The "I disagree with Ron" thread

[ToiletCrusher]

There is far too many anti-Fez or anti-Fez opinion threads.

I imagine that some people here disagree with Ron as well.

So, here's the place to do so.

Today, when speaking about Susan Boyle, I disagreed with Ron.

His point of view was that she should be allowed to do whatever she wants and continue on with the talent show as long as she wanted. No one should govern her decisions and say otherwise.

That's silly.

He went as far to compare Susan Boyle to professional athletes saying that if it is their decision to continue playing, let them do it. Well, when a player of a professional team suffers from problems, leagues step in. Be it a drug problem, run in with the law, whatever, the respective league steps in. They mandate the player to adhere to said rules and if they are having issues outside the sport, they are subjected to certain penalties.

Why should this be any different than the show in question?

This woman showed an inability to handle life in the spotlight. The producers of the show should have stepped in and acted on it. Perhaps pulling her from a few shows, or providing some sort of therapy to help her cope with her new found stardom or possibly, pulling her from the show all together.

I'm not saying that all media should be managed in such a way but there are instances where this type of approach would be beneficial to the individual. I mean, we aren't talking about a person who had a career as an amateur musician who gradually worked their way up to fame. She was transplanted from being a homely lady with a voice to something of a national icon.

Okay. That's it. Bash away if you want.

Just remember, this thread is intended for those who disagree with the person's name who comes first in the show's title.

[Susan Boyle]

You're a bloody wanker.

Keep your opinions to yourself, you filthy Yank!!!

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[GreatAmericanZero]

i disagreed with Ron when he was saying that "Long Island Sucks" the other day

Long Island steps up!

[IMSlacker]

As much as I believe that he belongs in the Hall of Fame, Ron Santo is not a good broadcaster.

Pat Hughes, however, is excellent.

[RhinoinMN]

I wonder when Ron Diaz will show up in this thread?

[TheMojoPin]

As much as I believe that he belongs in the Hall of Fame, Ron Santo is not a good broadcaster.

Pat Hughes, however, is excellent.

Wait, Ron said Santo is a good broadcaster?

...

Has he actually heard Santo?

[IMSlacker]

Wait, Ron said Santo is a good broadcaster?

...

Has he actually heard Santo?

Yeah, he said he "enjoyed" Santo. He must have been thinking of someone else.

[badorties]

i disagreed with Ron when he was saying that "Long Island Sucks" the other day

Long Island steps up!

although, i usually might not agree with a guy from philly/tampa criticizing the NY area -- i'm a 100% on his side

his love of steely dan and the doors irks me a bit, but who's perfect

[Enabler]

Rons take on tailgating pisses me off. I know Ron cant drink, an thinks that having male friends is gay, but he needs to lay off the tailgate bashing.

[jab]

Rons take on tailgating pisses me off. I know Ron cant drink, an thinks that having male friends is gay, but he needs to lay off the tailgate bashing.

gay.

[paracetamol flanders]

I am a Scrapple denier. Like the Chupacabra and the Holocaust, Scrapple is just the fabrication of a drug addled mind. I therefore disagree with Ron regarding its existence.

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Ron says the 1993 World Series never happened. I respectfully disagree and say it was great.

[Ron Diaz]

Ron Bennington is a hack.

[AF Mike]

Personally I could take or leave dessert.
It's certainly not a defining part of the meal.

[jab]

you know, i always thought it would be the o&a board fan people that would turn against their show and help it to fall apart, but nope. ron and fez people. who woulda thunk.

[drjoek]

Can't see this ending well.

[foodcourtdruide]

Why is disagreeing with Ron on some issues considered bashing the show? So bizarre.

[TjM]

I like black people

[Gvac]

Why is disagreeing with Ron on some issues considered bashing the show? So bizarre.

That's how this place has gotten, unfortunately.

If you're not all sunshine and roses and don't absolutely adore every aspect of the show you're a "hater" or a shit stirrer.

[jab]

Why is disagreeing with Ron on some issues considered bashing the show? So bizarre.

you hate ron bennington.

[led37zep]

I like black people

Are you looking for the Anthony Cumia thread?

[underdog]

That's how this place has gotten, unfortunately.

If you're not all sunshine and roses and don't absolutely adore every aspect of the show you're a "hater" or a shit stirrer.

You and spoon have a weird view of this place.

People got fed up with people who only post things that can be considered bashing or attacking of people on the Ron and Fez show. On ronfez.net. The fan message board of the Ron & Fez show.

I'm sure there were some overreactions but the "hater" threads got out of control control for a while. I still don't understand starting a thread because you dislike something on a show on the message board of that show. Wow, you didn't like a segment. Who gives a fuck. Skip that segment and listen to the rest of the show.

[D isf or Dangerous]

Ron was right about Long Island, the name itself should always be underlined by a thin, dark mustache.

However, I disagree with Ron's hatred for "popcorn" movies. I either own or have enjoyed the majority of the movies he has admitted to liking, but I also enjoy some mindless visual entertainment in between all these "thinking mans movies".

For example; I loved Speed Racer purely on an artistic level, but I know damn well that the script was just a vehicle to move from one FX sequence to the next, and was otherwise complete garbage. Im not stupid, I just don't always need to have this connection to a film, sometimes I just want to have some eye candy and go home.

P.s. - I do not own Speed Racer.

[TjM]

Are you looking for the Anthony Cumia thread?

Fuck

I was told to go 2 sets of lights past FBA and take my first right at wackbag

[underdog]

Ron was right about Long Island, the name itself should always be underlined by a thin, dark mustache.

However, I disagree with Ron's hatred for "popcorn" movies. I either own or have enjoyed the majority of the movies he has admitted to liking, but I also enjoy some mindless visual entertainment in between all these "thinking mans movies".

For example; I loved Speed Racer purely on an artistic level, but I know damn well that the script was just a vehicle to move from one FX sequence to the next, and was otherwise complete garbage. Im not stupid, I just don't always need to have this connection to a film, sometimes I just want to have some eye candy and go home.

P.s. - I do not own Speed Racer.

Ron watches all the popcorn movies. He's mentioned it on the show a few times.

[jab]

Fuck

I was told to go 2 sets of lights past FBA and take my first right at wackbag

interestingly, fba was 100 times more positive about the ron and fez show and its peeples than dot net is. unless it had a random girl come on mic that is.

[IMSlacker]

interestingly, fba was 100 times more positive about the ron and fez show and its peeples than dot net is. unless it had a random girl come on mic that is.

I disagree.

[D isf or Dangerous]

Ron watches all the popcorn movies. He's mentioned it on the show a few times.

Well....I stand corrected.

I wish he'd watch and talk about The Spirit....even I hated that piece of garbage.

[jab]

I disagree.

lol ok. why?

[IMSlacker]

lol ok. why?

It wasn't interesting.

[underdog]

Well....I stand corrected.

I wish he'd watch and talk about The Spirit....even I hated that piece of garbage.

He generally dislikes the movies, but there's been quite a few he's liked.

I'm not sure if he's ever brought up The Spirit, though. Dave has, and he hated it.

[GreatAmericanZero]

I disagree.

i dont think there has every been a negative Ron & Fez show thread in the R&F forum the entire history of FBA. If there was, every member wouldve jumped on and destroyed the starter

other aspects of that site, dealing with other fans and alot of O&A stuff near the end was very negative, but no one on that site ever seemed to have anything negative to say about R&F. its a fact

but i don't blame this site for having a lot of negative threads. Its a messageboard..thats what messageboards do. It would be awesome to find a place that elevates above the "AICN Talkback" style of posting but i think that would be impossible. so things are the way they are, i think its pointless to hope for it to be any differently

[jab]

It wasn't interesting.

sry, i are confused. what wasnt interesting?

[foodcourtdruide]

I just find it so odd that people think this board is negative. We love Ron. I find myself shocked when I disagree with him, but it happens occassionally.

[IMSlacker]

sry, i are confused. what wasnt interesting?

Your FBA factoid. You started it out with "interestingly".

I'm just trying to make silly jokes here.

[jab]

hahahaha i totally missed that. i suck. sry.

[CruelCircus]

I didn't like how he dismissed Elvis Costello's work with Allen Toussiant as "that New Orleans crap he's doing."

The River In Reverse (http://www.amazon.com/River-Reverse-Elvis-Costello/dp/B000FA58IY) is an amazing album.

[foodcourtdruide]

For example, in the politics forum me and badmonkey disagree on basically everything. If I thought badmonkey was "bashing" me by disagreeing with my opinions I'd be the craziest fucking person ever.

[ToiletCrusher]

I guess I'm a fucking dope for thinking that you can disagree with Ron or Fez.

This place is filled with hypocrites.

[spankyfrank]

I'm gonna say something that may shock a few people....

I did not care for "No Country For Old Men"

I thought it was subpar at best.

Don't get me wrong I do however like movies such as "Treasure of Sierra Madre" or "Shane" or "Little Murders" (That last one was a bit obscure)

Anyway yea I just didn't care for the love fest Ronnie gave for that movie that wasn't very spectacular to me.....

Love me:wub:

[lleeder]

I guess I'm a fucking dope for thinking that you can disagree with Ron or Fez.

This place is filled with hypocrites.

Ron thinks the same thing. Hypocrite.

[Gvac]

Ron thinks Pink Floyd is brilliant and AC/DC sucks.

For this I can never forgive him.

Or agree with him.

