The "I disagree with Ron" thread

[Recyclerz]

Stalin killed millions of people because he was a crazy fuck Atheism nothing to do with it.
Stalin actually studied to be a priest in the Russian Orthodox church maybe some of the things he learned there helped him take over and kill millions of people?

You can't write off Stalin as a "crazy fuck" when he was as successful (albeit evil as well) as he was. His motivating force (or religion if you will) was a combination of narcissism and belief in Marxism (or Marxist Leninism) which included atheism as part of its world view. Toss in "atheists" Chairman Mao and Adolf and your numbers add up pretty quick.

You can say that the atheism wasn't the motivating force to kill those millions (although many were killed just for being religious believers) but then you can't count the millions killed in "religous" wars where there were other motivating historical forces as well (eg. the Crusades).

[Dudeman]

I've been listening to some old clips from the WNEW/WJFK days and one of the things that stands out to me, is that Fez didn't really say anything more or less crazy then, than the nonstarters he tries to use on the show now...

The biggest difference is that Ron used to engage the crazy Fez stories.

For instance, in one clip I just heard from 2002, Fez brings up a story about the the American Cancer Society coming out with a character for an ad campaign named Polyp Man.

Ron and Fez go back and forth and basically turn an idiotic story into a mini-comedy pyramid.

If Fez brings up a story like this on the show now, you hear dead air....followed by a last ditch attempt by Fez to spark some type of conversation...followed by Ron completely ignoring what was said and starting an entirely different topic.

It's not that the stories are particularly worth talking about, but when that happens (and it happens quite frequently), those are the instances that are followed by Fez sitting quietly for an hour and panicking on-air, after being thrown under the bus like that.

I too agree with this.

[Serpico1103]

Stalin killed millions of people because he was a crazy fuck Atheism nothing to do with it.
Stalin actually studied to be a priest in the Russian Orthodox church maybe some of the things he learned there helped him take over and kill millions of people?

Stalin followed the position adopted by Lenin that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed in order to construct the ideal communist society. To this end his government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, massive amounts of anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (especially the Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and also a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

I think knowing there is no god, is materially the same as knowing there is a god.
I do not believe in a god or a higher power. But, I do not know I am right.

[Gunner S]

Anyone that disagrees with ron's an asshole...

[foodcourtdruide]

You can't write off Stalin as a "crazy fuck" when he was as successful (albeit evil as well) as he was. His motivating force (or religion if you will) was a combination of narcissism and belief in Marxism (or Marxist Leninism) which included atheism as part of its world view. Toss in "atheists" Chairman Mao and Adolf and your numbers add up pretty quick.

You can say that the atheism wasn't the motivating force to kill those millions (although many were killed just for being religious believers) but then you can't count the millions killed in "religous" wars where there were other motivating historical forces as well (eg. the Crusades).

This is a great point.

[booster11373]

Stalin merely "replaced" religion with a cult of personality based around himself, he never allowed Soviets to embrace skepticism and rationality as core principals of the soviet state same with Mao only to a lesser extent as Confusism was never eradicated in China the way the Russian church was in the USSR

[booster11373]

You can say that the atheism wasn't the motivating force to kill those millions (although many were killed just for being religious believers) but then you can't count the millions killed in "religous" wars where there were other motivating historical forces as well (eg. the Crusades).

Thats not true. Stalin killed to increase the power of the state control the masses etc. The crusades were predicated by a desire to reclaim the "holy land"

Religion was a MAIN cause of the crusades

Religious followers represented a competing element to communism and Stalin, if history went another direction and the church lined up with Stalin he would have used them to increase his power


You should really look in to Tsarist Russia and how the Tsar and the church combined to keep the peasent class pacified

"ATHIESM" under the soviets was not based on rationality and reason but was merely a rebellion against another arm of control used by the Tsar

[underdog]

I disagree with Ron in having any interest in talking sports with his team. Listening to Ron talk to Dave and Earl about sports is painful. Neither of them have any idea what they're talking about.

[Mitch&Murray]

I disagree with Ron in having any interest in talking sports with his team. Listening to Ron talk to Dave and Earl about sports is painful. Neither of them have any idea what they're talking about.

Agreed
and Dave is Rons "Sports Guy" of the show.
Its awful to listen to and even worse now that Dave has adopted this stupid front runner gimmick of his.

[Ritalin]

Hey, me and UnderDog and Mitch are all listen to the same part of the show on Audible at the same time.

[sailor]

i don't see cloverfield as some sort of "9/11 porn".

[Mitch&Murray]

Hey, me and UnderDog and Mitch are all listen to the same part of the show on Audible at the same time.


Now
That's a threesome!!!

[underdog]

Hey, me and UnderDog and Mitch are all listen to the same part of the show on Audible at the same time.

Yeaaaah, Audible. That's right.

It really could have been any show this week. But hearing Earl say the defense will score 17 for the Jets was really bad.

[Son of Muta]

There are a lot of hardcore atheists that I have come across that are very similar to fundamentalists, mainly in their annoyingness and self righteousness. I felt that was the way Ron was trying to explain them as similar, along with both KNOWING their right.

i didn't hear the segment, but i've said on here most atheists have the same 100% faith they're right, with no possible thought they might be wrong, that most fundamentalists have.

Atheists and fundamentalists are the same? I think that's true because Atheists are responsible for the OKC bombing, '96 Olympic Park bombing and abortion clinic bombings as well as strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up innocents overseas.

Espera un minuto, por favor, those were/are being perpetrated be religious extremists. Atheists have never and will never cause as much damage in this World that religion has and will continue to do.


In addition to Sailor's point, Ron was calling out both sides for hubris - the religious zealots for claiming to know God's mind and the atheists for not considering the spiritual or even logical question as to why anything exists at all if not for some prime moving force.

Everything on this planet has evolved, over millions of years, from a single celled organism.

I don't believe in a novel written 2,000 years ago. I believe in science and logic.

If your faith is so fragile that someone saying that there is no god, which there isn't, gets you so worked up, maybe you need to look at yourself.

That being said, I actually don't have a problem with people believing if that's what they need to do to get through the day, just as long as they do so in their own home or inside a church where it belongs and not out in public.

[Serpico1103]

Everything on this planet has evolved, over millions of years, from a single celled organism.
That being said, I actually don't have a problem with people believing if that's what they need to do to get through the day, just as long as they do so in their own home or inside a church where it belongs and not out in public.

Grrrr, settle down the angry guy routine.

So, did the universe started with a single cell? Try again. Unless, you think this original single cell is "god."

Can you keep your beliefs in private. This is a public forum.

[underdog]

Atheists and fundamentalists are the same? I think that's true because Atheists are responsible for the OKC bombing, '96 Olympic Park bombing and abortion clinic bombings as well as strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up innocents overseas.

Espera un minuto, por favor, those were/are being perpetrated be religious extremists. Atheists have never and will never cause as much damage in this World that religion has and will continue to do..

Jesus, people on this board have trouble reading.

THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.

We know this. No one is saying they are the same. They ACT the fucking same, sometimes. That's all. Atheists being positive that there is no god are often viewed the same as religious people being positive there is a god; you're both idiots.

[sailor]

If your faith is so fragile that someone saying that there is no god, which there isn't, gets you so worked up, maybe you need to look at yourself.

who exactly is getting "so worked up"?

[Son of Muta]

who exactly is getting "so worked up"?

simple answer: christians.

or

Hannity

Beck

O'Reilly

Limbaugh


and Serpico: No, I don't think the universe started as a single cell "god" whatever the fuck that is. The universe started with the Big Bang 13.9 billion years ago.

any other "believers": keep your lips on Ron's cock.

[Serpico1103]

and Serpico: No, I don't think the universe started as a single cell "god" whatever the fuck that is. The universe started with the Big Bang 13.9 billion years ago.


What caused this big bang?
I am curious about how much you know.

And to be clear, I don't believe in a god or higher power. But, I know very little for certain.

[sailor]

simple answer: christians.

or

Hannity

Beck

O'Reilly

Limbaugh


and Serpico: No, I don't think the universe started as a single cell "god" whatever the fuck that is. The universe started with the Big Bang 13.9 billion years ago.

any other "believers": keep your lips on Ron's cock.

i mean, it's very clear you're the one getting all worked up as opposed to everyone else in this thread.

[ElSeed]

Religious followers represented a competing element to communism and Stalin, if history went another direction and the church lined up with Stalin he would have used them to increase his power

Exactly. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and all those other evil atheists that Hannity loves to bring up just saw religion as competition for the mind control of their subjects.

I might be technically an agnostic because, as Ron said, the fact that there is anything at all is fucking mind-blowing and who knows where the hell it all came from, but I consider myself an atheist in this respect: Any religion, superstition or anything else supernatural that the human race has come up with is complete and utter bullshit. All of it. And unlike a fundamentalist, I am completely open to changing my mind on this if I were presented with evidence. Show a fundamentalist all the fossils, geologic evidence, DNA evidence, biology, physics...everything that proves that the Earth is old and we evolved from a common ancestor and they will not believe it no matter what. Dogma is what separates us (at the very least).

Even if something did create all of this, we are (probably) nothing more than a very fortunate accident of the matter and laws put in motion 13.9 Billion years ago. This shit just happened and who knows, maybe it has happened in other parts of the universe.

[Servo]

i don't see cloverfield as some sort of "9/11 porn".

me neither.

[Crispy123]

I dont agree that Andy Rooney is nearly as rascist as Fez

[Ritalin]

Listening to yesterday's show.

Ronnie B. is giving us a Blowhard impression, lamenting how men don't live the same way they used to, how we have to cook and clean sometimes.

Yo, RB, the times HAVE changed. How many families can afford to keep one parent at home full time? So, we all have to juggle. It ain't Leave it to Beaver anymore.

[Serpico1103]

Listening to yesterday's show.

Ronnie B. is giving us a Blowhard impression, lamenting how men don't live the same way they used to, how we have to cook and clean sometimes.

Yo, RB, the times HAVE changed. How many families can afford to keep one parent at home full time? So, we all have to juggle. It ain't Leave it to Beaver anymore.

I think the problem is Blowhard sees the past as perfection.
Yes, moms stayed home. They were also trapped there. Domestic violence was ignored. Divorce was a stigma. If women did leave what work would they find.
I think blacks would not look fondly on much of that era.
Blowhard has some points, but he thinks nothing has improved.
His stance on baseball being watered down is a great example.
His rationale is that there are more teams, so the talent is stretched thinner. That is fine. Except for the facts. In the span of time the number of teams have doubled, the US population has quadrupled. Also, add in black and latin players. The talent pool has never been deeper than in the last decade.
His childhood was great. That does not mean the world was great.

[Ritalin]

Let me be clear, though. Love RB and dig the Blowhard.

[kratos]

Ron, that caller was asking if *you* had seen the Dave Snowmageddon video. You can't always run the callers down for the sake of a bit.

[The Bends]

I think the problem is Blowhard sees the past as perfection.
Yes, moms stayed home. They were also trapped there. Domestic violence was ignored. Divorce was a stigma. If women did leave what work would they find.
I think blacks would not look fondly on much of that era.
Blowhard has some points, but he thinks nothing has improved.
His stance on baseball being watered down is a great example.
His rationale is that there are more teams, so the talent is stretched thinner. That is fine. Except for the facts. In the span of time the number of teams have doubled, the US population has quadrupled. Also, add in black and latin players. The talent pool has never been deeper than in the last decade.
His childhood was great. That does not mean the world was great. You sit down to pee, don't ya?

[The Bends]

What's not to disagree with Ron about?

Probably the most annoying thing about Ron is his "too cool for the room" persona. He can bust on everyone during the show, but Ron himself is off limits from being busted on.

You gotta love how Ron, a guy who isn't exactly in shape, can bust on Fez's weight. Yeah, because it's always sensible to call someone who you're fatter than, fat, lol.

Also, when Ron tells Dave that he can't "maintain" after one of Dave's retarded drinking stories, I wish for the day where Dave grows some balls and turns it on Ron. I'd love to see Dave point out to Ron, that a person who needs rehab for alcohol/drugs, and can no longer use alcohol/drugs because it makes them go out of control, is the ultimate example of someone ho can't maintain!

