View Full Version : Has Werner Herzog gone even more INSANE?!?
TheMojoPin
05-29-2009, 03:10 PM
What.
The FUCK.
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This looks like such an insane piece of shit. It's like every horrible Nicholas Cage role mashed into one and cranked to a bajillion. I'm hoping that this is some kind of elaborate joke. Maybe it's some kind of brilliant meta-cinematic thingamabob since Herzog is involved, but until I see it it just looks like the best worst thing ever. I love watching Nicholas Cage be awful, so this is going to be like porn.
Just for fun:
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Contra
05-29-2009, 03:13 PM
Now for those of us that don't have flash on our phone...
TheMojoPin
05-29-2009, 03:15 PM
I can't describe it. There's no way around actually watching this trailer. Trust me, it's worth the wait.
Now for those of us that don't have flash on our phone...
They used to call him "The Rat."
He was the manager of the Kansas City Royals in the 70's and the St. Louis Cardinals in the 80's.
He's an old man now and I have absolutely no idea why Mojo is picking on him.
mikeyboy
05-29-2009, 03:18 PM
So silly.
Contra
05-29-2009, 03:18 PM
I hope this doesn't ruin my feelings about Rescue Dawn!
Kublakhan61
05-29-2009, 03:37 PM
Has Herzog gone insane??
Aren't you aware he always been insane?
See: Heart of Glass (Hypnotized cast) / Even Dwarves Started Small (All midget cast) (best opening title song ever!!) / Wild Blue Yonder (A documentary narrated by a space alien) / Stroszek (I won't even spoil this one but "old lost john" never sounded better)
Easily my favorite director / cultural personality - I cannot wait wait for this.
Your first obvious mistake was to thing that Werner Herzog was ever sane.
TheMojoPin
05-29-2009, 03:40 PM
Yeah, but there's a difference between being an insane genius and an insane hack.
Kublakhan61
05-29-2009, 03:52 PM
Yeah, but there's a difference between being an insane genius and an insane hack.
Since when is it not genius to cast Cage and Xibit in a crazed cop story set in post-katrina new orleans??
Well, the New Orleans part seems hacky but as a policy student, New Orleans seems like a great setting for this story, apparently its politics are completely lawless - plus the rough landscape can't hurt.
TheMojoPin
05-29-2009, 03:55 PM
I think it's the choice of Cage over anything else.
Fuck everyone in this thread for not recognizing my baseball joke.
Yeah, it was obvious, but it was still awesome.
Go fuck yourself if you don't think so.
TobyWong
05-29-2009, 03:58 PM
Jvac would have made a baseball joke but it would have been funnier.
TheMojoPin
05-29-2009, 04:02 PM
Fuck everyone in this thread for not recognizing my baseball joke.
Yeah, it was obvious, but it was still awesome.
Go fuck yourself if you don't think so.
We were all trying to be polite by ignoring it.
We were all trying to be polite by ignoring it.
Maybe you just didn't get it.
disneyspy
05-29-2009, 04:05 PM
Maybe you just didn't get it.
you forgot to add" francis"
pennington
05-29-2009, 04:06 PM
I love watching Nicholas Cage be awful, so this is going to be like porn.
If you're into bad acting, how could you not mention Val Kilmer is in this too? And a fat Val Kilmer is just a bonus.
I'm going to wait for this to come out on DVD. The commentary track should be worth it by itself.
mikeyboy
05-29-2009, 04:07 PM
Fuck everyone in this thread for not recognizing my baseball joke.
Yeah, it was obvious, but it was still awesome.
Go fuck yourself if you don't think so.
I got it. I commented.
I got it. I commented.
If only you'd reply to YESTERDAY'S PMs so quickly.