[spankyfrank]

Ron thinks Pink Floyd is brilliant and AC/DC sucks.

For this I can never forgive him.

Or agree with him.

I also don't get why Queen is NEVER mentioned on the show. I should think that band would be up both Ron & Fez's alley.

[Gvac]

I also don't get why Queen is NEVER mentioned on the show. I should think that band would be up both Ron & Fez's alley.

Ron's mentioned them before. He said Freddie Mercury was Broadway meets Vegas, if I'm not mistaken.

I think he felt the band was style over substance.

[foodcourtdruide]

Ron thinks Pink Floyd is brilliant and AC/DC sucks.

For this I can never forgive him.

Or agree with him.


I disagree with you gvac.

Wow, this board is soooooo negative towards gvac lately.

[spankyfrank]

Ron's mentioned them before. He said Freddie Mercury was Broadway meets Vegas, if I'm not mistaken.

I think he felt the band was style over substance.

Well then there is a point that I definetly DISAGREE with Ronnie. I think Queen is a fantastic band and I'll go so far as to say that they are the most UNDER RATED band in rock history because of how Freddie Mercury died.

Again Love me:wub:

[dickydean]

I have listened to just about every show since they came to XM and all thou I think Ron is a great interviewer and has a really great slant on life. I certainly can't agree with him on everything. I don't think he would agree with me on everything I may spout off on but I don't think he wants a bunch of sheep. What fun would that be?
PS I like Queen and used to drive my daughter around listening to them till she would fall asleep she's 25 now and still likes them.

[Devo37]

I'm gonna say something that may shock a few people....

I did not care for "No Country For Old Men"

I thought it was subpar at best.

Don't get me wrong I do however like movies such as "Treasure of Sierra Madre" or "Shane" or "Little Murders" (That last one was a bit obscure)

Anyway yea I just didn't care for the love fest Ronnie gave for that movie that wasn't very spectacular to me.....

Love me:wub:

i didn't think Resevoir Dogs was all that great. Nothing wrong with it, it was an enjoyable movie, but hardly deserving of the praise Ron and ESD give it on the show.

[lleeder]

Frosted mini wheats are great. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78153&highlight=frosted)

[Juliejulez]

You're a bloody wanker.

Keep your opinions to yourself, you filthy Yank!!!

I second that notion! :thumbup:

[underdog]

For example, in the politics forum me and badmonkey disagree on basically everything. If I thought badmonkey was "bashing" me by disagreeing with my opinions I'd be the craziest fucking person ever.

But you are bashing badmonkey.

[Dirtbag]

I disagree with most of his tastes in movies in general, and his complete disregard for anything animated specifically. Not a big fan of his taste in music either, but I'm sure mine would get torn to shreds by most people here too.

[D isf or Dangerous]

I disagree with most of his tastes in movies in general, and his complete disregard for anything animated specifically. Not a big fan of his taste in music either, but I'm sure mine would get torn to shreds by most people here too.

Well, honestly my musical taste has actually grown because of both the show openings and Ron's own comments. But I think its because we have similar opinions on music itself.

And yes, he does seem to crap all over animated movies, and that does annoy me to no end.

[BeerBandit]

Cartoons are an acceptable form of entertainment for adults.

Warren Zevon is unlistenable dreck.

Tool a brilliant band.

[led37zep]

Hey Ron,

Dave Matthews Band isn't that bad.

Love,
Chad

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Rons take on tailgating pisses me off. I know Ron cant drink, an thinks that having male friends is gay, but he needs to lay off the tailgate bashing.

no, they deserve his wrath and more.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Ron Bennington is a hack.

Old hat my friend.

[mikeyboy]

I don't like the Doors. I even decided to give them a second chance when Ron said he was going to give Tool a second chance. I still don't like them.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

i was gonna blast mikeyboy and call him a so..sh...socish... socsh... that term from outsiders the opposite of greasers. but i realized there's no fucking way I can spell correctly the term sochses... socsh... fuck this post, i shouldn't have to do research in a dictionary for a made up word.

[JPMNICK]

I think I disagree with his stance on college athletes getting paid. It is not fair to pay the football team at Florida more then a team at say Georgia. Because so many of those kids are not going pro, way to many opportunities to throw games

[sailor]

I don't like the Doors. I even decided to give them a second chance when Ron said he was going to give Tool a second chance. I still don't like them.

you didn't enjoy the crowe's nest sing-a-long? or was that the night you were hammered?

[Gvac]

I don't like the Doors. I even decided to give them a second chance when Ron said he was going to give Tool a second chance. I still don't like them.

I hope Ron punches you in the face the next time he sees you.

[jab]

"hey, do you have the new depeche mode?"

"SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS"

[mikeyboy]

I hope Ron punches you in the face the next time he sees you.

Kiss ass.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I hope Ron punches you in the face the next time he sees you.

He already has.... *WITH HIS COCK* WOAHHHHHHHHH

sorry I felt like being awesome funny like on a GAZ/BiggestMexi level of Hahilarity. If ever this site had cancer, they would be the tumors.

I like the Doors myself.

[Gvac]

Kiss ass.

Phony.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Phony.

Don't start with the phucking ph words. It didn't end too well for that other one that spun that trend 'round here.

[ShowerBench]

Buttered babies aren't delicious. Maybe a little olive oil with salt and pepper at most, but even that can overwhelm the flavor.

[mikeyboy]

Phony.

scalawag

[Gvac]

scalawag

rapscallion

[CofyCrakCocaine]

rapscallion

Does this exchange end with one of you adopting a french accent while asking for "oral pleasure"?

[mikeyboy]

rapscallion

ne'er-do-well

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I can see my pleas of rationality are falling upon deaf ears. *leaves*

[Gvac]

ne'er-do-well

hellion

[spankyfrank]

I believe you both should be banned for using terms like that.....

[mikeyboy]

hellion

http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0060-0807-1220-5847_A_Beat_Up_Man_Waving_the_White_Flag_of_Surren der_clipart_image.jpg

[CofyCrakCocaine]

http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0060-0807-1220-5847_A_Beat_Up_Man_Waving_the_White_Flag_of_Surren der_clipart_image.jpg

Rough sex does that to ya, if yer brittle.

[Enabler]

Nixon was the greatest political mind of the last century? I disagree. Aside from the fact that he had the brilliant mind to tape record all of his illegal activities...The ONLY reason he ever became president was because RFK got killed.

ps. Nixon was a knuckle-draggin', tailgatin', flop-sweatin' Redskins fanatic.

[Devo37]

US Beats Spain in Confed Cup. (http://http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9725770/LIVE:-U.S.-vs.-Spain-in-Confederations-Cup)

oh great! now we're gonna have to hear more soccer talk from the world's #1 soccer fan, Ronnie B. :thumbdown:

[AF Mike]

US Beats Spain in Confed Cup. (http://http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9725770/LIVE:-U.S.-vs.-Spain-in-Confederations-Cup)

oh great! now we're gonna have to hear more soccer talk from the world's #1 soccer fan, Ronnie B. :thumbdown:




Well, there's always cricket.


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The channel will also offer live cricket commentary from ATN,
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Hop on the bandwagon before it's too late !!!

[WampusCrandle]

i constantly disagree Ron on films - specifically on Pixar films and the blockbuster films. He tends to act a bit snobbish when it comes to films.

[mikeyboy]

i constantly disagree Ron on films - specifically on Pixar films and the blockbuster films. He tends to act a bit snobbish when it comes to films.

Can we agree that Transformers sucked and this newest incarnation is bound to suck gerbil dick?

[spankyfrank]

Can we agree that Transformers sucked and this newest incarnation is bound to suck gerbil dick?

I will agree to agree....

[CofyCrakCocaine]

This goddamn board has penis on the brain tonight.

[spankyfrank]

You make an interesting disagreement with Ron

[Serpico1103]

Can we agree that Transformers sucked and this newest incarnation is bound to suck gerbil dick?

I am embarrassed for the country that Transformers was a hit, and they are willing to dump hundreds of millions into a sequel.

I am not a blockbuster movie fan. I prefer good dialogue over everything else. However, I enjoy some action, but I can't be entertained by CGI.

[WampusCrandle]

Can we agree that Transformers sucked and this newest incarnation is bound to suck gerbil dick?

no, i wont. I went to that movie purely to see action and to see the cartoon i liked turned into a movie. in those terms, it kicked ass. i plan on seeing the second one. not all films are going to be art, and i don't treat all films the same way when i go to the theaters.

I liked Transformers.

[Bill From Yorktown]

gee I thought this thread was going to be sentenses that will never come out of Dave's mouth?

Dont like tne way Fez was treated today, bit or no bit.

[underdog]

no, i wont. I went to that movie purely to see action and to see the cartoon i liked turned into a movie. in those terms, it kicked ass. i plan on seeing the second one. not all films are going to be art, and i don't treat all films the same way when i go to the theaters.

I liked Transformers.

I thought it was even bad for that. It was a terrible, terrible movie. Even for a blockbuster.

The whole scene with the robuts hanging outside the house and breaking stuff and no one noticing was retarded.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

A movie can't be very good if Michael Bay of all people is embarrassed by it.

[mikeyboy]

Plus, why do they keep giving Shia LeBouf big budget movies? Is there anything remotely compelling about that guy?

[spankyfrank]

Hes cute...

[mikeyboy]

Is he? I honestly had no idea. He looks like a tremendous doof to me.