[disneyspy]

What's not to disagree with Ron about?

Probably the most annoying thing about Ron is his "too cool for the room" persona. He can bust on everyone during the show, but Ron himself is off limits from being busted on.

You gotta love how Ron, a guy who isn't exactly in shape, can bust on Fez's weight. Yeah, because it's always sensible to call someone who you're fatter than, fat, lol.

Also, when Ron tells Dave that he can't "maintain" after one of Dave's retarded drinking stories, I wish for the day where Dave grows some balls and turns it on Ron. I'd love to see Dave point out to Ron, that a person who needs rehab for alcohol/drugs, and can no longer use alcohol/drugs because it makes them go out of control, is the ultimate example of someone ho can't maintain!

someone that has been through the wringer and came out of it is someone that can maintain

[The Bends]

someone that has been through the wringer and came out of it is someone that can maintain

Stop it!

Someone who has to abstain from doing something because it makes them go out of control, is someone who can't maintain. Hence, they can't do it.

[disneyspy]

Stop it!

Someone who has to abstain from doing something because it makes them go out of control, is someone who can't maintain. Hence, they can't do it.

no you stop it,if someone doesn't do something thats bad for them its not a bad thing. he can do it,he chooses not to,maintaining.

[Ritalin]

It's a little chicken/egg this discussion you're having. I don't know the answer, but does abstaining mean you can't maintain, or is it proof the you one can't maintain? Doesn't matter to me, I think should do what they need to do.

[instrument]

Also, when Ron tells Dave that he can't "maintain" after one of Dave's retarded drinking stories, I wish for the day where Dave grows some balls and turns it on Ron. I'd love to see Dave point out to Ron, that a person who needs rehab for alcohol/drugs, and can no longer use alcohol/drugs because it makes them go out of control, is the ultimate example of someone ho can't maintain!

you're a fucking moron, so you're saying because ron doesn't use drugs or alcohol he's somehow less of a man than someone like dave who gets drunk and lets trannies jerk him off in alleys?

hilarious, ron has said multiple times that when he hit his bottom it was nowhere near as low as Dave, and Dave sees nothing wrong about the shit he does.

i'm sorry but a father of two....oh lets try that again, a really broke father of two shouldn't be spending what little money he has to get wasted and buy six copies of the godfather on dv...digital video disc.

[danlaroe]

negative threads always turn out so well

[The Bends]

you're a fucking moron, so you're saying because ron doesn't use drugs or alcohol he's somehow less of a man than someone like dave who gets drunk and lets trannies jerk him off in alleys?

hilarious, ron has said multiple times that when he hit his bottom it was nowhere near as low as Dave, and Dave sees nothing wrong about the shit he does.

i'm sorry but a father of two....oh lets try that again, a really broke father of two shouldn't be spending what little money he has to get wasted and buy six copies of the godfather on dv...digital video disc.

If you think buying too many DVD's is an example of a "problem", then you are a complete dumbass. What Dave does when he's drunk is harmless.

LOL, and I never said Ron was less of a man. Stop being so dramatic, kiss ass. I said that Ron is the last guy who should tell anyone that they can't "maintain", since he is the ultimate example of someone who can't maintain.

[The Bends]

no you stop it,if someone doesn't do something thats bad for them its not a bad thing. he can do it,he chooses not to,maintaining. See, Ron can't do it, because he spins out of control. If he could do it, he would. But he can't maintain, thus he has to remain completely sober.

[disneyspy]

See, Ron can't do it, because he spins out of control. If he could do it, he would. But he can't maintain, thus he has to remain completely sober.

you really dont see the difference in making choices to live a balanced life?

ron is able to talk to dave from an experience level,however long it takes dave to get the message is up to dave. theres a big difference in past behaviors and present lifestyle.

[The Bends]

you really dont see the difference in making choices to live a balanced life?

ron is able to talk to dave from an experience level,however long it takes dave to get the message is up to dave. theres a big difference in past behaviors and present lifestyle.
Your unwillingness to stop kissing Ron's ass is preventing you from understanding this very simple premise.....

Ron CAN'T drink, because if he does he goes out of control. Hence, he has to avoid alcohol/drugs all together. If he had a choice, he'd drink like normal people can. But he can't. Why? Because he is unable to maintain....

Dave does stupid, harmless things when he is drunk, which are exaggerated for the sake of the show. His drinking doesn't prevent him from working his full-time job. Don't compare the two.

Anyway, I'm sure you aren't going to be able to understand this. You are too busy kissing Ron's ass, to sit back and think clearly.

[disneyspy]

Your unwillingness to stop kissing Ron's ass is preventing you from understanding this very simple premise.....

Ron CAN'T drink, because if he does he goes out of control. Hence, he has to avoid alcohol/drugs all together. If he had a choice, he'd drink like normal people can. But he can't. Why? Because he is unable to maintain....

Dave does stupid, harmless things when he is drunk, which are exaggerated for the sake of the show. His drinking doesn't prevent him from working his full-time job. Don't compare the two.

Anyway, I'm sure you aren't going to be able to understand this. You are too busy kissing Ron's ass, to sit back and think clearly.

hahahaha,hey jerkoff,i have the same allergies as ron and not everybody drinks and takes drugs. i didnt think i would ever posts this but a couple of novembers ago i was grateful to be able to thank ron (benny as i call him) in person for pointing out to me that i might want to look at my behaviors,that was 15 years ago and i'm coming up 10 years sober,took me a while to get it. its alot like what ron does for dave,i wouldnt presume to know if its just for radio sake but i'm sure ron knows dave alot better than you do. i "maintain" quite well, thank you, and i dont know if i partied myself into my addictions or if i was predisposed to them. you say i'm kissing ron's ass i'm telling you i think your views are bullshit.

[The Bends]

hahahaha,hey jerkoff,i have the same allergies as ron and not everybody drinks and takes drugs. i didnt think i would ever posts this but a couple of novembers ago i was grateful to be able to thank ron (benny as i call him) in person for pointing out to me that i might want to look at my behaviors,that was 15 years ago and i'm coming up 10 years sober,took me a while to get it. its alot like what ron does for dave,i wouldnt presume to know if its just for radio sake but i'm sure ron knows dave alot better than you do. i "maintain" quite well, thank you, and i dont know if i partied myself into my addictions or if i was predisposed to them. you say i'm kissing ron's ass i'm telling you i think your views are bullshit.
You continuously taking this conversation to over dramatic levels, further proves that you can't understand my very simple, accurate point.

Someone who has to avoid something because that something makes them lose control, is someone who can't maintain.

It's great that Ron is clean. It's great that you are clean. But that's not the point. You are being over dramatic.

Dave exaggerates his behavior for the show. It's not that bad.

The initial point I made was Ron's " too cool for the room" attitude when it comes to busting balls, has gotten old. Ron is the last guy who should talk about anyone weight, and he's the last guy who should call someone out for not being able to handle alcohol.

Now I understand that you have some sort of bond with Ron. One that you make seem much stronger in your head, than actually is in reality. I mean, you think about Ron 14 hours a day. To Ron, you are just another kiss ass, fan.

So again, stop being over dramatic, and try to understand my very simple, accurate point.

[disneyspy]

You continuously taking this conversation to over dramatic levels, further proves that you can't understand my very simple, accurate point.

Someone who has to avoid something because that something makes them lose control, is someone who can't maintain.

It's great that Ron is clean. It's great that you are clean. But that's not the point. You are being over dramatic.

Dave exaggerates his behavior for the show. It's not that bad.

The initial point I made was Ron's " too cool for the room" attitude when it comes to busting balls, has gotten old. Ron is the last guy who should talk about anyone weight, and he's the last guy who should call someone out for not being able to handle alcohol.

Now I understand that you have some sort of bond with Ron. One that you make seem much stronger in your head, than actually is in reality. I mean, you think about Ron 14 hours a day. To Ron, you are just another kiss ass, fan.

So again, stop being over dramatic, and try to understand my very simple, accurate point.

thank you for the free analysis,now heres mine for you

you suck and you're a condescending douche that has to troll messageboards because youre such a douche

you're welcome

[Ritalin]

thank you for the free analysis,now heres mine for you

you suck and you're a condescending douche that has to troll messageboards because youre such a douche

you're welcome

Hey man. Maintain.

[The Nature Boy]

I disagree with Ron on...

John Hughes.

He's an American Truffaut, and he doesn't get his due because he was an 80's American director.

History will reveal him to be there with James Cameron as the best of the 80's, in America.

[ElSeed]

The initial point I made was Ron's " too cool for the room" attitude when it comes to busting balls, has gotten old. Ron is the last guy who should talk about anyone weight, and he's the last guy who should call someone out for not being able to handle alcohol.

Dickhead. That IS the Ron and Fez show. That IS Ron. Go listen to something else if you don't like it.

Besides, I think by "maintain", Ron means that if you get fucked up, don't turn into an asshole. There are plenty of addicts that can maintain but they still need to go into recovery so that they don't die.

[Serpico1103]

You sit down to pee, don't ya?

Only if one of your loved ones is beneath me.

Maintaining can mean being sober.
It is being cool at all times. Whether you are drinking, using drugs, sober, having a bad day, or found huge success.
Maintain your cool.

"The Bends" was that a game you played with your Dad. He would stand behind you holding your waist, and say "start bending."

[PapaBear]

Someone who has to avoid something because that something makes them lose control, is someone who can't maintain
Wrong. Plenty of alcoholics never lose control. A functioning alcoholic is still an alcoholic. With many alcoholics, the people around them don't even know they are drinking.

[The Bends]

Only if one of your loved ones is beneath me.

Maintaining can mean being sober.
It is being cool at all times. Whether you are drinking, using drugs, sober, having a bad day, or found huge success.
Maintain your cool.

"The Bends" was that a game you played with your Dad. He would stand behind you holding your waist, and say "start bending." Man, you are a barrel full of laughs!

[Serpico1103]

Man, you are a barrel full of laughs!

Thanks. It is important to me that I am liked by new members.

[The Bends]

Wrong. Plenty of alcoholics never lose control. A functioning alcoholic is still an alcoholic. With many alcoholics, the people around them don't even know they are drinking. Yeah, that whole "functioning alcoholic" thing is very rare. It's the vast minority who would fall into that category....

Anyway, Ron wasn't. So him calling Dave out for not being able to "maintain", is like cancer calling Aids out for being a disease.

Just like it's dumb for Ron to call Fez fat. Note to Ron: You are fatter!

[disneyspy]

hey the bends,you might want to check your e-mails because i heard massengill is getting low on you

and i wonder,do you give yourself chills?

[Serpico1103]

Yeah, that whole "functioning alcoholic" thing is very rare. It's the vast minority who would fall into that category....
Anyway, Ron wasn't. So him calling Dave out for not being able to "maintain", is like cancer calling Aids out for being a disease.
Just like it's dumb for Ron to call Fez fat. Note to Ron: You are fatter!

If it bothers Fez to be called fat, but it doesn't bother Ron why is it dumb?
Humor is hard to explain. Ever hear a comic make fun of how stupid a politician is? Who do you think really is smarter? The comic always is?

What is your other name that you post under?

[Crispy123]

Roberto Benigni lives in Big Italy, not little Italy. And he does not serve esppresso.

[Chigworthy]

hey the bends, I'm trying to clone you. What's the ratio of vinegar to water?

[disneyspy]

hey the bends,have you ever been called a stuck up cunt?

cuz you might be a douche

[Crispy123]

hey the bends,

you should not fly 24-48 hours after scuba diving!

[disneyspy]

What is your other name that you post under?

i think he also posts under the name summer's eve

cuz he might be a douche

[Chigworthy]

Hey the bends, Pussy called and said to get over there quick; you've got work to do.

[The Bends]

Do you guys(The extremely unfunny Serpico, The "I wish I was Ron" disneyspy, and the other guys) ever get tired of being Ron's silly sub missives? There is a sexual tension to your continual defense of Ron. I bet you'd give anything to lick the toe jam out of Ron's feet. You sick fucks!

[The Bends]

Only if one of your loved ones is beneath me.

