is going to broadcast the memorial?

i have cnn.com ready for live online streaming. i think all the major networks are gonna be broadcasting this.

[Contra]

Thanks, got it on NBC

[TonyStark]

Watching it on NBC right now as well..

[Sue_Bender]

Wow, Paris (and especially the perpetually gum-chewing Prince) seemed bored until it was time to talk.

Am I far too jaded...or did her "My daddy was the best..." seem like a Jackson Family stunt?

[Contra]

Damn that was a good show, except for Carey. His family speaking at the end really got me, especially his daughter.

[Lady Resin]

Damn that was a good show, except for Carey.

And Rev. Al.

[red_red_red]

Wow, Paris (and especially the perpetually gum-chewing Prince) seemed bored until it was time to talk.

Am I far too jaded...or did her "My daddy was the best..." seem like a Jackson Family stunt?
you are far too jaded...that was some sad shit. i got teary....those kids are gorgeous. i hope granny jackson takes those kids and runs far away from the egg donor mother.

[Sue_Bender]

you are far too jaded...that was some sad shit. i got teary....those kids are gorgeous. i hope granny jackson takes those kids and runs far away from the egg donor mother.


I know...I felt bad about thinking that.

However, the moment didn't seem "quite right".

If there's a Hell.



I'll Be There.

[TheMojoPin]

I know...I felt bad about thinking that.

However, the moment didn't seem "quite right".

If there's a Hell.



I'll Be There.

Silly you.

Internet characters don't go anywhere when they die.

[Sue_Bender]

Silly you.

Internet characters don't go anywhere when they die.


You're a boorish twat, "MojoPin".

[ANC]

Holy Shit!!!!!! Michael Jackson died?!?!?

When the hell did this happen!?!?!?

Why wasn't I told!!!!!!????

[Sue_Bender]

Holy Shit!!!!!! Michael Jackson died?!?!?

When the hell did this happen!?!?!?

Why wasn't I told!!!!!!????


Yes.

June 25, 2009.

It was an oversight. Sorry.

[ANC]

Yes.

June 25, 2009.

It was an oversight. Sorry.

:glurps: A victim of the modern age, poor poor boy.

[lleeder]

:glurps: A victim of the modern age, poor poor boy.

Try the jesus juice

[TooLowBrow]

whyd his daughter have to speak in front of everyone?

that was terrible

[fezident]

In my opinion, MJ's daughter was not really crying.

Maybe I don't understand "crying" but... a person can't SOB like that and not have one single tear.

[TooLowBrow]

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there was nothing strange about michael jackson