[spankyfrank]

He got his start with disney, which got him a daytime emmy, so apparently kids like him...

[underdog]

Plus, why do they keep giving Shia LeBouf big budget movies? Is there anything remotely compelling about that guy?

I spent 4 days last week in France and heard la bouffe a lot and laughed every time.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Is he? I honestly had no idea. He looks like a tremendous doof to me.

Obviously little girls like him, since that's been the driving market for all the big budget media hypersensations of the past ten or so years.

[mikeyboy]

I figured it all out.

WAMPUS LOVES SHIA LEBOUF!!!!!

[WampusCrandle]

I thought it was even bad for that. It was a terrible, terrible movie. Even for a blockbuster.

The whole scene with the robuts hanging outside the house and breaking stuff and no one noticing was retarded.

we will have to agree to disagree

Plus, why do they keep giving Shia LeBouf big budget movies? Is there anything remotely compelling about that guy?

he was a Disney star - the star of "Even Stevens"

I figured it all out. WAMPUS LOVES SHIA LEBOUF!!!!!

my secret is out! You're right mikey. I probably would blow Shia LeBouf.

[led37zep]

my secret is out! You're right mikey. I probably would blow Shia LeBouf.

just something to help you sleep better my friend.

http://innerjoejoe.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/shia-labeouf-coachella-02.jpg

[WampusCrandle]

just something to help you sleep better my friend.

http://innerjoejoe.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/shia-labeouf-coachella-02.jpg

I feel ill ... and horny.

[sailor]

I second that notion! :thumbup:

emotion.

[Stuft]

http://innerjoejoe.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/shia-labeouf-coachella-02.jpg

If i could put a bag over his head, it'd be decent batch material. Thankfully, i have post-its.

Thanks!

[TheMojoPin]

no, i wont. I went to that movie purely to see action

Then I'm stunned you didn't hate it. It's a ridiculously long movie where maybe, what, 45 minutes, tops, is made up of "action?"

[spoon]

i dont think there has every been a negative Ron & Fez show thread in the R&F forum the entire history of FBA. If there was, every member wouldve jumped on and destroyed the starter

other aspects of that site, dealing with other fans and alot of O&A stuff near the end was very negative, but no one on that site ever seemed to have anything negative to say about R&F. its a fact

but i don't blame this site for having a lot of negative threads. Its a messageboard..thats what messageboards do. It would be awesome to find a place that elevates above the "AICN Talkback" style of posting but i think that would be impossible. so things are the way they are, i think its pointless to hope for it to be any differently

You really think that's the solution!? Sometimes I think you really have to be a character, bc most of the characters made to rip you don't do your actual posts justice. Bottom line, ur logic is hilarious and how FBA "jumped on and destroyed" people with opinions (even if Udog doesn't understand it) is retarded. It's a FUCKING BOARD to discuss the FUCKING SHOW which rips people and friends more than even we do. Grow a fucking pair and please, shut the fuck up. The dif here bt you and me, I don't think someone should make you stop posting bc I don't personally agree or like your posting style. Again, it's a board with typed messages. For me this place is an aside from life, for you, it's something you seemingly like to use to validate it and that's fucking sad.

[spoon]

I also don't get why Queen is NEVER mentioned on the show. I should think that band would be up both Ron & Fez's alley.

While Fez has been quite at times, they do surely mention him plenty....waaaa waaaaa!

[spoon]

Frosted mini wheats are great. (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=78153&highlight=frosted)

Foster mini wheats are better.


FUNKMAN SPECIAL!



Where the fuck is he?

[spoon]

Cartoons are an acceptable form of entertainment for adults.

Warren Zevon is unlistenable dreck.

Tool a brilliant band.

Can't argue this BB post! Nice work.

[spoon]

I don't like the Doors. I even decided to give them a second chance when Ron said he was going to give Tool a second chance. I still don't like them.

The Doors are fucking trite and just plain boring/bad.

[spoon]

US Beats Spain in Confed Cup. (http://http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/9725770/LIVE:-U.S.-vs.-Spain-in-Confederations-Cup)

oh great! now we're gonna have to hear more soccer talk from the world's #1 soccer fan, Ronnie B. :thumbdown:



Yep, awful.

[TheMojoPin]

The Doors AND Tool are both boring and terrible.

FAIR AND BALANCED.

[spoon]

The Doors AND Tool are both boring and terrible.

FAIR AND BALANCED.

Serious, tool really did only need to put out one cd and one video. They really are the same fucking thing just rehashed in the end.

[Slumbag]

The Doors AND Tool are both boring and terrible.

FAIR AND BALANCED.

The Doors do kinda stink.
Tool may be the funniest band ever.

[Gvac]

Cartoons are an acceptable form of entertainment for adults.

Warren Zevon is unlistenable dreck.

Tool a brilliant band.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Hey Ron,

Dave Matthews Band isn't that bad.

Love,
Chad

Wrong.

[TjM]

I hate how Ron acts like people are fucking retarded morons if they like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies

[TjM]

Cartoons are an acceptable form of entertainment for adults.

Warren Zevon is unlistenable dreck.

Tool a brilliant band.


Right
Wrong
Wrong

[silks]

The Doors blow and the only good Tool song is Hush.

[GreatAmericanZero]

You really think that's the solution!? Sometimes I think you really have to be a character, bc most of the characters made to rip you don't do your actual posts justice. Bottom line, ur logic is hilarious and how FBA "jumped on and destroyed" people with opinions (even if Udog doesn't understand it) is retarded. It's a FUCKING BOARD to discuss the FUCKING SHOW which rips people and friends more than even we do. Grow a fucking pair and please, shut the fuck up. The dif here bt you and me, I don't think someone should make you stop posting bc I don't personally agree or like your posting style. Again, it's a board with typed messages. For me this place is an aside from life, for you, it's something you seemingly like to use to validate it and that's fucking sad.

i didn't post any solutions or say anyone should not post whatever they want. I just posted a statement on how i view things. There was no "this is how to fix this site" or anything like that. All I said was "this messageboard is exactly like every other messageboard..no better". But feel free to respond to whatever idea you think you read

[underdog]

Bottom line, ur logic is hilarious and how FBA "jumped on and destroyed" people with opinions (even if Udog doesn't understand it) is retarded.

How did I get dragged into this?

[A.J.]

How did I get dragged into this?

Because you're black.

[underdog]

Because you're black.

Ouch.

[jab]

i dont think there has every been a negative Ron & Fez show thread in the R&F forum the entire history of FBA. If there was, every member wouldve jumped on and destroyed the starter

other aspects of that site, dealing with other fans and alot of O&A stuff near the end was very negative, but no one on that site ever seemed to have anything negative to say about R&F. its a fact

but i don't blame this site for having a lot of negative threads. Its a messageboard..thats what messageboards do. It would be awesome to find a place that elevates above the "AICN Talkback" style of posting but i think that would be impossible. so things are the way they are, i think its pointless to hope for it to be any differently

absolutely fucking right. (tho fba kept a fair one percentage of rnf hatred with luca) lol

[Crispy123]

I disgree with Ron that big Corporations are better for America and his love of the right wing of the republican party.

[MacVittie]

There was nothing "hot" about the behavior of Penelope Cruz in Vicky Cristina Barcelona

[A.J.]

There was nothing "hot" about the behavior of Penelope Cruz in Vicky Cristina Barcelona

Nor Oscar worthy.

[sailor]

yeah, no one would be thrilled to go back to the moon, especially if we build a base there. complete bullshit.

also, i wonder if people don't follow launches anymore due to the shuttle explosions. they were still huge, late in the game till the first explosion.

[TripleSkeet]

My biggest disagreement is about the cartoons as suitable for adults. In my opinion they are pretty much the only completely honest uncensored form of television left.

[lleeder]

Ron said to be an icon kids have to know you and grandparents have to know you. For that reason he excluded Justin Timberlake as a possible icon of the future. So I did research and asked my 82 yr old grandmother if she knew who Justin Timberlake was. She was pissed. "Of course I know him, I don't live under a rock" she yelled back at me.

[metaregina]

I'll be shocked if my grandmother knows who Justin Timerberlake is (she's 83)... I'll ask her tomorrow.

[booster11373]

How does Bennington know that food tastes different now then when he was a child he has said on numerous occasions that due to years of cigar smoking he has blown out his taste buds

[nickypeeps]

i really hate when he tries to make Fez justify why gay guys want to get married and then he and a bunch of other married callers tell him the reasons are either stupid or selfish like they're any different from the reason he or straight people get married

[MC Pee Pants]

i really hate when he tries to make Fez justify why gay guys want to get married and then he and a bunch of other married callers tell him the reasons are either stupid or selfish like they're any different from the reason he or straight people get married

I also dont like the way he automatically takes the opposite side of Fez's opinions. It seems like he does it just to get Fez talking, then the callers all get behind Ron and its retarded. I dont think kids should be riding bulls either, should we also then make the firefighters and shit? That didnt make any sense.

[sailor]

speaking of marriage, how is it a "failed institution" just because 50% of them fail? don't like 90% of new/small businesses fail in the first year? does that make business ownership a failed institution?

also, of that 50% - what percentage of people getting married actually get divorced? like, lets say there are 4 friends. 3 get married and the marriages last. the other, for whatever reason, gets divorced 3 times. now, 3 out of 6 marriages have failed, but only 25% of the friends involved got divorced. i think it's wrong to count multiple divorces for a single person as it skews the numbers (granted, probably not by a lot).