Maintaining can mean being sober.
It is being cool at all times. Whether you are drinking, using drugs, sober, having a bad day, or found huge success.
Maintain your cool.

"The Bends" was that a game you played with your Dad. He would stand behind you holding your waist, and say "start bending."
I mean, can I state once again, how terribly unfunny this is?

[The Bends]

God, I hate you Serpico!

[Serpico1103]

I mean, can I state once again, how terribly unfunny this is?
Please tell me again. I need humor instruction and who better than a anonymous board poster who is obsessed with Ron more than the people he complains about.

God, I hate you Serpico!

Will a big hug help? From behind, like your dad used to.

[sailor]

Knock it off, the two of you.

[disneyspy]

Knock it off, the two of you.

c'mon sailor,this is a RON and fez fansite,serpico has every right to tell this douche off,you mods give these boring,unfunny gizzbags too much leeway,he came here to troll,let us kick him a few times before he goes back under his bridge.

[Serpico1103]

Knock it off, the two of you.
Banning a man for wanting to hug another man? Fez was right, this is a board of hate.

[JimBeam]

"The Bends" was that a game you played with your Dad. He would stand behind you holding your waist, and say "start bending."

I'm not taking sides but I actually thought that was funny.

[sailor]

I never get why Ron expects a work computer to be better than a home computer.

[JPMNICK]

I never get why Ron expects a work computer to be better than a home computer.

it never happens, I worked at large scale banks and small insurance shops, and they always have out dated stuff due to the IT nightmare it is to upgrade

[JimBeam]

We just converted to Outlook 2007 at my job, a Fortune 50 company, and we're still using most of the Microsoft Office from 2002.

So the work stuff is usually way behind for me.

[JimBeam]

This goes back to early last week when Ron was going on about James Cameron and saying it didn't matter that he wasn't a good dad because he was doing things for others by making great movies.

Him making great movies is no more relevant to the world than Jeter hitting a HR in a game or Brees throwing a TD ( even if it is for the Super Bowl Cahmpion New Orleans Sainst ).

There's nothing noble about that they do. If they didn't do it somebody else would.

Maybe not to the same degree but somebody would still be playing SS for the Yankees and their fans would still go crazy.

Unless you said that the money from Cameron's movies all went to charity or a greater cause then why should he be expected to act less like a normal parent ?

[booster11373]

Serious question

Why was Fez's answer of wrestling manager "wrong" and Peppers answer of musician "right"?

[Chigworthy]

Serious question

Why was Fez's answer of wrestling manager "wrong" and Peppers answer of musician "right"?

Was the question which one is straight?

[Devo37]

Serious question

Why was Fez's answer of wrestling manager "wrong" and Peppers answer of musician "right"?

yeah, that was pretty fucked up. everyone laughed right in Fezzie's face cuz his dream job wasn't on the approved 'cool' list. maybe if Fez said he wanted to play keyboards for The Band, they would've accepted his answer :wallbash:

then ron put him on the spot (twice) and asked him to cut promo's as a manager. i don't recall anyone asking hicks to pick up a guitar and play it on the spot or anyone mocking dave for his dream job of "...sports". typical anti-fez b.s.




VIVA LA FEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

[The Bends]

You just know disneyspy jacks to the poster he has of ron, hung over his bed, every night.

You are a sick fuck!

[The Bends]

God, I hate that unfunny mother-fucker, serpico!

[sailor]

You just know disneyspy jacks to the poster he has of ron, hung over his bed, every night.

You are a sick fuck!

enough already.

[disneyspy]

sorry,my bad

[Dudeman]

Ron says there is no difference between the Democrats and Republicans. On the surface, there is some truth to that, but there are policies put in place by the different administrations that are fairly different but just don't make the headlines and talking-head shows. If Ron thinks there is no difference between having Alito versus Ginsberg on the supreme court, for example, well then... I disagree with Ron.

[rascal_helper]

I disagree with Ron carrying dead weight for the past 3 years. Ron and Dave 11-3

[Suspect Chin]

I disagree with Ron carrying dead weight for the past 3 years. Ron and Dave 11-3

7 foot 4, 520 pounds worth of dead weight.

[NewYorkDragons80]

7 foot 4, 520 pounds worth of dead weight.

http://homepage.mac.com/hellbind/.Public/BillBrasky.jpg

[instrument]

i'm listening to ron complain about obama not knowing how to stop the oil spill?

seriously ron? Obama is supposed to know how to stop an oil leak a mile under the ocean? are you serious?

[midwestjeff]

i'm listening to ron complain about obama not knowing how to stop the oil spill?

seriously ron? Obama is supposed to know how to stop an oil leak a mile under the ocean? are you serious?

His point was not that Obama should have the solution but that he should be putting the right people together who are capable of solving the problem.

Basically, Obama should be sending the Wolf.

[spainlinx0]

His point was not that Obama should have the solution but that he should be putting the right people together who are capable of solving the problem.

Basically, Obama should be sending the Wolf.

That's funny because while he was ranting the Wolf was the first thing that came to my mind.

[SinA]

Ron just said that Fez wasn't being stupid saying that Michael Blooblay is a good song.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Ron ragged on Toy Story 3 because, among other reasons, he didn't want to go to a movie theater and cry. One of Ronnie's strengths is that he advocates the human experience in all its forms. Why shun an entire sector of it?

And why dismiss an entire genre of filmmaking just because the medium is traditionally for children? For someone who stresses comedy as an art form when mainstream critics shy from treating it as such, he of all people should be willing to approach Pixar movies with an open mind. Yes they use computer-generated anthropomorphic characters to advance a story, but I pity someone who can't watch them and see the larger story being advanced.

[StanUpshaw]

I agree that he's retarded for characterizing all animation as childish, but I also agree with him that Pixar movies are tripe.

[Fillmore Slim]

I agree that he's retarded for characterizing all animation as childish, but I also agree with him that Pixar movies are tripe.

Sounds yummy.

http://cyrussaintrid.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/tripe.jpg

[foodcourtdruide]

I agree that he's retarded for characterizing all animation as childish, but I also agree with him that Pixar movies are tripe.

For the most part I agree with you. I am definitely able to enjoy some animated films on an intellectual level (Miyazaki is the first to come to mind), but most Pixar films are clearly aimed towards children.

I compare Pixar to wrestling. Wrestling has some adult appeal (acrobatics/drama), but ulimately it is geared towards children and that prevents high art from ever taking it seriously.

[NewYorkDragons80]

For the most part I agree with you. I am definitely able to enjoy some animated films on an intellectual level (Miyazaki is the first to come to mind), but most Pixar films are clearly aimed towards children.

I compare Pixar to wrestling. Wrestling has some adult appeal (acrobatics/drama), but ulimately it is geared towards children and that prevents high art from ever taking it seriously.

Although visually vibrant and non-threatening to children, I think the last 3 films Pixar has put out (Ratatouille, WALL-E, and Up) have been made with the intention of telling an adult story. Kids can watch it, get some of the jokes, and walk out satisfied by the pretty colors, but the message being conveyed is strictly for adults.

[realmenhatelife]

Cookies arent good enough for dessert? Cookies blow cupcakes out of the water, and are better with coffee. Kiss my ass.

[SinA]

Cookies arent good enough for dessert? Cookies blow cupcakes out of the water, and are better with coffee. Kiss my ass.

QFT. until they come up with an oatmeal raisin cupcake, cookies will always be superior










oatmeal raisin cupcake - © 2010, SinA

[Zorro]

QFT. until they come up with an oatmeal raisin cupcake, cookies will always be superior oatmeal raisin cupcake - © 2010, SinA



Yuch, Oatmeal Raisin. Why not just heat up some metamucil and prunes

[TripleSkeet]

I know he hates M. Night Shymalan films, and The Happening and The Village both sucked balls.

But I really liked Lady in the Water, Unbreakable and The 6th Sense.

[Set Theorist]

Let me just start off by saying I do think Ron is a genius and by far, the best thing on radio. However, his burn out with Fez is so obvious. He's very antagonistic and sarcastic all under the guise of being supportive. How is Fez ever supposed to find his feet if Ron keeps trying to knock him down?

They were just talking about Lebron and Fez made a very valid point that Lebron might consider Miami to escape the cold winters of Ohio. Ron comes out with this bullshit about how much basketball players travel and how Fez is dumb because he doesn't realize Lebron can't escape the cold. His desire to pound Fez into the ground is so acute that he'd say something as stupid as that. Yes, there will be forty plus days out of the year that Lebron would have no choice but to be exposed to cold weather, so why would he possibly consider moving somewhere warm for the other 325 days? Is he serious?

Give fez a break. He was great once and could be again.

[Furtherman]

Ron has been giving Fez a break for five years, since his heart attack.

If anything, Ron deserves the break.

[Chigworthy]

QFT. until they come up with an oatmeal raisin cupcake, cookies will always be superior










oatmeal raisin cupcake - © 2010, SinA

Oatmeal raisin, or as I like to call it, Spiced Rat Turd Surprise.

[TripleSkeet]

Let me just start off by saying I do think Ron is a genius and by far, the best thing on radio. However, his burn out with Fez is so obvious. He's very antagonistic and sarcastic all under the guise of being supportive. How is Fez ever supposed to find his feet if Ron keeps trying to knock him down?

They were just talking about Lebron and Fez made a very valid point that Lebron might consider Miami to escape the cold winters of Ohio. Ron comes out with this bullshit about how much basketball players travel and how Fez is dumb because he doesn't realize Lebron can't escape the cold. His desire to pound Fez into the ground is so acute that he'd say something as stupid as that. Yes, there will be forty plus days out of the year that Lebron would have no choice but to be exposed to cold weather, so why would he possibly consider moving somewhere warm for the other 325 days? Is he serious?

Give fez a break. He was great once and could be again.

The last 3 days Ive listened to the show Ive heard 30 minute stretches where the only voices on air were Rons and Peppers. If Fez had any more of a break he wouldnt even have to show up.

[Set Theorist]

The last 3 days Ive listened to the show Ive heard 30 minute stretches where the only voices on air were Rons and Peppers. If Fez had any more of a break he wouldnt even have to show up.

He's probably afraid to talk because Ron jumps on his ass every time he opens his mouth....and nobody bothered to tell 'em his shirt was misbuttoned. Tragic.

[Rhah]

Let me just start off by saying I do think Ron is a genius and by far, the best thing on radio. However, his burn out with Fez is so obvious. He's very antagonistic and sarcastic all under the guise of being supportive. How is Fez ever supposed to find his feet if Ron keeps trying to knock him down?

They were just talking about Lebron and Fez made a very valid point that Lebron might consider Miami to escape the cold winters of Ohio. Ron comes out with this bullshit about how much basketball players travel and how Fez is dumb because he doesn't realize Lebron can't escape the cold. His desire to pound Fez into the ground is so acute that he'd say something as stupid as that. Yes, there will be forty plus days out of the year that Lebron would have no choice but to be exposed to cold weather, so why would he possibly consider moving somewhere warm for the other 325 days? Is he serious?

Give fez a break. He was great once and could be again.

I thought it was about Lebron saying his suitors can come to him he isn't going to travel to them. And Fez thought it was a bad idea because he thought if Lebron went to them he could learn about other cities and Ron laughed saying sarcastically that obviously as an NBA player he doesn't get to travel much to these cities at all... which was pretty funny. I am usually pro-Fez but he deserved that zinger.

[Big_D]

don't piss him off or you'll get a fucking cowbell in the face :wallbash: ouch!

[TripleSkeet]

I thought it was about Lebron saying his suitors can come to him he isn't going to travel to them. And Fez thought it was a bad idea because he thought if Lebron went to them he could learn about other cities and Ron laughed saying sarcastically that obviously as an NBA player he doesn't get to travel much to these cities at all... which was pretty funny. I am usually pro-Fez but he deserved that zinger.

I love your sig.

[Set Theorist]

I thought it was about Lebron saying his suitors can come to him he isn't going to travel to them. And Fez thought it was a bad idea because he thought if Lebron went to them he could learn about other cities and Ron laughed saying sarcastically that obviously as an NBA player he doesn't get to travel much to these cities at all... which was pretty funny. I am usually pro-Fez but he deserved that zinger.

