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Judge Smails
06-12-2009, 06:38 AM
Seriously, is there a more useless and purposeless piece of clothing than the necktie? We're literally tying a noose around our necks for the sake of fashion? It just seems so archaic - like a holdover from the powdered wig and cravat days of old. I think its time has come and gone. There was a time not too long ago where all men wore Fedoras. Now you only see them on hipster fags and Drudge. I say we we toss our ties on the sartorial dustbin of history. Who's with me?

I was watching coverage of the Iranian election and while I knew their crazy leader likes to sport the no-tie look I was surprised to see the opposition candidate and even their t.v. news anchors were not wearing them. They just looked so damn comfortable.

Dr.Girlfriend
06-12-2009, 06:42 AM
I don't have to wear them so maybe my opinion doesn't count but I still think a nice suit and tie look very dashing on a man. However I think I could live if they were gone forever.

King Hippos Bandaid
06-12-2009, 06:44 AM
for work yes


no for weddings and other social events, I love a good tie that helps make a suit , a suit



If that makes me suck cock, so be it

razorboy
06-12-2009, 06:45 AM
If that makes me suck cock, so be it

Don't try to blame it on a tie.

ANC
06-12-2009, 06:47 AM
I say we bring back the Ascot and keep the workplace real classy...

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King Hippos Bandaid
06-12-2009, 06:49 AM
Don't try to blame it on a tie.


I don't want to tell you what a pair of suspenders made me do

EliSnow
06-12-2009, 06:52 AM
I don't wear ties usually to work unless I'm going to court or a hearing, or a meeting with our opposition, etc. And I do know that a number of law firms that went business casual are going back to wearing suits, in part because of the thought that wearing the tie and suit puts the person into a better mindset for work (as opposed to be casual).

I think there is a little merit to the latter. When I'm wearing my suit and tie, I do feel a little more focussed and business driven.

razorboy
06-12-2009, 06:54 AM
I don't want to tell you what a pair of suspenders made me do

We've already lost Carradine and Hutchence. You stay safe.

Dougie Brootal
06-12-2009, 06:56 AM
i loathe putting on a tie. i wish they would fall out of style.

ANC
06-12-2009, 06:57 AM
When I'm wearing my suit and tie, I do feel a little more focussed and business driven.

That's the machine talkin' maaaaaaan!




:wink:

Judge Smails
06-12-2009, 06:58 AM
I don't wear ties usually to work unless I'm going to court or a hearing, or a meeting with our opposition, etc. And I do know that a number of law firms that went business casual are going back to wearing suits, in part because of the thought that wearing the tie and suit puts the person into a better mindset for work (as opposed to be casual).

I think there is a little merit to the latter. When I'm wearing my suit and tie, I do feel a little more focussed and business driven.

Yeah, but I'm sure that's what business people, and men in general, were saying about their Fedoras back in the 50's and we somehow got over that. If you were in England you'd be wearing a powdered wig to court. Just think how driven you'd feel then.

Its time to do away with these fashion holdovers from bygone eras so that we can move on to those one piece unitards of the future that science fiction movies have been promising us.

Dash77
06-12-2009, 07:00 AM
The right tie can bring out an outfit, I have about 50 ties and like to wear them..

EliSnow
06-12-2009, 07:02 AM
Yeah, but I'm sure that's what business people, and men in general, were saying about their Fedoras back in the 50's and we somehow got over that.


I very much doubt it. No one wore a fedora indoors or a courtoom. How does wearing a fedora outside affect work done inside or make one look more business like in meetings.

King Hippos Bandaid
06-12-2009, 07:08 AM
The right tie can bring out an outfit, I have about 50 ties and like to wear them..


that's because you are a Dash of Class


how are ya my man

Jujubees2
06-12-2009, 07:10 AM
I wear a tie during the school year but now that it's over, it's polo shirts for the summer!

Judge Smails
06-12-2009, 07:18 AM
I very much doubt it. No one wore a fedora indoors or a courtoom. How does wearing a fedora outside affect work done inside or make one look more business like in meetings.

They were "in style", so anyone who was anyone HAD to have a Fedora to feel like they were someone. You say you feel driven wearing a tie (and so do I) because that's the expected business fashion. My point is that they serve no purpose and should go the way of Fedoras, spats, powdered wigs, cravats, knickers et. al. I guarantee you wouldn't feel driven anymore if you were the only one wearing one. You'd be the oddball. I'm sure as time went on we'd find some other kind of status symbol to distinguish the "white collars" from the "blue collars". That's just human nature - I guess.

biggirl
06-12-2009, 07:21 AM
I love ties on men. I think it is incredibly sexy. They exude power and strength. I miss going to church just because I don't see Rhino in a tie as much anymore, well, and among other religious things.

I think Matt Lauer is incredibly sexy, and I think it is because he is typically wearing a tie on the Today Show.

I have always had this fantasy of my husband coming home from his executive career and pulling him by his tie to the bedroom.......and then.....falling asleep.

paracetamol flanders
06-12-2009, 07:22 AM
They call me LL Cool T (Ladies Love Cool Ties). If you know how to think outside the Garanimals, then a tie can accent many non-suit outfits. It is an excuse to add an outre colourfiled (there, I finally used that band name in a sentence).

Maybe not, however, for knuckle draggin', monosyllabic, backwards baseball hat frat douches who step out in jeans and team shirts next to their chicks who are virtually done up for the opera.

EliSnow
06-12-2009, 07:24 AM
They were "in style", so anyone who was anyone HAD to have a Fedora to feel like they were someone. You say you feel driven wearing a tie (and so do I) because that's the expected business fashion. My point is that they serve no purpose and should go the way of Fedoras, spats, powdered wigs, cravats, knickers et. al. I guarantee you wouldn't feel driven anymore if you were the only one wearing one. You'd be the oddball. I'm sure as time went on we'd find some other kind of status symbol to distinguish the "white collars" from the "blue collars". That's just human nature - I guess.

That's not what my point was. It's not that I'm driven to wear it because of what society says (although I don't deny that my wearing a tie is based on societal norms). My point was that when I'm at work wearing it, my mindset is more focused to work items.

Part of the "purpose" of uniforms, and be sure, the suit and tie is a form of uniform for certain business people, is not only identifying the person wearing it, but also to help that person acknowledge the role being taken and fit in that mindset. Those are the reasons that judges wear robes and in britain people wear the wigs. It may seem silly, but sometimes by wearing a symbol for a role, it helps the wearer work in that role.