[Devo37]

i don't like when ron gets mad if fez and the rest have the same opinion as he does on a particular topic, so there's no point-counterpoint discussion.

ron often takes the counterpoint opinion just for the sake of argument, but if fez did the same thing, callers would call in later on and criticize him for being a hypocrite or not being consistent in his opinions.

sometimes everyone agrees that the sky is blue, and even if the discussion goes on, saying that the sky is green isn't really adding anything to the discussion other than dissent just for the sake of it.

[MacVittie]

speaking of marriage, how is it a "failed institution" just because 50% of them fail? don't like 90% of new/small businesses fail in the first year? does that make business ownership a failed institution?

also, of that 50% - what percentage of people getting married actually get divorced? like, lets say there are 4 friends. 3 get married and the marriages last. the other, for whatever reason, gets divorced 3 times. now, 3 out of 6 marriages have failed, but only 25% of the friends involved got divorced. i think it's wrong to count multiple divorces for a single person as it skews the numbers (granted, probably not by a lot).

That's true. And a lot of people get divorced once and then find the person they want to spend the rest of their life with. I think if you do that, you're successful at marriage. If you buy a car and drive double the speed limit or never change the oil, you'll fail at car ownership. That doesn't make it a "failed institution."

[spoon]

That's true. And a lot of people get divorced once and then find the person they want to spend the rest of their life with. I think if you do that, you're successful at marriage. If you buy a car and drive double the speed limit or never change the oil, you'll fail at car ownership. That doesn't make it a "failed institution."

Wait, what!? Wow, to call both this and Sailor's post a stretch is an understatement at best. It's failure because two people make the decision to spend the rest of their lives together and have a family verus people trying/taking a known risk in a business venture or someone not keeping up on the maint of their car. Sorry, can't even come close to agreeing here.

[ruggedo]

I disagree with Ron more then half the time. Music, movies, comics, favorite teams. I cant understand anyone who would agree with him a hundred percent either. The thing is tho I love hearing what he has to say,how he says it, I think I even love hearing everyone give in to his opinions. I keep thinking, "that emperor has no clothes", it makes it fun.
When I go to the carnival I know the games are rigged against me too,but I still play them, thats what I'm there for. When Ron asks for my four hours I let him have them,knowing that the game is rigged, then I sit back and enjoy.

[sailor]

Wait, what!? Wow, to call both this and Sailor's post a stretch is an understatement at best. It's failure because two people make the decision to spend the rest of their lives together and have a family verus people trying/taking a known risk in a business venture or someone not keeping up on the maint of their car. Sorry, can't even come close to agreeing here.

no, they take a known risk (everyone knows the 50% number) to try to spend the rest of their lives together and have a family. you really think people get married and don't know that a lot of them fail? do they expect failure, of course not. even given the staggering numbers against them, neither do the new business owners. it's really not a stretch, it's a valid, logical comparison.

[RaysFever]

I like black people

Now i know this thread is a joke.

[RaysFever]

Ron knows that part of having a compelling show is having people with differing viewpoints, or making the callers upset to the point that they will call and discuss it.

The staff won't always challenge his viewpoints, so sometimes it's up to the callers.

Sometimes he - get this - wants people to disagree with him. You don't have to treat him like a God, he wants you to "be a person".

Disagreeing doesn't make you a hater.

[The Happening]

Yeah, he said he "enjoyed" Santo. He must have been thinking of someone else.
People who don't enjoy Santo on the radio are those overly douche baseball fans who take it waaaaaayyyyy to seriously. Is he great on the radio? No. But he's genuine. It's like watching the game with your friend(If you're a Cubs fan ofcourse). Pat Hughes is very good on the radio, making Santo's common man angle very easy to handle.

[The Happening]

Ron tends to be a contrarian with most topics, so it's hard sometimes to pick out what some of his true opinions are. He does this to spark discussion, and to get different view points out there. Besides, who wants to listen to 3 guys agreeing on everything over the course of 4 hours?

I like Ron for most of the reasons everyone else does. He's one of the funniest guys out there, and a HUGE part of the best show on radio. But I don't think their is a man in the world who gets his ass kissed by more people. I'd love to scream a few things out to him like:

Soccer sucks!

Tom Waits sucks balls, and all of his songs sounds the same. We get it, the Piano was drinking!

The dark haired daughter(Sara Gilbert) from " Roseanne " is fuckn ugly as shit!

We get it! You are the kid who listened to James Brown in his room while all the other kids were listening to white bands. You're so progressive!

"Millers Crossing" was solid, but nothing special. Stop overrating it!

And finally, when you said you were "offended" by John McCain's speech on election night after Obama won, I wanted to throw up in my mouth. Christ, Al Sharpton didn't even make a peep about it. Their is nothing worse then white people saying they are "offended" by something that is looked on as a negative towards another race. It screams fake tits. Besides, their was nothing wrong with McCain's speech!

Wow, that felt good. Ok Ron, you can go back to being the best personality on radio!

[Tears]

That's true. And a lot of people get divorced once and then find the person they want to spend the rest of their life with. I think if you do that, you're successful at marriage. If you buy a car and drive double the speed limit or never change the oil, you'll fail at car ownership. That doesn't make it a "failed institution."

"Till death do us part". It's fucking failed in what it stands to be. You were never supposed to be married more than once.

And yes Ron we get it. Music is only cool and hip when it's played by some heroin fag from the village.

[Gvac]

No wonder Ron hates you people.

[A.J.]

I don't like the Doors. I even decided to give them a second chance when Ron said he was going to give Tool a second chance. I still don't like them.

I hope Ron punches you in the face the next time he sees you.

Or HTG.

[Gerald]

If I did disagree with him on something I certainly wouldn't try to phone in and debate him on it. The man is surgical at defending his stances.

[Dudeman]

Ron was against the new possible overtime for the NFL because it isn't "football." While I agree that it sounds like a stupid idea, but his rationale isn't too smart for a soccer fan. His beloved soccer will allow a game to end with a shootout. What does that have to do with soccer?

[Dudeman]

.

[RENFIELD]

tell someone he's marrying a whore?
(nicely of course)

NEVER.. RON'S WRONG THERE...

EVEN IF YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'LL BE RESENTED...

Angry now and not talk to you ?
How about later when you have an 'i told you so'
hanging over their head ?
(whether you say it or not)

BEST OF INTENTIONS...
BUT PEOPLE WILL NATURALLY
FIND THE FAULT WITH YOU.. NOT THE WHORE...

[The Happening]

Ron definitely gets the William Wallace treatment.

[instrument]

Ron should stop trying to sing along with songs he doesn't know.

And don't try to read on air again either.

[sailor]

tell someone he's marrying a whore?
(nicely of course)

NEVER.. RON'S WRONG THERE...

EVEN IF YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'LL BE RESENTED...

Angry now and not talk to you ?
How about later when you have an 'i told you so'
hanging over their head ?
(whether you say it or not)

BEST OF INTENTIONS...
BUT PEOPLE WILL NATURALLY
FIND THE FAULT WITH YOU.. NOT THE WHORE...

i might have missed a show, but i'm sure i've heard ron say this exact thing in the past. i think you may be wrong on this one.

[jlehane3]

and with ESD about getting his coke stolen in the subway by a homeless is funny...very LEVETATING.(like a mag-lev leviton train that goes transcontinental Mach2). But when Ron lays into Fez it's sometimes like kicking a man whose down.Surely they are comfortable with just how far the beatings of Fez can go,but at times I wonder if it's helpful until just rather recently when ANGRY FEZ sticks up for himself. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/j3lehane/MarsManFestive032a01d83345f23LBB2.jpg Ron---"Don't worry about it.I'll deal with it MY way."

[The Ogre]

Ron should stop trying to sing along with songs he doesn't know.

And don't try to read on air again either.

He should also never try to mock someone out for their accent or messing up a word. That mispronoucing mumble mouthed Philly thing he has going on is worse than almost any other accent.

[Serpico1103]

speaking of marriage, how is it a "failed institution" just because 50% of them fail? don't like 90% of new/small businesses fail in the first year? does that make business ownership a failed institution?

also, of that 50% - what percentage of people getting married actually get divorced? like, lets say there are 4 friends. 3 get married and the marriages last. the other, for whatever reason, gets divorced 3 times. now, 3 out of 6 marriages have failed, but only 25% of the friends involved got divorced. i think it's wrong to count multiple divorces for a single person as it skews the numbers (granted, probably not by a lot).

Bad analogy. A business has to succeed to continue. A marriage can continue even if it is a miserable failure.
Unhappy marriages are a bigger failure than a divorce. A divorce allows both people to seek happiness. An unhappy marriage prevents either person from finding happiness.

Marriages served a purpose that didn't fit with our nature, but was required by society. Society has evolved where marriage is no longer as necessary with women being able to support themselves and the state being so militant about child support.

[jlehane3]

He should also never try to mock someone out for their accent or messing up a word. That mispronoucing mumble mouthed Philly thing he has going on is worse than almost any other accent. but then I'm frum Dull-aware:tongue:

[RENFIELD]

i might have missed a show, but i'm sure i've heard ron say this exact thing in the past. i think you may be wrong on this one.


i think you're right... he probably did say otherwise before...
but you did miss a show...
this time he said the opposite...