Later in the convo they were speculating where Lebron might go and Fez made what I thought, was a very valid point.

[JimBeam]

Let me just start off by saying I do think Ron is a genius and by far, the best thing on radio. However, his burn out with Fez is so obvious. He's very antagonistic and sarcastic all under the guise of being supportive. How is Fez ever supposed to find his feet if Ron keeps trying to knock him down?

They were just talking about Lebron and Fez made a very valid point that Lebron might consider Miami to escape the cold winters of Ohio. Ron comes out with this bullshit about how much basketball players travel and how Fez is dumb because he doesn't realize Lebron can't escape the cold. His desire to pound Fez into the ground is so acute that he'd say something as stupid as that. Yes, there will be forty plus days out of the year that Lebron would have no choice but to be exposed to cold weather, so why would he possibly consider moving somewhere warm for the other 325 days? Is he serious?

Give fez a break. He was great once and could be again.

To be honest I think it's all part of the joke. I don't think Ron is in any way being mean to Fez.

Sure he busts his balls but that's because, for the most part, Fez is his cohost. It wouldn't be as funny for him to tool on Pepper the whole show.

The brilliance of Pepper is keeping him as minor as possible to make him funny. I think Pepper could wear thin if he had to talk for 3 1/2 hours. He's awesome w/ the drop ins.

I hate to again make a reference to Stern's stupid show/channel but there's nothing I hate more then when I am in the car w/ my wife and stuck listening to him and I have to hear Gary or any of those other behind the scenes morons talk. While I fight all I can to not have to listen to the show at all we have an agreement that we'll never listen to the wrap up show.

I also feel like Ron has some actual concern for Fez, and why wouldn't he seeing as though they've been partners for so long, and that was evident in the show when Freddie told Fez not to choke on the pizza. You could hear Ron trying to calm Fez down and giving Dave a bit of attitude for pushing his buttons.

[fezident]

I heartily disagree with Ron's stance on stand-up comedians.
IMO, it's the only time that Ron's defense of something is actually a cop-out.

When critics take shots at Jay Leno, Ron will say "Oh yeah? Let's hear YOU tell a joke!" Or, "what makes YOU such an expert on comedy? You've never told a joke in your life."

This is not a valid argument, nor is it logical, nor is it mature. It's kid's stuff.

Somebody's ability to BE funny has less-than-nothing to do with their ability to find somebody ELSE funny or unfunny.

--There are people who review & critique restaraunts, and they (probably) can't cook. Still, they know a good meal from a bad one. Can Ron cook a delicious gourmet meal? No? Okay... then he needs to STFU about "good restaraunts" and "shitty Applebees and Olive Garden chains".
--Can Ron score a touchdown? Sink a 3-pointer? Hit one over the fence? Sink a hole in one? etc etc. No? Then he should STFU about sports, right?

No.

His opinons are based on experiences he's had, and feelings and emotions that HE has come to accept as truths.


The same can (and should) be said for the people who, for example, bash Jay Leno. The guy sucks. He's not funny. Almost NOBODY thinks he's funny. Our opinion, or that of a TV reviewer is 100% valid even though we don't have the chops to be a stand up comedian.



You see this happen also with vocalists. If you go see The Who, and you bitch about Daltrey's voice, somebody will say "I'd like to see YOU do better!".
Fuck you. HE'S the singer. He's charging full price. Hit the notes, Roger.

It has nothing to do with the listener's abilities.

I'm always surprised to hear Ron, of all people, lower himself to such a petty defense.

[JimBeam]

I agree with that but there are some times when the " you don't have to have done it to comment on it " bothers me.

Mostly w/ sports.

You have a lot of these weasley guys that comment on things in the locker room and being a good teammate when they really have no idea of what they are talking about.

So in a way I have contradictary opinions about the idea.

[JimBeam]

I picked up on a few times during the NBA playoffs that Ron seems to still think of Boston as that city that never wins.

Does he realize that their baseball team has won 2 of the last 6 world series and their basketball team won the NBA title 2 years ago ?

That might've been the feeling post Red Sox 2004 but I don't think it still applies.

[helterskeletor]

I hate how Ron fills 3 hours and 30 minutes of a talk show that supposedly has a co-host and gets off tons of great lines where his partner gets MAYBE one. Then if Fez gets more than one or two a bunch of people talk about what a great day he had. Fuck Ron, that talking, joke-making jerkoff. I'd take 4 hours of silence and sobbing any day.

[spoon]

I hate how Ron fills 3 hours and 30 minutes of a talk show that supposedly has a co-host and gets off tons of great lines where his partner gets MAYBE one. Then if Fez gets more than one or two a bunch of people talk about what a great day he had. Fuck Ron, that talking, joke-making jerkoff. I'd take 4 hours of silence and sobbing any day.

I hate how you won't SHUT THE FUCK UP in every fucking thread about the same fucking thing. Holy shit, we get it, you don't like fucking Fez. GOT IT. GOD DAMMIT!!!

[disneyspy]

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[JimBeam]

I hate how you won't SHUT THE FUCK UP in every fucking thread about the same fucking thing. Holy shit, we get it, you don't like fucking Fez. GOT IT. GOD DAMMIT!!!

I was gonna say the same thing maybe a bit less harshly.

[instrument]

is it me or was ron's plot synopsis of Frailty really fucking wrong?

[spainlinx0]

is it me or was ron's plot synopsis of Frailty really fucking wrong?

I assumed he didn't want to spoil anything in the movie. However only one brother was freaked out by their dad's actions.

[helterskeletor]

I hate how you won't SHUT THE FUCK UP in every fucking thread about the same fucking thing. Holy shit, we get it, you don't like fucking Fez. GOT IT. GOD DAMMIT!!!

Fez?? Is that you??

Retire.

[spoon]

Fez?? Is that you??

Retire.

You should post some more of this all over in every thread possible. I can't hear your idiocy!? LOUDER!

[Serpico1103]

Ron said today that he didn't think any good music would go undiscovered. Then he said, it was incredible that Ryan Bingham was under the radar,

Good music, movies, books, all art can go undiscovered, unless mass media outlets think there is a market for it.

[dommer]

Randy Newman sucks.

[StanUpshaw]

Randy Newman is the hipster equivalent of Jimmy Buffett.

[JimBeam]

I diagree with Ron is his thinking that for one Cameron Diaz is even remotely attractive and that she looks like she hasn't aged in 15 years.

He obviously didn't see the pics that WWTDD had posted a few weeks back because she looked like a mummy that had come undone.

At work and that site's blocked so I can't link to the pics.

[JPMNICK]

I diagree with Ron is his thinking that for one Cameron Diaz is even remotely attractive and that she looks like she hasn't aged in 15 years.

He obviously didn't see the pics that WWTDD had posted a few weeks back because she looked like a mummy that had come undone.

At work and that site's blocked so I can't link to the pics.

she was never hot, ever

[Serpico1103]

I diagree with Ron is his thinking that for one Cameron Diaz is even remotely attractive and that she looks like she hasn't aged in 15 years.

He obviously didn't see the pics that WWTDD had posted a few weeks back because she looked like a mummy that had come undone.

At work and that site's blocked so I can't link to the pics.

she was never hot, ever

Agreed. She was always a skinny, no assed, ugly woman. Ron bases his opinion on having supposedly seen her at a museum. If she is ugly on film, I doubt in person helps any.

[JimBeam]

I only brought it up because in the batch of replays I'm listening to he's mentioned her like 3 times over a few days.

To me she's always looked like a frog w/ fried egg boobies.

[Crispy123]

The best line that Fez ever stole was not the, "I don't have kids, Im still practicing" line.

Stealing Opies bit about the brown paper bag for lunch was the best ever.

[dommer]

I don't think women are a species. They're just the females of the human species. Also prejudist isn't the root of the word. Prejudice is. Prejudiced is past tense of the root.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I'm listening to Ron's comments on Eric Volz, and I can't agree with Ron's assertion that the victim is to blame. You can't be Mr. "Crabs in a pot" and bitch about how those in power divide people to fight and then claim Volz should've known better. I live in the second poorest prefecture in Japan and probably make more than 90% of the people in my town, and if anyone here saw me with a local woman, they wouldn't be crazy about it, but it would never come to violence for its own sake.

[Fugitive]

I disagreed with Ron when a caller from Utah angered him by saying he (Ron) was "too hip for the room" when he objected to the Yankees paying tribute to soldiers before a game. Ron responded by saying "Fucking Mormon" and hanging up on the guy. For the record, the caller never identified himself as Mormon.

That's the first time I ever heard a religion put down so blatantly on the radio. It seems like people on the Left, like Ron, are intolerant of religion. Freedom of religion is in the Constitution, and tolerance of religion is one reason we're a stable society and don't have all the strife other countries have. I don't give those on the Right a free pass, either, because they seem to be intolerant of Muslims and like to insinuate they're all terrorists, which is nonsensical.

Anyway, I disagreed with Ron on that one and that's the only time I've had a strong negative reaction to anything he's said. Not because I'm Mormon--I don't follow any religion. I think another reason I had a problem was that it didnt' seem like there was any humor in it, just some kind of anger and bitterness.

--Fugitive

[JimBeam]

I disagreed with Ron when a caller from Utah angered him by saying he (Ron) was "too hip for the room" when he objected to the Yankees paying tribute to soldiers before a game. Ron responded by saying "Fucking Mormon" and hanging up on the guy. For the record, the caller never identified himself as Mormon.

That's the first time I ever heard a religion put down so blatantly on the radio. It seems like people on the Left, like Ron, are intolerant of religion. Freedom of religion is in the Constitution, and tolerance of religion is one reason we're a stable society and don't have all the strife other countries have. I don't give those on the Right a free pass, either, because they seem to be intolerant of Muslims and like to insinuate they're all terrorists, which is nonsensical.

Anyway, I disagreed with Ron on that one and that's the only time I've had a strong negative reaction to anything he's said. Not because I'm Mormon--I don't follow any religion. I think another reason I had a problem was that it didnt' seem like there was any humor in it, just some kind of anger and bitterness.

--Fugitive

I don't know that Ron is left leaning and I'm not sure that we determine whether he is or not from what he says. A lot of his bits, which make him great, are where he appears to be playing devil's advocate or just goes so far over the top ( the other day when he was claiming to be raised in the Westboro Baptist Church ).

I do think that he is non-religious, but not necessarily anti-religion, but that's his right.

[Fugitive]

Agree you can't make firm inferences about his beliefs or attitudes from what he's said on the show. But--he appears to be a lapsed Catholic in rebellion. I say that because he admitted to a negative emotional reaction to the "pissed on Jesus picture" episode of "Curb." Having a religous background seems to have given him a lot of knowledge that he can use for satire. Dave, on the other hand, used to get into blasphemy, if it's fair for a non-religious person to make a judgement on that. I've heard Ron do it, too, for that matter. But--if you're strict about it, a lot of humor is like that. Just like the standup routine about--if Jesus had married, his wife would have been nagging him, "When are you gonna get down from there?"

[K.C.]

Anthony Cumia is mentally unstable is the greatest thread in the history of the internet. Sorry Ron.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I do think that he is non-religious

That depends on you definition of what a religion is.

[JimBeam]

I think he doesn't believe in a higher power or an afterlife of any kind.

But on the flip side I don't think he's saying that people shouldn't or don't have their own right to believe.

But you never know w/ him as it could be a bit and he's not sharing his true feelings and could be very religious.

[JimBeam]

I disagree w/ Ron's love of Jon Stewart.

Now I have not watched the Daily Show in years, but I have seen parts here and there, and to me Stewart is still that same unfunny douche he was when his shows on MTV and NBC were cancelled back in the 90's.

Sure I hate his politics but I found him unfunny before I even knew what his political trend was.

The Daily Show may be great but it always has been because it has great writers.

I thought the show was " can't miss " when Kilborn hosted it and I guess that had more to do w/ the writers than him because I didn't find his CBS show to be as funny.

Stewart to me still does that thing he's always done when one of his jokes doesn't go over and that's he repeats it and kinda tries to walk yout through the joke.