KnoxHarrington
05-29-2009, 04:18 PM
One of the funniest things that was definitely not meant to be funny I ever saw was in the documentary "Burden of Dreams", about the making of the movie Fitzcarraldo. The movie was shot in the South American rain forest, and in one scene Herzog is sitting there, looking out into the jungle, and he launches into this just crazy monologue about how the jungle is "evil", which, courtesy of IMDB, I quote here:
Kinski always says it's full of erotic elements. I don't see it so much erotic. I see it more full of obscenity. It's just - Nature here is vile and base. I wouldn't see anything erotical here. I would see fornication and asphyxiation and choking and fighting for survival and... growing and... just rotting away. Of course, there's a lot of misery. But it is the same misery that is all around us. The trees here are in misery, and the birds are in misery. I don't think they - they sing. They just screech in pain. It's an unfinished country. It's still prehistorical. The only thing that is lacking is - is the dinosaurs here. It's like a curse weighing on an entire landscape. And whoever... goes too deep into this has his share of this curse. So we are cursed with what we are doing here. It's a land that God, if he exists has - has created in anger. It's the only land where - where creation is unfinished yet. Taking a close look at - at what's around us there - there is some sort of a harmony. It is the harmony of... overwhelming and collective murder. And we in comparison to the articulate vileness and baseness and obscenity of all this jungle - Uh, we in comparison to that enormous articulation - we only sound and look like badly pronounced and half-finished sentences out of a stupid suburban... novel... a cheap novel. We have to become humble in front of this overwhelming misery and overwhelming fornication... overwhelming growth and overwhelming lack of order. Even the - the stars up here in the - in the sky look like a mess. There is no harmony in the universe. We have to get acquainted to this idea that there is no real harmony as we have conceived it. But when I say this, I say this all full of admiration for the jungle. It is not that I hate it, I love it. I love it very much. But I love it against my better judgment.
And it's meant to be utterly serious, an Important Statement, but I just laugh my ass off.
TheMojoPin
05-29-2009, 04:23 PM
Werner Herzog is mentally unstable.
GreatAmericanZero
05-29-2009, 04:23 PM
nicolas cage is beginning to look weird and plastic-y. I might have interest in this movie if they didn't use the "Bad Lieutenant" name...call it "Crack Cop" and i'm all onboard, but the original "Bad Lieutenant" is one of my fav movies and no movie should have to be compared to it
lleeder
05-29-2009, 04:23 PM
I enjoyed the ass squeezing.
hedges
05-30-2009, 02:21 PM
I think it was in Klaus Kinski: My Favorite Fiend when Herzog commented that there were times he definitely wanted to kill Kinski during the filming of Fitzcarraldo, and it sounded like he meant it.
Kublakhan61
05-30-2009, 02:54 PM
I think it was in Klaus Kinski: My Favorite Fiend when Herzog commented that there were times he definitely wanted to kill Kinski during the filming of Fitzcarraldo, and it sounded like he meant it.
He also tells that story about how the natives offered to kill kinski if he wished on account of their vicious fights. Those two were a match made in heaven.
Pitdoc
05-30-2009, 03:10 PM
He shows up at the Telluride Film Festival every year to debut a film , be it either a documentary (which he seems to be doing more often than dramas) or film ( His Encounters t the End of the Worls was a Oscar nominee last year) . I was there when he debuted My Fovorite Fiend, and had dozens of more stories of how both he & Kinski were madmen that weren't in the movie . Always an interesting director.
And of course, I'd want to see his new one for this line alone:
"Keep shooting, his soul is still dancing!"
TripleSkeet
05-30-2009, 05:31 PM
I laughed when he asked what a fucking iguana was doing on his desk.
jetdog
05-30-2009, 06:15 PM
...and Werner Herzog made his money exploiting South American natives.
Recyclerz
05-30-2009, 06:24 PM
Klaus contributed 1/2 the genes for Nastassja Kinski, so he should get a Nobel prize for that alone.
biozombie
05-30-2009, 07:18 PM
I dunno, Crawlspace was pretty cool.
Mullenax
05-30-2009, 07:20 PM
Wasn't it in Grizzly Man that Werner Herzog never dreams, ever, and never has? In his sleep I mean. Sounds crazy to me.
KnoxHarrington
05-30-2009, 07:22 PM
He also tells that story about how the natives offered to kill kinski if he wished on account of their vicious fights. Those two were a match made in heaven.