Ron likened it to the people who told him he had a problem with drugs...
even though he didn't listen...
he was mad at people (like fez)... for not having his best interest at heart...
and kep their mouths shut...
(a no win situation)

it was a moral conumdrum question about
telling a guy about his bad choice of a bride...

[drjoek]

i think you're right... he probably did say otherwise before...
but you did miss a show...
this time he said the opposite...


Ron likened it to the people who told him he had a problem with drugs...
even though he didn't listen...
he was mad at people (like fez)... for not having his best interest at heart...
and kep their mouths shut...
(a no win situation)

it was a moral conumdrum question about
telling a guy about his bad choice of a bride...



I'm all for telling someone you care about that you are concerned about the personal choices they are making. However I don't get the point of view where he said you should tell someone you don't think the person they are with is right for them.
First who are we to judge what woman or man is right for someone?
Second who appointed you the one who knows a person is ok or not. That's a choice to be made by the person. Not to be judged by others. Someone else is a better judge of who you want to be with than the person himself?
Crazy talk.

[RENFIELD]

First who are we to judge what woman or man is right for someone?
Crazy talk.


ABSOLUTELY...
amen to that !

[West.Coast.Skippy]

ron used to say that fez's "homo say what?" "what?" gag interrupted the flow of the show. but that joke in no way disrupted the flow as much as ron's "i got two radio shows" "gag" response.

[lleeder]

ron used to say that fez's "homo say what?" "what?" gag interrupted the flow of the show. but that joke in no way disrupted the flow as much as ron's "i got two radio shows" "gag" response.

I disagree with your disagreement.

In Ron's, Ron responds quickly while the person usually continues to speak.

In Fez's, the caller stops and waits for Fez to respond or Ron has to wait for Fez to respond. He then either responds or doesn't. If he does it leads to a discussion as to why he responded and if he doesn't it leads to a discussion of why he didn't responded.

[disneyspy]

i get the feelin this thread is the equivalent of the nerd star trek conventions,the only reason i clicked on it was cuz i saw a post by lleeder,in the words of william shatner,"get a life people"

[West.Coast.Skippy]

I disagree with your disagreement.

In Ron's, Ron responds quickly while the person usually continues to speak.

In Fez's, the caller stops and waits for Fez to respond or Ron has to wait for Fez to respond. He then either responds or doesn't. If he does it leads to a discussion as to why he responded and if he doesn't it leads to a discussion of why he didn't responded.

lleeder, great to hear from you as always.

here's the trick that ron has pulled: ron is the one that stopped fez on air with discussion about should fez or shouldn't fez respond to that joke. then it's ron that says the joke disrupts the flow of the show! disrupts it because ron would want to debate with fez about the effect of the joke. very clever ron!

[lleeder]

lleeder, great to hear from you as always.

here's the trick that ron has pulled: ron is the one that stopped fez on air with discussion about should fez or shouldn't fez respond to that joke. then it's ron that says the joke disrupts the flow of the show! disrupts it because ron would want to debate with fez about the effect of the joke. very clever ron!

Yeah I see your point there. I think we can throw both "bits" in the "Miss ______" and "nominating ______ for the beanie cup" section of the show.

[jab]

i get the feelin this thread is the equivalent of the nerd star trek conventions,the only reason i clicked on it was cuz i saw a post by lleeder,in the words of william shatner,"get a life people"

i would agree with you on this point which i agree with, but star trek is awesome and its brilliance far surpasses shatner's peanut sized vapid actor brain.

[West.Coast.Skippy]

Yeah I see your point there. I think we can throw both "bits" in the "Miss ______" and "nominating ______ for the beanie cup" section of the show.

you're right, it is futile to try and dissect anything remotely resembling a bit.

"i've written a song for you fez"
"ok"
"ya ever try to have files an ya couldn' find em? /
ya need ta back em up with carrrr-ba-nite. /"
"that's a good song. good lyrics!"
"it's a good song, it's good lyric."

[disneyspy]

i would agree with you on this point which i agree with, but star trek is awesome and its brilliance far surpasses shatner's peanut sized vapid actor brain.

ladies and gentlemen,exhibit a)

[jab]

hurtful.

[disneyspy]

hurtful.

ITS TOO HOT!

[Gerald]

I disagree with Ron's assessment of Forrest Gump. I think it's overly flippant of him to trash the film as a POS whenever the opportunity presents itself. He should just say it's overrated and leave it at that instead of going below the belt or exaggerating the degree to which he think it failed. Something with that much humanity and directorial craftsmanship doesn't deserve to be categorized alongside Disaster Movie.

[instrument]

Michael jackson wasn't the first person that had choreographed dance moves, all those temptation groups were dancing around and pointing like retards.

[instrument]

And ron, green lantern is one of the most popular ongoing series.

Since fez doesn't seem to know much about comics.

[MacVittie]

Michael jackson wasn't the first person that had choreographed dance moves, all those temptation groups were dancing around and pointing like retards.

The Temptations had like four moves. They'd do a little hand jive and then twirl around. MJ actually danced.

[instrument]

The Temptations had like four moves. They'd do a little hand jive and then twirl around. MJ actually danced.

you're kidding right?
go watch the "first moonwalk" video of mj
he does this elvis foot twist thing
moon walks twice
and does that foot kick.

3 moves.

don't confuse music video mike with actual performance mike

[ToiletCrusher]

Farting in a bathroom is just the place to do it.

Sometimes you don't have to poop, just fart.

What are you supposed to do, go into a stall, sit down like a chick, piss and fart when you don't have to poop?

Stupid and a waste of water.

[SPAMMY]

www.contrarypeoplebeingcontrary.com

[RMPGP]

you're kidding right?
go watch the "first moonwalk" video of mj
he does this elvis foot twist thing
moon walks twice
and does that foot kick.

3 moves.

don't confuse music video mike with actual performance mike

"first moonwalk" = every mj performance ever done?

[realmenhatelife]

Farting in a bathroom is just the place to do it.

Sometimes you don't have to poop, just fart.

What are you supposed to do, go into a stall, sit down like a chick, piss and fart when you don't have to poop?

Stupid and a waste of water.

The notion that going behind a stall door to stand there and fart is acceptable but farting at the urinal is not is completely insane. And that I could stand somewhere with my dick in my hand is fair play but if I rip one it's over the line doesn't make any sense.

[Gvac]

Anyone who disagrees with Ron about anything is a scumbag and a communist.

Fucking creeps.

[biggirl]

Anyone who disagrees with Ron about anything is a scumbag and a communist.

Fucking creeps.

I agree...he is one fucking hilarious dude.

[Friday]

I agree...he is one fucking hilarious dude.

hilarious.... FULLY.

but he is not a deity.
he is a human being.
and therefore is flawed, as we all are.

if you never disagreed with Ron then how could you count yourself as an independent thinker?

respect ron... YES. ALWAYS.
as you would respect any other human being.

but to never disagree would mean you are just another of the lemmings....

[sailor]

Farting in a bathroom is just the place to do it.

Sometimes you don't have to poop, just fart.

What are you supposed to do, go into a stall, sit down like a chick, piss and fart when you don't have to poop?

Stupid and a waste of water.

that's one of the craziest things ron's ever said. i think you're supposed to pee at the urinal, then go into a stall and hide/fart.

[Gvac]

Farting in a bathroom is just the place to do it.

Sometimes you don't have to poop, just fart.

What are you supposed to do, go into a stall, sit down like a chick, piss and fart when you don't have to poop?

Stupid and a waste of water.

that's one of the craziest things ron's ever said. i think you're supposed to pee at the urinal, then go into a stall and hide/fart.

You're both insane.

Ron was 100% correct on this one.

Go ahead and fart at the urinal you low life scumbags.

It will reveal the content of your character immediately.

[Scott from the Future]

You're both insane.

Ron was 100% correct on this one.

Go ahead and fart at the urinal you low life scumbags.

It will reveal the content of your character immediately.


I agree completely. All these idiots saying they fart at a urinal may as well let em rip in the office, or in a restaurant, "because I had to!" It's called self control. For once in your lives, think about someone else's comfort.

[Gvac]

I agree completely. All these idiots saying they fart at a urinal may as well let em rip in the office, or in a restaurant, "because I had to!" It's called self control. For once in your lives, think about someone else's comfort.

I hope the future is as bright as you make it seem.

[ToiletCrusher]

I hope the future is as bright as you make it seem.

You know better.

The future is bleak and cold.

You will not find yourself in false hope.

[Gvac]

You know better.

The future is bleak and cold.

You will not find yourself in false hope.

If you're there farting all over the place the future is indeed bleak.

[ToiletCrusher]

If you're there farting all over the place the future is indeed bleak.

I don't fart. That is barbaric.

I break wind like a real gentleman.

[sailor]

you dolts are saying to go three feet away. what impact will that have on any noise or odor? bunch of effete nancies.

[boken-a]

Jesus Christ, we get it, Ron. You are the original, mack-daddy, king-of-cool, know-it-all perceiver of all that is cool in the entire universe. You can take a goddamn break and relax.

Not only don't you listen to songs, you talk over them - killing the hook and ALSO killing the song. Shut the fuck up or don't play music, you fucking too-cool-for-the room, always reaching for a joke, fake, phony character, piece of shit.

Love the show. ;)

P.S. : Is Fez Gay?

[instrument]

The flash BLOWS.

[mikeyboy]

The flash BLOWS.

The former intern or the superhero?