No it's not that I didn't get it, it's that the joke wasn't funny.

[underdog]

I disagree w/ Ron's love of Jon Stewart.

Now I have not watched the Daily Show in years, but I have seen parts here and there, and to me Stewart is still that same unfunny douche he was when his shows on MTV and NBC were cancelled back in the 90's.

Sure I hate his politics but I found him unfunny before I even knew what his political trend was.

The Daily Show may be great but it always has been because it has great writers.

I thought the show was " can't miss " when Kilborn hosted it and I guess that had more to do w/ the writers than him because I didn't find his CBS show to be as funny.

Stewart to me still does that thing he's always done when one of his jokes doesn't go over and that's he repeats it and kinda tries to walk yout through the joke.

No it's not that I didn't get it, it's that the joke wasn't funny.

you're right, you haven't watched it in years.

[JimBeam]

Meaning you think that Stewart actually somehow became funny on his own ?

Seems almost impossible.

[realmenhatelife]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/sep/23/susan-boyle-cover-perfect-day


Lou Reed disagrees with Ron, Susan Boyle will cover "Perfect Day" on her new album. Also, it seems that the whole artistic integrity notion that Ron jumped on had nothing to do with it, it was just a matter of which country they had obtained the rights in. Lou Reed just wanted his whole check, and theres nothing wrong with that.

[midwestjeff]

Not all Cardinals fans are gay.

[RoseBlood]

Not all Cardinals fans are gay.

The hell you say?!

[midwestjeff]

The hell you say?!

Don't sass me, woman!

[Serpico1103]

Not all Cardinals fans are gay.

Some are straight women.

[hanso]

Ron said that Aerosmith only had one mainstream song. Must be a joke. They have many. And turned bubble gum as I like to say long ago.

[Serpico1103]

Ron said that Aerosmith only had one mainstream song. Must be a joke. They have many. And turned bubble gum as I like to say long ago.

Unless he is referring to all their mainstream songs sounding alike.

[NewYorkDragons80]

I think he doesn't believe in a higher power or an afterlife of any kind.

I think you're wrong about this, especially the way you worded it. Back when they were at WNEW I was convinced he was an atheist, but in the current show he intimates vague spirituality during certain discussions, whether in his attitude towards a member of the listening community if they pass away or get seriously ill or a few months ago they discussed atheism and he caught shit from atheist listeners for saying 1) he felt atheism is belief on some level and 2) he made a vague reference to a higher power or consciousness. Maybe I'm reading him wrong, though.

[thepaulo]

I think you're wrong about this, especially the way you worded it. Back when they were at WNEW I was convinced he was an atheist, but in the current show he intimates vague spirituality during certain discussions, whether in his attitude towards a member of the listening community if they pass away or get seriously ill or a few months ago they discussed atheism and he caught shit from atheist listeners for saying 1) he felt atheism is belief on some level and 2) he made a vague reference to a higher power or consciousness. Maybe I'm reading him wrong, though.

I have made repeated attempts to clarify him on this issue.
My personal feelings are clear.
I feel atheists are idiots.
There only thing that is certain is that none of us know anything for sure and to belittle people who believe is arrogant and stupid.
I personally look at all possibilities to find the truth.

[midwestjeff]

I have made repeated attempts to clarify him on this issue.
My personal feelings are clear.
I feel atheists are idiots.
There only thing that is certain is that none of us know anything for sure and to belittle people who believe is arrogant and stupid.
I personally look at all possibilities to find the truth.

I agree with Ron on this one, thepaulo sucks shit.

[hanso]

Unless he is referring to all their mainstream songs sounding alike.

Armageddon is the one he said.

[hanso]

I have made repeated attempts to clarify him on this issue.
My personal feelings are clear.
I feel atheists are idiots.
There only thing that is certain is that none of us know anything for sure and to belittle people who believe is arrogant and stupid.
I personally look at all possibilities to find the truth.

What about agnostics?
They are the ones sitting on the fence. When the loons come calling door to door.

[thepaulo]

What about agnostics?
They are the ones sitting on the fence. When the loons come calling door to door.

agnostics are good. Most people are agnostic on some level whether they admit or not.

[dozerking]

agnostics are good. Most people are agnostic on some level whether they admit or not.

Atheism is based more on the belief in science and what we can and can't observe. Without any sort of evidence whatsoever that there is a god is the issue atheists have with people that "just believe". God is an idea sold over centuries when most humans lived a miserable existence. The idea that there is a spaghetti monster that flies around the earth sounds more plausible than a man that judges everything we do, and according to some beliefs, forgives people's actions anyway. Fucking insane. It's Santa Clause for adults ffs. Agnostics are people that realize this, but have lost loved ones they want to see again or are scared of death itself and don't want to admit it's the end of existence. Believing in books written from the bronze and iron age is far more fucking insane, padded room insane banging your head against the wall insane.

[StanUpshaw]

Everybody has a slightly different definition for terms like atheist and agnostic, so that sort of labeling is essentially useless. There's far more utility in gauging your level of belief on a numerical scale. Zero means you have absolute certainty that god doesn't exist and ten means you have absolute certainty that god does exist.

If you ask me, being either a 0 or a 10 is a completely untenable position, because that requires knowledge that no one has access to. I don't think you can be a zero when it comes to god, but likewise, you can't be a zero when it comes to leprechauns either. It's impossible to prove a negative.

[danner1515]

agnostics are good. Most people are agnostic on some level whether they admit or not.

Agreed. Bashing agnostics doesn't make any sense to me. I hate to echo the sentiments of Bill Maher, but I think agnosticism is the most honest and humble view anyone can have.

[Bob Impact]

I'll just leave this here.
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[A.J.]

Airplane and All in the Family aren't funny and are dated? Compared to The Honeymooners?

[fezident]

I absolutely hate, don't understand, and disagree with Ron's "you are who you pretend to be" theory.
Joaquin Pheonix isn't "crazy". It was a bit. A gag. He grew his hair for a role. He's not crazy. Ron sounds like a retard when he pretends (yea, pretends) to not know the difference.


Also, it drives me nuts everytime Ron says "stoled" instead of "stole". He also says "stoopit" instead of "stupid". Drives me nuts.
Oh, and "acrossed" instead of "across".
It bugs me for two reasons,
It makes him sound uneducated.
And... you KNOW that he would rip a caller for speaking like that.

[TjM]

Married with Children was fucking good. Also Ron your listeners don't "Have a taste for shit" We simply like you despite you being an elitist prick who likes art house shit

[TjM]

I absolutely hate, don't understand, and disagree with Ron's "you are who you pretend to be" theory.
Joaquin Pheonix isn't "crazy". It was a bit. A gag. He grew his hair for a role. He's not crazy. Ron sounds like a retard when he pretends (yea, pretends) to not know the difference.


Also, it drives me nuts everytime Ron says "stoled" instead of "stole". He also says "stoopit" instead of "stupid". Drives me nuts.
Oh, and "acrossed" instead of "across".
It bugs me for two reasons,
It makes him sound uneducated.
And... you KNOW that he would rip Fez for speaking like that.

FTFY

[Son of Muta]

I absolutely hate, don't understand, and disagree with Ron's "you are who you pretend to be" theory.
Joaquin Pheonix isn't "crazy". It was a bit. A gag. He grew his hair for a role. He's not crazy. Ron sounds like a retard when he pretends (yea, pretends) to not know the difference.


Also, it drives me nuts everytime Ron says "stoled" instead of "stole". He also says "stoopit" instead of "stupid". Drives me nuts.
Oh, and "acrossed" instead of "across".
It bugs me for two reasons,
It makes him sound uneducated.
And... you KNOW that he would rip a caller for speaking like that.

Ron is a mush mouth.

Also, he rips people for being homers when he himself is a homer for all things Philly.

And another thing, why is RBI, seemingly, so well liked? He's not a good interviewer, but I guess compared others on the channel he's King.

[danner1515]

Also, it drives me nuts everytime Ron says "stoled" instead of "stole". He also says "stoopit" instead of "stupid". Drives me nuts.
Oh, and "acrossed" instead of "across".
It bugs me for two reasons,
It makes him sound uneducated.
And... you KNOW that he would rip a caller for speaking like that.

Don't forget "drownding."

It always drives me nuts whenever Ron makes fun of Fez for mispronouncing a word when he himself struggles with so many words. Same deal with him throwing fat jokes at Fez. "Bit" or not, it's annoying.

[sailor]

And another thing, why is RBI, seemingly, so well liked? He's not a good interviewer, but I guess compared others on the channel he's King.

You're mad if you think he's not a good interviewer.

[foodcourtdruide]

Ron is a mush mouth.

Also, he rips people for being homers when he himself is a homer for all things Philly.

And another thing, why is RBI, seemingly, so well liked? He's not a good interviewer, but I guess compared others on the channel he's King.

He's definitely a Philly homer, but when has he knocked homers? And if you think he's not a good interviewer you're insane. Ron does some of the best interviews I've ever heard. I've listened to some of his interviews more than 10x (Kevorkian interview was amazing).

I don't think Ron's perfect, as there are definitely some things I disagree with him on.

[Serpico1103]

He's definitely a Philly homer, but when has he knocked homers? And if you think he's not a good interviewer you're insane. Ron does some of the best interviews I've ever heard. I've listened to some of his interviews more than 10x (Kevorkian interview was amazing).

I don't think Ron's perfect, as there are definitely some things I disagree with him on.

I think he mostly critiques people for being homers when they are trying to act they are giving unbiased information.

His interviews are great. For the wide range of people they have in, I can't imagine someone having the breadth and depth of knowledge he has on the subjects, and still keeping it very funny.
Some interviews are just ok, but as a whole, it is an amazing piece of work.

[PapaBear]

You're mad if you think he's not a good interviewer.
Exactly. Look at how many times the subject of an interview tells him it's a really good interview. I've never seen anyone else EVER have someone say that to them.

[phrontisterion]

I have to admit, I find something unfortunate about a comedian resorting to interviewing celebrities. The same way I have misgivings about comedians hosting game shows. Even if they are proficient in these formats, why not just be a comedian?

[TripleSkeet]

I have to admit, I find something unfortunate about a comedian resorting to interviewing celebrities. The same way I have misgivings about comedians hosting game shows. Even if they are proficient in these formats, why not just be a comedian?

Hes not a comedian. Hes a radio show host. Now the show is a comedy show and hes funny as fuck, but part of that job is interviewing guests.

And his interviews are fantastic. I think its because unlike most, he actually does research into his interviewees. It amazes me how many times hes read the book or watched the movie of someone hes interviewing just so that he knows what hes talking about. Most hosts dont have the slightest idea about half the guests they interview.

[Serpico1103]

I have to admit, I find something unfortunate about a comedian resorting to interviewing celebrities. The same way I have misgivings about comedians hosting game shows. Even if they are proficient in these formats, why not just be a comedian?

I would think you would have a problem with a comedian being a talk show host than as well. It isn't like he just toured for a while, ran out of new material, and sold his soul for sitcom. That is sad... or lucky.
I don't think being a stand up is where he belongs, traveling around on one good hour.

[dommer]

I absolutely hate, don't understand, and disagree with Ron's "you are who you pretend to be" theory.
Joaquin Pheonix isn't "crazy". It was a bit. A gag. He grew his hair for a role. He's not crazy. Ron sounds like a retard when he pretends (yea, pretends) to not know the difference.


Also, it drives me nuts everytime Ron says "stoled" instead of "stole". He also says "stoopit" instead of "stupid". Drives me nuts.
Oh, and "acrossed" instead of "across".
It bugs me for two reasons,
It makes him sound uneducated.
And... you KNOW that he would rip a caller for speaking like that.

Don't forget about "prejudist", and "any more" used inappropriately constantly. "Any more" does not mean that something is going on into perpetuity, it means it is coming to an end when used in conjunction with a word expressing negativity. "We don't sell that color any more" is correct. "The internet is changing the world any more" is nonsensical. "Any more" is synonymous with "any longer". It can't stand alone. I don't know if it's a Philadelphia thing, but Ron says a surprising (and kind of embarrassing) number of words incorrectly. First impression would be that he's a moron. This is quickly erased, of course, the man's a genius. You can hardly blame him, nobody has the stones on the show to correct him on anything, which is why we occasionally get to hear what's going on with "Morgan FreeDman", so that's good.