There's also the story that Kinski was about to leave the set of Aguirre, until Herzog finally confronted him with a gun, telling Kinski that if he insisted on leaving, he would shoot him, and then himself.
Kinski meekly returned to the set, and was, apparently, perfectly behaved for the rest of the shoot.
TheMojoPin
05-30-2009, 08:39 PM
Werner Herzog once made a short film about him eating a shoe.
Totally unrelated:
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There's also the story that Kinski was about to leave the set of Aguirre, until Herzog finally confronted him with a gun, telling Kinski that if he insisted on leaving, he would shoot him, and then himself.
Kinski meekly returned to the set, and was, apparently, perfectly behaved for the rest of the shoot.
I've not only heard that story, I've heard it from a film professor who I respect greatly.
Lets face it, Herzog is batshit insane.
TheMojoPin
05-30-2009, 09:08 PM
He's obviously the epo of filmmaking.
He's obviously the epo of filmmaking.
Keep it up, 4th place.
Suspect Chin
05-30-2009, 10:00 PM
Nicolas Cage is the worst actor since Kevin Bacon.
bobrobot
05-30-2009, 10:09 PM
I certainly hope so!!!
http://www.cinemastrikesback.com/news/directors/werner%20herzog.jpg
bobrobot
05-30-2009, 10:11 PM
Nicolas Cage is the worst actor since Kevin Bacon.
He CAN be a bit of a ham...
http://www.seriouseats.com/required_eating/images/ham-bone_in-460w.jpg
TheMojoPin
05-31-2009, 06:59 AM
Keep it up, 4th place.
OK, May 31st.
Furtherman
06-01-2009, 08:44 AM
His Encounters At The End Of The World is one of my favorite documentaries in the past decade. It's not only visually cool - but his narration is hilarious.
But this movie just seems to add to the mystery of why Nic Cage is still making films.
IamFogHat
09-21-2009, 04:24 PM
I have no idea what is going on on earth anymore.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bad_lieutenant_port_of_call_new_orleans/
I give the credit entirely to Herzog.
JimBeam
09-21-2009, 05:41 PM
I think using the name " Bad Lieutenant " is so cheesey.
The only reason to do it is to get people that are familiar with the real " Bad Lieutenant " to wanna see the movie.
Unless I'm mising something there's absolutely no connection to that movie huh ?
Bumped.
who woulda thunk?
good reviews.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bad_lieutenant_port_of_call_new_orleans/
TheMojoPin
12-11-2009, 10:08 AM
Yeah, I was dying to see this when it looked like a trainwreck and now I think I'm even more curious now that it's supposedly good. It's been getting good reviews left and right, which is blowing my mind. Herzog, you maniac genius.
yojimbo7248
12-11-2009, 10:11 AM
going to see it this afternoon. can't wait. everything Herzog does is interesting.
midwestjeff
12-11-2009, 03:44 PM
Say what you will, but he's a Hall of Famer now.
Furtherman
04-19-2010, 08:04 AM
http://entertainment.nerve.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/werner-herzog.jpg
Who is the world’s biggest badass, the Ayatollah of awesome, he who bestrides our universe as a colossus? Just a couple of years ago, a lot of people thought it might be Chuck Norris, but it turned out that the kickboxing Mr. Potato Head couldn’t even get Mike Huckabee elected. Meanwhile, filmmaker Werner Herzog was turning out some of the best work of his career at a dazzling rate. One of these, the documentary Grizzly Man starring the tragic naturalist wackadoo Timothy Treadwell, was recently selected by the Times of London as the fourth best movie of the past decade.
I agree with this article. His movies are wild, funny and overall awesome.
yojimbo7248
04-19-2010, 09:30 AM
Herzog is my favorite director and I loved "BL: Port of Call New Orleans"
Furtherman
05-03-2010, 09:33 AM
But this movie just seems to add to the mystery of why Nic Cage is still making films.
I was wrong.
This was a very good movie - and Nic Cage was actually excellent in this role. It reminded me that he actually could act and was probably his best role since Leaving Las Vegas.
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