[sailor]

The former intern or the superhero?

one and the same?

[realmenhatelife]

From now on when I fart at a urinal I'm going to turn to my neighbor and say "Ron Benington says hello."

[Gvac]

From now on when I fart at a urinal I'm going to turn to my neighbor and say "Ron Benington says hello."

Fantastic.

Seriously.

[drjoek]

If I'm not mistaken Ron was saying that Anthony Cumia was one of the smartest people he's ever met.
Uh
Ok

[ToiletCrusher]

Sorry, Ron!

I think that we will always have a problem with nudity in this country. At least for the next couple of generations.

The big difference you are missing is that these nude pictures of now teens and 20 somethings is that they are on the internet.

Though public, they are not on the streets doing it.

[strawberrypop]

Yeah. If the dirty hippies didn't get us completely past it, these dummies sure won't.

[Mr.Misery]

Jesus Christ, we get it, Ron. You are the original, mack-daddy, king-of-cool, know-it-all perceiver of all that is cool in the entire universe. You can take a goddamn break and relax.

Not only don't you listen to songs, you talk over them - killing the hook and ALSO killing the song. Shut the fuck up or don't play music, you fucking too-cool-for-the room, always reaching for a joke, fake, phony character, piece of shit.

THANK YOU. I think Ron is great, but come on people, don't you realize that he's set himself up as the "daddy" of the show--the one guy who NOBODY can touch, make fun of, bust balls--and yet he complains of the fact that everyone looks to him without thinking for themselves? I agree with what he has to say a lot of the time, but what irritates me more than his opinions is his tone...the tone that he sets for the show by making himself the 'Don' of the gaing, the king of cool, the guy who's too hip for the room and constantly talks about his luxurious lifestyle of upper east side Manhattan living and fine dining. I think he probably doesn't realize how much of a snob he can come off sometimes, and that not everybody lives in a large, culturally rich and affluent metropolitan part of the world like Manhattan. Not everybody has the money or the opportunity to dine out five nights a week at some fancy Italian restaurant or some place that only serves "farm-fresh, free-range" steaks; he goes on and on sometimes about how people don't take the time to enjoy the "finer things" in life...well, not everybody makes the millions you do for four hours work a day, buddy...and, this is a little off the topic, but I'd be willing to bet anything if you were to conduct a blind taste test, Ron would not be able to tell the difference between his fine "free-range" steak and one from the local supermarket. Just stop acting like everything's so much better the way you do it, and that us knuckle-dragging oafs don't have the good taste and sophisticated palate that you do. It's bullshit. And stop referring to your wife as "my chick". You're married. You have a wife and kids. There's nothing 'uncool' about that. So stop acting like it's more hip to call your spouse your "chick".

And Fez gets set up, daily, to sound like a crazy person. Ron constantly bitches about how the show always comes back to his personal problems, but you know what: that's mostly because Ron sets it up that way; he will DELIBERATELY introduce a topic that he KNOWS will elicit a reaction from Fez that he can pick at and ridicule. Why does the gay marriage thing come up so much? Because, often (but not always) Ron goads Fez into an argument that goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing, other than to make Fez look like a lunatic. There are too many examples to name them all, but here are a few: the 'deer relocation' thing, the gay marriage thing, the kids playing in the street, the Susan Boyle thing. Most often, Ron is the one who brings up the topic, and I have to believe, as smart as he seems to be, that he knows exactly what he's doing. When Fez was going off on Dave the other day, Ron was so obviously pulling the strings, provoking Fez into asking why Dave only goes after him and not Ron. Well, the answer is simple: NOBODY GOES AFTER RON. He makes himself the daddy, the Don...whatever. And then he complains that everyone looks to him for the answers.

And don't get me started on his too-cool-for-the-room music talk. We get it. You like The Band and Bowie and The Kinks. You're cool. Just stop fucking singing over the songs, at least. Ass.

Anyway, love the show.

[sailor]

THANK YOU. I think Ron is great, but come on people, don't you realize that he's set himself up as the "daddy" of the show--the one guy who NOBODY can touch, make fun of, bust balls--and yet he complains of the fact that everyone looks to him without thinking for themselves? I agree with what he has to say a lot of the time, but what irritates me more than his opinions is his tone...the tone that he sets for the show by making himself the 'Don' of the gaing, the king of cool, the guy who's too hip for the room and constantly talks about his luxurious lifestyle of upper east side Manhattan living and fine dining. I think he probably doesn't realize how much of a snob he can come off sometimes, and that not everybody lives in a large, culturally rich and affluent metropolitan part of the world like Manhattan. Not everybody has the money or the opportunity to dine out five nights a week at some fancy Italian restaurant or some place that only serves "farm-fresh, free-range" steaks; he goes on and on sometimes about how people don't take the time to enjoy the "finer things" in life...well, not everybody makes the millions you do for four hours work a day, buddy...and, this is a little off the topic, but I'd be willing to bet anything if you were to conduct a blind taste test, Ron would not be able to tell the difference between his fine "free-range" steak and one from the local supermarket. Just stop acting like everything's so much better the way you do it, and that us knuckle-dragging oafs don't have the good taste and sophisticated palate that you do. It's bullshit. And stop referring to your wife as "my chick". You're married. You have a wife and kids. There's nothing 'uncool' about that. So stop acting like it's more hip to call your spouse your "chick".

And Fez gets set up, daily, to sound like a crazy person. Ron constantly bitches about how the show always comes back to his personal problems, but you know what: that's mostly because Ron sets it up that way; he will DELIBERATELY introduce a topic that he KNOWS will elicit a reaction from Fez that he can pick at and ridicule. Why does the gay marriage thing come up so much? Because, often (but not always) Ron goads Fez into an argument that goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing, other than to make Fez look like a lunatic. There are too many examples to name them all, but here are a few: the 'deer relocation' thing, the gay marriage thing, the kids playing in the street, the Susan Boyle thing. Most often, Ron is the one who brings up the topic, and I have to believe, as smart as he seems to be, that he knows exactly what he's doing. When Fez was going off on Dave the other day, Ron was so obviously pulling the strings, provoking Fez into asking why Dave only goes after him and not Ron. Well, the answer is simple: NOBODY GOES AFTER RON. He makes himself the daddy, the Don...whatever. And then he complains that everyone looks to him for the answers.

And don't get me started on his too-cool-for-the-room music talk. We get it. You like The Band and Bowie and The Kinks. You're cool. Just stop fucking singing over the songs, at least. Ass.

Anyway, love the show.

have you got a nice plot picked out for fez?

[T-MuG]

I think that Ron has decided that he is going to disagree with almost every point that Fez makes. I'm guessing that Fez is in on this because I think he would have snapped by now and went into a crying jag if he felt like he was being beat up on daily. Maybe the theory is that conflict makes better radio, but I think it's increasingly sounding forced.

What jumps out lately that I disagree with are his comments on Kobe. He said on Friday's show that if Rothlisburger pays then he will look guilty, yet he says that Kobe doesn't look guilty to him because he fought back and won. Apparently Ron doesn't know his history too well because Kobe settled the civil suit out of court. He also made a public apology where he said that he now believes that the woman didn't feel the encounter was consensual. I'm amazed at how many people have forgotten that he ended up paying that woman. I think the fact that the terms of the settlement were never made public has played into people's a.d.d. If there was a price tag on it, I think it would have stuck in people's minds a little better.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I agree completely. All these idiots saying they fart at a urinal may as well let em rip in the office, or in a restaurant, "because I had to!" It's called self control. For once in your lives, think about someone else's comfort.

The reason you and Ron are wrong about farting at a urinal is because you're standing in a room whose sole purpose is as a depository for foul discharges. You're already catching a whiff of fecal and urine particles the second you walk in. What's wrong with ripping ass while you do something almost identical out of the front of your body?

[A.J.]

From now on when I fart at a urinal I'm going to turn to my neighbor and say "Ron Benington says hello."

Fantastic.

Seriously.

I agree.

[A.J.]

What's wrong with ripping ass while you do something almost identical out of the front of your body?

Men can't queef.

[The Ogre]

THANK YOU. I think Ron is great, but come on people, don't you realize that he's set himself up as the "daddy" of the show--the one guy who NOBODY can touch, make fun of, bust balls--and yet he complains of the fact that everyone looks to him without thinking for themselves? I agree with what he has to say a lot of the time, but what irritates me more than his opinions is his tone...the tone that he sets for the show by making himself the 'Don' of the gaing, the king of cool, the guy who's too hip for the room and constantly talks about his luxurious lifestyle of upper east side Manhattan living and fine dining.

Yep. Ron also takes the coward's way out whenever a caller makes him look like a dunce. I think it was Thursday when he was giving his totally ignorant point of view on MMA. A caller comes in to explain some of the basics to him. Ron asks "So MMA competes with the UFC"(paraphrased). The caller, sounding like he's in disbelief that anyone could be so uninformed goes on to say something like MMA is MMA just like football is football.

Ron immediately starts his talking in circles bullshit about how there's more than one place to see MMA as if that was his point, when all he was really doing was covering his dopey statement. And of course the caller was hung up on before he could respond.

I'm not saying the dude has to be infalliable, but if sometimes if you're wrong just fucking learn something and move on, instead of scrambling to still seem right. For a guy who complains that no one goes against him on the show, he acts like an immature baby when it does happen. Shit, this is the same guy who goes after Fez for every mispronounced word, but when he gets the name "Madea" wrong and Fez corrects him he acts like a petulant child.