[sailor]

anymore is used correctly on the show as has been pointed out numerous times. it is not only for negative uses, which seems to be how you're taking it anymore.

from merriam-webster (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anymore): at the present time : now - hardly a day passes without rain anymore

it's the equivalent of now-a-days

[Recyclerz]

I absolutely hate, don't understand, and disagree with Ron's "you are who you pretend to be" theory.
Joaquin Pheonix isn't "crazy". It was a bit. A gag. He grew his hair for a role. He's not crazy. Ron sounds like a retard when he pretends (yea, pretends) to not know the difference.


I disagree with Fezident. The "You are who you pretend to be" meme, while not established as fact, is a central theme that has been part of Western philosophy from Socrates through the Existentialists, as well as being a potential mental health exercise for folks like Fezzie who get stuck in their neuroses. Other ways to express the concept are "to do is to be" or, in a religious context, "by your works shall you be known."

For an excellent rumination on the concept I would suggest reading Vonnegut's Mother Night. There is also a surprisingly good movie version of the book with Nick Nolte and John Goodman.

[fezident]

Don't forget about "prejudist", and "any more" used inappropriately constantly. "Any more" does not mean that something is going on into perpetuity, it means it is coming to an end when used in conjunction with a word expressing negativity. "We don't sell that color any more" is correct. "The internet is changing the world any more" is nonsensical. "Any more" is synonymous with "any longer". It can't stand alone. I don't know if it's a Philadelphia thing, but Ron says a surprising (and kind of embarrassing) number of words incorrectly. First impression would be that he's a moron. This is quickly erased, of course, the man's a genius. You can hardly blame him, nobody has the stones on the show to correct him on anything, which is why we occasionally get to hear what's going on with "Morgan FreeDman", so that's good.

The new (incorrect) use of "anymore" drives me absolutely CRAZY but, sadly, it IS catching on. I hear people use it the "new" way every once in a while and I always wince. It is one of the most ignorant and ridiculous things I've ever heard and yet.... this new usage has made it's way into the dictionary.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anymore
As recently as two years ago... it wasn't in there.


EDIT:
Oops, Hello Sailor.
The usage of "Anymore" replacing "Nowadays" is VERY new. This didn't exist just a few short years ago, and therefore... it drives some of us crazy.
Perhaps this is something like when the word "bad" became a synonym for "really good" back in the 80ies. I'm sure that drove older people just as nuts.

[underdog]

The new (incorrect) use of "anymore" drives me absolutely CRAZY but, sadly, it IS catching on. I hear people use it the "new" way every once in a while and I always wince. It is one of the most ignorant and ridiculous things I've ever heard and yet.... this new usage has made it's way into the dictionary.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anymore
As recently as two years ago... it wasn't in there.


EDIT:
Oops, Hello Sailor.

It was definitely been in the longer than 2 years because people have been saying Ron has been saying it wrong since the beginning of their XM days and it's always been in the dictionary to prove them wrong.

[fezident]

Then there's gotta be something else going on here.
Perhaps Webster's dictionary acknowledged it, and Mirriam's didn't. Or SOMETHING like that.

Over the years... I've had the "anymore" argument with various people and I know for a fact that we couldn't find it in the dictionary in 2007. (I was living in Brooklyn at the time, that's how I know the year... yada yada yada).
It's 2010 and and now I find it in the dictionary.

Not trying to be argumentative... just explaining how I arrived at my earlier statements.

[StanUpshaw]

The new (incorrect) use of "anymore" drives me absolutely CRAZY but, sadly, it IS catching on. I hear people use it the "new" way every once in a while and I always wince. It is one of the most ignorant and ridiculous things I've ever heard and yet.... this new usage has made it's way into the dictionary.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anymore
As recently as two years ago... it wasn't in there.


EDIT:
Oops, Hello Sailor.
The usage of "Anymore" replacing "Nowadays" is VERY new. This didn't exist just a few short years ago, and therefore... it drives some of us crazy.
Perhaps this is something like when the word "bad" became a synonym for "really good" back in the 80ies. I'm sure that drove older people just as nuts.

Language evolves...this is news to you????

[fezident]

Yes. Yes it does.
The word "terabyte" suddenly showing up on day doesn't bother me at all.

The word "anymore" suddenly having an all-new (and somewhat opposite) usage IS confusing.

Also, the new usage of "anymore" is NOT widespread. Not even close. I've mentoned it, and given examples of it, several times with my friends and coworkers over the years and none of them have ever heard it used in the new way. When I hear it on the RnF show, I sometimes rewind it and play it for my coworkers, and they always have the same reaction of "that's crazy" or "that's ridiculous" or whatever.
A friend of mine is a teacher. Back in 2006/7 , I asked him if his students use "anymore" in this new way, and he said "no, never". THIS year, in he last two weeks, he says he now hears it all the time.
It's brand new here in NYC. In some circles. it doesn't exist, in other circles, it's barely a few months old

[StanUpshaw]

Yes. Yes it does.
The word "terabyte" suddenly showing up on day doesn't bother me at all.

The word "anymore" suddenly having an all-new (and somewhat opposite) usage IS confusing.

Also, the new usage of "anymore" is NOT widespread. Not even close. I've mentoned it, and given examples of it, several times with my friends and coworkers over the years and none of them have ever heard it used in the new way. When I hear it on the RnF show, I sometimes rewind it and play it for my coworkers, and they always have the same reaction of "that's crazy" or "that's ridiculous" or whatever.
A friend of mine is a teacher. Back in 2006/7 , I asked him if his students use "anymore" in this new way, and he said "no, never". THIS year, in he last two weeks, he says he now hears it all the time.
It's brand new here in NYC. In some circles. it doesn't exist, in other circles, it's barely a few months old

It is far from new. Cranky old ladies have been complaining that it violates prescription for a century or more (A Comment on Anymore © 1975 (http://www.jstor.org/pss/3088009)).

It's a fairly common thing to become conscious of word or phrase, and then "suddenly" start hearing it all the time. It's not because people started using it more, you're just paying attention to it.

[fezident]

I am certainly aware of the "notice it" phenomenon.
But that doesn't explain the fact that friends, family, and coworkers have not heard it. As I said earlier, when I hear it on the show, I will at it for people, and they are shocked and confused by the new usage.

[StanUpshaw]

They need to get out more.

[fezident]

You're right. Midtown Manhattan is pretty remote.

[danner1515]

They need to get out more.
I think it's a regional thing. I never heard it used that way until I started listening to Ron & Fez.

[dommer]

I think it's a regional thing. I never heard it used that way until I started listening to Ron & Fez.

As the first person in the thread to complain about "any more", I wasn't even aware that it could be spelled as a single word. So who's the fucking idiot now? I am, internet. I am.

[PapaBear]

I disagree with a couple things Ron has said regarding John Wayne in the past several weeks. I'm still a week behind in the show, so I don't know if anyone has brought this up on the show.

1: Ron recently said The Cowboys was his last movie. The Shootist was his last movie. He made six more movies aftr The Cowboys.

2: When talking about True Grit, he said they gave him the Oscar because he was finally due to get one. I can't really argue against that, but he also said part of the reason they gave it to him was because he was dying. He got that Oscar nine years before he died.

[hanso]

Fried bologna rocks Ron. You put ketchup on it. I thought you had Florida ties from back in the day. What gives?

[fezident]

I've stated earlier that I strongly disagree (and don't even comprehend!) Ron's "you are who you pretend to be" stance. I literally do not understand where he's even coming from on this one but...
... I found it interesting that he was arguing AGAINST his own "logic" when he was debating with Rustin about the politician who dressed up like a Nazi. Ron stated many many times that the guy was did nothing wrong because he playing a role. He was acting. He was playing a part.
This directly contradicts Ron's view of how "truly crazy" Joaquin Phoenix is/was.

[spankyfrank]

I've stated earlier that I strongly disagree (and don't even comprehend!) Ron's "you are who you pretend to be" stance. I literally do not understand where he's even coming from on this one but...
... I found it interesting that he was arguing AGAINST his own "logic" when he was debating with Rustin about the politician who dressed up like a Nazi. Ron stated many many times that the guy was did nothing wrong because he playing a role. He was acting. He was playing a part.
This directly contradicts Ron's view of how "truly crazy" Joaquin Phoenix is/was.

While you are entitled to your opinion, your grammar is something that I cannot and will not stand for sir!!!!!!

[Devo37]

While you are entitled to your opinion, your grammar is something that I cannot, and will not stand for, sir!!!!!!

Nor will I.

[fezident]

Damn it.
Yeah... I typed that like shit.

[fezident]

Morgan Freedman.

[StanUpshaw]

Ron always talks about how Canada is some beautiful woman factory.

It's just a bizarre thing to say. First because there is obviously no increased percentage of attractive people from Canada, and second because there is nothing distinctive about a Canadian.

[PapaBear]

Ron always talks about how Canada is some beautiful woman factory.

It's just a bizarre thing to say. First because there is obviously no increased percentage of attractive people from Canada, and second because there is nothing distinctive about a Canadian.
Isn't he usually just referring to the quality of the strippers, and not women in general?

[StanUpshaw]

Isn't he usually just referring to the quality of the strippers, and not women in general?

He's talked about strippers and civilians both.

[spoon]

strippers aren't civilians now??

[PapaBear]

strippers aren't civilians now??
In Canada, they're civil servants.

[spoon]

In Canada, they're civil servants.

most strippers I know aren't very civil

[underdog]

Ron always talks about how Canada is some beautiful woman factory.

It's just a bizarre thing to say. First because there is obviously no increased percentage of attractive people from Canada, and second because there is nothing distinctive about a Canadian.

The women in Toronto are the most beautiful women I've ever seen. It's insane. And the strippers here are the hottest I've ever come across.

[StanUpshaw]

And the strippers here are the hottest I've ever come across.

They let you do that up there?

[spoon]

they love to pick up loonies and twoonies with their lower lips

[realmenhatelife]

When talking about True Grit, he said they gave him the Oscar because he was finally due to get one. I can't really argue against that, but he also said part of the reason they gave it to him was because he was dying. He got that Oscar nine years before he died.


They had taken out one of his lungs at that point.

[underdog]

They let you do that up there?

It's Canada. Of course.

[fezident]

Ron really shows his age when he rips on Aerosmith for "having one hit". They've had, like, 12 bona fide hit singles since they launched their comeback back in the 80ies.
Yeah... it's been a minute since they had a song on the charts NOW, but, shit that band had hits. Certainly more than "one hit single that was written by some chick".

[JimBeam]

Not listening now so I don't know the context but we all know he's a music snob.

His belief is that the obscure ( in the sense that it might not be that well known and not that only Top 40 is well known ) music he likes is what's " cool " and everything else sucks.

It's like DMM said in the Taylor Swift thread about beauty. You'll never get everybody to agree on what's " best ".

[Zipgun]

Ron really shows his age when he rips on Aerosmith for "having one hit". They've had, like, 12 bona fide hit singles since they launched their comeback back in the 80ies.
Yeah... it's been a minute since they had a song on the charts NOW, but, shit that band had hits. Certainly more than "one hit single that was written by some chick".

But the point being, a hit that was any good.

Sure, the song from Armegeddon written by the chick was a hit, but that doesn't make it a good song in the context of what Aerosmith was as far as a hard rock band. Are you seriously going to listen to "I don't want to miss a thing" or whatever it's called and think it's a great rock song the same way you'd look at "Train kept a'rollin"?

And for the record, I never liked Aerosmith even when they were "good". I even preferred REM's version of Toys In The Attic better.

[WhatsInTheBoxx]

Ron really shows his age when he rips on Aerosmith for "having one hit". They've had,...hit singles since they launched their comeback ...
Yeah... it's been a minute since they had a song on the charts NOW, but, shit that band had hits. Certainly more than "one hit single that was written by some chick".

