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sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 10:21 AM
I had an epiphany. I had heard that there might be a black hole in the center of the galaxy and it is drawing the galaxies material towards it and this is why the galaxy is pinwheel shaped, like water going down a drain. If the black hole is drawing in this material, I imagine that it is being ejected wherever the other side of the black hole is, correct? Or, does the material simply accrete onto the black holes central collapsed star core? If the material passes the star core and is ejected into "the other universe" on the other side of the back hole, what would that look like? Wouldn't it make sense that if this happens, we could see an area where new material is being ejected into our own universe, and what would this look like? A pulsar?


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/blackhole/images/abou-l.jpg

ToiletCrusher
05-26-2009, 10:28 AM
Fuck, I'm high just from reading that.

sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 10:33 AM
This is the theory, that the galaxy that our solar system is in is pinwheel shaped like water going down a drain because there is a black hole in the center, and that all the stuff in the galaxy is being drawn towards it, and eventually will be sucked into that black hole. No worries though, it will be trillions of years before this happens.

http://www.biblelife.org/bigbang-blackhole.gif


My questions is what this might look like from the other side of that funnel.

SouthSideJohnny
05-26-2009, 10:35 AM
Does Mike the Teacher post here anymore? He's the only one that could answer this question.

sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 10:38 AM
These types of questions usually draw him out! We will see.

Furtherman
05-26-2009, 10:38 AM
Although it was recently confirmed that there is a massive black hole at the center of our galaxy, we don't know what it looks like - nor do we have the technology yet to see what such an object looks like. Not even light can escape so we can't take a picture.

But here is what it might look like:

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Chigworthy
05-26-2009, 10:57 AM
Isn't the galaxy expanding? Just sayin'.

sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 11:16 AM
The universe is expanding, not the galaxy. Galaxies are made up of solar systems and the universe is made up of galaxies. I think of the universe as the room that all the galaxies are in.

ToiletCrusher
05-26-2009, 11:23 AM
The universe is expanding, not the galaxy. Galaxies are made up of solar systems and the universe is made up of galaxies. I think of the universe as the room that all the galaxies are in.

But a room has limits (e.g. the walls). How can the universe be ever expanding?

sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 11:37 AM
The other galaxies are observed as all moving away from a central point, and this is what they used as evidence of the big bang theory. They say it is expanding because all the stuff is getting further and further apart. I imagine all this is happening like cigarette smoke from a cigarette sitting in an ashtray in the center of a room.

SatCam
05-26-2009, 04:08 PM
i imagine it would be like if you had your head up under a bathtub drain and looked up

Crispy123
05-26-2009, 04:16 PM
:ohmy:I wonder if it spins backwards if you look at it from the Southern Hemisphere.

sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 04:22 PM
But I am wondering is we see anything that looks like that would look, so that we can say that "this material here is coming from a different universe". I think that would be significant. That is, unless it can be shown that the black holes siphon material from one side of our own universe to another.

I had made a thread last year or so asking why we cannot see the massive amount of luminous material that shrouds our galactic core.
I would have thought that such massive illumination would be easily visible at night, but it turns out that the massive bulge of material is shrouded from out view by the presence of "dark matter", which I liken to soot from the burning suns.
This soot obscures our view.
As far as this topic is concerned, I wonder if we are seeing things which are really the exit point of a black hole from a different universe.



http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0512/m31_gendler_Nmosaic1c50.jpg

sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 04:24 PM
Imagine if it looks like a galaxy???

brettmojo
05-26-2009, 04:28 PM
But I am wondering is we see anything that looks like that would look, so that we can say that "this material here is coming from a different universe". I think that would be significant. That is, unless it can be shown that the black holes siphon material from one side of our own universe to another.

I had made a thread last year or so asking why we cannot see the massive amount of luminous material that shrouds our galactic core.
I would have thought that such massive illumination would be easily visible at night, but it turns out that the massive bulge of material is shrouded from out view by the presence of "dark matter", which I liken to soot from the burning suns.
This soot obscures our view.
As far as this topic is concerned, I wonder if we are seeing things which are really the exit point of a black hole from a different universe.

This was posted in the astronomy thread, apparently sometimes you can see it somewhat.

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OGC
05-26-2009, 04:43 PM
After today's replay I thought maybe you were talking about Earl's Grandmother.

sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 04:51 PM
This was posted in the astronomy thread, apparently sometimes you can see it somewhat.

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That was awesome!! Thanks, I never saw that before. But still, a huge amount of the glow must be obscured.

biggestmexi
05-26-2009, 05:32 PM
the reason the toilet water spins is due to the way the axis of the earth is.

whats your reason that the black hole is moving the galaxy in a swirling motion?

it would just go from the outside in.



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sr71blackbird
05-26-2009, 05:54 PM
I am not sure why it would cause a swirling motion in the vacuum of space, unless the gasses are causing resistance, but the swirling galaxy seems pretty common outside of our own. I would bet that the gasses and dust and stars that came to be considered galactic material began gathering around the gravitational fields of the black holes and as mass increased due to proximity, it gathered more and more material that was probably filling space pretty evenly after the big bang. I am not sure why the shape would be pinwheel shaped, but the star that became the black hole was probably spinning and that might have had something to do with it. Perhaps the pull is in the direction of its rotation.






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