[hydee]

I'd be willing to bet anything if you were to conduct a blind taste test, Ron would not be able to tell the difference between his fine "free-range" steak and one from the local supermarket.


about meat. :) You can totally tell the difference in supermarket meat ( which is wet aged) and good dry aged beef. I didn't think there was a huge difference either until I was treated by a friend at a great steak place. There is a nutty, richer flavor to meat that has been dry aged 18 to 28 days as compared to the stuff that you get at the super market that is wet aged for about 11 days.

I do live in Montreal and I do dine like a snob sometimes but I swear there is a difference in how a these meats taste. The textures are completely different and even the smell is deeper and richer, that steak made me understand why people would put blue cheese on their steak.

[danner1515]

Yep. Ron also takes the coward's way out whenever a caller makes him look like a dunce. I think it was Thursday when he was giving his totally ignorant point of view on MMA. A caller comes in to explain some of the basics to him. Ron asks "So MMA competes with the UFC"(paraphrased). The caller, sounding like he's in disbelief that anyone could be so uninformed goes on to say something like MMA is MMA just like football is football.

Ron immediately starts his talking in circles bullshit about how there's more than one place to see MMA as if that was his point, when all he was really doing was covering his dopey statement. And of course the caller was hung up on before he could respond.

I'm not saying the dude has to be infalliable, but if sometimes if you're wrong just fucking learn something and move on, instead of scrambling to still seem right. For a guy who complains that no one goes against him on the show, he acts like an immature baby when it does happen. Shit, this is the same guy who goes after Fez for every mispronounced word, but when he gets the name "Madea" wrong and Fez corrects him he acts like a petulant child.

That reminds me of a call I heard on the show a while back. I don't remember what the main discussion was, but Ron claimed that the Native Americans didn't have calendars. When a caller politely corrected him on it, Ron went off on the guy and said something like, "They didn't have day planners, now did they?" Seemed really out line and childish to me. Say what you want about Opie, Anthony, and Jimmy. At least all of them can handle having their balls busted every once in a while. Ron has a complete lack of humility that can rub me the wrong way sometimes.

[Dudeman]

THANK YOU. I think Ron is great, but come on people, don't you realize that he's set himself up as the "daddy" of the show--the one guy who NOBODY can touch, make fun of, bust balls--and yet he complains of the fact that everyone looks to him without thinking for themselves? I agree with what he has to say a lot of the time, but what irritates me more than his opinions is his tone...the tone that he sets for the show by making himself the 'Don' of the gaing, the king of cool, the guy who's too hip for the room and constantly talks about his luxurious lifestyle of upper east side Manhattan living and fine dining.


Having listened to the show since the summer of 2000, I think this change in Ron, more than theobvious changes in Fez, have changed the show of the past decade.

[booster11373]

State of Grace is a mediocre film at best, which I like but does not deserve the amount of praise that Ron and Dave give it

[realmenhatelife]

I think that Ron has decided that he is going to disagree with almost every point that Fez makes. I'm guessing that Fez is in on this because I think he would have snapped by now and went into a crying jag if he felt like he was being beat up on daily. Maybe the theory is that conflict makes better radio, but I think it's increasingly sounding forced.



This isn't really a secret or anything. Ron has stated in the past that without conflict you have no comedy- so he's looking to create conversations in which two people have opposing viewpoints, therefore driving the show. You cant really do anything when people agree, or can atleast see eachothers viewpoints. (Well I guess you can do something, its called the Opie and Anthony show.)

In any case Ron constantly exagerates his own view, or speaks against his own view in order to create the conflict. He's flat out said at the beginning of conversations 'Let me know what you think so I can come down on the other side.'

[drjoek]

State of Grace is a mediocre film at best, which I like but does not deserve the amount of praise that Ron and Dave give it



Substitute at least a dozen other movies and the post still works.

[TheMojoPin]

State of Grace is a mediocre film at best, which I like but does not deserve the amount of praise that Ron and Dave give it

Very underwhelming film. It's only saved by who the actors are.

[ShowerBench]

I don't know, I heard a conversation about drive-ins and BBQ the other day. I don't get any snob vibe whatsoever when these topics come up. I hear someone relaying information about something they were enthusiastic about and appreciated, to, say, people who might visit the area if they don't already live there.

If, on the other hand, Anthony, a mean-spirited braggart, talked about the same thing, you wouldn't hear just a whiff of superiority, it would sound like something that came from Fez's dry cleaners.

Not sure what someone is supposed to do - not talk about certain experiences out of concern that people might not have access to them? How smug and obnoxious would that be?

And on instigating Fez ("he will DELIBERATELY introduce a topic that he KNOWS will elicit a reaction from Fez that he can pick at and ridicule."), do you really think when he introduced the hunting topic he knew he would end up discussing which states millions of deer that rangers located one by one in the woods and gently coaxed onto party buses should be dropped off in?


THANK YOU. I think Ron is great, but come on people, don't you realize that he's set himself up as the "daddy" of the show--the one guy who NOBODY can touch, make fun of, bust balls--and yet he complains of the fact that everyone looks to him without thinking for themselves? I agree with what he has to say a lot of the time, but what irritates me more than his opinions is his tone...the tone that he sets for the show by making himself the 'Don' of the gaing, the king of cool, the guy who's too hip for the room and constantly talks about his luxurious lifestyle of upper east side Manhattan living and fine dining. I think he probably doesn't realize how much of a snob he can come off sometimes, and that not everybody lives in a large, culturally rich and affluent metropolitan part of the world like Manhattan. Not everybody has the money or the opportunity to dine out five nights a week at some fancy Italian restaurant or some place that only serves "farm-fresh, free-range" steaks; he goes on and on sometimes about how people don't take the time to enjoy the "finer things" in life...well, not everybody makes the millions you do for four hours work a day, buddy...and, this is a little off the topic, but I'd be willing to bet anything if you were to conduct a blind taste test, Ron would not be able to tell the difference between his fine "free-range" steak and one from the local supermarket. Just stop acting like everything's so much better the way you do it, and that us knuckle-dragging oafs don't have the good taste and sophisticated palate that you do. It's bullshit. And stop referring to your wife as "my chick". You're married. You have a wife and kids. There's nothing 'uncool' about that. So stop acting like it's more hip to call your spouse your "chick".

And Fez gets set up, daily, to sound like a crazy person. Ron constantly bitches about how the show always comes back to his personal problems, but you know what: that's mostly because Ron sets it up that way; he will DELIBERATELY introduce a topic that he KNOWS will elicit a reaction from Fez that he can pick at and ridicule. Why does the gay marriage thing come up so much? Because, often (but not always) Ron goads Fez into an argument that goes nowhere and accomplishes nothing, other than to make Fez look like a lunatic. There are too many examples to name them all, but here are a few: the 'deer relocation' thing, the gay marriage thing, the kids playing in the street, the Susan Boyle thing. Most often, Ron is the one who brings up the topic, and I have to believe, as smart as he seems to be, that he knows exactly what he's doing. When Fez was going off on Dave the other day, Ron was so obviously pulling the strings, provoking Fez into asking why Dave only goes after him and not Ron. Well, the answer is simple: NOBODY GOES AFTER RON. He makes himself the daddy, the Don...whatever. And then he complains that everyone looks to him for the answers.

And don't get me started on his too-cool-for-the-room music talk. We get it. You like The Band and Bowie and The Kinks. You're cool. Just stop fucking singing over the songs, at least. Ass.

Anyway, love the show.

[Ritalin]

I think that Ron has decided that he is going to disagree with almost every point that Fez makes. I'm guessing that Fez is in on this because I think he would have snapped by now and went into a crying jag if he felt like he was being beat up on daily. Maybe the theory is that conflict makes better radio, but I think it's increasingly sounding forced.

What jumps out lately that I disagree with are his comments on Kobe. He said on Friday's show that if Rothlisburger pays then he will look guilty, yet he says that Kobe doesn't look guilty to him because he fought back and won. Apparently Ron doesn't know his history too well because Kobe settled the civil suit out of court. He also made a public apology where he said that he now believes that the woman didn't feel the encounter was consensual. I'm amazed at how many people have forgotten that he ended up paying that woman. I think the fact that the terms of the settlement were never made public has played into people's a.d.d. If there was a price tag on it, I think it would have stuck in people's minds a little better.

times 2. I was suprised by Ron's Kobe thing as well. As I was listening to it I was thinking " you know Ron, OJ was found not guilty too. "

[Dudeman]

Last week Ron tried to make a difference between those educated for their job versus those, like himself and the "brilliant" Anthony, who educate themselves for knowledge, and said people like him and Anthony are smarter. i disagree Ron- there are plenty of scientists, engineers, history professors, doctors, lawyers are plenty smarter than the brilliant Anthony.

[Serpico1103]

Last week Ron tried to make a difference between those educated for their job versus those, like himself and the "brilliant" Anthony, who educate themselves for knowledge, and said people like him and Anthony are smarter. i disagree Ron- there are plenty of scientists, engineers, history professors, doctors, lawyers are plenty smarter than the brilliant Anthony.

I think he was trying to make the point that some people (ESD and Fez) learn because it will get them a degree. Once that is achieved they see no purpose in learning more. While Ron and Anthony learn for the sake of learning, not for a piece of paper.

Of course there are also people that fit both categories (college educated and still seeking knowledge) and people that fit neither (no formal education and blissfully ignorant.)