Ah, no - he just has good taste. I think the angle is more like ragging on them for A) kinda being Sellouty-RedHotChiPepper-ish and B) They should've stopped yeeeeears ago. Like O and/or A said, you wonder if Tyler is regretting the Dude Looks Ladyish song hehe


Not listening now so I don't know the context but we all know he's a music snob.
His belief is that the obscure ( in the sense that it might not be that well known and not that only Top 40 is well known ) music he likes is what's " cool " and everything else sucks..

It's less about automatically hating stuff that's cool, more about looking past your Joe Blow/Average DouchBag stuff and finding the real good stuff. I have no time for most of the shit out there..

Oh, and for the record, regarding music - please no more Alt-Country Rustin music...That "Come Together" Country song felt like 18 minutes... Just one song is too much.

I was at work listening (i'm generally a week behind on the show) to that song, was busy, and thus couldn't fast-forward and that FUCKING song had like 12 verses.

Anyway, I need a beer and a joint. . . Stiiinnnk Nutttttttttttttttttttsss!! :wacko:

[spoon]

Ah, no - he just has good taste. I think the angle is more like ragging on them for A) kinda being Sellouty-RedHotChiPepper-ish and B) They should've stopped yeeeeears ago. Like O and/or A said, you wonder if Tyler is regretting the Dude Looks Ladyish song hehe




It's less about automatically hating stuff that's cool, more about looking past your Joe Blow/Average DouchBag stuff and finding the real good stuff. I have no time for most of the shit out there..

Oh, and for the record, regarding music - please no more Alt-Country Rustin music...That "Come Together" Country song felt like 18 minutes... Just one song is too much.

I was at work listening (i'm generally a week behind on the show) to that song, was busy, and thus couldn't fast-forward and that FUCKING song had like 12 verses.

Anyway, I need a beer and a joint. . . Stiiinnnk Nutttttttttttttttttttsss!! :wacko:

Not good taste, his taste and we all have a different outlook on music. Of course there are complete disasters out there, but most of Ronnie's music is hardly obscure, it's just old. There is a difference. We all seemingly stay close to the music era of our teens through early 30's.

[fezident]

This is a bit of a tangent in this thread but... here goes...

I was listening to the Lennox/Spector moment, and it was bothering me that Ronnie B seemed to enjoying it so.
Ron has stated hundreds of times that he "can't comprehend" why somebody would want an autograph. Or a photo. He has (aaaalmost) made it sound like he resents those who clamor for an photo-op.
But when Lennox and Spector met each other... they did EXACTLY what "normal people" do when they are face to face with an idol... they GUSH. They explode with joy. They lose their words. They want an autograph. They want a photo. They want tickets to a show. They want to tell 'em how much they've meant to their lives. They wanna talk about their kids. They wanna share moments. Etc etc.

Ron (pretends that he) simply can't understand why somebody would freak over these encounters. But he sure did seem to be enjoying THIS moment. He was elated. It was almost out of character for him.

I know Ron means well. But his coolest-guy-in-the-room thing gets old.

[JimBeam]

I was listening to a show from a few weeks ago when they were going on about Adam Sandler movies and at one point Ron was talking about how funny Chris Rock was.

To me Chris Rock was funny for 5 minutes what seems like 20 years ago.

I haven't had the urge or patience to watch anything w/ him in such a long time.

Comparing him to Sandler is just ridiculous in my opinion.

Sure Sandlers got a few gimmicks that get old but the key is he has a few.

Chris Rock does that ridiculous rasing his voice, talk " black " gimmick and that's it.

[TripleSkeet]

I was listening to a show from a few weeks ago when they were going on about Adam Sandler movies and at one point Ron was talking about how funny Chris Rock was.

To me Chris Rock was funny for 5 minutes what seems like 20 years ago.

I haven't had the urge or patience to watch anything w/ him in such a long time.

Comparing him to Sandler is just ridiculous in my opinion.

Sure Sandlers got a few gimmicks that get old but the key is he has a few.

Chris Rock does that ridiculous rasing his voice, talk " black " gimmick and that's it.

I think Chris Rock is alot funnier then Sandler, but I do agree that Sandler has his gimmicks that work. Hes just one of those guys that everything he touches turns to gold. Movies, music, comedy cd's, cartoons, etc.

[underdog]

I was listening to a show from a few weeks ago when they were going on about Adam Sandler movies and at one point Ron was talking about how funny Chris Rock was.

To me Chris Rock was funny for 5 minutes what seems like 20 years ago.

I haven't had the urge or patience to watch anything w/ him in such a long time.

Comparing him to Sandler is just ridiculous in my opinion.

Sure Sandlers got a few gimmicks that get old but the key is he has a few.

Chris Rock does that ridiculous rasing his voice, talk " black " gimmick and that's it.

This is fucking insanity.

Chris Rock is one of the funniest people ever.

[foodcourtdruide]

This is fucking insanity.

Chris Rock is one of the funniest people ever.

Really? I loved Chris Rock's Bring the Pain stand-up, it was one of the best ones I've ever seen. However, besides that what has he done that's so hilarious? Down to Earth? No Sex in the Champagne Room? Everybody Hates Chris? I don't really remember the Chris Rock show on HBO, but was it that funny? I remember it being OK.

[JimBeam]

To each his own but I personally could watch Chappelle's stuff over and over and I wouldn't give Rock's stuff a first nevermind a second vieweing.

[TripleSkeet]

To each his own but I personally could watch Chappelle's stuff over and over and I wouldn't give Rock's stuff a first nevermind a second vieweing.

Well now youre talking apples and oranges. I mean I think it goes with saying that Chapelle is 10 times funnier then both of them.

[foodcourtdruide]

Well now youre talking apples and oranges. I mean I think it goes with saying that Chapelle is 10 times funnier then both of them.

His show. I never liked his stand-up.

[Zorro]

This is fucking insanity.

Chris Rock is one of the funniest people ever.

I've seen Rock live a few times. when he's on he's on, but when he's off it's a train wreck. Saw him at a New year's show a couple of years back and he came across like it was the last place he wanted to be.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Really? I loved Chris Rock's Bring the Pain stand-up, it was one of the best ones I've ever seen. However, besides that what has he done that's so hilarious? Down to Earth? No Sex in the Champagne Room? Everybody Hates Chris? I don't really remember the Chris Rock show on HBO, but was it that funny? I remember it being OK.

That's not a good argument. How many funny movies did Richard Pryor do? George Carlin?

[foodcourtdruide]

That's not a good argument. How many funny movies did Richard Pryor do? George Carlin?

What I mentioned weren't just movies, but I get what you're saying. We do judge those other guys based solely on their stand-up.

[WhatsInTheBoxx]

This is a bit of a tangent in this thread but... here goes...

I was listening to the Lennox/Spector moment, and it was bothering me that Ronnie B seemed to enjoying it so.
Ron has stated hundreds of times that he "can't comprehend" why somebody would want an autograph. Or a photo. He has (aaaalmost) made it sound like he resents those who clamor for an photo-op.
But when Lennox and Spector met each other... they did EXACTLY what "normal people" do when they are face to face with an idol... they GUSH. They explode with joy. They lose their words. They want an autograph. They want a photo. They want tickets to a show. They want to tell 'em how much they've meant to their lives. They wanna talk about their kids. They wanna share moments. Etc etc.

Ron (pretends that he) simply can't understand why somebody would freak over these encounters. But he sure did seem to be enjoying THIS moment. He was elated. It was almost out of character for him.

I know Ron means well. But his coolest-guy-in-the-room thing gets old.

I just heard the Lennox/Spector show yesterday, and it was a really nice moment. I think what Ron was getting at with that stuff is right on... but in the end if someone wants something tangible to remember that's cool I guess.

This didn't seem too out of the ordinary, as much as Ron doesn't like that photo op/autograff stuff, he also wanted them too have their space and meet up. So kudos (maybe 2 kudos!) to Ron for not stepping on the moment, etc.

Gonna hit the Smoke Zone in the La-la-la-la... Spin earth the other way in the La-la-la-la . .

[Jonny Jonson]

Ron is fat. He's fatter than Fez. A lot fatter. Where does he get off making weight jokes about Fez?

What an asshole.

[Chigworthy]

More like Unfunny Nofunson.

[fezident]

I just heard the Lennox/Spector show yesterday, and it was a really nice moment. I think what Ron was getting at with that stuff is right on... but in the end if someone wants something tangible to remember that's cool I guess.

This didn't seem too out of the ordinary, as much as Ron doesn't like that photo op/autograff stuff, he also wanted them too have their space and meet up. So kudos (maybe 2 kudos!) to Ron for not stepping on the moment, etc.

Gonna hit the Smoke Zone in the La-la-la-la... Spin earth the other way in the La-la-la-la . .

Of course, I agree that it was a sweet "real" moment. And yes.. Ron facilitated that moment. All good things.
I just feel like Ron sometimes forgets that regular people don't get to bump into celebs on a daily basis like he does. Bruce and Eminem aren't strolling through the hallways at our jobs. Josie Bisset doesn't just pop her head into our cubical. Marlo Thomas doesn't ask our boss if she can stop by and do a 2nd hour interview. Ya know.

When Ron sees/hears about a regular Joe that wants to meet a celeb, or get an autograph or photo... he acts likes they're a goober. What he forgets is, many people go their whole life without bumping into a famous person. If they get into a random elevator... and Jerry Seinfeld is in it too... yeah... that person is gonna want a photo! If for no other reason than to convince their friends that it really happened or what have you.

If Ron saw a "regular person" freak out say, in an elevator, over Ronnie Spector the way Lennox did, he would probably have a problem with it. He would have brought it up over the air and laid into the person for being painfully uncool.

[JimBeam]

I found it a bit annoying on Monday's show when Ron was breaking Fez's balls about the party.

Dave shows up at the party either uninvited ( I'm not sure ) but surely unexpectedly and then wants to also sleep over and Fez isn't supposed to question that and/or be pissed ?

Ron kept saying that Dave couldn't drive home because he was drunk then Ron should've let him crash at his place.

I know some, if not most of it, was a bit to get on Fez either way but I also think a part of it was true. That he thought Fez shouldn't have a problem at all with it.

I dig the Ron messing w/ Fez bit most of the time but for some reason this bothered me.

[midwestjeff]

Ron kept saying that Dave couldn't drive home because he was drunk then Ron should've let him crash at his place.

And risk getting piss all over his awesome furniture?

You do realize that Ron has special order couches filled with
baby bald eagle feathers and covered in luxurious panda bear fur right?

[JimBeam]

That's true.

He wouldn't want Dave's chimney sweep bag ruining those babies.

[hanso]

I found it a bit annoying on Monday's show when Ron was breaking Fez's balls about the party.

Dave shows up at the party either uninvited ( I'm not sure ) but surely unexpectedly and then wants to also sleep over and Fez isn't supposed to question that and/or be pissed ?

Ron kept saying that Dave couldn't drive home because he was drunk then Ron should've let him crash at his place.

I know some, if not most of it, was a bit to get on Fez either way but I also think a part of it was true. That he thought Fez shouldn't have a problem at all with it.

I dig the Ron messing w/ Fez bit most of the time but for some reason this bothered me.

Same here, to me it seemed like he was prodding him into crying.

[JimBeam]

Again I know he does that a lot, and at times Fez deserves it, but in this case the f-ing guy was nice enough to have people over so he didn't need to get shit on because Dave's a dirtbag.

[Crispy123]

You could easily take down an airplane with a bale of pot by throwing it into the engine intake, Ron.

[hanso]

When you say you're going to break...How bout you go to break?
CYA!

[PapaBear]

When you say you're going to break...How bout you go to break?
CYA!
Ditto. Makes skipping commercials on 2Go difficult when driving.

[fezident]

Jesus, Ron.

People don't want "what's shiny and new". They want things to make sense and be enjoyable. Not disposable.

His opinion on fanboys and George Lucas and comicbooks and pop music (etc) is hilariously selfish and mis-informed.
With Star Wars... people HAVE invested years into enjoying that universe. People DID have loyalty. Then... when George released a cheesy, shiny, disposable trilogy.... the fans turned their back on him. The fans (geeks) did THE EXACT THING THAT RON ACCUSED THEM OF NOT DOING. The geeks analyzed the latest shiny new thing... and rejected it. If they LOOOOVED those movies... Ron would bash them for being lemmings. "Roobs".