[Dudeman]

I think he was trying to make the point that some people (ESD and Fez) learn because it will get them a degree. Once that is achieved they see no purpose in learning more. While Ron and Anthony learn for the sake of learning, not for a piece of paper.

Of course there are also people that fit both categories (college educated and still seeking knowledge) and people that fit neither (no formal education and blissfully ignorant.)

yeah, i didn't make my point very well. but ron was certainly trying to say that the non-college educated, like himself and anthony, are more intellectually curious than the college educated, like esd and fez. a fairly one-sided argument on his part (which is his norm these days.) but the fact is that a lot of college educated scientists and doctors, etc are much more intellectually curious about the arts and such than he or anthony.

[Enabler]

Hirschfeld's caricatures DO employ very distinct lines!! VERY distinct!!

[sailor]

Hirschfeld's caricatures DO employ very distinct lines!! VERY distinct!!

hemingway as fez:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/Ehmercury.jpg

[instrument]

Funny you use the examples of doctors, scientists, etc., and they make up what percentage of college grads?

[West.Coast.Skippy]

Last week Ron tried to make a difference between those educated for their job versus those, like himself and the "brilliant" Anthony, who educate themselves for knowledge, and said people like him and Anthony are smarter. i disagree Ron- there are plenty of scientists, engineers, history professors, doctors, lawyers are plenty smarter than the brilliant Anthony.

it's a heck of a lot easier to be an autodidact when you work 4-6 hours, 5 days a week, and make a millions.

[NewYorkDragons80]

it's a heck of a lot easier to be an autodidact when you work 4-6 hours, 5 days a week, and make a millions.

Nobody ever calls bullshit on him on the show. Yes, Sam, Dave, Travis, etc are in debt from student loans. So what? They're working. Ron and Anthony are the *exception*, as statistics have proven. Even so, Anthony needed to ride the coattails of a college graduate (in a business sense, not a talent sense) and Ron is a naturally funny guy. Good for Ron, but I know tons of guys who are an absolute scream and they work at a deli, in the military, etc. How many people out there in this day and age can follow the path that Ron has taken and make millions?

[Serpico1103]

Nobody ever calls bullshit on him on the show. Yes, Sam, Dave, Travis, etc are in debt from student loans. So what? They're working. Ron and Anthony are the *exception*, as statistics have proven. Even so, Anthony needed to ride the coattails of a college graduate (in a business sense, not a talent sense) and Ron is a naturally funny guy. Good for Ron, but I know tons of guys who are an absolute scream and they work at a deli, in the military, etc. How many people out there in this day and age can follow the path that Ron has taken and make millions?

Again. I don't think Ron was saying that college is a waste time. But, only that a college degree in itself does not show intellectual superiority. And many people waste the gift of a college education.

Nonetheless, school (more high school than college) is unfortunately about memorizing for tests. Instead of learning about interesting subjects or learning how powerful knowledge can be, instead of how useful a degree , whether you learned anything or not, can be.

I think Ron is fully aware of all the college educated people that have lead productive lives. It strikes him as sad that some people handed a key to unlimited possibilities (a degree) fall into an intellectual rut.

[happytypinggirl]

yeah, i didn't make my point very well. but ron was certainly trying to say that the non-college educated, like himself and anthony, are more intellectually curious than the college educated, like esd and fez. a fairly one-sided argument on his part (which is his norm these days.) but the fact is that a lot of college educated scientists and doctors, etc are much more intellectually curious about the arts and such than he or anthony.

i really dont think he said that he and anthony are smarter than everyone who ever went to college.

[Gvac]

I hope all of you who disagree with Ron die in a fire and burn for eternity in the fiery pits of hell!!!

[Serpico1103]

I hope all of you who disagree with Ron die in a fire and burn for eternity in the fiery pits of hell!!!

Does Ron believe in fiery pits of hell?

[Gvac]

Does Ron believe in fiery pits of hell?

You'd better believe it, buddy boy!

He's a God fearing man.

[Serpico1103]

You'd better believe it, buddy boy!

He's a God fearing man.

So, Ron fears you. Nice to know.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Again. I don't think Ron was saying that college is a waste time. But, only that a college degree in itself does not show intellectual superiority. And many people waste the gift of a college education.

Nonetheless, school (more high school than college) is unfortunately about memorizing for tests. Instead of learning about interesting subjects or learning how powerful knowledge can be, instead of how useful a degree , whether you learned anything or not, can be.

I think Ron is fully aware of all the college educated people that have lead productive lives. It strikes him as sad that some people handed a key to unlimited possibilities (a degree) fall into an intellectual rut.

In that respect I agree with him, but I heard him back in January basically saying a college degree is a waste of money. I forget the date, but Sam was in studio.

I hope all of you who disagree with Ron die in a fire and burn for eternity in the fiery pits of hell!!!

You're right, everything is ***WONDERFUL!!!*** :laugh:

[NewYorkDragons80]

You'd better believe it, buddy boy!

He's a God fearing man.

Ya know, back at WNEW I was convinced that Ron was an atheist. But hearing him talk about religion and spirituality on XM makes me think otherwise. Always good radio, IMO.

[Gvac]

Ya know, back at WNEW I was convinced that Ron was an atheist. But hearing him talk about religion and spirituality on XM makes me think otherwise. Always good radio, IMO.

I think that anyone who attains any level of enlightenment in this world realizes that we humans are not the ultimate power in this universe.

It's a rather childish belief, to be honest.

That doesn't necessarily mean Ron (or other people who have gained some wisdom and knowledge in their lives) believes in one supreme being or the God of the Old and New Testament.

[IMSlacker]

I hope all of you who disagree with Ron die in a fire and burn for eternity in the fiery pits of hell!!!

Double fire? Harsh.

[Gvac]

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[mikeyboy]

I hope all of you who disagree with Ron die in a fire and burn for eternity in the fiery pits of hell!!!

When do I get to silence dissent? That's pretty fun.

[cousinchris]

I almost always agree with Ron.

[NewYorkDragons80]

That doesn't necessarily mean Ron (or other people who have gained some wisdom and knowledge in their lives) believes in one supreme being or the God of the Old and New Testament.

I think he approaches everything with an open mind and wouldn't necessarily deny the God of the Old or New Testament. That being said, I don't see how anyone who listens to the show would conclude he does based on the radio personality they hear. Based on what I've heard, though, I would certainly identify him as a theist.

[hydee]

I hope all of you who disagree with Ron die in a fire and burn for eternity in the fiery pits of hell!!!

Hey I just posted because someone was way off base about meat. :)

[hydee]

Double fire? Harsh.

OMG your icon of Hal Sparks kills me so much. Hal Sparks is a weird dude.

[AF Mike]

Adding turkey to a BLT does not make it a turkey club.
A club is defined by 3 slices of (toasted) bread, and the
balance between turkey and bacon is crucial.

Slapping together the components doesn't necessarily
result in the same final product.

A club is so much more than a sandwich.

[GreatAmericanZero]

i disagree with the fact that mayo must be on a BLT. Mayo is fucking gross, when i get a BLT its bacon, lettuce, tomato and hot sauce

[TheMojoPin]

i disagree with the fact that mayo must be on a BLT. Mayo is fucking gross, when i get a BLT its bacon, lettuce, tomato and hot sauce

That's beacause you're a freak.

[Ritalin]

Ronnie B, I hate to do this, but don't talk about the pussification of America - a perfectly stupid turn of phrase by the way - and talk about how much you like that TV show NY Prep, because digging that show makes you a straight up pussy.

[IMSlacker]

Ronnie B, I hate to do this, but don't talk about the pussification of America - a perfectly stupid turn of phrase by the way - and talk about how much you like that TV show NY Prep, because digging that show makes you a straight up pussy.

Has Ron used the term "pussifcation of America"? I thought that was strictly an O&A thing.

[Gvac]

Has Ron used the term "pussifcation of America"? I thought that was strictly an O&A thing.

I remember Ron using that way back in the WNEW days.

I'm pretty sure it's a George Carlin term, though.

[Ritalin]

He's used it in the past year.

...and if he mentions Vanity Fair one more time Dave's going to have to get Greydon Carter to jack Ron off.

[IMSlacker]

O&A always use it when they're talking about those non-competitive sports leagues for kids. It annoys the shit out of me. Sure they exist, but the competitive ones are still there too. My daughter's five and she was in a competitive swimming league this summer and she'll be playing competitive soccer in the fall.

[MacVittie]

Ron acts like food tasted so much better when he was a kid, not taking into account that his taste buds have been weakened from age and smoking. If you want to taste fruits, put down the cigars.

[tileslinger]

I agree with Ron 89%-95% of the time this is one time I happen to disagree

I think the president should have a beer with that professor and cop. Some of our racial problems can't be worked out legislatively.

(I think Zeitgeist is the term?)

Our collective understanding as a nation is influenced by our Leader. The Ron and Fez community this week has taken a look at how much respect an officer be shown by a member of any race and at what point should someone under investigation cooperate to diffuse the situation.

The President has allotted time for photo ops and so forth. We the people will benefit from the President and his staff participating in this conversation.

So some Cub Scout Troop or Rotary Club gets bumped... This is more important.

[Scott from the Future]

The word of Ron is truth. The rest of you will burn for it!

[sailor]

The word of Ron is truth. The rest of you will burn for it!

wollen have burned.