Ron hasn't liked a Rolling Stones album in 30 years... but he still considers himself a fan. WHAT??? That's the ultimate "fair weather" fan mentality. Ron is shouting from the mountain top that HE'S cooler than cool because "I LIKE THE HITS! I LIKED THEM AT THE HEIGHT OF THEIR POPULARITY!" "I HATE STEEL WHEELS". (which, by the way.. isn't "new", Ron.)

Wow Ron. That's quite a daring stance you have.
"I like Eat A Peach". I'm sure The Allman Brothers appreciate the $9 you invested in their career 30 years ago but, they've released other work since then.


Is there ANYTHING less original, and more insecure than an overweight, cigar chompin', football lovin', former addict with a ponytail?! Ron's a cliche and he doesn't even know it.

[underdog]

Jesus, Ron.

People don't want "what's shiny and new". They want things to make sense and be enjoyable. Not disposable.

His opinion on fanboys and George Lucas and comicbooks and pop music (etc) is hilariously selfish and mis-informed.
With Star Wars... people HAVE invested years into enjoying that universe. People DID have loyalty. Then... when George released a cheesy, shiny, disposable trilogy.... the fans turned their back on him. The fans (geeks) did THE EXACT THING THAT RON ACCUSED THEM OF NOT DOING. The geeks analyzed the latest shiny new thing... and rejected it. If they LOOOOVED those movies... Ron would bash them for being lemmings. "Roobs".

Ron hasn't liked a Rolling Stones album in 30 years... but he still considers himself a fan. WHAT??? That's the ultimate "fair weather" fan mentality. Ron is shouting from the mountain top that HE'S cooler than cool because "I LIKE THE HITS! I LIKED THEM AT THE HEIGHT OF THEIR POPULARITY!" "I HATE STEEL WHEELS". (which, by the way.. isn't "new", Ron.)

Wow Ron. That's quite a daring stance you have.
"I like Eat A Peach". I'm sure The Allman Brothers appreciate the $9 you invested in their career 30 years ago but, they've released other work since then.


Is there ANYTHING less original, and more insecure than an overweight, cigar chompin', football lovin', former addict with a ponytail?! Ron's a cliche and he doesn't even know it.

I think the majority of the things Ron says is just to get people annoyed.

[fezident]

What he's saying is only half the issue. It's HOW he's saying it.
It's very smarter/cooler/holier than thou. There's venom in it. The thing that bothers me is, his opinions are as mainstream, safe, and typical as evvvverybody elses.

Michael Bay sucks? 2 1/2 Men isn't funny? Coen Brothers are brilliant?? American Idol is the same thing every week? WHUT????

Truthbombs, Ron. Truthbombs.

[underdog]

What he's saying is only half the issue. It's HOW he's saying it.
It's very smarter/cooler/holier than thou. There's venom in it. The thing that bothers me is, his opinions are as mainstream, safe, and typical as evvvverybody elses.

Michael Bay sucks? 2 1/2 Men isn't funny? Coen Brothers are brilliant?? American Idol is the same thing every week? WHUT????

Truthbombs, Ron. Truthbombs.

He watches American Idol.

And Michael Bay makes the biggest drawing movies in the world. 2 1/2 Men is one of the highest rated shows on tv. People love these things. You act like they're shunned by the mainstream.

[JimBeam]

I don't know the context here but reading what Fezident has leads me to believe that Ron saying Michael Bay sucks isn't an original thought, that it's more than likely the prevailing one.

The fact that his movies make money is irrelevant. Many people still dislike him even if they do see his movies.

Something being financially successful doesn't mean it's loved by the majority.

Taylor Swift is a huge seller as a country singer but that's driven by teem girls.

The average country music fan, the majority, loathes her music.

[SinA]

Ron seems to think that Fez will get better and be funny again.

I'm not so sure about that.

[Crispy123]

What he's saying is only half the issue. It's HOW he's saying it.
It's very smarter/cooler/holier than thou. There's venom in it. The thing that bothers me is, his opinions are as mainstream, safe, and typical as evvvverybody elses.

Michael Bay sucks? 2 1/2 Men isn't funny? Coen Brothers are brilliant?? American Idol is the same thing every week? WHUT????

Truthbombs, Ron. Truthbombs.

Hey look everybody, it's "doesn't get the bit" guy!!!

[JimBeam]

I don't think it's entirely a bit though.

Obviously he has his opinions about music/movies/tv and he believes them.

Why wouldn't he ?

[underdog]

I don't think it's entirely a bit though.

Obviously he has his opinions about music/movies/tv and he believes them.

Why wouldn't he ?

Of course, but I hate the too cool for the room bullshit that's thrown around. He dislikes pretty shitty things. And he seems rather open to new things. Callers call in and suggest stuff and he actually sounds like he's interested (in everything except cartoons).

[foodcourtdruide]

Is there ANYTHING less original, and more insecure than an overweight, cigar chompin', football lovin', former addict with a ponytail?! Ron's a cliche and he doesn't even know it.

Was this really necessary? You can disagree with Ron about his point of view, but why make it so personal? You're a psycho.

[foodcourtdruide]

What he's saying is only half the issue. It's HOW he's saying it.
It's very smarter/cooler/holier than thou. There's venom in it. The thing that bothers me is, his opinions are as mainstream, safe, and typical as evvvverybody elses.

Michael Bay sucks? 2 1/2 Men isn't funny? Coen Brothers are brilliant?? American Idol is the same thing every week? WHUT????

Truthbombs, Ron. Truthbombs.

I don't understand. These are just his opinions. If you listen to the show, he does have reasons behind them. He doesn't just scream out that Michael Bay sucks.

[fezident]

Was this really necessary? You can disagree with Ron about his point of view, but why make it so personal? You're a psycho.


I was speaking to Ron's venom, disrespect, and "passion" for his views on fanboys and such. He's very quick to call people roobs, basement dwellers, losers, who are all babies who long to be spoonfed, they have no lives, they haven't an original thought in their heads, they just want McDonald's and shiny things, etc etc.
The most impassioned Ron got all day yesterday (or day before... or whatever) was when he was angrily railing against nerds & geeks.

Psycho? Nope.

[fezident]

Hey look everybody, it's "doesn't get the bit" guy!!!


Hey look everybody. It's "everything Ron says is a brilliant bit" guy!!

[foodcourtdruide]

I was speaking to Ron's venom, disrespect, and "passion" for his views on fanboys and such. He's very quick to call people roobs, basement dwellers, losers, who are all babies who long to be spoonfed, they have no lives, they haven't an original thought in their heads, they just want McDonald's and shiny things, etc etc.
The most impassioned Ron got all day yesterday (or day before... or whatever) was when he was angrily railing against nerds & geeks.

Psycho? Nope.

Your point about Ron attacking fanboys aside, I think your comments about him being overweight and an addict were out of line. If you disagreed with someone in real life would you start screaming they were a fat drug-addict in their face? You'd look like a sociopath.

[Crispy123]

Was this really necessary? You can disagree with Ron about his point of view, but why make it so personal? You're a psycho.

It's actually kind of funny, the cliche AM radio listener doesn't get the New Millenium, Satellite Radio Show host bit. It would only be psycho if he actually paid money & subscribed to hear someone piss on his fanboy views!!!

[fezident]

Your point about Ron attacking fanboys aside, I think your comments about him being overweight and an addict were out of line. If you disagreed with someone in real life would you start screaming they were a fat drug-addict in their face? You'd look like a sociopath.



You're certainly correct. I wouldn't START by doing that.
But let's make sure that we're talking about the same thing here.
Ron started out by making (another) vitriolic rant about something that he feels passionately about. He did his fair share of making it personal. He doesn't/didn't attack the product... but rather the people who buy it. In this instance, it was comic/SciFi fans.

I simply came to the appropriate place on the board to vent MY feelings on the subject that HE brought up.


My "problem" with Ron is the hypocrisy and inconsistencies.
He skewered the guys who exclaim "George Lucas stole my childhood" but, just a few short weeks ago, Ron heaped praise on Chad Dukes (the radio/sports personality) who screamed and cried about "wanting reparations!!" because the team that he loved since childhood had let him down.

Ron got VERY personal about the knuckledragging, no life havin', computer game playin', social retards who simply can't wait to make a joke when a celebrity dies but, exactly two days later, Ron himself made a joke about a director who'd died "11 movies too late". (might've been Peter Yates, not sure though).


Of course I think Ron is an entertaining and interesting person. I simply have a problem with the fact that it's okay for RON to rail against a movie/genre for 50 straight minutes but then, a minute later, when Fez FINALLY chimes in about something that bugged Fez about a movie, Ron says "Tell ya what, Fez... how 'bout YOU go home and write a script."
When Ron says stuff like that, you'd almost think that HE wrote a script. He didn't. Yet it sounds like he's coming from a place of judgement.

All I was saying was,
Ron is no different the lemmings he makes fun of. He IS gonna watch every single moment of The Superbowl and it's commercials. He IS gonna watch The Oscars. He DOES watch Die Hard when it comes on. etc etc.

[foodcourtdruide]

You're certainly correct. I wouldn't START by doing that.
But let's make sure that we're talking about the same thing here.
Ron started out by making (another) vitriolic rant about something that he feels passionately about. He did his fair share of making it personal. He doesn't/didn't attack the product... but rather the people who buy it. In this instance, it was comic/SciFi fans.

I simply came to the appropriate place on the board to vent MY feelings on the subject that HE brought up.


My "problem" with Ron is the hypocrisy and inconsistencies.
He skewered the guys who exclaim "George Lucas stole my childhood" but, just a few short weeks ago, Ron heaped praise on Chad Dukes (the radio/sports personality) who screamed and cried about "wanting reparations!!" because the team that he loved since childhood had let him down.

Ron got VERY personal about the knuckledragging, no life havin', computer game playin', social retards who simply can't wait to make a joke when a celebrity dies but, exactly two days later, Ron himself made a joke about a director who'd died "11 movies too late". (might've been Peter Yates, not sure though).


Of course I think Ron is an entertaining and interesting person. I simply have a problem with the fact that it's okay for RON to rail against a movie/genre for 50 straight minutes but then, a minute later, when Fez FINALLY chimes in about something that bugged Fez about a movie, Ron says "Tell ya what, Fez... how 'bout YOU go home and write a script."
When Ron says stuff like that, you'd almost think that HE wrote a script. He didn't. Yet it sounds like he's coming from a place of judgement.

All I was saying was,
Ron is no different the lemmings he makes fun of. He IS gonna watch every single moment of The Superbowl and it's commercials. He IS gonna watch The Oscars. He DOES watch Die Hard when it comes on. etc etc.

Just wanted to say how weird this was, the SECOND I read your comment on Die Hard, Ron said "start shooting at the hip like Die Hard" on the show. THAT WAS FREAKING WEIRD.

[fezident]

Just wanted to say how weird this was, the SECOND I read your comment on Die Hard, Ron said "start shooting at the hip like Die Hard" on the show. THAT WAS FREAKING WEIRD.


Weird indeed.

I'm two days behind on Audible. I'll probably get a chuckle on Sunday when I hear him say that line.

[underdog]

Ron : I don't get why people want bands to break up. They can continue making good music.

Ron : I don't get why people want tv shows to go on. They always end up bad.

[fezident]

I've noticed that Ron has swapped "attic" and "addict".

"I'm an ex-drug attic."
"He probably has a young girl hidden in his addict."

I disagree with that.

[underdog]

I've noticed that Ron has swapped "attic" and "addict".

"I'm an ex-drug attic."
"He probably has a young girl hidden in his addict."

I disagree with that.

He does that a lot.

[sailor]

I disagree that that's a disagreement.

[fezident]

I disagree that that's a disagreement.

I concur.

[underdog]

I concur.

I disagree.

[fezident]

I disagree.
Correct! Circle gets the square.

[hanso]

"The view and the talk are the same show" I thought this also. But not so. The view have 'hot topics' where they talk on goings on like news stuff. The talk they free style. Today they had chat on grey pubes.